Jurassic World (2015) with Brad Jost (The Jurassic Park Podcast)

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In 2015 ‘Jurassic World’ roared into cinemas and audiences turned out in their droves to see it. 

Now as we embark on a brand new story it’s time to look back at the last 10 years of a film that changed a the brand from ‘Jurassic Park’ to ‘Jurassic World’

Joining me is host and genuinely lovely human Brad Jost. We chat about all our thoughts on the film and how it’s been for him making the Jurassic Park Podcast for the past 10 years. 

Head to JurassicParkPodcast.com for more information on that great show. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

When Jurassic World comes out with a fully functioning park with a wild hybrid dinosaur. And and and the subsequent sequels, Fallen Kingdom with the volcano and dinosaurs in the wild with Dominion. These are the stories that I told in my basement with my toys.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Hello and welcome back to Rebirth. My name is Roger Squire. I hope you've enjoyed these past few episodes where we've dug into a little bit behind the scenes, maybe, or the animals of Jurassic Park. What I wanted to do was to try and recreate the agonizing weight for Jurassic World between Jurassic Park 3. So I hope you've enjoyed that, and it was slightly more enjoyable than it was for me during those years. Today I'm bringing you a fab interview with Brad Jost, host of the Jurassic Park podcast, which celebrates its 10th anniversary this year. He is such a fun and engaging character in the community, and he has so much love for this franchise, and he exudes all of that in this interview. So without further ado, let's get into Jurassic World from 2015. Please welcome to the podcast Brad Jost. Hi, Brad. Thank you so much for joining me today.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Hey, thank you for having me. Uh I know it's been a long time coming, and I'm excited to chat today. It's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yeah. I'm gonna first off ask you about your excitement for rebirth. What scale are you on?

SPEAKER_02 1:28

I it's it's an interesting scale. I think uh I think I'm very hyped, obviously, very hyped for the movie. It it's it's been such a weird trajectory, I think, for this movie coming off of Jurassic World Dominion and just, you know, knowing that they'll continue the franchise in some way, but at that time they're they're clearly telling you, this is it, this is the end, this is the last one we'll ever get, or whatever. That's kind of the vibe they were giving us. So I wasn't prepared for a new movie, like in it, like emotionally, like technically. I I had no, you know, I was no prepped, I was not prepped at all, ready for this movie. So then when they start to talk about, oh, there's gonna be a new one, it it all felt like very confusing. And um, at some times it felt like, oh, this is gonna be really rushed. I hope we can get this going right. Then you start to see the pieces of like who's involved, and then you get that confidence, right? So I've got that confidence with like the you know, David Cap really got confidence there. Gareth Edwards is one of my favorites these days. Uh so I've got a lot of confidence that. And obviously the the people that are in the movie too, like ton, uh tons of confidence with them. I think obviously, like canonically speaking is more so where my my questions lie and my yeah, my like less hype side. You know, it's it's kind of wondering, okay, well, I hope we get enough explanation for this. You know, I think we saw recently that the movie is going to be like what, two hours and 14 minutes or something like that. So plenty of time for a lot of exposition to give us a lot of information that we need, but I'm I'm just hoping that they do so and don't just skim over those canonical tidbits that that we all are questioning right now. I mean, maybe general audiences don't necessarily care. You know, when we see a different dinosaur design, we're like, why? Yeah. What's what's going on there? What's going on with this? What is this island in general? So there's a lot of questions, plus the whole mutant of it all. Like, there's a lot of things I need to uh have ironed out a little bit. But uh I I dig what they're doing. I think I'm really hyped about the uh marketing that they're doing right now. I've been saying this a lot recently that like it feels different than before. You know, before they wouldn't kind of go all out with these movies, and they are certainly there's a lot of stuff out there right now for this movie, but uh all we've gotten is the same few scenes over and over again. And I kind of appreciate that, at but at the same time, like I obviously want to see more. But for years now, I've been saying, stop showing us everything. And they're they're doing it now, and I'm I'm also like clamoring for the other side again. So, but I think they're doing a good job. They're they're getting us hyped, they're keeping us like in check with uh everything that they're showing us so far, and uh I I think it's gonna be good. I'm I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Yeah, no, I I think you you covered off exactly how I'm feeling about this. Um yeah. How how does it stack up to maybe your excitement for Jurassic World, say 10 years ago?

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yeah, I mean, look, completely different experience altogether. I mean, that was like 14 years or whatever of nothing and just thinking about what that movie is gonna be, going through just years and years of that, and then the hype level was was wild. I mean, that was that was at a time where like oh we're gonna have new Star Wars, we're gonna have new Jurassic. Yeah, Marvel's like doing its thing at its height and stuff, and it was very exciting to have Jurassic come back into the fold, you know, after after so many years away. Yeah, it was huge. I mean, you can't really compare to now because now we've we're we're on our fourth, you know, installment now of the Jurassic World saga, and the excitement is obviously there, but it's just like it's hard to compare those two moments, you know, when you had nothing, and then all of a sudden now we've got everything we need. We've got all the toys, we've got all the merchandise. I've got no more room for any more merchandise or toys. Like, so it's a completely different uh experience these days.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

It's amazing what 10 years can do and a you know billion-dollar franchise suddenly being part of it.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Yeah, yeah. And they've they've been treating it pretty well, I think. Uh obviously, like I think along the way, I would have liked to have seen things done differently here or there with other material and and and maybe the movies or TV shows and things like that. But I think what we have gotten it are are things that I'm really uh appreciative of. So I really like all those things.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Nice. So talking about Jurassic World today, and I was wondering whether you could kick us off with a synopsis for the film.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

All right. So let me just wing it here. Um, so Jurassic World, it's uh a park that's been in operation for 10 years. And uh, you know, if you if you head into the uh offices of Jurassic World, you'd find that people aren't uh coming to the parks. They aren't excited for the way uh they're presenting their dinosaurs these days. So what does Jurassic World need to do? They need to reinvent the wheel a little bit and they need to put hybrids out there, something that that will get people very excited about dinosaurs again, something bigger, scarier with more teeth. And uh, of course, along the way, we we meet a few different characters and some family members pop up from time to time. But overall, it's it's literally just hey, how are we gonna deal with the dawn of hybrid dinosaurs and the problems that that creates for the park workers, for the park itself, for the guests. And uh, we ultimately see the downfall of an iconic park that we've been waiting for for so long. And uh it's a sad, sad day. But uh yeah, it I would say that's a decent enough premise. It's not the entire thing.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

That's nice. No, really good. I really enjoyed that. Um, what were your so Jurassic Part 3, 2000? How old were you when to um in 2001 and Jurassic Part 3?

