Is The FAT LADY Okay? | Prisoner of Azkaban

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Harry. Sorry, I'm late, a Harry Potter podcast. It's me, Coda.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

It's me, Alicia.

SPEAKER_04 0:07

And today we are here to talk about Harry Potter and the Prisoner Basket event. Chapter 8, Flight of the Fat Lady, and Chapter 9, Grim Defeat. We have a double feature for you. As we're reading these last two chapters, we were like, these two chapters just go so well hand in hand together. We just want to give it to you guys all in one episode. And I'm excited to really get to chapter 9. Like, that's why I'm really looking forward to discussing with Alicia. But you know, we also gotta discuss chapter 8 first, which also has some good bits in it as well. So we're gonna be discussing that and more in this chapter. Snape is continuing to show his ass. Harry nearly died. I'm talking about chapter 9. Harry nearly died. Um, but then we also have the fat lady running for her life. Oh, I'm missing the fucking big moment of chapter eight. Sirius Black is in the motherfucking Hogwarts Castle. How could I forget that?

SPEAKER_02 0:55

He's in the building, y'all!

SPEAKER_04 0:58

He is in the building. We're to black. So we will have to unpack all of that shortly. But before we do that, hi Alicia, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:07

I'm doing good. I've the weather is changing. We're getting like good March weather. We are recording this on March 8th. So shout out to all the women. Happy International Women's Month. I remember I think it was my there was a middle school gym teacher who was also the girls' soccer team coach, and he was from Italy. And every March 8th, he would bring in flowers for his team for all the girls. And so that's when I first realized, oh, this is like a legit holiday. And then I've I've seen it like grow over the years because it wasn't that big in the US, but it's always been big in Europe specifically. And I feel like now on Instagram, like every year you see like all these posts, like, oh, so grateful to be a woman, or like, shout out to all my women. So if you identify as a woman, happy women's history month, happy International Women's Day. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 2:06

I am doing okay. Yeah, just going through the motions.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Going through the motions. I know our listeners are, you know, they're a little invested in what we had dropped last episode.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Which was what?

SPEAKER_02 2:19

You said you were gonna go on this date. How was it? Any updates that you want to share?

SPEAKER_04 2:25

Messy, messy, messy. Well, you're doing it on behalf of listeners, so I understand. Um, yeah. So, in regards to that date that I mentioned in the last episode, it didn't happen.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Well, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:45

But I did come across a tweet that was saying something about Ugly Betty and how good it was, and I remember you mentioned that. I'm gonna move it to the top of my list for you to like watch. Yeah, at least like the first season or something, just so I can like get a little insight into it.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

I think you will be obsessed with Wilhelmina Slater's and like her character development and her assistant and the dynamics with her and her assistant or like her best friend, but then she also is like she might terabanksify him, if you know what I mean. You know, and just all of it. It's just amazing. It's there's heart, there's laughter, there's cuntiness, it's it's an amazing show.

SPEAKER_04 3:23

I love that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Shall we get into the Harry Potter of it all?

SPEAKER_04 3:28

We should get into the Harry Potter of it all, but before we do, did you know we got a new five-star review? Look, when I tell you, like, y'all don't understand. I'll be checking the reviews like daily like when I wake up with my morning coffee or tea, I'm like, did anyone write us a new five-star review? Did anyone write us a new five-star review? And I was so pleasantly surprised when I checked a few days ago and I saw a new one. I said, Oh my god. So this review comes from WB20. Okay, I'm fucking up the name. It comes from WB22715 on Apple Podcasts, and it says, This is so refreshing. Even though I've read the books and watched the movies plenty of times, I really look forward to every week's episode. Sweet, nice review, and I it just I really really appreciate it. It really made my day when I saw that because it just it only takes a few moments to do, and it just means a lot for us. And so, yeah, so thank you, WB. Okay, now finally, it is time for us to discuss Harry Potter, the Prisoner of Ask Man, chapter 8, Flights of the Fat Lady. So we start this chapter off continuing on into the school year where Defense Against the Dark Arts with Professor Lupin now being everyone's favorite class. All of his lessons since the Bogart in the wardrobe were have been just as interesting and interactive. From the students studying red caps, which are like goblin-like creatures, to kappas, which are like creepy water dwellers that look like scaly monkeys. Again, this is defense against the dark arts, so these aren't like cute little creatures like haggards or flower worms and buckbegino, these are like evil near dwellers, so definitely not like you know the most serial creatures, but it's good that they're actually learning about how to defend themselves against these type of creatures and more in Lupin's class. The only haters of Lupin out of all the students are of course Draco and his like goons. Draco would even go as far as like make mention of Lupin's like shaggy robes and his appearance, comparing it to that of his old house elf, who we know is who Alicia?

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Dobby Dobbs.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

Dobby Dobbs. Shout out to Dobby Dobbs, wherever he is living his best free life.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

He's like Dapper Dawn by Dobby Dobbs. He's like watching me like all dripped out now.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

He's free. I didn't have to wear a pillow sack anymore. I am free. I love that for him. But he's saying this loud enough in a loud enough whisper that Lupin can hear anytime Lupin's nearby. And I just think that's like crazy disrespectful for you to be talking about a teacher's like appearance and robes and stuff. Like, I don't know. I just something about that, just like, okay, bully Harry and Neville all you want. They're your age mates, kids will be kids. But like for you to have the disrespect to like talk shit about a teacher in their presence, like, is wild to me. And Lupin, just I can't be an educator because I'll I'll be slapping kids left and right, not right. But you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

At least, at least with my friends that have like immigrant parents, like there is just so much more respect that we give our teachers than people that were like their parents were born here. I feel like it's just ingrained in us to like respect elders, and some kids just don't have it like that. And like if I was in his class, this would irk me so bad. I would have to make sure that his other arm really hurt as well. Let's just say that.

