Learn Something From This, Harry Potter! | Prisoner of Azkaban

Listen in as we discuss Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Chapter 14 Snape's Grudge.

Now we may not see it for Professor Snape 99% of the time but he did make some valid points this time around when he catches Harry "trouble finds me" Potter returning from a not needed, many times warned, bad idea Hogsmeade Visit. Even Professor Lupin was fed up with the Boy Who Lived. Also Buckbeak is going to be joining Scabbers real soon in the Animal Kingdom in the sky!  

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Harry Sorry I'm Late a Harry Potter Podcast. It's me, Coda.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

And it's me, Alicia.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

And today we're here to talk about Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, chapter 14, Snape's Grudge, and what a grudge it was. When I say this man was on a mission to catch Harry doing something he shouldn't have been doing, and Harry gave it to him. And look, we're just gonna have to unpack a lot. There's a lot to unpack here, and this episode is gonna be a little bit different in terms of how we cover this chapter. But you know, let us know what you guys think. We're you know, mix it up a little bit as we're approaching the summer, yeah, it's spring summer season. So yeah, it's gonna be yes, spring, summer joggers. So, yeah, we have a lot to cover. But before we get into all that, Alicia, how are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I'm good. I'm enjoying this beautiful weekend that we have. I went to DC this week. I went dancing the other night and I'm kind of just recovering, let's just say. But I feel really nice on this Sunday. And you?

SPEAKER_01 1:02

I'm doing well. I'm in LA currently. I'm not at Coachella. This is cut, no, no worries. This is not this is Coachella weekend one. I'm not at Coachella, but I am in LA. I thought the weather was gonna be warmer, so I packed all my beach weather, but it is a crisp 60 degrees, so I have just stayed in and I've just been watching or catching up on The Pit Season 2, which is a great medical show that's on Max. We're just talking about that before we started recording, but yeah, it's a great show, real to life. I spent a little bit of time in the hospital back in the day when I thought I was gonna be pursuing a career in medicine. So some things that I definitely feel familiar, but I was just like, I can't ever believe that I ever even thought I was gonna go down that track because now looking at watching this show, I'm like, no, thanks. From like the thing, the things that they are dealing with in terms of the patients, to the patient's behavior and entitlements and attitudes and stubbornness to just the work stress of it all. It's just like uh I can't be bothered. I can't be bothered. So I'm like, it's very interesting how God sometimes will redirect you without you even knowing it from something that you know isn't for you, even if you think it's for you at the time. So right now I feel like I'm on the path that I'm supposed to be on. And I even kind of have that reaffirmed to me because I just had to do a scene for my acting program and it went really, really, really well. Like applauses all throughout the classroom. My teacher was like so impressed, and I just felt me and my senior partner just felt so in it. Like it was like a no-notes type of situation, um, even though there's always something to give notes on. So I don't know, we just left that classroom really good. I felt like reaffirmed in my work and all that stuff. So I'm excited to continue on that journey.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

But congratulations.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Now I had to be like humble too, because people like were stopping me at the class, like, oh, like you did a really good job. I was like, oh, thank you, you're so kind. And my head I was like, yeah, no, I'm that bitch.

unknown 2:44

All right.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Do you remember that clip of Pharrell and Maggie? What's her name? Maggie Rogers. So there's this artist named Maggie Rogers, and she's a singer, but she also I think she produces her own stuff. And when she was in university, he came and like overlooked her project, and she's showing him the song. I think it's called Alaska, and he's just jamming, right? And then the song just ends, and he goes, No notes. And she's just beaming. He was like, That was phenomenal. Like, no notes. So you did that. I have chills, Coda.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

I know, I love that. I love that. But now, without further ado, let's just go ahead and just get into this chapter because we have a lot to discuss, but we got something to take care of, some housekeeping before then. So, Alicia, are you ready for chapter 14, Snape's Grudge Whiz Quiz?

SPEAKER_00 3:33

All right, let's go.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

Okay, all right, all right, okay. First question True or false, Sir Kadagan was fired from his Gryffindor common room guard duties in this chapter.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

That's true. He had to go. You left you let Sirius Black into the building. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

True. Okay. Who threatened to tell Professor McGonagall about Harry's use of the Marauders map in this chapter?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

I'm gonna assume Hermione. She's on she's on a certain trajectory right now.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Yes, not looking good for our girl. Yes, that is correct. Hermione Granger. On what floor corridor was the one-eyed witch statue that led to Hogsmead?

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

That is correct. The third floor. That is correct. Okay, I will. This will be the final question. What magical being did Professor Lupin assign his class to write an essay on, in which Neville wanted Harry's help?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Vampires. Shout out Olivia Ravigo. Well, her ex.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

That is four for four. Good job on this week's whiz quiz. And yeah, make sure to stay tuned for more trivia coming down the line on the Harry Star M Late Instagram. I'm thinking, you know, I've been promising you guys more trivia on Instagram for I don't know how long I feel so guilty because I have not made good on that promise yet. But I'm thinking, in line with the show that's coming out at the end of this year, I'll go back to the start and do Sorcerer Stone trivia to coincide with the TV show that's coming out, and then I'll continue on from there. So stay tuned for that. But there's plenty of people that do hair party trivia on Instagram. So you guys can have a good time over there. Now you outsourcing sometimes I'll be re sometimes I'll be reposting people, other people's hair party trigger. I'm like, this is good enough too.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

And y'all are gonna eat it up.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Exactly, exactly. But no one can make questions like I make questions. My questions always get people. So don't worry, mine is coming soon. Stay tuned for that.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I would like to request one day a whiz quiz trivia that's just quotes.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Oh, I would love that. Okay, okay. Now you do you up you are you up for the challenge?