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Uh uh, you know, I was uh I was in high school, so I was probably like 15, 16, okay. Something like that, I think. Yes, the same age. Somewhere in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

How how was it after that film? And kind of did you anticipate that the next one wouldn't be 14 years away?

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Well, yeah, I mean, like when that movie came out, I was still, I think, you know, in my in my prime like Jurassic hype years, you know, after the Jurassic Park and The Lost World, my you know, talk about hype level was was wild for Jurassic Park 3. And then it started to dwindle a little bit as I saw like some of the marketing and stuff like that. And then when I saw the movie, I that's that is unfortunately the first movie I remember really, really sitting in the theater for uh Jurassic Wise. Um, so uh and I I had a tough time with that one. So knowing that the reception was a little bit different than the other movies and that it didn't really make as much money, it was it was bound to be like kind of a slow period, I think, for a return to Jurassic, but I never expected them to take that long. Um I don't think anybody really did. It just we all we all follow the news cycles, we all checked in.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

And that was like constantly checking.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Yeah, that was like the dawn of like movie news on the internet, I feel like, where we're all really like we're just introduced to different new websites. Like we we had never visited these sites, so we're like, okay, this is gonna be my go-to website for checking movie news. And I I did that with a a bunch of them. I think there was like uh like coming soon.net or something, and like darkness.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Just popped into my head when you were saying that.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

Yeah. Joe Blow. Uh so there was a lot of different like movie sites back then that I frequented. And uh yeah, I was just checking those for ages, just wondering like when's it gonna come next? But 14 years later was not on my radar. That was that's that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Yeah, I remember the rumor that Kira Knightley was gonna be in it for a time, and she was gonna be John Hammond's granddaughter. I don't know whether it's gonna be Lex at some point that she was gonna play. I've been kind of delving back using um the Internet Archive, diving into those old pages just to see what those rumors were like, reminiscing and feeling the stress of Jurassic Park 4 and the wait for it all over again. Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

I was thinking about doing that recently too. Um, and one thing dawned on me, like I I completely forgot that like uh and then I don't remember the the year or whatever it was, but like when Michael Crichton died, I feel like that was like that was like uh there was like a finality to it, and they the way that they spoke about it was like, I don't think we're gonna be doing it anymore. You know, because we had been following it for years, like waiting and just waiting and waiting. And there'd been news tidbits here and there that like the cast members or you know, oh, they're talking about maybe returning or or whoever, and uh they're they're working on something. Joe Johnson's doing something, or you know, so the people were actually doing stuff, but then when that happened, it was like, oh man, I think I think this is over. Like, I don't know if we're gonna get anything else. Because there is some finality finality to that, and you think you think about like, okay, well, should we continue uh this story with without the person who you know was the person who created the entire concept of it all? And I know the movies are different, but like, and of course Jurassic Park 3 not really involved in any of of that for for the most part, you know, but uh it felt weird to continue, and I think that's what they were feeling when they were uh trying to come up with stories and and ideas. So that was a weird time, I think, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

Yeah, and Stan Winston dying as well, roughly around the same time. And I think Kathleen Kennedy came out and said, Look, I think they'd been bugged so much for news over the past years that they were just like, Look, just leave it alone. And then I think Spielberg's at Comic-Con, and he's just like, Yeah, we've got a script, it's all working, and you know, haven't forgotten it.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Yeah, complete shell shock when uh when you find out that oh, they are gonna be doing something. And and that was you know, that I think Jurassic World, when when that movie eventually did come around, um, in the years leading up to it, and however much that changed along the way, we were it kind of reinvigorated everything. Everybody got excited again, and uh I mean that started up my fandom again because like I said, Jurassic Park 3 soured things a little bit for me. Um, I really do appreciate that movie's uh that movie these days, but um I think during that time there was there were other stories being told. Lord of the Rings was uh was huge for me. I I yeah, you know, I so I I started to get into other film franchises and different things. And you know, even even then Marvel coming in uh 20 yeah 2008. So there was a lot of different projects to get excited about um in those dark years. So yeah, yeah, I was okay for a little while. But then Jurassic World comes around and you're like, oh, all right, we're back in this. This could be good again. What are we doing? Uh all right, now now you gotta start talking about it with with new people that you've never met before. It's awesome. It really started something.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

And it seemed that uh uh Spielberg finally landed upon because he had the John Sayles script. I'm not sure whether you've ever have you ever read that.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Yeah, it's been a few years and uh it was a wild read. Absolutely a wild read. Yeah, and I do think back to that like every now and then when especially you know doing a podcast and and uh when you have to do a podcast for uh all year long uh leading up to a movie, you start to dive into a lot of those weird things that were in random scripts and stuff like that in concept art. So that was one that I just I remember diving into quite a bit, even even more recently. I think that I think that one started off I don't know if it was the beginning, I think it was the beginning, but there was like a baseball or t-ball sequence, I think, in that story. Yeah, where like pteranodons or something had uh come and attacked the game. And I'm I I thought about for years how like excellent of an opening sequence that would be. And even to the point where Jurassic World, uh, I don't think I've talked about it too much for rebirth, but for Dominion, it was like, oh, this would be the perfect introduction to Dominion. Like Dinosaurs are in the wild now officially like yeah, pteranodons were out for a little while, but like now they're out there and they can attack like uh a little T ball game. It would have been a brutal kind of introduction. Maybe maybe none of the kids had to get hurt or anything, but like it would have been uh really cool. Not not a lot of the rest of that, but uh but that sequence for sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

Yeah, yeah. The rest of it would have been very different. But yeah, I mean that script had human dinosaur hybrids and all sorts of stuff going on. Spielberg definitely likes to push the science fiction side of it, I think.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Yeah, that's and and I'm okay with it because look, it's Steven Spielberg, let him do what he wants to do, let him cook, you know. Um, you know, he's been at the forefront of this. Um, you know, with the hybrids and everything. And then when you start to hear that he's working directly with uh David Kepp, it's like, okay, I know who's who's in charge of uh of all the mutant stuff that we're seeing nowadays. It's like he's he just wants to get to these concepts, and I'm cool with it. So like I feel like I hear a lot of people be like, Oh, that's not very Jurassic, and I'm like, but it is. It's like yeah, it's at the heart of it, you know. And uh I appreciate Steven Spielberg for sticking to his guns and doing what he's wanted to do for a while.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Yeah. And I've I've said this several times on the show before, but he like Jurassic has a very special place in his heart because I think it's his. You know, George Lucas gave him Indiana Jones. It was, you know, George Lucas who came came up with the idea and brought it to Spielberg. And obviously Spielberg, you know, had added so much to that. But Jurassic is something that he worked with Michael Crichton on, and so that I think he just loves it so much it's his it's his baby.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

