לעוף גבוה- איך עושים שינוי בקריירה? חופית מארחת את עדי שיראזי

מה קורה לנו כשאנחנו מרגישים שהקריירה שבנינו במשך שנים כבר לא מתאימה למי שאנחנו היום?

בתוכנית מיוחדת ואישית של “לעוף גבוה”, חופית גלב מארחת מתאמנת שסיימה תהליך אימון משמעותי ועשתה שינוי אמיתי בקריירה שלה.

זו לא שיחה על “עזבתי הכול והתחלתי מחדש”.
 זו שיחה על הדרך האמיתית שמתרחשת לפני השינוי: על הפחד, התקיעות, החרדה, תחושת האשמה, והשאלה הכואבת שכל כך הרבה אנשים מכירים מקרוב:

“אם אני משנה כיוון עכשיו, האם אני זורק או זורקת את כל מה שבניתי לפח?”

דרך שיחה פתוחה, רגישה וכנה, ניכנס לעומק התהליך: מה קורה כשהזהות המקצועית מתחילה להתערער, איך נפרדים מגרסה ישנה של עצמנו, מה עוזר לבנות ביטחון מחדש, ואיך אפשר להבין שהעבר לא נמחק - הוא הופך לבסיס לפרק הבא.

זו תוכנית על שינוי, אבל בעיקר על זהות.
 על קריירה, אבל גם על משמעות.
 על פחד, אבל גם על בחירה.
 על הרגע שבו אנחנו מפסיקים לשאול רק “מה אני עושה עכשיו?” ומתחילים לשאול:

“מי אני היום, ואיזו גרסה שלי מבקשת לצאת לאור?”

תוכנית מרגשת, מעמיקה ומלאת תובנות לכל מי שמרגיש או מרגישה שמשהו בקריירה כבר לא מדויק, אבל עדיין לא יודע איך להתחיל לזוז.

לעוף גבוה, על קריירה ייעוד ומשמעות

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Volmania Sevelani Lech kodem call Lole Fahed Lole Fahed Gamim Zeloy Tzliah Gamim Zalometzliach Vegamim Zelo Cal Vegamim Zalomiadi Tariqla is Vizetovid Le Deber Velechatefella Tetlet Alihim La Zig Zelochol, Achresha City Tashinus Bemet, or Bemeod and Ashimis Vivi Shaluti, Echasita.

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Eleloche Lot Ktenot, El Sheloch el Erichatzmi, Shel Bitchhon, Shel Mashmaut, Shel Pachad, Shel Pridami Agirsay Shenashelanu, Shel Lifamimash la Gidla Tzmi Litraot Belathil Mashu Khadash, Shel Omitzlail Velavin Mien Yahshava Khadash. Arbean Ashimve Nashim Shumagimela Ilanikudazot, Bibachutzakoli Holi Raot, Meule, Yesha Vuda, Yesh Nisayon, Mascoritfkid Nutz, Lifamima Firu Yeshatzlacha, Avalbifnim, Mashuk Valo Shakit, Yesha Yefut, Lifamima Firug Vakurime Zet Kiut, Yesh Khosel Khibu, Yesh Kharada, Ve Yesh Ashma, Sheolek Yachadanu, Veshta Mishpat, Avalmaiman Yosevet Kolze. Maniosevet Kolashanima Shawotele, Vepobenai, Matil Atali Chamiti, Kishinui Karriera Amok, Lobalim Hoketavar, Ubal Azola Nulavin, Mami Toha Avar Mam Shitanuala, Vemakvar Lom Sharetotanu, Mami Tohani Sayon Shelanu Nechis, Elo Kishurin Tzavarno, Ezemhiranguvarlomu Khanototero Muchanim Le Shalem, Ve Ezo, Girsa, Hadashashelanu, Me Vakeshit Lik Bel Makum, Asbo, If Gosh Adi, Wow, Khan Mitragesh, Shaitkan, Kirubish Vilizad Hagavash Perik Me Yu Had Khan E Thach Mamasali Bashabik and How's He's Mm?

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Codem Collani Tragesh Lyotpo, Vanisme Road's Man, Any Di, Ani Garab Mabasar Mish Losha Ladim Madimim Aninis Walital Vani At Halti Hora Be Thomito, Avaditi Shamana Monshanim, S Tem Sashim, B O'Toom, Tafkidim Shanim Bel Bot Humanik Verlosam, Vela Kenani Khan Vot's Michal's Mantati, Veta Nico, I Met Shawman, Vaux, Makore, Lanu, Pitom Shanumargishim, Shakarias, Kano Bacchabin, Valachnu Bemaslul, Mimagyotela, Begimanashim Bikarnashim Show, and Maslow Slal, Shu Lai Lobat Bachati, Bipiton, Bashlav, Shakroba Makomse Matiman.

