Madam Pomfrey’s Last Straw | Prisoner of Azkaban

We're Back to Discuss Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Chapter 20 The Dementor's Kiss and Chapter 21 Hermione's Secret! Professor Snape, Hermione & Madam Pomfrey are all crashing out in this chapter and they’re all valid and Harry Potter, the boy who lived is at the root of it all, because of course he is! 

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Harry, Sorry I’m Late follows two childhood friends reading, discussing & diving deep into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter for the first time. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Harry Star and Lata Harry Potter Podcast. It's me, Coda.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

And it's me, Alicia.

SPEAKER_02 0:10

And today we are here for the penultimate recap episode of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Askaban. We are here to discuss Harry Potter and the Prisoner Ascoban. Chapter 20, The Dementor's Kiss, and Chapter 21, Her Mighty Secret, and what a secret it was indeed. Miss Mama's was time traveling throughout the galaxy and all over the place. And it all comes out in this chapter to our benefit because we got some godfathers to save and some birdie bird birds to save and things to fix and dementors to scare off and realizations and just everything was happening in these past two chapters. So we're really excited to get onto it. But before we do that, well, Alicia, let me first ask you, what were your thoughts on these two chapters as we close out Prisoner Basketball? That's someone reading it for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

I mean, Hermione got the secrets, like move over chambers, because Hermione has it right now. I I thought that was really, really a good little twist. I feel very vindicated in my prediction earlier in this season. We'll talk about that. What else? The Dementor's Kiss, ew, disgusting. Glad that Harry is safe, because that the whole series could have ended right there. And then the Godfather exchange was so sweet. And my favorite part was when Snape was knocked out and he kept getting his head knocked left and right, left and right, his bob, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, through the tunnels. That was my favorite part.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Sirius saw that happening. He said, Chow, anyways, it'll be alright. He said, and that's what you get for being nosy. You can wake up with a little, a little a knot in your head.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

A knot in the bob.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

I'm excited to hear your thoughts on these two chapters and kind of like for us to discuss this culmination, so to speak, before we get to the final chapter next week. But before we get into it, Alicia, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Good. I had a pretty jam-packed week. Like we kind of took like a little break, which was nice. We missed y'all, obviously. But I went to Love Island watch party with two of my cousins and my sister. I've really never seen the show, and so season premiere, we're watching it. Have you ever seen Love Island?

SPEAKER_02 2:20

No, I can't do romance shows.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

It's it's not romance. This is pornography on film. I was shocked. I was shocked. Also, the first eight minutes, if you ever watch it, is a musical montage, which can be described as a humiliation ritual. It sounds like some AI pop music that you have all the girls and boys lip sync to, and they're one of the girls doing like splits on a Jeep in a thong. Another one is like swimming and lifting, and I was just like, what is happening? It went on for so long, but the event itself was fun. And then later on in the week, I ended up meeting like I feel like my boyfriend's whole bloodline in one day, and we actually spent like eight hours together, and it was really fun. And I left there thinking, like, damn, I felt like I was hanging out with my family because we were playing charades, we were like cutting up, and I it was like a very wholesome way to end the week. And work has been busy, but very, very good to me. I'm happy. How are you doing? I know that was that was a lot of words.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

No, I love that. I love that for you. Yeah, I'm doing okay. Some words in full effect for me at this point. My classes are going well, work is working, and I'm finding out that my Saturn isn't in its Saturn return, so to speak. And with that comes some interesting developments in my life. I'm not gonna put all my business out there, child, but for some reason, love is just in the air for me. I feel like, was it in the last book where that Cupid was trying to give Harry his his love letter from a genny or something like that? I feel like that's me. Like the Cupid is just chasing me down, trying to give me my love letter because people are coming out of the woodworks trying to get your boys' attention. And I've given them a little something.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

You gotta give the people what they want, Coda.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Just exactly, exactly. So we'll see how that develops. But in the meantime, in between time, yeah, I'm also doing a little day in the life vlog of what it looks like to record this episode right now. So you guys are gonna be seeing that on the Instagram if you haven't already. It's gonna be over on Harry Sarum late on our Instagram. So you're gonna see me at the start of my day, all the way to the point of us recording this episode right now and the post-production and everything. So go over to our Instagram to check that out. Um and it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be cute. And yeah, but overall, I'm good. I'm excited to finish off this book and eventually move on to the next one down the road. Um, but yeah, yeah. So I'm doing good. I'm doing good. And I'm excited to be back with you. Yeah, I felt like that our week break was needed as a little preview of our longer break that we're gonna be taking before we start Goplood of Fire. But yeah, it was nice, and yeah. Oh, and I will say we did just celebrate our one-year anniversary.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Yay!

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Yes, yes, literally last week, um last Wednesday, or let's let me get the date right. June 3rd would have been our one year anniversary of posting episodes. And I texted you jokingly saying that it would be just like us to take off that week. I'm just like, child, well, we hit a year, we deserve a little week break. And then yeah, it's I felt like that's a really great big accomplishment for like a creative podcast with two friends. Like, I don't know, some like no shade, but some podcasts start and stop before anything can even like happen or take off, or you know, for whatever reason. But for us to not finish one, two, and almost three books in the seven book series and then be consistent for the most part every week and continue to grow our listenership and really hit our stride in terms of how we're like discussing the chapters and our techno, technological, like technical equipment and just everything.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

I'm even thinking back on our earlier days when the Wi-Fi, the internet was just fucking us over and we're like I already interrupt Coda enough, but then with the Wi-Fi lag, it literally like every word I was saying was way on top of your words. And I was just like, I cannot listen back to this because I feel like such an asshole. But thankfully that kind of got sorted. I still have the ADHD part of me that just like jumps and I gotta calm it down. I need to start drinking like chamomile tea before we record or something, like I gotta calm it down. But I'm glad that the Wi-Fi stuff is not a problem anymore. And hopefully, as listeners, if you guys have stuck around with us because the wheels were falling off, I I just want to say I love you. I appreciate you. And we're just very thankful.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Yeah, shout out to our day one listeners who have been consistently listening every week and eagerly anticipating each and every episode. Um, we appreciate that. And yeah, so make sure to leave us a five-star review letting us know your Harry Saram Late podcast journey when you started listening, if you've been enjoying the episodes, all the things we'd really appreciate it. And uh, when we do our next Hogwarts Hang episode after we're done prisoner aspin, we'll look back on a few moments that we really have enjoyed or remember fondly from our time so far. But now, without further ado, we got some business to take care of. It's been a while. So, Alicia, are you ready for a whiz quiz?

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

So, this is going to be for Harry Potter and the Prisoners of Askaban, chapter 21, Hermione's Secret. I just have five questions for you. All right. Question number one: how many turns of the time turner did Dumbledore suggest to Hermione?

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Three turns for Hermione.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Three turns is correct. Who gifted Hermione the Time Turner at the start of term for her to use for her studies and extra coursework?

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Professor McGonagall gifted Hermione Time Turner.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Yes, that is correct. Now, how many hours back in time did Harry and Hermione go?

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I want to say three. Is this a trick question?

SPEAKER_02 8:20

No.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

No, no, to three?

SPEAKER_02 8:23

No, no, it's not it's not a quick it's not a trick question.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Oh, okay. Wow. I love that we're getting remedial. Thank you. I've been waiting for this.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

Now, what month and day was Buckbeak's execution to take place?

SPEAKER_01 8:39

This I know, June 6th.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Yes, yes, yes. And finally Okay, I trust you, I believe in you. What's about did Hermione use to break open Ceres' makeshift prison cell at Hogwarts?

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Can you please repeat the question?

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Yes, what's about did her mind used to open Ceres' prison cell at Hogwarts when they're trying to free him with Buckbeak? It starts with an A. Hermani's used it before to unlock a door.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Apparatus.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

Let me add it. Okay, okay, it's okay. Spells are hard, spells are hard. It is aloha mora. Oh, and that is the unlocking spell to unlock any lock.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Aloha mora.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Alright, four out of five, four out of five. We'll take it. We'll take it. Good job, good job.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

All right, now, without further ado, it's been long enough. Let's go on and get right on into Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Ascoband, chapter 20, The Dementor's Kiss. So we start the chapter off with Harry thinking to himself how odd of a group he was a part of leaving the Shrieking Shack. We have his two besties running her money, two Hawkers professors, one of them being a werewolf, one of them ugly and unconscious. Don't even have to say that person's name, a rat turned man, and then his godfather slash prison convict escapee, plus a magical cat in crook shank. So there's just a lot going on in this little party troop that we got going on. Um, as they exit the tunnel, an unconscious Snape is like floating along and he keeps bumping his head against the low ceiling. And Harry notices that Sirius notices that Snape's side is bumping along and he did nothing to prevent it. And honestly, mood. So in a private moment, Sirius talks to Harry about what it would mean to turn Peter Pettigrew in and have his name cleared. And as Harry's godfather, Harry could come and stay with Sirius and leave Privilege Drive and the rotten dear seas forever. This this whole moment just like so sweet. So Harry's like flummoxed at the idea at first, having to ask like some follow-up questions. And this makes Sirius doubt if his proposal like was even appropriate or whatever. And before Harry's like, no, no, no, no, like bitch, wait a minute. It's like, is this even a question? Like, absolutely, like, where do you stay at? When can I move in? Like, you could live underneath the bridge on the Lincoln in the Lincoln Tunnel, some shit. Like, I don't know, like, let's go, anything if I can just be with you and away from the Dirseys. So I just love this so much.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Me too. Like, I've lived under the stairs. Like, I will go to the woods with you. You want to be a dog? I'll be a puppy. Like, what you got for me? Take me to the outbound ticket from the Dursleys. Like, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yes, absolutely. So, this warmed Sirius's heart so much to hear how much Harry was like excited to live with him potentially. So, Sirius smiled for the first time, and Harry noticed that this smile resembled the man that Harry had seen in his parents' wedding pictures all those years ago. So, I love that. I love that moment for them. So, Harry has a Harry has you know me. I get all emotional when I'm talking about I think about Harry and his orphanage and no having no parents. So for Harry to now have this relative, this godfather, this connection to his parents right next to him with the potential of a future together. I just it I love it. I love it for him.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

So it's really sweet. Like at first, when Hagrid entered the scene, book one, I was like, could this be a father father figure? But the way he'd be swinging that drink down, no way. And do we have a convict of 12 years stepping up to the plate? Well, yes, but I think it's okay. It's a little rough, but it's it's okay. Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

I'm sure once he's fully exonerated, he cleans up a little bit, he will be the perfect guardian for Harry. But you just gotta have a whack haggard a little bit, didn't you, chat? Of course. At least it's I wanna edit this book without whacking haggard, chat. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

But now it makes me think back to the Magnolia crest of it all because Sirius Black as a dog was just watching over Harry. And that was Harry's worst moment, his lowest point when he left Aunt Marge's house. And he could see, like, oh no, Harry's like running away. I don't he probably didn't have all that context, but he was looking after Harry in some fashion.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

He's like, What is my godson doing on the middle of the street all alone by himself?