SPEAKER_04 6:37

Not you gonna hurt, not you're gonna put the other arm in the cast as well. I'm screaming, that's that's good. I like that. Yeah, and even like I remember like middle school, high school, whatever, when we had those substitute teachers that were like from a different country, so they maybe had like a thick accent, like thick African accent, thick Indian accent, whatever, then that was like the baseline way for students to like make jokes saying they couldn't understand them or not following their instructions, whatever. And maybe again, because I'm an immigrant or whatever, I know people that have like thick accents, like that type of like foolishness never like appealed to me. And even if they didn't have an act, I don't know, like you said, just a level of respect for adults and stuff like that that not everyone has, and in this case, Draco and his people don't have, so yeah, very interesting. But Harry, like most students, loves Lupin's class, but wished this love was spread to his other classes, like potions and divination. Snape, of course, is being his usual nasty self. Um, I'm sorry, our title episode for last episode. I was so laughing about it. Like, what made you say that? That is episode. I just I can't deal sometimes. When I listened to it back, I said not her sick snake needs some fun.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

When I saw the episode title, Snake Needs Some Cat, I was like, that is such a creative title. And then I listened to the episode, I was like, bitch, you said it, that's why he wrote it. But yeah, put a one in the chat if you think Snape needs some cat.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

Okay, thank you. Oh, ones all through the chat. Okay, so yeah, Snape is being his usual nasty self, and he's now like in an extra vindictive mood as word has spread around Hogwarts about Neville's bog art turning into him before being adorned in Neville's grandma's clothes with a ridiculous spell. And I'm like, Snape, whose fault is that? Like, it's your is your fault alone that Neville's biggest fear is you. Like, I don't know who you have to be mad at besides yourself. But Snape didn't find the whole thing funny, and any mention of Lupin's name, it just brings like a menacing look to Snape's eyes. Like he's like out to get Lupin now for some reason. And he's obviously continuing to relentlessly bully Neville. So I'm like, that doesn't help Neville at all because he's already afraid of the man, and now he's just gonna continue to be tormented by him because of this whole bogart situation. Okay, and then Trelawney's definition class isn't any better, it's just as annoying. And it didn't help that Professor Trelani's now, like anytime she sees Harry, she just looks at him with like tear-filled eyes because of the death omen and the grim that she foresaw in the first class. And the Provarti Patel and Lavender Brown, um, some of Harry's classmates have now like taken a liking to Divination and Professor Trelawani. So they would often spend their lunch in the divination classroom, and then upon like rejoining the rest of the students after lunch, they're just like giving off this air of like knowing something that the others don't know because you know their third eye must be opening wider than the rest of the students.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Me like shit.

SPEAKER_04 9:20

Just doing too, just doing too much, and they're like speaking to Harry in like soft whispers, following in Professor Trelani's footsteps about the omen or whatever. But I do like that, like because there's so many different subjects and specialties that like students are finding what relates to them. So, like for Harry, I know he really likes Defense Against the Dark Arts. Hermione likes everything. Ron, I don't know, I think he's just kind of like a I'm just here to pass type student. But for Provarti and Lavender, like they really have connected with Divination and like that's gonna be their like kind of focus. So it's cool, good for them.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

Yeah. Finally, we're saying something semi-positive about Pavardi because she's been getting she's been getting it this season. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 10:03

Has she really? I feel like we haven't uh I what am I gonna say? We call well Harry calls her Pug Faced, and I mentioned No, you're thinking you're thinking about um Penelope. No, you're thinking about what's her name? Pansy Parkinson, the Slytherin girl that's always up to the city.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

I'm sorry, Pavard. I'm so sorry that the dyslexia. Okay, so Pavardi's is Pavardi Gryffindor.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

Povardi is Gryffindor, yes. Oh, and she has a twin sister.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Oh no, don't come back.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

She has a twin sister. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Well, who's the twin?

SPEAKER_04 10:37

Uh the twin is Padma, but she's in Ravenclaw, so they're in different houses.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Shadow Padma from Top Chef.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

Oh, yeah, Padma Laksh. I know you're talking about it. No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's move on. So no one is like liking care of magical creatures now that Hagrid has lost all of his passion and his spirit of like, you know, having this class after the whole like buckbeak draco ordeal, he has now resigned the class to just looking and caring after flopper worms. And they just spent class after class feeding them lettuce. So yeah, Hagrid has just lost all type of spirit and passion. And I understand, you know, if he probably feels like he can't like do anything now because he doesn't want the students to get hurt in any other type of way, so he doesn't want to bring any other type of creatures out. Like he doesn't want to lose his job, he doesn't want it. So I don't know. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Yeah, I mean, if every day I'm gonna be passing out bib lettuce, I'm just gonna go ahead and clock out. I hope something changes with him.

SPEAKER_04 11:39

Yeah, yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully. Okay. So thankfully at the start of October, Harry now had his favorite thing to occupy his time, Quidditch. So one Thursday evening, Oliver Wood calls a team meeting to discuss their plans for this season. This would be Wood's final season of Quidditch at Hogwarts as he is in his seventh year, and he would be graduating at the end of this school year. So that's you know, I kind of said out.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

I was gonna I was gonna say, thank God.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Oh, scream. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Oh, because him and these damn speeches, and it's like, we get it, this is your life, but all right, it is it is sad. It's the end of a an era, and he definitely took his job serious, which is good.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