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Yeah, like which character which character said this? Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

I love that. Okay, perfect. I'll start working on that now for Prisoner Basketball. Okay, love that. Okay, all right, now. Good job, Alicia. Four out of four. Love that for you. No notes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

No notes.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

No notes. That's it. No notes is my new catchphrase. Now we're gonna move on to our new segment that we got our first entry for. Help me, Hedwigina. This is the segment where people will send in questions or letters needing advice or feedback or anything that may come across their mind. And we got our first one. So we're gonna go ahead and read it now.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

All right, so this one is from an anonymous listener. Help me, Hedwigina. I'm trying to live out my McGonagold dreams by getting my PhD to be a professor, and I'm currently teaching students at a quote unquote competitive university. Hedwigina, I am losing my shit. These kids are so dumb, really dumb, for real, for real. I'm not even trying to hate on them, but how are you a senior at a highly respected university writing at get this, a fifth grade level? Genuinely who passed these kids who gave them the high school diploma. My students overwhelmingly fail their midterms, and it's not because the exams are hard. Some students do great, but the f those students are far and few between. Many students don't pay attention in lecture at all, and in our discussions, it seems like they are listening, but apparently it goes in one ear, out the other. Flitwick would lose his shit. I'm almost there myself. I don't know how to help them. I'm a great teacher, if I do say so myself, and I do care, but their level of apathy is wild. Apparently, if the trio were typically Gen Z students, Voldemort would be alive and very well because the motivation to learn or do anything has left the chat. I know that so much of this educational system has failed our kids, and not to mention that the world is on fire, but I don't know if some of these kids can read a book like Harry Potter. And it makes me sad and somewhat jaded because, like Hermani, I love learning. I'm just not an asshole about it. I want them to lean in, I want them to enjoy this class and get something out of it, at least to see. Hedwigina, can you please help me help these damn kids help themselves? Sign Professor McGonagall, lose my damn patience with these kids. And it's all one word.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

But the I don't know what's going on in the schools, is the question. I think it's the phones. It's the phones. You gotta go back to the phones.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

It's the phones, it's also the chat GBT, the AI of it all. It's like pretty proven that it causes degeneration of your thinking process. I also think that the school districts are just passing people like crazy. Like my my sister's friend is a teacher in Florida, of all places, and they they literally have to pass pretty much everyone. And so and people don't give out textbooks in the US anymore. Everyone has a tablet to like a Chromebook. And so you're not physically reading things or writing things, and that's different. And so that's why an entire generation is truly behind.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Yeah, I remember like growing up when we had physical textbooks, and in the back, there would be the sticker of everyone's that had it before you, and you got to like, oh, maybe your friend that was a year above you who would get your textbook, whatever, but just the physicality of all having to luck it from class to class or whatever, like just something about that script flipping through the pages, like all that just is I know it does something for your brain. I don't know, like I just yeah. So there's that aspect of it. But also, I want to say, first off, shout out to you for being a pursuing what a doctoral ship or becoming a university professor, like finger snaps for you for that alone, and the fact that you have time to listen to our podcast, you know. Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Our listeners are educated, they can read beyond fifth grade.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Yeah, I I love that. But aside from that, yeah, I don't this feels like I don't know how to, I don't know what advice I could give because I I do think it's the phones, I think it's the algorithms, the technology in the classrooms. I just saw uh something on Instagram that they're trying to uh uh roll back having technology in the classrooms because they've seen that it's hurting more than it's helping. So all those things combined, the fifth grade reading level is tragic, but people don't read anymore. People don't go to the library, people uh I I for me, you see, this is why I can't even do anything when it comes to kids in terms of education. Because I would like want to just focus on the kids that are really committed to learning, like the few kids that's in the first row that are paying attention, and like everyone else that's on their phones in the back. Like, I just wouldn't take the time to even try to discipline people that are on their phones or not paying attention or whatever, as long as you're not being distracting to my classroom environment. I'll just focus on people in the front that actually want to learn. Because I'm sorry, I just feel like it's a lost cause at this point. And I don't want to sound all doom and gloom, but it's just like you can't save them all. Like it, because I feel like, especially there's larger forces at work that want to make sure that our youth that are growing into becoming adults kind of are these like mindless worker robots that are just feeding into the capitalism of it all and just so I don't know. I feel like I'm not being allowed to help, but I just feel like this is a lost cause.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

I think the word that stood out for me in all of it was the word apathy. And so, like, how do you get your students to not be apathetic? You have to meet them where they are, you have to figure out what do they actually care about? And can you cater to like the students that are on the margin? So, not the students that are totally checked out, totally lost, but the students that they could be clocked in with you. Like, can you get another extra five percent of the class involved? You know, can you set up some sort of reward system? These kids are very dopamine deprived, and they're they're kind of like mice in labs that like they ring the bell all the time to get the food, and they're like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like, how do you get them to be more present? I would say this might be a little woo-woo, but instill some mindfulness. Like, hey guys, before we start this class, we're gonna do deep breathing. They're like, what the fuck? Uh-huh. And let's go and set a timer, boom, boom, boom. So at least I know physically we're in the same plane. We're here. I guess get creative, maybe play some music, throw them off a little bit. So I was like, wait, like, change up the structure of the class.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Yeah. Well, good luck, girl.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Good luck, girl.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Okay, now without further ado, let's go ahead and just jump right into Harry Potter, the Prisoner of Access Band, chapter 14, Snape Scroll. So at the end of the last chapter, we have Sir Kadagan, the portrait, letting us know that he did, in fact, let Sears Black into the Girlfriend common room because he had the passwords, of course. So following Serious Black's break-in, Hogwarts is on full lockdown mode. We have professors just now, like they're just doing extra, extra, extra security all around Hogwarts Castle. Hogwarts is on lockdown. The fat lady is back. Shout out to the fat lady. She said, I need to protect these kids, so I just need some extra security. So she's now being guarded by trolls. Love that for her. And Circadagon is officially out of a damn job. This uh, you gotta go. So he's been taken back to his uh his storage room or storage wall on the seventh floor. So shout out to that. He's gone. Okay, so now meanwhile, Ron is soaking up his 15 minutes of fame for being the one that Black almost stabbed. And when I say Ron was just loving the attention, and it's definitely noted that, like, for one set, he's not the psychic to Harry. So we'll we'll unpack that in a second. And Neville Longbottom, of course, is living a nightmare because after losing his passwords, he's been banned from Hogsmead, given detention, and he also gets a howler from his grandmother that sends him a running from the Great Hall, and it's just very, very embarrassing. So that's how we start this chapter. Alicia, what are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 14:01