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Like you selling? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_02 13:09

That's that's oh Lord. Okay, so after some more walking with Kirk Chance leading the way, they finally made it out of the Shrieking Shack tunnel, out of the Wamping Willow, and back up to the surface of Hogwarts where night had fully fallen. So Lupin reminds, but like actually more so threatens Peter Pettigrew with his wand that one wrong move and he'd go bye-bye. But in the next moment, this is where everything goes wrong. A cloud shifted, revealing a full moon, bright light right onto the party, and most horribly onto Professor Lupin, the werewolf. So Snape, Pettigrew, Ron, Lupin, they all collide and bump into each other because remember, like Ron and Lupin are like tied to Peter Pettigrew to make sure they don't get away. And then Lupin casts the spell on Snape to keep him floating. So once he started transforming, that kind of broke the spell. So it's just a mess. So Lupin's body goes rigid before beginning to shake. Hermione, noting how Lupin did not take his wolf spin potion tonight, as Snape had mentioned, because he was bringing it to the classroom to give to him. So Sears, knowing what's about to happen next, tells Harry and Hermione to run, but Harry refuses as Ron is chained to Peter Pettigrew and to Lupin, and he's trying to like go help his friend get free, but Sears pulls Harry back, saying he'd take care of it. So now Professor Lupin is fully turning into a world right before our eyes. Like it's it's not a pretty sight. For my Cenophiles, think about the movie An American World from London, a really good movie type transformation. Like, just like you know, very physical, very painful transformation, hunch shoulder, limbs lengthening, hair going everywhere, fingernails stretching, jaw widening, just is not a pretty sight. So, yeah, it's so Sears now turns into his big wolf dog and Magus in an attempt to kind of rear Lupin in, like he did when they were back at Harvard together. The werewolf and the dog are now going at it, ripping and clawing at each other, and Harry's just looking on as this happens. But it was Hermione's scream that pulled Harry's attention away as Peter Pettigrew had dived and gotten Lupin's dropped wand, knocking Ron over, you know, because he's on a wounded leg. So in the next moment, Peter Pettigrew with a burst of light and a bang directed at Ron causes him to go motionless on the ground. Ron is off of the count, and then with another, oh, another bang, he flings Crookshanks into the air.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

He just had to do that just because.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Yes, I feel like Peter said, You rotten bitch, you've been tormenting me all year in my rap form. I need to get my lick back. Fuck ass cat.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

But to do it to Ron, whose entire bloodline has been feeding you for the last 12. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

That is a great point. That just goes to show you Peter's character and that he obviously didn't mean anything he was said in the streaking shack about, oh, I've been your rap for all this time and all that bullshit. Like he's just looking out for himself. Because how what do you mean, like the person that, like he said, has been caretaking for you all this time, you're gonna like put him in harm's way and literally like attack him? Like, you didn't have to do that. So that's really fucked up. Shameful. Can't trust a rap. So so Harry, of course, being quick with it, he cast Expelly Armor's spell, which is a disarming spell with its own one, and that disarms Peter uh Peter Pettigrew, but unfortunately, not quick enough as Peter Pettigrew was able to transform back into his fuck ass rap form and escape into the grass. So he's in the wind now. So all that worked for nothing. And of course, we need Peter to be apprehended and be shown to be alive to kind of clear Sirius's name, so it's just a whole bunch of implications there. We'll figure that out down the line. But for now, he's gone. So it's unfortunate. So Harry turns his attention to the other animals on the scene, the dog and the werewolf. But Lupin the Werewolf now takes off into the forest, followed by a bloodied and bruised Sirius in his dog form. Now Harry and Hermione go over to Ron, who was in this dazed state, and he's not really recognizing them. But thankfully he's still alive at least. So that's good. Now, with Lupin and Sirius gone and Snape's still unconscious, Harry decides they need to get back to the castle and get help. But then Harry hears in the distance, Sirius is yelping out in pain, and Harry has to decide in this moment what to do. And knowing that there was nothing that they could do for Ron in this moment, and at least that he's he was alive, he decides to take off after Sirius's godfather and Hermione follows suit, which I feel like was a fair thing to do. Like our friend Ron, he likes he's alive, he's down for the count, but he's alive, he's good. Let's go try to help them more pertinent matter in Sirius.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

So and at this point, can you clarify? Are they in the tunnel?

SPEAKER_02 17:17

No, they're out of the tunnel, they're kind of like right outside of the Womping Willow, maybe a little bit away from it, because you know it'll be woo moving and swinging its branches, but like a little bit away from the Womping Willow. Okay. At this point, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just a mess. Yeah, so they go off into the forbidden forest after Cirrus and they arrive at the lake. And they felt this familiar cold, and they were stopped dead in their tracks as they looked at an untransformed human Cirrus, and he's crouched on the floor pleading no, as not one, not two, but at least one hundred dementors and a huge black mask are making their way towards Cirrus and towards Harry and Hermione. Like, I'm thinking like the vigil is like a crow a flock of like birds or crows or whatever, like on the sky, just like all like descending on to Sirius. Cause this has been their job at Hardworth's the whole time. Like, once you find Sirius Black on Hogwarts grounds, you go for him. So, like, this is what they've been waiting all year for, and they're like, Oh, we're we're feasting tonight.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

So, yeah. Yeah, I'd just be like, Where's the gun? Like, I'm taking myself out. That's too much going on. Especially like this is midnight, like we're already at the witchy hour. And we're by the the water, like, oh my god, I'm sick.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

With with the black, ghoulish, cloaked figures all descending upon you. No, take me now. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

With no lips, they just have like a mouth, weird, a gaped mouth is what I think what they're described as. Uh, it's just so grimy.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Yeah. So Harry tells Hermione to think of something happy as he starts to feel that horrible feeling of that icy cold in his body. Fog is starting to obscure his vision, and the faint sound of his mother's screams are like in his head. So that same feeling that we were having at the beginning of this story is now coming back. And again, that's it's one thing if it's one dementa or maybe two, but a hundred, it's like amplifying all the feelings. It's like really not a good feeling, I can imagine. So Harry starts to think about Sirius and only Sirius and how he's going to live with him and leaves the fuck at Zerzley's. And though he can see Sirius being sworn by the Dementors and distance, he thinks to himself how Cersei is going to be okay and that he will get to live with him. And Harry starts to chant Expecto Patronum, even exclaiming for Hermione to help him with the spell as well. Granted, she doesn't really know it and hasn't probably been taught it, like Harry has, but it, you know, anything helps at this point. Like, just say the say the fuck is it.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

She's a quick learner.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Yeah, no, literally, she's a quick learner. Like, she'll pick it up. So Hermione's trying, she's trying, but you know, it's hard as the dementia are all around and they're closing in on all of them at this point. So Harry's yelling, expect a patronum at this point, with him getting very little traction, with a thin little wispy silver coming from his wand, but it's just not strong enough in this moment. And at this moment, he feels Hermione next to him collapse and pass out. So now Harry's completely alone. Ugh, not good. So Harry's knees collapse him to the ground. Fog is like now fully clouding his eyes, and with his last effort, thinking of how Sirius is innocent and that they'll be okay, and that he's going to live with him. And one more expecto patrona. Now, as a dementa approaches and is an arms reach away from Harry, it halts in front of him and it swipes his dead, slimy hand out in front of Harry in an attempt to swipe away Harry's feeble, formless Patronus that's in front of him. Now, the Dementor then proceeds to take off its hood. Oh boy. You know, when dementiers take off their hood, that's when they're about to perform the dementa's uh kiss. Not a good sight. And it's described as looking like where there should have been eyes. There's only thin gray scabbed skin stretched over the eye sockets. But there was a gaping mouth that was just sucking the air with the sound of a death rattle, which I don't even know what it sounds like, but I can imagine it sounds good.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Maybe like a rattlesnake.

unknown 20:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

When before it kills you.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

Yeah. I did have it in my notes. Alicia, I'm gonna text you a picture of what a dementia looks like so we can get a live reaction on the pod.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

This sounds pleasant.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

One moment. And this is just one illustration or one.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Oh fuck no! Ew. One hundred of these.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Sucking the life out of you.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Wow. Okay, now I really do understand like the depression, like even like suicidal parallels. Yeah. Because if that's around you, yeah. Wow. And again, the embodiment of despair.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Yes. And again, as witches and wizards, obviously they can see these dementors, but in the muggle world, the dementors are present, but we just can't or muggles just can't see them. So think sometimes, you know, people that are going through depression or mental health. Episodes or whatever, there may be dementors around them, like sucking and just like, but is you know, so it's just something it's a good imagery of like what it may feel like to be in those states.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

