The Hunt Swiftly Podcast
The Hunt Swiftly Podcast discusses everything to gear to camo patterns and everything in between
The Hunt Swiftly Podcast
Ep. 4 Hunting Gear Game-Changers
Gear that genuinely improves your hunting experience is worth its weight in gold—and sometimes costs nearly as much. Our deep dive into backcountry hunting equipment focuses on three game-changing innovations that have transformed our approach to remote wilderness pursuits.
The Initial Ascent 5K pack redefines weight distribution with its revolutionary frame design. Unlike traditional packs that become unbearable under heavy loads, this system comfortably carries weights that seemed impossible before. Watching a 14-year-old girl effortlessly shoulder 50 pounds at an expo demonstration sold us instantly. Beyond comfort, the ingenious four-buckle meat shelf system eliminates the complexity found in competitors' models. When you're miles from the trailhead with a harvested elk in grizzly country, this simplicity isn't just convenient—it's essential for safety.
Hydration might seem basic, but the Drifter system solves problems you didn't know needed fixing. This pressurized, rigid reservoir won't puncture or collapse under load, while its integrated filtration means never removing it from your pack. The dual-tube design delivers water with force rather than a trickle, and a clever valve system prevents frozen lines in cold weather. Though slightly bulkier than traditional bladders, it actually reduces overall weight by eliminating redundant equipment.
Our weapons discussions reveal how modern technology extends ethical hunting capabilities. From custom rifle setups with precisely calculated dope charts to compound bows delivering arrow speeds exceeding 300 fps, today's equipment provides reliability and performance previous generations could only dream about.
These aren't just purchases; they're investments that expand what's possible in the backcountry. When products work this well, recommending them isn't sponsorship—it's simply sharing what works. Join us at upcoming events like TAC in Red Lodge Montana to continue the conversation about gear that makes a genuine difference in our hunting pursuits.
where it's like oh, quentin's not ready and it's already recording. I will say, kind of as a disclaimer, this sort of gear list that we're going to do. This isn't really going to be like a full-on gear list, but we're going to talk about some of the bigger stuff, yeah this is a whole lot of bigger stuff that I would call. I would bet 100%.
Speaker 2:Every single piece we're about to talk about, I would say has made my life better. For the limited amount of usage, I'd say limited amount of usage made my life better.
Speaker 1:I mean with the pack alone. I've only used that pack to load down with weight and hike and walk around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used it to scalp for the first time the other day that I'm using on a bear hunt, okay, so I think we should start off with that. Sorry, we are both running the same pack this year. I believe we are the initial ascent, 5k. Yeah, we are running it full, like the frame and pack you were running. In what color?
Speaker 1:It's the gray, the wolf gray yeah, it's the singular color.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're running in the fourth grade. Yep Dude, can we just start? Let's just start with the ultimate thing the weight carry Mm-hmm, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so one you can go to, like like you can go to an expo and they'll load you with 150 pounds. I've done it and it is hilarious how well that pack carries the weight, though I so like.
Speaker 2:When I went down to the western pun expo I did that at the booth Dude, I thought I put it on with the initial pack, the initial weight. I guess the weight. I'm like 20. They're like that's 50. I'm like what they're like. Close your eyes. They put two more packs on the side. They're like guess the weight? I'm like seven. That was 150 pounds, sold me Instantaneously on it. Then I had my family friend who is 10 years old. She is a 10 year old girl. No, she's not 10 anymore she's always 10 in my head.
Speaker 2:She's like 14. So she's forever 10 in my head, kind of thing, but she's 14. They put 50 pounds on her back with the small women's one. She's like oh my god I can walk around I'm like, dude, that's 50 pounds.
Speaker 2:And then my homie came over. She's like a 100 pound girl, five foot two, puts on my 72 pound pack with weight to like, oh, is this like 25, 15 pounds? It's insane, like the way the ergonomics of that packer belt, with the larger hip belt, the larger hip pad, the shoulder straps, it works and you're not even like cranking on the load lifters, you barely touch the load lifters and it's comfortable. Yep, it's, I think. So I ran. I've only been back country like backpack hunting for three years out of the four. The first two years I ran the stone glacier 6900.
Speaker 2:The reason I didn't go with the bigger, the 8k, which I kind of wish I did at the same time I'm like, is that I don't have any sheep hunts, though if I, if I pull a sheep tag, I'm buying the 8k. Uh, just the way I hunt archery, the way I'm hunting bear, with a hot tent setup, I can get that 5k to work perfectly for the amount of time I'm going. So that's why I went with the 5k. But, dude, that late carrying capacity is next level, like it is a night. But like I was saying about the solution, so, which is great, yeah, like I used it for years, like I didn't have any complaints with that pack at all. You know, you just bend over when it's heavy, but that's every pack.
Speaker 2:I threw this pack on and it was a revelation. Like this is, I believe, the initial scent kind of pack style where they they're light, like the pack itself is pretty light. It's not super light like stone, glacier light, but the way it carries weight makes it a hundred percent worth it. Yeah, I, I agree. Functionality over weight savings. I would say yes and it's.
Speaker 1:It's not even like you. You look at the pack, like you go to your logo, shields or wherever it is. You want to go look at them. Western Hunt Expo or Mile High, wherever they are, tac event, I don't know where they're going to be.
Speaker 2:They were at TAC last year. Yeah, that's where I first got them on my radar. I didn't try the pack, but my buddy did and he was like dude, do you try it?
Speaker 1:I'm like, mean wherever you like. Look at the pack right it is. It is a bare bones pack from a frame standpoint. So, like you look at the uh, the crux or the x curve, whatever it is, so it's sewn into the bag that, like it, finished very nicely. You look at the initial scent. It is essentially a piece of CNC'd out carbon fiber alloy or composite is the right word With the straps that are connected to it, the lumbar support that's connected to it. But, man, it is one incredibly comfortable.