I hope so. I mean, it it seems like he loves it. I mean, it's it's he's he's a tough one to read because he is involved in so many things. The executive produces like almost everything. It seems like you know, his name's attached to something. And I I've heard, you know, I've heard people say, like, oh, look, his name's attached to this or that, and they're losing confidence in Steven Spielberg. I'm like, what? Are you are you serious? Like, yeah, okay, like some things didn't pan out, but like, let's not lose confidence in that. So no, I have full confidence in in him and David Kepp at this point.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

So and I think with Jurassic World, he found Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver, who were the first people to really crack that script for Jurassic World, who'd just done the Planet of the Apes reboot, I think, just maybe a year or so before.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Oh, is that what is that what it was? Yeah, okay. And uh it uh yeah, it kind of has that DNA to it, right? I mean, we've we've kind of talked about that for a while, how like in the later installments of Jurassic World it would be so close. We could almost do what Planet of the Apes was doing, but it's like it feels like two on a nose, and we we j literally just got that. We can't really do the exact same thing. Who knows? Maybe we are still. I don't know. Yeah, maybe we can still be doing it.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

But yeah, clearly Spielberg came with the idea which I think he did with um Jurassic Part 3, and so he comes up with core bits that he wants to be in the a Jurassic film. So he wanted a fully functioning park, he wanted a genetically modified dinosaur, and also the w the weaponization of the raptors. That seemed to be his three ingredients that he gave to the writers and be like, go and do go go go and do that.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

And those are perfect ingredients, like that's those are the things I really like about the movie, and I know not it's not everybody's cup of tea with the weaponized dinosaurs of it all, but like I really do like what they were going for there. While maybe it wouldn't have made a ton of like legitimate sense, sometimes uh people in power don't make a lot of sense, you know? That happens often.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah, I really like that element actually of it. And since watching it again, I mean what was your so sitting down in a cinema 2015 and watching this for the first time, what are your memories of the first watch?

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Okay, well, that was a a pretty significant one for me because um, you know, I had started the podcast like a little a little bit before that, and it just so happened that um I was getting married that same weekend.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

We had booked like a wedding venue in Pennsylvania, and it was um up in like the mountains and stuff, and we we had there was like little cabins and things on the property. So we were staying up there for several days. While we were up there, like some family members obviously came up, like my cousin was there and my sister was there. We all went out there to the movie theaters. We found a theater, bought the tickets, and we went to the first showing. It's like, yeah, I'm getting married, but like, hey, we also gotta go see Jurassic World like two days before or whatever. Um, so it was a big deal. And I I I just remember sitting in that theater, and uh, you know, at the time, you know, starting the podcast and everything, I'm like trying to record as much audio as I can because I had started it with my cousin, so the two of us, and um, you know, we're sitting there in the theater talking about it, like on the way there, we're talking about it, on the way home, we're talking about it, listening to the score. So it was a it was a really great moment to kind of sit down and watch that movie for the first time and and feel so uh excited and tense. Like there's a few movies that like really get you like with chills and stuff right before the movie starts and and the the the anticipation, and that was absolutely one of them.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Amazing. That's a really amazing story. I saw it at the BFI IMAX. Really, there really wasn't many people in there, but I was just so hyped for it. I'd I'd read all the articles, I'd seen all the clips, I was ready. And I I felt a bit uh muted from it. And I've mentioned this before, but I think I was waiting for a film that was just never gonna turn up. You know, my you know, I was somebody from Jurassic Park 3 era, and this film was gonna be continuing that story, but too much time had passed for that to still be the case, I think. And it took me a couple of watches. I saw it a couple of times at the cinema, and once I saw it on like a Saturday afternoon with a load of kids and families, and hearing their reaction, I was decided, oh okay, I get it now. I understand this. And they it kind of they taught me how to get on board with the film.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Yeah, you know, there is something to to say about seeing a Jurassic movie, a dinosaur movie with like kids and families, and it's really something else. And I think you you really have to remember that when you're watching these movies, especially you know, if if we were that same age, uh, you know, during Jurassic Park 3, that means we were, you know, seven, six, seven, eight years old during that time when Jurassic Park came out. And that's when it hit us. Not obviously, not everybody's in the same age bracket, but like that that's when it worked. And and it was a science-based movie and and very like adult at times, but like it worked so well, and we were kids, and then we followed it up still being kids, still being kids. And then uh obviously, once we're adults a little bit, it's like okay, we our mindset's a little bit different, but you have to you have to put yourself back in those shoes, you know, when you were seven, eight, nine, ten years old. And I think that really makes a difference. So when Jurassic World comes out with a fully functioning park, with a a wild hybrid dinosaur, that's and and the subsequent seek uh sequels, you know, the uh Fallen Kingdom with the volcano and dinosaurs in the wild with Dominion. This these are the stories that I told in my basement with my toys. So like that's that's like exactly what I wanted. And that's the kind of like spirit I get myself into when I'm trying to like watch pretty much any movie. If you listen to any podcast or any of my root movie reviews, it's just like I love them. They're all they're all good. Uh yeah, I like some more than others, but like I just have a good time with them. So when it comes to watching Jurassic World back then, I was just like in awe of what they were doing. Like seeing that fully functioning park was awesome. Now we didn't get a lot of it. And you had you'd brought up a really good point about you know, being from that Jurassic Park 3 era and just wanting to see that story continue because 14 years of of thinking of what that next story is, it's not easy to see a new movie when you've waited 14 years. I mean, we've we've all dealt with it with Star Wars and uh with Indiana Jones and and stuff like that. You know, there's there's movies like that where you sit on them for for ages, for decades, and you're just like you they can never live up to what you want it to be fully. You know, and I think um you know, I've talked about how there you if you make like subtle changes to any of those three Jurassic World movies, you know, they could be even better. And I I love them already, but I think like yeah, it just Just it's it all works out the way it is, and I think um they did yeah a pretty darn good job while not really connecting the dots in the way that I had hoped. You know, I I guess that's that's a good way to put it because like you said, there's so many story story beats and and things that you wanted connected from Jurassic Park 3. So as a follow-up, not a great follow-up per se, but like but a great reboot, a great restart for the franchise.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

You know, it did it did what it needed to do, you know. Colin Trevaro, who when he was announced, I was just like, who? You know, you know, to be given the keys to this huge franchise and the the pressure he must have felt in a similar way to Joe Johnston taking on Jurassic Part 3, even though he'd done a few films before, but you know, your second film, I I imagine that Colin Trevaro has a lot of confidence. He comes across as somebody that is full of confidence and um you know he won over Spielberg in his uh pitch meeting and also to uh have the script from um uh Rick Jaffer um and Amanda Silver and then go to Spielberg, actually I think we need to rewrite this and start again and push the production a whole year. I mean, that is when I thought actually we've got a fan running the shit now. It feels like somebody who's who's watched this film who's interested in it, um, definitely with Colin Trevaro.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Until you find out Derek Connolly's writing, and then you're like, oh, he doesn't even know he does he he might not have even seen the last one.

unknown 23:34

No.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Yeah. Weird. It's um did did did you watch Safety Not Guaranteed before watching Jurassic World?