They put Sir McDon, what's his name? McDuggins?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Uh Kadagan.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

Sir Kadaggin on the clearance section, then big lots in the back. And he belongs there because even when he was working every day, the students didn't like him either. He was always changing the password, so it's like you're doing too fucking much. And then you let homeboy in. Bye. I'm very surprised that the fat lady came back for her old position. I know she has security now, but damn, she has a good therapist.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

No, honestly, shout out to her because she said, look, I know, like, and she's like, she worked through her trauma of getting sliced up, defending these damn kids. And she said, No one's better at this job than me. And I take pride in taking care or protecting these kids. And look what happened when I left. So as long as I come back with new workplace protections, I'm gonna go back to doing my job. So I'm not mad at it.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

They gave her that signing bonus for season two. They're like, Yeah, let's come back. Let's come back for another season. What did you think of Ron's, you know, kind of now he's a little notorious. Now he has some fame, he has some clout.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Honestly, I'm not mad at it because it's not hard being the best friend slash sidekick to the popular kid or the person that has this notoriety that Harry does. And so far, I feel like Ron's taking it pretty well, like, you know, just being Harry's confidant and stuff like that. So I like that even though it's under these circumstances of almost being killed by a mass murderer, criminal, or whatever, I'm glad that people are taking more notice of Ron. They're asking him questions, he's getting to share his story of heroism. And like, I don't know, I just feel like it's nice for him to have his quote unquote 15 minutes. And like, yeah, he's like excited to tell everyone about it. He's telling the younger his uh his housemates, some other people from other houses. He he's even excited to tell Haggard about it. But of course, Hagrid already knows that, and that kind of takes a wind out of his still a little bit because he was excited to tell Hagrid about it as well. But I like this that Ron's able to kind of just you know have this moment, and Harry lets him have it too.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah, a lot of times Harry doesn't want the spotlight on him. Like he he has like a lot of inner monologue, like, uh, like why are they always looking at me? Or like I don't want the attention. So I'm also glad that Ron gets to kind of be someone for a little bit. And now we gotta talk about Neville.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Oh, Neville. I said when uh it had to be Neville and it had to be Professor McGonagall that was like, you know, she does not mess around, and she's already so serious about Harry's like safety and stuff like that. So the fact that Neville's like lack of responsibility and carelessness is what caused all this commotion in the first place. Like, Professor McGonagall was not playing like not only do you not gotta go to Hogsmead anymore, you also get detention, you don't have password privileges anymore, so now he has to wait for other students every night to arrive at the common room door to be let in with them. Um I mean, it's everything that McGonagall punished him with, I feel like it's reasonable.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Neville would be great working for the Trump administration. All right, because the way he just be making mistakes left and right and like be telling on himself it I could see a parallel. He would never do that, he's a good person, and then Neville's grandma got her like back to uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Augusta Longbottom. I'm we didn't get to hear what she said. We just got to hear that. Yeah, Augusta Longbottom. We just got to hear the start of it because you know the howler is not like one of those things like when you get one, you can open it in the privacy of somewhere. Like, no, the longer you wait to open it, once it's delivered, the louder it's gonna be. So as soon as it got delivered into the great hall by the owl, he had to take our running and it already started screaming at him as he ran. And I'm sure she tore into his ass. Right. He's like, I know this feeling too well from Chamber of Secrets, so yeah, he definitely got tore into because it's it's also embarrassing. Just just uh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

So because everyone already knows like you fucked up royally, and then now breakfast time, boom, you get this loud message. But are you ready for your first uh keeping it coda segment?

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Yes, let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

All right, so I think I asked you a similar question, and maybe we cut it. But what fictional character from any TV show or movie would you send a howler to? And what would you be screaming at them for?

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Okay, I love this question. I love me a good TV show or movie. Originally I was gonna do Robbie from the Pit because I just literally came off watching that before we started recording, but I also just finished Paradise Season 2 over on Hulu, and I was like, I think I want to do that instead. And this is gonna be for a group of people, community of people, and it's going to be for pretty much everyone that's living in the quote unquote paradise that Sinatra worked so hard to build, and all the commotion and ungratefulness that they've caused. And this is a little bit of spoilers, but you know, just light spoilers. But basically, like, so in paradise, the world's like coming to an end because of like climate change and all that stuff. So there's this a main character named Sinatra who finds the funding and everything she needs from the government, everything to build, it's like bunker in Colorado. That's literally like another, like a place where people can live once the world comes to the end of the world or whatever. And like most of the people that get to live there are you know, privileged people, like family of like government employ government employees and all that stuff. So it's just this luxury people. But again, people were like fighting to get there, and like it's it's a privilege to have been able to kind of survive the end of the world or whatever. But now, like in this second season, we have people that are just trying to undo all of her hard work just by not like following her leadership or her rules or whatever, just undoing things that it's just it's just it was just very frustrating to watch. Like, we have people that are like, Oh, people should have a choice on whether they want to stay here in paradise or go back out into the real world and see if they can make it out there now that things have calmed down. Like, just shit like that. Like, your motherfuckers didn't have to be here in the first place. So, like, people are just going to extreme lengths, they're like breaking the oxygen that's needed for them to survive there so that the doors can open, so people can and it just all culminates in a lot of shit that does not need to happen. And something happens with Sinatra, just like, damn, like she's kind of like an anti-hero kind of villainy in her own right, but yeah, I I this is less of a howler more just around the show. But just just can imagine me this being a holler to y'all, motherfuckers, to just do better, stop being so damn ungrateful, and just sit down and just enjoy this community that has been built for you that you get to live in now that the world has come to an end. But yeah, that's my howler.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

So she would get one.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Yes, not Sinatra, but the people that are living in the community that are ungrateful for all of her hard work.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

The whole town is getting howlers that's gonna be like$800 at the same time. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yes, yes, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah, you're gonna burn the village.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

I'm screaming. Do you have a howler for anyone?

