gwunspoken - Beyond the Plan

Twelve, A Chair, And Big Dreams

• Garry

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A quiet beach, a long bridge, and a kid with a bigger hit than most adults. We sit with a twelve-year-old Indigenous athlete from Bribie Island who speaks with disarming clarity about life in a wheelchair, the rules and thrills of wheelchair rugby, and why being treated “too nice” misses the point. He rates his day, laughs about PlayStation vs Xbox, and explains how a volleyball becomes a weapon when you’ve got timing, grip, and a ten-second count ticking down.

The heart of the conversation beats on court: specialist chairs that cost around 15k, the bounce rule every eight to ten seconds, the no over-and-back line, and the tactical joy of clean contact. He admits the first sessions were nerve-racking, then smiles at the memory of tipping someone over during a comp. The goal isn’t fuzzy—he wants the Paralympics—and he lays out the pathway via junior comps, coaching, and consistent training. Off the court, he’s clear about what he misses—running for the sake of it—and bolder about what he wants from people: normal treatment, not special handling.

Between the big ideas, we travel local: dolphins by the bridge, fishing on sandbanks with mullet, prawns, and pilchards, and the agony of a line snapping when a cod runs. School gets a wry assessment—lunch and friends keep it bearable—while home life centres on a hard-working mum and a house where rap beats out country. It’s a portrait of resilience without varnish: funny, sharp, and full of momentum.

If you enjoy honest stories about youth sport, disability, and everyday ambition, tap play and share this one with a mate who needs the lift. Subscribe for more candid chats, leave a review to help others find the show, and tell us: what question would you have asked him?

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to another edition of Beyond the Plan. I've got a very special guest here and his own house. And I've got Jack on, how are you, mate? Good. That's good. Um I'm going to go through a few things here. We've gone through this before, we've had one podcast, but a few things have changed since then, so I'm looking forward to some of these responses. If I said to you to check in now out of five, five is awesome, one is terrible. How are you feeling right now?

SPEAKER_02:

Hmm. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_00:

Between one and five? Uh. One's means you're not feeling good, five meaning you're feeling awesome. What are you at the moment? Three. Three, okay. Are you nervous about this podcast? A little bit. Okay, that's normal. I am too. Um something that you're grateful for at the moment. What's something you're really thankful for in your life?

SPEAKER_02:

Christmas coming up.

SPEAKER_00:

Have you got your list free to go? What you're gonna ask for?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I'm getting a new PlayStation.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. Is it a new one coming out? Is a new one coming out?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no. It's not a new one.

SPEAKER_00:

Isn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's GTA 6 is coming out.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's something. Yeah, yeah, okay. Alright. New PlayStation. Alright. What's the difference between a PlayStation and an Xbox? Like people often say Xbox is better, but then all the PlayStation people are getting the PlayStation's better. What's why PlayStation not Xbox?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, they're different consoles, really. Yeah. They do the same things, but on Xbox you can play like Xbox One and Xbox 360 games, which is good. So you can play older games. Yeah. But on PlayStation, they hate doing that. So you can only play games that are like a newer.

SPEAKER_00:

Like so a bit like Apple. Apple sort of the same thing with their phones and stuff. Alright. Um do most of your friends do they normally have PlayStation or Xbox? Oh. Was it like a 50-50 thing? Yeah, probably 50-50. Okay. Alright, or fair fair present coming up. Are you doing the right things with mum and sucking it up? That's good. Alright, so people obviously can't see us because this is a podcast one, but just tell the people who listen to you now whereabouts you're living. Which suburb are you living in? Like where are you living?

SPEAKER_02:

I live at Bribe Island, Ballara.

SPEAKER_00:

Nice. It's nice area here. We often have a fish out here too. Um explain your family very quickly for us. So I know you're a proud indigenous man, um, but who's who's in your close family here where you live? My mum. Yep. My brother. Yeah.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

Pets? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two dogs. Do you have a favourite?

SPEAKER_02:

Can you whisper it?

SPEAKER_00:

Just in case they're listening, they're in the catch.

unknown:

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_02:

Um burrito.