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Uh yeah, I believe I had watched it before. Um, because yeah, it wasn't like a lot of stuff he needed to catch up on. Like, I know like we're all kind of doing that now with Gareth Edwards re-watching all the stuff that he's made. And there's like four or five things that you should watch, right? But like uh with Colin Gravarro, it's like, okay, I watched it. And I think during during 2015, there was like him and and guys like Josh Trank, and there was probably some others, I'm forgetting who, but like for some reason there was just a movement to get these like up-and-coming directors in the in the seat to see what their fresh take was. And I I don't know if it was like purely like a fan-based kind of thing. Like these are people who were huge fans when uh you know, growing up of the of these different franchises, so they're gonna do a great job, which I agree that that could absolutely happen. But like it's still a studio at its heart. So whether Colin wanted to make all the the right choices or not, the studio is involved, and there's other people involved. But I think he did a you know pretty admirable job, and I really liked Safety Not Guaranteed, so I was excited to see what he was about to do, but I had no idea what he could do, really.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

You know, no, I think it almost feels like a bit of the movement from when Spielberg entered Hollywood, you know, the early 70s, where they were getting the old Hollywood was dying off, and they needed new blood to come come in. And these people who love the golden age of Hollywood were coming in and you know, doing exciting films that were also making money. And I think maybe some somebody like Spielberg is really good at looking at new directors and going, right, I'm gonna help you along this journey and get you into because we need new directors, fresh blood coming in, and you know, who's gonna be making films in 50 years' time or 40 years, who's gonna be the Spielberg in 20 years or 30 years time. Um, so it felt a little bit it felt a little bit like that, I think.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

That's an interesting point. Yeah, I never really looked at it like that. Like they're they're like, oh, let's try to reinvigorate everything because we're we're getting too old for this, you know. Yeah, I I kind of like that idea because Gareth Edwards was even one of those people. Yeah, he had only made like one movie or whatever before Godzilla, I think, right? So it that's wild. Like you know that just handing over the keys to these major tenple franchises, you know, for the summer, and it's like, uh, hope you do a great job. And Gareth has been saying that a lot for rebirth. It's like, you know, he had the show around George Lucas around the set uh of Rogue One, and it's like that's that's a completely different pressure that I don't know that necessarily Steven Spielberg and George Lucas had to do back when they were starting. I don't know, maybe there was probably some directors or somebody that stopped by and was like, Who are these kids? I I feel like they would have blown them off more so back in the 70s.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

They did, yeah. They uh because um there's there's the famous stuff about Spielberg and Alfred Hitchcock, and Hitchcock was on the downturn of his career. Yeah, he tried desperately, Spielberg tried desperately to go and have a meeting with um Hitchcock, and he was just like, No, I'm not speaking to the guy who made the fish film. You know, that is that is a big no.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Oh, yeah, that's brutal. At least the at least they were trying to like cultivate, you know, uh a good prospect uh for the future, which it really didn't necessarily pan out the way they they maybe wanted it to. Gareth Edwards is maybe the one that really worked out out of that kind of crew right there. So luckily for him, he's uh come back around for us.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

I think watching Safety Not Guaranteed and looking at the casting of Jurassic World, Colin wanted comedians, like it seems like for Jurassic World. So Chris Pratt, you know, people who are good at improv maybe, and making all that exposition feel really light and easy, you know, to deliver all that heavy stuff in a in a in a fun way, I think.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Yeah, I yeah, and I like that. They always say that comedians can be some of the most dramatic actors out there, so they're they're tapping into something that that other people don't have, I guess. But Chris Pratt, he was he was funny enough, but like not like he's not like Parks and Rick Chris Pratt, you know, it's he's not Andy Dwyer out there. Um so while they cast some comedic bits, it's it just it wasn't really like a fully comedic movie, which uh, you know, I know a lot of people argue that they marvellified, is that a word? Uh the the universe. There there's there's a bit of it that, but I think I think and I said this recently because when I went to go see Jurassic Park in concert, I think it was, yeah, people were like laughing more than I've ever heard people laughing at at Jurassic Park. And I sat there and I'm like, I've I've always laughed at this movie, and I've had a great time with this movie, and I find it very funny, but like I didn't realize everybody found it funny. And I I was like, okay, like I think, you know, a lot of really hardcore fans might be getting, we might be getting too much in our heads about how serious of a movie it is. And I think there's a lot of comedy in it, and and especially The Lost World. Jurassic Park 3 attempted some comedy, I think, but uh you know, I don't know, didn't pan out. But I think it doesn't feel that like out and left field for me, the the comedy that they brought to Jurassic World. And Jake Johnson's somebody I I love. I love that guy. He's so funny. And I love New Girl and everything he did there, and I you know follow everything he does still, his podcast and everything. Lauren Lapkiss still, like I was literally just watching a video of her just before. Uh she's hilarious. And um and and Bryce Dallas Howard was like, you know, she she was making her rounds, right? Obviously, in Hollywood, being in Spider-Man 3 and the Village, which was you know a huge follow-up after I think Signs, I think it was after Signs for M. Night Shamalon. So that like that was like a big deal, and obviously Spider-Man 3, big deal. And I I just remember her from my my sister's off-Broadway play. So my sister was was in an off-Broadway show in New York City, and uh it was this interesting show that uh it was called like House, House and Garden. I think I don't know if the and was in there, but I think it was just House Garden, and it was like two stages with like different, it was kind of like the Harry Potter thing where you can like I I think you had to like see it twice, or I don't know, but like you had to you had to go twice to see like a different version of it.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

So they would leave is this Alan Eggborne?

