Fur the Record: Chris Hates Rescue

Episode 2: Fur the Record: Chris Hates Rescue

In this episode, we discus the realities of animal welfare, including the challenges faced by shelters, the importance of community support, and the misconceptions surrounding animal care. The conversation highlights the emotional rollercoaster of working in animal rescue, the significance of adoption events, and the impact of social media on public perception. Chris also addresses the language used in the animal welfare community, particularly the term 'rescue', and invites listeners to engage in the conversation.

Trigger Warning: This episode includes honest discussion around topics such as animal euthanasia and the emotional challenges faced in animal welfare. Minimal adult language is used. Listener discretion is advised. 

Transcript

Welcome to Further Record with Chris and Cass. I'm Chris. And I'm Cass. And if you want to know more about us, we're shelter workers. I am director of animal services at La Plata County Humane Society. Cassidy is the marketing, what is your official title? Media relations manager. It's changed a few times. It's changed a few times. It has. So it's hard for me. I'm an old fart and it's hard more hats I wear, the more things. Yeah, media relations. That's neat.

Thanks, I got to make up my own title, which was pretty cool. You know, mine, Director of Animal Services? DOA. Did not think about that until... it. I can't have an acronym. I need to change mine. I should change mine to... What should I be? Secretary of Cool Stuff and Fun Things? How about that? That sounds good, Protector of Animals. P... POS. P-O-A.

We'll think on that. back next Think about it. Hey, listeners out there, if you have a title other than asshole, maybe you should send it to me. and just, For the record, I did not swear last week. I was so proud of So I got that one out of the way. Sorry if you had kiddos listening. I'll try to be better. It has an explicit warning on the description. OK, good. So yeah, so we're shelter workers.

got this podcast going and we're gonna talk about life in the trenches, right? That's what this is all about and each week we're gonna do a segment called The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and we're gonna start things off right off the get-go with this week's Good, Bad, and Ugly. It's been a roller coaster of a week. Ladies first again. Sure. What's your good cass? Good happened today actually. It's been fun to think in this context now of what my good, bad, and ugly of the week is.

is today is Friday for those who are not wanting to know. It won't be when you're listening to this. Sunward is a new credit union not sponsored yet. That opened in Durango here and they had a big grand ceremony

ribbon cutting.

Cut the old ribbon. Yeah, so we brought an adoptable dog named George. He was perfect. Me, our volunteer coordinator, and our foster coordinator all went out to show our support for them and just bring a cute little dog to get some socialization. And we also passed out some flyers for our upcoming adoptathon, which is very exciting. Next week, the adoptathon, which

If you're listening to this podcast three years from now, won't matter. But if you're listening to it next week, our adoptathon will be next week. And in fact, we'll be podcasting from the adoptathon. Sure. We're going to have to do that, right? I we should. we can get some people to talk. That's a great idea. See? This is where we come up with our ideas. brainstorm live. Yeah. How's that? I love that idea. So we'll tune in live next week. So that's your good. That's my good. We got to meet people from the

community.

Chamber of Commerce was there, diplomats, just great time. I got free sunglasses, that was fun. was fun. And I can't say enough, the community here supports us so well and thank you to all of you. And I do want to give a shout out to our, and I feel like I say that too much, shout out, so I'm going to try to not do it. It's okay. I promised I would shout out to our very first listener, who is Tricia. Hey. Hi Trish, I know you're listening.

You're our biggest fan and thank you for spreading the word about for the record and so let's go in Yeah, well, I think that's also my goodness. Thank you so much to everyone who listened to our first podcast We were blown away by the amount of downloads. So things was it 50 in it Yeah, I know for you know, little little us now. We're up to 70, which is exciting Good. So thanks to everyone tuning in on this crazy ride. So I can't say we only have three listeners. Yeah, okay. Well, thanks for listening and

On to my week. This week's my good, bad and ugly. My good is we had a 10 year old dog here. Her name was Sadie. Cutie. She was a cutie. I don't know. She was here about six weeks or eight weeks or so. Really? That long? Was it that long? Well, yeah, maybe. Definitely a few weeks because Cailey took her to foster for a Maybe I'm wrong. But she was here a few weeks. At one point, we thought she might have cancer and she wasn't going to make it. And what we cleared that up.