Speaker 2:The ventilation from not having it sewn together too is something, yeah, like that little gap in your back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really nice. The fact that the lumbar pillow has enough like plushness in it and you can move it up and down on the pack is fantastic. Um, and it fits well. I'm like I'm a bigger dude I don't think that's any a secret to anyone watching the youtube for this but it fits me really fucking well, and on the flip side of that, I'm a, I'm like a, I'm like an athletic built dude.
Speaker 2:I have broader shoulders, smaller waist. It fits me great. So it fits the kind of spectrum of where someone like you, you might have a little bit wider hip base than me. It still fits.
Speaker 1:And it's well thought out. And they did things with this pack. I don't know if they did them intentionally or not, but on each of the shoulders, like in the frame, there's little notches.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, I was literally about to talk about that. Yeah, oh, my God. Those things are brilliant. I watched a video on it. They were initially assigned for your rifle sling. That's what I use them for. Got it, Dude. Awesome for it. Got it. It's fucking awesome the weight carrying. I tested it at Western Hunt because that's what they do. Yeah, that's where they're hanging stuff that's like you can pack out like a full bear in one trip.
Speaker 1:with that you can hang your bags off the side of it.
Speaker 2:It makes weight that was previously not manageable. Manageable, which is huge if you want to get into, like, backcountry backpacking, yeah, so coming from a newer, which is huge if you want to get into backcountry backpacking, so coming from a newer standpoint I haven't had a lot of experience with a lot of other bags.
Speaker 2:I've only had experience with Stonewisher, I've had experience with Mystery Ranch and I've had experience with the initial scent. If you're looking to invest, as a new hunter, in something that will last you forever. It is a premium piece of gear so it is going to be pricey, but the initial scent pack is something I recommend 10 out of 10 times 100 if it works with your budget. As a new inventor, starting out with that comfort will let you get farther back and more experiences in the red zone yeah and I will.
Speaker 1:So it's not as expensive as like it. I think it's the arc from kafaro, I think the art's 100 or 200 more. Uh, it's in line with a stone glacier the same size. Um, mystery ranch is going to be a couple hundred dollars less. But, man, if you can drop 750, whatever that is on this 700 on GoHunt 700 on GoHunt.
Speaker 1:There you go and you gain your points. No, but realistically, the only thing I will say is you don't get to pay on your own GoHunt. You can order it separately On the actual site. You can order it built in, yeah, on the IA site, though it built in, oh, yeah, on the ia side, though, right, I don't think I never.
Speaker 2:I ordered my own government, I just order it. Secondly, like separately, and to be honest, it's such an easy install, yeah, um, what's another? Really great simplicity, oh, my god. Yeah, so, like with the stone glacier, there is I, I love the stone glacier packs, but there is a million different little straps and every different little bit of webbing, and if you don't know exactly how to use it, you would be fucked trying to use that meat shelf.
Speaker 1:Yep, this is four buckles, four buckles, four buckles and the entire pack pops off.
Speaker 2:Four buckles pops off and then on the actual meat shelf side, the pannier itself can buckle into that side. So you can use that as a day pack. Or you can just use put the meat in the pannier, the top buckles buckle and then you could just use your backpack to strap down your meat. Yep, four buckles. You know you could use it day one as a meat shelf. You don't have to go watch a million youtube videos on how to use it, because that's something I had a big problem with some glacier, yeah, oh, and mystery ranch. It's literally just four buckles. Put it in the pannier, tighten down and you're good. And what I really like about the pannier, too, is this kind of leads into the next thing we're going to talk about. Is that that front pocket?
Speaker 1:it's perfect it'sand percent, thousand percent, and yeah, it's just. It's such a good system. It was well thought out. It was very clearly designed by hunters For hunters that want to do quick shit, that want to do quick shit, that want to do shit quickly. Yeah, like that is the ultimate. They're out of idaho, right? Yeah, yeah, coldwell, coldwell, yep, and and they do awesome awesome stuff but no, it's.
Speaker 2:I think it is the best pack in my. I agree I don't. I don't have the repertoire of, like, how the kefaro feels. I don't have the repertoire of how the new mystery ranch feels. I don't have the repertoire of how the new mystery ranch feels. I don't know what the.
Speaker 2:I know what the stone glacier feels like because they've changed in 10 years, yep, but I don't know what the crux feels like. But I can say from what I've heard, what I've experienced. With the limited amount of experience I have, I think that thing is the best thing in the world. I agree Because when I dove into backcountry hunting I dove all in Like multi-day hunts immediately and it wasn't even the highest quality gear at the time so it was really heavy. So I was already like so the first ever bull elk that I killed a spike and packing that thing out was intense, like I wasn't't that far from the track, I was like three, four miles and it was a lot.
Speaker 2:Yes, which could have been, it's definitely me but the way it carried weight it just put so much pressure on my shoulders that it just felt like I was carrying around like 120 pound rug down up this hill to my truck and I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna die, yeah. And like I've been fortunate enough where I've harvested other elk now where I was closer to the truck. This has expanded my mindset. Like I'm not thinking five miles from the truck max, I'm thinking 10 to 20. Which I know it sounds like a lot, but like I'm not thinking five miles from the truck max, I'm thinking 10 to 20, which?
Speaker 2:I know it sounds like a lot, but like I've been doing a lot of other things physically to prepare for that kind of mileage, like I'm running an ultra marathon, yep, um. So there's it's not all the pack for sure where my mindset has changed, but knowing that I could get realistically probably like loose meat and two quarters out at a time of the bowl, yeah, if I really needed to in grizzly country, without a ton of problems, it turns three or four trips into two trips, a hundred percent. Yeah, like, without a doubt, like I can do backstraps, tenderloins, heart and like loose neck meat and then two like deboned quarters on my sides, get that like a mile away towards camp for an elk and then go back, do the same thing and then with the head, and then I'm not worried, like okay, this is gonna like. Obviously it's gonna take a long time, but I'm not thinking about like western.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I'm not thinking about like, oh, I'm gonna be at trip number three and a grizzly bear is going to be claiming it. I'm going to be at trip number two, taking the head out and moving, leaving that gut pile, leaving that carcass. And then now I have a little bit more peace of mind when I'm back there Because unfortunately not unfortunately, I'd say ultimately the places I like to hunt, the places I enjoy hunting, are also where the grizzly bears hunt. To me. So that's something that's always on my mind there's parts of Montana that there's no business. I just don't like to hunt there. I like to hunt where not a lot of people are, which means that there's a lot of people. Yeah, 100%. So the initial set, I think, is worth the investment. I agree.