SPEAKER_02 30:05

I don't know. I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

I know, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, he's he's he's a British playwright.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

So like they would leave the stage, they would leave the stage, go to the other stage, do their thing over there, and then go to the other stage. It was really interesting. And Bryce was in that, and my sister was there. So like we would go to drop my sister off in New York City from New Jersey and just like be like, hey Bryce, she was just there. She was just at that time, she was just Ron Howard's daughter, you know. Like, that's all you knew her as. She was young, uh, she's relatively like similar ages to us. So it's like, you know, it it was it was interesting to to know that, like, oh my god, now she's gonna be in Jurassic. That's wild.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

That's cool. Amazing. That's the connection I didn't I didn't think that's an incredible story.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Yeah, my dad apparently got really like buddy buddy with uh Ron Howard every now and then, so that that's pretty funny to me.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Nice. I think I think the best actually looking at the three films, I think Chris Pratt, I think the excitement going into watching that film because of Guardians of the Galaxy was so high for Chris Pratt, and he is he is really good, but I think the one with the actual arc over all the three films is Bryce Dallas Howard's character, and I think her growing as a director, and although lots of people would like her to come and direct to Jurassic, I think that would be an amazing idea. I look looking now with 10 years on, when I re-watched it for this podcast and just looking at Bryce Dallas Howard, she was I was like, this is she has a really difficult role to play because she has to play this. It's a little bit two-dimensional, I think, in places, but she, you know, on on the written page, I imagine, but she does manage to add a lot of humour and life and humanity to that character.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

Yeah, I I think she got um, you know, uh a little too much hate for that role and obviously the heels of it all. But like I it was all choices that she wanted. Like she was in charge of those choices, and she really brought uh I think a good, you know, good voice to that character. And you know, it was like you said, it was a little bit one-sided and one-dimensional, but like they tried to add in some dimension with the evolution of Claire novel, and it still was like it was still interesting because like you're you're still kind of making this leap of why she wanted to do what she's doing in in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. There is a bit of a jump there, but like they they tried to set the stage as best they can to really do that. But I do think she had a great arc overall throughout the the trilogy, and I uh I do like that character quite a bit. And I like just to think of her who she was in Jurassic World, and then you know, the the white outfit, which Mattel, what are you doing? Give us that toy, and you know, just this such a pristine look and haircut and everything, and then to see her running on rooftops, parachuting out of the sky in in Jurassic World Dominion, I love that arc for her. Like, I absolutely love that.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Because Chris Pratt kind of disappears, I think, through this as as the films go on. His particularly by Dominion, I think Sir not appearing in this film. I always think of the Monty Python joke from from Holy from Holy Grail. Because if you watch the theatrical version, I was just like, how many lines has he had? It's just like hardly any, you know. It feels particularly by the end of the film, like blime. But yeah, I when watching the extended, it does make a bit more sense. But Bryce is almost the opposite, she becomes more to the fore.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Yeah, I mean it was it was uh her uh at the center of the story in Jurassic World. It was about her family showing up to the island and you know, the fact that she was the way she was, and she needed to kind of get out of that version of herself and and be a little bit more or have a little bit more empathy for other people and dinosaurs and her family and actually care about things. And by the end of it, you know, she learned a lesson, which is nice. And she, you know, I I know some people will argue about her like her trajectory of like wanting to be a mother. Um it was, you know, it was its own thing, but I think uh there's there's a good story there at the heart of it.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

What what do you think about the story being similar to Jurassic Park? Because we had Force Awakens, that's it, and how similar that was to A New Hope. And I don't know, I think Jurassic World does a better job of paying tribute to Jurassic Park. I think that than when I first sat down and watched Force Awakens and and kind of I was just comparing it too much to A New Hope all the time.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

You know, I I didn't get in my head with that. Um, I think what bothered me about uh The Force Awakens was more so like J.J. Abram's mystery box of it all, which I do think kind of comes into Jurassic a little bit. Um, but like they they talked about so much behind the scenes that like, wow, hey everybody, we want you to know we are going practical, everything is real, you know, because of all the hate that the prequels got and everything. Um so they I that just bothered me so much. So I I wasn't really connecting those dots as thoroughly, but it is obviously very much like the same thing. It's like this this person who is off on a random world, finds some hope and joins the resistance in this case, and you know, it's the same thing. And then there's a big battle at the end. I get it. Story beat-wise, and a lot of the storytelling is very, very different, of course. But um, Jurassic is in my eyes less of a copy. And I know people have said that about Lost World too, that or uh Fallen Kingdom, that it feels very much like the Lost World. That one I that I I less connect with that theory, I think. But Jurassic Park and Jurassic World, they feel so very different to me. I know, like, yeah, kids, kids come to the island, but like it we're not we're not trying to prove an island at this point. It's been proven. There's dinosaurs that break out, yeah. And then it's it is it's got similarities, but I I just feel like the storytelling is so so different that it doesn't it doesn't like connect in that same way that like the Force Awakens does with Star Wars or A New Hope.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

I was when I was watching it, I was thinking that the best I d I still think the first part of the film feels just a it it's too fast a lot of it, and it doesn't let me like ease myself into the island very much. I want to see more, but I I I get what they're trying to do with the fact of you know that people are frantic and just rushing about and you don't get to see the tyrannosaur paddock and the introduction of the tyrannosaur in that section is I find quite funny now, you know, everybody just holding up mobile phones. But yeah, I I wanted a little bit more of a a breather. I think I I think for all of the three world films and uh uh several of us on on the you know that I've spoken about Lost World and Jurassic Park 3 is having those moments where you can just the film can just stop and we just focus on one thing for five, ten minutes.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Yeah, I I do think just in general, movies these days are are lacking that. Uh a lot of movies, so it's a shame because I love those calm discussions that that they had in in the original Jurassic Park, sitting around a lunch table just debating things. No music, nothing happening. It's just calm, no action, like that stuff is is severely missing. And I think a lot of movies are getting it right nowadays, but like but that movie, you're right, it just it keeps going, it keeps going. And Michael Gacino, I love his score in there, but it like it never stops, it never gives room to breathe at all. And he did learn that along the ways. I think there are there are moments of of uh breath there in the other two movies, but but this one just literally a hundred miles per hour the entire time. And you know, I was just thinking about it um when you were saying like uh about like getting to the island and doing all these things, seeing all these things. You mentioned the cell phones. I was thinking, like, oh, at least we didn't get like like if if it was made more so today than 2015, we would have gotten a lot of people being like, all right, so I am on Jurassic World, like which is like which is exactly what Camp Cretaceous did. As I was thinking that, I was like, oh, that's exactly what Camp Cretaceous did because it was a few years later and everything. So they kind of got into that a little bit more. Um, but who who am I joking? I would be doing that that exact thing if I went to Jurassic World.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

So I'd be live streaming from the like Mosasaurus yeah, show, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

