TSLP Season 4 Ep. 9- Discipline Beats Motivation, Every Time

🎙️ Season 4 | Discipline Beats Motivation, Every Time with Stanley Bronstein
What if the biggest shift in your leadership doesn’t come from doing more but from thinking differently?

In this impactful Season 4 episode of the Transformation Station Leadership Podcast, I’m joined by Stanley Bronstein to dive into why mindset truly matters in leadership, growth, and long-term success. We explore how your thinking shapes your discipline, your decisions, and ultimately your results.

Stanley shares powerful insight on breaking through limiting patterns, building consistency through discipline, and developing the kind of mindset that sustains progress, even when motivation fades.

This conversation is for leaders who are ready to stop waiting for the right moment and start leading with clarity, intention, and personal responsibility.

Learn more about Stanley:
Website: https://thewayofexcellence.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleybronstein/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thewayofexcellence

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Motivation feels powerful in the moment, but it's really unreliable. Some days it shows up, but many days it doesn't. And we know that the leaders who build lasting success, they are not the ones who wait to feel inspired. No, they're the ones who rely on discipline to move forward regardless of how they feel. I don't know about you, but I'm ready to get this conversation started. Let's go, welcome back to Transformation Station Leadership Podcast, the podcast where we explore the mindsets, the habits, and the inner strength that help leaders like you and me to grow, adapt, and lead with purpose. I'm your host, Adrian Benson. And today we're talking about something that every leader wrestles with at some point. We're talking about the tension between motivation and discipline. You and I know that motivation can spark action, but discipline helps us to sustain our progress. And I can't wait for you to meet our guest today. Our guest is Stanley. He's a leader and a thinker who understands deeply why discipline, not motivation, is the true engine behind lasting success. Stanley is an attorney, a CPA, a life coach, and a multi-book author focused on two big missions. He's focused on helping leaders like you and I to reach our maximum potential and to helping those who need it to lose weight permanently through healthy, sustainable lifestyle change without drugs or surgery. Sign me up. Stanley created The Way of Excellence, a structured personal development system that is centered on living excellence as a way of life. And he's written several books on it. And we'll hear about it tonight, including the Way of Excellence Journal, The Way of You, The Way of Us, and The Way of AI. It is my honor and privilege to welcome today, Stanley. Welcome to Transformation Station. We're happy to have you with us today.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Absolutely. All right. Well, Stanley, listen, as I was preparing for this, I was thinking to myself that your perspective reminds us that motivation is motivation can be emotional, right? It comes and it goes. Um, but discipline, on the other hand, is a commitment. I want to start off by asking you this question. Many leaders rely on motivation to get them started. Why do you believe discipline is ultimately more reliable and powerful than motivation?

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Well, you've already touched on it. Motivation is what gets you started. Problem is, motivation wears off. Today is March 9th. How many people joined the gym or made a New Year's resolution January 1st to make some changes in their life and they've blown it since now? That's because motivation wears off. Discipline, on the other hand, lasts. Discipline is what keeps you going. It's plain and simple. That's that's why I I love motivation, but eh, you can't keep it up.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

So true, so true. You know, I saw a quote that said, motivation starts the journey and discipline finishes it. And you know, Transformation Station community, we always love to take a moment to stop and to assess, to reflect on what we're talking about. And so as Stanley and I are moving forward in this conversation, I'm gonna invite you right now to go ahead in the chat and share with us what is resonating with you as Stanley gives us wisdom and gems today. Share with us what is resonating with you and what your takeaway will be as you finish this episode and then share what you've learned with others. So I want to ask you this question next. What was the moment you realized that you had to change? And what did you do first?

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Okay. First of all, I'm gonna put a slight twist on your question when we get to it. I'm gonna tell you not the moment I had to change, I'm gonna tell you the moment it became my privilege to change.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

I got to change, I get to change. Okay. Four months before my 50th birthday, I was not at my full maximum weight. I was still 320 pounds at the time. Today I'm about 145. So big difference from where I was back then. It's a little over 17 years ago. 320 pounds. I asked myself a key question. I said, where am I going to be? And I and I imagine a lot of leaders ask themselves these kind of questions. Where am I going to be in five years if I keep going on my present course? Would you care to guess what the answer was?

