Mastering the Pickleball Reset

 Resets might not make the highlight reel—but they win matches. In this episode, we dive deep into the mechanics of great resets: when to use them, how to stay relaxed under pressure, and why high-margin targets are key. Plus, Tanner breaks down his “bunt” technique, and we discuss the highly anticipated TruFoam Genesis 4 (dropping 7/23!)

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Transcript

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Brodie
Welcome to Pickleball Cheat Code, the show for competitive pickleball players who want to level up their game. We focus on advanced strategies for experienced players. Stuff only the pros really know. I’m Brodie Smith, I’m a 5.5 level player and a coach, and I’m here with our co-host Tanner Tomassi.
Tanner
Hey, everyone.
Brodie
Tanner is a 6.0 level player and an APP national medalist. Today we're covering everything you need to know in order to master the reset in pickleball. At the end of the episode, we're going to be discussing a new CRBN paddle that's around the corner, which is pretty exciting stuff, so stick around for that. CRBN is offering a discount code to Pickleball Cheat Code listeners, so be on the lookout for that as well.[Theme Music]
Brodie Tanner, how we doing? You traveling around more lately? Are you—you finally locked at home? What's going on?
Tanner
I was actually just in the Cayman Islands for a tournament. Yeah, the guy, it’s—it was a crazy thing, but I stayed at this guy's house—he like, runs pickleball Cayman, and he has a house with like 16 bedrooms, a water slide. It takes like 15 minutes to just like walk across the whole thing indoors. It's unbelievable.
Brodie
So you were just in Peru and then Cayman Islands?
Tanner
Yes.
Brodie
What's next?
Tanner
I'm going to Nicaragua next month.
Brodie
I forgot you mentioned that previously, but I can't even believe the amount of traveling you're doing. That's insane. Are you ready for that?
Tanner
I'm, I'm loving it. Yeah. I like, I'm trying to just get the surfing in. I wanna, I'm like a 2.5 surfer.
Brodie
How did you do going without pickleball? Because I know you took quite the break recently. Did you immediately pick it right back up after your two week hiatus?
Tanner
No, it was a week hiatus in Peru. Yeah. After the first day, I, I was good to go. The issue is you're just not getting better. You're just like staying stagnant, you know?
Brodie
Makes sense. All right, well, speaking of getting better, today we're going to be diving in—we touched on this a little bit before when we discussed transitioning, but we're going to be locking in on resets and pickleball. So to reset, I mean, to set the stage to reset, I mean. Yeah, a reset in pickleball is when you're under pressure, usually in the transition zone, and instead of trying to counter or bang it back, you know, you want to hit a soft shot that lands in the kitchen, switches the momentum, switches the point around, and, you know, really slows things down and puts things back in your favor. It's not a flashy shot, it's not an aggressive shot, but it's what keeps the rally going. And it's one of the most important shots in pickleball.
Brodie
So a lot of the times, Tanner, question for you to get the ball rolling on this is players will get in these 50/50 situations where when they're facing pressure, they don't know if they should rip the ball back or soften up and hit a defensive shot. This could happen at different areas of the court. Maybe you're working in off of your thirds. Most commonly for this conversation, you're in the transition zone or even when you're around the kitchen line, maybe just a step off. What are some key things that you're looking for in situations like this when you're trying to figure out whether you should soften up, reset the point, or apply that pressure?
Tanner
I think if your partner is out of position, it's probably best to soften up just so if the opponent does get the ball back, you don't get beat. Whereas if your partner is in position and a ball comes, I would say, like thigh height or higher, that's when you want to try and attack and be aggressive. But if it's just below thigh height, so say like knee height or lower, that's what I'm going to try to reset. Because theoretically, from that position, I'm going to have to be hitting up on the ball. When I attack, I want to attack, like through and down. That way it forces my opponent to hit up. If I'm the one hitting up to my opponent, it's going to be, it’s just going to be difficult to win. I can't win on that first shot.
Tanner
I'm almost initiating a hands battle, and then I have to clean it up where the other way, I can just finish it in one, maybe.
Brodie
So as long as you're hitting at least a line drive and you're not hitting it anywhere, any way of an upward trajectory, is that kind of how you look at it? Because, I mean, when you're hitting upward too, you're going to be able to get top spin and have a ball land in and apply pressure, play and catch people off guard. But, you know, how do you determine that? Like you said thigh height, that can mean so many different things. Whether you're approaching deep in the transition zone or you're pretty close and you know, maybe two steps away from that kitchen line.
