Lupin's Long Ass Tale | Prisoner of Azkaban

We're Back to Discuss Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Chapter 18 Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot & Prongs!

We're getting all the backstory this chapter on The Marauders & Anamagi, The Womping Willow, Lupin’s Werewolf Affliction and more, thanks to Professor Lupin and much to Sirius Black's annoyance! We still haven’t figured out if Scabbers is a man by the name of Petahhh! 

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Harry, Sorry I’m Late follows two childhood friends reading, discussing & diving deep into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter for the first time. 

Alicia is entering the wizarding world for the first time, having never read the books or watching the movies, being raised with a strict religious upbringing. A brand new experience and one she is excited to embark upon. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:03

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Harry. Sorry I'm late, a Harry Potter podcast. It's me, Coda.

SPEAKER_04 0:09

And it's me, Alicia.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

And today we are here to talk about Harry Potter and their prisoner of basketband, chapter 18, Mooney, Wormtail, Patfoot, and Pongs. And what a chapter this was. This felt like a continuation of the last chapter. We're still in the streaking shack. Shit is still being revealed. Shit is still being explored and things are going down. We have Mass Murderer, allegedly, Sears Black, ready to get his revenge on Scabbers slash Peter Pettigrew, allegedly. Um, Lupin is here to hopefully help clear things up as well. The trio is also bloodied and bruised, but things are just going on, and I'm sad to get on into it with you guys shortly. I feel like the last chapter it was titled Cat, Rat, and Dog, and now we have this moony, worn to Patfoot and Pong. So just a lot of animal symbolism, naming things going on in this chapter and the chapter before. We'll get into that shortly. But before we do, Alicia, how are you?

SPEAKER_07 1:00

I'm doing great. I had a shift today at the massage parlor. The massage parlor. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

The massage parlors.

SPEAKER_07 1:09

They're gonna shut me down.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

This bar.

SPEAKER_07 1:11

My boyfriend's listening to this, like, I'm sorry, you work where? No, no, at this bar. I had my first like cancellations. So I was supposed to have an at 10 a.m. appointment. I get there 1017. They're like, oh, we called, like the front desk is like, oh, we called her. And apparently she did leave a voicemail at 7 in the morning saying she had a medical emergency. So I was like, okay, like I could have come in at 11, but that's fine. I'd have an 11 appointment. I have my one-hour lunch. I have another appointment. And then they're like, You're not booked after that. So I just had two people. And then they come back and they're like, We booked you. And I was like, perfect, let me clean the room. Like, I got us. Oh, she had to leave her daughter called an emergency. I was like, damn. Because you don't get paid hourly, you get paid by, you know.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

That was gonna be my next question. I didn't want to get into your business, but I was like, is this an hourly job or by appointment? Like living off of tips and commission? Like, what's going on, honey?

SPEAKER_07 2:11

But people keep hitting me up to have massage at like at my house. So I have hella clients this week. So mama's making money. Regardless. Maybe I just needed to see it.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Yeah. Right. This isn't like a non-compete situation. Like you can't take their clients and book them separately. Or I mean, they haven't said it outright. Like, or you're talking about like separate, like other people.

SPEAKER_07 2:34

The people that I massage are like friends or friends of friends. I do not want to take any clients from this spot. Like I want to keep that very separate. And yes, they have a non-compete. So if they ask me, do you do outside massage? I'm gonna say no.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Right, right, okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:51

And that is my recorded answer. Okay. Thank you. No, also I'm good. Like people are nice, but I'm good. I I want to massage like my friends, my family have like a little kiki while we hang out, and it's just very different when I'm in a spa setting. Yeah. How have you been? How's your weekend going?

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Yeah, I'm doing well. Right now I'm in Rome, Italy.

SPEAKER_07 3:14

What?

SPEAKER_06 3:15

So I okay, Lizzie McGuire.

unknown 3:19

The fuck?

SPEAKER_02 3:22

That was uh reaction that I wanted. That's why I didn't say anything. I was trying to hold it, hold on it.

SPEAKER_08 3:27

You've been a sneaky for like 10 years. I can't with you.

SPEAKER_07 3:31

He was always the sneakiest coworker. Like he would come back with these weekend plans.

SPEAKER_06 3:35

And we're like, when the fuck did you do that?

SPEAKER_02 3:40

I am weak. I was I purposely like held out. I was like, I want to get this recording started so I could just get it out there.

SPEAKER_07 3:47

Um that was a live reaction from Lisa. Such a beautiful night.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

I don't know what you said, but I can almost kiss the stars for shining so bright. When I see you smiling, I go sing to me, Polo.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

Oh my god, amazing. So when did you get in?

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Shout out to Lizzie. Yeah, so this is a quick weekend trip. So I got in literally, I left Saturday evening. I got in Sunday morning. So I and then yeah, I was here all Sunday, and then I'm leaving Monday morning. So it's a very quick trip. So I didn't really do too much. It was so last minute. I didn't really have time to plan and like, you know, plan for things to do, places to eat and stuff like that. So I got a quick dinner nearby and I went to the Roman Coliseum. So that was nice. But I went at night, so it was the inside wasn't open like for tours and stuff like that, just the outside, which is like the free, you can just go walk up and look at it. So I just did that. So just looked at it from the outside. And then I also wanted to go to the Trevi Fountain, I believe that's the name of it. Very popular fountain. Yeah. Is that the one Lizzie McGuire put her coin into or something? Oh, okay, okay, yeah. So, you know, and it's Sunday night. So I got there, I like so I went from the Roman Coliseum straight, I took the bus straight to the Trevi Fountain. And I'm thinking, okay, Sunday night, 11 p.m. It shouldn't be a lot of people, maybe everyone's inside. Girl, I turned, I could smell the fresh water and I could hear the water fountain. And as soon as I turned the counter or the corner, it's just failed. I said, Oh my god. Like it was just like so overwhelming. Not overwhelming, like, but it was a lot of people. Like, I wasn't expecting that. I'm like, damn, I don't even feel comfortable to like try to take a picture or a selfie or anything, it's just too much going on. So I was like, Yeah, so I just did a quick U-turn and walked my butt right back to my hotel. I said, I'm good on that.

SPEAKER_05 5:36

I would have checked it off the list and kept moving.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Yeah. I saw a piece of the marble statue and a little heard the water, but I just yeah, I was like, mm-mm. Maybe in the morning before my flight back to New York, I might try to go. I don't know if 6 a.m. will be any better because the sun's rising at like 5 30. So maybe if I go at 6 a.m. there won't be anyone off there because it's like a 20-minute walk from where I am.

SPEAKER_07 5:58

I was gonna say people go five, six in the morning so they can do their photo shoots. So it's probably gonna be crowded, but good enough for you to take your own pictures and see. Yeah, I went to Rome twice and both times the Trevi Fountain was closed. And every time I see videos of it, I'm like, I am so good that I didn't go with all this crowd. I hate crowds, so at least you got to hear it and see it, kinda.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Yeah, yeah. This is like this is an express roam trip. While maybe come back in the future for a real authentic roam trip, but yeah, no, it's nice. So I'm six hours ahead of you right now, so it's 1.15 in the morning for me. I think it's yeah, so seven o'clock for me. So look, look, y'all can't ever say a bitches ain't dedicated. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, so no, but I'm okay. I'm excited to talk about this chapter. And it's kind of cool because we recorded one episode when I was in Amsterdam for my birthday. We almost recorded one in South Korea when I was visiting there, and now you guys are getting an episode from me in Rome. So who knows?

SPEAKER_07 7:03

Maybe um You went to three countries in this season with the third book?

SPEAKER_03 7:08

I did.

SPEAKER_07 7:08

Or was the Amsterdam trip? Because that was for your birthday, so that must have been.

SPEAKER_03 7:13

Amsterdam was last month or last year in October. I think that might have been changed.