So, and even people say, like, y'all, I'm fighting demons right now, I'm fighting my battles, and it's spiritual battles too.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Literally, so that's a dementa for you, ass. Okay, so thank you for that live reaction. So that side of the Dementor's face was enough to fill Harry with such a paralyzing terror that his already weak Patronus protection flickered and died. So now he was like completely left defenseless. So the only thing he can do at this point, now that his Patronus protection has flickered and died out, was reach out for his godfather, Sirius. So he finds Sirius' hand in an attempt to prevent the Dementors from taking his godfather. But the Dementor said, Bitch, we've waited long enough, damn near a whole school year to find and get this man, and they yeet Harry into the air by his neck. And Harry could smell the Dementor's funky, deadly breath, hear his mother's screams, blinded by the fog. Just it's not looking good for Harry at this moment. But then he sees a blinding, silvery light in the distance, and he falls back to the ground. The screaming fades. The Dementor's cold presence is now leaving. Something was driving the Dementors back. Something was circling around Harry, serious and hermione, causing the Dementors to flee and bringing warmth back to the air. With all of his remaining strength, Harry tries to sit up and see what had saved him. He sees an animal in the light galloping away, perhaps a unicorn. Harry sees it cross a lake and come to a halt at the shore as if being welcomed back by his center. For a moment, Harry thinks he sees someone strangely familiar, but thinks to himself it couldn't be. Physically and mentally exhausted from this terrifying ordeal, the last of Harry's strength leaves him, his head hidden in the ground as he passes away. But not like pass away. More so fake. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Tomatoes, tomatoes.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Bad joke, bad joke to the land, joke to the land. It's okay, it's okay. And that is the end of Harry Potter and Prisoner of Escan. Chapter 20, The Adventure's Kiss. It was a very short chapter. It had a good amount of action in it, but it was very brief. I think it was like seven or eight pages. The audio side, did you listen to this chapter? How long was it? Like 15, 20 minutes?

SPEAKER_01 24:12

It was 12 minutes and like 15 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

Yeah, so very quick chapter.

unknown 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

I think the next one was like 43 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yeah. But what were your thoughts on this chapter overall? It's a very quick one. Obviously, like shit went down at the beginning with Peter Pettigrew escaping, Lupin turning into a werewolf, them having to leave Ron behind, them going after Sirius, or the mentors coming, and everyone being passed off by the end of the chapter. It was, yeah. Yes, like the pre-class.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

It was pretty consistent with events in Harry's lives. Like he has these really high highs and like such low lows. And then a high again at the end. So like his high was, oh my God, I have a daddy, like a godfather. And then the low is like, oh shit, he's about to die in front of my eyes. And then it's like, wait, I can kind of save him. Wait, who is this in the distance trying to help us? And so it's like all whirlwind. Harry's truly had like a crazy, even like a crazy, like past four hours. So much has happened. And I mean, he's still kicking, so let's see where he goes.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Let's see where he goes indeed. Let's just go, let's not, let's not waste any time. Let's go ahead and jump right on into the next chapter. The juicy chapter where it's just going down and we're going back in time, but we'll get there in a second. Let's jump right down into Harry Potter and Prison of Ascaban. Chapter 21, Hermione.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Alright, so this next chapter does jump ahead with a conversation between Cornelius Fudge, the Minister of Magic, and Professor Snape. Fudge tells Snape it was shocking business that the kids were still alive and that they were so very lucky that Snape was there. And he thanks Snape for his contributions. Confetti. Fudge then takes no Fudge then takes notice of a cut he sees on Snape's arm, and he assumes that Sirius Black was responsible for this, but Snape blames the students. Ron Weasley, Hermione Granger, and Harry Flucking Potter. He says that they were under Sirius' bewitching spell called the Confundus Charm. The lies that you tell, Snape Diana. To think basically, he's saying that Sirius Black had that charm in order to have the kids think that he was innocent, so they were like acting kind of crazy or deranged. We'll see that later in the chapter. Snape says, you know, they're not necessarily responsible for what they did, but they were probably the reason why Black escaped in the first place. These kids thought that they could catch them on their own, and they're always trying to get away with so much. And that Potter has always had so much leadway with headmaster Dumbledore. Cornelius concedes and says, Well, I think we all have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Harry Potter. I know Snape was like, everyone but me, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Right, like for Snape to be like snitching on Dumbledore and saying, like, oh yeah, like that master is very biased towards this one student. Like, I don't know, this whole beginning part. Like, Snapchat, like, you're a real if I was Dumpler, I will I don't know, like obviously now you wouldn't be able to fire him, but just like you fucking, oh, like his his hatred for Harry slash Harry's father is like coming out in full form in this chapter. Like, we'll get into it, but it's a mess.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Like, Dumble, snatch the Bob. Snatch it.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Dumplower is ready to whack him in a moment. We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

We'll get to that. Snape pushes back and says, Is that really what's best for the boy? Like, should we really have kids, kid gloves for him? If we treat him like every other student, it'll probably be better for his well-being. I know I treated him like every other student. Lie number two, you treat him so bad.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Worth right.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Snape treats Harry like dog shit, and he treats Hermione like Mierda. Same shit. So, and then Snape was kind of like, you know, maybe he should be punished for always leading his bandits into danger, especially when this school has gone above and beyond to make sure that he's safe. They have all these precautions for him. Point one. Point one on the board for Snape. He he has a little point.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Right. Just a little one.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Snape then lists off some of the things that Harry has done very recently, including gone off school property at night without permission. He has consulted with an alleged murderer in murderer in Sirius Black, consulted with a werewolf. Babe, that's your coworker. Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Like you just found out. Well, I guess he'd been here as a werewolf, but like, please stop acting like Professor Lupa has like been doing anything werewolf-related all this time. Like, stop it. Like, please. If anything, Lupo was giving Harry Potronis lessons. Like, stop playing.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Exactly. And then finally, Snape says, and I suspect he's been illegally visiting Hogs Meade.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Suspect, bitch, you don't got no proof. Like, stop it.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Yeah, all of these things are true.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

So there's that.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

So Cornelius, I don't think Cornelius is really feeling this conversation. Snape can be very overwhelming to the nervous system. Cornelius simply replies, we will see. But yes, the boy has been foolish. He leaves it at that.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

You are right though. Sorry, you are right though in the fact that we are gaslighting the hell out of Snape in terms of like everything he is saying is true. And he does have some points when it comes to Harry's behavior and stuff. But because of the way he treats Harry and the way he's going about it, like I we just can't be on board. Like you're a fucking hater. So no, yes, you are lying in our eyes when it comes to all the stuff you're saying about Harry. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Fuck you, but you are correct. Harry, who is now in the hospital wing, obviously, starts to come too, and he laid slightly awake listening to this entire conversation. But instead of listening it to like in a normal-pace way, he's still coming too. So the words that they're saying, he's not really catching everything, and it just sounds like a little bit foggy and mumbled. Cornelius points out that the behavior of the Dementors was really different to him. He called it outstanding. He asked Snape, do you know why they might have retreated the way that they did? Snape says, No, I just know that I saw them go back to their original positions or I saw them retreat. Snape said that when he was able to be free, right? Or if he woke up, he tied up Sirius Black, he conjured stretchers for the trio and got everyone back to Hogwarts Incorporated. At this point, Harry opens his very heavy eyelids. Someone had taken his glasses off, and we know this man can't see. But he could kind of make out Madame Pomfrey over in the corner, and she was attending to a redheaded friend named Ron Weasley. Thank God he's alive. I was a little concerned. Harry could see an awake and scared Hermione staring at him. She motioned him to be quiet and pointed to the slightly open door where Snape and Cornelius were having their conversation. Madame Pomphrey comes over with the biggest chocolate Harry had ever seen. She has good news. Ron will be okay, but he will be here for a while, just like they will. But Potter was ready to skedaddle. He grabbed his wand, he's like, Let me grab my glasses, I'll take a chocolate for the road. Gotta blast. He's basically like, I'm off to see the wizard, mama, I gotta go. She tells him, Absolutely not. Don't worry about that. Any moment now, the dementors will be giving serious block upstairs. They're kiss. Dumbledore will be there. He knows, like, we're we're okay, like you're safe. Harry and Hermani now both get up because they're like, No, no, this is not what I want.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

This is uh what? Like, what the fuck do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 32:29

They were like waking up like all in a daze and then it's like back to 100 again. Their life is crazy. And Harry yelped, what? And that caused Snape and Cornelius to enter the hospital room to check on them. What's this, Harry? Eat your chocolate, stay in bed, said the Ministry of Magic. No, no, I can't. Sirius is innocent. Peter Pettigrew faked his death. We saw him. You can't let Sirius go down for this. You can't, you can't. Cornelius says, Ah, Papa, you're confused. Lay down. Night, night, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Harry is crashing out. He's like, Y'all are about to kill my goddaddy. Absolutely the fuck not. Like, I need to see that master right now. Like, get me out of this motherfucking hospital.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

Like, we are talking about my livelihood, my well-being for the next seven.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

This is my freedom for perfect drive. Hell no. I need to see him right now.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

I ain't going back, mama. But Hermione says, I saw him too. Ron's rat is an Anamagus. Snake is like, oh my gosh, do you see it, Cornelius? Black has done dark magic on the babies.