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And I boze a metaphorization, and we have to do it. Mashahomash Mr. Primletzman was the Ms. Grot Moshaftiochimitam Shannim. So merit Imani Gvarbaniti carriera, as any leaf not carrier, Khadasha Imani Begil Mesuyam, as an illali ashwa her, Vized Hagavhadrim Shannbeshomat, Indiana Anikwabate, Karovla Orbaim, Anigwarbate, Anashiman Shimonikbachim. Gamin Zetov, Gamin Zelotov, in Zenio Daklit Mudit. At Beneu, as an Mudrach Matalich, Van Yusafti Badimiona Mudrach Thelekaz, Aninuseta, let's me ilmana machavot, Veshani Peshut, me ka mathila argisti pauter Klilut Keshaniukal La Rut Vanika andi Mamash Rgasti Taklut Bukat meh, Khresha Tergasti, Zoreket metaphor, yeh put the faliot myshkolet. Mamash Mamash Kaha. Veh ma za prikta, ki luekze pitom pitomat mbrigisha tiholala sote ala sharavazi.

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Zakief. Ken pitomishitra k shut, wa tumet wow, laze y tsliak.

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Zemiamakoma ze shelti khosma kom shell.

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Kirimachum is the climala, khatikosa rika zemet kashella nuli famimla, vinches or to the vars, the lirot na ma com shell eziku ya shlive matid shelly atidli pitom ulay kiru bakati kosemelazo and yhwali kbosheta o lamikoshevich tat'sbayu viote.

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Shell okay, as anio veritalih, ve okay ani kenroa manihola, odla sot, masha nik varyodacha nihola sot. Pitoma vinga mama andienote, my di rotarasot as um comas shel piton is a kekele mashmota's ephani kenim tamashmout, ath dibano al ulaimeledim, ulayveti pool, ula mashui masia tat yo terg dolamasianikudatit, dibano colasmanal ephainyan sheshba mashmout avoi, kamuvani mareca, shelkonoshkaram dinase, gama kelikhazak ba siar shalanu umihoshevich andatani arabenishima, a thushazoti, shanimeto samashu a chair gadimasha city, ba muvan shala siar, o khbitlo, love def kay shit. Kilo shat megialma comstamerik Who Bemet sim dwarim bale mashmaut, bale erch, dwarim shla, zonamite, nohano kefno rame, seprana ma coma voda, tatotherapia, kani tat, adler of therapia, shel Victor Frankel, the be met a varimete manashim the barz shadaves.

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Hamakomazel La Nuba Baolam, Verot Maulam Mashinikralamze Zorekuti, Lamakom Lemakom shel Konuko Lemao Lam Korelli, Karali Lemau Koreli be Aleph, Begama Makom shell, atamate the mamashburako khya fashaza mamash karali shell mat bata kutam sheli, mani uzala stotpo, so mma anyetlichlit kabel, or layat's kabel, or can itlot elekem sheloch elem rechuvaken the shelochem. Machovot lumat, bitoma makoma proaktiviaze, mkoma proactiviza, makom shakhuimaspiabo, but ma coma ze shel ma ani rota wefani khuali trom. Lumat makom shel anikovat, anikovat lefani rozala lechet. Shaveshma komach gamla gia gama shha hot shel opatha utnathla galisham, a fumat shm trillif all kumal machal shadekta kotaim bitom vistakel, gem shem shad the court, biton. Wow, is a si italia deom. Gamasiazua specifitrackla izor shanya eithainu boastumerat, Inu bezor modus, and it's a gishlach.

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Wow, ma li cat mani or lechet. Wow, the mamash muzar.

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Shelly, but whom shelly pitom that shoot and a shimma shallim shallam shumimutanwashav, but him batkufazot. Eli bebo the nashimbit kufotkale that kufotchel shimamas.