He's very passionate about his Quidditch, yeah. So as Wood talks to the team, he has a bit of desperation in his voice stating that this is his last chance to win the Quidditch Cup and he'd never get another chance. Because I guess for you know, for everyone, not everyone goes on to play what is it, major like Quidditch at the professional level, because that is a career path. So I think for him, he knows that maybe his career, his Quidditch career quote unquote peaks in at Hogwarts. So he's like, please let me just end my time at Hogwarts having won the uh World Quidditch Cup. But yeah, so he's just you know talking to the team about this. He discusses how Gryffindor hasn't won for several years now, and the past few years, due to unforeseen events, hinder their chances, also, including like injuries in the first year. I forgot. Yeah, what happened in the first year that they didn't win? I don't remember, but I know in the second year the Quidditch Cup was canceled because the chamber of secrets was open and Jenny got taken in and all that. So that kind of put a kibosh to that. I don't remember what happened in the first year specifically that made the Quidditch get canceled, whatever. But okay. So he then goes on to pump up his team. He's complimenting the three chasers who are all ladies. Shout out to Women's History Month, Alicia Spinnett, Angelina Johnson, and Katie Bell, followed by the two beaters who are Fred and George Weasley, and they're just blushing and just like accepting Wood's praise. And then finally he praises Harry, their seeker, who has never failed to win them a match yet, always catching that snitch right on time. The team is like rallying around Wood, encouraging him that they will win this year and that they will like start practicing three times a week in all types of weather conditions cold, wind, rain, whatever they need to do, they are determined to win it all this year. So I love that the team is like in this like hurrah, like we got this, like, let's go. I love that for them. And they're gonna be put to the test very soon. Um, so Harry returns to the Gryffindor common room one evening after practice to find it full and buzzing with excitement. Harry finds Ron and Hermione, who are working on star charts for astronomy, and they let him know that a bulletin has been posted announcing the first Hogsmead weekend will take place at the end of October near Halloween. So I thought, all right, so Hogsmead has finally arrived. Hogsmead has finally arrived. I I've always admired student athletes, especially like in high school. Like they have a full day of school. Sometimes, like depending on the sport or the student's personal ambitions, they'll like do like a was it a practice in the morning, yes, then a full day of school. Yeah, practice in the morning, a full day of school, then practice afterwards, and then still have to go home, do homework, rest up, like dedication, commitment. I love it. I'm so like, yeah, for Harry in this case, like he has a full day of school at Hogwarts, and then he has Quidditch and stuff, and then he comes back to common room to like, you know, entertain his peoples. But not to mention he's, you know, the boy who lived and there's someone trying to kill him. I'm like, I don't know how he does it all, but okay, so this news Harry likes slings into the chair, um, already knowing his fate to not be able to go to Hogwarts. Hermione reading this behavior reassures him that he'll be able to go next time as they're about to catch Sears Black soon. Ron counters it, saying that Black's not foolish enough to try anything at Hogsmead, and that Harry should ask McGonagall if he can go this time, as the next time, the next visit may not be for a while. Hermione's like, absolutely not, but Ron continues to push Harry to ask. And Harry agrees with Ron and said so acts, and before Hermione can even fully open her mouth to say anything else, Crooks Shanks, Hermione's cat, leaps into her lap with the spider dangling from his mouth. Okay. So Hermione is like wooing Crookshanks about the spider. As Crookshanks eats the spider, his eyes are like fixed on Ron or to Ron's discomfort, Scabbers, who Ron mentions is sleeping in his bag. Harry yawns in exhaustion after a long day of class and practice, but decides to pull out his own star chart assignment to get it done. Ron offers to let Harry copy his. Hermione's like sharing this disapproving look because you know she's not one to let you copy. Like, Hermione, come on, eat like, damn, oh my god, like I understand. I understand to some degree, but like, come on. Like, especially like your friend has just had a long ass day. He just had quit his practice. Like, let him just like, you know, come on.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

So Crookshanks is still eyeing Ron when in the next moment he leaps off Romani and pounces on Ron's back, clawing and tearing at it. Ron at this point is crazy. He's like whirling the bag around as Crookshanks is like continuing to latch onto it. Like, I'm just imagining Ron like swinging the bag around the common room as there's a whole cat attached to it, just making noises. Like, what in the world is this? And as Ron swings the bag, Scabbers falls out, and Scabbers runs under a cupboard as Crookshanks like pursues Scabbers to no avail, and like Crookshanks is like swiping at the cupboard, trying to get at Scabbers. Hermione and Ron rush over, each like both grabbing their pets. Ron is like furious at this point. He's like showing Hermione Scabbers, like who is like skinning bones and just like shaking in fear, and demands that Hermione keeps the cat away from him. Hermione's pleaing that Crookshanks doesn't understand that in this case it's wrong. Like it's just natural for like cats to like chase Rhodes and stuff like that. But Crookshanks doesn't understand that. Like in this case, like Scabbers is like Ron's pet and it's not like a rat to go after. Like it's just the whole thing. And Ron claims that there's something weird about Crookshanks, and that it heard him say that Scabbers was in his bag and that Crookshanks has it out for Scabbers, to which Hermione just retorts that's like ridiculous. Like Crookshanks probably just smelled Scabbers, like it's not that serious. Ron ends the conversation saying that Scabbers was here first, which he's technically right. Like Ron has had Scabbers at Hogwarts since their first year, and that he he's ill because of all this, and he's storming it, he storms off with Scabbers to the boys' dormitory. Whose side are you on in this ongoing battle with Ron and Scabbers versus Hermione Cricksthanks? Like, are they both at fault? Is it just something that can't be helped?

SPEAKER_02 17:58

I think Hermione should be a little bit more apologetic that Ron's pet is being like attacked at the end of the day. And yes, I know you have a cat and it's a cat via mouse, but there's the mouse or like the rat is so scared and will like shake for hours on end from this, and it's like it's creating a big emotional toll on your friend and his pet. At least acknowledge, like, I'm sorry for this. I also think that the cat has some sort of like magical ability. Because I remember there was a a shopkeeper that was in charge of all these like creatures, and she said that Ron's rat had no power essentially, and that he should try these other rats that do have powers. So some of these animals can have some sort of magical powers, and I think that Hermione's cat has like some sort of intuition, maybe psychic ability, something. Maybe you can speak English. I don't know. Maybe it's been on Duolingo for like the past six months trying to prepare itself for Hogwarts.