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Trying to think, but I all of that my howlers are real people, like Tyra Banks from that documentary. I would send it to her on set and be like, think about empathy. Just think about what you did. Think about these women, think of the horrible pain that you put onto these girls. You knew damn well that they would be blacklisted from the industry because they were on this uh at that time quote unquote trashy reality show, and yet you still continued the process season after season for the views. You never cared about the girls. Uh-huh. And you knew that. And you deserve a howler for not going to your friend that had a stroke like Mrs. Mrs. J. You should have been at the hospital. But that that's like a little too real. That's the only person that I can really think of still. She's still on my mind.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Still on your mind. I love that. Well, I'm sure she's gonna be even more on your mind once this new season of the show comes out. Who knows who's gonna be watching that? But that'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

I know. I'm gonna have to watch a clip or two.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yeah, because you see, you're part of the problem, child. This is what you're talking about when she says you guys ask for. But like, I just feel like at that point, now that especially with this documentary and it being present day, like. For the contestants, like, okay, now you guys can't go on there complaining about how you're being treated because you know, like, you know what I mean? Like, back then's a different time, whatever, but now 2026, you go on that damn show. If you get mistreated, I don't know what to tell you.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

But the difference is if you go on the show now, you can still have your social media career.

unknown 22:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Back then, like the original, original seasons, that was all they were known for. They didn't really have like their own narrative or place to speak. And now you can kind of be, you can build something.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay, well, thank you for this keep nick coda segment. Okay, so now we have Hagrid's meeting with the boys. Oh, so Hagrid actually sends a letter to Harry and Ron for because he wants to meet with them to discuss some things. And it's actually funny, this is our first time seeing Hetterogina in a while because Harry's so focused on what's going on, what else is going on in the Great Hall, that Hadrugena has to like nip at him to get his attention. So shout out to Hadroogina. Nice to see you again. Um, so basically, Hagrid sent a letter saying that he'd like to meet with Ron and Harry. So they go meet Hagrid at the front of Hogwarts, and Hagrid kind of escorts them back down to his hut because obviously they can't move around on unaccompany now, now that security's been heightened at Hogwarts. So Hagrid pretty much is just giving them an update on the upcoming trial for Buckbeak. He's got his clothes all picked out, and him and Buckbeak are going to be taking a ride on the night bus to London for the trial, and we're gonna see what's gonna happen with Buckbeak there. But then also, we find out that Hermione's actually still found time to help Hagrid with his case on terms of Buckbeak, on top of everything else that she has on her plate. So shout out to Hermione because we've seen how stressed she's been with all of her school assignments and whatnot, but she still found time to keep true to her promise in terms of helping um Hagrid, which I thought was very sweet, and it kind of makes Ron and Harry feel bad because with everything else that's been going on, they've kind of like completely forgot about that. So shout out to Hermione in that regard, I guess. She hasn't had any friends for the last few chapters, so I guess she found a little bit of time to do that. Um, but that's actually the main reason why Hagrid wanted to reach out to Ron and Harry because he wanted to speak to them about Hermione on her behalf. Because basically, Hermione's been crying to Hagrid ever since being Iced off from hearing Ron. But Ron is still right for Lee Max. She's like, look, I'm willing to talk to her again once she acknowledges what she's done and makes it right in terms of like apologizing or just something. Like, but she hasn't done any of that, she doesn't think she did anything wrong, so I don't have anything to say. Like, Hagrid, I appreciate you trying to talk to me in this moment about her, but it needs to come from her. And I'm kind of with Ron on this in this moment. Like, don't go crying to other people, like, come talk to me about it.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

And say that your cat killed my pet.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Mm-hmm. Um, and Hagrid makes the point, like, he's like, Oh, like you can't be too mad at her for being for her pet doing what cats do in terms of like cats hunting mice or whatever, which I understand on one part, but no, that's not fair to me because my rat was just as precious as her cat. Like, I don't know, like, I don't like that argument from Hagrid either. Like, and I guess he's kind of like relating to Hermione because of the situation that Buckbeat's in currently, and that's kind of his pet kind of sorta. So, but uh, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

What do you think of Hermione going to Hagrid's house alone? All right, on such a consistent basis.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

I think it's completely innocent. They've been friends with Hagrid since the first book, and it's like their getaway spot. It's like going to your favorite middle school or high school teacher's classroom during lunch because you just find comfort in being in their their chill, like you can have your friendly conversation with your friends in the corner desk while they're at their computer eating their lunch, and they don't care about what you guys are talking about, even if it's R-rated, or they might like jump in and throw in a joke in there. Like, I I don't know. I feel like that's their a lunch classroom spot.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

And that's the hill you're gonna die on, and that's the hill I'm gonna die on. And I respect that.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

And what is your opinion?

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Since you my opinion is that no little girl should go to the woods in the middle of the night and visit a man in his 50s on a consistent basis alone with beasts and creatures inside the home and outside the home to deal with, and working on his law case. Honey, you're in a hunter classes. Clock out. It's giving like Chloe Kardashian. Like, you have you don't have enough bandwidth for Lamar Odom right now. Like, you need to stay stay in the hog war. Oh, my real howler, my holler goes to Lamar Odom. Fuck you and your father. My bad. I've had a glass of wine before recording, guys.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

And you meant that shit, no. You said it with your chest. I appreciate that. Um, okay, okay. All right, let's go on. But speaking of Hermione, so Hermione, so the boys go back up to the castle and Hermione lets Harry know. Oh, so once they get back to the castle, Harry and Ron, um, they see that there's a bulletin of another Hogsmead visit, so obviously they start plotting. But Hermione's nearby and she lets Harry know that if he even thinks about going to Hogsmead, she'll snitch and tell Professor McGonagall about the Marauders map. Ron is ignoring her. Like, did you hear something like child, what are you gonna do when we get to Hogsmead? Harry and Ron disregard her completely. Harry decides that this time he's gonna bring the invisibility cloak this time. And hijinks and Sue from there. What do you think about this whole Hermione like threatening snitching if he decides to go? Because again, he's doing it out of she's doing it out of care and protection of Harry, but Hermione, like it's first a fireball, then scabbers, now this. Like you are not. I feel like she cares more about Harry's safety than being a good friend. I don't know if those two things can be uh aligned in this moment.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