Tanner
Yeah. If I'm, if I'm dead in the middle of the court, say dead in the middle of transition zone, and my opponent is taking a ball from below the net height, most likely I'm going to be able to attack that just because it's going to be hard for him to get that up and down. If it's anywhere net height or above, I guess that's another way to look at it. Then I'll try and reset. But if they have to hit up on it, that usually allows me to hit down on it.
Brodie
Okay, so as long as you’re—okay, so net height or above is how you judge it. What about resetting? You know, because you can also reset in hands battles. A lot of the times people will catch you off with like a, an intense speed up. I kind of hit a reset, a soft block on a lot of those too. I'll consider that a reset as well. How do you determine when to hit those shots? And is that something that you use often or are you always countering when you're at that kitchen line? No matter the ball?
Tanner
The mindset that I use is you always want to counter. Pretty much every ball. The only time you want to reset is if like you're caught off guard or surprised. So like if you're in a hands battle and they hit it like really low to your shins, like say bang, back and forth three, four times and then on the fifth one it gets to your shins. I just instinctually, along with, I'm sure you, and probably some of the people listening instinctually, I'll just like soften up. I'm not going to try to attack a ball after we're in a fast hands battle. As soon as it gets low, I just reset it.
Brodie
That makes sense. I, I see myself resetting a lot more, even when it's like waist height, especially on the back inside. And the reason being is as a lot of people know, my backhand counter is not very strong. If I get on the forehand side or middle, I'm pancaking that ball and putting it away as hard as I can. But if I get caught slightly off guard in the left and I don't feel like I'm going to get my weight rotated around and it's because of a lack of an area in my game. I'm resetting it and softening it up a lot and that can throw people off. But I feel like I'm kind of missing out on opportunities there? I don't really know. So.
Tanner
Yeah, no, that's okay.
Brodie
Thank you. Thank you for letting me know it's okay. All right, well, let's break it down to, you know, the exact technicalities of it. So everybody does this differently, and I see a lot of different discourse about what the proper form is along the shot. So paddle angles and paddle positioning, let's say you're anywhere in that mid court area. What are some keys that you look at for that paddle positioning and that paddle angle to ensure as much consistency as possible and, you know, really high margins on those shots so you can put the point back in your control?
Tanner
I'm going to let you know. I'll let you in on a secret. It's the secret sauce. It's a new shot.
Brodie
Is this the. Is this a Pickleball Cheat Code live? It is. All right.
Tanner
I am taking full credit for it. You're going to love it.
Brodie
Oh, God, I'm nervous now.
Tanner
It's my best shot. It's the reset, but it's called—this is what everybody calls it here where I play, it's called the bunt. Like all my friends, they call it the bunt.
Brodie
That's what I've been saying that when I've been coaching for years now. I, I use bunting. That's my—how I frame it for people that.
Tanner
I got to tell you why, though. It's not—not like a literal bun. I got to tell you.
Brodie
Go for it.
Tanner
This is the key to it. You keep your bottom hand stiff on the paddle.
Brodie
Okay, wait, bottom. Okay. So the one that's not touching—
Tanner
Lefty, I'm going to do it right. So I'm going to keep my left hand stiff on the paddle and my right hand really loose on the paddle. Let me see—
Brodie
So the one that's choking the neck of the paddle, that part right, that's closest to the paddle faces, that's where you're. You're holding it tough and you’re—.
Tanner
Tough. Yeah.
Brodie
Okay.
Tanner
That way, like, the ball, like, kind of hits and it's like, sturdy, but then the top hand's very limp like this. And then it looks like you just bunt it right. When it hits off your paddle, it's the most effective shot ever. That's how I hit all my resets.
Brodie
Every reset is the same strategy, essentially.
Tanner
If it's. If it's in front of me low like, and I can catch it out in front, obviously, if I'm expecting it low and it, like, comes into my stomach, then I'm going to just tighten up everything. But if I can read it's just like this, like, bam. Like, just like that.
Brodie
Okay. And then what's the soft hand doing? Is it adjusting the angle? No, no.
Tanner
Yes. This is what it does. I'm gonna explain it right now.
Brodie
Break it down.