SPEAKER_04 19:10

That's interesting. But what then would okay, so what then would make the cat want to go after Scabbers because of that the Oh, because it's been on site like since since the first encounter.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Like one day I will kill this thing. It might not be today, it can be tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 19:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

It's like Snape V Harry.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

Yes, yeah. I yeah, and I think just some writing, probably just a bad choice in a pet. I know she wanted a pet, but like you know your friend has a rat. Like, why would of all pets you get is a cat, but I don't know. Crookshanks caught her caught her eye, and now we're in this forever, forever war between the you know the two families. So we'll see what comes of it.

unknown 19:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

I love how passionate Ron is in his care of how passionate and protective Ron is in his care of scabbers. I think that's very endearing.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

So especially when he didn't care about elderly Earl and his pilgrimage from Egypt to the to Great Britain, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 20:10

That is a good point.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

And then now about a rat, you really care about his well-being?

SPEAKER_04 20:14

Okay, yeah, yeah. I guess because scabbers was passed down to him from Percy, I think, and it's like his own thing, especially because he has like all those siblings, like he doesn't have a lot that's his own. So scabbards is his own personal belonging, like whereas Earl is like the families, yeah. It's like a family thing. So he's like, I'll I'll wear you out, but my little rat Scabby, I'm not gonna let him like you know be harmless.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

My little pony, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

Yes. Meanwhile, Harry's just sitting in the damn common room looking at them fight, like, I am fucking tired. I am sore for this cringe practice. I still got a whole bunch of homework to do. I do not got time for y'all, and y'all's bullshit. So he does not even intervene or say anything about it. I said, I know that's right. Because Hedwagina would never Hedogina is off living her best life somewhere. We haven't heard from her since Harry got to Hogwarts.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

I heard she's in France. Popping out, hello cage.

SPEAKER_04 21:03

Probably. So the tension continues into the next day as Ron is still in a bad mood and barely speaks to Hermione during her biology, even though they're all like seated together working on the same like plant assignment. Hermione asks Timothy how Scabbers was, and Ron just replies that he was hiding under his bed, still shaking. And that's all that's all Ron gives Hermione in that moment. The next class transfiguration was transfiguration with McGonagall. Harry has decided he would ask about Hogsmeat, thinking how he would go about it while waiting in line to enter the class. But there was some commotion near the class entrance. Okay. Now, Lavender Brown, as Harry and the rest of the trio approach, Lavender Brown is crying with Provardi, comforting her. Provardi explains on a crying Lavender's behalf that Lavender had gotten news that her pet rabbit Binky had been killed by a fox. Lavender explains to her sobs that she should have known as today was the day. Her mind is confused, and Lavender goes on to quote Professor Trelani's prop prophecy. That on the 16th of October, the thing that she was dreading would happen. Our girl Hermani, well, my girl hermani. I don't know how you're gonna feel about her in this moment. My girl Hermani, of course, she can't let this go. You know, she's very anti-divination, and Professor Trelani Janand. So she asked Lavender, So you were specifically dreading Binky being killed by a fox. And to which Lavender responds, Well, not necessarily. Well, no, not a fox. But she was obviously dreading Binky dying. And Hermione takes that in, and then still not letting it go. She says, Was Binky an old rabbit? And Lavender sobbing says, No, he was only a baby. To which Hermione then says, So why are you dreading him dying if he was only a baby? At this point, Provide is giving Hermione the death. Like, girl, ease up. Like, why are you trying to logic this away? This girl is in pain. Like, let it go. But that does not deter Hermione as she turns to address the crowd at this point and asks them to look at the situation logically. Hermione explains that Binky didn't die today. Lavender only got the news of it today, and she couldn't have been dreading it because the news of it came to her as a shock. So Ron takes this moment to comfort Lavender by whacking Hermione one good time with some shade, saying, Lavender shouldn't pay Hermione any mind as she doesn't think other people's pets matter very much. And when I say Professor McGonagall arrives right on time to let them in because Ron and Hermani were looking at each other with daggers if looks could kill. They all fall into the class, sit on either side of Harry, and don't speak to each other for the rest of the class. I said, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Where do you fall on that whole lavender prophecy thing? I feel like Hermani made some good points.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

I also feel like Hermani would never let a friend join a cult. Because she was gonna be like, hold on, break this down. This random stranger told you that if you believe in this, you're gonna do this. Okay, let's think about this. I mean, the logic is there. I'll give it to her, but the timing was not empathetic. Like it was she timing. Like yeah, the thing just got eaten alive and it's a baby.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Baby rabbit.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

And you're yeah, and your classmates crying about it. Like reason it away with your Ron and her hairy later, like not in the moment.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

And then maybe the next day be like, hey, you know, let's take her days with a grain of salt, and like maybe that wasn't the case. But give her some time to grief.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Yeah, I think she's a Virgo as I am I. And it's just like we just jump right to the logic of it all. Like instead of like, we're not like a why are you crying why you I guess we are a why are you crying type of type of sign. Like, we're just gonna look at you in confusion, like, but if you think about it like logically, like so I relate to her mind in this moment because I'm just like, girl, like, what do you cry for?