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Um tell me, tell me, tell me.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Dead. Mercy. And I decided I didn't want to be dead. So I said, okay, time for some things to change. And so I looked at myself and I said, What are some things I should change? Well, the first thing, I don't know if I was addicted or not. I don't know if I'm an alcoholic or not, but I was drinking scotch every day. I was drinking probably more than I should. And the scotch was not serving me, I was serving it.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Mercy.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

So I said, Okay, no more. I believe in symbolism. I took my last bottle of scotch, poured it down the toilet, hit flush, it was gone. It's been over 17 years. I haven't had a drink since then. And the funny thing was, I know a lot of people struggle with alcohol. I didn't find it hard. I actually found it pretty easy, believe it or not. And I think it's because I, if anything, I was not physically addicted to it. I may have been emotionally addicted to it. It was my crutch, it was my warm blanket or whatever. It made me feel good at the end of a long work day, but I wasn't addicted to it, so it was easier to quit. The second thing, soda pop, two-liter bottles of soda pop. I was drinking three of those a day. Have mercy. Yeah. And but they were diet caffeine free, so they tell us those are healthy, right? No, no, they're not. Uh, so I same thing. Pour the last one down the toilet, hit flush, gone. Haven't had one in 17 years. Don't miss it. Then I made some changes to the way I ate. I stopped eating red meat, beef and pork. I like chicken and turkey. So I said, okay, I'll quit beef and pork. That'll be okay. And then here's the key thing: I started walking. I said, I need some form of movement, and I decided on walking because I said walking is going to be my exercise of choice. I figure you can do it anywhere, almost anywhere, anytime. Um, you don't need a lot of special equipment, and I figured it would beat me up less than most other forms of exercise. So I said, okay. In the beginning, I couldn't walk two or three blocks. I had trouble doing that. And I found a gym that was open late at night, had a pool, and I'd go in there in the middle of the night when the pool was empty, and I started walking lamps in the pool 30 minutes, hour, hour and a half, two hours. And I set a goal to do a five-hour pole walk on my 50th birthday. Wow, and I did it. No problem. By then I'd lost about 50 pounds. But now let's back up a minute. This ties in with where I told you I didn't have to do these things, it was my privilege. Okay, I met a woman two years earlier, back in 2007. She lived in Honolulu, Hawaii. Her name was Peggy Chun. I met her. I was right uh on where I entered drove around the United States and I interviewed 50 powerful people to get their stories to put them in this book. And I met her in the very beginning of the trip. And when I by the time I met her, Peggy was completely bedridden. We call it Lou Gehrig's disease here in the United States. She could not move, she could not speak, she was on a ventilator, she couldn't talk. The only way she could communicate, trained people would hold up an eye chart and they could read her eye movements and she could spell words. So it took me like two hours to do a 20-minute interview with her. Now, here's the interesting part where I learned something. When I saw her, the thought that went in my mind was if I ever get like that, I want to be dead.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

I see.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

You know, I don't want to be here. But that was not Peggy's attitude. Peggy's attitude was, my grandkids are coming over later today. I can see out the window that it's a beautiful sunny day. They're gonna take me outside, we're gonna paint. It's a beautiful day, we're gonna have a great time. You say you're getting ready to drive around the whole United States and you're gonna talk to these 50 incredible people. Tell me about every one of them. I want to hear their stories. Sounds like so much fun. I wish I could go with you. So, this woman who was in a state where I would want to be dead, had more joy for life than anyone I've ever met in my whole 66 years to date. So, so anytime I had a morning where I wasn't motivated, I didn't want to walk. I wasn't, I don't feel like walking, I don't want to. You know the saying, what would Jesus do? I started saying, What would Peggy Chun do if she could? And the answer is Peggy Chun would have gotten her lazy rear end out of bed, she'd have gone out walking, and she might not ever come back because she was having such a good time.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

So, anytime I didn't feel like walking, I said this was for you, Peggy, and then I got up and I went and I did it anyway.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