SPEAKER_00:

Burrito's line is the French bulldog. He's cute. Um he's the one who sleeps with you, doesn't he? In your bed? Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes? Okay. Oh yeah. Okay. Going to talk about this really briefly. First thing that comes to your mind when I say the word school. Uh my maths exam. Because it's coming up soon? Yeah. Okay. Do you generally like school or not? Uh. No. The girls, my girls say the same thing, but they reckon it's like a four out of ten. And if you didn't have lunchtime with their friends, they wouldn't want to go at all. Is that true? Yeah, that's definitely true. And you got some good mates, like some good classmates? Uh. Yeah. And are they been sort of friends the whole way through, or are they sort of new friends? Aww.

SPEAKER_02:

Some of them have been there. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

That's cool. Alright. Um, mass exam coming up. You said you just nailed a science exam? Hmm. And then how many more weeks you got left?

SPEAKER_02:

Grade seven? Yeah. Fuck. I think.

SPEAKER_00:

What are we, week seven?

SPEAKER_02:

My last yeah, we're week six, I think, right now. Or seven. Did you say six? Six or seven. You had to throw it in there, didn't you? Well played. I think it oh, it ends in week nine, tens, I think. Okay. The last week is um free though. Oh, I like that. You don't do any work.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

You can do anything.

SPEAKER_00:

So do you find those weeks good or boring and slow? What? The last week of school when you don't have like work? No, they're the best. Yeah, you got in? Because as a teacher, it just felt like it went forever. If we just do volleyball every lesson or something, it just goes forever. So, okay, looking forward. So you've only got really three or four weeks left.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright. Alright, we're gonna get in some serious questions here, and then we've got some fun stuff to finish off. So we're gonna test you a bit today. Um here's something you probably got asked when you're maybe three or four years older. What would Declan make you like to be? Or how would you like to live when you're older? Because you're 12 now? Yeah, I'm 12. So if you were to, and I'm not gonna be patronizing you, but uh the youth of today often find it hard to think in the future because they're just in the moment. But if you're having like your ideal life, what is something you'd like to be doing? Oh. There's no wrong answers. Uh give me a couple. Just uh What's the question again? Well, do you have like an o you know start with a job, do you have like an occupation like to be when you get older? Like is there something you go back to that?

SPEAKER_02:

Something I can do from home and run a business or something? I'm not that smart, mate.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, you just nodded your science exam. What are you talking about? You just kill it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it's got probably like a B plus.

SPEAKER_00:

Is alright to start? Alright, so something from home?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Like to work something, right? And then what about um where you got to live? Would you leave gorgeous bribey or would you go on stage here? You love bribe that. It's all just going off in the back in the air. It's all happening on the podcast there, looking outside at the shed and barking at something. And now it's calmed down. Um what is it about bribey that people who come here don't want to leave? Because I've got a couple people out here. Because it's a pain in the ask coming in off the highway. Going through a ninja you have to go 60, there's cops all the time. It's all it's like a massive drive in, you have to go slow. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02:

Old as road works, right?

SPEAKER_00:

But what is it about bribe you love? Because you're not alone here. A lot of people love your line here.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no, it's just the beaches, uh. Yeah. Like the beaches. Yeah. People besides the old drivers.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, classify old holds on.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't even know how they're allowed to drive. Ask me, they won't even have their turn signals on. That's true. And we'll just try to pit maneuver you. Well, maybe they just do like a compulsory license at 70 or something.

SPEAKER_00:

They should have to have one.

SPEAKER_02:

See if it's what they're doing that though. Are they? Unless they just like have dementia and just decide to go for a drive.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, they just I have one for it, I haven't really. Get on the little moped the scooter. Okay, so Bribey's good because of the beaches. It is a nice, always a nice area here. I like going across the bridge coming to yours and you just see the water, it's always nice. And the dolphins. Yeah. Have we seen a few dolphins lately? Next a bridge chasing stuff, so yeah. Alright, what about um another serious question? What about any short-term goals? So we'll talk about when you're older and you might want to work from home and live at Bribey, but is there anything you've got planned in the next year or two that you want to accomplish or achieve? Is there some things you're going, actually I'd like to have that or accomplish that? No. Like is it does it fire you up to, for example, to do well at school or not really? Nah. No?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. C is pass them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, okay, so you just want to have it happy to pass. Um And you don't what about things like your sport? If I want to talk about your wheelchair. So you're smashing that out, apparently, you're doing really well. Yeah. Um that's Thursday nights, and now I heard you're going to Wednesday and Thursday nights now. Yeah. So what's your goal with that? Do you want to if you want to make some rep teams or how how's that work? Talking to you.

SPEAKER_02:

I want to go to the Paralympics one day, it'll be fun.