SPEAKER_07 7:17

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so two technically, even though I didn't record in South Korea. And uh, you said you're going to Portugal in June.

SPEAKER_07 7:24

Yeah, I'm leaving Juneteenth to Portugal with my best friends.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Okay, you gonna take the mic with you? You're gonna record an episode for us?

SPEAKER_07 7:32

I gotta take this bulky computer. I don't know. I hope he I hope he brings his computer and I can just at least have boundaries.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

I want to be on vacation, child. Y'all go see me when I come back.

SPEAKER_07 7:42

Yeah, that's the difference between Virgo and Pisces, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. But yeah, so that's what I'm up to. But besides that, everything is good, life is good, summer is summering, or summer's approaching, it's getting hotter. So, yeah. So, yeah, but okay, so that's what's going on. Let us go ahead and read our latest five-star review given to us over on Apple Podcast. We really appreciate when you guys send in these ripped-in reviews, typed out reviews, and we love seeing and reading them. So, here is one from Lave It's Legacy, L-A-V-E, It's Legacy 2001, and it's titled My Favorite Harry Potter Pod. Five stars. This podcast is by far my favorite Harry Potter podcast ever. The banter, the pop culture references, the genuine friendship between Coda and Alicia are all top tier. My only complaint is that it will take forever to get to the end of the series. I can't wait to get Alicia's reactions to the last three books, and sadly, a lot of Harry Potter podcasts don't make it that far. Womp womp. She didn't add the womp part. I just made that myself. Or they didn't add the womp part. I suffer from anxiety and found the podcast towards the end of my pregnancy. And you guys have become my safe space when I need to re-listen to something familiar to manage life. I'm much more confident in my love for the wizarding world and flaunting all my helpful puff pride. And that's from Latest Legacy 2001.

SPEAKER_09 9:10

Wow, that's so sweet. Just listening to it during my pregnancy. Aw, thank you for the review. That's so special.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Yeah, I love that. And you're right, no, it is a it is a Herculean feat to try to get through all the all seven books and the way that we're doing it, kind in terms of like chapter by chapter every week. There's been times where Alicia and I, we try to try to do like double up episodes or no double chapter episodes, and sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't, sometimes they're draining, sometimes they're too long. It's like it's just a constant, you know, reworking, fix, you know, workshop in progress. But that's what makes our podcast magical in terms of our journey into these books. So who knows what the future will hold? But right now, we're just gonna stay in the present and just enjoy this journey as it goes, and we'll see we'll see how we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_07 9:59

And we do have genuine friendship. I feel like people can pick up on that. Like, do we only talk once a week on air? Yes, but we like catch up here and like beforehand we catch up, and it's like always good vibes. So this is my friend, you are my friend, I'm your friend. Sorry, that's what I meant to say. And I hope that understand that.

SPEAKER_03 10:22

Yeah, and yeah, and also interesting as seeing our friendship through this podcast and stuff like that. Because I've never been one of those friends that I need to talk to you every single day. Like, I'm uh like your story on Instagram, maybe reply to your story. Obviously, if something you're going through something, you need to reach out, please reach out. But like I check in, like, I don't know, like I feel like I'm a low maintenance friend, but when we do get together, when we do link up, it's like old times, like catching up on everything. Like I so that's the type of friend I feel like I am.

SPEAKER_07 10:48

So and I feel like I appreciate that because yeah, I'm kind of low maintenance friend too.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Yeah, and I will say lastly that I feel like this podcast, I'm very blessed that we're doing this because like, yes, we're discussing Harry Potter and stuff like that, but I think we said this before, but it's also like a time capsule of like us catching up and pop culture things and all that stuff for us to like be able to look back on and stuff. So I I'm very blessed as well in that regard.

SPEAKER_07 11:11

So yeah, and it's about to be our one year of posting. I want to say, like, I think we've we aired our first episode in June of last year.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

June, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:22

So that's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

I'll say anniversary. I will say we need to do an anniversary last year.

SPEAKER_07 11:26

I'm leaving the country.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Sorry, at least it's gonna say see you. No, but okay, well, well, we'll think of something to do to commemorate that. I think we'll be finishing up Prisoner Azaban right around the time of our one year. So that's uh what a crazy coincidence. I love that, but yeah. So thank you for that five-star review. Really, really appreciate it. And look, look what conversation spurred from that one five-star review. We're just talking about all this other stuff going off of that. So I just love that. So go ahead and leave us a five-star review over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We really, really appreciate it as we're on our road to 50 new reviews by the end of the year. I think that makes the fourth one. So we still got 46 to go, honey. So y'all, y'all need to, y'all need y'all, y'all need to step it up, step the cookies up.

SPEAKER_07 12:11

Once that baby is born, get her to type. I'm just assuming you're having a girl. Let me know if you're having a girl. I'm sorry if that's weird, but I just have a feeling you're having a girl.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

That would be kind of witchy if you kind of predicted that or kind of could just guess that. Okay, anyways. All right. Okay, this is gonna be a crazy episode. I could have just already failed. Before we finally get into the chapter, Alicia, we haven't done this in a while. Are you ready for a whiz quiz?

SPEAKER_07 12:40

Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Question number one for Harry Potter, the Prisoner of Basketball. Chapter 18, Mooney, Wormtoe, Patfoot, and Prongs. Of course, make sure you play along at home. I'm not even gonna say I'm gonna post trivia on the Harry Star on my Instagram because I probably won't chat at this point. It's like a running joke. So, chapter one. Well, play along as you listen. How many years has Sirius Black waited to exact his revenge?

SPEAKER_07 13:01

Twelve.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Twelve years. In what year were Lupin's friends, James, Sirius, and Peter, able to finally transform into animals alongside him?

SPEAKER_07 13:13

In their third year of friendship.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

In what school year?

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Number three.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

It took them three years to be able to master it, and by the time the three years came, like was it it was their fifth year.

SPEAKER_07 13:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Yeah, so in their fifth year, but it took them three years to kind of uh master it. Okay. What professor escorted Lupin to the womping willow for his monthly transformations while a student at Hogwarts?

SPEAKER_05 13:50

Professor, not headmaster? I'm gonna say maybe Dumbledore was a professor back then.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Dumbledore was the headmaster, and that's why Lupin was probably able to come to Hogwarts because he kind of gave a little leeway to Lupin, but it's actually Professor Sprout. And if you think about it, the Womping Willow being a tree, and like Professor Sprout herbology, so she'd probably be the best person for that. What was the name of the potion that helped Lupin with his werewolf affliction?

SPEAKER_07 14:28

Luna, Luna, Luna, don't let me eat people.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Luna, Luna, don't let me eat people. Funny enough, the name was Wolf's Bane. And finally, the final question Who was in possession of Harry's invisibility cloak in this chapter?

SPEAKER_07 14:50

Professor Snake.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

And that is correct.

SPEAKER_07 14:56

How did he get the cloak? Yes. Oh, okay. We're gonna find out.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

We'll find out. We'll talk about that shortly, actually. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 15:05

I just thought he had his own cloak, and now you're telling me it's Harry's. I'm like, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 15:11

No, no, no. That invisibility cloak is a very rare magical item that thankfully was belonging to James. It's I it's been in Harry's family for a while, so I think it's been passed down through all the potters. So James had it when he was at school, and then he passed it down to Harry via Dumbledore in the first uh book, if you remember. But yeah, so no, that's not, you know, no, Snape does not have its own invisibility cloak. I don't think it's in my notes, but basically, I think when they were chasing after scabbards and crookshranks and all that stuff, they threw it off of them and just left it on the floor. And I guess Snape came across it and picked it up. That's what I want to assume, because that's what it made it seem like. Because it was in the last chapter said Ron threw the cloak off of him and chased after scabbards, and then Harry and Hermione threw the cloak off of them and chased after scabbards. So a little irresponsible on their part to leave such an important item just on the floor.