SPEAKER_04 33:36

Hey, please.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Harry's like, we are not confounded. At this point, Madame Pompari steps in as security of the hospital ward and tries to kick out Snape and Fudge for causing the young ones distress. Harry is still on window and he says, I am not distressed, madam. They just need to listen to me. But she shoves a big ass piece of chocolate in his mouth and gets him to lay his ass down. Finally, Daddy Dumbledore enters the room. Hey, Daddy. Harry immediately gets up to tell him about it.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

As a Dumbledore arrives and Harry's like, Thank you, the man that I was looking for, the man that I know I can trust to like save the day. Like, yes, Dumbledore is here.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

The man, the myth, the legend, the wizard, my savior. I love you. Harry immediately gets up to tell Dumbledore about Sirius Black, but Pomfrey pops off. This is not the club. It's the hospital. No visitors after hours, Papa. But Dumbledore insists he needs to speak with them. He just got back from visiting Sirius Black. Yes, he must have told you that same story he implemented in the kid's mind, says Snape. Something about a rat and Peter Pettigrew being alive. Does my evidence in this whole thing not count for anything? Because Snape was knocked out for so long, so he didn't see the transformation back to human from Peter. And based on Snape's story, he does have like real evidence of Sirius is the person that's responsible.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

And he was like, I never saw a rat dumble door. Hermione squeaks, that's because you were knocked the fuck out.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

By us, bitch. The three triple fours, like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Like, uh, you to be so loud and wrong in this moment, like you just oh okay, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Snape, who is always so gracious towards any woman in the room, especially a young woman in the room, turns to Hermione and says, Bitch, shut the fuck up. Cornelia says, Oh, it's okay, Snape. Hermione is just deranged. Another sexist term in the medical industry. Get the fuck out of my Pompey's Pompey's room. Number door proves he is that girl. Because he tells Snape, Fudge, and even Madame Pompey herself, love to see y'all, but you gotta go. The nurse threw a little bit of a small fit because how are you gonna kick me out of my office? Wow. The nurse.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Y'all send these kids to me every other time to get injured, whether it's on the quitting failed, uh what's it called? Apologies, potion, mishaps, teachers doing fuck shit, Baltimore attacking this chosen boy 10 million times. Any other time y'all need me to heal up one of your motherfucking shitty ass kids. Y'all send them my way and I do it with no complaints. The one time I asked for y'all to leave so y'all I can have the time I need to heal these kids up, you telling me that I need to leave the damn hospital war so you can have your little chit chat. Bitch, say less. School years about be over. Don't expect to see me back here again next school year, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Absolutely. Because I was before you started talking, I was like, when does she put in the two weeks? And it could be two minutes at this point.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Trust the medical professionals. This is like COVID all over again. Motherfuckers not wanting to listen to medical advice and medical professionals and just doing whatever the fuck they want.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

And now there's a new attendee named JFK in here. Oh, hell no. Get this kid out of my glass. Okay, okay, back to the story. Back to the story. Where are we? Yeah, so how are you gonna kick the nurse out, but she leaves? Cornelia says, Pish pasta, the mentor should be here now anyway, so I need to go upstairs. I'll see you up there, Dumbledore. Snape, who could not catch a vibe if you place it in his hands, stay put.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Imagine the headmaster telling you, you need to leave. I need a moment with these students, and you say, I'm gonna stand right the fuck here. Bob swinging. Bob swinging, Audacity all 10. Oh, and Dumbledore's about a tear on top. Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Snape tells Dumbledore, I know you don't think this man is innocent. Do you not remember his murderous capabilities he showed the world at 16? Did you happen to forget this?

SPEAKER_02 38:07

Call him old as he now. He said Joe Biden who.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

I thought I was gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

Sorry, Joe. Dumbledore looks at Snape like the bottom of his shoe. And he says, Nah, actually, this memory is as good as ever, mama. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord splits you. And Snape and Babiana left. Finally.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Finally.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Alright, now it's on. The kids, they know that they have limited time and they're talking miles a minute. Temple Drew, you don't have to understand. Rat, Marcus, all this stuff. He's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. He's like, babes, wrap it up. It's me. I know things, you know. I understand, but we need proof. And no offense to you guys, but two 13-year-olds, their accounts mean nothing in this world. And then your one ally is currently a wolf right now, werewolf right now. And even if he did come back, we know how this town feels about the werewolves. They don't care. That would actually be worse for Sirius Black. And Lupin and Sirius Black were best friends as kids, so they could just say he's covering for his innocence. I need solid proof because right now Snape's story is way better than nothing. And you guys forgot that all those years ago, I had to go on trial for Sirius Black, and I had to write in a statement to the Ministry of Magic saying that I knew that Sirius Black was the Potter's secret keeper. So, like, that's all part of the evidence that he wants to kill you, Gary. Plus, when Sirius did get out of prison, the fat lady was not safe. He tried to tear her ass up.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Yes, he says the way that Sirius has been acting this whole damn school year does not give innocent. From like, like he said, at the school with a knife, breaking into Hogwarts, attacking the fat lady, standing over Ron's bed, like being seen around town. Like he's giving he didn't even take the time to clean it up his appearance or anything. He's still got his damn property, prison robes, like it's not like looking at the hair shaggy, like it's not giving innocent at all. Like your godfather is not doing anything to help his case. So, like, y'all gotta come up with something.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Like, even the cast of love after lockout, they do a little one-two in the bathroom. This man is just looking deranged.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

I think the name of Miss Juicy, can you come up with something else? Because y'all just speak in right now, it's not helping. It's not giving.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

It's juicy, baby. I think Madame Pomfrey and the fat lady need to go on like a strong holiday bender together.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

I would love that.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

And and who's the lady of the night? Not the lady, the lady of the drinks.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Oh, Madame Reserve, Madame Rasmertev.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

They'll pick her up on the way. Okay, so back to the story. So Dumbledore is like, listen, guys, I do not really have the power to overrule the minister of magic. I need proof. What we need, and now he turns to Hermione exclusively, is more time. She's like, what? And he's like, pay attention, Patricia. Sirius Black is locked away on the 13th window to the right of the West Tower. If everything goes well, we'll be able to save more than one innocent life. But you must not be seen. Hermani, you know the drill. You know the law. Harry's looking around like, what the fuck? This is not time to be speaking in prose. What are we saying right now?

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Harry's like, bitch, I'm the chosen one. Like, what you need to fill me in. Like, what's going on? Like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 42:00

CC me. CC me, the chosen one.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

A little insider secret here.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

And Dumbledore gets up to leave. Before he does, he says, All right, students, it is 11:55 p.m. Her mining, three times shall do it. I'm locking you in now. Harry's like, What is going on? But she was too busy trying to find her golden chain. It was at the bottom of her bag. She found this long golden chain with a sparkly hourglass hanging from it. She takes one part of the chain, puts it around her neck, another part around Harry's neck. She starts saying, Do you chain halo? Do you have a fucking stupid? She turns the hourglass three separate times, and it felt like Harry all of a sudden was flying backwards with colors and shapes following his path. And then, bam, he was on solid ground again. This time he was at a deserted entrance hall, and Hermione ushered him in to the nearest broom closet. Hermione, we don't have time for that. That was a stupid joke. I'll sort this out.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

No, no, I didn't, I didn't. It took me a second. It took me a second. I was like, wait.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Hermione then tells, look confused, Harry, that they have gone back three hours in time. She says, someone is coming. It's gotta be us. She heard footsteps and said, Yes, we're going down to Hogwarts. Harry's like, wait, what? You're telling me that we're here and we're also there? She's like, Yes. It sounds like three people walking slowly, and I think they're walking slowly because they have the invisibility cloak on. It's definitely us. All right, listeners, let's go back. We're gonna go we're gonna go back ourselves to the first day of classes when Hermione Granger had. A private meeting with Professor McGonagall.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

In that meeting, Hermione was gifted this item, the turn turntable.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Time turning time.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Time turning. The time turning. And that's how she was able to go to all those damn lessons. She kept turning back time and kept her grades in the present. There were some rules, including the most important, she was sworn to secrecy. Okay. Now let's go back to the present. Well, let's go back three hours from where we kind of were.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

So she knows how to use the timetable, but doesn't know. No?

SPEAKER_03 44:45

It's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. Time table.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

It's like a turn back time. Okay. But she doesn't know what Dumbledore really needs. Like, how is this helpful for Sirius' innocence? We're back three hours. What does this mean? And Harry goes, Well, what happened now that he needs us to change? And and then they're like, Well, this is around the time where we went to Hagrid's to say goodbye to Bucksbeak. Harry goes, Holy shit, Granger. We're going to save Buckbeak's life. That's what Dumbledore meant by saying, if you do this, you can save more than one innocent life. Hermione's looking at him, she is terrified because how are they gonna sneak this? Like, Buckbeak is not a Peter Petunia rat. Like, this is a humongous animal.

SPEAKER_04 45:36

Big bird.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

There's like barely a gate to cover, like it's very exposed, and I don't know, that's scary. That's scary. So she's completely terrified. Okay. Okay. And they're like, all right, let's go. So now they're off.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

How do you feel? Like when you read that this was her mighty secret in terms of this is what that her sequel was this time training that she was given to McGonagall. This explains all the disappearing that she's been doing and thinking she's in one class and she's in the other. And Ron and Harry always wondering how she's taking all these classes. How do you feel about this girl, this student, this A student using time travel to take more fucking classes and more coursework and more homework? Like the concept of that alone just blows my mind, like hermani.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

The concept blows my mind for sure. But it's not like she's doing a shortcut. It's not like she's fast-forwarding like when she already knows everything. She's doing the hard work over and over and over and over again. So it's like, wow, this girl has grit. She has determination. And most importantly, like the adults around her that recognize how brilliant she is, like they really magnify her talent. And I also feel very vindicative of my prediction. I gotta say it.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

You predicted something along the lines of, is she time traveling or something like that? Yes, I remember.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

I said, is this like ground talk day where you can like go back and like make edits? And my boyfriend yesterday was like, I was trying so hard not to tell you that you're psychic. And I was like, ah, is that what they're talking about? Because we were listening to these episodes in the car.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

I loved that. Has he's uh read or seen all the Harry Potter movies or read all the books?