But like, but I think I think they I think they did it in a good way where like you know, one kid just doesn't care. They're kind of showing that that that which I don't buy into that at all. No, that people like don't care about dinosaurs anymore. Um and for some reason we're seemingly doing that again. Yeah. I think they kind of like has have had that mission statement pop up a little bit in for rebirth. So yeah, but but I I I agree. Like the the time and the the uh time spent on that shot, like that really amazing shot panning over the park and kind of pushing into the visitor or the discovery center. Yeah, what's it called? Innovation center. Too many different centers, discovery centers in Florida, uh at uh at Islands of Venture. I wanted to go and explore every one of those locations. You know, I've really wanted to see what the water park is like, see what the hotels are like, see anything and like the T-Rex, you know, uh kingdom there. It's like we don't really get to explore that. And and yeah, it's just there's so many great areas of that park. I would just love to explore deeper. And I I've always pushed for like a live action TV show that really doesn't have a ton to do with dinosaurs per se, but like you could you could show that park in operation. I think that would be really, really cool. But Camp Cretaceous did do a decent job of showing us some other locations and and and stuff. Well, not fully fleshed out like like the movies. It it uh it did show us like some expansion. And I I've I've laughed about this before, but Jurassic World Live Tour, when that was on tour doing its thing, there was a scene in there towards the end, I think, and it's got just like gas tanks, like a gas station, and it's got like a Jurassic World logo on it. I'm like, yo, that's awesome. There's a gas tank location, like that's how excited I get of like little details like that expanding the world. So so yeah, it just it rushed into the story of these these characters that we had to follow across three separate movies and uh didn't necessarily show us everything we wanted to see, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Uh from that I uh for me, I think the film really kicks in when the raptors are let loose to go and you know attack the Indominus and you get the amazing. I really like that reveal. I still enjoy it now. Like some people, oh, it's got raptor, everybody would but it's such a I just think it's such a great shot of them realizing it and the raptors turning round and then you see the the head cameras from the raptors and they're all focusing on Owen. And I I just I think that's so good. That is what Colin does really well is those twist moments. And yeah, I think then the film just feels really fun for me. You know, that there's really great comedy with the raptors. The raptors are really great when they grab that bloke off out the back of the truck. It feels visceral, it's it's you know, there's some good jump scares going on. I love the music. Yeah, I I think it for me the film really works from that point on.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

Like, like I was saying before, it was me playing with my toys. But when I was a kid, we had a toy. It was the um what's his name? Uh oh, man, I'm blanking on his name. Uh hey Carter. Uh Carter. I had to like get back into the lost world. Hey Carter. You know, like so. Carter had a motorcycle that like and and also there was also the uh I don't know what his name was, but there was like a guy that like or I don't know who who if it did, maybe it didn't come with somebody, but there was a really awesome like motorcycle with a sidecar. So I was playing with motorcycles with Jurassic Toys all the time. And like that adventure music, you know, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum like having that play while he's driving through the woods as unrealistic as it is, and like having these dinosaurs next to him. There's an awesome camera shot of like down near the ground when the raptors are running right past the camera and the camera's shaking and rumbling. I love that. That is so incredible and so much fun. And um, I know a lot of people say the raptors aren't scary, but like that moment when they're taking out like the engine security or whoever they are, like they're they're that's scary. That's the kind of scary stuff I think is good for me. You know, like that's that's good. I mean, and uh speaking of like scary, but like Gareth Edwards has you know been quoted a lot recently of saying that like Jurassic Park is a horror movie, and I I just I don't agree with him at all. And I I was glad that like Empire magazine was like David Kepp doesn't agree with him on that point. I'm like, yes, me and David Kepp, dude, we're in a line here. But so there's elements of horror in Jurassic Park, so it's not like a it's not really a gory mess. I know there's one arm, there's some you know attacks and things, but I I was fine with the amount of scares and and uh you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

It's Spielberg horror. You know, I think I think I when I spoke to Derek, we we chatted about Jurassic Park and said about you know the jump scares during that film and the um the Dilophosaurus and that scene being probably the most terrific part of um for me anyway, of of Jurassic Park, particularly when it suddenly appears in the car for Nedry. I think it's the I think it's tone more than what happens. I think you don't have to show much. I think you just need to have the moments leading up to it that feel ominous and that you don't you you feel unsafe. And I I think g I think that's probably what they mean is the fact of feeling unsafe in this environment and unsafe around like ev even like large animals like uh gorillas and stuff, when you see people in a in a in a cage with a gorilla and they're just you know, I think that that that thing can rip you to shreds. You've just got you know, it's yeah you've just got just the fear every time I see anything like that. And and yeah, I think the bit where the rats. Get out and they're rushing around. That feels they feel like animals, they feel like real animals. And I I love that. Finally, we're getting because we don't really get that in the other, we get that in Lost World, but you get the speed of them as well in in that sequence.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

Yeah, and you mentioned that guy getting ripped out of the truck. Like that's comedy to me. Like, there's a whole part where like Claire is like, I don't know, like hold hands or whatever, and they're like the kids don't know what to do in the back of this truck. Guys getting ripped out. Like, there's a lot of comedy and like scary moments to that. So I I love that. I love those those those beats there. And and um, yeah, yeah, it's it's fun, it's fun. It's uh it's got some good action, and I think it's got it out, it's got it all. It's got the action, it's got some funny stuff, it's got some some scares, and it's it's kind of showing you the world that you wish you had back in Jurassic Park, you know, like how how fleshed out it is. So I I appreciate what they were doing there.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

And I even you know, I like the ending, and I think the ending, like The Lost World, all of the misgivings maybe that people had about the film going through like um like Jurassic World. When you get to the Main Street scene with the Indominus and Blue and the T-Rex coming out, uh you I forget all the flaws with that film during that sequence because you're just like, oh my word, yeah, it feels I really enjoy it, and I love again. I think the music of Michael Jacino really sells it. It's big, it's bombastic, it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Yeah, oh, the music is so good there. Like it's literally just like battle music, and it's it's so good. Um, and and yeah, having that all come together, like you've seen the the gifts, the pictures, the whatever little clips constantly of that sequence, but when you're watching it after you've watched the whole movie leading up to that, it is so thrilling and so fun. And the honestly, like Colin Trevaro's camera work in that section is is flawless. Like it's really great. Like, you think if you watch the camera just kind of moving through that entire set and going through buildings and stuff, it's really cool what he's doing there. And to know that none of that is really actually happening in front of them as they're navigating those streets and the buildings, it's really cool what he did there. So if you if you haven't like go back and watch that, everybody, and just like take a look at the camera work there, it's really interesting. So, but that is that is thrilling, and that that is a moment I think I really, really remember from that first viewing is and this is something that like the first trilogy wasn't capable of doing necessarily, like um too too much, because yes, they could have done it with some of the characters, but they didn't really get you too emotionally attached to different storylines or things too too much. But I think in terms of like having a dinosaur come back, like you know, whatever it was, however many years later, it's uh it felt I felt something, and I was like, oh man, they're gonna kill her off after all this time.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

They're gonna I was oh my god, they're not gonna do the same as Jurassic Part 3.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