SPEAKER_07 15:56

But they were on the move.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

I think that's weird.

SPEAKER_07 15:58

They were on the move.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Yeah, they're on the move. There's a lot going on. And also, if the cloak is an invisibility cloak, I don't know how that works when you're not wearing it. Does it turn invisible on the floor or is it just a blanket? I guess maybe it's just a regular like sheet until you put it on and then you notice that it's invisible. I don't know. That's all logistical stuff. But yeah, so Snape had it.

unknown 16:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

All right. Well, a good job. Yes. We'll take it. We'll take it. But make sure you play it along at home and let us know how you did. Without further ado, let's finally go ahead and jump right on into Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Ascaban. Chapter 18, Mooney Wormtail, Patfoot and Prongs. So we pick up this chapter right where we left off in the Shrieking Shack with Professor Lupin and Sears Black making the shocking accusation that Ron's pet rat is not a rat at all, but actually a wizard with the special skill of being an anna magi by the name of Peter Pettigrew, a man that up until this point we and everyone in the Wizard and World thought was dead. Now, the trio's add a loss of words at how ridiculous this claim sounds, but when they do find their words finally, Ron calls both Lupin and Black mental. Hermione states it's ridiculous, and Harry reiterates that Peter Pettigrew is dead and that he was killed 12 years ago by Sirius Black as he points to Sears Black. Sears Black growls and replied that he meant to kill Peter Pettigrew, but got Peter Pettigrew got the better of him, but he wouldn't this time as he lunges for scabbers, fully landing on Ron's poor broken leg, causing Ron to yell at impate.

SPEAKER_07 17:31

Just snap it off at this point. Because these bitches keep trying it.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Because I feel like in the real world, the way Ron's leg is going through right now, like you're gonna need months of therapy and maybe a massage from a leaf.

SPEAKER_08 17:52

No refunds, because I can't fix that. But I'll I'll do a little one-two.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

So Lupin jumps in to pull Sirius off of Ron, telling him to wait, as they need to explain everything to the trio so that they can understand. Sirius Black is like, F that, we can explain after, still trying to get at Scabbers, who at this point is so frantic, he is squealing and scratching Ron's face, trying to get away. So Lupin is still trying to restrain Sirius, please, and pleased that the trio has the right to know everything. Ron has kept Scabbers as a pet. So, like, it's at least, you know, it's not easy. It's just I'll give me your pet rat. I'm gonna kill it. It's like, you know, explain to him what the whole situation is. And even though there are parts that he doesn't understand, Harry's also owed the truth. So Sirius Black finally concedes and calms down, but he keeps his eye on Scabbers and Ron, whose hands at this point are all bitten up and scratched up and bleeding from like Scabbers trying to get away. The way that this rat has fucked me up so badly trying to get away, Peter Pettigrew or not, you want him that badly. Like, take him, like it's yours. Like he's lived long enough.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

Like, yeah, this was before the horonavirus, but I'm sure they had some sort of rat disease back then too. And I would have, if that rat winced at me, I would have let it go. But for him to have marks all over his hands, Ron, you're doing the fucking most. Especially when you're always telling Hermione, get rid of your cat, which is like 18 times the size and like an actual an actual pet. Like, get rid of your rat.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

So Sears Black is like, say what you gotta say, but make it quick because I want to actually commit the murder I was in prison for all this time. And you know what? Hell yeah. Like, I I you know yeah, I'm not mad at it. So Ron isn't with the shit, still thinking Lupin and Sears are crazy, and he tries to get up on his good foot.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Get up on your good foot.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

That's a Nicki Minaj, uh, Nicki Minaj, deep cut, maybe. I don't know. Uh Mega, Maggie, Mag MAGA Barbie to leave. Uh so Ron, yeah, so Ron tries to get up to leave, but Lupin raises his wand and Ron at Ron and Scabbers' direction and says, No, you're gonna hear me out. Like, you already called me out of my name, child. You already called me a werewolf with so much venom, the least you could do is just hear me out. So she's like, just keep on holding on to Peter or Scabbers and just wait till I say my story or my side of things. So Ron yells out that he's not Peter Pettigrew, he's Scabbers, and tries to force himself back into his pocket. But the way Scabbers was fidgeting, Ron lost his balance, and Harry had to like help his injured friend back down to the bed. I'm like, Ron, at this point, Papa, just sit down. You're in no condition to try to get away, be defiant, just have a seat. Like, you out of the three of y'all, you are in no condition. Like, you're gonna listen to this story one way or another. Just have a seat.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

Like I love when you say Papa. You've been saying it a lot lately, and I fucking love it.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

It's like my I feel like it's my new thing. I just like saying that. I love it. So, so Harry turns his attention to Lupin, stating that there were witnesses that saw Peter Pettigrew die. Sirius Black interjecting to say they didn't see what they thought they saw. Lupin adds that everyone thought Sirius killed Peter, as did he, until he saw the Marauders map tonight. And as the map never lies, and he saw Peter Pettigrew on the map with Ron. Harry is not in agreement with Ron that these bitches are crazy as they look at each other like, what are you guys talking about? Thinking to themselves that it makes sense that Askaban would have done a number on Sirius, but why was Lupin going along with all these antics? So Hermione now chimes in, turning on her star student, you know, mode to ask some questions. She starts by telling Lupin that it simply can't be true that Scabbers is Peter Pettigrew. And Lupin replies, why not? Very calmly, as if this was like a class discussion on Grindolos or something like that. And Hermione goes on to explain that people would know if Peter Pettigrew was an anime guy, animagus, because when they were studying Anime Guy in Professor McGonagall's transfiguration class, Hermione went the extra mile during her homework to look them up as the Ministry of Magic kept keeps a registration of all wizards and witches who can become animals, as it's not an easy skill to master. And so the registration shows which animal the witch or wizard can transform into, any special markings they have on them. So it's like it's a retro. Like, if you can do this special thing, we need to know that way. You can't just be like doing bad things and then turning into an animal and getting away, stuff like that. Like Sears Black was accused of doing. So when she looked up, so when she looked up the registration, Professor McGonagall's name was there, as well as seven other wizards for the entire century. That's it. So out of the whole entire Wizard and World community, only well, eight total wizards can do this. So first off, shout out to Professor McGonagall for having this uh special cool skill, but then also shout out to the other seven people that could do it. So Lupin laughs at Hermione being right on the money, but then adds that the minute she didn't know that there were three unregistered anime guy frolicking around at Hogwarts.

SPEAKER_09 22:40

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Yes. Yeah. We're gonna talk, we're gonna talk more about Australia in terms of like the Lupin's friends turning into anime guests when they're at Hogwarts or whatever. But like, okay, if this is a very hard skill to master and there's only eight anime guests in the whole entire wizard community for the last century, either this registration isn't as accurate as it needs to be or hasn't been updated, or like because I'm like, how do three high school students master this skill that I'm sure many grown wizards have tried and not been able to do? So I just think that's interesting, or maybe like I don't want maybe witches and witches don't have the desire to transform into animals, so people haven't like you know seeked out trying to do it. But I don't know. I feel like this would just be a skill that I want to have in my tool belt if it's available to me. But the way they make it seem, they make it seem like it's very hard to do. So the fact that there's only eight registered ones and then these three high school kids are able to master it in three years.

SPEAKER_07 23:34

So, like, who else is not on the list besides these three? Also, if you master how to transform and or morph into one animal, how come you can't morph into another animal too? But I guess you were saying like you have different markings on your body.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

Well, I think it's like if you as a human have a mole on your or a birthmark on your leg or something, then that would show up on the animal too. So then they know specifically like this when yeah. It's like, oh, this dog has a birthmark on their left leg, it must be this person or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Oh my god, it's oh child, okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

Well, hold on to that thought because I have a question for you later on. But yeah, speaking of animal transformations, Alicia, do you have a keeping it coda?