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Everything.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

Oh, so he's a big fan. Oh, okay. I love that. Well, he's gonna have to come on the phone do a little get so. I don't know about that, but yeah. I love that. So he's yeah, he's thinking go on this journey, and then he's also he's like me, and in terms of having to not spoil anything and just see you experience it for yourself. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

I want to give you props because more than one person, so him and my cousin that listens, they have both told me multiple times that you do a phenomenal job of answering my questions, like satiating that, but then not like giving things away. And he's like, it's so interesting as a listener that knows the other side. Like, he's like, Coda really does a good job. So good job.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yes, I do what I can. Thank you. But I will say, even for me, like, like I said, much more like locked in when it comes to the movies. This is only my second time reading the books. I read them for the first time during the pandemic. So when it comes to the books, I'm like some things I'm just remembering for the first time as I read them for the podcast or when you bring it up or whatever. So fairly like, you know, I feel like at some moments we are in the same place in terms in terms of like, you know, the rediscovering things or discovering things. So, but yeah, no, thank you for the uh the the flowers. Okay, but yeah, so hermani, this whole time trainer business, crazy, and also just the fact that she's kept it a secret from her two friends. She was sworn to secrecy, but like, yeah, like not only is she time traveling, but that she's also keeping it a secret and like having to keep now. Uh let me get into McGonagall for a second. Because McGonagall, McGonagall, Professor McGonagall, come to the come to the front, come to the front for a light whacking. Because what do you mean you're going out of your way to go to the Ministry of Magic to get permission to get this very powerful magical time traveling artifact to give to a 13-year-old student? Like, she could be an A student and you can trust in her responsibility and her, you know, studious student stuff. But like, I still think this is a horrible idea from the start. Like, no student needs to be doing if she can't take more coursework and just her regular present-day self, then having to do all this extra shit is just not. I don't, I don't know. I feel like that was a laptop judgment in McGonwall's part. Like, I yeah, I don't, yeah. She must have really, really, really trusted Hermione to like not only not one, not tell anyone, but then not fuck up when it comes to the time traveling and possibly see being seen or like doing something that would fuck up something else. Like, I don't know. It's just that's that's interesting to me. But I guess because her mindy was taking classes that Ron and Harry weren't in, or like that other people weren't in that were in her other classes, she could go back in time and take those classes because then there was like no overlap in terms of someone seeing her that shouldn't see her, and then she'll get the knowledge that she needs to come back to the president and take this. Um I'm just exhausted thinking about it. I'm exhausted and I'm gonna be exhausted talking about it in terms of like what's about to happen. So I'm like, I can only I now I see why she was so frazzled during the whole school year, yeah, trying to keep it all straight.

SPEAKER_04 50:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

And I have some questions because thank gosh she didn't get it stolen from her. Because last book, the Chamber of Secrets journal was getting passed around like loose assholes.

SPEAKER_02 51:04

Not losing juicy, honey.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

Um, and then Hermione, like this chapter or this book, she was falling asleep all the time. So I could have dug in her pockets and robbed her and been like, what's this?

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Right. Oh, this is a cute piece of jewelry, honey. The ruck is changed, right? Diamonds on my neck, diamonds on my neck. Yes. Yeah, so just so many things could have gone wrong when it comes to this this gift, I guess, that McDonald's bestowed upon her money, but then also the stress that it put onto her money. So you mean to tell me when her money was in transfiguration class with Professor McGonagall, and she saw how frazzled and tired her money was, probably sleeping in class, getting answers wrong. She didn't say, damn, maybe this wasn't the best idea. Let me get this time turned back. She's just like, Nope, I gave it to her. She's gonna be girls for the rest of this year. Like, uh okay. Yeah, all right. And then Hermione also not even feeling the need or name, like, hey, this was too much on my plate. Let me get back to McGongo and just do what I can. Like, you know what I mean? Like something like that. Like, you know, Hermione, like, she's when she sets her mind on something, so she's like, no, I'm gonna get through this year with this time turn that McDonald gave me no matter what. So shout out to her, I guess, but definitely questionable. And lastly, I'll say that's probably why she was so ready to give up divination. Because she's like, bitch, I've taken 30 million fucking classes. The last thing I need is this woo-woo astrological, um, uh crazy lady. Get on me and talk about something. I don't have no damn third eye. Fuck you, and you're a third eye. I got shit to do. I'm out of this bitch. So yeah, that's probably why she was crashed out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

I have a question because you brought up the divination. It can just be a simple yes, simple no, or don't go there, honey.

SPEAKER_04 52:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Is divination coming back for this book specifically? Or are we we just done with that exam? Because the exam was so lackluster, they all kind of failed. And then it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

So is divination just like the topic of it, or like Professor Trelani?

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Like Professor T.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

Yes, it's coming back.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

Okay, thank God. Because I'm like, you've had this whole side character for what?

SPEAKER_02 53:14

Yes, well, we'll see what happens outside develops. Okay, so let's continue on. And so they make their way out of the broom closet and out into the deserted entrance hall, making sure not to be seen. Harry and Hermione run out of Hogwarts across the grounds towards the greenhouses, pausing for a moment to make sure they haven't been seen before continuing on towards Hagrid's hut. And just as they arrive, obscured near the forest in the shadows of the trees, but in view of Hagrid's, they hear a knock at Hagrid's door, and Hagrid answers, shaking and white from Buckbee's looming execution. And then Harry hears his own voice. We're officially back in time, three hours in the past. I'm gonna be using past and present Harry and Hermione to describe them because there's a lot going on. So just stay with me, Todd. Stay with me. I was typing, I was reading type NFTs, I was like, oh, my mind is going crazy. Okay, all right. So so future Harry and Hermione are now looking at the past Harry Hermione and Ron arriving at Hagrid's under the visibility cloak and so on. So basically, everything that we experienced as readers happening with the trio a few chapters ago, that leading up to Buckbeak's execution, that's what we're about to re-experience, but through a different set of eyes. So Harry decides that this is the weirdest thing he's ever done. So they move closer near Hagrid's pumpkin patch, and there they see a nervous appearing Buckbeak chained up to the fence. And Harry is eager to free Buckbeak and get a move on. But Hermione rejects that idea, stating that if they free Buckbeak before the minister and the executioner arrive and see Buckbeak there, that they will think that Hagar freed him and it could lead to Hagar getting in more trouble. So for now, they have to wait till the execution committee arrives. And this will lead, like instead of them freeing Buckbeak now and being able to make a clean break from it, them having to wait for the execution party to arrive and then try to free Buckbeak, that would be like a much shorter window of time and definitely like put more pressure on them to try to free Buckbeak. So it's not the most ideal circumstance, but it's the only circumstance they got. So they continue to wait and kind of see their past play out from Hagrid's breaking the glass milk jug and distress. So Hermione's squealing from finding Ron's scabbers in Hagrid's hut. And Harry now asked Hermione, what if they just went in there and grabbed Scabbers slash Peter Peggeru? Since in the future he unfortunately escapes. And Hermione says no, blatantly, like, and she's like very freaked out. She reiterates what Delmador said to them right before they started this journey, but also what Professor McGonagall has told them that not only would that be breaking one of the most important wizard in laws in terms of not messing with time travel or time, and this is common across many storylines of TV shows and movies and books when it comes to time travel. You're not supposed to mess with time. Shout out to Back to the Future and all the other examples. Like you change one thing in the past, and maybe it's like a domino effect, butterfly effect, whatever you want to call it, the timeline will be fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Do you ever remember this movie called Clockstoppers?

unknown 56:01

No.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

You might be too young, but it was like this This guy had this watch, like a young kid. And if you stop the time, everyone around you would be frozen, and you could like manipulate them or like do crazy events and then come back and press play. And so you could like rob, you could do whatever. And yeah, they talk about how you're not supposed to change too much, and it catches up to him. But that's an OG movie. Okay, clockstoppers.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

I'll have to check it out. Interesting. All right, clockstoppers. Okay. So Hermione even knows how Domino adamantly reminded them that they should not be seen. And Harry's goofy ass is like, well, we'd only be seen by our past selves and Hagrid. Harry frustrates me this chapter with his bullshit when it comes to this whole not interviewing, not being seen thing, but we'll get to that. So Hermione's like, okay, let me break this down for you. Like for the slower amongst us. Harry, darling, what do you think would happen if you say saw yourself as you currently are bursting into Hagrid's house? Like you saw you. Harry answers, Well, I think I'd gone mad, bonkers, crazy, insane, you name it. Or that maybe there was some dark magic happening. And Hermione's like, right, right, right. You wouldn't be able to process and understand what was happening, and you'd possibly even just attack yourself just from like seeing yourself. Like Hermione goes on to say how Professor McGonagold told her that horrible things have happened to wizards that have messed with time. Some even killed killing their past or future selves by mistake and basically like erasing their existence, past or present or future. So it's just not a good idea. So here's like, okay, okay, your point has been made. And even though he says that, we'll see. And he's like, it was just an idea. Like, yeah, my bad. So now it's time for Buck Beek's beheading again. So Harry sees Dalvalor, Minister Fudge, McNair, and the commiss a committee head or whatever, all approaching or coming down from Awkwards to Hagrid's hut. And at the same time, past Harry, Hermani, and Ron are still inside Hagrid's hut trying to reassure him that everything is going to be okay. While future Harry and Hermione are watching all of this from the forest into the pumpkin patch. All right. Follow me, it's the time travel of it all. So eventually, as it happened previously, Hagrid starts to beckon the tree out as he doesn't want them to see Buckbee turn into a three-piece extra spicy chicken meal with fries and collards on the side in a moment. So the Hagrid's like, y'all need to go, y'all need to go. The whole Popeye's chicken saga, uh, Popeye's chicken sandwich ordeal that happened a few years ago.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

On COVID?

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Nuts. Was it during COVID? I don't know if it was, I think it was after COVID, but the whole like the Popeyes came out that new chicken sandwich and people were just going crazy over it. Oh over over buckbeak meat.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

And I still haven't tried the buckbeak sandwich all these years later. I want to try it now.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Yeah. I think they changed up the recipe, so it's not I've had it since, and it's not as good as it once was. But when it was like that peak time, I did get to try it, and it was really good. Now I wasn't worth dying over or killing anyone over, but it was a good sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

But did you ever try that pickle lemonade that they came out with?

unknown 58:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

This is not a safe place. This is not a safe place for the pickle lovers. I would try it.