Our great medical staff cleared that up and yeah, she got adopted the other day and I just love it when the senior dogs get adopted. That's my favorite. The senior for senior. Yeah, it's my favorite thing. You know, the old dogs don't do well here and to see them get a new home is really just a precious feeling. He said he's gonna cook her scrambled eggs every morning. I know, isn't that so So cute. She could not have gone to a better home.

So sweet, such a sweet couple. that's my good. Now, on to the bad. Mm-hmm. Cass, what is your bad from this week? let's see. It's been a whirlwind of a week. let's see. I might have to let you go first on this You're gonna let me go first? Okay. Well, my bad is this. my bad is the same as last week. It's people. Mm. It's people breeding dogs.

that have no business breeding dogs and then when they can't find people to buy all their puppies, they bring the leftovers to us. And it's infuriating, it's unnecessary, you're not gonna get rich, stop it. Stop There's plenty of dogs for everyone. There's so many dogs that need homes. And I'm, look, you know, I'm the king of spay and neuter. I said it last week, I'll say it.

million times doing this podcast whether it this is the last episode or whether we do a hundred more I don't know I'll probably talk about spay neuter every single week but there's no reason and this week again we got another litter of puppies that aren't even purebreds and it's from just people just breeding for the sake of money and stop it people stop it so that's my bad

now you're on the spot

Okay, my bad is a little bit more lighthearted, if that's okay. It's okay. This whole thing is lighthearted, It glimpses into the bad things of my job, which a lot of times is not too bad, luckily. But one of my jobs is traditional marketing is banners, flyers, that kind of thing. And every year we have a banner that goes across our main street here in our downtown.

in every January I always make sure it's reserved. It was all good for this upcoming week and You you just the best-made plans are set with good intentions I went on vacation is that maybe I should have pulled out the banner just to look at the condition of it You know, it's probably fine It was not fine. And luckily I took it out the day before it was supposed to be dropped off with the city

And then I had someone, one of our other people that was like, oh, I'll help sew that up, no worries. And bless their heart, I'm from the South. They tried and did not succeed. The fabric is so old. This thing is what, like 10, 20 years old? That's gotta be 15 years old. I think I was one of the first purchases I made as director, and I have been director for a

About 15 years. So, a while. Maybe longer. So, what started out as one small hole then quickly turned into about four bigger holes. So, and I didn't pick up the, I picked it up the morning of it was due and I was like, great, I have four hours to figure out how I'm going to make this able to hang on top of a main street. So I went to the nearest department store and I got really lucky. I found patches.

that are pretty similar to the color. And I just was scrappy and did it. And honestly, you were like Betsy Ross. Yeah, I had thanks. Shout out to Jessica for helping me hand sew some things. We did all the shout outs today. But yeah, you know, it started off as a frustrating situation. But here in the nonprofit shelter world, you just got to be scrappy and get it done. I got it done. And would you say that?

when you pulled that box, that banner out of the box, that that could also be your ugly. Yeah. Just the gaping holes. And as I pulled it out, I saw

the thing looks, I mean, I saw it. looked like it's been through the Battle of Bunker Hill. It literally had like holes through it, like a cannon shot. So that was not ideal. So that was your bad. Yeah. And we did my bad. Now it's ugly. Yeah, what's your ugly? My ugly.

My ugly is, again, I can't get away from it. It's not overpopulation. My ugly is just people. I've seen some ugliness out of people that just doesn't need to happen. We're talking dogs and cats here, people.

ceases to amaze me how wrapped up in the small stuff people can get. it's just, it's, you know, this week there's been some ugly stuff. I've seen animal cruelty this week that I'm not gonna get into here on the air, because it's just, it's ugly. you know, what was beautiful out of this ugliness was the response of

of our team, our animal protection team, and of just everybody who kind of rallied around this one dog in a situation that it wasn't great. And now it's up to the courts, and it's going to be a process. And that's something that I'd like to take a minute to talk about is that if you see animal cruelty happening, the time to do something about it is when you see it.