Speaker 1:The spotter pocket too is great. Yeah, I mean it's. I think we said it already, but it is a very clear Pocket Backpack. Well, yeah, it's a backpack that was designed for a purpose. Yes, everything has an intentional purpose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one beef I have with that pack is that you have to get those secondary buckles if you want to strap something like a tripod on the side, which I mean is a little annoying.
Speaker 1:But it's not the end of the world If I'm able to carry out that need whatever, I also like that little I don't know what it's called like that little secret pocket on the underside of a lid. Oh, what do you mean? You shouldn't say that Secret pocket. You gotta buy one to find out.
Speaker 2:That's a cool little thing.
Speaker 2:It doesn't work, unfortunately with the hydration system we're running, but it is a cool little spot to keep physical tags. The nice thing is that Montana has good tags, like my California tags. All, all are gonna be physical. I need my list. Go california blacktail hunt. I mean that's gonna be the hunt swiftly debut. Uh, no, I think we'll probably go to the bear hunt. Yeah, I, we don't kill one in the next like week and a half, if I don't kill one this trip, may 11th through the 19th, I have completely opened for bear hunting. All right, so bear hunt might be coming with some content there, but besides that, the first deer and elk hunt is going to be on a tail in California. Well, which is a fucking hard hunt, yeah, but also the beach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, not necessarily. We're going to be in China.
Speaker 1:It's the largest coastline of any state in the Union. Oh, I know, I grew up on that coastline.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I grew up literally all that coastline. Yeah, I grew up literally on that coastline. So I know California man, santa Cruz, California represent. Hey, at least I'm not too Californian. I admit you hunt, I hunt. I don't try to change Montana. I abstain from voting in Montana until I've lived here 10 years, unless it's like a bill that actually makes sense to me, like if, like a Colorado mountain lion bill came around, I'd vote for that. But like vote like no. But besides that, I don't feel like I have been here long enough where I should have a political say, until I'm like a functioning member of society.
Speaker 1:There's some shit going on right now. What do you recommend? There's, I think, what bills they are, but there's a couple going through right now that are about land reclamation and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Well, that kind of stuff, yeah, 100%. But I'm saying overall political landscape. I probably would vote with majority long names. I would say, politically we'd accept you, but I would. I just I really just don't want to influence a place that I am not a full part of their economy, because I'm stupid, fair enough, and I think that's the problem. That's why we have two blue blueberries really, yeah, in bozeman missoula's. Why we have two blueberries really in Bozeman, missoula is because the college kids will get really politically active, yeah, and I think that my personal opinion on that is I grew up in a place where my town, milwaukee, got ruined by the college, like UC San Cruz ruined the internal parts of that town, like the homelessness problems, the like drug problems.
Speaker 2:A lot of that came from like student votings, from activism. So like I just grew up with the consequences of that, fair enough. And so I choose to abstain, unless it's something that involves public lands hunting, because those are issues I feel like I would align myself with most mont Montana with, oh, fair enough. But just I don't want to be a part of the issue until I have a stake in it. If that makes sense, okay, yeah, that's reasonable. I think that's the mindset I'm honestly a big fan of, like if you're going to college out of state, you don't vote. I agree, I mean, I agree. I think it's your constitutional right.
Speaker 2:I think you should vote on, like federally back home, yeah, but in like a state like montana, where it's been this way and people love it for what it is. I think people you know coming from california, coming from minnesota, coming from oregon, washington, and trying to change it into what they left is a disgrace, I would agree completely. So, as a Californian, I apologize for other Californians. We're also terrible drivers. Dude, my first year or two driving here, I was an issue. I'm going to be completely honest. I was an issue.
Speaker 2:Now I figured, figured out, now I know how to drive in the snow. But there was a while where I just like refused to drive because I was like I don't want to be that asshole with the california plates. Dude, the first ever day I lived here was a snowstorm and I this is a little little tmi I had a little date going on the night before and I had to drive her home and she's from like middle of nowhere, montana, hell yeah, and I'm driving like californian and it gave her the ick. So bad she never talked to me again, nice. So bad, she never talked to me again nice. So I'll see that. Good for her, good for her. Now I see the reason why, but I was like dang dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there's I, I, I accept my fault as california, I mean I, I will say I I love cal. I it's beautiful's beautiful. I think if that state wasn't politically communist like, it would have been wrong. It's true, yeah, but I think if that state wasn't so bright blue it's insane it would be. I would easily live there again. It was an amazing way to grow up. It's beautiful. California, I would say, as a high school experience, was the shit, because I literally lived like a movie high school experience House parties, you name it. Football, you go to cheerleaders, you get drunk. I think that doesn't happen anywhere else. No, I'm just saying, but in a California setting where you're cutting class to go to the beach and serve, fair enough. Like Senior Ditch Day, johnny Tsunami, yeah, our Senior Ditch Day. We brought a dye table down to a beach, built sand benches and had a dye tournament on the beach with the entire senior class next to the ocean on an 85-degree day in May, fair enough.
Speaker 2:So that's where I think, like the California, like movie experience is a real thing yeah you got to go to senior night at Disneyland. Exactly. But I'm not saying that doesn't happen anywhere, I'm just saying like Fair, no, I got you. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I mean, growing up I surfed a lot. I was like bright blonde hair, tan surf kid.