SPEAKER_02 59:05

Not the pickleback, honey. Even that, like what I was drinking, and like people like do a pickleback shot, like after you do a shot. I was like, y'all be coming with the most interesting ways to get the alcohol down. That's a pickleback.

SPEAKER_01 59:17

But if you're hungover, pickle juice is great. If you have muscle cramps, pickle juice is great. If you're dehydrated, pickle juice is great. Or pickle juice is great. Bam! I said it.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

Larsa, shout out to the pickles. So as the execution party arrive and knock on Hagrid's door, the trio is throwing the invisibility cloak back on and headed out of Hagrid's back door out of sight. But now, future Harry and Hermione are present at Hagrid's to see what's going down after they left. So the execution party now is in Hagrid's home. McNair, the executioner, asks Hagrid where the beast is in reference to Buckbeak. And Hagrid directs his view to Buckbeak from the window, chained in the pumpkin patch. So McNair has seen Buckbeak with his eyes outside, chained in the pumpkin patch. So that's perfectly what the Harry and Hermani needed. So Fudge steps in to say the official notice of execution before the party signed. So then Fudge beckons McNair away from the window where he was staring at Buckbeak to listen in, giving Harry and Hermione their small golden window to accomplish their time traveling mission. So as Fudge recites his declaration, Harry approaches Buckbeak in the pumpkin patch, remembering not to blink and to bow. And once he got the go-ahead, Harry went to work to untie the rope of not tying Buckbeak to the fence. Now Harry could hear Fudge's speech coming to an end and Hagrid and McNear being instructed to sign the notice before they began to head outside to do some good old-fashioned slut shaming. To do some deep cut, deep cut job. To do some good old-fashioned killing. So now Buckbeak, here is where I have to get you together. Yes, I'm getting a bird together. Harry has got the rope loose and is tugging on it, trying to get Buckbeak to follow him into the Forbidden Forest. But Buckpeak has dug himself in, not wanting to budge or move. Bitch, do you want to motherfucking die again? Move your motherfucking bird ass. Like, this is not the time to be stubborn. This kind of reminds me of when someone is walking their dog on the street and the dog just plops down and doesn't want to move, and the owners like having to like physically try to like pick their ass up to get them to keep walking. Like, that's what this is giving like. Buckbee, get your ass out.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

You can't really hit a bird because it'll bite you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:29

Especially Buckby's ass. Like Draco, we learned this from Draco. Like it will knock your ass out and scratch you all up. So it's literally like all they can do is like please beck and gesture and beckon Buckbee to follow them.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Um is Draco still alive? Like, we have not heard from him in so long. Forgot about his ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

Yeah, I think after uh Harry and the Griffin the Quidditch team won the house cut or the the Quidditch Cup or whatever that's he kind of just like changed his name, dropped out. No, literally went to the inside, it's just like, all right, um, down for the count. So yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

See you all in book four.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:04

No, literally. So the committee members suggest Haggard stays inside, but Haggard insists on being by Buckby's side till the end, which I thought was so sweet. At this point, Harry's fed the fuck up and in a whispered yet hissing tone tells Buckby to move for his ass, and he tugs on the rope around his neck, and finally he starts to move. But they're still like a few steps away from being out of sight of the committee and into the forbidden force. Thankfully, Dumbledore comes to the rescue in this moment just as they're about to open the door and see Harry reminding McNair that he too has to sign the document and it pulls them all back inside again. And I felt like this was a kick in the ass that Budcook needed because he like maybe felt that the actors are approaching to move, like get his feathery ass together. So he finally starts to be agreeable, and Harry's able to finally fully move him into the forest and out of sight.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

He's like, shit, they're coming for me. Let's go. Okay, Buckley.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

He said that's all you have to say, chat. Now, in this moment, do you think it's just we already know Dumbledore is the one that's sending them on this mission? So do you is think in Dumbledore and all his wise old wizard powers somehow from the past, himself, future self knows that in this moment he needs to beckon them back inside to give Harry and Hermione a little bit more time to get Buckbeek away.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

I'll say yes, just for the hell of it. I trust the wizard.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:20

Yeah, yeah, literally that the wizard and I. I'm just assuming that somehow Dumbledore's the one that sent them on his match as well. Somehow he knew that in that moment, that's what he had to do to get them just enough time to get him away. So, yeah. So interesting. It's interesting that you know Dumbledore is Dumbledore. And the next moment, Haggard's door slams open and the execution party comes outside. There is a silence for a moment before the outrage and shock can be heard. McNair instantly starts crashing out because Buckbeak is gone, even though he had just seen himself a moment ago. Domador is surprised at this, allegedly, stating how extraordinary this was. Haggard is the happiest we may have ever seen him, literally overcome with emotion and joy at Beaky as he referred to him getting away. Buckbeak seeing Haggard from the trees is trying to make his way back to him, which I also thought was sweet. But Harry and Hermione are hanging onto the road for dear life to keep him in place and hidden. Like Buckbee, this is not a time for a reunion with your sweet caretaker. Like, we gotta keep you hidden before you get back to the city.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

Buckbeak is like, Baba, Baba. And Harry's like, no, I need to save my Godpapa. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

Literally. So McNair is just mad at the world. He swings his axe into the fence and demands for there to be a search of the grounds and forest, and someone must have untied Buckbeak and did. Like McNair, you are you aren't you aren't um too far off. And don't be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

If I'm getting paid on commission, get this buck, get me that chicken sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

I'm leaving here with something. Like I'm killing something tonight. Shit. So Dumbledore's like, child, anyways, because if someone did untie a flying bird, do you think they'd escape on foot? As opposed to, I don't know, flying. Well, and he says this with some amusement in his, you know, Dumbledore, uh, Dumbledore ways. And then he then turns to Hagrid and says, Haggard, pour me a cup of tea, or better yet, some brandy, baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

I haven't seen Dumbledore get drunk yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

No, literally, like they're heading and Haggard about a turnout. So Haggard exhausted with his own happiness and relieved says, Headmaster, you ain't said nothing but a word. Come on in, let's drink, let's have a good time, let's celebrate. So after Dumbledore and Hagrid go inside, Hagrid's out to celebrate as well as the execution committee to commiserate. Harry asks, What now? And Hermione thinking decides they need to hide, making sure not to be seen until the next major event happens at the Wamping Willow. And so they make their way there. Now they get there, and after some time, darkness has once again fallen. And soon future Harry and Hermione see past Ron chasing after Crookshanks, who is chasing after Scabbrets, followed by past Harry and Hermione chasing after past Ron. And then comes past Cirus in dog form, eating Ron and Scabbers under into the Walping Willow and into the shrieking shack, followed by past Harry and Hermione, also going down once Crookshank's. Freezes the tree for a moment. So they're seeing everything that transpired before happen again, but again from their future selves. Yeah. So of course, again, with future Harry and Hermione seeing everything happen, but from a different point of view, they see that once they've all gone under, that the tree starts to move again. And they see just a second later, Dumbledore and the committee actually come out of Hagarita and they're making their way up to Hawk. So Hermione is frustrated now seeing this, thinking that if only Dumbledore had come with them down into the streaking shack. But Harry robusts this, saying that perhaps Fledge and McNear would have also come. And Fudge may have ordered serious death right there. And you know, McNear, he's finna he's eager to kill someone, so he would have happily obliged. So it's probably for the best that they didn't run into Dumber at this moment. So Dumber and Company make their way back into Hogwarts, and now here comes past Lupin, quickly maneuvering the whopping willow and making his way under and out of sight. Now Harry's now frustrated, mentions if only Lupin had grabbed the damn cloak that was on the floor, as at this time it was just lying on the ground. And he turns to Hermione and suggests that maybe, like Hermione, hey, I know you already said that we can't be seen and we can't change anything we're not supposed to, but what if I just ran out there and grabbed it real quick? That way Snape never was able to like get into the womping willow and eavesdrop and just be there and everything. And Hermione is quick to cut him off and re-emphasize that they cannot be seen. I love how disciplined Hermione is for a 13-year-old girl, like a true Virgo. Like she said, rules are rules. We're ascended here on a specific mission. We cannot divert from that path. So I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

I want a montage of her training Harry throughout the years, training Ron with the Sonicals, which I'm the largest. Because like she stays teaching them.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

Like literally.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

Did she skip three grades? Because this incompetent men around her just drag her down. No, but also she's had she's had months to tell her. It's just crazy how how often he's questioning her. Like, this is my position. Don't ask me nothing. I know this, but okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

No, literally that. Yeah, it's just you know what how they say that girls mature quicker than boys or whatever. Like Hermione and her brace into Harry and Rod are like a peak example of that. So, yes, yes, shout out to Hermione. So, yes, so stubborn Harry's like stubborn ass hairy. What's his astr? I don't remember what his astrological sign is. We'll have to look into that and talk about that in a future episode. I'm trying to remember when his birthday.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:25

What day was he born?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:26

When is Harry's birthday? It is July 31st.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

July 31st is Leo. That's why he got that hair on him, and that's why he has all the attention, even if he doesn't want it. Ah, Leo.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

And it's interesting. Leo, Leo and Virgo, button heads. Okay, interesting. All right. What's wrong?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:48

That's the real question.