It's, I'm sure there's a, I don't have kids, so it's hard for me to articulate maybe, but I know that when people see abuse with children, know, first responders, teachers, everybody, you're supposed to, it's your job to say something. Hey, I'm telling people out there, it's your job to say something about animal cruelty. It really is. And in this case, some people did say something.

and suffered a little abuse for it and for the trouble. But you know what? They did the right thing. that's, know, all the ugliness in the world can be overcome by people doing the right thing. And that's, you know, so that's my ugly for this week. What's your ugly, Cass? My ugly is something I deal with all the time, unfortunately. As part of my job, I run our social media accounts. And we have a lot of keyboard warriors out there that

You know, know half the truth or just being biased or again, don't know the whole story and just like to sit behind their keyboard and type away nonsense and just rudeness of unnecessary words to say to people who work here that, you know.

are trying their best. what happens if you try to respond or even monitor those things? What happens? It just gets worse. gets worse. we get kicked off the sites. these are things that we're trying to do the best we can over here, people. We really are. And every day is a struggle. mean, today, we got five dogs in that we were not expecting. We're full.

We're full of dogs and five more came in with no place to go. We've made room, we've got, you know, we've paired up some dogs. mean, but situations not good. And when you're out there spewing that ugliness from behind your keyboard, you know, how tough are you? Especially people that I know and I know who like they know that I'm the one behind the scenes.

which can be a little challenging. And also, this happened recently that people found my personal social media and reached out with threats to me, which is like, what did I do? because I have that, work here on my socials, which maybe I should take down, I don't know. But I'm proud to work here, I want to share We're all proud to work here, but it makes us targets. And people out there listening, might not understand, but yeah, we get death threats.

We get, people get very passionate about animals and I mean, yeah, death threats, threats of violence, all those things have happened to just about anybody who's worked here for more than a couple of days. It happens. But especially it seems like the two of us get a lot of them. Yeah, well, I mean, we're out there on the front lines. mean, I'm making decisions that are unpopular, you're posting things that are popular or not, just by merely putting them on social media, which.

we're doing it to try to benefit the animals, it gives all those keyboard warriors an opportunity to take pot shots. So hey, guess what? I have a microphone, and I might take some pot shots back in the future. So be careful with what you say. Yeah, just be mindful when this goes with everything online that the internet is forever. And it can be tracked back to you. Yeah, and if you don't think it is, just, I mean, all you got to do is look at some random celebrity or.

athlete who posted something on Twitter 10 years ago when they were in high school and they thought it was funny. And then all of a sudden they're in the limelight and the next thing you know they're the biggest racist in the world or whatever because they said something and you can't take it back. And all of you that are out there who are taking pot shots, know, get a life. That's what I say, get a life. Do you have to, you know, I see stuff on social media that infuriates me and I just...

Scroll on by. Just keep on scrolling. You don't have to engage for this if you don't want to. trust me, I get it. You all know how to do this job better than we do. I get it. You know? Great. But hey, if you keep commenting, thanks for boosting our engagement, right? That's all I have to say. And if you think you can do it better, knock yourself out. Start your own shelter. Get after it. Anyway. Anyway, that is The Good, Bad, and the Ugly. The Good, Bad, and the Ugly this week. Let's take a break. Let's take a break.

Cassidy Crisp (13:54)
All right, now this new segment we're trying here is going to be called the rumor kennel where we're going to debunk some of our shelter related myths or rumors that we've been hearing amongst the community, amongst people that come in and ask questions. So Chris, why don't you take away a rumor that you would like to debunk? There's a lot of rumors. I think this segment, and again, we're trying stuff out people. This may come and go, this segment.

You know, bear with us, we're trying to find our feet doing this, but I have a lot of rumors I'd like to debunk and the biggest one, right off the get-go is seven days. That's kind of, and what is seven days? Well, people come in here all the time and they think that we only give the animals seven days to get adopted and then we euthanize them. That could not be further from the truth. Now.

Are there shelters that still operate that way? Sure. There are municipal kennels, municipal shelters who get thousand. You know, we get about three thousand five hundred animals a year in our shelter, which bursts our little shelter to the seams. It's not five thousand, it's not seven thousand. And there are communities our size that get that many animals and there are communities bigger than that to get that many animals. And some of them do have time limits. We're not one of them.

Here at La Plata County Humane Society, we don't have time limits on dogs or cats. They get here, they have, if they are adoptable, they can stay here as long as they need to. Penny, who got adopted, we talked about before. Over 200 days she was here. with Red, is still here. Red's still here. He's been here for months. Over 200 days. 200 days now. I mean, we used to have this program called the Lonely Hearts where...

animals that were here for more than 45 days had reduced fees. 200 days? mean, that's ridiculous to think about. yeah, Red's a great dog. We're going to get him adopted. And he's been here for 200 And he's holding his own for everything. Now, if he was biting people, if he were unadoptable, if we thought there was any reason, sadly, he wouldn't be put up for adoption. But he staying up for adoption.