SPEAKER_02 24:43

But no matter the it's less why are you crying, and it's like why, why are there tears right now? Like it's like it's like very judgmental.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

Yes, yeah, yeah. But you're right at the end of the day, yeah. But it's time and place type situation. Like you can be right inside your head, you don't have to prove that you're right right now in this moment, but uh money. So at the end of Transfiguration class, Magongo is actually the first to bring up Hawksmead as she instructs her Griffin Dor students to turn in their permission slips to her as she's their head of house before Halloween and reminding them also that no form means no hoxmead. Neville puts his hand up, stuttering that he's about to say that he thinks he lost his form. But before he finishes, Mugano said Magonal says that his grandma sent it directly to her as she thought it'd be safer this way. And with that, she dismisses the class. Now, Ron pushes for Harry to ask Magongo now. Mind you, she literally just stated that no form, no village. But Harry must think because he's a boy who lived, the chosen one, that he could have a little story with McGonagall. He must not know who he's talking to. So once the class clears out, Harry approaches Magongo and says that his aunt and uncle forgot to sign the form. So hopefully it'll be alright if he could still go to Hogsmeat, anyways. M'Gonagle stares at him looking down from her glasses. You know how, like, when people have glasses, they look down just like so you can see the eyes. And then she's like, he's just like starts looking at papers and like shuffling through her desk or whatever. And then she says, Unfortunately, no, no form, no village. That's the rule. Ron is like back there somewhere, and he just keeps gesturing Harry to like keep like pressing her on it. So Harry pleased saying that his aunt and uncle are muggles and they don't understand. But if McGonagal said he could go, to which McGonagall cuts him off and says, But I don't say you can go, and she's neither parent nor guardian. And at this point, she looked at him with an odd expression on her face. Harry wasn't sure if this was like pity or something, but McGonagal apologized and said that that was her final word on the matter and for him to hurry on to his next class. Womp womp. I feel like McGonagall probably felt because she knows Harry's whole situation, orphan parents. She literally was there with Dumbledore when he got dropped off on those horrible people's steps. So she knows that those people are not. And she mentions in that first chapter that why are we leaving Harry with these people? They're horrible. So she knows that the chances of him signing this permission slip for Harry to go to hot speed were probably 0%. But again, the rules are the rules in this case. So she's probably looking at him like, oh, you poor boy, but I have to be uh firm on this matter. I can't play favorites, especially when there's someone out there trying to kill you. So yeah, I'm not gonna be the one to sign this permission slip and get us all caught up. So at this point, Harry has accepted his fate. Ron had a lot of unpleasant names for McGongo due to her decision to say no. And I'm curious as to what Ron, between this chapter and next chapter, Ron says a lot of like things that get censored from the book itself. So I'm like, what was he calling these people? Like, Ron's got a little potty mouth on the bottom.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

And if JK's choosing to censor, then we know it's bad.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

That part. But yes, so all of the things that Ron is saying about McGonagall out of frustration that Harry can't go is much to Hermione's displeasure. Hermione, of course, is agreeing with McGonagall saying that it's all for the best. For the next couple of days, Harry has to endure everyone talking sadly about Hogsmead. Nothing anyone says to try and encourage him. Harry made him feel any better. Dean Thomas offered to forge Uncle Vernon's signature as he's good with the quail, but that wouldn't work because he already told McGonagall that Uncle Vernon hadn't signed it. Ron suggested a visibility cloak, to which Romani quickly refuted, reminding them that Dumbledore said that even the mentors can see through them, so that wouldn't be a good idea either. Percy offers the least comfort, the least amount of comfort, stating that he didn't understand the hype over Hogsmead and that it wasn't all that. And then he proceeds to list all the cool things about it. He said, The sweet shop, there's so many tasty treats there, and Zonko's joke shop is like crazy fun, and the haunting shrieking shack, like that's a scary haunt that you want to visit. But besides that, Harry won't be missing much. I know Harry probably gave him the nastiest look, mean mug, like, shut the hell up. Like, who even actually be part of this conversation? Like, you just know how to ruin a good time. So Percy was definitely not helpful in that moment in terms of making Harry feel any better. And I'm sure Harry was just like, at this point, everyone just leads this damn castle. Leave me to myself and my miseries, having to be here by myself because my uh my guardians suck and everyone sucks and everything sucks. So Harry would not be going to Hogsmead this time around, which is really sad.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

And I want to go back to what you said. I forgot if it was Ron or Hermani that said that, oh, it was Ron. He said, Well, Sirius Black can't get you at Hogsmead. Why do you think he thinks that?

SPEAKER_04 29:15

I honestly don't know. I think he said he wouldn't be bold enough to do it because there is a wizarding village, so there's a whole bunch of wizards that would probably recognize him, and like the minister, the ministry of magic and all the law enforcement could like descend upon that village quickly to get him. So like that's somewhere he wouldn't want to be seen. I think that's what he means by that. But it's not a guarantee. So I'm like, Ron, that's a big assumption. Because all it'll take if for if for Harry to wander off the beaten path once he gets there and seriously snatch him up. So I don't know if Ron was just why Ron was just assuming that.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

Okay, but it's like he has some reason for why why he's okay, that makes sense. So unfortunately, Harry sees his classmates get to go to Hogsmead, and Filch, the caretaker of Hogwarts, is posted up at the entrance hall, making sure that only those students with filled-out permission slips can pass. Draco takes the opportunity to sneer and say to Harry, stay here, Potter. Scared of passing the Dementors. Harry does Okay, that felt like her mining, but pretend that was Draco. Harry does his best to muffle out the hate and he returns to the Gryffindor Tower all with his lonesome. He tells the fat lady who that's what her name is in the book. Okay. I don't know why she doesn't have the pleasure of having a name, but from for this chapter, I am gonna be calling her Fat Lady. He tells Fat Lady who is sleeping, the password, which is Fortuna Major, and makes his way to the Gryffindor Common Room, which is actually quite filled right now with younger students who are not able to go to Hogsmead, as well as older students who have gone to Hogsmead enough where it's not like this shiny new thing. And so they don't feel the need to go every time the opportunity presents itself. Colin, who we have not seen this book, Colin Creevy, is the first to hop on this ass. And he's he goes to greet Harry and he's like, Oh my god, do you want to come sit with my friends? Because this is an opportunity for him. Like, hey, you don't have your friends, come with mine. Harry's not trying to deal with all these questions, and he politely declines and says, I'm actually gonna go to the library. So he heads back out, and the fat lady turns to him and said, What was the point of waking me up? Because why'd you do that?