Tanner
That soft hand allows it to be like—so when it hits off your paddle, it's like more line drive. You back, where if you keep both your arms stiff and your paddle angles up, the ball is, like, lofty and they can just reset the next one. But I'm hitting, like, line drive resets. That's like—it’s unbelievable.
Brodie
Well, let me. Let me push back on that. A line drive reset. Don't we want our resets, at least this is how I teach bunting, is we create the consistent angle. I usually teach, like a 45 degree angle, and this is how I hit all of my resets. So we're coming in. I plant the ball. If I'm in that mid court, and I know they're going to be hitting relatively down at me, I'm setting this 45 degree angle right here for the paddle, and then I'm letting the paddle do the work. And then the bun is just using, like, our legs and our butt to hit the ball, and we're just kind of shifting that way and not adding any effort into it.
Brodie
And then the goal, obviously, with the reset, instead of a line drive, I like the bunt to be able to arc over the net and then drop into the kitchen line, forcing them to hit up on the ball. So I just want to clarify what you mean by line drive.
Tanner
I think with mine, my bun works best if it's like a short hop. That's what, like, I can kind of line drive it back. I see if they're hitting it and I'm like, catching it out of the air. Yeah, I do. Yeah, Yeah. I. I gotta change what I said. Yeah. Off the short hop, I like to, like, bunt it with a limp wrist. But. But as soon as I catch it out of the air, it does have a little bit more arc. But if it short hops, I kind of like line drive it back. But it's so effective because it actually puts them on defense and then we crash the net and we're on offense.
Brodie
Okay. Where is that ball gonna land? In theory, if you're short hopping, if the opponent's not there, like, where would that ball drop? And is that gonna land in the kitchen or is that still—
Tanner
Yeah, it lands like, right near the kitchen line. And then they, like, try to get it out of the air, but they can't. They step back.
Brodie
So then what's your paddle angled? Different. How is it different from out of the air versus short hop, specifically? Because for me, out of the air, I'm doing that 45 degree angle.
Tanner
The air, more trajectory.
Brodie
And then when I'm going off the balance, I'm going completely 180, or whatever you want to call it, 90 degree angle flat. And I'm letting it backboard and creating, like, a wall, and it backboards off the wall, and then automatically, like, the spin rotates back over.
Tanner
I would say. I would say that's accurate.
Brodie
Yeah.
Tanner
In the air, more up. When it bounces, more flat.
Brodie
Okay, we're on the same page. I thought I was going to lose you for a second. All right, so the bunt is yours. Are you saying it's yours?
Tanner
No, I swear. Nobody hits this shot. I haven't seen one like person—
Brodie
What do players do differently than what you're doing then? Because, I mean, so the difference is you're applying that loose hand on the back, and then you're pushing forward versus just not moving.
Tanner
Other people, like, slice it. Other people, like, I don't. I don't know. Just the form on the bunt, it looks so, it looks good.
Brodie
I love it because you just let the paddle do the work and you're putting in less effort, which I think is the key to pickleball in general. You know, less effort, less. Any less movement is always more. Right? So, I mean, that's. That's key for all of your shots. So many people will try to add extra swinging to it. They'll. They'll try to slice it. So many people do a slice out of the air, which drives me nuts. I don't get that, because I feel like that your timing has to be perfect for it. I see a lot of tennis players do it, and it looks. It looks cool. I'm not gonna lie. It looks slick. But I feel like it's risky and it's not something you can rely on.
Brodie
Whereas with the reset, if you're applying those simple paddle angles and your balance is set and you're getting your weight behind the ball, and then you're applying that bunt methodology that you just described, I feel like that is the number one key to success to that consistency, is letting the paddle do the work and making sure that, you know, like, just in baseball, like, you're picking up a ground roll ball that you're getting your chest behind it. You know, if you're catching a ball, too, we want to get our chest right behind that ball. So I see it coming to the left. I'm sliding, keeping my chest forward to the left side, and then same thing on the right side. So that's kind of how I like to think about it, too. Like I'm playing defense.
Tanner
That's a good way to think of it, I think.
Brodie
Okay then, let’s—so now that we discussed angle. The other part of the paddle angle is I've seen you do a video on this, and I do, I, I hit it differently. You have your paddle, like, parallel to the ground when you're hitting these shots, I feel like. Right? Isn't that how you do it?
Tanner
Only if it's outside on your backhand side.
Brodie
Okay. Okay.
Tanner
Outside your backhand side leg.