So start so that's a perspective, that's one of the parts of my system that I put together, which you can kind of see on the wall behind me. There's a chart of it, and when people go to my website, they'll see the whole thing. But perspective, yes, we sit here and we complain, you know. You know, like like for example, we complain when our internet's slow. Yeah, well, it works faster than it did 200 years ago. Yes, you know what what are we complaining about? Um, so it's all a matter of perspective.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

I love this. I love this, I love this. So, you know, what I was thinking about while you were talking was this, right? When when we talk about shifting, right, we we allow we take ownership of what's happening and we were we let ownership replace excuses. And you showed that, right? When you talked about her motivation, here she is, bedridden in this situation, but yet she's still finding hope, she's still finding joy, she's still intentional about living. So replace the excuses leaders, right? So but lasting change begins when individuals stop blaming external conditions and take ownership for our decisions.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

May I elaborate on that?

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Okay, what got me started on my life of obesity was my mother died when I was eight, and and it messed with my head, and I emotionally shut down, and I was living with my massively obese father who had no clue how to eat properly. All he knew was to work hard and provide for his family and stay out of trouble. That's all he knew. So once I got started, I realized it was not my mother's fault that she died when I was eight years old, it was not my father's fault that he didn't know any better about how I should, and it was not my fault either. You know why?

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Why?

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Because blame is irrelevant. Blame does not fix problems. Anytime you blame, you are living in the past. The past should be what you learn from, not where you live. What matters is figuring out what needs to be done to fix the problem and then doing it. That's it. Yes, you know, so you say no excuses, just blame's a waste of time. Makes you feel good, but it doesn't get you anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Temporarily. Yeah, absolutely. No, thank you for that, right? And so, Transformation Station, we want to give you a best practice. Stanley is ushering us to this best practice, which says create simple daily habits that you follow regardless of your emotional state. So, Stanley, I want to ask you this question next. Um, you say that excellence isn't perfection. Nope. What does that mean in everyday life? And how can a leader, how can someone practice this?