Speaker 2:I didn't see that, dude, I was like bright white blonde. Like I had a tan line on my neck where I was like dark, bright white blonde hair, baby face with my green eyes, and then I'd be pure white and with a wetsuit tan line and I'd go surf with my buddies 12 hours a day. Like we would hit this place called Steam Lane Supply next to the surf spot and they would serve these fucking dog food bowls, but they were like eggs and bacon and they're like old, day-old stuff but they're like 50 cents. So all the Grombs and I would get these like 50-cent dog food bowls, eat those and go out back surfing. And they had a credit system. So it's like you add money to an account. So if you wanted to go surf, not bring the wallet, so we would like man, get like two of those egg things, ask them to microwave it, pour hot sauce and a yerba mate, jesus christ. So that's, that's like what I grew up doing. That's wonderful, that's important.
Speaker 2:I was a girl. I like traveled for surfing. I was like my sport forever and then I started and I was hunting. I was hunting but I used to do like competitive surfing. But that's what root in surfing 100. I shouldn't have never done it like I was a good surfer, but just the contest, like the way it was growing up, it was a very much a favoritism what company sponsored you won contests fair. So it was all about promoting this brand's next surfer, this next calm, and I had some local companies sponsoring me but I never had like company sponsoring me. But I never had like international company sponsoring me rip girl amul, yeah, but that's my little surfing history. But I was all in. I was like traveling like fiji and travel fiji, travel hawaii, down south, up north, like everywhere. So I've always been an all-in kind of guy yeah, I can tell by the way you hunt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very clear, just full sun the way I hunt is I schedule my school around that I have to do an extra year of college because I do four classes Tuesday, thursday and fall. So I can hunt Friday. Tuesday, thursday and fall. So I can hunt Friday, saturday, sunday, monday, nice.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know you gotta do what you gotta do, right, it's my life.
Speaker 2:It's 100% my life. I can't get competitive with people. So I don't get competitive with people. Fair, it shouldn't be competitive, it shouldn't be. But it gets so competitive. Oh, this person killed this bull. This person killed this bull. That's why there's no gripping. I have a gripping grin. That's why I've seen it. That's just because it was my first real grandchild and my first over 40 people. I think the last post I really want to post is if I kill a bear Because I want to do like an entire story on like this is why you hunt bears and cause I have. I have an audience. Like I don't have an audience, but the people who follow me are like my friends from back home that don't know hunting Nice. So by posting that I can understand, increase understanding, then I want to do it Totally. Then I want to do it Because I've had this conversation with the most liberal of people, like the Makeda people, and explaining it to them, and I feel like that conversation was actually very helpful to their understanding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's definitely. If you can get through to someone and just be able to have a civil conversation with somebody about hunting in general, it's never that thing. The best way to get through to someone and just be able to have a civil conversation with somebody about hunting in general, it's never a bad thing.
Speaker 2:The best way to get through to someone is good food. Yeah, I agree, I served a bunch of people some backstab from out my open. All of them loved it. And it kind of opened the doorway like, oh, how do you harvest this? What is it like harvesting? Did you bring meat to the processor? Did you process it yourself? Do you have a butcher deal with it? How do you get it off the map? It opens up a path. Yeah, totally. But anyway, circling to our next item, this is the one that I'm going to say. We're going to be a little biased on A little bit. This is something that a disclaimer, purely because we had a conversation with these folks and they're great people. Yep, we do believe it is a great product.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let me go into full legal disclaimer. We have a very brief relationship with the people that own the company. Very good, that being said, we bought these before we even talked to them.
Speaker 2:This is non-sponsored.
Speaker 1:I was influenced by Quentin to buy this. It is fucking incredible Grab mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll stand up and eat that.
Speaker 1:But it is genuinely a. It is a. I'll say it. It is a game-changing product for what it is, and it kind of makes me mad because I don't know why no one has created the drift or navigation system before. So, essentially what this is that's funny, it's on both cameras, oh great. Essentially what this is, this is a two and a half liter reservoir. Is it two and a half? Oh, that was two.
Speaker 2:Is it two? Yeah, I think it's two, but it is a solid like a stiff reservoir. What's the word? Yeah, rigid.
Speaker 1:That's the word. It's a rigid reservoir, and the cool thing about it is it's pressurized, so you can see there's two tubes coming off the top of it. One, of course, is your drinks valve, the other one is the little pressure bowl, and what that allows you to do is one. It means when you're absolutely fucking gas packing it out, pull it off. It squirts. To do is one. It means when you're absolutely fucking gas packing out that thing and pull out, you can just it. Just it squirts. It's quick, yeah it just squirts.
Speaker 2:Um, I had to control myself from saying some out of pocket stuff right there. Yeah, trust me, um, should I just rip it out anyway? Yeah, let it go squirts harder than a stripper on a fire hose.
Speaker 1:But it's like everything comes apart which I really like, so you can clean pieces individually.
Speaker 2:My favorite feature of it personally is the entire concept of it, the pressure Also. It has to do with the filtering aspect. So you never have to let this out of your pack. You run it through your hose with the filter they provide. That clicks in, yep, and you can filter water with it. Stay in your pack. So essentially all you have to do is carry a water filter in there and like a dirty bag, and by doing so it it might seem heavier at first, but I actually decrease the amount of weight on my back because I'm not carrying four different water filters. And then if you're really worried, like I am, about water, is you just you can do the Aquamira tablets, even the dirty bag before you do it, and then you can double filter it all the while. This right here, like I. The way they set it up is that they run in the pannier of the initial set, which is how we're going to be doing it, and with that set up in the pannier, it never leaves and it also makes it so.
Speaker 2:Even in like cold weather, like this system, all you have to do is there's a main valve right here on this, on the actual pressure. You just undo this and hold your hose up and your water doesn't freeze in your hose, yeah, which is brilliant because it doesn't ruin the plastic. I've had literal water bladders break the hose because of frozen water.