Brodie
So if you get pulled. What about forehand side? Same thing? Tanner No, uh—
Brodie If you get pulled wide—
Tanner
Guess I have it sideways, kind of. Yeah. Yeah, I do have it sideways. Yeah. In between the legs though, down.
Brodie
Okay. So paddle tip angle depends on if you're getting pulled out wide left or wide right. On that reset.
Tanner
Right.
Brodie
It's going to be more parallel to the ground. But anything that's straight in front of you. Are you directly 180 degrees, paddle tip down, or do you have a little bit of angle on yours? Mine's slightly angled.
Tanner
Maybe. I don't know if it matters. Maybe a slight angle.
Brodie
Yeah, it doesn't really matter. And then what's your grip on that, too? It's the same bunt grip. Right. And then you have that soft backhand tight on the top wrist locked, right?
Tanner
Yeah, I just. Not tight, but just, like, stiffer. And then the top hand, which would be my dominant hand, is loose.
Brodie
Gotcha. Yeah.
Tanner
Like limp.
Brodie
All right. That's the Pickleball Cheat Code of the day. I love it.
Tanner
I think it is. I know this probably makes no sense to some people, but I think it will.
Brodie
We'll add some. We'll do some social media clips on this, and we'll break it down. Are you even a baseball guy? Where'd you—where do you get that from?
Tanner
I grew up playing baseball.
Brodie
Just like the usual, just played until Eighth grade and then stopped maybe?
Tanner
Yeah. I didn't make the high school team. I got cut.
Brodie
Tanner. Tanner. No. Well, that's why we're here doing paintball, pickleball, and surfing. You know, those are the right things to switch to. All right, so for resetting, I have some Do's and Don'ts that I prepared, that I wanted to run through to make sure that, you know, we're getting the proper message across of what's important and what's not important. So focusing and this applies to whether you're doing a reset back towards the baseline or resetting really close to the kitchen. Some do's are—that we already talked about—are softening your grip, relax whenever we're in that transition zone or hitting any sort of reset, making sure that we have that calm mind, calm body, and we're not getting too tense because that's when extra movement comes in and that's where your shot gets thrown off.
Brodie
It's way better to be, you know, very lackadaisical, if that's even a word, and let the ball just land short. You know, missing short on a reset is better than missing high in some sense. Obviously you don't want to just hit in the net, but I see way more errors where people are just popping these up 80 times in a row and they're never missing short. Obviously when we get to higher level play, you know, you're going to want to find the happy spot there, that happy medium. But I see way more pop ups than I do soft shots. Stay on balance. That's something that we also broke down as well.
Brodie
And then getting your weight under the ball, having the mindset of making sure that your butt, your hips, your chest is getting under that ball and you're putting pressure in an upward trajectory, I think is so important versus like hitting flat at it or coming directly at the ball, I feel like that changes everything.
Tanner
Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
Brodie
There and then some of the don’ts—let me know if I'm missing anything here—is swing at the ball. I see players try to swing all the time, only swing at it if you're getting a ball that's going two miles an hour and clearly you need some effort into it. But if anything, we're going to be stepping our body and letting our body hit that shot more than anything. Don't try to add spin. When players are trying to add spin, that's where you have to get really good timing. You know, it might be flashy and you might hit it cool every once in a while, having heavy top spin or something. But I just don't think it's very worth it at all. Another key don't is aim for small margins.
Brodie
When people are resetting, they'll go for this like crazy angle cross court or they're going to reset with some perfect lob or whatever it may be directly over the middle of the inside foot. Let's just go get the ball over the net, simplify the process, and just get really high margins. If you hit it really high, that's okay. As long as it's landing in the kitchen and then they can't hit down on it. That's as simplistic as you need to make it.
Tanner
Right.
Brodie
Standing upright—another don’t. We discuss the importance of how it is to get low and then like we said earlier, adding any extra movement. Less is more.
Tanner
Right.
Brodie
Anything that I missed there?
Tanner
I don't think you missed anything.
Brodie
Let's go home run. I'm adding another baseball reference there. Bunts and home runs today.
Tanner
Good.