SPEAKER_00:

That's cool. So that's it. That's a goal. Yeah, I guess. So when are they every four years as well?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Look it up.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I don't know my phone.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, Declan's thinking about that, like he's he's reached out to me, he needs a manager, apparently, so um we're gonna sign some documents. I've been asking him to sign it for about 12 weeks, but he still hasn't done that yet. Um so Paralympics for wheelchair rugby, really awesome. Um and so how do you how do you get there? Like you played weekly, do you then get scouted by someone, or is your coach a scout?

SPEAKER_02:

Like, how do you get There's like comps you can go to?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And you've been to one?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, junior. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, wasn't that long ago? Was it a couple of months maybe?

SPEAKER_02:

September 20th, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. And you enjoyed that?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And have you have have you like picked it up really quickly, like better than you thought you would? Like, you know, when you started playing, or do you were you always pretty confident when you went out there?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I was a bit nervous, like for my first time.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh have you been um have you been knocked over yet?

SPEAKER_02:

No, I've I've knocked someone over.

SPEAKER_00:

You bully. How'd that feel? Oh. It felt good, didn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it was at my comp. I knocked over like a little kid. Oh no. No, it wasn't that little, it was probably like a year younger than me.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But I was like chasing him and I whacked into him, folded over onto his side. That was he. Oh it was it was good. He was right, Phil. He took it. Most of the impact is just on the chairs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. But it must be frightening that suddenly your whole chair's falling over. Hmm? It must be pretty frightening though that suddenly your whole chair has been thrown over.

SPEAKER_02:

I think the most I've gotten was like on one wheel, probably. One side. Because what can happen is you can roll up someone's wheel. I've done it on accident. So their will their wheel will be sideways and you'll come up on the edge. It'll just go like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. And they just smash it out. Well, I mean you've we've talked about this a little bit because I'm really interested in coming to see one of your your games, but um what's what's a typical chair worth? How much how expensive I thought, do you know? Around 15k maybe. 15k. That's crazy. And just just briefly tell the audience who's gonna listen to this, like what's what's the main goal? What kind of ball do you use?

SPEAKER_02:

You use a volleyball volleyball.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And do you have do you have to bounce it or anything?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you have to bounce it every like eight to ten seconds, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And then pass or just keep going?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so what determines a changeover? So if I'm in a wheelchair going towards you and you're against me, um, obviously you'd you'd smash me, but if I was to go with the ball, when do I have to give up the ball? Like when's it a turnover? Like I obviously can't just sit there and have five wheelchairs to smash in and I'll just still hold it and say, We're not getting it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you can, you can. If like all of them come at you and hit you, and you end up making a pass, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00:

What if I just hold the ball? Like, is there a three second one?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, if you hold it ten seconds.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, ten seconds you've got. Alright, cool. And then the deal is obviously holding the ball and then wheeling across it across a line to score.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And there's no um over back.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, so there's no dead ball line or anything.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, if you like go over the half line and then come back.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, you can't do that. You can't do that. So it's always gonna be positive moving forward. Nice. Alright, so tell me quickly, what's the best part of the game you like? Smashing them. You like defense, smashing into them. So would you rather do a massive like tackle or score a try? What would you rather? Smash into smash. Yeah. Smiling or saying this is a bit stippery out there. That's awesome. Alright, um, here's a good one. I reckon this is a good one, but I'm not here to go with this one, right? What's the hardest thing about being twelve? Is there anything hard?

SPEAKER_02:

No fucking no responsibilities, not hard. It's not hard. No. Maybe this is the schoolwork. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I had someone who was here twelve as well, and they said probably you get a stage where you just want to do your own thing, and either parents or teachers say you have to do it this way, and it gets frustrating after a while. Yeah. Um okay, gonna get a bit a bit deep now, that's alright. Talk to me now about um life in a wheelchair. Before and after? Because last time we spoke on the on the podcast, I do remember that you said that you know you've actually taken it really well. And you've taken everything in your stride, and if you got rugby now and you you're seeing up opportunities. But how hard has it really been from when it first happened to now?

SPEAKER_02:

When it first happened, it wasn't like hard on me exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because I didn't really understand.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Because how old were you when it happened?

SPEAKER_02:

Six, six or seven times.

