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Momentum Ep. 3: Andromeda Launch

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This is Episode 3 of Momentum, MultiversX’s live-streamed podcast exploring the latest developments across the ecosystem.

In this special edition, we’re celebrating the launch of Andromeda, a major protocol upgrade and the first in a series of releases that reshape how speed, scalability, and security are achieved on-chain.

Robert Sasu, Mihai Schiopu, Lukas Seel, and guests walk through the core changes, what they enable, and what’s coming next.

SPEAKER_07:

Salutare. Hello. Welcome. GM. All of that. Hello, everybody. This is a very, very special episode of Momentum. It is episode three. Um, but we're doing a special edition, which is uh the Andromeda launch party. Um while Robert is still fixing some code, I am today joined by my friends Adi and me. Hi, how are you guys doing? From headquarters in CBU. What's up?

SPEAKER_02:

Um hi, yeah, uh very good. Um glad to be here in the podcast for the second time. Uh and excited to see Andromeda finally uh activated.

SPEAKER_01:

Hello everyone. Good morning, good evening. Um, I've heard that there's a party, a lunch party, and I said that I I like parties, so I I should join this one. And about Robert, I think the legend says that he's still running. This is in regards to the uh very good time that he had uh for the marathon uh this uh Saturday, where we had more than 9,000 people participating. They received their uh very nice uh uh bracelets and um uh Vero Pay did a very nice job implementing and uh bringing blockchain very close to everyone there.

SPEAKER_07:

I mean, since we're talking about it, since this is the a very casual beginning, um let's let's jump on that for a second. After this, I'll I'll just let everybody know what's sort of happening during the show. We have uh about um 60 minutes as a lead up. I believe the epoch change is at 08, right?

SPEAKER_01:

More or less, I think you blocked. But uh the epoch change should should happen at 17 o'clock UTC. Uh so um more or less uh than one hour. So one hour from now. That that's exactly what what will happen. Um so until Lucas will return. Uh probably um we should uh touch a little on the agenda. Uh I think I have I had the agenda here somewhere, just one second. Usually he was uh the one uh handling the the agenda. So yeah, we we are going to touch uh on um and Andromeda is going to be the main subject for today, given the fact that in one hour how Lucas started to say we um the activation is going to happen on the mainnet. Um and by then uh we would like to introduce you uh to why this upgrade is coming and why is it uh that important. What led us here? What's the story uh about and how did we reach Andromeda, about the naming? Um probably you remember that we had uh different initial plan and then we switched um to a different plan so that we could uh achieve sub-second finality faster, which is uh coming with supernova. Uh then um having uh Adrian here with us, uh, we will go through uh top five most notable improvements that will come with the Andromeda, and uh obviously we will discuss uh about each of them and how those uh will set Multiverse X apart from uh other ecosystems, and probably we will try some parallels to uh what uh other ecosystems are announcing to Target for. So you are back. I'm back.

SPEAKER_07:

Amazing. Yeah, I'm glad the stream didn't drop. Uh I just switched to mobile, but but we're back. You're you're talking, don't let me interrupt you, I'll ease back in.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I was talking about the agenda, and um I think I have two more points. Uh we will discuss about um what does it set up next and how this aligns with everything that is happening um in the world. Like again, we will go probably through uh AI and uh what does blockchain bring in in support to the AI um narrative and direction. Uh, we will discuss about speed, about latency, bandwidth, and so on. But uh now having the main host with us, uh probably Lucas, uh we can go with the um uh informal and what you wanted to to start with.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, I I thought since since we have uh an hour or so, we we will have plenty of time to go into depth uh obviously on Andromeda, but also there were some recent events that I think are pretty cool to highlight. Always cool to see sort of blockchain piercing through to um IRL. And you guys just ran. Did you did either of you run actually, or were you just at the at the stands? Tell us about the the marathon uh of a of a few days ago.

SPEAKER_01:

So um there were lots of discussions about uh uh going and running. Uh I know I said usually I run, so usually I run. I I'm not that uh at the level of uh uh Robert. Like uh I don't know, he has like four minutes per kilometer for more than 20 kilometers. Um but I'm I'm I'm close. Um I initially I forgot and then I did not um go anymore, but I participated. I I was in the stand supporting uh the colleagues with um um bringing new people to to multiverse x through exportal uh by handing we we had a stand where we were handing uh drinks, uh there was a stand where we were uh talking about uh the technology and how blockchain applies to different use cases. Uh as I was I was mentioning in the beginning, there was um Veropay with their system. Um so the entire NFC system was offered by by VeroPay um and um all transactions uh were uh notarized, and we used Andromeda for it. So uh we used the the DevNet just to make sure that everything runs smoothly. Um and uh we made uh a proof of uh functionality for for Andromeda and everything uh went uh went well. I think they will publish some metrics immediately after this uh podcast or tomorrow, um showing how many transactions we we had, uh showing how many people interacted. There was a raffle as well, uh showing how many uh people participated and were on boarded through X Portal, participating participated in the X in the Raffle and were on boarded through X Portal. Uh so yeah, I think uh we can discuss more after seeing the metrics.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, yeah, super exciting. And um how important was it? Or this is also just a like noob question, how important has it been in the past? Um, I guess how many weeks has it been since Andromeda has been on DevNet? Um, how how important are these tests? Like how many patches did you push? How many fixes needed to be done there?

SPEAKER_02:

I think we we had two official patches. So it was uh the first version, and then we had a patch for that, and then we had the second patch, but uh both patches were planned uh from the first version. So we wanted to uh bring in the the improvements in two stages uh over the initial Andromeda. The first one uh was um introducing some optimization on the storage and on the CPU usage, and then the second one uh because it uh took a bit longer to solve that one. The second one was bringing some optimizations on the on the propagation latency, uh the block propagation latency. Uh in so I'm not sure exactly when uh we pushed the first version on the on the mainnet, uh on the on the dev on the testnet. Uh I think before Easter.

SPEAKER_01:

Was it? No, no, was it well before Easter?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, it was well before Easter then. Uh we pushed uh pretty soon the the um uh first patch. Uh but then uh since we didn't want to add too much complexity on the second patch, we created the second patch uh in the sort of like it was not backwards compatible with the first patch. So we had to go through a network uh reset so that we test the entire flow of what will happen on the mainnet when we push directly the the final version. So this is uh this is the story. And for the second patch, uh again we uh we had the the solution ready, uh, but then we found some uh other issues which we wanted to fix just before pushing them to uh to the testnet slash uh devnet. So it took uh a bit uh longer.