Yeah, and uh look, I didn't care about that at all. Like that was comedy to me. Like it I was I love the Spinosaurus, so that didn't mean anything to me. It was just a T-Rex, it wasn't anything that I loved, it wasn't anything. So to have this one be at the center of this battle and literally, you know, have its neck in the throat of the uh the uh Indominus there, like it's just or in the teeth. It was it was brutal, and I was scared very much so for that dinosaur. I absolutely thought it was gonna die. And then to have blue come out of nowhere in slow-mo, as silly as it was, like with that music in particular, which I don't understand, but like it was it was awesome. And then the whole like the way it was all finished off of the Mosasaurus. That's the moment where I start to feel bad. And I'm like, oh, I actually feel sympathy for that creature, just like Gareth's trying to tell us about uh the dis distortus rex. You know, there's something about that that's you know, you're you're gonna have some sympathy for it. So that's how I felt about the Indominus after its killing spree, after it, you know, killed people and dinosaurs and wrecked stuff. I still felt bad for it at the end of the day, you know, because it was just a dog in a cage, basically.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

And talking about the camera work, actually, you've just sparked me thinking about it. And uh Colin does a really good job, I think like uh Spielberg did in the original, the changing of the perspective. So you go from the kids' point of view to the to the adult's point of view all the way through Jurassic Park, but rarely do you see the dinosaur's point of view. And I think Colin in that attack, you know, where you've got the the two sets of fights going on, really, you've got the dinosaur fight, and then you've got the people trying to escape it and you know trying to get involved. Yeah, and you see like he moves the camera from the T-Rex's point of view down to then into the shops, and you see it from Claire and Owen's point of view, and then you go back, and then actually, yeah, I I until you said that, I hadn't really picked up on that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

It's really cool, and I know like everybody wants the movie to be Jurassic Park, but that that will never happen. We will never ever get Jurassic Park again. Sorry, Jurassic World Rebirth is not gonna be Jurassic Park again, as good as it could be. It's not gonna be Jurassic Park. It's just not possible, just the same way as uh a new hope is or uh The Force Awakens is not gonna be a new hope. So we can't go back to those moments of getting like the perspective and talking about the beauty and the majesty of revealing dinosaurs for the first time. You can only do that once. So I appreciate Colin trying some new things and doing stuff a little bit differently and showing us that there's new there's new perspectives, there's new way to new ways to view these dinosaurs with names, with relationships with the with the dinosaurs. So I I appreciated what he was doing there, and I I really liked so much of that stuff. I love the blue and owen stuff, and uh the one the one perspective I I absolutely hated though was the uh like the af the the aftermath of the battle with the T-Rex and uh there's just that shot from I guess it's like from like is it from like blue's perspective or something? Whatever it is, it's like yeah, it's bad, it's horrible. And like most of the movie looks pretty good, but like that moment looks god-awful. And I don't know why they left the bigger. I don't ever want to see the T-Rex from that point of view ever again. It's horrible. Um, but outside of that, I think they've done a phenomenal job of bringing these dinosaurs to life and making them look pretty real. Dominion, like everything looks so good in Dominion, and Rebirth looks like it's gonna be even better. Like it's it's crazy how how how good they've like perfected it over the years.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

So, how do you think we are now 10 years later? How how do you think this first initial part of the Jurassic World trilogy stands out?

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Well, for me, if if I want to just bring it from my perspective, I I I think it stands up so well. I like I think the movie holds up incredibly well. I watched it again recently and I was showing my kids all of them, actually, in like weird orders. I don't know what I was doing, but um it's just like whatever, just throw something on. Um and they were in any order, it doesn't matter. I think Jurassic World really, really holds up still. It still works on every level. And I think if you talk about like the entire franchise, like I I love all especially the Jurassic World franchise, like I love what they did, and I love that we were able to expand into an animated show, a short film, and I love the scores that they've really held up really well and they they got better and better as they went along. And so I think like they and and Jurassic World's an interesting one because the way that Universal has viewed it for so long now, for the past you know, 10 years, I guess now, it it's been like their icon, like Universal in the parks and stuff like that. It like they have never been able to get away from Jurassic World. It's been so it made so much money and did so well and was so apparent to everybody in the world that like Jurassic World's a thing, and we all love Jurassic World. Everybody, you know, outside of like film Twitter and stuff like that, like everybody loves Jurassic World. And it's weird to now see them trying to distance themselves, like in a way, while still holding that title, still holding Jurassic World in their name, because they're not gonna demolish like the Jurassic World The Ride in in Hollywood or or the Velocicoaster or the Beijing attraction, which looks phenomenal. So we're at this weird point where it's like, how does Universal view it? That's what I'm more curious about. Like, what is their perspective on on how this is aged? Uh, because I love it. I think it's great. I didn't think we needed to go necessarily to a new, like start fresh in a new era and all that. So I I'm I'm curious more so of what they think this is aged like. Uh, because in my mind, I'm like, they don't think it aged well at all, I guess. I don't know. Because they're changing things up.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Yeah, yeah, changing things up, and also we haven't had any announcement about any 10th anniversary events or anything for Jurassic World. And it was without it and without it hitting like it did, reinvigorating the franchise, we wouldn't have rebirth. Like it would, we would not be sitting here. So, you know, however much people might not like the the films that came afterwards, Jurassic World did an incredible job of reminding people that actually people love dinosaurs, they love going to see Jurassic Park films, you know, Jurassic films.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Yeah. And that's the thing that stood the test of time, right? Is is Jurassic films. There's there's no other movies that can do it quite like them. And even if even if people don't like them, they're the only ones that are out there. So you kind of have to watch them if you want to if you want to see dinosaurs. Yeah, like there's no other options. Yeah, you know, they try, Adam Driver tried. Uh Disney tried with the good dinosaur a while back, and and and dinosaur the movie a while back too. Um, but like, and Disney is like, we don't like dinosaurs at all anymore, to the point where we're gonna get rid of them in their in their theme parks. And and it's just weird. Like, dinosaurs are still very relevant and still very exciting. And Jurassic has proven that. And Jurassic World, I think, like uh, especially with the theme parks, they're really banking on that just being a a very popular thing for the for the foreseeable future. So um I'll be curious to like see what they do with rebirth and where does that take us? And like how much do we distance ourselves from Jurassic World as a movie and and the the sequels? And um, you know, do we ever get a a rebirth land somewhere in a theme park? Or, you know, uh what what kind of tie-in stuff do we get for that? Like, will there be a Jurassic World Rebirth live tour? You know, like how how far out there are we going, or is this like a like a quick, you know, one and done kind of deal? Like, I I'm very curious as to what the idea is here.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Like, I'm gonna really enjoy, I think, watching Rebirth, but the kind of anticipation of what's gonna happen afterwards, I have absolutely no clue about what's what's gonna happen next.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