She's being very dedicated to being disliked by them.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

She is not changing the path.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

It's like but you're right. I think her for her, like the safety comes first. She's almost like approaching it as like a mom with a very tough love. I will be listened to in some fashion, and I'm gonna snitch on you. And she's really lonely because Aggrid has said, like, you know, she's she cares a lot about you guys. Like, she was really upset when she heard that Ron was attacked by serious plug, and like she was very concerned, like she cares. I think they both know that she cares about them, but they're not feeling the love.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

When she does things that make her almost like untrustworthy of being let in on the secrets.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah, she's so responsible, mature, and adult-like, and Harry and Ron just want to be boys and kids and just get up to usual like teenage mischief, and like she's just like preventing that at every turn. So it's like who wants to be friends with like someone like that? So I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, but yeah, like I said, so Harry and Ron disregard her. So Hoxmead weekend comes, Ron goes off on his own when quick nudge nudge, and Harry's like, okay, I'll go back to the common room, see you when you get back. But he's really planning on taking the Marauders map and the visibility cloak and going to that one eyed witch statue on the third floor to go over to Hoxmead. So he's on his way there when unfortunately Neville catches him because Neville is now, of course, as you know, no longer allowed to go to Hogsmead. She's like, Oh, Harry, I forgot that you weren't allowed to go to Hogsmead either. Like, what are you up to? Do you want to play some exploding snap? And Harry's like, no. Here's like, oh, I actually about to go to the library to do this vampire essay that Professor Lupin assigned us. He's like, Oh, I actually need help with that. So I'm gonna come with you. And then, like, at this point, Harry's like, oh my gosh, leave me the fuck alone. Like, I'm not trying to do that right now. So they're making their way. Their box like leaves a one-eyed with statue, but then of course that's when Professor Snapes, annoying ass, comes lurking, and he's like, What are you guys doing here? Which I found kind of weird because like just because they're not allowed to go to hospital, that means they can't even like run the damn castle, like they have to be in the griffin or com room, like just like locked in it. Like, I found that weird. Like, if I was hair up, like I can't walk around, like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Um, but Snape is the definition of like a monitoring speaker, yeah. Just like annoyance, they're always in your business, like, huh? I'm existing. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 29:57

So so Snape kind of shoes him away. But thankfully at that point, Harry had kind of like put his stuff that he was gonna take the hogs meet inside the one-eyed with statue, so he didn't have that stuff with him. But Snape kind of shoes him away, and Snape is like inspecting the one-eyed with statue, which kind of like made Harry like sweat a little bit because he's like, Oh shit. But thankfully, Snape didn't find anything at that moment. So Harry and Neville are on their way back to the Griffith common room, but Harry lies and says that he actually left his vampire essay back in the library, so he's gonna go get that. So he loses Neville that way, and he goes back to the one-eyed with statue, enters the statue, and makes his way to Hogsmead with his stuff. So he's in the clear. So he finally gets to Hogsmead and he catches up with Ron. I found it actually um very interesting that like, so Harry's this time is under the invisibility click the whole time. So technically, Ron's by himself, but like Ron is like with Harry, so he's like whispering things to Harry, and Ron is like passing him money, or Harry's passing Ron money to pay for stuff, and like Ron's just standing in place so he can look around. It's just a very interesting dynamic to see them like being together in this moment.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

But after they're yeah, they go to really crowded shows. So, like logistically, how is he he's trying to avoid Harry's trying to avoid bumping into people because obviously they can't see him, it's crowded. So I don't think they really planned out how this works. Like it's a busy town. You can't, it's not just the middle of the night and you're invisible like you were in the schools.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Yeah, yeah. Because last time Harry came, and we'll see that play out. Last time Harry came, he took off. He didn't have his invisibility cloak, so he was just out and about. But I think because of the extra security, he really can't be seen here this time, hence why he has a cloak. So it's just a little bit more tough than maneuver. But yeah, so him and Ron make their way outside and they go to look at the shrieking shack from a distance, but so does Malfoy and his goons. Now, of course, technically it's a 3v1 situation because Ron's by himself, so of course, Malfoy and Goons take it upon themselves to kind of like taunt Ron. You know, Ron's ready to throw hands at any moment's notice when it comes to Draco, so they're about to go at it, but then thankfully Harry steps in.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

And the Shrieking Shack is a like a haunted house in Hogsville.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Yes, it's notoriously one of the most haunted buildings in all of London because people have reported hearing yells and screams coming at coming from me in the middle of the night and stuff like that. So no one goes near it, but right now they're at it, they're near it from a distance, if that makes sense. So, yeah, so Ron is outnumbered, but Harry takes it upon himself to like kind of clown uh fool around lights under his invisibility cloak. So he starts throwing mud at Draco and Crab and Goyle, and obviously they can't see where it's coming from. So they start scuffling, it's the whole thing. Ron is like laughing hysterically, but at one point, someone steps on Harry's invisibility cloak and it pulls it off of him just enough to reveal his head. So it's like now Harry's floating head is just there in the middle of the snowy field, and of course, Draco has to be the one to catch sight of it, and he doesn't even wait to like confirm what he what he just saw, and he just takes off running back to Hogwarts Castle. So at this moment, Harry and Run like oh shit. Like, if he gets back to the castle before you do and is able to tell someone, you are screwed. So Harry says, say less. He grabs all his shit and he bolts. So he goes back to Honey Duke's down the cellar into the passageway, and he just starts sprinting all the way back to the castle. And this is not a short journey, but somehow he makes it there and he decides to leave the visibility cloak inside the one-eyed witch statue and just leaves that there because if someone finds that, then he's really done for it. That's all the evidence he knows they need to get him in trouble. But he takes his bag of stuff that he got from um Hogsmead with him, and as soon as he steps out of the one-eyed witch statue, Alicia, who is there to catch him in the act? Professor Snipe. I said, My god, do you not have anything else to do? Like, no assignment, no assignments to grade, no significant other to call, like nothing, just putting it in the case.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Definitely not that last one, definitely not that last one.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

So I said, shit. I said, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Reading that was fun.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