SPEAKER_01:

And and and this is the classical process that we have. So it's not only testing on testnet and uh the public testnet and devnet. Um as I was mentioning before, we have several um test nets, uh private ones, where we run all kinds of tests. Uh we call them chaos testing, uh, even though it covers a whole range of uh test procedures. Um and that helps us uh prove and um prove that the architecture and the design works as intended, and only afterwards we go with tests in public where we invite, and this is a call for all validators to come and test on testnet when uh new uh clients are available. It's very important for everyone and um not only validators but also uh builders to test their products before going on mainnet and for validators to test all kinds of situations for the infrastructure before going to Mainnet.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, basically for the public yeah, no, go go for it. Yeah, yeah. Uh what I wanted to add was that uh for the public test net, um uh we regularly go there after, uh as uh um uh Mihay also mentioned, after we had all the internal validation done, and it helps to have uh multiple other eyes and hands uh on the test net uh pushing transactions and uh trying different uh scenarios. This time, for example, on the public testnet, it was a bit of uh uh like we were doing the whole thing. Uh our uh it was our own uh activity on the public test net. I think we had a bit of uh interaction from the community, but not that much. Uh and this is uh uh also why it's uh um I don't know, we need to somehow push uh this that we uh we this is why we have the different stages. Uh and this is why uh also testing on testnet is important because then if we move to DevNet and we find there an issue, then it uh it sort of breaks also existing applications on DevNet and it becomes even more complicated. It adds it adds a lot of time for recovery on the DevNet and so on. Uh and um yeah, so each of the of these stages has its own um uh purpose.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, super interesting. I I want to go back just just because you know this this is sort of the launch moment, but it's been a long time in the works, right? We we saw the other day, I think two years plus, 9,000 engineering hours, 50 something odd uh thousand lines of code um that have been written. Like where where does this story of Andromeda begin and how how long ago? And sort of what was the reason that that you guys wanted needed that that upgrade?

SPEAKER_01:

So uh just um I want to say a few things about the numbers. The 51,000 lines of code imply only the changes on the um um on the protocol itself and also VM, not the uh probably hundreds of thousands of lines of code for tests. So this was very important because um uh it's not like 9,000 hours were counted for the 51,000 lines of code. This is very important to know. Um, and about the entire Andromeda thing, I think it is very nice to discuss also about the fact that uh releases were called before, like long time ago, uh on the intended month.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, yeah, that that was uh a big oversight uh for us, uh at least at the beginning. Uh like we were um when you do a release, since you need to move through all these stages, like uh you need to prepare the binary, have it fully tested, and then move to testnet, prepare the testnet, prepare the validators, uh, run the tests uh on the test net, maybe uh do some um uh sort of challenge to break the test net and then move to DevNet. So it takes uh like each of these stages has at least 10 days, or this is how we originally started. And um since we uh from time to time we kept getting the idea that oh, I want we want to push this as well in the in the same release, oh we we need this uh really fast because I don't know who else uh uh really needs it and we need to support the integrators and so on. And then we kept delaying like the plan date. We had uh one uh release, it was called uh RC release candidate July. Uh and we had an internal joke that uh it uh got extended uh many months uh and we were still working on uh uh RC July. Yeah, so this is why uh originally we we decided uh we decided to change the namings so that uh it's uh at least um uh uh covers the intention, like what what is coming, not exactly the time.

SPEAKER_01:

And it should be easier for the community to engage. Like, how can you engage with the community saying okay, release number 1.3.8, release candidate 138 will come uh in I don't know what month. Um, and then um after the rebranding to multiverse X, we said, okay, multiverse, let's go to the universe uh stuff, let's go to the stars and so on. And um we came, I think Altair was the first one, if I'm not wrong. No, Altair was with the one with the guardians. I think uh was it Polaris? Polaris, yeah, correctly. And then we took one by one, and uh usually we plan ahead for um one year and a half, two years, uh high level, and in detail for at least three months. Um, and uh we had this planning up until Andromeda, which initially Andromeda should have been the uh improvement in in uh in latency, and it it was announced uh the X day with the three seconds and it yeah, it had one part because uh we had uh also for that different stages, but this one as well was uh like the the first time it was uh announced was supposed to also decrease to I think three seconds.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So that that was initially the plan that's um probably brought some confusion to to the community initially.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, but then um I think Adi, you had a breakthrough, how we could achieve the yeah, uh so the decrease to three seconds uh was initially because we wanted to push something faster on the on the mainnet, uh where you can see the improvement in uh in uh latency. Uh but then uh for uh for the subsecond, uh initially we didn't uh even uh uh targeted subsecond. Uh we targeted one second. Yeah. Uh but for that uh one second, um the precondition was that we uh push uh first before reaching the one second, we push first the uh parallel uh execution inside each node to have parallel execution of transactions. And we actually um also started working on that. Uh currently we have a working uh prototype uh for that as well. Um a proof of concept more. Um but then we realized that uh going to one second or even below uh no longer needs the parallel processing. We can come with that afterwards. So we reprioritized uh moving uh as soon as possible closer to uh to uh subsecond. Uh for now for the uh why we did this change, because yeah, we you you might say that uh okay you can do the same. You can go first to uh three three seconds and then uh move to uh I don't know what uh else. Uh but uh the parallel processing uh would have needed a lot of um uh testing time. Uh it's uh it's a bit more complex than what we've done uh uh for uh for um Andromeda. Uh and it also um needed some other um let's say not compromises, but uh trade-offs, uh it requires some uh some other trade-offs, uh which we didn't want to um to make before uh coming to subsecond. Uh now for the supernova with the um the breakthrough that uh Mihai mentioned, uh we realized that uh we can actually bring it faster. But since every uh different change, at least in the uh time uh duration of a block, uh requires um more synchronization between nodes and between shards. Uh it would have been a bit uh overkill to do it uh twice in a row. Uh so we wanted to directly move to sub uh subsecond uh after after Andromeda. This is why uh first uh we staged it like this. Uh we reduced a lot the changes that we needed to pack in a single release, and here just focus on uh on the consensus uh because it the consensus change was a uh really big change as well, and it had to like we've already seen how much uh time it took us to test it and uh um cover all the edge cases. Uh and then separately uh uh handled also the the block uh duration uh uh let's stay on this for a minute, right?