Well, yeah. I mean, we've got like general, you know, thoughts and ideas as far as what's happening in the movie itself. So like we can kind of pinpoint a lot of the the plot points and where they're gonna head, but like ultimately I don't know what the goal is. Like, what no, where are we, where are we going? What are we doing? What's the what's the end game for the Jurassic franchise with this new era? Um, because it's not gonna end, it's not gonna be done. No, you know, it's not gonna stop there. And I know they they just talked about the potential for sequels, and Gareth hasn't heard anybody talking about that. And but at the same time, like I think Frank Marshall was like talking about the cast and maybe locking them up, or maybe not. I don't know. Like, so who really knows where they're gonna go with this? And but but it would like you said, it wouldn't be here without Jurassic World. We wouldn't have gotten so much uh, you know, all the the toys and merchandise and the theme parks and the live tours and the podcasts and YouTube's and the uh you know, the fan community, which I think is is like the most important thing to come out of Jurassic World. And that's the best part that's like tested its time here, is is the fact that we we all came together and created a really awesome community online. And yeah, uh, you know, there's there's different which I I've always wanted for Jurassic. Star Wars has always been like that kind of goal, uh, as far as like what do you want? And I know the Star Wars fan community is like a it's an iffy thing that you want to compare yourself to, but like, yeah, but in terms of like having endless fan outlets and conversation and Star Wars celebration and and all that stuff, we we've wanted to hit that goal. And I think Jurassic World didn't it didn't fully catch us up to that speed, but we're getting there. We're really getting there. We're kind of like we're on we're on the map now a little bit as a fan base, which I appreciate. And it's it's nice that like we've been able to touch base with so many cool people over the years, and that's that's been my favorite part of the past uh you know 10 years and and the legacy of Jurassic World.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

And yeah, I'd just like to say the Jurassic Park podcast. I I do love it, it's an amazing podcast. Uh it's lively and vibrant, and I think you're such a great host. And I'd just like to say thank you so much for joining me on my podcast as I'm just starting out.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Oh no, no, no, I uh don't agree with anything that you said there basically. I feel like I'm just winging it the whole time. I don't know what I'm doing. And uh, but I appreciate that, uh, the kind words. It's been really, really fun and uh you know gives me the opportunity to talk with people like you and so many other people over the years. It's it's kind of crazy. It's been 10 years now. So what a what a wild ride it's been.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Yeah, have you got any kind of standouts in the past 10 years that really like a moment that you were like, I'm really glad I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Uh I mean, look, uh, the the entire thing, I I um just like meeting the people that I've talked to in in the internet and and meeting them in person, being like a part of Jennifer's wedding with like that was really cool. Like, I you know, I had met her through the fan community. She was a part of the show. I was in her wedding. And then like getting to do more like things like interviews with like Jurassic World Live Tour. And I I like literally did an interview on the show floor, like with a big round table, and it was chaotic. And and I was horrified the entire time because my my equipment stopped working and I had to scramble to get it to work, but it was still like an awesome experience. And and there's been some you know just great interviews and things over the years that I'm really proud of and excited by. So yeah, it's been a it's been so many like things all together, friendships and and uh professional experiences and and you know, Mattel or somebody sending me something that it's just like really awesome to and then to pass that on to like my kids too, who you know, they see me doing this and they they get excited when like a new package shows up and they want to unbox it with me. And I'm like, all right, whatever, let's let's go ahead and do it. So like it's it's really cool for me to be able to do that with them and share Jurassic with them in these past few years.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

Um yeah, I'd just like to say thank you so much for joining me today. It's been an absolute pleasure to relive the Jurassic world and just to say that you are fantastic at doing at doing what you're doing. I think, and you and Tom, you have such a great chemistry together. I I I all all all the podcasts, to be honest, that every single one has something that's different. And I love seeing opening up my podcast app and seeing one of them pop up. And I mean, right, okay, that's my train journey sorted.

SPEAKER_02 59:47

Yeah, well, that's what I wanted. I I wanted um something that was accessible for so many people, all families, kids, you know, adults, um, to kind of hit that middle ground where people can all kind of enjoy it. And I was a big fan back in, you know, the like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull days when when that movie came out, the the Indy cast, I still am, I still listen to them all the time. Uh, but the Indy cast like was a model for me. Like, I was like, man, they do it so well where they have anybody from the fan community be a part of the show. And I I really loved that. And I was like, Jurassic needs that. So like that's why I was like, all right, let's finally do it. I waited too long and I was just like, all right, now's the time. Let's give it, let's give people like Tom, like Aaron, uh, you know, Ed Jay. Like, there's so many people out there that have been involved in the show. Let's give them an outlet to do something. And even Connor recently, more so with like the W DNA seek uh um segments, like that's not anything I could ever do. And I I like having people like that that can have those conversations. They're basically having their own podcasts, and then I'm just putting it out. Like I'm just like the like the person to upload it. Like that's about it. And I I I like being that person that can just kind of showcase whatever whatever's happening, what talk about whatever's going on, but also give other people a voice, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

Great. Um, so where can people find you on on online?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

Well, uh Jurassic Park Podcast.com is the made main spot there. So go find us over there, and you can find all the you know, Spotify, Apple Podcast links, YouTube. We do live streams uh every Wednesday night, 9 p.m. EST, um, here in New Jersey. So uh and then recently we've been doing more so like uh a first Thursday because of the Beyond the Gates drops and stuff like that. So you can find us over on YouTube live streaming. And um I also do like two other shows. So I do like the force cast, so we talk about Star Wars. We're really getting into Andor currently. I do a theme park podcast. Did I say what it was? It was the force cast. Uh I do a theme park podcast that's called Grim Grinning Hosts, where we talk about Universal, we talk about Disney and all that stuff. So that's a great uh episode or show. And uh yeah, that's that's about it. You can just find me in all those places there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:55

Amazing. Well, I'd just like to say again, thank you so much. And yeah, we'll we'll have to have a chat maybe once rebirth comes out.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Yes, absolutely. Let's do it. Yeah, and we you gotta come on our show at some point too.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

My huge thanks to Brad for that conversation. I love talking to him. It is so much fun. I really hope that we can talk in the future once Rebirth is out. If you like what I do here on this podcast, please leave me a review and a rating on Apple Podcasts. It really does help this show find a bigger audience. And uh again, thank you so much to everybody that has sent some really nice and touching messages about how much they're actually enjoying this show in the lead up to watching the new film. I can feel all your excitement. My excitement is growing as well, and I've still got so many episodes and amazing guests to bring you as well. Next time I'm talking to Samantha Endres, and we are discussing Fallen Kingdom. Please let me know your thoughts about Fallen Kingdom over on my Instagram page at Road2Rebirth Pod. But until next time, I'll say thank you very much for listening and goodbye.