unknown 1:08:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:50

We'll look at Toronto.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

Another day. Another day.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

Yes, yes, yes. That'll actually be cool if we look at the something on astrological stuff. So perfect. Okay, working. Yes. Get Neville in there, get Conn Creeby's ass, get uh Gene. I love it. I love it. I love it. Okay. So, okay, perfect. So, yeah, so Harry's stubborn Leo's ass. So he asks Hermione defiantly, how can she stand this? Watching all this unfold, and he steps to make his way out into the field to grab the clothes, which is very audacious of you. Like Hermione's told you that he can't be seen or interfere. Dumbler's ass has told you that, and you still are like, I don't care. I'm gonna go get the cloak and like it's very main character energy. But he, as he goes to like try to go grab the cloak, Hermione grabs him by the ropes and yeets him back because just in time, because as he was about to do that, here comes happy ass drunk Hagrid singing loudly, celebrating his birth being alive and making his way up to the castle. Hagrid said, My pet bird is alive, I'm gonna drink and be merry. I know that's right. Haggard be drinking when he's sad, he'd be drinking when he's happy, he'd just be drinking.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Yeah, he's an alcoholic. I called that shit from the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:53

You too.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

And I know on that playlist he's playing, We're breaking free so it's not a style heaven that we can reach.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:07

Oh, shut up to the musical, honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

That is the second time we've sung this song on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

Was it really?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:12

I think so.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

Shit. Okay, so and once again, Buckbeak seeing Hagrid tries to go to him, but again, it's refrained by hearing Hermione. And eventually Hagrid enters the castle, and Buckbeak stops his attempt to try to go after Hagrid and sadly drops his head. Poor Buckbeak. Now, Hermione in this moment says, You see that, you see you're about to go try to interfere, and you would have been seen by Hagrid. You stubborn bitch. Just because you are the main character doesn't mean you don't have to listen and you get to do whatever you want all the damn time. I know this story is named after you, but goddamn, I'm trying to save your raggedy ass godfather so you can have a loving home. Or would you rather take your ass back to Priver Drive to live with the motherfucking derseys, you glasses wearing, lightning scar habits, make talking ass, always in some trouble ass bitch. I'm tired of your motherfucking ass. I asked for the never became friends with you in the motherfucking first place. You dumb bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

What copy do you have? What edition is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:14

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

She said it said that.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

She didn't say all that. All she said was C. But the point still remains. Okay, the point still motherfucker remains that that was what was on her Virgo spirit to say. But as a Virgo, we have to keep it cool, calm, collected. So from one Virgo to another, I I I that I I I was just translating. I was letting the spirit move through me in terms of what she's saying. Okay. Hold on. So barely two minutes after Hagar goes in and Hermione's done chewing Harry's ass out. Here comes Snape, charging out of the castle and towards a womping willow. Snape, of course, finds the cloak. He picks it up. Harry's fish is clenched, he's snarling under his breath for Snape to get his filthy hands off the cloak, but he doesn't. He puts it on, in fact, and he goes under, entering the Womping Willow. So Hermione now is finally able to rest for a moment, says, That's it. Now it's just a matter of time, waiting for the events underneath to unfold and for everyone to come back up, and then we'll be back to present day. She ties Buck for a tree and she just sits down. I just know she's tired. I just know she's tired of all the time travel, all this running around that they've been doing, having to get Harry together over and over again. Like it's giving a royal house class with Vitlano, Marlo. Today drained me. I'm just tired. Yes, today drain me. But a witch's work is never done because now she has to ask Harry to clear something up for her, asking why the Dementors didn't get serious as she remembers the dementa swarming them and her passing out. Harry sits down next to her and explains everything that happened as he understood it. The dementa lifting Harry into the air, about to suck his soul, before being stopped by something silver galloping across the lake and driving all the dementors back. Hermione asks, Well, what was that silver thing? And Harry answers that the only thing he could think of it being was a Petronus, a very large and powerful one. And so Hermione follows up the question with who could have conjured it. Harry's quiet, thinking to himself on who he had seen or thought he had seen. Hermione is asking, Was it a teacher? It must have been a powerful wizard to be able to cast such a powerful spell. And Harry's just thinking to himself, and he's second guessing himself, prefacing that he wasn't thinking straight, and he passed out shortly after. But he finally says that he thinks it was his dad that he saw. Now Harry looks up to meet Hermione's alarmed but also sympathetic face of pity towards Harry before she points out the obvious that Harry's father, James Potter, is dead, to which Harry replies, he knows. Harry, knowing he sounds crazy, turns to look at Buckbeak, but really to think on the fact that perhaps he did see his father that night or slash tonight, as his father's three friends were all here on Hogwarts tonight. So it could be possible that his father was also here. And the fact that Peter Pettigrew, a man that everyone thought was dead, was actually alive all this time, maybe his father was also alive as well. Well it's a nice thought, and I could see how someone who has been orphaned for so long and he's longing for this connection with his parents, would have this slight bit of hope, even though it doesn't sound realistic or practical, that maybe it is my dad. Like if Peter Pettigrew has been an animal this whole time, maybe my dad had to go into hiding to protect me from Voldemort, and he's been, I don't know, like and he feels like he saw his dad. So like I but again, under all the circumstances of the last chapter with the dementia sucking his soul out, hearing his mother screams, barely being able to see, it was a lot going on. So I could see why he could feel that way and think it could be that, but again, it's not concrete. So after another hour or so, the events in the streeting shack have concluded and everyone is coming up. Before Harry could even utter a word or make a step out of hiding, Hermione repeats herself for the 50th time that they've got to stay hidden. There's nothing they can do, etc. And uh, Harry, of course, still wants to rebut with the frustration that they're going to just watch Peter Escape again. And Hermione snaps at this point, yelling at Harry, asking, Bitch, how do you expect to find a rat in the darky in the grassy dark? Like, you want to go get him so badly? How do you expect to find him and capture him without causing a ruckus? Like, there is nothing we can do. We came back to help Sirius, we're not supposed to do anything else. And those are her words this time. That's what she said. Yeah. So Harry concedes and says, All right, with frustration. Now the moon's messy self comes out of hiding from behind the clouds, and shit starts to go down once again with loop and transforming and everything that we saw happen in the last chapter. Harry calls Hermione's name, telling her that they've got to move. And Hermione's like, again, about to start in on her spill about not interfering. But Harry's like, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about we've got to get out of here because loop and the world is literally headed right towards the forbidden force and towards them, and that would not be a pretty sight. So Hermione's like, oh shit. So she gets up and unsides Buckbeak and this cadetto, asking Harry where they're gonna go hide, and Harry lands on Hagrid's as it's empty at the moment, and they take off running as fast as they can with the howls of the world right behind them. So Harry, Hermione, and Buckbeak all stumble into Hagrid's hut and lock the door shut, and they find Fang there, and Fang is barking up a storm, like, who the fuck is in my house right now, disturbing my peace?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:03

Like he said, the one day I have a time alone. No, literally. I am doing my skincare routine.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

Like my drunk owner just left. I finally have a moment of quiet, and here y'all go busting into the damn house. Like, it's just a mess.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:16

Are you supposed to be dead, executed? I was praying on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:19

No, literally, I know, but I know Fang is fed the fuck up between like Norbert from the first chapter or from the first book with the damn baby dragon blowing fire on him and taking up all of Hagrid's time to now this motherfucking uh bird creature off in his home. And I know Hagrid's house is not that big for this big-ass bird to be in there. So I know Fang is just like, I am over it. Oh, Hermione quiets Fang with some ear scratches, and Buckbeak makes himself right at home by the fire as if he wasn't moments away from death a few hours ago. So I love that for Buckbeak. Buckbeak says, Child, I'm gonna take a load off. So Harry was looking out the window, but it was hard to see anything. So he suggests to Hermione that he goes outside as they won't be able to tell what's going on from here. And Hermione's looking at him suspiciously like, sure, Jan. Um, but Harry reassures her that he's not going to interfere, allegedly. But how else will they know when it's time to rescue Sirius? So Hermione concedes and stays back with Buckbeak and tells Harry to be careful because you know, werewolves and dementors and spiders, oh my, are all out there. So Harry sets out into the night once again. So now Harry's outside of Hackard's hut trying to get a better view of what is going on. He can hear Sirius screams from the distance, meaning that the Dementors were closing in on Sirius and past Harry and Hermione. Harry thinks to himself that whoever sent the patronus would be arriving at any moment and stands firm in Hermione's warnings not to interfere for all of one minute. And then he takes off running in the direction of Siri. Bitch, like Harry.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:45

That's like five minutes in boy time. You tried.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

He said, he said, I will not interfere, I will not interfere, I will not interfere, and then takes off running.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:52

Like it's like those little kids when the parents are like, I'll give you one treat now. But if I come back and you haven't eaten the treat, I'll give you three treats. As soon as that door closes, they kind of look around. They're like, Bam, give me the donut.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:07

Literally. So Harry is giving himself every reason in the book to justify this from he needed a better view to the dementors were coming, so he had to know if it was his father he saw, to he would still make sure not to be seen. You name it, like anything you could come up with to defend his uh current action. So he arrives at the lake and takes cover in a bush on the opposite side of where Cyrus and uh Harry and Hermione are being tormented by the Dementors. He's waiting, he's waiting, he's waiting for the person, the hero, his father, whoever to come and save them with his patronus. Where the fuck are you, Dad? Harry's thinking to himself, like, but still, no one is coming. And then, as it happened earlier before, the Dementor across the lake begins to raise its hood to do the Dementor's kiss, and then the realization hits Harry. He hadn't seen his father, he had actually seen himself. Well, his future self.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:58

So Harry springs out from behind the bushes, pulls on his motherfucking wound, exclaims, Expect Patrone for every Dementor in this place.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:22

Literally that, and out of Harry's wand came not a shapeless, wispy silver mist, but a fully formed, blinding, dazzling, large silver animal, and out it went, galloping across the lake to the rescue, forcing the dementors to fall back and flee. And as the Patronus returned to Harry, he could see it clearly now what this animal was that he conjured. It wasn't a horse, it wasn't a unicorn, it was a stag shining as bright as the moon. Talking to the and so this stag Patronus arrives back at Harry, staring up at him before bowing its antlers, head down to Harry, causing Harry to make the connection to the Marauders and the nickname Prongs, his father's animagus. Now, I don't really know what prongs is in relation to the city. I don't know what a stag is. Let me see. A stag is a fully grown adult male deer. Yeah. A stag prong typically refers to the individual points on a male deer's antlers.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:23