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Okay, first of all, I'm gonna make a universal statement here that applies to everyone listening. Sometime in your life, you're gonna fail, and you're gonna fail big time. You know why? Because you're a human being, we are all human beings, we are all going to fail from time to time, we're gonna mess up. The question is: do we learn, do we beat ourselves upside the head, punish ourselves, say that we're no good, say that we're worthless, or do we learn from our mistake and move forward? Well, plain and simple, mistake proof that you are trying, you're gonna make mistakes. It happens. So when I began thinking about all this stuff, you know, in my business career, my whole living has been, yeah, especially the accountant in me, creating systems. How do I take complicated things and make them simple? So I said, How do I take the game of life and turn it into an operating system? You know, a set of rules, guidelines, you know, suggestions on how to live. So I said, Well, I used to be a perfectionist. In fact, I used to be a 367-pound perfectionist, as you can see in the picture. I used to complain that all the people around me were not perfect. Well, guess what? I wasn't either. And one of the things I learned is to stop being a perfectionist and be and to become what I call a good enoughist. Okay, good enough. Good enough is good enough. However, just because good enough is good enough, it doesn't mean you can't try to make it better. It doesn't mean you shouldn't try to make it better. That's what excellence is. Excellence is starting from a floor of good enough and working to make it better and better and better over time. Now, one of the things to realize is life, anything in life, life is a long-term game. Yes, the problem is we live in a short-term world, everything is instant gratification. Alexa, Siri, Uber, Streaming Video, Chat GPT, Gemini, whatever. It's all instant gratification, and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as we realize that we are human beings, not everything happens in a day, things take time, it requires patience. We need to learn to think in decades, but then act daily. Every time you exercise today, whether you want to or not, 20 years from now, you're gonna be very glad you did that. Especially if you keep doing it. Everything you do today affects yourself later on. The problem is, you know, so many people we think we're invincible, especially when we're younger. And what I have found is that it is the small daily habits that you instill and repeat over and over and over and over. That's where the power comes. See, I have this saying called beat yesterday. Your goal is to be better today than you were yesterday. But now think about this. You go, well, I messed up today, so I guess I didn't beat yesterday. I failed. No, if you quit, you failed. But if you sit there and you say, I messed up today, it's a mistake. I'm gonna learn from it. I'm gonna pick myself back up, fall down seven times, get up eight. I'm gonna pick myself back up and I'm gonna keep going, and I'm gonna keep going, and I'm gonna keep going. When in the past you would have quit at his beating yesterday, you didn't better you used to be. So you're beating yesterday. So now, and let me like let me give you an example of that. The day I changed my life, I call that day my rebirth day. Rebirth day, okay. It was it was February 1st, 2009, a little over 17 years ago. I'm now in year 18 of my evolutionary journey. Now, if you noticed that day was February 1st, 2009. You know why it was not January 1st, 2009? Why? Because I made New Year's resolutions that I was gonna change my life and I quit. I failed. I failed, I messed up. But this one time I did something different, and it was it was not first of all, it was not the first time I ever told myself I have to do something, it's not it was not the first time I lost weight. I'd lost weight two or three times before, a lot of weight two or three times before, but always put it back on because the changes I made were only temporary. When you have temporary changes, you're gonna get temporary results. When you have permanent changes, you're gonna get permanent results. So, this one time what was different was not only did I tell myself I needed to do something, I took permanent action on it to correct the problem. Permanent, not temporary, permanent. I became willing to permanently change. See, I used to say, what are the three most important words in the English language? I used to say they were I love you. Well, I don't think so anymore. I think the three most important words in the English language are are you willing? Mercy because the minute you become willing to permanently and positively change for the rest of your hopefully very long, hopefully very happy, hopefully very healthy life, you're not gonna permanently get what you want. Nope, permanent, and the other thing is, and it's just get started, keep going. Yes, permanent. That's what permanent is. Keep going, keep going, but you're gonna fail. You are you see, but if you keep going, you're gonna see, and you're gonna succeed.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Yeah, I love this, right? And we're talking to leaders, so you know, leaders, as you're listening to the conversation that we're having here with Stanley, I want to invite you to personalize this, right? Take it from general to be very specific. Specific one, as you look at your own life. Where are the areas in your own life right now where you're wrestling, you're struggling with quitting with giving up, or maybe you've already given up. But it's time for a restart. And this conversation that we're having with Stanley is transformational because it's nudging us to get out of that place where we have yielded to quitting, or we've said, you know what, it's just not worth it. I can't, I'm fatigued and I can't do it anymore. And it's nudging us to move. And I love the fact that Stanley is talking to us and reminding us like, don't quit. Don't quit. Now, Stanley, you talk about four barriers to lasting change. We're talking you you've used that word permanent several times, right? Four barriers, willingness, belief, discipline, commitment. Can you can you break these down for us with examples?

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Okay, well, we've already talked about willingness. We just talked about it a moment ago. You know, becoming willing to permanently change. Okay, let's talk about belief. My experience of going from this to this, 367 pounds with a 58-inch waist to 145 pounds with the 31-inch waist. These two people here are the same, they have the same DNA, but they are not the same person. You know, totally different identity. The experience of doing that and going from a person who can only walk two or three blocks to a person who has literally become a walking machine. I walk a half marathon or more every day. Every day. That's one of the reasons I do what I do. Because I can, you know, I'm in year 18 of looking for my limits, and I haven't found them yet. I love that. So that has taught me that I'm more powerful than I ever imagined, but this is what applies to you, the listener. If I'm more powerful than I ever imagined, so are you. Yes. I am no more special than you are. You are no more special than I am. The truth is, we are all special, each and every one of us. You are more powerful than you ever imagined. Yes, way more powerful. Yes, and you know what happens when you start to believe that. You start to ask yourself questions. And the question I asked myself was if I'm capable of doing all these things, what else is out there waiting for me to do that I haven't done yet that I should be doing? And the answer I came up with was turning this into a system that other people can use, not just for weight loss, but can use for anything. A human operating system on how to be an excellent human being. How can I turn it into a system so that I can teach others and that others can learn and others can benefit? So that's what I did, and that's what I'm continuing to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