SPEAKER_07 24:29

I do. All right, for this week's keeping it coda. I would like you to assign three different animals for the trio to morph into. These animals cannot be rat, cat, dog, snake. They need to be a little bit more out the box. You can even get mystic if you want.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I want to start with her money first. Because I want to say hermione is Hermione would transform into I'm trying to think of an animal that's smart, clever about their business. I want to say Hermione would transform into an eagle or some type of bird aviation creature. Oh, I guess I could have talked about this earlier. I'll save it for the future, but I have a I have a bird's nest on my windowsill right now, so I'm being able to witness how they operate in terms of like protecting their baby eggs and just go and come. So well, I'll talk about that in the next episode, but just seeing that, I'm like, it's it, I mean, it's just interesting seeing how they operate. I'm like, damn, these are some smart birds. And like the I'm like, how are they communicating with each other to come and go and keep the so I'm gonna give Hermani is an eagle? And the fact that eagles are like rare and like they're just like above it all and just in their own little world, but don't mess with them. Yeah, so Hermani is gonna be an eagle. I wanna yeah, I want to say Ron is gonna be a panda.

SPEAKER_07 26:02

Oh, which one?

SPEAKER_03 26:05

What type of panda?

SPEAKER_07 26:07

Or is there only one panda?

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Uh oh no, I know, like, you know, there's like the white and black pandas, and I think there's like the red pandas and stuff like that. But I was just I just think the white and black pandas, you know, because like just very laxadaisical, like to eat their bamboo sticks, kind of playful, kind of good time. Um yeah, that's what I see for Ron just being chill, or maybe an otter. Okay, I'll stick with panda, but you know, I'm just thinking in the sense of Ron's very chill, laid back, easy going. But don't fuck with them either. Because I think like pandas can get a little aggressive sometimes if you like fuck with them. Yeah, yeah, because you know Ron's always down to squawk, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 26:42

If anything, they can just fall on you like as an enemy, like bam. It's like that one Pokemon, that really big one that's purple, the snoozy one. I'm really bad with names.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

Snor, is it Snorlax?

SPEAKER_07 26:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

I might have just made that up.

SPEAKER_07 26:57

Oh, that sounds right.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

That just came Snorlax. That's a deep cut. Let me see. Yeah, it's Snorlax. It's like blue and uh blue and white. Snorlax is a highly sleepy Pokemon known for constantly sleeping. Thanks to its extremely strong digestive juices, Snorlax stomach can dissolve any kind of poison. As a result, it can eat tainted food without work.

SPEAKER_08 27:16

Oh, I didn't know that that was its superpower.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Okay, no, some Pokemon fun facts. But you never know where we're gonna go with this damn podcast. We're talking about Pokemon chat. Okay, okay, so wrong panda, and then Harry is going to be. Ooh, Harry. Give me some help with this one. I'm trying to think of what Harry could be because he is a little sassy thing.

SPEAKER_07 27:42

Yeah, like give me the qualities that you think Harry is, and then I can try to match the animal.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Because like we also have like the brave, the courageous, like a resilience for his childhood, all that stuff. But then we also have the sassy, you know, sassy Harry coming out every now and then with his clapbacks and his, but he also has that shy introspection, kind of keeping to himself because of you know what he's been through, or at least as how I've seen it.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

Yeah. Maybe in iguana. Does that make any sense to you?

SPEAKER_03 28:16

I could see that. I could see that.

SPEAKER_07 28:22

This is hard. Who would y'all pick for Harry? No. Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Right. I was gonna say even lion, but I was like, no, Gryffindor or lion.

SPEAKER_07 28:33

What about like a white jaguar? Or do they come in different colors?

SPEAKER_03 28:39

Yeah, there's black jaguars. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 28:44

Harry's an enigma.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Yeah, I mean it stumps. Harry, we'll have maybe we'll see. We'll see in time what Harry's uh Anamegus transformation could be. But yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:54

For some reason, I was gonna say Hermione as a beaver, because beavers are really smart. They build, they like get their uh they get their team together, and like they always know what they're doing, and they like move with purpose. I think Ron as an otter would be super cute, red-headed otter.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_07 29:18

Maybe Harry would be like some sort of creature in the night because he always likes to sneak out like a nocturnal something.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Yeah, I don't want to a bat or an owl. Owl is like no bat, no.

SPEAKER_07 29:30

What about a scorpion?

SPEAKER_03 29:33

A scorpion? I feel like those are so like too mean, aggressive, aggressive, violent. If we're taking for talking mystic, no shit. Maybe a dragon. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 29:48

Here you go. Here you dragon.

SPEAKER_03 29:49

I don't know. I don't know. Okay, well, thank you for this. Give me a coda. This was fun. This was this is definitely one you gotta think on and steal with. So, you guys, uh, let us know what you think each of the trios and a makers forms would be.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

For once you got a two out of three.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

Okay, now let's continue with the chapter. So, yes, so now Lupin says basically that the Ministry of Magic does not know that there or that there were three unregistered anime guy at Hogwarts. Now, at this point, Sears Black is getting fed up at all this conversation and tells Lupin to hurry the hell up with all this damn backstory as he's waited 12 years for this moment and he isn't going to wait much longer.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

I did my waiting, 12 years of it in Askaban.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

That's a movie reference.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

You'll you'll you'll you'll come to understand that. Um, at least he's looking at me like, okay, this guy is not well.

SPEAKER_09 30:50

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

Okay. So Lupin is like, okay, okay, but he'll need Sears' help in the story as he only knows the first half. But in that moment, everyone hears a creak from outside the room, and Lupin goes to check, but there's no one there.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

Knowing what we know at the end of the chapter, I think this is when Snape had arrived at the shrieking shack underneath the invisibility cloak, and he just decides to stay out the room, stay outside the room to just like hear the plot be revealed or whatever, like a creeper. So I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_07 31:21

He is such a creeper.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

He said, Before I bust in here to uh bust up the party, let me hear what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_07 31:27

You would do that, you would get all the intellect, and then walk out.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Absolutely, absolutely. You gotta be smart in this thing. I'm gonna one of these days I'm gonna apply to be on Big Brother or Survivor, and I'm gonna need like testimonials from everyone that knows me in terms of like how cunning and creative I can be.

SPEAKER_07 31:46

And when you get super, super famous, you'll be on traitors. God forbid you're a faithful. That's a waste of potential.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

I don't I don't like I don't like how do you see me? Like now I'm curious to know what's the person you think I am.

SPEAKER_07 32:02

I see you as someone that's very capable of winning traitors.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

As a traitor, as a traitor.

SPEAKER_07 32:11

I mean, you could win as a faithful too. Okay, but I think you would want to be in control of what's going on. Okay, you would want to plan, yeah, and like I could just see you like having so much fun manipulating villainous, yes, yes, everyone in that building.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

I could see that. I could see that. If the podcast takes a hiatus, it might be because I'm on Big Brother Survivor child. So charge it to my head, not my heart, because I've been a fan of both of those of us for a long time. Okay, anyways. So yeah, so everyone hears something outside, but Lupin checks and there's no one there. So Ron reminds everyone that the Shrieking Shack is haunted, to which Lupin replies, actually, no, it was never haunted. The screams and howls that people have always heard coming from the shrieking shack was actually him. So Lupin explains that this all essentially started with him and that none of this would have happened if it if he wasn't bitten. So essentially, when Lupin was very small, he was bitten by a werewolf. And though his parents tried everything in those days, there was no cure. And so as a result, he too was now a werewolf. I'm kind of interested to know how Lupin as a child came across a werewolf. Like, where was Lupin at that, you know? Okay, well, who knows? Um, but so that's interesting. But thanks to the wolf's being potion that has now come into recent discovery, the one that Professor Snape has been making for him all school year, though Lupin still has to transform when it's a full moon, he's able to kind of remain kind of like docile and calm. And he would typically just like stay locked up in his office, harmless, until the full moon has passed. So that's kind of how he's like dealing with being a werewolf while at Hogwarts, and that's why he disappeared for times, and he was always out sick and yada yada yada. But thankfully, because of Snape's uh professor Professor Snape's wolf spane potion, that's how he was able to deal with it. But again, this wolf spin potion is a new discovery. So before this, in his childhood, when he would transform, he would be a full-blown, violent, dangerous monster as a werewolf. So it only it seemed nearly impossible that he'd ever be able to attend Hogwarts, as the chances of other parents being okay with their kid being around a student with a contagious lifelong affliction was highly unlikely. Would you be one of those parents?