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Never hossera hiburat's me, colour ma comicha hossa kibu at smiv, shata erchat mishu kzati ored ki hol shatanishak, the gamashiale gatat'mi. Echanya girsa hitovashik shani bayfugoshim ishu. Echanimar shima ishu, umishi kilo yeshbaze a monamon hasha shot. Yeson mi trikshimishinuimani local kahuevichinuimas bepa shut. Lostam e tibotomakomkul kachovishani. Avalze anyhoshevich isha yeshta kolazeshureleha vomeleha mashu lona shoakem tovato, so, tiched a beralze, tarichem La Vin Manhnosim Heret ki the calme od Lish Erbotanicuda, a Mona Monshanim, the Faimgam and Ashini Shimbo Tomakom Ada Pensia, anymai Mamashkaha. Their bo Tomakom Kiseno, Vikis a Mukav, Vikis a Tovano Frid a Vitua, Smyazal, Collad Varim Shot, or the Holada sodloy that's Biglalam Aphadim Vahasha Shot, Va Bilbul, Vachuvno Hut, Vola Mukhaz. Oh, Tamoti, okay, yes, Migvankomocha nihula like lika neselem, a filo daybe kalut, ve. Velocity the kizabrahi kalava hittiv eat kilo. Asmaprinazo tani, and a city mashua her vanny, kenne as tiveken, ek sham tita, tson shelashushu kzatio tergadolba me comota zat the mokyo tera, well mashushukati tergadol be balashpa.

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Now tagershotela inashim ve yeshke elishomli bevadout, bevadutanium ifukashim manita sodvaim, manitrichla sodbaheim Vani Lukhala Notime Thuva, can bevadut, numer five kafto, shani chola li ktozala, bid the uk and it's a kvaram shav. Had it varim shitla vin, khalichavayot, the vota alich. La khanga magav, la vota na gid imishum vekash. Shilt ki ut mshalikolo zekah, la mota nit lotomidovit le k seemt vurim beka eleko tvalimah be diavagvari kolo gid shayasha ma mashu kaze, o be ma komshel ani lo dat, wani lomi huberet, wa ni lomek hubarla si ashali o na gid itali mita manech amrali animargi shasha ni leolamlo i kita ma shmauchili mani loya sem mashu me od mod msuyam. Zabi yukamocha, nishim thimla vota ali khm itali khim za deva, shit mezhterag line. The reggachel bemet a mentalitela mentalit shel la kvot, shel a vin, shelit khaber bezrat, arbemeot ul, we kmosha sinu me kafote, vela sink tatrega, eta sechhla sha bata beli kabela met' spin upnimi, the reglash nya zemeta regal praktit, shel echa nachno simde, vzegamifamib regal shitha regal khakoch mia, krega, kh. Bidiuki, anhumamas yetanul mortaklovetanul comine ifha lish, shalav, shadai nif shallagam shodesh moshe kazat mina the kmze haar ishkalesh gumumi kumoma sachashan, kumo masu sho medi mola panim shan yload mydiuk. Vizze shushalaf kazeh baregashumovrimoto vzeta alichi, tahibuat's mi Ken Bigamze Berega sh Magia kheleka prakti pitum zeniamiti.

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Butum regga, khshava, shamik mafrid, machelikan, ki pitum za fakliot me atminora khvemhil, biboin na vin mato evedwemato, be matova le okay, timte misot, tishlechhilimisot, boi nittof korothaim, tishlechi korothaim, the pitom of fakhliot me odmoodomiti.

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Asbite supramet, ka shidragutha, mdi ma kata sita vota omekwa knu ka simu baim kootrain maya sham. Why share dishes clumberic, we're call me stra, we mechtav ni shavekmehle comach, blah, n sort as be mezikas be toma linkedin, shaloya, pail me uh, vine is to game sort annu and apogam talikhu tat ka, aval pitomze kshikona khara vodazenovana kef.

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Aval can eight sham ki be metani koshevicha regal a prakti kmo sheti arta, ekol kakha shuvaba talich, kizetovia fere do bera tsmecha, velavin, machashovli, manio eve, machalomot, varit so not, aval blia makoma z shegam dokotha be me, shlikikoim. A di tagidilishalak korothaim andi wata kortoma pushiashit kadem, kiloi tbemakom shani blia voda, shaza lachatsu mashmo theater. Avalzam od prakti. Uh okay, nifgasnukba kama pamim dibarno zikakno, ine katavno, zila derek, as the me odmodazarly.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

And ma com shut. Yesha dain of deadline share, velose of ni, no, ma diam gum can shimadim verki and shum the varala gidalaval can as well. Bukwidafka az ma comala karti, achlata, and a shap to him and book, mama, bookshell is a colo, pshaka ni spa, shavza as man a thila wood colour ki, ata pesher, ki will fial logot therapia, andu put a pesher, motivatia, limto, eta devar, yash and forzbo, anda, anda, anda, andak, boy to pranuktafkina kada si chinuma khana.