Brodie
Okay, so let's say you're getting drilled with a hard shot at you. I want to help determine when to hit directly at the opponent. Like, let's say somebody's giving you a really intense shot, right, and it's not your typical reset. Some resets are pretty easy and they're not too hard to get back in the kitchen. When are you just kind of deflecting and hitting it back at your opponent versus hitting that perfect reset, going for that middle shot and hitting, you know, working into the kitchen? Because a lot of players do that. I'll see pro matches and they find ways to extend the rally. They'll be getting a really tough shot, and then they just hit it directly back. It's kind of like a panic bailout shot.
Brodie
I touched on this with Allyce Jones when we recorded previously, too, so wanted to get your thoughts there because that's something that I struggle with. I see myself always going for the perfect reset or the perfect drive. What are your thoughts on that?
Tanner
I think that if it's coming super hard, like you're saying for the example.
Brodie
Yeah, it's just a tough reset.
Tanner
I'm not thinking too much. I'm just trying to—trying to just get it back. If it's high, it's fine. I'm just trying to not miss it into the net. It's when it's like I said, like net height or like slightly below or slightly above. That's when I'm like trying to do the perfect reset. More cross court, maybe towards like the cross court players inside foot. Yeah, just since the net's 2 inches lower. But if it's somebody's hitting like an overhead or something, I'm just trying to get it back.
Brodie
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, you're getting an overhead your mid court and so when you say you're trying to get it back, what are you trying to do specifically? Just drill it at them and are you just trying to hit out on the ball or, you know, is there a certain spot you're aiming for in those bailout moments? Maybe lobbying it as a successful strategy?
Tanner
Yeah, if somebody's really cranking it, I'll try to reset, like, the first one back, like, to the other person just so that—because that one person's in rhythm. So I try to, like, hit it to the other guy. So then the other player steps in front, and maybe there's some confusion. Say that happens, but the same guy stays with it and cranks it again. I'll either try to drive it back or try to lob it and then drive it and then reset it. Almost like a third shot. Third shot pattern, you know, ripping it at you. You drive it and then drop the next one.
Brodie
Okay, that makes sense. And then. Yeah, because I see people just, like, they'll be back, and they're just drilling it at the team, and they're waiting for their moment to find that proper reset where a lot of players just go for the reset right away. Maybe they're off balance and they're reaching, and instead of just smacking it back, they'll try to go land it in the kitchen. So that's something that I need to work on more, is finding when to do that, because I think players miss out on that a lot, too. Of, like, when to hit your defensive shot versus going for that drop. Right. Yeah. Because I was—I noted some things on, like when not to reset specifically is, you know, when you're completely set at the kitchen. This is what we talked about earlier, too.
Brodie
When you're completely set and you're locked in. I think this is what you touched on as well. That's when we're not resetting. That's a point to counter. It's better to counter. Get a roll in there, too. And then if your opponents are ever out of position, like if you're in a transition zone and maybe the team has shifted based off how you're playing mixed, for example, go for the angle there. I know I said don't go for the angle as much in other instances because we want to go high margins. However, going for angles in those instances make the most sense. And then speaking of angles to your reset, you're, like you said, you're going for the middle more than anything. Right. You're not Going to be going like straight ahead to avoid getting Ernied for example.
Tanner
Yeah. I always try to go diagonal to the inside foot.
Brodie
Oh, diagonal inside foot. Because that's where people are just going to get jammed the most often. Right?
Tanner
Just like the net, slower, more distance for you to get it in.
Brodie
Because they're not—I feel like they're not as able, not as—it’s not as easy for them to create offense from that position too, right?
Tanner
Yeah, I guess it depends if you're on the left or the right. Like if you're on the left and you're going left to left, then it's like to the guy's forehand but just with the net being lower. I think it, I think it's best to do it that way.
Brodie
Here's a quick segue from that. Here's a situation that I see myself get into often. I have a preference and I see players struggle with this all the time. Let's say you're in the reset transition zone. You want to go for a reset. You're getting a ball that's coming into like the gutter zone right in no man's land and you're stuck in the middle. And you know, people still make this mistake all the time because a match, it's hard to catch up and find what to do at the right moment. Would you rather be stepping forward and trying to catch that ball out of the air if it's like right in the middle of your decision making pattern or would you rather take a little baby step back and short hop? For me personally, I'm always leaning back, making sure my weight's forward,
Brodie
right, but I'll take a little step back and I try to short hop. I feel like I'm more comfortable with a short hop than out of the air. But then I also see other players stepping forward and taking it out of the air all the time. So I don't really know what is the most optimal and what's the most consistent in the long run.