Speaker 1:so, and then the other nice thing is is like, just from a practical standpoint, um, the cool thing with this is Like, just from a practical standpoint, the cool thing with this is that when you're packing something out, whether it be an elk, a deer, a bear, a moose, whatever, it's not going to get crushed. Yeah, nothing is crushing this. It won't pop in your pack. And so, one, you're always going to have water available when you want it. And two, you can't. You can't pop it, no.
Speaker 2:I will 100% say the only issue I have is it's a little bulky. So what I do personally for when I'm packing my pack, I pack everything in the pack without it and then I set that in afterwards and then, once I have that set in, I just strap the pack back on and it's completely fine. So that's the only difficulty I found with it where I just want it's a little bulky, like it'll push up the like stuff in your pack. But if you set up your pack correctly, it you just pack it first and then you put that in and it doesn't leave your bag. It holds water. It works incredibly well, like the pressure system works the nicest. Another really nice thing about it that I like is bottle fill so you can pressurize it. And they have the drifter bottles, which these are little 14-ounce, little like water bottles that fit in a bear spray poster, you know. So you don't need a bulky water bottle, you can literally just have that and you can use that for your electrolytes, your energy. I'm personally going to be running a nalgene just for a little extra water on me, but if I'm like I don't, I'm only going to run it for this hunt, but honestly I might run that little water thing because I like to keep my water my actual water and my electrolytes and all that separate 100. So having that like smaller kind of bottle makes it a little bit impactful on your water carrying I have.
Speaker 2:I saw this product initially when they did a thing with initial ascent to show how well it functions. I also walked by their booth a few times at the western high school. I didn't really go in there, unfortunately, which I should have, but I that was because I had spent so much money already that I just needed to get out of there and you still bought it, still bought it. It is $150 and I do not see a way that I would regret spending that money. Ultimately, I think that benefit of the pressure, that benefit of the hose, the inline water system, the back filtration, is incredible and they have a video on how to set it up and it is incredibly easy to set up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you pop the mouthpiece off, pop the filter and you elevate it, squeeze, give a little bit of pressure to the bag and then it just fills it. This never leaves your back, Never, For any reason.
Speaker 2:It's amazing. I love the idea. They're really good people. We talk to them and they we do.
Speaker 2:We preference our email to them saying we're not asking for free stuff yeah we just want to work with you because we both own the system and we both really like the system. Yeah, and that's something where it's like, no matter what you spend on your pack, no matter what you spend on your gear, water is going to be one of the most important things you actually work with. Yeah, so by having a system that works incredibly well, it's a and, honestly, I lost weight. I lost ounces on my pack because of it.
Speaker 1:So the entire system filter, all the extra hoses that like help the filter, the extra bag, all that is like a pound.
Speaker 2:It's not a full like one pound, like which, if you run like not to blast them because I've used hard side hydration, but if you're bringing two now jeans, the hard side hydration stuff and a water filter, a dirty bag and all that, you're at that weight anyway. Yep, so it's. I think, personally, drifter is the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean for the Sorry Windows update. Yeah, windows update For the money. There's nothing better on the market. This isn't going to $150.
Speaker 2:It's not going to pop on you. I feel like, ultimately, most of that money comes out, you're gonna spend the same amount of money on like a filter, like a sawyer filter. Yep, exactly so. If you get like an actual like sawyer filter, you're spending 150 bucks. You get the entire system around it, yeah, and it's quality. It isn't. There's no part of it that I think is lacking no, oh yeah, I would totally agree yeah, and if you have a pack with a hydro sleeve, that's even better.
Speaker 1:Yep yeah, it fits perfectly in your pack it. It doesn't pop, holy shit. If you have ever popped a lot of water, it is the worst day you'll ever have on about.
Speaker 2:Everything's wet and cold and your back feels like you just oh yes, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's an awesome product and I don't know if anyone else has done it. I've never had one that has it. But the tube has a magnet on it. That's great. It just it just made like they send you the the receptacle and it pops onto the initial. I don't know if anyone else does that. I don't know why they wouldn't, but it's in my opinion. That's the smallest quality-of-life feature that you could possibly have, but it makes all the difference, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I would say honestly, a huge shout-out, shout-out to the Drifter, really go check out Drifter Hydration on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Check out their website. It is genuinely an awesome product. We're not trying to sell it to you. We get nothing from you going and buying stuff. It's just a fucking cool product.
Speaker 2:It's a really cool product, a great idea, an awesome application In an actual backcountry hunting kind of sense Not even a backcountry hunting kind of sense, not even a backcountry hunting kind of sense. I feel like I was talking to him about how birds would be great, like a field vest, like for your dog water. Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2:A little collapsible bowl and it's pressurized, so you can literally just spray it there, yep, so yeah, that's another big item that's on the docket for ultimate testing this coming weekend. Another thing stock tripods. Okay, I personally am running the Slick 580 EZ. I am not. Yeah, no, I'm not running a super nice spotter, so I'm. I just got a. I working at sportsman's, I got a discount 120 bucks. It's heavy but it works. Running that with the loophole to sx2 alpine.
Speaker 2:Ultimately, I want to tryicer. That's, that's the reality. I want a tricer if I get a nicer spotter, which, after going to austria, I really, really want a squirrel. My interest is getting a squirrel dude. That factory is incredible. It's like an art museum as and like you go into. Like an art museum and every single thing of like the view of the swiss alps or the austrian alps is with a btx. Yeah, so like the like you know, like how you go to, like a fairy, like a, like a ward for something like, yeah, it's all btx, it's nice, it was insane. And like everything's made of crystal yep, of course, yeah, but suaro is the dream. Expensive, but the dream.
Speaker 2:I'm running the SX2. Decent quality. It was on sale. I think the only time I'll really use it is Spring Bear and at the range. But if I got Swirl, I'm bringing that Full Hubble telescope with 3D Miller. I'm thinking like the ATX with the 65. Nice Okay, I like the angles. I'm not a Nice Okay, I like the angles. I'm not a huge straight spotting scope kind of guy. I feel like a pirate.