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Kunko zapua mukav. V tkalti a vod be makrom shani ka jppii, amacholem ta'ma yudi. A tafkidu me odra kavzeniu projecte, man yoved samud la nasiva la mankal shem shnana shimadim, siyasham zemashem odma od kefli. Shamout mb pan ideologi mesha vim shul ka be ratzon tov letovat chwama yudi, shama siyashi, kol kakhmash moutit shanikama ba boker van yumat. Wow, as a kef, shme kumot, sh be met, echhle shaper eta olam shonakhimbo. Kik's nine kolkach kalh shovlet's me. Yo temat's me. As aniloida timzet of kid kayaivanisher shamo netzah vele anzod medigal gelsam mik karzen, and a shimbe met me odhutiim vemadim ve kefli, and he kamker, ve kefli vani love, vanilo vedet tachaloh, namo tia iladim kolyom.

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Meser me ule kezoti besof, basoft and with mr. Mr. Mr.

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Shvusham shel Maye vemi a zoli vemiotzi ve ech echan mister vema kolyon. Pitonza faklot kef la kumba bo kevela ted ve kolion dvarim khadishim vasia ako kachman yen. Ghosha na shivgoshmash vel mod wow wow wow. Kalani sham cloas la khalutin, thatilat of kid. Shadbaba lamushu shonebash money mala, pitong, alemida itali mord mod kasha.

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Boyonit sa ye kilo zakvarod, zali m'mod koshe, atadat mashu anikhoshevet, theze machad rumsa nyhirbidanalim, gambas, said na ochani mavira, akdomit koshvim shhay anachmurutim achaim, rak, shakolyevarod, kine po samoti kazel, shakolevarod, vidafka, anachnu lomachhosim etavarod, anakhmechhopsimi famim ta koshi. A koshi aze uze khadim sh goromimlenu litragesh, so machum kablim ta kostomerat kam viboker Bashash muni a shaftilad, zayakikal, o tetitaim, Mia Marshizahim shakum khopsim, Victor Frankel Kaleze metachnueti, kshachnulonim same bemeta noeti asze, a metachanuetechazish to me merit to wumbi a shit kumatim, ken zeshkazemeta, shelasia, shitchut, shelletina, sheltouman, shel koshigam ken lit mudani batisel shani magiave a call and it modamon d coletel dwin methala, cheshani strim shana bola, chomesr shana weso ni mum shan e bolam suya bolama bitua sh varikartite call, and you ram shuk dash legamrevan commashani rot meas and you wita and you rot corenit. The only fenate coronet mashani kama mishkolet kolasman at korenit and you wita it shoot ahmasia met rumashahme.

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Ani p shut me odmodman yenli, vani koshevich ze shata shanny shani osama shush tokani gamlum medet vanimakivato fakim vani t'any ma shoshani mit khadeshet, kizebemet kef ve noakal isherba ba mi sh betano kha ve pitom lil mod kolyom mazani khosat baitavani, kolomagba googlal mvarimshan ilme kira vani, shutlomfsikali modle mazalia nibedimanashim kulkahmadim shimo kahbed varimshan, zohagam lil mod mehem, as the behmet me od kefli, veme odmanyan, Vani mechelefle kolhat vele cole khat shem Margishimba beten, shem Loba ma koma na kon, skamuvanola Zov kyomhat velagi de Aharaya Mabula ni olech. Avalkana is la sota alih, kize k Af pamlo, muhamida, af pamlo. Tomitrihla is velimto eta derhanechhona. Lit Kadesh Latliah, velimtoya termashma utbasia and shate Mamashma Vashra.

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So da and call la is lahet letali. Lokulame Zimakum lahet Litalih and shut your be a fill Basala Vazze Otat Kosemuvan, the Kokak Muvan, Kiziklo.

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The Norano Kalon, the Honim Talsman, and he sadly sham Vacami call me a Otogamad, American or the Lost Man.

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The Gamma Comes Piton Vele Velagia Velishatif, Velishatif is a gamatlatz and happen, a kudot Kiluzelo Shama com shaken the famima, fully loaded machun with the macaumash okay, the lagatlat's menu baby and fish will piton is the kelgan Belavanchaline.

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Lolemidakian it's a sem tator, Vololemidakian it's a cabelishon, um Vezemidash La Chaim, Vanikoshevche Masha Madhimized Baika, Zesha Col Mistader, Cola Pchadim, Shel Ma what if Melavoti, Bikal Becol Thomas, my kreve, but very mistake, optimizman, the collisman Mithpatrimot Lam Shik, Velimot Collasman, Velit Pateh, Velola, Fsik, Barregashem Rishim, Nhut Wow Lolis Tapekweza.

