Mama You Belong

Dada / Papa, You Belong Too: Stories from Phil Desmarais and Chad Hilgenberg about Becoming Fathers (Fatherhood, Belonging, and Mental Health in Parenting)

Kirsten Desmarais, DPT and Molly Hilgenberg, LICSW Season 1 Episode 4

Parenting conversations often leave fathers out—but dads belong too. In this episode, Phil Desmarais and Chad Hilgenberg share their stories of becoming fathers, navigating belonging, and finding their voice in the journey of parenting alongside moms. 

Phil Desmarais is the Director of Performance at Excel North Physical Therapy and Performance in Duluth, MN. 

Chad Hilgenberg is a general contractor and carpenter, and is the owner of Hilgenberg Construction LLC in Duluth, MN. 

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