And that's what my, for lack of a better word, that's what my mission is. That you know, that's what it's become. And yes, and I'm fortunately at a phase in my life, I've had a very good career, very successful. I could retire right now. But why? I'm I'm just getting started.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

I got stuff to do. I love it, I love it, I love it. And you know, leaders, as we are listening and watching, all of us should be feeling that nudge and that buzz on the inside. As Stanley is sharing with us, not just the formula, but he's also giving us the actual practical application of how we can live this out every single day. Yep, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

You want to talk? Let's talk about discipline and commitment. I'll make them really quick because I know we're getting toward the end. Okay, discipline. Discipline is not punishment, discipline is self-discipline, it is taking the time to identify all of your negative habits and eliminating them. Me, drinking scotch every day, gone, drinking soda pop every day, gone, eating crappy food every day, gone, going to Chinese buffets every day, gone, sitting on my rear end every day, gone, and then intentionally, consciously creating new positive habits to replace them. Walking every day, yes, eating only healthy food every day, yes, take spending time with myself, meditating every day, yes, things like that intentional. And if anybody wants to read a great book on habits, atomic habits by James Clear. Yes, you probably heard that. Yeah, fantastic book. It'll tell you everything you want to know about habits, but we're afraid to ask. When you become 100% committed to something, it becomes easier. And the reason why it becomes easier is you stop asking questions. For example, the week before Christmas, a Laura I worked with had cookies and cupcakes delivered to my house. They obviously didn't know my eating habits. I don't eat those kind of things anymore. So I took them, I said, thank you. And I didn't ask myself, could I eat these? Because the reality is I could eat a cupcake, it wouldn't kill me. I I could drink a shot of scotch right now and it wouldn't kill me. I could drink a can of soda pop right now and it wouldn't kill me. I could eat a cupcake right now, it wouldn't kill me. But the reality is I have no business hanging out with any of those things, those are my past. Okay. I don't need them anymore. And the funny thing is, just by thinking about them, I can taste them right now. Mercy. I tell people who want to quit smoking cigarettes. You can look at that cigarette without lighting it, you can imagine what it tastes like, you can imagine what it's gonna make you feel like, and then put it back in the pack. You can you can pour yourself away, you can pour yourself a glass of scotch or whatever your alcohol is, or try a can of beer, whatever. You you can sit there, you can look at it, you can imagine what it tastes like because the Lord knows you've had plenty of it before, and you know what it is, you know how it makes you feel, and then you can pour it down the sink and not drink it. You know, you don't have to, you know. So that's what discipline is. Like when I I am 100% committed to walking every day. No answer buts. I do it every day. Don't feel like it's too bad. You know, it's it's who I am. That's why that's why I say the person on the right in this picture is not the same person as the person in the left. And the reality is the person on the right was always inside the person on the left, screaming to get out.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Screaming to get out, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You know, and I know for all of us as listeners and viewers, we can absolutely identify um and resonate with what you're sharing because all of us in some area of our life, right? For one person, it may be food, it may be weight, for others, right? It may be self-esteem, low self-esteem, and building confidence. Everybody is because we're human, we all struggle and we all wrestle, right? So I want to ask you this as we turn the corner on this conversation for the leader that is listening today that feels stuck because they're they're waiting to for motivation to show up. What's one disciplined action that they could take today that would begin to change their trajectory?

SPEAKER_00 30:35

First of all, you're not stuck. And if you're stuck, tell yourself you were stuck in the past. Today is a new day. You don't have to wait for motivation, you don't have to wait to hit rock bottom. You know, they tell you, you know, you're not gonna change to hit rock bottom. I don't believe in that. I I changed before I hit rock bottom. I was on my way to rock bottom, it was definitely coming, but I hadn't had a heart attack yet, I hadn't had a stroke yet, my knees hadn't given out yet. All those things were coming. You don't have to wait, all you have to do is make up your mind, become willing right now, and that's what I do with people. I work with people, I help them do that. And if you have groups and you want to do that, you know, I can do group webinars as well. You know, doing Zoom is a wonderful thing. I don't care where you're at in the world. You know, we can do a group webinar. Tell your people in the company, get them fired up, become willing now. Now, now there's what what is it? What is what Eckhart Tole, he wrote the book, I think the power of now called or whatever. It's true.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Now, right now, don't delay, don't delay it's it is your privilege, yes, do it right now.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