SPEAKER_07:

Because there is a lot of improvements or changes coming to that. Um, Mihai, you're wearing the Elrond hat. We've been hearing this is the biggest upgrade since uh the Genesis launch, right? What are, you know, let's say the the three to five most important improvements or even like an uh architectural overhaul that is so significant that makes this release in particular so significant for the network? And I'll I'll start with Ali there and then maybe you can add some thoughts.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh uh okay. Uh so I think by far uh the the most significant um uh change here is that we can have single shot uh finality on every single block. Um and uh previously, as you know, the latency uh even if you uh would decrease the runtime, if you do not manage to uh solve uh this like in a in a single shot, you would always need to uh to like the complexity is really high on solving uh forks and uh uh deciding what should be the canonical chain, what is the uh fork choice rule, and all these uh changes, especially when you need to synchronize multiple uh shards, which all can have uh uh temporary forks. So those uh confirmation blocks that we used to have uh before Andromeda and we no longer uh have with uh after after the activation, uh those were adding a lot of complexity uh on both notarization, especially on the uh notarization, but uh also inside inside the shards. Now all uh this has uh like the the complexity has reduced so much uh that we can uh do a lot more uh stuff during uh uh single uh round. Um and also I think we also the uh the this took uh or brought with itself also some changes inside the the consensus uh where we can also reduce the number of uh the number of um synch synchronization steps uh or communication steps uh between between nodes. So uh I I would say that this is the major uh breakthrough. Uh now the effect for that is that uh we have also decreased the latency by at least half uh with this uh release. Um and the there are others. I can I can go through uh multiple such, but I will leave also uh Mihai to add something.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I just want to to bring into the attention of everyone that um this is very important step that has to be done before uh reaching obviously, we will have an intermediary step, which is called Bernard, with A, Bernard, not Bernard, um, and then uh reaching supernova. Without Andromeda and the I the huge change that uh the consensus suffered for this, we cannot achieve the sub-segment finality. And here we should think about the initial because you you were mentioning the hat Elron, the internet scale blockchain, that was the initial um um narrative that we had. Thinking, still thinking about that and looking at the internet, like how many transactions per second does the internet need today? Well, emails, so if a blockchain would have to support the email traffic, it would need around 4 million transactions per second. If we would add to that um the the bandwidth needed for uh the Amazon CloudFront, we would add another 8 million to net. And then we can add the Visa uh payment systems like 65,000 or something, uh other payment systems like UPI in India and um uh global real-time payments like Swift, around 8,000 uh transactions, 8,000 transactions per second, and also Google search. So in the world, there are around 200,000 uh Google searches every second. So adding all those, we we could think about the floor of 10 million transactions per second, which are needed in order to support an internet-scale blockchain. For that, you you need a very performant uh, let's say, engine. And the engine is actually the client that runs on uh, in our case, three thousand more than three thousand two hundred uh validator nodes. Um and that has to be as performant as it could be. And with perf it cannot be only performant without being secure. Yeah, exactly. Because um Yeah, I left out one of the most important things. Yeah, go ahead. Um because security then we have seen uh in the late two weeks, I would say, lots of um breaches and hacks that happened in the world. And with the growth of AI and AI adoption and the performance that AI can can have and the context. So we have now models with more than one or two million uh tokens context for input. That means we will see more and more situations where um people will try, people, bots, I don't know, whoever will try, agents will try to find uh uh problems. And for that, you have to design uh software and uh uh an engine that cannot be penetrated. And uh yeah, that's that's probably uh because on the security I wanted to add and uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

For for the security, it was uh really big, like this uh change uh was really big because it allows us to scale uh beyond the original. We we used to have a cap on the on the number of shards we could uh we could have uh due to uh uh like the how the forks could uh could be generated and when uh we could uh uh finalize. Because it was uh also a probabilistic uh uh finalization and it also the um several assumptions were made uh statistically uh on the channel or uh starting with the assumptions uh of how we are uh working or what world we the consensus our consensus is working on. And uh the assumptions we started from were the BFT assumptions, but using those BFT assumptions and the previous consensus model would only allow us to scale up to uh maybe a hundred shards. And even uh in uh in the uh that situation, we also needed to uh increase the number of confirmation rounds once we go beyond uh a certain point, because otherwise it would not be uh secure enough to uh have, for example, metachain notarize a block that does not have sufficient confirmations. So in this case, uh bringing the one shot finality uh and also on top of having the uh high number of validators inside the shard compared to uh other uh let's say other layer ones uh allows us to uh scale much, much uh higher. Like we uh we have uh checked also what would happen with uh 10,000 shards or even more. Uh and it seems like it's uh uh pretty good, or at least the numbers look pretty good. Uh again, these are statistics. I'm not uh discussing here of um uh let's say uh bribe bribing validators to do stuff. Uh I'm just purely uh mentioning the the static numbers as in uh uh condition uh BFT uh assumptions. Uh but again it's uh really great to achieve this. Um and yeah, I I think it uh uh it is the foundation we we want to build uh on.

SPEAKER_01:

Very interesting that you mentioned 10,000 shards. I mean, um going back to the case.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, of course we need to pass some other bottlenecks, but but at least from uh from uh a security perspective, uh we have that covered.

SPEAKER_01:

So uh about that. So we had um demonstration or a demo last year in May or June when we had uh the sovereign shard. So that was uh the proof of concept or parts of the proof of concept of parallel processing and uh what one shard uh will be able to uh cover as performance in in a few uh months, let's say. Um and having 10,000 of those, that that's crazy. I mean, I said about the floor, which is I don't know, 15 million transactions per second, but you have a ceiling, like when I don't know, it's the prime prime day in in the the US with Amazon, they need I don't know, a peak of probably 50 million transactions per second or something for the for the um uh databases, you can cover that, you know. Um, but yeah, this is just um assumptions. Probably no one will need the blockchain as a pure DB. But now go coming back to our situation um and thinking about what internet is, which is uh a public network of networks where we have the assumption that um any person anywhere should be able to join and exchange information and services without big costs. You you pay some cost uh for the service provider, but uh in theory it should be um with no censorship. Now coming back to our situation in order for everyone to be able to participate, uh 10 to 10,000 charts and I don't know many how many nodes per chart, you would need uh uh dozens of thousands of nodes. And it's very important that in order to um keep the decentralization, for everyone to be able to participate in the in the network. And that's why it's very important to run this critical internet backend, let's say or infrastructure uh based on blockchain on normal gear. Like you have an old PC uh PC setup for gaming at home. What is normal? Uh what is nice.

SPEAKER_07:

I found I found a decentralization maxi to join us on this conversation. Hey Robert.

SPEAKER_06:

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01:

Hi.

SPEAKER_03:

Hey everyone, I hope you can hear me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yes, loud and clear. I mean, not that loud and clear.

SPEAKER_03:

That's good. Let's talk about decentralization.

SPEAKER_07:

Centralization. One of your favorite things, and maybe we'll bring in Robert like this like the the importance of being able to scale to even tens of thousands of shards, like we were just saying, or 10,000 shards, but while keeping this on low spec machines. Let's let's touch on that a little bit. Maybe, Robert, your your thoughts on like the importance of that and and how that's gonna work and how you guys manage that technically, because that seems to be something that very, very few other chains are even attempting.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know why they are not attempting it. So um if if there is like no decentralization, then there is actually no reason to be in the space. So uh the whole blockchain space started with this kind of full ongoing uh uh life on decentralization and permissionless access for everything you build on blockchain, and for that to have truly permissionless access, you need, let's say, a machine in every single country uh or more of those, because in case of censorships or in case of network state attacks, you always want some entry point into the system from which you can read or through which you can write into the systems. So I just don't understand why, let's say, after 15 years of technology and 15 years of blockchain, why is this kind of discrepancy between uh uh decentralization and why are people still pushing for centralized services or centralized solutions when we can see that uh like a from a pure cyberpunk idea that you need to have thousands of nodes which are running. Uh, anything less than 100, I wouldn't really really call it decentralized. Uh so uh in the thousands is it's a it's a minimum minimum. And we can see this because if you are right now in Eastern Europe, let's say we have all our freedom, in Western Europe, you we have some kind of freedom, but in a lot of countries, people do not have all access to all the tools we have, or to all the social media sites, or all to the all their financial assets, and the same can go on and on, and at any time the countries can change their rules and then stop the access for the people, and then you need these access points to read and write into the system, and you need a bunch of it. And the best is when you can run that access point at home, and people can join the party through you or through any other thousands of nine uh of nodes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