I was like, oh so now this whole confrontation. So basically, Snape takes him all the way down to his office slash classroom and just unloads. I feel like what's been building up in Snape for a while in terms of just penta presentment against not only Harry, but Harry's father, as we come to learn. Snape is calling James Potter everything but a shot of God. He's calling him arrogant, a mediocre quiddish player. He even calls him a shutter, or he says that he's shredded around Hogwarts Castle with his friends and admirers. And I love that Harry's clapback in this moment as my father did not strut, and neither do I. And at one point, Harry loses his cool completely and just tells Snape to shut up and reminds him that you should be so lucky because my father actually saved your life. And Snape counters him with, Oh, is that what you think happened, sweetie? Is that really what you think happened, sweetie? You're delusional, Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Luther Van Dross.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Luther Van Dross. Because Snape was actually, I don't know what Dumbledore told you about that whole situation, but James only saved my life because it was to save his own skin after him and his friends played a prank on me that could have ended up getting me killed. So he only saved me in order to kind of like reverse what he had already thought about doing when it came to me, whatever. So he just views uh his father, James, as a coward, not as a hero, and thinks Harry's just right in line with him when it comes to that.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

And Harry does not play about his dead dad, as we saw at Aunt Marge's dinner.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Where he was talking to her all types of crazy, and then for him to say, shut up to snip. I was gagged, I was goofed, I said, oh like out of all the professors, that'd probably be the last one to get away with like you could get away with saying that too, and for you to not even care. Oh I don't know, Harry. That that was very intense, very intense. Yeah, but now we know more of Snape's lore, I guess, and and Harry's dad's lore. Because it's very obvious that Snape did not like James Potter.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Yeah, yeah. No, where this is like the first time we're really getting that. And I guess, do you think that's why Snape treats Harry the way he does?

SPEAKER_00 36:05

I feel like that's like 10% why. There must be like a bigger why.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Yeah. I will say it's very weirdo behavior. Like, why would you decide to go into teaching at a school when you not only hate kids, but you can't even put your biases aside of student whose father used to know and you're treating him all kinds of ways because of it. I don't know. It's just very like, Snape, be a fucking like leave whatever issues you had with your childhood nemesis aside and just teach and not be weird about it. Needless to say, I I I didn't say this, but obviously Draco got back to Snape and told him that what he saw. So that's why Snape knew to kind of go back to that statue and put all the pieces together. So that's kind of why if they're in the situation they're in right now. But yeah, so when Harry told Snape to shut up, and Snape was like, You want to repeat that? Like, what did you just say to me? And then I think Harry said it again. He said, Shut up about my dad. And then, like I said, he goes on to say everything about Harry, Harry's dad, James saving his life. And I think that Dumbledore told him about that in the first book, because I think when Harry woke up from being unconscious with the whole socialistone of it all, Dumbledore had mentioned something about James and Slame's history. So I think that's what Harry's pulling on in this pulling from in this moment. But yes.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

Dumbledore does drop some lore every once in a while. Like he does reveal some secrets and they come back around. The things that he says are just kind of way off in the future.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious to know. Do you what I'm curious to know what kind of prank could James have pulled on Snape that could have led to his death? Because that doesn't sound like a prank. That just sounds like attempted murder. And Snape says it so casually, like, oh yeah, your father played a prank or was going to play a prank on me that could have led to my death.

SPEAKER_00 37:50

So maybe like I don't know. I my mind goes to like this well, we probably can't say these words, but the school pew pew of Degrassi and how they were playing all these pranks on him, and he got so upset, and then he got you know, he ended up having Drake be in a wheelchair for the rest of the season. But they like poured this paint on him and like feathers, and they just like humiliated him. So something kind of extreme, but I'm not sure the specifics of what what would that mean if he almost had oh, maybe something with a forbidden forest, like maybe they left him out there with like a monster or something, and like knew that he was alone.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see how that un unravels, but yeah. So Snape forces Harry to empty out his pockets and he finds all of his Hogsmead belongings that he bought while he was there with Ron. And he kind of just reasons that away and says that oh, Ron bought that for him on the last time that he went to Hogsmeade, and Snape's like, Well, you've been carrying that or you've been carrying all this with you this whole entire time. But okay, whatever. But then he also finds a Marauders map. He doesn't know it's a Marauders map because it's not like been unreal, like you know, it's just it's just a blank piece of parchment without saying the magical words. So when he tries to force it to reveal itself, he's saying, like, oh, open revelio, like I'm the professor, whatever, just open and it's not opening, none of that's working. The but the map does what it does best, and it basically roasts him. Each of the people that created the map, Mooney, Warmito, Patfoot, and Prongs, they all just say the most vile things to Professor Snape. They call his, they tell him to get his big fat crooked nose out of other people's business and like stop being annoying, and just yeah, just a whole bunch of insults. But at this moment, Snape was like, hmm, okay. So then he summons Lupin via Fireplace, and Lupin comes and he asks Lupin to identify what this dark object is, as he puts it. And Lupin plays it cool, he just claims that it's probably just a some type of thing from the joke shop, because obviously he's like throwing insults at whoever tries to read it or whatever, and then kind of like covering for Harry in this moment, but then once they're alone later, okay, I'm skipping ahead. But yeah, so he's just saying, like, it's uh basically just a joke artifact or whatever, probably got it from the joke shop, whatever. It's actually funny in this moment, too, because then here comes Ron Weasley's ass. Ron comes bursting into the room and is like, Oh, I got those things for Harry, the all the things from Holly Smy that Harry has, I got from him for him, whatever. And then they all just look at him, and then he's like, Okay, I'm gonna excuse myself. I just need to say that clerk. I love how instinct that they are, that they just knew how to cover and lie for each other properly. Like, I love that type of friendship from them.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