He's a wonderful dog. So there are no time limits at La Plata County Humane Society. Get that out of your head. If you're thinking about bringing an animal here, don't worry that they only have a few days, because that's not the case. If they're adoptable, we'll give them all the time they need. We have a great crew of fosters that take animals that need a break from the kennel. It's really great to see. And I always tell everyone, we love them like our own till they're someone else's. That's right. And this leads right into what

Your rumor is, you want to debunk. Oh yeah, so a lot of people I've seen recently, especially on our TikTok,

of our cats and the cat are usually, I'm just showing them in their kennel and they're there and they're like, do they stay in those cages all day? That's awful. you know, no to answer the question, which luckily we just.

received funding for our new catio space, is an extension for, it's kind of like a small group cat cafe where we get adult cats that like hanging out with other cats have that opportunity to spread their legs and go hang out in there and stay there until they get adopted, which I think has been a great improvement. They don't stay in there very long anymore. They get adopted very quickly. As soon as they go in there, it's like, cause you can play with them. You can sit with them, snuggle with them. It's a great space that was not being utilized before. It was just a dark.

collection of leaves. And the dogs, do the dogs stay in their kennel all day? No, they do not. They definitely come out more, I think, than the cats, even though the cats can come roam the catty-o and the cattery throughout the day with our awesome volunteers. We do have volunteers that come and dog walk. That's one of our most popular volunteer opportunities. People come on Christmas, Thanksgiving, holiday, like every day. We have an army of volunteers that come and they walk.

every animal in our care. All the dogs get at least one to two walks a day, at least, is minimum. And I was just outside before we started doing this. And one of our residents, Rhino, he's a real big German shepherd. He had already been on about three walks today. I've seen him go in and out with volunteers. And then we have one volunteer, Dave, who's here. And Dave comes almost every day. Dave does like,

free landscaping for us. it's so nice. Amazing. And he really cares about Rhino. He's working hard with Rhino to help him get adopted. And, you know, right now he's out playing ball with Rhino in our play yard. So these dogs are not. Oh, yeah, that's right. Every day they also go basically with our behavior team. They get put into play groups and it's essentially recess for dogs. So they go out for their play group to play with their friends. When I would be a dog, we have our P yards that they get rotated to go out and have plenty of time to go outside and get some fresh air.

just, you know, they don't stay in the boxes all day long. Which honestly, what we've discussed is that this is a hotel, not a home. You know, it's not ideal, but it does, it's heated floors for Pete's sake. If they're not, they're not, not living in luxury, but they're not, you know, suffering by any means. You shouldn't get me started on the heated floors. for 20 years, 23 years, whatever the heck I've been here, I have been having people come in here. How come those dogs don't have blankets? You know, and we'll have dogs that

and their blankets. But the floors are heated, people. They have cots to lay on for crying out loud. They're not, I mean, again, it's not the greatest place. Yeah, we want them to go to their home, obviously, but. I don't want them to stay here for one day. But people always say, don't bring them to the pound, like the scary pound. That I would love to invite people to go, if they're not local, to us, to go to their local Humane Society or shelter just to see.

what there has to offer because, you know, take a closer look. You might be surprised. And you know, that's something, you said it right there, take a look at your local shelter. And also, when you're donating, think about your local shelter. There's a lot of groups out there, the ASPCA, Best Friends, all these groups, American Humane, Humane Society of the United States, I could go on and on. There's a bunch of national groups who...

do help animals, they do help dogs and cats, and they have TV commercials, and they can pull on your heartstrings. We've all seen them. But if you're going to donate, maybe think about donating to your local shelter. And I don't say that just because of us. I hope that somebody out there, in fact, I know people are going to hear this all over the place. If you have a local shelter and you're thinking of donating, go help them out. They could use it. They could use your time. They could use your energy. They could use your money.