SPEAKER_04 31:44

And honestly, move it. Don't interrupt my CS. Make up your mind. Make up your mind. Are you coming in or out? Like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 31:50

She gives me like lunch lady vibes. Like, are we are we purchasing or are we just loitering? What's going on? Grab the chocolate milk and let's go. He runs into a very suspicious Filch again, who asks him quite quickly, What are you doing out here? Harry says, I'm not doing anything, and Filch orders him to return to his common room. Last week I asked why Snape was so grumpy, but we're gonna have to get into Filch's psyche one day because he's also someone that I find very unpleasant.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

Well, you remember we unpacked that a little bit. You remember that moment when Harry got caught doing something in the hallway he wasn't supposed to do, and he went to Filch's office and he saw that quickspell like letter pamphlet on his uh Filch's desk?

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Like to become a wizard quick, and then he like it.

SPEAKER_04 32:40

Yeah, like yeah, for like struggling wizards or people that are like don't have any magical ability and stuff, something like that. I was like, yeah, yeah. So I think we unpacked that, like, it, you know, just having to be around all these magical students, but having no magical ability of your own could possibly build some resentment, some unfulfilled potential jealousy, it's the Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

How can he hate from outside the club? You can't get in.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Oh, yes. Um, but in this case, unfortunately, he's in the club because he has to work at Hogwarts day in and day out in the city. Literally.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

All right. Harry starts to then walk towards the Allery to go see Hedwigina La Diva, because as we said, he hasn't seen her in a minute. But he hears his name called by Professor Lupin. He entered Professor Lupin's office and Lupin asks him, way more friendly, what are you doing? And Harry says, Oh, I had to stay behind because I didn't get my form filled out. I couldn't go to Hogsme. And Lupin says, Come on, come on inside. Lupin tells Harry he actually just received received a I'm gonna call it a grindy loaf for the next defense against the dark arts class. And Harry scans the room and yep, sure enough, spots a sickly green creature with very sharp horns in a large water tank. Lupin explains that this creature is actually a water demon. Okay. The trick to this water demon and like overtaking it is to break their grip because they have very long and bony fingers, and you're supposed to take advantage of that, but that will come up in class. Lupin offers Harry tea and he taps his wand to the kettle, which instantly comes to a seeming boil. Lupin then jokes to Harry that he must have had enough of reading tea leaves. And it's like, how do you know that? But Professor McGonagall had told Lupin about Harry's death omen. And Lupin asks Harry if something if there's something from that class that he worries about. Harry decides to lie, even though he couldn't help but think of the the dog from Magnolia Crest, the omen from the book, and everything like that. But he doesn't he doesn't open up about that. This answer was okay for Lupin, but then Lupin could tell that Harry something was off. So he said, Hey Harry, like what's worrying you right now? He attempts to lie, but he spots eyes with that water demon and says, Alright, when we were in class the other day with the bug arts, you kinda took over, you didn't really let me go. And he's like, What was the reason for that? Because in Harry's mind, maybe he thinks that Lupin doesn't think he's like talented enough, or there was like some insecurity there. And Lupin is very honest, and he says, Oh, I thought it was obvious. I assume the Bogart would have turned into Lord Voldemort, and we couldn't have had that in the staff room. That would have been a mess. Harry's like in his head, oh, you said Lord Voldemort. Like you didn't say the man what is his name? The one that shall not be named.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

He he who shall not be named. And that's what Harry's so used to hearing because like literally everyone besides him says that instead of saying his name. And Lupin's like, I'm not on no punk shit. Yeah, I'm gonna say his name.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

So Harry's like, oh, you're one of us. Absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

One of us, one of us.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

And Harry said, Well, I wasn't actually gonna think of him, I was thinking of the Dementors. And Lupin smiles and says, Oh, what you fear most of all is fear. And he was quite impressed by this. Harry starts to feel more comfortable, and all of a sudden, I hear this agitating, grating voice. It's Snape knocking on the door. Lupin goes, Come in. And Snape is walking in holding a smoking goblet. And of course, he has to give Harry the one two glare. So they exchange the Archnam glare. His Archnam being a 13-year-old in his third year of Hogwarts. Okay. An orphan.

SPEAKER_04 37:05

Clock it. Mind you. This is the grown man we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Grown question mark. And Lupin warmly says, Oh, you can leave it over here, Severus. I was showing Harry my Grindilo Grindilo. Grindilo. And Snape says, Fascinating, but does not look up at all. Snape then tells Lupin, you should drink all the goblet directly. I made a whole cauldron full if you need more. And then leaves. Harry is immediately suspicious. He's like, I don't know what kind of poison you just dropped off at my good sis Lupin's house. But Lupin should not be drinking this. His immediate thought was, I need to spill this potion. I need to spill this cauldron. He just felt very mistrusting of that whole exchange. And Harry says, Oh, like, why do you have to drink that? And Lupin says, Well, I've just been feeling off color. And I am super grateful to have a colleague like Severus Snape because this is a very complex potion and he's like willing to make this for me. And Harry's like, I bet he is, you know. Have you ever seen that video of Vladimir Putin and I forgot the dictator of North Korea's name?

SPEAKER_04 38:23

Kim Jong-un. Or is that?