When you're dead, it will no longer be your privilege.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

You know, Stanley, I am gonna take that phrase from this conversation. One of my takeaways, I'm gonna use this actually tomorrow, one with myself and with my staff. It is our privilege, it is our privilege to change, it is our privilege to be excellent, it is our privilege to create daily habits that allow us to be.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Peggy Chun taught me that and didn't even realize she was doing it at the time.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

I love it, I love it. We're definitely gonna use it. So, listen, Transformation Station, what an amazing conversation that we've had with Stanley today. Again, I want to invite you, go ahead and fill up that chat right now. Comments if you're listening, send us a DM, let us know what has resonated with you. And uh, as always, I'm gonna invite you to share with others. Now, Stanley, I know that there are others that are listening and watching that want to think they they want to find out more, right? About the book, about what you offer, about the resources you have. What's the best way for us to be able to keep in touch with you?

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Okay, the website that you just put on the screen, the what thewayofeccellence.com. Go there. First thing, the first the main page it takes you to, it gives you a brief explanation of the entire system. It's called the Way of Excellence. This is what the system looks like. This charts on the website, you'll be able to see it, and it's made up of 20 parts. Each part, if you scroll down, each part is listed, they are in a specific order for a specific reason because they build on each other. Okay, start with number one, right underneath. It says click here to watch a video on this. Each video is eight to 12 minutes. Watch one a day, eight to twelve minutes in less than a month, you'll learn the whole system. And also, the videos are kid friendly and they're halfway entertaining. So if you have kids or grandkids and you want to watch them with your kids or grandkids, you can. Um, I made sure they were kid friendly and just watch one a day. One day you'll know you'll learn the whole system in less than a month, and you'll be well on your way. Then on the next tab, there's guidebooks. I have several books, like 15 or 16 books up there, all available for free. Free digital download, or you can read them on the website. They're free. And the reason why it's free, it's not that I don't like money, it's not that I don't want you to hire me to help you and work with you because I do I do work with private people, it's because not everyone has money, and I don't want money to get in the way of the mission, you know. Because one of the problems is we live in a world where everyone's always trying to make money off of us, and and they're putting their best interests ahead of yours. I want to make sure that you know that I'm putting your best interests ahead of mine. I love it because that's that's what's important, and then there's a third tab, which is resources on healthy eating and weight loss. There's a whole system there, tons of videos, tons of information about what I have done, what I believe, what I have learned over the last 17 plus years as to what works to lose weight in a healthy manner with no drugs, no surgeries.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

I love this.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

I don't believe in any of those things. I don't I don't think just because I don't think it's necessary to mutilate our bodies and to load ourselves up with drugs. That's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

We can do it naturally. Well, listen, this has been a really powerful conversation, very relevant conversation. Leaders, you see the website there on the screen. Those of you who are listening, it's also in the description box for the podcast. So please, I want to invite everybody. You heard Stanley talk to us about the resources that he has, the ones that are free, engage, get the book, buy the book, read the book, learn, grow yourself because you know that we believe the community that learns together grows together. Stanley, it's been wonderful to have you with us today. Thank you so much for adding so much value to our community. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. All right, well, listen, Transformation Station, this conversation has reminded us today that leadership is not built on occasional bursts of inspiration. No, it's built on daily discipline. Man, we have to thank Stan Lee for sharing the perspective and for reminding us that real progress does not depend on how we feel in the moment, it depends on the commitments we choose to keep. And to everybody that's listening and watching, I want you to remember this motivation may start the journey, but discipline is what ensures that you will finish it. And if this episode resonates with you, be sure to subscribe to Transformation Station Leadership Podcast and share this episode, this one right here. This is golden, this is classic, this more people need to hear it. So share this episode, this conversation with another leader, with somebody in your network who you know is ready to build the habits that lead to, as Stanley said, permanent, that leads to permanent lasting success. Until next time, stay disciplined, stay focused, and keep on leading with purpose.