Speaker 1:I'm right there with you. It definitely feels like a, like a spyglass or whatever, like a Captain.
Speaker 2:Jack Sparrow, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-d. But yeah, so I'm running that slick. It's decent quality. I mean, it's nothing special. It's not a lot to say on it personally, you, however.
Speaker 1:I have a Tricer. I spent the money. It's the AD the bigger one.
Speaker 2:I like the BC a lot, but the AD makes more sense.
Speaker 1:I wanted the taller tripod so I could stand and look. Fine, that makes sense. I have a head from Revic on it. I don't have one of the Tricer heads. That was purely a financial decision. The Revic head, I think, was $100 and the Tricer was like $200 or $300. Works fantastically. It is an absolutely bomber head. Um, and the tri-pons, I mean, there isn't a lot to say. It's a tri-pon, it was light as shit and it is super stable. Um, I like the fact that they the center post. You can change it out for a short one, um, but it's a great track line. I absolutely love it. Are you running a spotter? Yep, I am running the Vortex Razor UHD 65. That means a 2060.
Speaker 2:Money money, money. That's great. That's the sportsman's deal.
Speaker 1:It was a gift actually. Oh, it was a Christmas present. Yeah, that's the sportsman's deal. It was a gift actually.
Speaker 2:It was a Christmas present, that's a nice Christmas present. Okay, that kind of covers, tripods I think we're about 45 minutes in it's time to get into the neediest and grittiest A weapon yeah, my favorite. What I'm thinking we'll do with this is that you have a lot to say on your rifle ingredients Weapon yeah, my favorite, my favorite weapon. What I'm thinking we'll do with this is that you have a lot to say on your rifle. I have a lot to say on my bow. So what I'll do kind of shortly is I'll describe my rifle, what I'm using for bear, I'll let you kind of go into depth and then we'll do kind of the inverse.
Speaker 2:For archery, so broad strokes, I'm running the Weatherby Alpine CT, the 307 Action in a 7 PRC. I'm running 175 ELDXs out of it. I'm using the. I don't know how to reload. I'm using the MDT bipod like the base 200R1. And I'm using the Vortex Pro Rings medium in a Vortex Razor, lht 4.5 to 22 by 50. Nice. So that's kind of like my overall setup. Nothing really special, mostly factory. No suppressors, no, nothing. I'm running in the 7BRC. That's my one rifle, that's my only rifle. I used it to kill my bull this year. Excellent, only rifle. I used it to kill my bull this year. I'm using it to kill my bull this year with it, gonna use it on my bear hunts. It's super lightweight, works really well, no real complaints, except I want to run that Triceratops bipod when it comes out. But yeah, so that's kind of my quick overview. I don't have a lot to say in depth wise on it besides you covered the bases.
Speaker 1:I mean, um, I suppose it's a bsf barrel. Yeah, it's a bsf barrel. Um, they make specifically for weatherby yeah, um, and I will preference.
Speaker 2:I got that on discount through sports, so it's 2500 rifle setup. But so I that was like my last hurrah of working at sportsman, so it's like I want to get a really nice rifle that I would use forever and that works with my style hunting yeah, it's a great gun.
Speaker 1:I I like it a lot. I have two of them yep, um, I've won in 280 actually, which is my elk rifle, and then I have one in 7 brc.
Speaker 2:That I kind of just have yeah, so you want to get in the gritty on yours yeah, I mean I won't dive too crazy into it, but we'll see um.
Speaker 1:so for bear, I am running a, uh, christ Mesa FFT, which is the new stock bottom metal combo. It's a 20-inch barrel. It has a Vortex Viper on it with the sunshade on a set of 20 MOA rings it has a Tr trigger tech trigger in it that I put in it.
Speaker 1:It's on the MDT Oryx by Bud, nothing special, it's 100 bucks. I do run it with a suppressor. I run Rexolantium 30 cal on it. What else can I say about it? It's pretty basic. I only shoot leading up to bear season. Oh, what's the caliber? It's 300 PRC, 220 ELDXs. I don't know. I'm using H1000 powder.
Speaker 1:Actually I'm not going to say the load, just for safety purposes. I don't want someone to go copyboard. I do run, just for safety purposes. I don't want someone to go copy-blur memories. I do run the bolts long, so I don't actually use the magazine. It's a pretty bare-bone. I say it's a bare-bone. That setup's like a $3,000 setup with everything on it. But it is a pretty bare-bone setup and, like I said, it only comes out for bear hunting and if I'm not feeling that, I run a 28 nozzle model 21 nozzle or a nozzle model 21, that is 100, nothing to it at all.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, uh, vortex precision rings the uh serialized ones from Flotex that are. In my opinion, they are the best rings on the market. They're serialized so they're guaranteed to be matched. I've never had an issue with those, ever. I genuinely think they're worth $160 that you pay for them. Did I say I got that for free? Full disclosure the rifle was free. Yes, you said that I don't want anyone to convince me Ideas there. Most of the other guns that I have I paid full price for. But yeah, I love that gun. It shoots lights out and it kicks like a fucking mule.
Speaker 2:That's pretty much all there is. I'm surprised on my 7. My seven brc doesn't get at all, really. I have that fat break that they give you with it, though, so definitely why it probably doesn't kick as bad yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's something brc is. It doesn't need to kick a lot um, but it's really flat shooting it and yeah, are you using anything as a backrest, like?
Speaker 2:I'm using the selfie hunter pad as my backrest this year? Nothing, just shoulder in it. Yeah, nice I am. I. I've been practicing a lot with the pad, so that's why I want to shoot with pad. Plus, I am such a bad rifle shooter that I probably wouldn't tell the difference, so that's why I want to shoot with a pad. What's with your ball man? I am such a bad rifle shooter that I probably wouldn't tell the difference.
Speaker 1:I just have my dope chart on my side Down my knob and work with the wind that doesn't have a dope chart.