And I don't think Hermani would have known to have done that.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Girl, she would have been stuttering and stammering and just gave it away, child.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Or she would have been waiting with Professor Snape at the entrance and be like, We're waiting for you to return.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so now that Ron's there and he basically says that whole outburst about getting all the stuff for Harry from Hogsmeade, Lupin's like, well, I guess that explains it. It's all just, you know, stuff from Hogs Mead, probably from the joke shop. So that's it. That's all. So he grabs Harry and Ron, he takes the map from Snape and they all just leave the room together. What did you think about all that? Like that whole interaction, Snape trying to reveal the map and it insulting Snape. And then at one point, even Snape is like, Oh, maybe like Harry got it directly from the people that own this map. And then Lupin's like, Well, Harry, do you know these people? Like any of the names on the thing? And then Harry's like, Nope. So all that was just very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Lupin definitely went above and beyond to cover Harry's ass. Because Lupin, in either the last chapter or two chapters ago, had brought Harry butterbeer, and and Harry's like, Oh yeah, I've had this before. And Lupin said, Where would you have had this before? Like, obviously, it's hugs me, but they didn't say anything, like, but it was understood. So I think Lupin was like, Alright, I'm gonna cover this one time for you. And he even says that later, but it's a one time and only thing. But Lupin has been very, very good to Harry throughout this entire book. Since the minute that they met, he's been good to him. And this is one of those moments where I think Snape expected the other teacher to really back him up and he didn't at all. And I don't know, Snape seems to hold grudges. Snape has uh made this potion for Lupin to recover more than once. It's very hard to acquire and and put together. And maybe Snape will feel some type of way for Lupin not standing up a little bit for him in this moment.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Yeah, yeah. I I appreciate Lupin's protection slash cover for Harry, especially when it comes to this, but just overall, like you said from the beginning of the book, like he's just been a really good friend to Harry, so I appreciate that. And we'll see how his how he dealt with the situation with Snape comes to manifest in the future chapters. But yeah, so like once they go out to the hallway, Harry just starts to try to explain himself to Lupin, but Lupin doesn't want to hear it. So for as much as they're cool, Lupin in this moment is not happy with like how this all went down, and he actually knows that it was a Marauders map and he knows that it was confiscated by Metro Mr. Filch a long time ago. He doesn't know how Harry ended up with it, and he doesn't even want to know. Um, but he is surprised that Harry didn't turn it in due to like what's been going on with Sears Black and all the stuff that's been going on at the school, and especially like imagine if this map got into Sirius Black's hands, then shit could have really gone sideways. So he's just very annoyed with Harry. And he kind of and he doesn't give the map back to Harry, so he takes it. So now Harry doesn't have the Marauders map anymore, which Harry wouldn't like expect him to give it back, so he doesn't even try to protest that. But Harry asks about the creators of the map, and he says, Why would Snape think that he got it from them? And Lupin says, because they would have wanted to lure you out of the school. I don't I didn't really understand what they meant by that, but I thought that was interesting. I know that the authors of the people that created the map, they say the whole mischief manage thing. So they they're known to be like mischief makers, so I don't know why he's trying to say that specifically. They'd want to lure Harry out of the school, but I thought that was interesting. But Harry asked if he knew them, and Lupin says that they've met. So Lupin knows the people that made this map, so that's interesting, but he doesn't, he says nothing else after that. So Lupin is stirring the fact that he won't cover for Harry again, like you said, and when All that's going on serious black and the Dementors, his parents and his parents sacrifice, he should take things more seriously and walks away, leaving Harry feeling like shit. Like, now you're bringing my dead parents into this. Like, yes, I know my parents sacrificed myself for me, but damn, I'm still a kid. Like, kids fuck up sometimes, tell me. Um, but so him and Lupin are probably on the outs a little bit. But Harry doesn't even think about going back to get to the one out of which statue to get his invisibility cloak. And Ron admits some fault in encouraging Harry on this Hawksmith excursion. So I'm glad that Ron is able to see, like, yeah, damn, we fucked up big time with this whole thing. This is just this is just bad. Like, we your invisibility cloak is gone. Now we've lost the Marauders map. Like getting a few things from the joke shop was not worth all this chaos and drama. But as they finally reach the grip in your common room, Hermione's walking towards them. And before she can get a word out, Ron says, Come to have a good glow. Or did you just get back from telling on us? Uh like Ron, not too much. Like I know she said she was going to, but I don't think she would really go to those lengths. But like, Ron, just hear her out. And Hermione answers no. And she's holding a letter in her hand, and as she's crying, and she's the letter says that Haggard lost his case and Buckbeak is going to be executed. What the hell are we gonna do now?

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Another creature off the planet. Scabbers gone, Buckbeak about to be gone. Okay, prediction.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Oh okay, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Tiger's a little not all the way there sometimes, and he goes to bat for his magical creatures. What if he like runs away with Bugbeak?

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Oh, I could see that, but then uh uh I feel like that would be a lot because then he would lose his home, his pro his professorship, like you know, thin thin ice with the whole Draco arm thing.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

I don't think he would do that to Dumbledore, he would do that to Dumbledore either because Dumbledore is the one that kind of like vouched for him in terms of becoming a professor and kind of giving him a position at the school after he got expelled. When he I don't know, I thought he cares for buckbeak a lot, but I don't know if he'll do all that. But that we'll we'll see what happens when it comes to Buckbeak. Like, not Buckbeak about to get turned into chicken stew, honey. We hate to see it.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

We hate to see it. My magical creatures, my dog is barking in the back. In the last episode, we were also talking about the magical creatures, he started barking. What is going on? I I think it's important to note that Harry, after speaking to Lupin, it kind of felt like when a father's like, I'm just really disappointed in you. Like I was rooting for you and disappointed in you. But Snape brought up a good point. He said, This entire school has gone above and beyond to make sure that you are safe. We have above like we have upped the security levels, we have dementors here, all for you to fucking escape and go to Hogsme. Like you're ungrateful. And I I think Snape earned some points in this from my view, because I thought that was a really good point. What did you think when he said that?