SPEAKER_02 38:25

They have like some meeting and they're both like about to drink something, and they just immediately put it down. And I don't know if it's AI, but they're like, fuck no, we're not getting we're not going down right now.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

That is crazy. Oh, the paranoia is a real when you're a dictator. But I'm not mad at it. That that is hilarious. I haven't seen that though.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

If all your people have to live in fear, you deserve to live in fear too. No, literally. That's just how it goes. As Harry leaves Lupin's office, he says, Professor Snape is really into the defense against the dark arts. Some people even think he'll do anything to get that job. I think that was very wrong of him. It was very wrong. Like, I'll leave you with this, hon.

SPEAKER_04 39:09

Oh, he said he said that to Lupin, right? He said it directly to Lupin. And he said that to Lupin on the way out. He said, just think on that as you drink this little beverage that the first thing that you're taking it from, he might kill you just to get your job. Which is a crazy thing to say about another hog.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

It is. And then Lupin's like, all right, we'll take care. And he keeps drinking the drinking the drink.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

Yeah. Like, oh kids. He's silly kids. Like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Silly rabbit tricks it for kids. It's now evening, and Ron and Hermione have returned from Hogs Meet as well as the other third-year students. They are showing Harry all the treats that they brought back for him, and these two have had a time. Whatever drama they had at the earlier part of this chapter, it is dead and gone. I don't know if this was a date. I don't know what happened at the Hogs Mead.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

But that's such a good point that they weren't on speaking terms before they left, and now they come back, they're having a chat.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Where didn't they go? They went to Derbit and Banshees, the wizarding shop, they grabbed themselves some butterbeard. Cheers to that. They went to the post office, which Hermani was a big fan of the whole operation. And let's just say that this duo spun the block at Hogsmeade. They got free fudge, they saw an ogre. It was a beautiful day. They then asked Harry, and what'd you do? Fuck you. And he recounts the loop and Snape scenario. Ron is not happy to hear this at all. He's immediately, he immediately says, Is he mad? Like, why would he drink this potion? They leave to go to oh, it's also Halloween tonight, so it's the big feast in the Great Hall, and they can't miss it. They are still talking about the Lupin Snape thing, but they're on the way to get that meal, best belief. And they're saying we think he was we think Snape wanted to poison Lupin. So now we're getting accusations up on out of there. In the Great Hall, there were so many glittering pumpkins to celebrate the holiday. There's streamers that fill the room. And although Ron and Hermione were extremely full from their day at Hogsmeade, they made room with the quickness for this event. They each got second plates of food. You know when the food is so good, you just gotta keep. You just gotta keep eating. Absolutely. Harry notices that Snape's eyes kept glancing a little too often for his comfort at Lupin. So it was kind of like when Snape was at the Quidditch game, and Hermione was like, Why is Snape always looking at Harry and like muttering shit? Harry's now looking at Snape, like, I'm on your ass.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

But they were wrong about that.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

And they'll they're probably wrong about this. It's a little too early to get the villain up in here.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

I will say I love how protective they are over Lupin. It just goes to show how important good educators are because, like, this is the first like decent professor they've had for defense against the dark arts, as we saw from the start of the chapter. So they're like, we don't want anyone taking out this professor. We know this uh position is cursed. Like any professor that has had this position before has somehow gotten up out of Hogwarts, so we need Lupin to stick around, so we can't have Snape doing nothing to this man because we need to learn. So I love that.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

I love that they're looking out for their boy loop, and they're on the offense about this defense, man. I know that's right. And I love yeah, they're clocked in. You are so quick with it. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

I had uh two green teas today. Passion for green tea with Aloe and then a matcha. So to wrap up the big feast, the ghost comes seeping out the walls to do like a little number. As they're doing their one-two, nearly headless Nick reenacts his botch beheading. It's his signature move. You know, he does it every Halloween. Didn't he? His anniversary of almost of dying was on Halloween.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Yeah, last last year in Chamber Secrets, they were supposed to go to the Great Hall to eat the Halloween feast, but Nick had invited them to the death day party, so they had to go eat that horrible food and just be miserable. And then on from leaving there, that's when they saw Filch's cat petrified, and then it became the whole thing. So always around Halloween, some shit goes down, but yeah, that was the last Halloween.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Oh, yeah. So this is now his 501st anniversary. Okay, and then Harry was thinking to himself, what a great night. Harry was having such a blast that on the Walk walk back when Draco screamed, The Dementor send their love potter. That shit did not face him. He has his friends, a full belly, he had a show, he's good. When they reach the portrait of the fat lady that guards the Gryffindor Towers, they notice a student-filled traffic jam up ahead. That's weird. The portraits seem closed, and Percy the head boy immediately takes the opportunity to say, Come through, coming through, coming through. You guys already forgot the password. Oh my gosh. Like the head boy needs to come to the front. And then there was silence. Starting all the way from the front, and it spreads so eerily all the way to the back row. Percy screams, get McGonical quickly. What's going on? cried Jenny. You know, she started having the Riddler War flashbacks from last year. She's like, Did I do this?

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Oh no. Someone check on our girl.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Check on Ginny. Check on her. McGonagal, Snape, Lupin, and Dumbledore have arrived on the scene. Dumbledore says. Oh. My notes are so dumb sometimes. I said McGonagal, Snape, Lupin, and Dumbledore arrive to the scene with their silly missings. Why? Just why? Okay. The fat lady had abandoned. Oh, two chains. Okay. The fat lady had abandoned her portrait. She's gone, girl. The painting was totally slashed, and even chunks of the canvas were missing. Dumbledore says, we need to find her now. Professor McGonagall, go grab Mr. Filch and check every painting in this damn castle. Pesky Peeves chimes in and says, You will be lucky, with a grin on his face. But once Dumbledore asks him why, he quickly gets more serious. And he says that the fat lady was seen running and she was a mess and crying all up and down that fourth floor. Dumbledore asks, Who did it? And he goes, Oh yes. He got angry when she wouldn't let him in. Nasty temper that Serious Black has. Oh hell no. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 46:33

Sirius Black has penetrated the walls of Hogwarts and was banging on Harry's door trying to kill this poor boy. Thank God that he was not there. But there's so many questions now that need to be answered. How the fuck did Sirius get into the castle? Where is he now? I mean, like uh Is the fat lady okay? Is the fat lady okay?