At home, but not only like think about that and coming back to AI, boats already generate more than 50% of all web traffic, and probably it will grow. I don't know. Uh I think uh I'm coming back to Amazon. They said that 50% of their code is already generated with AI, probably for testing. But uh I would say that um in this case, authenticity becomes a paid feature. I mean, you would have to pay a very small fee, like uh or a tip or a fee for for for it. There, I think every mobile phone or at least uh Canon and icon uh cameras have this provenance standard C2PA, and I believe that in the future, in order not to develop AI content anxiety, just because uh everything we are going to read, watch, or buy uh is will probably be generated, you would need some uh cryptographical design media uh at the point of the capture, and then you should be able to send it directly to a network like this. And given the fact that you can run a node uh a node for multiverse X on a mobile phone, and not a very expensive one, that also uh brings a lot of opportunities here. Still, probably with supernova not anymore, but still supernova, not exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

So, supernova does not change the requirements. We plan to have some changes in minimum requirements uh with uh parallel processing, but uh as well, uh I would say that at the moment when we will change the minimum requirements, though those will still be uh consumer grade uh requirements. So uh uh like think uh eight CPU, which is uh pretty common even now. Um and uh uh moving from uh I think we have the minimum requirements as uh eight gigabytes of RAM uh right now, maybe uh increase uh increased a bit. Um it by the way, it's still working with four gigabytes of RAM, but uh don't uh don't um uh use that.

SPEAKER_01:

We check the documentation.

SPEAKER_07:

I want to interrupt quickly um because I don't know if I can bring up the screen share or something, but uh we we spent a little bit of time not just preparing this, um, but preparing a little bit of a surprise, like a little watch party that everybody watching this can actually join. Um a little bit of an experience. Uh only took us, I don't know how how much time did we give ourselves for this? Uh zero, as always. Um, but uh parallel in in uh two days ago. Yeah, exactly. So somebody had an idea. Um, and here it is um an interactive experience uh where you can follow along uh with the launch. Go to Andromeda.multiversex.com. Um, and there's uh maybe some surprises waiting there for you. Just wanted to throw that in. Um, but now also throwing it back um to you guys, sort of like yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

The fact that the established connection is grayed out is intentional, so it will become active in probably uh 15 minutes. It should become active.

SPEAKER_07:

Exactly. Oh, maybe we we talk about that for for a tiny second here. Um, the purpose of this website is we're gonna see if the network is actually still working once the um you know Andromeda is live, because you know, I don't know how what your confidence levels are. Uh, maybe we'll do a quick round check in in percentage of everything going completely according to plan and still working uh after that. But this is a live demo of sorts. Um, and we we um made a little game that where you guys watching can actually help us check um if the network is still up and running and doing the numbers it's supposed to, and hopefully there will be some cross-shard transactions and and you can kind of have some some taster of the uh much faster um finality. But like on that note, like how how confident are you guys right now? You didn't seem very nervous when you joined the stream. Um, yeah, you you guys are all you know ready and and and confident this is gonna work out, Robert. What's your percentage here?

SPEAKER_03:

I think that times before this, not on the mainnet, but in all kinds of uh test nets and all kinds of internal chaos scenarios, which are even worse than what we have right now on the mainnet. So the mainnet is like a really chill environment for this, and we have we have tried all activations and deactivations and restarts and everything on the let's say worst case scenarios. So this should be a smooth sailing. So I am 100% confident on this. 100, not even a few fractional percent. Okay, no, you cannot leave leave. You know, we are in the blockchain world, so everything should be perfect. How about you guys? Adi.

SPEAKER_02:

Me? Okay. Uh yeah, I'm pretty confident that uh the chain will go uh as uh intended. Uh here I added as intended, as I know that uh uh there will be a missed block uh on every shard uh at the transition. Uh, but this was uh easier to implement it like this. Um otherwise we would have had to add a lot of uh more complexity. But anyway, I'm uh expecting it to be uh yeah, smooth sale.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and and I will go with um my colleagues. So 100% sure on on this.

SPEAKER_07:

So if the math, if I'm doing the math uh right, we're at 300% certainty, is that correct?

SPEAKER_02:

I I don't think you need to add the percentages.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, that's not that is not the math we use. If we would use that math, we have we would have some problems.

SPEAKER_07:

Uh yeah, yeah, this is true. This this is why I'm not in the engineering room. Um, but yeah, let's get back to to what we were talking about. So now, you know, we're we're nearing it's now about yeah, 20 minutes, I think, uh, until we will see the upgrade live. You now have the opportunity everybody to join and actually test it um right after that first block fails. Is that correct? Let's let's talk about that. What's what's what's uh what's up with that, Ali?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so uh you know that we need to change the engine while it's running, right? It's the consensus which is uh the one of the most important uh pieces of the engine. Uh so we need to switch uh from different consensus rules to new consensus rules um and uh uh re like reinitialize with the new uh view of the consensus while the consensus is working. Uh of course we could have made it also um like uh not lose any blocks, but uh it would have had uh added uh tens uh more uh hours. Uh so it's uh it was the decision to accept one missed block, uh add a transition uh to supernova, uh but then uh have it uh everything uh smooth. Especially since uh this is like every time we need to add um backwards compatibilities, uh transitions to new rules, new sets of rules. Uh these are pieces of code that will only be triggered once, but then stay with us um uh for a for a long, long time to come. Uh we are actually planning on um uh doing some cleanup of all the activations and the backwards compatibilities and so on, and prepare uh after supernova a new fresh binary, uh because it uh we can remove a lot of the complexity that was added uh during the years to uh solve these kinds of uh transitions. Um but uh yeah, currently uh it's it was not the time because also cleaning up uh that uh uh sort of code, uh transition code and backwards compatibility codes uh code, it will take a lot of time to test and again um uh add uh more engineering hours.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Speaking of which engineering hours and uh Andromeda, we have we have L.andromedias the second with us. How are you, sir?

SPEAKER_05:

Hey, how's it going, guys? I I heard there's a party here, so uh I thought I'd just drop by. How couldn't I?