SPEAKER_01 46:58

No, he definitely brought up a good point. And I am I I remember if you can call back to when Harry said, I don't go looking for trouble, trouble finds me. Well, in this case, Harry, I don't think that's really the truth. And as you see, it didn't work out in your favor. So, you know, it's the up with the chapter is titled Snape's Grudge, but it it needs to be titled Snape Maybe Onto Something when it comes to Harry and his hijinks. So yeah, because things could have just gone from worse to worse.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

So we'll see. Also, like I think this is a good learning lesson, and these are the lessons that you learn as a young kid. Sometimes the universe sends you signs that you're not supposed to do something, and if you keep ignoring it, it catches up to you. So immediately Hermione was like, I'm gonna tell on you, don't do it. That was just a verb, verbal thing. Second thing is that Neville is continuously trying to hang out with you and like kind of almost stopped your original plan. Then, third thing, now you have Snape who's literally inspecting the one-eyed witch because he has like a vibe, like something's off, and you still go. Then you're in the hogs meet. It's not enough for you to just enjoy yourself. You had to fuck with Draco. And you didn't listen to Cardi B when she said no face, no case, because you left that shit hang off. And then he saw you. As you get older, you'll start to realize that these are warnings, and then you're gonna change the direction of what you think is best for you. It's like, oh, actually, something else is trying to say. This is not okay, and I need to do something else. And I hope Harry learns the lesson sooner than later because especially when it comes to Harry, a lot of his actions have very dangerous consequences. Like you came in into this world pretty much being hunted, you're still being hunted, and you're acting like it's your right to go on spring break. If you don't stay indoors one spring break, like why the fuck did he think it was okay to even go to Hogs Mean? Like, why did he even? He already went the first time.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

Because you didn't see one side of the street, now you gotta return.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

Like you got to experience it once, and you barely even made it out alive, quote unquote, that time because Professor McGonagall and all of them came down and you almost got caught that time. So that's enough should have been like, okay, you know what? Let me cool it. But then you decide to go again after Series Bike just broke into the Griffin Your common room and like they've heightened security after school. Like, so okay, I was a little hard on her money at the beginning, but now that uh you're talking through it, I'm seeing more more, I'm seeing her side more and more like Harry, sit your ass down. Like, and Ron is the go-ahead to like Ron is like the Ron is like the demon, I guess her money's the angel, like uh trying to get her to do the right thing or the responsible thing in this moment. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

I know it's hard. Like they they both deserve to be in Harry's life because they bring different things to the table, and Harry, I mean Harry is lucky to have Ron because Ron will always have his back in like a very like vocal and like fierce way, whereas Hermione will have his back for him in the future. Like she looks she can look past just what we got going on today. She wants you to survive next month, next year. She wants you to graduate with her and and be safe in the process. And Ron just kind of thinks of like today.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah. I guess being the boy who lived and being Harry Potter comes with this restriction sometimes. And I don't know. Right now, it's you just seems like a lot of cons for him, like not being able to go to Hogsmead, having to live with the shitty Dursleys, not having your parents, obviously. Like all those things, like yeah, yeah, like none of those things are are making it great to be Harry Potter, the boy who lived. But on the flip side, I'm trying to think of what pros he has. Like his parents left him uh money, but his parents are dead. So, you know, it's like a and then like I no, no, I don't know. I feel like for him right now, he's just like, damn, like I just want to be like everyone else, and everyone's getting to go to hox me. And shit, I want to go too. And that kind of like outweighed his good decision making in this moment, and it caught up to him. So we'll see. So yeah, we'll see how when he gets his invisibility invisibility cloak back, and the Marauders map is not gone. So he had that for a little bit. I wonder what Fred and George are gonna think about that. Like, you dumb, you dummy, like we left us in your care, and now you got it caught up again. Like, what the hell are we gonna do now? So and I'm surprised he didn't even check the Marauders map. I think he was in such a panic to just get back to Hogwarts, but he didn't check the map before he came back, you know, before he came back through the statue into Hogwarts. But I feel like even if he took that time to have done that, then Snape really would have seen him coming out of the statue. So, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

And didn't Fred and George tell them, like, hey, this is how you clear the map at the end, and he didn't, I don't think he did the clearing of the map.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

Oh, he cleared it, yeah. That's why Snape couldn't see anything. Yeah, yeah. So that's good. Yeah, no, he he he he had cleared it, so that's why when Snape was trying to get it to reveal like its secrets or whatever, it wouldn't. It just hurled those insults at him because unless you say I solemnly swear I'm up to no good, it won't show the map itself. So you have to say that specifically. Obviously, Snape doesn't know that. So when Snape was trying to get into it, it was just saying all that other stuff, but yeah, so that's good at least.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

But yeah, we'll see what other consequences come Harry's way. We'll see if how Hermione is able to get their trust back. Poor Hagrid, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Fuck Draco, as always, you snitch as hell.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

And his dad.

SPEAKER_01 52:35

Oh my god, like yes, and his dad, like being petty as fight just because your son fucked up in class and got injured. Now you want to go get a poor innocent creature killed. Like, how does petty can you be? Just shameful, just shameful. I feel like And I like how Neville, yeah. Go ahead. I was just gonna say Neville, like, he's not allowed to go to Hogsme. Not that he has the tools and like Harry's cloak or map to sneak out to Hogsme, but he's on punishment, he's not allowed to go to Hogsme. He says, Shit, I'm not going. I'm gonna go to the library and do my essay.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Like, he's not gonna question it. He knows, he knows what he did, he knows what he did. Yeah, I feel like if Draco as a kid fell into Harambe's like cage, all right, his dad would have killed Harambe so quick. Public execution, it would have been like live stream. That man is evil. Alright, let us know if you like this style, guys, because it is like a little new on what we're doing.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

Yeah, it's a neat little new. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

I didn't like it either. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

I like our notes. I like like taking turns and yeah, yeah, it's just the reason why we did this, y'all, is because last episode was like so long. It was good, it was two books.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

Okay, clearly we gotta discuss it. But let us know. Your your input matters a lot to us as a listener, and your support is incredible and we love you. But we're gonna be trying different things. Some things stick and some things don't.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

Absolutely, and we're gonna be here for the ride no matter what, as long as you guys keep coming back and listening every week. So, of course, go ahead and leave us a review, preferably after this kooky episode of on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Send us an email at Harry Star I'm Late Podcast at Gmail.com and follow us over on Instagram at Harry Starry I'm late. But until next time, it's me, Coda.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

And it's me and Lisa.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Bye. Bye.