Speaker 2:I've never actually developed a physical dope chart. I spent all winter developing a dope chart because I lost a 370 inch pole on that day because of a bad shot. God damn, yeah, I think we, we it could have been like losers dilemma, like you make it bigger, but I well, I was with someone who was watching and like it, just I. It was at 600, it was in this clearing, we had no other opportunities to get to him and essentially I took the shot at exactly 600 at an upward slope and just went right over him and he just ran away and essentially what ended up happening is I realized that I relied on my Sig Range Rider too much, so I just decided to Sig Rangefinder too much, so I just decided to physically develop a dope chart and I'm way more confident with that now Just because I have it taped on the side of my rifle.
Speaker 2:I have it written in my ammo wallet. It's ready to go, I know exactly what it's doing after 600 yards and I also know now what to adjust for when shooting at an uphill, which is like half an MOA, half a full MOA down, based off that yardage. But like I compared the number I got with my SIG, which was like 21.
Speaker 2:MOA, something like that 600 yards to like the one I have now, which is about like 18. So it's like that much of a difference I found, like if you just do like your own physical development when you set it up with the sit and did you do it like full ballistics?
Speaker 2:um or no, I did factory ballistics, so that's another reason why I went wrong. But now that I have the common zero, so now I have actual ballistics, so it's a lot closer, but it's still not perfect, because I could follow the sig and it'll shoot like five inches high and then I'll go and I like I basically use that as a reference point after I got my ballistics and then develop my physical. So it's like 18.5 instead of 20, something like that, something like soistically it's going to be within that 1 to 1.5 MOA. So I just run the physical Plus. It's way easier, in my opinion, than to range. Oh, I forgot to get the MOA Range. Again. I can range, get the yardage, look at the side of my rifle, dial and shoot, and I've tested it. So I know what it's doing and I know exactly where it's going to hit. Yeah, 100%, that's the only way to do it, man, and then archery. I don't know if you can go first on this. Which bow are you going to talk about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so bow plural, even though Quentin's deeper into the archery hole than I. I'm the one with two bows, so I have a Matthews Phase 4 33-inch bow. I'm the one with two bows, so I have a Matthews Phase 4 33 inch, 70 pounds, with purple string, sponhog XL, and then Matthews Low Pro Quiver and I'm shooting FAT TKO 300 field meets out of that. 28 inches width X-Fanes, tri-fledged X-Fanes, up to about Two and a half inch ones.
Speaker 1:That's not a bad shot. I knocked over the wall and then I just ordered a new bow, which is you know your FPS on Facebook?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fairly slow. Are you shooting? What's the grain of weight for the arrow no 520. 520. So you're shooting 73 pounds? Yeah, 73 pounds, 520. You're shooting 73 pounds, yeah, 73 pounds. 520. Grain arrow roughly 270 feet a second. Are you shooting gas octane? Did you get the ghost? They're three years old. The American Zebras.
Speaker 1:No, they're gas. Whatever the highest level was three years ago, yeah, no, no, they're gas strings. I just don't know Whatever the highest level was three years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the high octane. Probably yeah, Because they came out the Ghost two years ago and then now they have System X.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what else no, especially if you like standard 25 cent furniture shop heapsite. What else on that? What's your rest? Rest is an integrate QA. Mx1 or MX2? Mx1. Mx2 and a disc man. Where are you shooting bar-wise? 12 on the front, 0 on the back, no back bar0 on the back, no back bar for this guy, not on this bow. What's bow number 2? Bow number 2 is a brand new, not yet delivered RH9. New point for this year. Reason I bought a new bow while I still have a new bow essentially it's two years old, three years old is that I didn't like having a 33-inch axle axle through the woods.
Speaker 2:Which, if you have the financial freedom to do, I'd be willing to pay you yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a tough decision. I really didn't go into an archer drought so I couldn't drop that one for me on a bow. But here we are, full custom from Lloyd. So it's going to have pink string. It's the wild land, I think is what they call it. The OD green riser, black and pink string. Harrow paris still gonna be that. Tko elites. I will never go up to anything else. Uh, being 55 grade um half off, half out the eastern match, half out. Uh, tri-fletch aae pro max. Super little guys, how much helical, as much helical as that fish will taste. It's full helical. Pink Halonox Running Severed 2.0 TI Nice.
Speaker 2:That's kind of set in stone for you.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm running. I'm carrying one Annihilator from it. Yeah, 1.5 paints. Okay, because I dropped so much off the the insert, I went from the negative to that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Kept it all 1.5, nice yeah hopefully gonna kill some shivers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um got South Dakota. I got Nice. Yeah, hopefully going to cut some sugars in that row. Yeah, we got South Dakota. I got potentially Nevada, potentially Utah, california, california, montana.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm only hunting California and Montana this year. Are they in South Dakota? I got a few, you should have won, I should you got less than a week. Frick yeah 16 bucks man 16 dollars only to apply. What's the tag 375?
Speaker 1:oh, that's it. Yeah, oh, I'm doing that. When I get home, license is like 25 bucks. Oh my god, yeah, yeah, done, fuck, yeah, yeah, it's a whole space. Yeah, the only thing, the only tip I will give yeah, yeah, done, fuck, yeah, yeah, it's a whole space. Yeah, the only tip I will give you is there are two tags that you can get. One is 100% private land, the other is private property.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll get in contact with you before I go. All right, so that's kind of the archery setup.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that gives you a lot of yeah, a lot of pretty much the RS9E exclusively, though. Yeah, that makes sense Shorter axle-to-axle is the real best.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be poking compared to your old one. Yeah, I guess I'm going to do this. Maybe 280s, 300. You're gonna have to have a little bit. It's also an 80 pound boat, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It's 80 pounds. You'll probably be in that 300 engine. Yeah, there we go about it. You'll probably be in that 300, I'm sure, two men Assuming a man enough to draw 80 pounds. If I can do it, I can do it. I'm not that worried about it. I think it's just going to make sure my form is 100% on point I want to talk to you about that.