SPEAKER_07:

I mean, that that is the point of a party. Um, it's it's more fun. Uh, if you join again the invitation for for everybody, you can actually sort of participate in this moment. Um, go to that website that's in on the screen, you'll find some fun animations and maybe some fun things to do uh during the um during the changeover. Um but yeah, Lucian, how are you doing? And like what's your excitement level and and like how much does this mean to you like kind of reaching this point after yeah, quite a long time working toward it?

SPEAKER_05:

Um very, very, very good question. So uh I I think it's hard to comprehend the changes that are inside the protocol that uh are actually just flipping the switch to enable uh after the the epoch change. Now um with respect to that, I'm I'm uh confident that uh my team, our team actually is uh doing an amazing job. And but I still on the same time always try to at least uh walk you through the engine room. I mean that that's the only way that uh at any point of time people would be able to comprehend, understand, appreciate actually what's happening underneath. And uh uh yeah, I I mean the progress that the team is has has been doing uh uh over the years and uh also the the seriousness, also the regardless of times, weather, conditions, sentiment, whatever you we've been all feeling by scrolling X or Twitter. Uh those guys did not care about that, and they have pushed day and night. So uh I just pause here and just say uh first uh deep respect for for the engineering team, uh especially pushing this out. I mean, uh changing the changing the engine and or or supercharging the engine while the rocket is actually uh flying uh or in the space already since uh 2020. Uh that's something that we or mostly in blockchains is uh uh not common. Or or at least it it translates mostly to forks or other network. Rather, you just rather launch it on a new network instead of changing the consensus method, changing the security primitives, uh, and also go going live and and uh chatting and uh having a tea party while while while this entire the entire uh implementation goes live. I mean it takes a bit of madness or craziness. I was wondering who who who came with the idea actually. Uh but uh very very good very good point. I I just uh shared the the the the the the raw thoughts uh that I'm I'm having actually when uh thinking about it.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, it couldn't have been me, this this stupid idea and and and and all of this. But um the I I want to know like from each of you, maybe there's a moment also in the past um in the past months or years even leading up to the breakthroughs that are now going to go live that stands out to you, like you know, being in the drawing room, having like a discussion, or or you know, being in the bathtub and and figuring some stuff out like some ancient people. Like, was there anything um whoever wants to grab the mic, that a sort of moment that stands out to you on the way here?

SPEAKER_05:

I'll I'll give the mic to Adrian first, uh then uh just you too.

SPEAKER_02:

I guess there were several moments, like all the it was also kind of an incremental uh uh breakthrough. We came with uh all uh like also small steps, uh which added up to us uh being confident in trying to add more uh things. Like uh previously we didn't even think about uh going sub-second uh because uh we were aware of all the operations that had to be fit into uh very small round, uh how we could manage to uh to improve those. So we took them what one step at a time, and uh, I would say at a certain point uh where we saw that okay, we are left uh with mostly processing time during the the round, so let's try and uh make it make it smaller, but also uh not to lose the uh too much of the throughput. So I think from that moment on it was um uh a bit of uh um I don't know, uh thought power put into it uh so that we can find the best uh best solution for it. Uh but once uh once we get the idea, we will find the solution as well.

SPEAKER_03:

Anyone else with experiences that you need to create some kind of uh sorry, I thought you were you uh uh I think that there are like moments when you are in a room or you are within the engineering, and then you are start to think about like what is the main problem right now. Like when it came up about like Andromedo and Supernova, uh it was from my perspective, it was an incremental uh schedule transactions. So the first 25% of the time we were using for processing, then scheduled transactions came, which added in such a way to have like 50% of the time in the processing overall, and then we said, okay, now let's have all the time for scheduled transactions, that would mean like let's say 90 90 seconds, uh 90% of the time, and then uh, but how to improve that even more? And scheduled transactions was already something like an asynchronous consensus, so the step was in such a way that okay, let's eliminate this, uh, like not eliminate but separate those two things together, consensus and uh processing fully separately, paralyze it completely. Then what are the problems you want to solve? Uh, how to synchronize these things, how to create a receipt, how to create an equivalence proof, how to aggregate the BLS messages uh all in all uh together, and then for every such step, you are finding better and better solutions as the time goes on. It it starts with one thing, then it incrementally it leads to some kind of explosion. That's how it was in my mind.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, thanks for bringing the the um scheduled transactions because I almost forgot that we had uh that uh intermediate step. Like it was a bit of uh I was amazed that we didn't come with the idea sooner, because scheduled transactions was already the the let's say the prototype for uh supernova. And we had that since I think 2020. Uh but uh since we did not uh put much thought into uh how to improve it after that, uh, because we like sometimes when you start working on stuff, you also get uh sidetracked uh by all the other small stuff you want to add. Uh like we had uh uh improvements on the staking. I'm not saying that that's uh small stuff because it was big when it came out. Uh and we had all these other improvements like adding new features and so on, that uh physically you do not have enough time to focus on something else. So once you try to figure out what is the most important thing that you need to do, uh then you start prioritizing the right things and uh uh check the things again and find uh find the solutions.

SPEAKER_07:

I was gonna uh a new special guest, but we might have some some sound issues. Let's let's see. Sir Andromedias, can you hear us? Check check. No. Okay. Well we'll do some some more testing uh back to DevNet for this one.

SPEAKER_03:

Um actually, so I was I think that sometimes sometimes this kind of crisis, just one thing, sometimes of crisis would uh force you to make a breakthrough or to start think about something new, something which needs to to step up your game, that you hit the limit, and then the limit, the capacity is not enough. Then how to make it, let's say 100 ticks more uh better. And then if if the same question would have been asked two weeks uh before or three weeks before, you would say you are crazy. But when when you hit the ceiling and you have to break it through, then the ideas just start to pour in.

SPEAKER_05:

I think uh yes, we're going live in um uh I was gonna say it's time to start a countdown, probably, right?

SPEAKER_07:

And and no better person to do it um than Benny.

SPEAKER_06:

How are you, gentlemen, sirs? Just in time for the countdown. My my new countdown. How's everyone doing? I mean, uh, I could not be more excited uh for for this one.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh and uh just uh looking forward to to see the champagne pop. Um 40 seconds.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's not. Can we share? No, can we share this screen?

SPEAKER_05:

I think we're we're yes, I think we're uh should be. Let me see if it's very exciting.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, you should be allowed to share a screen, and then I can bring it up on the screen here. But um, this is the actual countdown. Do we have the seconds? Does anybody want to take it's already done?

SPEAKER_04:

From 23, I think we should count.