SPEAKER_00:

Six or seven, maybe that's twice as common. I wonder if you can do it six or seven times. That's good. Yes, yeah, so you're very young. Yeah. Um, and then okay, so has it got progressively harder as you get older?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. Yeah, I guess with UTIs and that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And do you find Like what what is the thing that you I hope you ask this? Like, what is what are some things that you get frustrated about that you miss? About not having to be in a wheelchair. So is there things that you actually really miss now that you can't do? Or have you just adapted and gone and accepted it? Like, is there still stuff where you wake up and go, you know what, I actually hate running, but I just I'd love to have a go for a run?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've all got art.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Is there anything else? Ah. No? No. Okay. What are some of the things that you've actually it's like what are some things that have been better than you thought it was going to be? Like obviously the wheelchair would be an opportunity. What do you mean? Like, has there been anything where you've gone, okay, my life is actually completely gone now because I'm in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. But there's actually been things in your life where you've gone, actually, no, I'm actually lucky, I can still do this, I can still do this, I can still do this. Because there's things you can obviously still do, isn't it? Like you do things do do you think people treat you differently in a wheelchair?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

How? Because I love this, because I love it.

SPEAKER_02:

Some of them like they're mostly nicer.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh they hate. They're gonna say, how does that make you feel? I hate it. Yeah. Because they want treating you more special because you're in a chair. Yeah. Okay. So if you're talking to someone new and they and they said to you, okay, well, definitely just want to chat chat to you and get to know you, is that one of the things you'd actually want to say if you could just say just treat me like normal? Hmm. Yeah, okay. Alright, we're getting through this. Um who's been your biggest support when when you've been in the chair now? My mum. Mum. Tell me a bit about her. What like that? Support you with everything. Still goes to work. Works her butt off. Obviously has to save up for a PlayStation.

SPEAKER_02:

It's good. Oh, and my birthday is um on February 20th. Yeah. I'm also getting a new phone then.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, the technology. Well, it'd be an iPhone 17 Pro.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00:

It'll probably be an eight or nineteen by then.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. I don't know what she's getting then. Okay. I think it's a 16.

SPEAKER_00:

And it'll be 13, teenage. Yep. Nice. Alright. Um, that's good. A lot of people mum's who's supportive too. Um here's one that I want to ask you because I've heard I've had a guy I've been looking after two a bit older, but my around my age, and he's had a motorbike accident and he's in a wood chair for rest of his life, and he's now guest speaking and like he's making the most of it, and he's the same thing, just treat me the same. Um what would be your advice to someone else who may have just got an injury or you know, you're you're unlucky because you didn't have an injury, was it?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I had a ABM. Yeah. Which is a tangle of blood vessels in muscle mind.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. So if some suddenly someone your age or older found themselves the next day like you did, or next couple of days in a chair and stuff, and they like devastated, like, what the hell? What would be your advice for them?

SPEAKER_02:

Grow up as hard as it sounds.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. As in just keep going. Yeah, it's cool. That's cool. Because even today you can't how you got a spine your face. I thought this is so good, your attitude's always so good, but I'm sure there must be still some tough days.

SPEAKER_01:

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um Can you take us just quickly? Let's the last question you got about the chairs. Like, you've got some like you've got a few chairs, haven't you? Like, how many of you got all together?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

I've got um like a manual one that I'll push with, got an electric one. Yeah. And I've got a a like beach one. Oh. So it floats on the water with its wheels.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it working?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's it's fun. It's in the shed right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so you can actually say, can you shoot it?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, can you show it? My brother's nearly drowned me in it once.

SPEAKER_00:

Take me through that.

SPEAKER_02:

Because I used to like wheelies. So like they'll put it on the back so my head was nearly in the water.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

And one time my head was like all the way in the water.

SPEAKER_00:

Under the water.

SPEAKER_02:

And they didn't and they didn't know that I couldn't like get out. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00:

How old are you?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I was like eight to nine.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're just actually going under and under the article. And I was like, this. Oh my god. They must have been stressing out. They must have been stressing out when they saw it. Like they must have stressed out when they saw it. No, they didn't know. So what happened?

SPEAKER_02:

I think I got put back up and I like got out. Oh my god. You're blowing up. We get angry. We get angry. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00:

Just fucking drown me, can't you? So here's a question then. Can we fish off that? Like can we wait out? Like if I get my knee deep, get deep. Can you go out and that and and fish?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know, I've never tried. Why can't we have a crack at that?