All those things are, guarantee you, all you gotta do is go ask. And if they don't want it, give me a call. Come on over, we will help you. Comment on this podcast. Tell us how you wanna help. There's so many ways, and a lot of humane societies have thrift stores like we do. If you're not able to donate your money, because I know money is tight for a lot of us these days. Donate your items. As long as we're talking about commenting on

How could people do that? yeah I have set up a new fan mail service that you can in the description of this podcast wherever you're listening It'll say send us a text. Yeah, so just click that and just it's like sending a text message and Standard messaging rates may apply. So just send us a text if you have any questions comments if you if you know if there's a if there's a kennel rumor that you want to get debunked

Let us know what it is. Yeah, we'd love to hear from you. know, for your shelter, for our shelter, you know, give us your feedback. We'd love to hear it. And yeah, that's this week's Kennel rumor. And let's take a break. Let's take a break.

back to Further Record with Chris and Cass. And we're going to try something else here and see how y'all like it. We're going to play a little game. Yeah, we're going to play a game. Called Name That Pet. Let's put our director of animal services to the test. On the spot. To see how well he knows these animals. Now, I think, for the record, I'm going to be transparent. I think I might do better than you. I think you will. Because I take all of their pictures. You take their pictures.

This will be kind of fun for me. Yeah, so maybe it'll be great. It'll just be this will be a good exercise in getting me to know each animal better. Yeah, I used to know him forward and backwards. And the farther I get away from the trenches, the less I do know him. And this week, we're only going to do dogs. That's right. Because we have no cat. We have no cats. And what day is it? It is the 30th, the 30th of May. May. And we have zero cats on the floor for adoption.

Isn't that crazy? We have about 70 kittens and their mothers, some of them out in foster, but we have nothing. But they're bigger every day. If you're listening and you want to come to the adoptathon next week, there will be there will be cats. I promise you that there will be kittens June 6th and 7th, 8th. That's right. So put me to the test here and we're going to name that animal. OK, so since this is the audio listening, this will be fun because you can't see the picture. So I'm just going to describe it.

Okay, so this dog is a dog that we've recently talked about. So I'm gonna start easy. So recently talked about is a little bit, is an adult dog. Very much on the shy bashful side. She is on one of our awesome volunteers who sits with her every single morning. Yeah. That was too easy. See I'm starting easy. Luna is an awesome, awesome little pity girl. My turn.

Here we go back.

Okay, I gotta find one here. He doesn't have his glasses. yes I do. They're right here. Calling him out. Don't call me out on the air like that. I don't have my glasses. You better leave that in too. I don't want that cut out. Okay. Okay, glasses firmly placed on...

on the bridge of my nose.

i'm gonna make it a little harder on you bring it on but you'll you'll get it pretty confident

since I just took most of the Kindles pictures like two days ago.

Okay, this is a dog. He's an adult. Young adult. He's very attractive. He's a good looking dog, that's for sure. Is it Winslow? No. It's not Winslow. He is...

He has a patch over one eye. gosh, okay, maybe I was talking up too much smack. Yeah. Okay. He's probably about...

65 pounds? he black and white? He is black and white. Is it Zavon? It is Zavon! Look at that! Guess who! Guess who! Look at that! Look at you! He needs a better picture. That's why I was like, no, don't look at that picture. You nailed it, though. You nailed it. He's a wiggle worm. There's a lot of black and white dogs back there, so that's, I mean, it could have been that one. mean, that one's got a patch on his face. That one's got a patch on his eye.

got a patch on his eye. By the way you were looking at the photo I could tell wow that dog moves a lot I don't know. I could just tell by your face. He has a strong personality he has a lot of energy. I have a strong personality and no energy. Well that was fun. That sums me up. Yeah that was that was Name That Animal.

Welcome back. And we're going to wrap things up. But before we do, I'm going to shock cast. boy. He said, I have something to say. I have something to say that, yes, stand by. If you have children, turn it off. We'll give you a I don't know. It's not. It's yeah.

Give you a few seconds. It's not gonna be that bad, but I have a bitch that I'm gonna get off my chest, okay? I have a, that bothers me in this line of work, and that is the word rescue. Oh, okay, let's get into it. It drives me nuts. And why is that? Well,

Let me tell you why it drives me nuts. Okay? And I get it, you know, I get it. Years ago when, when shelters were euthanizing a lot more animals, I guess, I guess maybe there was a reason, but somebody in our industry and I'll, it'll never be known who decided that we should all call the, the animals here rescues and that it's gone from

People wear it like a badge now. I was literally at this event. I was like, oh yeah, he's available. I oh, I already have two rescues at home. They're both rescues. Do you know what I want to say when they tell me that? Do you know what I want to say? Do you want to kettle? to say, was the building on fire when you got the dog? Did you rappel down a frigging cliff? What when you got your dog? Because if you didn't, how can you call it a rescue? What, you walked into a building?