SPEAKER_07:

All right, it is on now. We're officially live. Um, and officially on this website, andromeda.multiversex.com, you should be able to interact with the chain and see if it works. Um maybe, yeah, Lucian, if you have uh your screen open and want to share it.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, definitely. We can we can maybe monitor the yeah, misses already already shared uh a bunch of here it is. Are we still live? Yes, we're live, and actually the uh the nuances are increasing on all the shards. We we see already that uh most of the the I think the the epoch change shifted or happened already on uh on uh yeah all the shards. Let me just try to zoom in and see.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yeah, you can you can see there also the missed block.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, exactly. So so uh in practice, actually, what what happens here is that uh in order to measure the the entire um or what let uh changing the question maybe what's the simplest or the most uh most uh stupid version to measure what all those brains actually are building and putting together in the software. And if the assumption is that actually the blockchain would would if it works 100%, it means that on every single round with uh in in the past past uh epoch it should produce a valid block for every slot it should. So what it does actually it just goes and says, Okay, let me count how how many rounds have passed in the new epoch, and then we also count how many how many blocks have the entire network managed to produce, and that gives the the coefficient of hit so-called heat rate that actually uh says that uh over like if we look over uh uh a time span of one epoch, it had uh uh a heat rate of uh close to or 100% uh heat. So all the algorithms, everything planned, everything scheduled, actually it uh it worked exactly as expected. But going back to Andromedus, uh we're live, the chain just shifted and changed and optimized the the finality inside.

SPEAKER_04:

Let me just share maybe another screen just to uh give you a bit of uh I see everyone is clapping and uh cheering and and so on in a in a dev in an internal uh let's say introspective dev way.

SPEAKER_07:

Yes, yeah, we didn't bring the confetti. Um let's let's see the new screen here. Yes.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, yes, so so uh pure pure beauty. In this moment, I'm I'm really euphoric.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, so so um, yeah. Let me just scroll down a bit. Uh so what what we're seeing here is the log output of of the binary of the each of the node binary uh shard zero producing uh epoch change, notarizing, uh uh including mini blocks, uh smart contract receipts, yada yada yada. Uh same same for shard one, uh just going through the uh let me see. So shard uh shard ID2 going going right, and then uh also uh Metachain going right. Amazing. So uh Houston, we have zero problems.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, successful launch.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, awesome stuff. Awesome stuff. Congrats, sirs, and uh network.

SPEAKER_07:

I mean, I'll pass it to you, Benny. I mean, like what does this moment let's say mean mean? I mean, we can do it personally, of course, also, but let's start with the network. In your view, for for formerly Elrond, now multiverse X, now Multiverse X, with one-shot finality, like what does that sort of mean for for right now and for the future? And and also if you want to have like a a personal word of of what it means to you, like getting to this point after after five years, that'd be that'd be wonderful as well.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I mean, uh it's crazy to see it finally live after so much effort um and discussions and so on. It's absolutely um amazing. And I could not be more um, let's say, excited and focused at the same time on the next steps because I think, in some sense, Multiverse X has been perhaps the most advanced blockchain in the world when it comes to scalability and decentralization. But what we've learned is that the market cares a lot, Mr. Market cares a lot about speed as well, in addition to scalability and in addition to decentralization. And so with Andromeda and Supernova, we're placing the multiverse X network at the very frontier. And uh a simple way, maybe to translate this is up until this point, in terms of speed, the network has been like a baby, crawling a bit and and moving around and and so on. With Andromeda, it has graduated, promoted to walking. And it it walks strongly, you can see every step, um, and this is one-shot finality. Uh, you you just have um a radical simplification of everything we had up until this point. And with supernova, we're transitioning from walking to running, like with maximum speed at the very frontier. So I believe that for every user and for every developer that has ever used multiverse X, Andromeda brings some very tangible and clear benefits, but you see them especially when you look a bit um under the hood. Probably what you've discussed a bit uh with with Adi, uh with Lucian, with with Robert, with Mihai, was exactly how things look in the engine room. Um, and now we've switched a bit, we've outlined the benefits for the users, the benefits for the developers. But the simplicity of Andromeda is greatly underrated. Um, because we've we've taken a lot of things out to make this work, and now this prepares the stage for uh supernova. So um again, I think sometimes we look too much in the future, and this is just a great milestone that is done. We've mentioned it, now it's really done, and it's really live, and taking that in and enjoying the moment for um one block for one shot, and then moving to the next steps. Um, I I feel that's uh that's really uh really amazing. And um I I also believe that during the next few moments, hours, days, the community, the builders, um, the users will just be able to enjoy this um new simplicity while at the same time understanding that this is not the final step. I've said this before, um, and I'll state it again. I think we have so many things to do, so many other things to just build, to improve, and so on. Um, it's it's really great to have a milestone done and appreciated fully. And then um it's also um good to see how many other things um are are um in place. Aligned and especially just closing the loop with Andromeda and with Supernova. It will feel not only that we're back in the race, that we're leading the race. And that is that what I feel we should be doing always. And I'm I'm happy to see things live today. I've been repeating this for the past, I think, uh one or two months, that Andromeda is really here now, here now, that it's live today, and you just need to state it 30 times, like with the affirmations.

SPEAKER_06:

Um, you need to look in the mirror and state it, and then um at some point you'll see it become a reality. Yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_07:

Maybe we'll just do a quick round. Sure. Amazing, yeah, exactly. I want to pass it on back to the engineers, maybe just quickly, sort of like for for Adi, Mihai, and and Robert, what's what's sort of like the the next things, immediate things you're focusing on right now? What's next after this upgrade? Maybe also a word of of um what it brings. I'll I'll start with the headquarters and uh Adi then Mihai and then throw to Robert after.

SPEAKER_02:

Um okay, so for um the next steps, at least in the protocol team, uh we have the QA team fully focused on uh testing Barnard, uh, which is the next uh release. Uh and also um uh we are already in full swing with uh working on supernova. We have simplified a lot the design, which will uh get us uh even sooner to uh to have uh supernova ready. Um but uh yeah, so it it has also uh some uh tricky parts with which uh need to be uh treated with care and tested carefully. Uh but uh otherwise we I I think we're already in full swing on uh working on uh supernova. And this uh this will be the next major milestone before the following one.

SPEAKER_01:

I would like to build on top of what uh Benny said and double double down on Andromedius, please. My my new name, my pronouns, Andromedius, and how important this one-shot finality it is, and I would even go further and say that now the community will split into those who understand why and how important Andromeda is, and those who will understand how and why important Andromeda was after the supernova release. So those are the two the two uh um let's say parts, but for everyone it should be clear that Andromeda proves that we can ship. So probably we slipped a week or two um or a month, but the upgrade is live. We've um seen it, that it works, the the chain stands, the transactions are being processed, everything runs as expected. Um probably um at the festival um people will feel it as we had uh the marathon, um, and the marathon was on on um experienced on top of of the devnet just to have the Andromeda. But supernova fixes everything. That's why Bernard brings, let's say, a plus on the decentralization, so the on-chain governance will come. We are already started, uh, we started preparing the documentation and videos for all the builders in the community because they also have to take care of their products. Uh, once we transition to the supernova, that will be more interesting for everyone. I mean, the impact will be 10 times uh uh bigger when the supernova will happen. But um those are technicalities, even though people will understand subsecond, what does it mean and how it will feel? But that's what will enable payments, ticketing, and real commerce and enterprises and everything to finally click and say, Okay, yeah, now it makes sense. Now uh yeah, now it works. That that's and this is what we have to build. Us as uh uh engineering, us as DevRel, us as um uh multiverse X community, and um the the real hard work uh started uh six years ago, but it becomes uh uh heavier and heavier. Which and this is this is perfect. This is what engineering loves.