Speaker 2:It's a little sky grotty.
Speaker 1:I was trying to do the fucking crispy like how you're actually supposed to shoot. I know he's which is like I love crispy stuff up here and then pull back and then settle and I'm like that's hard as fuck.
Speaker 2:I love crispy content but I pull my bow back Like a man. Yeah, I lean over a little bit and draw, not like that far, it's like this far, and I'm sitting. What's your release? You're running this year Spahog Wiseguy. You do the solid one or are you doing the rope?
Speaker 1:It's the bar, the bar, and then you're doing Boa, Yep and Boa Pretty solid setup. The only thing I don't like about boa is it's hard to get the same tension every single time.
Speaker 2:I just find I found an anchor spot for my boa, or not boa, anchor spot for my fingernail. But yeah, I mean, it makes sense, Same tension. Yeah, why don't you just mark it on your boa how much you turn? I could do that.
Speaker 2:that's what I would do yeah well, technically I'm doing what you know. Um, all right, let's hear about frankie, though. All right. Well, first I'm gonna start arrows. So I'm a big archery nerd. Nerd. I love working on my own bow. My buddy has a shop. I'm going to invest in a shop.
Speaker 2:So the arrows I'm running Knockdown, I'm running the Houston X-Knock, and then I'm running a Rift TKO the Elite, the 0.001 Straightness. And then I'm running a 4 inch Bowling Wrap the Elites, the 0.001 straightness. And then I'm running a four-inch Boeing wrap with four like four-fletch AAE Hybrid 26, all yellow. Oh, the dog's trying to attack my dick. Sorry, bobby, come here and then up. So I'm up front, I'm running a 25-grain aluminum Easton half-out Nice, and then a 100. I'm up front, I'm running a 25 grain aluminum Easton half out, and then a 100 point tip. So that's kind of like my overall arrow setup. It's cut to 27 and a half carbon to carbon. So I'm shooting 29 inch drawing, which is weird because you're a 29 inch drawing. Weird how our drawingrets talk back. So my arrow weight's about 421.2. And that's. I'm going to be running broadhead-wise this year. I'm going to be running the T2 from G5. So same kind of shit and I might run a Beast. Okay, even though I have a lighter arrow, I think mechanicals are already going, just because of my speed, which I'll get into.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, riser is a ventum riser in origin. And then that's the 2023 my limbs. Limbs are black VTM limbs from 2024. The last one was 2022-2023 limbs, because I'm running 80-pound limbs. They're at 75. And then I'm running the Z1S S-type cam. No, my riser is a Z1S riser. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why it's invented. It's a Z1S riser VTM limbs with an S-type hbx cam which is at 75 pounds. And I'm running the gas high octane streams in yellow. Essentially, I had to like crank those down to like make it work, because my axle axle is like 33 and an eighth and I knew that I cranked it down to get to 33 exactly. I'm running a 29-inch draw length and I'm running the MX2 Integrate Rest. I love the micro adjust on that thing.
Speaker 2:Sights, I'm running the Accel Landslide Picatanny 3-pin. Just got things at that site. I got that from my buddy from Facebook. So good, get about 165 yards worth of clearance with my arrows on it. So, and I'm running just a basic peep. Nothing special there. I haven't really dove into the peeps. I know about clarifiers and all that and magnifiers, I just don't need it. I'm running the Aim for a Pass-Through Mule 10-inch Stabilizer up front and Origin Camo. I'm running an 8-inch back bar Origin Camo with the original 8 ounces weight, so that's kind of like my overall setup. It's getting about 312 feet, I think. So it's cooking with that 420 grain arrow. I'm running the Spot Hog Blast guy but I'm running the Bell, not the Bola, and yeah, that's been my setup for a while.
Speaker 2:I have delved deep into the archery world and like tuning it, learning about it, it's been by far probably my favorite aspect of learning how to hunt is the archery world and like tuning it, learning about it, it's been by far probably my favorite aspect of learning how to hunt. Is the archery world? Um, just great culture, great environment, fun to do, really just a great time overall. Um, but yeah, so that's kind of like my archery setup and a quick little rundown so I can get into what size my d-loop is or my keypipe, but that's going to start going over the heads of a lot of people. But yeah, 312 feet, a second, 75 pounds. Yeah, it's fast, dude. I shot my arrow through the 29 AX2 8 pounder. It's like 323. Goddamn, that thing is cooking. So yeah, I should Go ahead. I should. I don't want to.
Speaker 1:It's right now. Yeah, thanks, gary, shout out.
Speaker 2:Thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three commit. Then we ran that this year and then next year I'm going to move on to a different bow. I just haven't made a commit. I've run it for the past year. I ran it last year and the year before that. I just made a commitment that I wanted to get one of everything with it. That's totally good.
Speaker 2:So I've killed an animal, killed a mule deer, killed a whitetail I'm not going to add bear to that list, because bones and bears have been on this part. I did it all out of fear I couldn't build a bear. It was probably smaller than the size of your dogs, so I decided to pass on that. So I found black bear. I didn't rest on the black bear. It was probably a tiny little thing. I was like I'm not so yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of like my overall setup for the country. That's 75 pounds I, so I work out a lot. Like I said, I felt like at 70 I almost got unstained. It's kind of like interesting, which is weird to say like I feel like the 100 pound poses work pretty better and the way I kind of conditioned myself for that is I used to do a MRF once a week, so like that, 100 pull-ups once a week. That just got my drawing straight up. Significantly. The reason I'm not running at 80 pounds with the 80 pound limbs is because I have run it before and it's blown up. It's blown up. It's blown up three times. I'm not trying to have it blow up a fourth because I've made another commitment that if it blows up again I'm giving it a new bow. So 75 pounds is about the perfect amount of push for it. Yeah, that's the kind of weaponry set up kind of a full shebang. Hell yeah, brother. Any last thoughts?
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