You got off your ass for a minute. You walked into a building, and I love you people. I don't want you to get mad at me and not come adopt. This is a hot take. This is a hot take though. Because when you say that, I find it offensive. Really? I do. Okay. Maybe I need to shut up. I'm just listening. Maybe I'm easily offended. I don't know. But I'm not. You know me. I'm not easily offended. You can say sh-

in my expense that I will take happily. But man, when people say that, it drives me berserk. I don't necessarily agree with you. That's okay. But that's, and I don't have a strong opinion. why. Maybe you can tell me, maybe you can straighten me out on this. Have you looked at the Enneagram? Do you have, we'll talk about that after if you have it. No, I don't know what it is. Well,

It's basically a personality test where I am a type nine, which means I'm the peacemaker. So I see all sides, essentially. So I'll be the devil's advocate and I'll see the other side. Go for it. And, you know, I think maybe we are a minority in that we are at the luxury of not having to use the nice for space. You know, so I think people do feel like they are, quote unquote, rescuing them from and I understand that. I it just it.

It just, it's so... It's not, I just, it drives me nuts, Cass. I don't know, and I need to get over it. I've learned to accept it. I've been here long enough that, yeah, it's an industry, it's a term now, and people like to say it, but boy, does it drive me crazy. I do get the, when I'm talking to people and I'm really trying to, you know, sell the dog I'm showing to them, they're like...

Oh no. Like the way they say it's just very entitled or pretentious. They think that they sold, I don't know, had the cure to something. I know a few animal control officers, animal protection officers here, who have truly rescued dogs. We had a dog last summer that was lost on the trail for weeks. And remember, they walked in, they carried it out. They hiked miles up the trail.

and they carried this dog out, they rescued that dog. They can say, I rescued that dog. If you bought a latte and looked on your phone and saw a cute dog at your local animal shelter and you went down there and you got out of your air conditioned car and you went inside and nice people helped you and the building wasn't burning, then you adopted your dog.

I think I do like the term adopting better. But just that's what I just use naturally more. You didn't buy a pair of shoes and you didn't rescue them. And on the flip side, I hate when people come in and say, basically treat us like we are a shoe store and treat our animals like their inventory. Like, I'd like to buy this dog. And just that gives me the ache. I like to buy it. Yes. Or also, if they come in, one of this is like right now, they'll come in and say, where's all the kittens?

Yes, like I want a kittens like well, we don't have any when are they getting here? I don't know until they are a certain weight. We can't yeah, they're not big enough to enough. They'll be here when they're ready. They'll be here. We don't have and you know, they're not on some boat from Somalia They're not coming from Ethiopia. They're they're they're out there being born we have we we don't we don't have an inventory control where we can just

dial up some kittens. Yeah, from the marketing standpoint, it is frustrating. It's very frustrating. can't ever plan too far ahead because we don't know what we'll have. Anyway, it drives me nuts. Anyway, you say it if you want. I'll get over it. And that's Chris's hot take. That's for the record. yeah. I feel like this episode has a very different energy than the first episode. We're just like diving right in. I love it. You know, this is fun for me.

Me too, honestly, this has been the highlight of my week so far. I hope people get some enjoyment out of it. You know, last week I said, at one point in episode one, I said this was geared towards shelter workers. I want to change that. OK. And this was from number one listener, Trish. You know, she said, I can't remember her exact words. She's very smart.

And she said something along the lines of, you know, make it to a broader audience. And truly, I guess when I said that, I want everybody to enjoy this. The part that I'm gearing towards shelter workers is that in a way, it's therapy. I think this is good therapy for us right now. It's good therapy for us. And I hope that if you're out there listening and you work in a shelter, this shelter or some other one,

you can listen to this and maybe get a chuckle, maybe learn something and maybe just get pissed off because you don't like that word either, rescue. Or you can be like, I don't agree with you. us know. Send us a text about it. Yeah, send us a text. me why you think rescue is a good word. I'd love to hear it. Change my mind. Here I am. Change my mind. Right? Isn't that a thing on the internet these days? I've seen the guy there with the sign that says

blah blah blah, change my mind. Yeah. You know what I'm talking We loved it. Sure.

That's for the record. See you next week. We'll see you next time. Bye.

Cassidy Crisp (32:12)
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