SPEAKER_07:

Nice, Robert.

SPEAKER_03:

I just recently finished like the Barnard upgrade and merging on the meta to Barnard, and that's uh that looks good, so it will be a full preparation to launch that. On the other side, uh it will be a lot of effort on supernova, so bringing everything from processing from VM from tooling uh for supernova. Uh that's one of the main focus. In the parallel, there are finished asynchronous V3. Uh maybe on the economic side, we have to let's say prepare the network for local dynamic free market free uh fee markets to really scale on that part as well. Um like the chain, like when we are in this kind of fast-pacing moving technology, there is like the end game, there is I would say no end game, it's just a continuous game of innovation and improvement all over the or all at every step, and also we are stress stressing a lot of AI AI agents to let's say uh have stuff faster and safer and in a more secure way. So that's my the the next three months will be again interesting, but the the life doesn't end there, it will be always come something new and new and new and more and more and more.

SPEAKER_07:

Amazing. Thank you guys so much for the insight. I mean, maybe we'll do one more check on the on liveness here, um uh Andromedias the second, and then um we'll kind of wrap it up with uh some closing thoughts. I'll try to bring up the screen again. Maybe again just walk us through what we're seeing here and like what what you know how you rate the health and and how is everything going as expected.

SPEAKER_05:

Definitely. So so maybe maybe a good uh good point would be the the way maybe just stepping out stepping out or zooming out a bit of the just simple context, what what what feature, what name it has, and so forth, maybe just visualize trying to visualize a bit what uh what what we do or what what we work to get today. So think about like this. Let me just zoom in first. So mostly most of the blockchains are just this, right? So what is is pretty much a single single threaded computer that just builds one block at a time and builds on top of that, and then pretty much the finality is built and given in within that single box, right? So uh that's that's that's pretty much the first the first step to look at. Now, if we zoom out, we figure out oh, okay, so we finally invented or or added the this kind of uh this kind of new computer that is from the single threaded or from the one thread, one CPU. Actually, it has it has multiple CPUs that paralyze the execution, right? Now, once we have that, the same path as general computer architecture, what we did actually was that we first uh invented this, but then we figured faster or more efficient way to coordinate the threads to coordinate what goes where to be processed and how we make sure that the data that is actually being parallelized or sent to processing, as in the the the video that we we shared the last days into the factory, it always actually stays 100% 100% correct, and it uh other data. Now, in order to do that, and uh in order to do that, actually, that's what the finality was. Actually, so you have consensus and finality, and finality is actually just giving again uh the the correctness or the the the guarantee that the data that you are going to move from left to right or in between the threads so to say it will 100% be correct, and at any point of time there will won't won't generate any kind of corruption in within the state or in within in within the the this supercomputer memory. Now, uh what in order to do to achieve that, it took a longer step, and uh it was uh uh I think given the the the the settings on which we started seven years ago, seven, yeah, seven years ago to build this kind of architecture, I think we proved and made a lot of progress. But because of this kind of progress and uh and and constant uh improvement on on the one hand uh on the one hand, the technology improved a lot, latency improved a lot, and it will continue to improve, but also the brains improved a lot, and uh actually the effort continued to build that. We achieved that actually today uh a 2x or actually slashing first the finality or the confirmation of any single data that is being produced in between in within the each of those uh threads uh or shards is in instantly final and it can be communicated to the second, to the other thread that is is ready to process, and in the next block, actually, it could immediately process, or that would be one of the prog or the further upgrades that actually Adrian was uh mentioning that will come. So, right now you produce here one, then after six seconds is pretty much being authorized here, and then sent to the destination, for example, which is the third block. So, in practice, what would will happen actually, it will it could it could look like that those will immediately in the next block be produced, uh we will be included in the in the next uh block produced on the destination. So, this is in in short, maybe just to visualize here, maybe also zooming in uh in case uh maybe let me know if I should just zoom in in uh again. So, what what it does actually in order to check the liveness and the finality of the network is on the one hand, you you cannot see here, but there's a red red dot which is measuring from a sample of nodes from mainnet the current nonce uh calculated or measured at the specific point in time, which should be less five minutes, it's and and we overlay all the data sampled, actually, it will be uh pretty much equal to uh all of the nodes. Then uh and that actually uh happens on each of the shards. Now, if we go and zoom out again on the the the um uh second part, which is actually the the yellow, I think, or the blue the blue line. So in order to to achieve or once the the blocks are produced on the shards, they are being sent to the metachain, and the metachain includes a proof that uh uh in the next block that they have it has seen and included the the header of the the blocks produced underneath. So actually, if we measure, if we count this kind of uh this subset of of nodes, hey, what do you know about shard zero, shard one, shard two, and we overlay the data here, then you we should have uh almost perfectly aligned uh data set that actually says, okay, those uh those are in sync. And then once those blocks are being sent here again to to the to the to the shards, and uh the shards include the the the data received from the metachain, they should be able to answer uh the following question. Hey, what have the what have I included from the metachain that the metachain says that knows about me, which gives the 100% finality. So that would actually just close the loop and uh yeah, confirm. So what actually happens today if until now we had a uh a broader or a larger uh data or time span until those kind of steps would have happened. Now it just happens in uh uh I think one-third or even even lower than whatever we had until now. So this is just in practice, zooming out and then giving the mic again. Sorry for uh the science corner, but I think we're allowed here, right? On the on this, this is one of the podcasts. This is the podcast for it. I took over the other podcast. I think we're still gonna have some listeners after after the last episode. But uh again, big congrats muting myself uh uh and uh dropping out again. Pleasure being here.

SPEAKER_07:

Don't don't drop out yet. I I want I want to pass it back to you one more time. I think um we'll do a closing round though, because I think let's say from a technical uh perspective, we were able to um cover quite a few things. Um and now just want to go like one last round of like sort of closing thoughts. Um, this moment has happened. Congratulations. I was, you know, like I can just admire all the work that has been put into this and and really kind of amazing um to see everything leading up um to this moment, and it's it's live right now, and it's only the first step of of many. And I just want to um, yeah, just just some closing thoughts on on the moment from from each of you. This time I'll start with Robert, then I'll pass it to headquarters, and then we'll go to the two Andromedias.

SPEAKER_03:

A moment about what?

SPEAKER_07:

I mean you're I mean you're just gonna say it's time to build, right? So so I I can just say it for you and then we pass. No, but like closing thoughts on on today and and sort of like next steps.

unknown:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know. The next steps are already in the works, so I'm pretty happy that we we achieved this kind of this kind of things. We were leading on sharding, and we are still leading on sharding, and then now we're not let's say that we can lead on core mechanism. That will be a bit that we could say let's say processing and stuff around. Let's build uh improves that everything from the internet can be put, and that's a beautiful thing to do, and everybody should do that. So use all these kind of AI machines. Uh, may Google build a few nuclear plant plants to have their own energy for the for the AI agents to work directly on the blockchain and get some awesome awesome apps. That's the next thing to do.