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And Tatpu Kacher Bemis Sarim, Mr Him Shemla Olam, Netatpo the Messer Shelkozma Akhim, Likatmach Nulkrim Mikeim, Mike Reim, Mikeov, Ine o Kha Gav Gamin, Pachotov, Shovam Sim Shinoi. So Meret Ayom Yetali Lagia me is kennis, kennis shall shabemet Danal Nuska Migdari. Vechanachmechovnot Vilana Nachumhovnot Kenashim Shana Shimbernot Muroch, letfedimer botter nehme, kimpuchadot, the kosh shot, Mashanika. Mazet Misrat Mkarole the Bekarit spa yesh kaze musagom a few la machinikovo. Lolo of govoti cratashi the beklar it spa the mashani roch mechvenek, letzavaron, voreod, sha anikanireve tit kabelisham, canirish, lama, i crutachol ma com te machanikrab shel gamashivam forimagav, bemet and sukelda zaki, thefkoteliv gosh gum orbegvarimlachona, shemegimlitalihim, vemlopochot shiminashimulan pochot me the brimazes, mrhav a valcan, butumerit at mamash meavashrama prinado chegamalat letrum kadash, nisit, kafatlamain, vani aniwagametam etamakomze tameserze, shyeshlach, is a messer khzakvo tsmati, mashani krata ufugavo mamash askaimat, collatalih, meta varnu, mema komze shel, shel lyot bimakom, shelukerk tzman, la gia la mascana, shanilonin tbemakomto, zelobeomihad, zehad ribsha shov, la simal of the gesh. The lobeyomhhad and khomagimla mascanazot. The Avaleshayomchachukimba boger and mister Klimba Mara, it's him la dat, the canire, and achnu lobe ma com shimatimelu. Nikorleze, anachnu dakshulmaimetukim shakolo suchebe maim to kim, sobe maim akim, famizahim shli fame machhirim lola maim shelhus kukimlich totkarega, vela sot Italia ishai, male to that, like telephone shareamia telephone, and then you're a mateoga, shaguf kselon shelo mitra gliml'sot menu, kseloon echanim echany of fekhetzele nohela, la cum vela sotashino, legalgal shamathili galgel pitoma tsmo. Mamash ka ve asgam be met score, shakani refushan in him tetzasi por shin in a separate let's me. Yes, odd perspective, becauseunim khavera, she be met khaverat, oh make shaves shatefan the commashali kabeta she kufazematasheni shall la manit qua, la tifezele de beralsugim shelana shim. Kesha nashim, anashimbasofukrimutanu, la mekomochelem, la chasha shotchalem, la khadim shelem, la mekomotam shoftiochalemelo sina de mitoh ma com shli mosimitohma com shelagen lenu, kuma shomer shelanu, orto shomer shirotanu lifamim. Vedafka bakomazeshelifamimani olechatleze mishi in perspectiva khadasha, chola khveran inobduberatilagale talich, Basanivina, shesho def Shawiot, Shani Chola Liotlichot Viliforbe Mukomota Khirim, Pazbemit Latla Talichaz, Sha Tumeret Kama Batalikazet Kamivan Kn Kul Shitalich, Vivancha Batalikazet Zichla Schlich, Comed Vimedomeret, Zelifok Molfia Buddhism, Laf Siklia Chiz, Ish Davakazakil Musag, Le Shakir, Zutzot, Velot Bemakom Shell, Lifto Milo La Motashim Ve Kabala, Bidio G Vinci Kadima Hora, Zero Acadima, But Gamart Mashum Mod Y Fay's So, Gamsh Hatis Lok Korod Him, The Pachadeloim, Zelo Shardabok is and Your Side Be G Vashu Met Lays, Lagala Voda, Lagal Miko Mother's Masha's Lam's Egatil Vacaba Makoma Vodacodem, As Minutiles, Egati's M.

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V.

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Kama, Shani Bakoma Here, Vavim Collar, Toma Gid Hey, Zvalosheli, Sagali as a Shoe and Sagali Tatalik, Hadash, Mashaya, Gatilasham, Wamati Wow, Kif's Mechanic Mash Kiru, Talih, the Tali Aval Tali, Shavakom, Khadash, Varat Yod, She's the Ava Dola, Mashikala Avar, Aval Ugvas.