The more you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:25

Learning something new. The more you know. Animal planet over here. Okay, so uh, where were we? So Harry reaches out to touch his Patronus, reaching out to touch this beautiful wispy silver connection he now has to his father. But the creature vanishes, leaving Harry's hand outstretched alone. But not for long, because here comes a gal from behind, and Hermione coming with buckbeak to give Harry a good whack. And she doesn't even let him explain before tearing into him asking him what he did, as he said he was not going to, he was only going to go look out. Harry's like, not too much curls, because just listen to me, cuz because Ronnie has brown curly here, but because she's still on 10 asking if anyone saw him, and Harry's like, yes, but it was me that I saw. I just thought it was my dad. And Ronnie calms down to give Harry his flower. She's like, Oh shit, like you were the one that conjured that strong ass patronist. Like, that's very advanced magic. And Harry's like, period. So it is, but I knew I could do it because I had already seen myself done it. And he I had already seen myself do it. He had already seen himself done did it. He's gonna do the damn thing again. Um so yeah, yes. So because Harry because future Harry had already seen past Harry cast the Patronus, even though he thought it was his father, he and now that he realized that it was actually him, he knew that he had the ability to cast it. So that's why he was able to cast it now. Yes. So still hidden from view. Now they see Snape has regained his consciousness and he conjures up some stretches to take Harry, Hermione, and Sirius back up to Hogwarts alongside another stretcher that has Ron on it. Okay, now that all the events as we know them have happened and transpired, the official countdown to say Sirius is on. Mindy, that was the original mission, but first they had to save Buckbeak and then catch up to where they're currently at. So with Hermione saying that they have about 45 minutes until Domador locks the door to the hospital wing. And so they have to save Sirius and get back to the hospital ward before anyone realizes they're gone because time travel stuff. So they basically have to catch up to the present day where they had gone back in time to kind of bring themselves back into their present bodies, so to speak. So it's like a it's like a crazy kind of like time loop thing. It's it's very interesting. So now they're waiting, trying to guess when Sirius is going to be moved from the hospital ward to the West Tower to be imprisoned. And finally they see McNair making his way to the Harbor's entrance to get the Dementor to perform the Dementor's kiss on Sirius. And McNair is just so eager to kill someone. Like he said, I couldn't get Buckpeak. I'm going to get this man. Like I'm leaving here or something, get up my commission. Like, I came to do some good old killing. Um so without any further thought, Harry and Hermione climb aboard Buckpeak Ellen's, and with Harry taking charge, having phone Buckbeak before, thankfully, he tells Hermione to hold on tight and gives Buckbeak a little nudge in his side, and Buckpeak soars into the sky. Hermione is wrapped around Harry's waist tight as she might as have she doesn't like this flying sensation. And they're flying, flying, flying, searching for the right window in the West Tower where Sears is being kept, and finally they come upon him. So now they're floating in the air on Buckbeak, and Buckbeak taps on the window to get Sears' attention, and Harry sees Sears' mouth drop as he approaches the window, trying to open it, but it's locked. Hermione works her math, of course, literally, casting the Alohamora unlocking spell and the window springs open. Once again, Hogwarts defenses, like, you mean to tell me y'all have a mass murderer, escapee, prison inmate locked in your school, and simple unlocking spell that a first year can cast can unlock windows how would that person go to the 13th outside window? That's true. That's true. That's true. But let's say if some student was out of bed and was able to happen upon the West Tower where Sirius is being kept. I I don't know. Like, I you know how the trip we get into it. Like in the first book, how they found it. That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. Imagine someone came upon, yeah. Like I it just uh okay, just a mess. Uh just but thankfully since Sirius Black isn't who people think he is, is all as well. So they get the window open and Sirius is asking them how. He tells his guy that he to stop all that yapping and get on this the buckbeak and let's go. And Sears says, shit, say less. And he house on Buckbeak and they fly away from the West Tower, where McNair and the Demensus were quickly approaching. So Buckbeak flies them high and away to safety and they land atop another tower. And Harry's urging Sears to go quickly as they'll soon discover he's gone once skipped once again and start searching for him. But before Sirius does, he asks about Ron, which I thought was very sweet of him to like, you know, check on the boy who's like he was long on and caused be badly injured in the first place. He said, forget about my high school best friend who was somewhere in the woods as a werewolf, like, how's how's your friend? Like, how's he doing? I thought it was really sweet. But Sirius is just grateful to be alive, and he's trying to ask Harry and Hermione how they could ever, how he could ever repay them. And both Harry and Hermione cut him off yelling at him to just go, like, shit, like, look, like, though they've saved Sirius now, the clock is still counting down for them to get back before the timeline is fucked. So, like, get on this bread and fly the fuck away. So Sirius gets on Buckbeak and his parting horse and Harry are we'll see each other again. You are truly your father's son, Harry. And with that, he gives Buckbeak a squeeze, and Buckbeak flies off into the night sky towards the moon, and off they go, and they get smaller and smaller as Harry looks out at them, and a cloud a cloud passes by crossing over the moon, and in the next moment, Buckbeak the bird, and Sirius Black, Harry's godfather, is gone into the night. And that is where we end chapter 21, Hermione's Secret.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:00

I think it was beautiful how they the I'm just gonna call her the author for right now, because she's it's Pride Month, so I have some I have some rules, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

I know that's right. Yes, yes, happy prime month. This is our first Prime Month themed episode, yes, or Pride Month, episode month. Happy Prime month. Happy Prime month, gays.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:21

Hi gay. Yeah, whatever that Chixie.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:26

Why are you gay? You are gay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:28

Um, but I I do like how the author wrote the scenery of this, like the moon and the sun's sunset going down, and with pairing that up with all the events that happen, and there's something about Bugbeat just flying into the full moon with the clouds falling over it. It's just like they're like releasing this chapter for Sirius Black for right now, and we'll see what happens with him. Like, how are they gonna prove his innocence without Pizza Petigrew? Like, yes, they bought they bought themselves a significant amount of time, and the duo now saved two lives, which is humongous. It also reminded me of like when Norman had to be flown away, like on the tower. They they sent his ass to like Romania or something. Compared to the other students, they have such a full life outside of class. It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:31

It's unreal, actually, the shit that they've been through as just students. Yep. And it really's all because of their friendship. Their friendship.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

It is, it's it's because of their proximity to him. I have a question that may not necessarily have to do with these chapters, but something that has to do with the book as a whole. I found that I saw like a lot of character development in Harry, this book with the Patronus spell in particular, it was kind of rounded out that like full circle. Moment. Her mining had like a little breakdown in divination, which I thought was showing like growth, because she realized like what doesn't serve her and what does. I don't think Ron has like grown up this particular year. I don't I don't see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:22

That's a fair assessment. That's a fair assessment. I would agree. I I could see your point.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:34

Wow. Like I saw him as a man, just even just for that moment. And like this whole time he's been like picking butts with her, Miley. He's just kind of been like a background.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:46

Uh act crashing out all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:48

Yeah, I guess he's been under some stress.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:50

Not really, yeah. Being a little irresponsible when it comes to Harry's safety and the serious black of it all. And yeah, you're right. It's Ron's had an interesting journey to see.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:00

So I want to see like how his character develops.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:05

Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, I like that. I like that. Lastly, before we get out of here, how do you think Snape will react to the fact that serious his origin nemesis, his long life foe, who we wanted to see, he wanted to see dead in the ground, has now a spiritual.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:22

I think his Bob officially has split ends. He's pissed. From the rooter to the tutor, he's pissed.

unknown 1:29:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:29

I wonder if Snape will think that his life is in danger. Since he went off, since he went after Black so hard, like could Black now be like, you know what? If you're gonna call me a killer, might as well do something about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:46

What I said, he said I was murderous since 16th, so here you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:51

Interesting. Well, we'll see what happens in the final chapter of Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban. I will post again a callback to the first chapter with Harry getting off those birthday letters. Um, so we'll see how this book closes out, and then I'll have my final question for you of how you enjoyed this book overall and where it compares to the first two. So we'll save that for when we close this story out. But I think that's it. I think that's all I have. One more chapter to go. That is crazy. We'll have one more chapter, obviously, talking about the final chapter and our thoughts over on the book. We'll have a best of episode looking back at some of our favorite moments from this book as a whole, and then we'll have our Hogwarts Hang episode where we play some Harry Potter and Prisoner of Gasculan themes, games, activities. And we'll also be looking back on our one-year journey on the podcast. But this was a nice and long episode. Long lengthy. We said we missed a week. We're gonna give y'all a nice what is it? Where are we at? An hour and a half, two hours. Um, y'all like save this for a car ride. You can probably listen to the first stop on your way to work in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:56

When the sun goes down from sunrise to sunup, just like her mining.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:01

Yes, absolutely, absolutely. But we hope you guys enjoyed us talking about every part of the prison raspend, chapter 20, the Dementerous Kiss in chapter 21, her mining secret, and what a secret it was indeed. Of course, please go ahead and leave us a five-star review over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Really, really appreciate it. Chad, I thought with the week off, I was gonna come back to some new five-star reviews and I can read them on the podcast, but y'all said no work, no play, no reward. Yeah, scold them, scold them. You know, because we're a little too nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

Every once in a while, we have to throw y'all around.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:35

And look, when I say reviews, I'm being I want written reviews. Not just don't hit the five-star, but I want you to click the text box and type nice podcast. We love it. Five stars thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:47

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SPEAKER_02 1:31:49

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SPEAKER_01 1:32:15

And I'm Alicia.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:16

Um