SPEAKER_05:

Good, good that maybe that the Robert doesn't run a mainnet validator on his laptop right now. It would have to be Apple. Your your connection is unstable, Robert. But uh don't don't no worries, we forgive you. I I hope you don't have a mainnet validator with you uh right now.

SPEAKER_03:

It's low spec. It's low spec. No, but maybe maybe I shouldn't have give some tasks for jewels.

SPEAKER_07:

Always building. Um uh Mihai, you're next, and then Ali.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, as I was saying, when um when half the web is or is going to be bots and agents, I believe that the blockchain uh combo is actually the new organic label for digital goods. So the future is bright. And uh thinking about uh Robert, if a phone can validate a shard or a chain, I believe that um censorship resistance stops being uh a slogan and uh it will become actually a feature that anyone can access.

SPEAKER_07:

Ari, closing thoughts.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know, I don't have anything uh very philosophical to say here. Uh what I'm gonna focus on next is uh bringing supernova as fast as possible to the main testnet, and hopefully the next time we meet, uh we'll have another successful launch. I think we will meet. Oh, is it is it sooner? Okay, great.

SPEAKER_07:

Amazing. Uh Lucian, your your closing thoughts on today.

SPEAKER_05:

Um yeah, big, big, big, big, big, huge, as uh the president would say, huge, huge uh step forward uh for for the the entire uh multiverse ecosystem uh I think um as uh as mentioned before, uh we overclocked and superpowered this uh this supercomputer that we built. Now the challenge that I'm taking for myself and I'll uh try to focus on to make sure that those threads, those blocks that we produce will get filled by 100% as soon as possible. That's how we will measure that what we are building will work and uh it generates and produce actually valid and valuable data consensus around the world. Um that's my closing note. Um I'll I'll take it, I'll take it on me and uh uh and also whatever's on me is on the team. So I'll but I'll just uh state it state it out. Uh that's uh that's I think that's the next challenge be besides uh all other ones.

SPEAKER_07:

Amazing. Benjamin, passing up. Sorry, I I forget your your new name, Andromedius, um, with a new profile picture on on Twitter, I see. Um so that's also in in the works. If you still haven't visited uh Andromeda.multiversex.com, uh, you can participate in testing the network, see if it actually works, if if this data that uh Lucian has been showing isn't fake. Um but yeah, uh your your closing thoughts on on today and um yeah, the next the next days, I suppose. You you teased us a little bit with some milestones and all of that the other day. So um, yeah, tell us next.

SPEAKER_04:

Indeed, indeed, simple milestones. Um just focused on the next steps. But uh the the big thing is this Andromeda is now fully live. There is no excuse. All the people that are uh full with excuses, always um coming up with something and so on, they have no space anymore. They cannot um state the same things and quote them and and so on. Andromeda is live and it's a great step in simplicity. In order to really take things to the next level in a counterintuitive way, you first need to simplify to the maximum to really take things out, to really put them in a way where once you have Andromeda, uh once you have Supernova live, interestingly enough, we're going to beat the top other blockchains in the world in terms of speed, just because of what we've done with Andromeda, the fact that we have the one-shot finality. So I'm very happy that the benefits of what we're discussing about are right now live for users and for devs. And then the next milestones are clearly supernova, as we've discussed before, and um Adi and the guys have mentioned, um, filling in this blog space, filling in the demand, uh, making sure that we connect this great architecture with the market. And during the next period, what people will discover will be that there's a tension always to reach product market fit. This is why it's not only called product, because if you only need the product, the product you have. It's product, market, and then fit. And you can see the tension there. That means narrative, that means simplicity, that means demand, that means revenue, and those are the hard things. The hard things on which we want to always drum the beat, have the difficult conversations, and push extremely hard. Um, this is why I'm going to the US again during the next few days. Um, I need to be in the US because some of the things I don't feel are happening without us being in the US and having the relevant conversations. So very happy about this step today. For one second, for one shot, I uh can take it in and and smile. And then with the with the next blocks, with the next breaths, uh, we're just looking at the next gray steps that uh we have in front of us. Congrats to the validators that have been very active. And people have seen that during the first day, in fact, everyone, like 96% of the network, was already live. That's a massive uh like receptivity and alertness by validators from around the world. We initially wanted to actually broadcast all the validators as they upgraded, but then um we thought uh like uh it would have been a bit too much. Uh but uh yeah, it's it's really great to see the people alive, the builders alive, the community alive, and the market is there. There is this massive return to fundamentals that is happening everywhere around the world. AI will just hit everything so hard that you'll see us basically discuss about the AI progress almost every day, almost every week, because I believe every company will sort of become an AI company or it will become obsolete. So we build the architecture, we're pushing it in the market, and now um these are the milestones that give us the reset to become extremely relevant to the market and speak in a language that the market loves, the market already prices, and we're adjusting and adapting to that based on the feedback and the conversations we've seen. So um just one good day with good progress and many more steps forward. Thanks a lot, guys, and community and and uh so on, and definitely see you on the other side. Uh, as Adrian said, if if we don't meet again until the next release, uh we we either meet only then or we make the release faster. One one of the two. Let's let's see which one works faster.

SPEAKER_05:

Benjamin just took over exactly it's been a Benjamin just took over the technical podcast, but no worries.

SPEAKER_06:

You're welcome, Benjamin. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07:

It's been a very good day for science. I think we can agree on that. Um, yeah, been been amazing to to see and feel your energy um during this time and during the launch. And I think um that that's an infectious thing, and there's definitely momentum building um on Multiverse X, which is uh what we're doing here in this podcast. So thank you all so much for joining. It's been really fun. Congratulations to the team, congratulations, congratulations to the validator community, really amazing job, as Benny Moon just mentioned. Congratulations to everybody who contributed in their own ways, producing content, supporting, showing up every day, buying EGLD, you know, all of the things, the the small and big things that that you guys do out there. Uh, thank you so much. Please go and uh test the chain. You'll get a little reward, uh maybe a new PFP. Um, you'll see probably all of us switching uh in the next few minutes if we haven't already. Um yeah, looking forward to seeing everybody very, very soon. There will be new updates uh coming in the next few days and weeks and months. Um, so it's it's gonna stay exciting. And yeah, we're looking forward to to um talking to all of you and pushing forward alongside you. So um yeah, thank you all so much for being here. Um we'll close the stream here and and say goodbye. Thank you, thank you for for being here and talk soon.

SPEAKER_06:

Bye bye. Bye bye. Let's fucking go. Bye everyone. Thank you. Cheers. Let's fucking go.