SPEAKER_02 46:59

And I also wrote my notes it ain't over till the fat lady screams.

SPEAKER_04 47:05

No, this is so chaotic. Oh my god. Look, uh, I uh what if I don't know what if like Sirius somehow knew that Harry wasn't at Hogsmead? Maybe he was like surveying Hogsmead and he knew that he wasn't there, so then he said, Oh, this is my opportunity. I don't know. I'm trying to think of the timeline. I just what the fuck are the point of the mentors that are supposed to be guarding outside the castle Hogwarts grounds if they're not gonna be like catching Sirius? I don't he escaped from one place, so I'm sure it's not hard for him to try to get break into another. Girl, girl.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

You are a good actor because you know all the answers to everything you're saying, and you're like, what what what is happening?

SPEAKER_04 47:44

I'm theorizing. Theorizing along my friend, child, trying to get your gut brain going. I'm like theorizing, but I'm also trying not to like say things that you know. But yeah, no, I I think it's just crazy that we're ending the chapter with the fat lady's portrait slashed. Serious black is roaming the castle grounds, the August professors are scrambling, like we gotta fucking murder every in the school proximity. Like, this is giving like school shooter vibes and dark humor, dark humor. But like they gotta lock this down, they gotta lock this situation down. And of course, like Harry's life is on the line out of everyone. If I was Harry, I was like, take me to Dumbledore's office right now and keep me protected with guards at the door until you find this man because I cannot go through this again. Ugh. Uh, uh, uh the food.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

I have a keeping it coda question with you that I just thought of.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

Oh Lord, an impromptu keeping it coda. Give it to me. All right.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

Coda, your official government name is fat lady. Would you let this man in and save yourself?

SPEAKER_04 48:48

Wait, you're saying I'm the portrait of the fat lady?

SPEAKER_02 48:51

You are a fat lady.

SPEAKER_04 48:52

And serious black is trying to get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

Sirius Black comes right up to you. He does not have the password, but he gives you a weird ass vibe.

SPEAKER_04 48:58

No, I would not let him come in and hurt my griffin or babies. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Slash her.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

Go on and slash Michelle. I will lay my life down for these beautiful young magical youth.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

I'm not letting the one that she didn't even want to wake up for, you're all of a sudden gonna lay your life down.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

No, no, that is crazy work. Like, what is the point of being a portrait garter if you're gonna let anybody in and that doesn't have the password? Like, are you you wouldn't even they will ship your ass out on the next FedEx shipping flight out of Hogwarts to some sort of warehouse because what good are you if you're not gonna be guarding the damn youth? No, no, that's crazy work. But it's crazy that I don't know, Hogwarts needs to up their security system. Like, you can just have near dwellers and strangers moving around the Hogwarts castle and you there's no notification system. Obviously, there's no cameras because like I don't say this in the medieval times, but they don't use like muggle technology. So, like, but like something should notify them that, like, oh, there's someone here that shouldn't be something. I don't know. I just think that's crazy. But we'll kind of they're gonna unpack it more in the next chapter. But yeah, now, now I am a man that likes to try to keep my word. And I know we said we're gonna do two chapters, this episode, chapter eight and chapter nine, Grim Defeat, but we're already just about an hour for this episode, and I don't know how because I really felt like this chapter wasn't there. I felt like there wasn't a lot to talk about, but you know, we just be blabbing and stuff, but we somehow made it to an hour, and uh, the next chapter, Grim Defeat, is so good. Like when I tell you it is so good, because we read both in preparation to do one big episode, but it's so good. We have Snape being a bitch to Hermione, goat Ron jumps into it and gives him a few whackings. We have Harry losing his life nearly in a quiddish match the mentors or the mentoring. There's just a lot going on in the next chapter, and I want to dead, I want to make sure we have enough time fully to discuss and unpack, and we're not rushing, so it's not too long. One of these days, maybe we'll give you a super size mega three-hour episode so you guys can listen to it on a car ride or something. I don't know, like a long drive, but today's not the day. No. So, with that being said, any final thoughts on this chapter, Flights of the Fat Lady?

SPEAKER_02 51:11

We'll talk about it more next chapter, I think. But I think of Percy as having such a stressful head boy job sometimes. Because I'm like, no other generations of students had to deal with this except for like the original cast of the Chamber of Secrets. I'm like, he has gone through so much as a head boy and or as a prefect and head boy, and shout out to Percy for holding it down in his own way.

SPEAKER_04 51:39

And I think it really shows in the next chapter when Domdor really like leaves him and the other head boys and girls in responsibility, the students, and like when they come back, they're like actually like talking to him as almost like an equal. Like he's asking for an update on if they found him, and they're talking, like, you know, I'm like, okay, like head boy ain't nothing to play with. Like Percy's big dog around here, like you better put some respect on his name.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

So yeah, I like the name that too. Except for Snape was not trying to acknowledge him.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

But uh, but the Dumbledore respects him, and that's all that matters. Um, but uh I want to talk more about the next chapter, but we're gonna say because something that I talked about all the way in Sorcerer's Stone, Dumbledore applied in this in the next chapter, um, when it comes to student management. So uh we'll talk about that in the next chapter. But until then, make sure to leave us a five-star review, preferably over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us over on Instagram at Harry Sorry I'm Linked and leave us an email or send us an email at Harrystarry I'm latepodcast at gmail.com. And until next time, I'm Coda.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

And I'm Alicia. Bye.