Tanner
I've asked like top PPA players this exact scenario and they say it's preference. I know for me it's a, I prefer to short hop it just because I have a really good reset. Taking it out of the air like from your shins is probably more difficult. So I'd say I try to avoid that. But some players like that. I can short hop, but I like to short hop the resets if possible.
Brodie
That's, that's how I see it too because that’s—because we're both doing the bunt, you know, it's easier to bunt off that bounce. I feel like off the bounce, too, there's less action happening as well. For example, somebody might hit a really heavy top spin shot, and if you're trying to catch that out of the air, that might dip really hard at the last second. But if you're trying to short hop it, you get another quarter second of being able to read where that ball is going to land and then be able to catch it and put your paddle right there. And when you're going for that short hop, a lot of the times I see people will step into it and, you know, like, try to push the ball at it too aggressively.
Brodie
But like you said, with that bunt, we need to make sure we're square lined up with the ball and just barely moving forward and letting that paddle do the work.
Tanner
Right. Yeah, exactly it.
Brodie
Love it. Okay. I feel like we covered it. I feel like we broke down resetting really well. Anything else that you want touch on before we transition to the end of the episode here, Tanner?
Tanner
No, I think that's everything. We really covered it all.
Brodie
All right, Well, a lot of people have been hyped about this. This has been getting a lot of traction. I'm not sure, full transparency, what day this episode will be releasing in terms of when our next paddle shape will be releasing, but we do have the Trufoam Genesis 4 shape around the corner, which is super, super exciting. I've been maining it. It's been my baby since I got it this past month, so I can't wait for this to go out to the public. Tanner, I know you got your hands on it pretty recently, essentially what this is, and it's going to be—it’s something that people have been asking for a long time. This paddle is a true hybrid shape of the new TruFoam, and it has an arrow curved top. So the hand speed and the
Brodie
The build of it is just optimized entirely for swing weight and twist weight, allowing you to have crazy hand speed. Whether it's off the bounce and you want to drive with it or you're in a hands battle. That thing just cuts through the air like butter. So I've been obsessed with it. I know you got it recently as well, but I haven't chatted with you about it yet, so I wanted to get your thoughts there.
Tanner
Yeah, I've actually been loving it too. It's very noticeably faster in the hands. It's really neat to see that it's like that. I was thinking that I should almost put more weight on it because it's. That.
Brodie
That's what I'm seeing. That's. I was thinking the same thing. So I'm. I put the same amount of weight that I used for the two. That square shape and because the hand speed's a little lower on. On the two shape but the two has a sweet spot that's just giant. But I'm noticing I'm getting a lot more power with the four and way faster end speed. So now I feel like I can too a lot more spin, especially on those. Yeah. Drives and everything. So it's been so fun to play with. What do you think? How much more weight do you think you're going to add and where are you going to try it?
Tanner
I don't know. I'm still messing around with it. But I just took it off my two and put it on the four and it does feel light. It's like insanely quick. Like in the hands battles. I feel like I have an extra like half second on the people. Like it’s just unbelievable in that sense. I also like it too where I think the advantage it has over the two shape— just because that's what I've been using— is
Brodie
Yeah.
Tanner
With the, with the top curve like that it's way easier to get around the ball. So I've been loving it for singles. And then also just like speed ups and dinking in general. I think it's. It's almost like better. It's just you have to make the trade off. Do you want that? Where like—
Brodie
Exactly.
Tanner
It's basically more of like, it’s more versatile in every aspect. However, the sweet spot is smaller. So I'm a right side player. Do I want, you know what I mean? Do I want to be able to create or do I want super consistency?
Brodie
Yeah. And since the sweet spot's a little higher up too, I notice I'm so used to just making every single reset with the two. Speaking of resets with that square shape, since it's like that shield like we talked about, so the resets were a little easier with that. But then you have that trade off of getting like a way back—You get more reach. Yeah, it's. It's small but it's just enough. And then it's easier to get that two hand backhand as well. Well with the neck. So it's been fun.
Tanner
It's a really cool shape.
Brodie
It's a cool shape. I'm excited for it. And then. Yeah. So hopefully we don't have to bleep this part of the episode out, but really excited to finally get, you know, that out in the wild there, which will be exciting.
Tanner
I agree.
Brodie
All right, Tan, good chat, and as always, much love. You have a great night, sir.
Tanner
See you. Brodie See you, Tan.