SPEAKER_07 34:19

I think the parents that have like the parents of the trios class, they would probably be okay with it because their kids have been through so much, like with the chamber of secrets, petrification, all of these crazy things. But back then, no, hell no.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:41

Um does he know how many kids he killed, like before he went to Hogwarts, how many people he killed and attacked as a werewolf?

SPEAKER_03 34:51

Lupin?

SPEAKER_07 34:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

I don't think he's killed anyone. I think his parents were from what I'm from this chapter, I'm assuming his parents were really good about keeping him locked up when he transformed. So he wasn't ever like he didn't ever actually harm someone. I'm I that's what I'm assuming. Well, if you think about it, okay, you go you go to hard courts when you're 11. So if he got bit around like, I don't know, like six, seven years old, that's like five years at home with his parents. Maybe his parents took precautions locking him up on full moons, like like chaining him up or something to keep him from like hurting anyone. So I'm assuming that he didn't kill anyone.

SPEAKER_07 35:32

And if you're five years old, are you transforming into like an adult werewolf or a five-year-old werewolf?

SPEAKER_03 35:41

That's interesting. I actually I had in my notes here, I said I'm curious to know what a child werewolf looks and acts like and how that's dealt with. I know like a teen wolf shots a teen wolf on MTV. I watched it for a few seasons, it kind of got a little crazy, but that full castles. They were like that.

SPEAKER_08 36:01

But that's what's there was lust in my eyes watching that.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Yeah, so I don't know how, yeah. I I I am gonna say that he did not kill anyone when he was a child because his parents took the precautions to kind of prevent him from doing that.

SPEAKER_07 36:17

And then he But still really isolated as a kid to have to be locked up and you don't relate to your peers, going through this painful thing once a month and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 36:26

So I will say that people make real-world comparisons of lycanthropy, which is what you know, werewolf is or whatever. They they kind of assemble like they compare it to HIV AIDS.

SPEAKER_07 36:39

Oh, like I've seen that because it's transmitted by blood, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

A lot of different things because it's like a lifelong, you know, thing that you have to deal with is transmittable via like bodily fluids, the stigma around it. We'll we'll hear more about the stigma of like being a werewolf and stuff like that. But even like you see, when Ron found out instantly that when Ron found out Lupin was a werewolf, the way he kind of spewed it, like, get away from me, whereof, like if you think back to the ASA pandemic and all that, kind of like I don't want to be near you. So I don't know, people just draw on that comparison. I personally I see people's points. I think people are giving this author too much credit to be able to be that deep in terms of that, but I see what people would think that.

SPEAKER_07 37:19

So, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

So, with Lupin now being like a child werewolf, there was no chance of Hogwarts for child Lupin. But then Dumbledore became the headmaster and he was sympathetic, deciding that there was no reason that Lupin shouldn't be allowed to attend Hogwarts as long as the proper precautions were put in place. And said precaution that Dumbledore came up with was the Womping Willow. So the Womping Willow wasn't just some crazy tree that liked to attack cars and people that approached it. It was actually planted for Professor Lupin or student Lupin at the time, the year he arrived at Hogwarts as a guard of sorts for the secret hideaway, the shrieking shack for Lupin's full moon transformation. So once a month, Lupin would be smuggled out of the castle to the entrance of the Wamping Willow, where he would take the tunnels to the Shrieking Shack to transform and without the full moon there. And the tree was placed at the entrance of the tunnel that led to the shrieking shack to prevent anyone from getting near Lupin when he was fully transformed and dangerous as a werewolf. That all makes sense. That tracks. So it it all makes sense in terms of like, okay, why the Wamping Willow is planted, why people would hear howls from the Shrieking Shack, where Lupin went. It it all tracks. And yeah, right?

SPEAKER_07 38:29

You get all that, and it's creative, writing.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

It's very creative because up until yeah.

SPEAKER_07 38:34

I would have never guessed that.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

Yeah, up until this point, you just thought this damn crazy tree, like, what is gone off the street? You just think natural school, okay, there's just a tree in the courtyard that likes to attack people, but like, no, like it's serving a purpose in terms of guarding the entrance to the streaking shack to prevent people from like getting near Lupin. So yeah, it's just very interesting. And shout out to Professor Sprout for you know fostering that planned and I'm sure enchanting it to do the job that needs to be done on Domador's orders.

SPEAKER_07 38:59

So Professor Sprout is old.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

That's what I was also thinking, too. I'm like, okay, so now Lupin was a student when Professor Sprout was teaching at Hogwarts, and now he's a full-grown adult and he's like one of her co-workers. So yeah, so it's definitely an age gap, an age difference there. I believe in the books, they say that Harry's parents and Lupin and all of them, they're supposed to be like 23, 24. They're supposed to be very young. So they, you know, Harry's parents died very young. So Lupin and Sirius and all of them, they're probably like 23, 24, 25. So they're like in their 20s. So Professor Sprout is probably like in 30s, 40s, McGonnell, all that stuff. Yeah. So just so you can kind of like picture that.

SPEAKER_07 39:41

But but Lupin and Harry's parents, they're not the same age.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

They are, they all went to school together. So Lupin, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 39:48

So you're saying that the parents died around 23, 24, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 39:56

So then we add 12 years to that. And we have now Lupin is 36.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

Yes, just about, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:05

Okay. I thought he was an old man too. Because he's always falling asleep, but now I understand.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:11

He's being affected by Luna.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Yes. I love that you keep on saying Luna because that's actually a character that you'll be meeting in the fifth book, child. And I think you'll like her. Okay. Okay. So Harry didn't understand what the point of this story was, but he listened attentively. The entire room did actually. The only noise besides Lupin's like voice in terms of telling the story was Scabbers, still frantic and squeaking away. I feel like Scabbers just knows that his life's about to come to an end one way or another. So he's just like, Oh my god, like, please fuck off with this story. Like, I just try to get away, but no.

SPEAKER_07 40:49

I would have just transformed back to human. At least I can use my hands. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

I'm screaming.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

I'm screaming.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Like at this point, like all of you at once.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

The jig is up, the jig is up, child. Um, okay.

SPEAKER_08 41:01

Time to clock out, time to clock out.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

No, literally. So Lupin goes on to explain how werewolf transformations were incredibly painful for him in his youth. And since he was siloed away from biting other humans, he would bite and scratch himself and the front chair of the streaking shack. The Hogsmead townspeople would hear Lupin's screams and noises and thought they were hearing violent spirits. And Dumbledore, of course, encouraged this rumor. And even now that there's no more noise from the shack because Lupin isn't there anymore, obviously, no one dares approach it just because of the the lore around the shrieking shack. So there's that. So Lupin continues by saying that apart from these painful, agonizing, violent transformations, he couldn't have been happier while at Hogwarts. And that um his time as Hogwarts was great, as for the first time in forever, he had three great friends in Sirius Black, Peter Pettigrew and Harry's father, James Potter. I love that. I isn't that crazy. Like you have to go through these painful, violent transformations once a month while going to school. But you're like, you know, besides that, I'm having a great time because I have friends, and uh, I don't know. Something about that's kind of just like it makes me feel like, yeah. It's like because people have like these sicknesses, or like if you think about children, like they have these, like you know, the child cancers and all that stuff, like just the worst of the worst things, but then sometimes they can still find the joy and the brightness when like they get a favorite toy or they go to the make a wish foundation, or or a celebrity comes and visits them and like they're able to light up for just a moment in the midst of all their illnesses and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07 42:33

I have a bonus keeping it, Coda. What would your make a wish be?

SPEAKER_03 42:41

Are you saying what would I want to do if I was an afflicted child and I can a dream?

SPEAKER_07 42:47

No, you can make your wish as an adult with cancer.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

Okay. Um what would I want to do? Make a wish. And make a wish is like anything you want, like they'll try to make it happen for you. You know what? I would probably the first thing that came to mind is like I would want a notable role on one of my favorite shows or something like that. Like, cause like God forbid, you know, if the cancer outwins or whatever, and you know, I'm not here in the next five years, at least I'll have that like to like share with the world, or like just that piece of me will still be mine. But that's too actory. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 43:31

No, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'll go with that.

SPEAKER_07 43:34

Yeah, I was gonna say I want to interview Wendy Williams.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

All right.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

How are you doing? And you know what?

SPEAKER_07 43:43

I would love to I would want a phone call with her. She doesn't have to come. I just I just want to talk to her on the phone.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

Yeah, I would love that. And maybe one like in her heyday, not like present day.

SPEAKER_07 43:55

Yeah, so maybe if I had cancer ten years ago.

SPEAKER_01 43:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

Because y'all will be chopping it up and having a good old time. Now it's gonna be like, yeah. Um, but yeah, feel better, get get well soon, Wendy Wilms. Okay, all right, so yeah, that was an interesting question. Thank you. Okay, so yeah, so Lupin says now with these great friends, Lupin was worried about how to explain his absences once a month, coming up with different excuses, like that his mother was ill and they had to go home to see her, for instance. He was terrified that if they knew the truth, they would desert him. But like Hermione, they eventually put the pieces together and found out the truth. And lucky for Lupin, they didn't desert him. In fact, they did the opposite, they found a way to be there for their friend, as only teenage boys could think to do so. They too would become animals alongside Lupin, they would become anime guy.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

Interesting. So Harry's like, wait, my daddy's part animal. And Lupin is like, well, yes. It took Harry's dad, James, along with Cyrus, about three years to learn how to do it and master it. Peter Pettigrew needed the most help out of like the bunch of them in terms of learning how to do it. But James and Cyrus are like top their class for a smart wizard, so they were they had it down pat eventually. But by their fifth year at Hogwarts, they were able to do it, they were all able to transform into animals. And again, anime guy is a very rare skill, hard to master. I think Hermione's apologies potion, the buckle in chamber of secrets, when she messed that up and she had some whiskers and some fur. That's like one thing. That's just a potion that's reversible. But this is like you're literally contorting your body in all the ways to fully transform into an animal. So if you don't do it right, you can end up being like having a cat head and a dog tail and just a mess.

SPEAKER_07 45:38

So it's very and Hermione was in the hospital for that for a long time.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Yes, damn near having a lot of time.

SPEAKER_07 45:45

So let alone this like you would see all your classmates graduate before they fixed your ass.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

Yeah, yeah. I'm just thinking back on chamber seekers. Hermione really went through. We talked about it then, but between the transformation hospital today and then got petrified, and my uh my girl. And she didn't get to make a wish, she didn't get to make a wish, she didn't get any special honors from Dumbledore. Oh, we hate to see. So Hermione's like, that's great and all that you have animal pals now, but how did it help in terms of your werewolf affliction? And Lupin replies that they couldn't keep him company as humans, but they could they they could keep him company as animals, as werewolves were only a danger to humans. And in my head, I was like, What the fuck type of predator is a werewolf that like you would think a werewolf is just like is gonna try to kill anything. It's like, no, it only wants humans, so like if there's animals, it's just gonna ignore them. I thought that was interesting, but okay, sure. So, yeah, so as animals, the Lupin's friends were safe and they were able to keep him company. So once a month, they would sneak out of the castle under James Invisibility cloak and the same cloak that now belongs to Harry, and they would meet by the Wamping Willow. Now, Peter's transformation being the smallest, a rat, a rat at Peter Pettigrew would sneak close to the womping willow and press the knot to bring it to stillness and allow them to all enter the tunnel and keep Lupin company. Now, I'm sorry, but at the sight of my friend turning into a rat, I would immediately be giving them a side eye because of all the animals that you can turn into. What do you mean that's the one you're transforming into? Like, I don't know. Like, and then this is like I don't know about like I'll have to read up on it, but I don't know if animagi they have a choice in terms of what animal they transform into, or if it's like a spirit animal essence type of thing, it just happens naturally. But like it chooses, yeah, but like a rat, and that's even worse because if it chooses what animal you're gonna turn into and it turns you into a rat, that's saying something about your character, Mommy. Yes, the friendship is gonna have to end immediately. So they should have definitely been given Peter the side eye from that moment on.

SPEAKER_07 47:40

Either that or enroll in culinary school and make a beautiful French film.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

Okay, shout out to Remy, Remy the rat, ratatouille, honey. Remy. So so Sirius again tells Lupin to hurry the fuck up with this story. Shit. At this point, I felt like I'm being rushing this recap by Sirius child. Like, let me hurry up.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

So the way Sirius is acting, I was like, let me, let me, let me know.

SPEAKER_07 48:05

Sirius should have just slaughtered everyone. Fuck it, fuck a rewrap. Bam, bam, bam.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

He's so over it. Sirius said, I got people to kill and places to be. I was locked up and they won't let me, yeah. Um so Lupin goes on saying that with them all being able to transform into animals, now the possibilities were endless. So soon they left the streaking shack and started roaming the Hogwarts grounds and hogs meet at night as animals. And Sirius and James having transformed into larger animals. They were able to keep Lupin in line if he ever like started bugging out while he was a werewolf. But through all this roaming and exploring, that's how the Marauders map was born. And they all signed it with each of their nicknames. Sirius was Patfoot, Lupin was Mooney, Peter as Wormtail, and James as Prongs, hence our chapter title, Mooney, Wormtail, Patfoot, and Prongs. Call back to Snape's Grudge chapter when Harry asked if he knew who these people were, and Lupin said, We met. Boy, you as one of the authors, stop playing. Um, so I love that. I love that. Yeah, and it just makes sense. Like, yeah, they're exploring all of Hogwarts as animals. Of course, you're gonna know every nook and cranny of Hogwarts and stuff like that. So it's quite cool.

SPEAKER_07 49:16

And we'll figure out what everyone's animal was that we don't know already.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Yeah, so we know Pat, so we know Sears is the big black dog, um, Lupin is a werewolf, so that's Mooney, and then Peter allegedly is a rat. Right. And yes, yes, socktail. Man, please. So, yeah, so like you said, we know uh what animals the three of them can turn into. We don't know what animal James can turn into. But at this point, I'm like, I'm with Sears at this point because I feel like it's taking a long time to get to the point because this whole conversation started about trying to prove that Scabbroos is actually Peter Pettigrew, and now we're going into this whole backstory and lore, and I know it's culminating to something, but I definitely understand Sears' frustration because I'm like, come on, we're supposed we're trying to expose this man, what's going on? But I digress. So Harry's like, Well, what sort of animal was my dad? But Hermione cuts off his question to whack Lupin real quick, stating that it was still very dangerous to run around at night like that as a werewolf, even if they had animals with you to keep you in line. Because what if you like broke free from them and ran into a human alone at night? Like you could have attacked them and you know, transformed someone else. So, like it was still very irresponsible. And Lupin concedes that it was indeed foolish thinking, thinking back on it, and it still haunts him as there were some very near misses, many, in fact, but they would often laugh about it after. And he just, you know, says they were young and naive and just amused by their cleverness and ignorant to the possible dangers and harm. So, teenage boys, you know, doing teenage boy stuff, but with possible real life dangerous consequences.

SPEAKER_07 50:52

So, and what is a rat gonna do to stop a werewolf? Like trip it?

SPEAKER_03 50:59

No, not probably not much, but I think in terms of like James or Sirius being a big black dog, and then and I'm I'm not I'm talking about a big dog, like yeah, I understand.

SPEAKER_07 51:09

Like, we're rolling with the big dogs over here. That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

Yeah, uh Peter probably ain't gonna do much, and then James, whatever animal he transforms into, was also able to keep uh Lupin in mind. But again, if Lupin got away from them and came across another student at Hogwarts that was sneaking out or something, God knows what could happen. So I'm gonna have to get on Dumbledore in a minute. But yeah, so I'm glad her mind kind of like whacked him a little bit for that. Because again, you know, boys will be boys, but still, no, no bueno. So Lupin admits that he feels guilty betraying Dumbledore's trust after he took a chance on him coming to Hogwarts when others wouldn't, both as a kid/slash student and now as an adult and a faculty member, and to rope in three other students to become a legal anime guy as well. Something Dumbledore still doesn't know to this day, which makes it even worse than our present day because he still hasn't confessed his knowledge of Sears being an anime guest, and that could possibly explain how Sears was coming and going from Hogwarts. But Lupin kind of just reasoned it away at the time, like throughout the whole school year, that instead that Sears was probably using the dark arts that he learned from Voldemort to escape and gain entry, and it wasn't the fact that he could transform into a dog, which is the actual reason why he was able to come and go so sneakily. So, yeah, so she just feels bad because he kind of like betrayed Dumbledore's trust then and now. So, in a way, Lupin says, Snape has been right about him. Now, Sears takes his eyes off Ascabbers for the first time to turn to Lupin and be like, Snape, what does he have to do with any of this? And of course, Sears Black being out of Lupin Azkaban, Lupin lets him know that Snape too teaches here at Hogwarts, Hogwarts, and that he was at school the same time as Lupin and the gang. So we're getting some real lore here. So now we got Harry's parents, Sirius, James, Sirius, Peter, Lupin, Snape, all of them went to school together at the same time. So think of Degrassi and Degrassi next generation. So like the parents were kind of whatever it takes. I know I'll make it through. So yeah, so it's all interconnected here. So Lupin basically goes on to say that Snape had vehemently been against Lupin's hiring, telling Dumbledore that Lupin wasn't to be trusted. No, I wonder how Lupin found this out, like that Snape was talking greasy about him before he got hired. Like, was Dumbledore being messy during like Lupin's interview and was like, Well, you know, there's some faculty here that don't think we should hire you and you're not to be trusted. Tell me why or why not we should, using the star format. Like, I don't know, like how did Lupin find out? Like, how did Lupin like find out that you know?

SPEAKER_07 53:30

Well, I think Lupin knows that Snape doesn't fuck with him since they were kids, and he knows that Snape teaches there. So yeah, if it's not like y'all had coffee in the past 12.

SPEAKER_03 53:44

Coffee in the past 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's true, that's true.

unknown 53:49

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:51

I don't think I don't think Dumbledore would be like, hey. Snape said one of my yeah, I don't think he would do that.

SPEAKER_03 53:58

Yeah, he probably just gave him like, hmm, some faculty had some reservations. I don't know. I feel like, yeah, if you're some faculty had some reservations about your appointment, what say you? But, anyways, so Lupin says that Snape had his reasons to say that, as when they were at school together, Sirius played a trick on him which nearly cost Snape his life, a trick that involved Lupin. Sirius is like, and did, sure did. I sure did do that, and you would too. You would have done it too for a check. Because honestly, okay, okay, but joking, joking aside, Sirius is like, yeah, he deserved it for being nosy, sneaking around trying to figure out what we're up to. So Sirius is like fully standing on business, 10 toes down, and I'm like, damn, that is crazy. Like, I hate a nosy person as much as the next person, but to think that it's okay for them to die over it, like my goodness, like yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:49

What is it, squid games? Like, it's Hogwarts.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:53

Also, y'all are disappearing on a monthly basis. I'm a little curious as to why I'm the only one doing my homework. What do y'all bitches have going on?

SPEAKER_03 55:02

Like, God forbid, I just want to get some fucking answers that I deserve to die for it. Like, I'm like, perhaps serious, perhaps Sears needs to be back in jail on different charges, like an attempt to murder charge or something.

SPEAKER_07 55:12

You're lucky Colin wasn't a student back then because I would have taken my camera and had all three of y'all identified, all four of you.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Like a mess. So I was like, Sirius, but so this is what so yeah, so so Lupin goes on to say that yeah, their posse and Snape didn't get along very well, and most strongly of all, Snape and James, Harry's dad, didn't get along, as we know. And Lupin says, possibly jealous of James' popularity or James credit scales, etc. Who knows? But one day, so Snape had seen Lupin crossing the Hogwarts grounds towards the Wamping Willow with Madame Pomfrey for his special monthly appointment with the moon with Miss Luna. So Sirius thought it would be funny to send Snape after Lupin and told him how to get the Womping Willow to stop and enter the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack. And of course, Snape being Snape, he tried it. Okay. Sirius giving you a big style right now. If Snape had gotten fully through the tunnel and to the shrieking shack, he would have come face to face with a violent, murderous, bloodthirsty werewolf and most likely met his demise. Because again, back then there was no wolf splane potion to kind of keep Lupin calm. He would have been fully like ready to kill a human upon encountering one. But thankfully, James, you know.

SPEAKER_07 56:28

And if they're in their fifth year, they're at least 16 years old. They should they definitely know better than to be great point.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Great point. Old enough to know, like 11, 12 years old. Okay, kids are being kids. But 16, 17, you're about to go, you're about to be charged as an adult. Like, what are you doing here?

SPEAKER_07 56:44

You're smart enough to transform into an animal. You're not smart enough to not get away with murder.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So thankfully, James uh Potter caught wind of loop or Sears' prank, if you can even call it that, and stopped Snape before it was too late. But even still, Snape had just caught the slightest glimpse of Lupin's transformation into a werewolf at the end of the tunnel. So he from that point on knew that Lupin was a werewolf. But he was forbidden by Dumbledore from ever telling anyone. That forbidden. Like the fact I don't know. I'm sure people take being forbidden from doing something very seriously in British culture and of that time. Because, like, okay, my headmaster is telling me, 16-year-old me, that I can't ever tell anyone this big thing I found out, and you like abide by that. I think that's interesting. Because I'll be telling some, it's like when Harry's having a conversation in Dumbledore and he runs back to go tell her Mani and Ron right away. Like, you know, that's just like teenagers being friends.

SPEAKER_07 57:39

Probably didn't have friends. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

Well, there's that too. There's that, yeah. I'm a one to tell. Yeah, so we'll see. But yeah. So we've already talked about, but serious, I just think that's actually absurd that you were literally willing to send someone to their death because of what? Them just being nosy and you guys not liking each other. Like, and he fully did it without even like a I'ma like sent him in there. And just after he sees the werewolf, I'm gonna pull him back out or stop him. Something he literally just sent him on his way and was like, Yeah, you're good luck. Good luck, Chuck. Like, yeah, yeah. No bueno. So Harry asks, That's why Snape doesn't like you, because he thought you were in on the plot to have him killed. And before Lupin can answer, a new voice enters the chat from behind Lupin to answer with, That's right. It was none other than Professor Snape uncloaking himself from Harry's invisibility cloak and his wand aimed directly at Professor Lupin.

SPEAKER_07 58:41

All you would have heard was, and that would be me peeing myself. Get me out of this haunted shack.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

A new character has entered the villa. And Professor Snape. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 58:59

Imagine him like going on one of those hot shows. Like, what do you want?

SPEAKER_03 59:03

I could not with all his black, uh, black uh cloak. I could see him in some black, you know, some black flowy swim trunks. Maybe like a black.

SPEAKER_08 59:11

Yeah, and a fuck it up bob. Actually, it's kind of a black.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

It's a black shades. What the heck? Okay. But yeah, so that closes out chapter 18 of Hap in the Prison of Ass Band Mooney, Wormtail, Patha, and Pongs. Alicia, what were your overthought overall thoughts on this chapter? I feel like this is just backstory, backstory galore, explanation for things, a lot of loop and character, you know, character work here for your favorite professor. And yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:40

Yeah, I'm kind of just like, I need to read the next chapter now. And I want to know what James's animal is because I feel I don't know why, but it just feels like it's important to the story. I understand Snape better as well, because y'all bitches try to kill me. And then I was forbidden to talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Ooh.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:05

And so now you want to hire them as a teacher. And in my mind, he was a co-signer to my murder. Like planned murder. So, yeah, I don't want to work with him, and yeah, I don't want to make him a fucking potion. I also don't want to rub his fucking feet.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

Oh, points are being made. You bring up a great point in why Lupin may feel a kind of way about Lupin overall. Okay, so we'll give we'll give Snape. Well, I won't give him his tens, but I'll give him his six and a halves for 0.05. I'll give him a little something, no something, because yeah, you may bring up some great points. So you like Snape now? Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:45

I never said that. I'm very scared of him. So I'm not gonna say I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

But you understand him in this specific instance.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:54

Yeah, in this specific situation, he was not in the wrong. I also understand why he was curious. Like they're all the same age. Where are you going?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

It's almost like Neville. It's like Neville in the first book when the trio's sneaking out to try to save the sorcerer's stone and he tried to stop them and hermani said child move. Like it's almost something like that, but like obviously it wasn't fatal for Neville. But it's just something like something similar. Like, kids are gonna be kids, they're gonna notice someone. It's like if you're in class in middle school or high school and you get called, someone comes to call you out of the class, and everyone's like, ooh, what's going on? And then when you come back, everyone's asking what's going on, like what happened, whatever. Like, it's just kids being kids. So I definitely don't think same deserve to die for it. So Sirius, give me a little bit of a side eye right now, Harry's godfather. But we'll see where, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:36

Sirius seems like a little unhinged. Obviously, he spent the 12 in the 12. Isn't that what prison's called?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:44

In the 12, yeah, and in the yeah, yeah. But it seems like even back then he was a little and he's a in funny enough, he's a Slytherin. So it's actually interesting because they're not all in the same house. So Lupin, James, and Peter were in Gryffindor, and then Sears is in Slytherin. So it's interesting that there's like some wait, I might have just made that up. I might have just made that up. Let me let me course correct that right now. Was Sears Black a girl? Oh no, I lied. Sears Black is a Gryffindor. Oop, oh, I'm glad I caught that.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:17

So the four boys. Yeah, they were all in Gryffindor, all griffin.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

But Sears' family, like his lineage of all the people that have gone to Hogwarts, they have all been Slytherin. So he has a lot of Slytherin. Oh, that's yeah, so he has a lot of Slytherin ancestry. So he was kind of like the black sheep in terms of becoming a Gryffindor. But this was very Slytherin coded of him, I will say, as someone from the Slytherin house, it was very Slytherin coded to kind of do this. So yeah, so I'll uh yeah, it's a very interesting chapter. And just like Sears, I am still like ready. And we have yet to see this man be unveiled. We're just getting a lot of chit chat, but no action. So I'm ready to get into it in the next chapter. And I believe the next chapter is titled The Servants of Lord Voldemort. So we shall see what happens there. We haven't had any Voldemort this entire book. I don't know if you realized. We haven't had any scouts screwing.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:09

I have not missed that wrinkly weird voice man.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

So, okay, before we go, I just have a few questions, uh, like one or two. One, do you think it was responsible of Dumbledore to let Lupin come to Hogwarts with this affliction? Knowing that what you know now about them sneaking around and like kind of circumventing what he had laid out for.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:30

I'm gonna still say yes, because you always know when the full moon's coming. And if you do escort him out, the Womping Wheel is a pretty safe, like fail-proof plan. Like if you want to go over there, it's gonna get you. I'm glad he took a chance on the student, and I would say it worked out like he's a professor now, like he's a great wizard, and he's even like making a mark of teaching students. Maybe these particular students, the trio, they're they're pretty traumatized right now, but like his other people are doing well, and Dumbledore just has this innate quality where he sees the good in people, or maybe he sees like their potential. I feel like it's like a power that he has.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:13

I love that.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:13

So I I would do it too.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:15

I love that. I love that. I love okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:18

Would you let Lupe in?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

I I would because I would be sympathetic to his because what other life would he be able to live then? Like he would just have to grow up in the muggle world or just not go to school at all and be homeschooled, then he would really maybe become a violent werewolf, because God forbid he would ever kill his parents if he broke free of his chains and then just you know, if you think about it, because then he would just have to grow up with his parents and then eventually he would become an adult werewolf and then maybe break free of his chains, kill his parents, go be out on the lamb killing other people. So I think this was a good. What other place would there be to have a werewolf child than at a magical school where you could uh put the proper place things in place to you know kind of raise him right or whatever? So I think it was a good call on Dominor's part. And kids will be kids, you what can you do? I had also what ammo do you think James Potter can turn into? And you said a prawn. So so some seafood, honey. So we'll see. Um, like you said, it could be uh crucial to what's coming up, and then maybe tiger. I can see that. Now, if so, if you if there were if the students saw a damn tiger running around at night on Hogwarts, they're like, what the fuck is going on at this school?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:21

There's no tigers in England. Okay, that was a stupid answer.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Child, maybe it came from India, child. The Bengal tiger, you know, the a sheep?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:29

Well, some sort of cattle.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:31

All right, well, we'll we'll circle back on that. And lastly, what animal would you turn into? What animal would you like to turn into if you could, and then what animal do you think you would turn into? This goes back to what you're saying earlier.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:42

Like, yeah, I would say a regular wolf.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:45

You would like to turn into a regular wolf.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:47

Regular schmuggler, not gonna kill anyone in the full moon, but like I want to travel in a pack, I wanna be part of the community, I wanna be protected, I wanna have like my feminine divine.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

Would you want to be the leader of the pack?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:04

Never that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:06

I knew that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:07

I will fly the community.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

I love that. Okay, I love that. Okay, and then what animal do you think you would turn into if it was just an automatic, like essence or spirit animal type thing? Or it could be the same answer.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:19

A deer. I'm very connected to deer, so I wouldn't be surprised if I was adult.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:26

I love that. I love that. Adult.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:27

How about you?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:28

Ooh, what animal would I like to turn into? Something flying. I don't know. I don't want to go drag. That's pretty very big. I would like to say Phoenix. I would like to say Phoenix or Dragon. I know those are mythical animals, but if not, and what animal do I think I would turn into just outright? As an essence. Maybe a fox.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:49

I like that. Yeah, maybe a fox.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

Yeah. Okay, we are just about out of time. So let's wrap this baby up right here. This chapter was only nine pages. I don't know how long the audiobook recording was, but here we are at another hour-long episode. What are you gonna do? The next chapter is back to its old 20-page length episode. So we'll be here for a while for the next one. But thank you guys so much for listening to another episode of Harry Sorry I'm Late, a Harry Potter podcast. This time we came on to discuss Harry Potter and the Preserve S-Band, chapter 18, when you were with Tail Pathway promise. Leave us a five-star review over on Apple Podcasts. If you enjoyed listening to us, follow us over on Harry Sorry, I'm late on Instagram or send us to the listener email at Harry Sor I'm Late Podcast at Gmail.com. But until next time, I'm Coda.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:28

That's a tutti. Buona notte. And I'm Alicia.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

Chay Alice, come on, child.