SPEAKER_00:

If not today, let's try it. If it's going, there's nothing we can just get out that little stand bank and go out. That'd be awesome. Alright. So Deki is a bit of a fishman. You're going fishing tomorrow, I believe.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. Fish ability.

SPEAKER_00:

Have you caught any good fish on that vessel yet?

unknown:

Hmm?

SPEAKER_00:

Have you caught any good fish on that vessel yet?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, I hooked on to a fat stingray.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_02:

And before that, um the guy said it must have been like a cod.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And that was hard. I was just like full rod. Was like slouched over. And this is a heavy duty rod.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's just bending over. And it was just the drag was going off too.

SPEAKER_02:

And then and then it broke on the boat, I think. The line snapped on the boat.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, did that?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You got to see it?

SPEAKER_02:

Never got to see it.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what they said probably was a cod just taken off like that. Hmm? That's what they said it was a cod probably just taking off.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's awesome. What do they use for bait out there? To have like a variety of baits?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, they got mullet, prawns, and sometimes oh pilchards.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. And do you get to choose or do they just put it on for you?

SPEAKER_02:

You can choose, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Um now I know you like the mango Pepsi masses. Who's going on the boat with you tomorrow? Like what is the support looking on a boat with you tomorrow? Who's that? I think it's Aubrey.

unknown:

Hmm?

SPEAKER_00:

Aubrey?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So Aubrey's in the background.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, he is flying Thursday night, uh.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh Wednesday night.

SPEAKER_02:

Wednesday night, uh.

SPEAKER_00:

Aubrey's going away again.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Where's he going now? New Zealand was it? Yeah. Is it business or pleasure? Uh business. Business. Okay. My wife's in next to New Zealand right now. Um, so Aubrey will be on the boat with you. So he's gonna back this up. But I'm going to buy you a mandated Pepsi Max next time I see you. If Aubrey can witness this, you have to go up to the captain in a real serious space and go, mate, I've been on this vessel a few times now. How about you take us to so many good spots? Without laughing or smile. And see what he says. Deal. Just say, just stop being a problem fishing, mate, and it's time now. It's time to take us to some good spots. No smiling. And if Walbury comes back and goes, Yeah, you did it. Up for the challenge. Nah. No, I can't wait. I can't. I can't. You'd probably laugh at that problem. Oh my god, that's funny. Alright. Here's some quick questions to finish off. You ready? Yep. Um, you have to try and answer these as fast as you can. Now these may have changed from last time we did this podcast a couple of months ago, so if I repeat, just that's okay, just favorite straight away, ready. Favourite sport? Hmm? Favourite sport?

SPEAKER_02:

Wheelchair Ogby.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Favourite food.

SPEAKER_02:

Tacos.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. What kind of meat?

SPEAKER_02:

Like mints.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Favourite drink?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, Monster Mango Loco.

SPEAKER_00:

Ooh. Do you have a favourite colour? Do you have a favourite colour?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, like a just a red red.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Oh no, that's a tough one, wasn't it? Do you have like a lucky number? Nah. No. So if they said to you, yep, you've made the Australian team for Wheelie and Rugby, and you can pick your own number. Six, seven. You're obviously starting to three. You've got at least go for six or seven. Um, do you have a best friend? Yeah. You want to shout out to them or not? Nah. Okay. They know who they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um favorite all-time movie. Like if it's on TV and you've seen it so many times, but you what you have to watch it no matter what. Oh. If you say fast and furious. If you say fast and furious, just relationships over because it's all I hear people say is fast and furious.

SPEAKER_02:

It's fast and furious. What the like the first one.

SPEAKER_00:

People say number five. I've never seen them. I've seen like half of them.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no, they're just like superhero movies now. Oh, yeah. No, they're they're like superhero movies, fucking.

SPEAKER_00:

So, one favourite movie. Just if you had to pick if one's just on TV, you have to watch it. Like, you're not even searching up Netflix. If you happen to walk past TV, it's on, you're like, oh yeah, I have to watch this. I actually like he taking your time because it means you actually think it but it's gone. Whatever. It's good.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think I'll have one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah? Not a series, like Equalisers or John Wicks or you know those.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't like any of them.

SPEAKER_00:

Don't like the actions?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't like John Wick. More of a romantic banana. Uh Titanic, yeah. Nah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know that. Alright, um, this is a really good, tough question, actually. Favourite fruit besides bananas?

SPEAKER_02:

Whoa, very tough, very tough. Um mangoes.

SPEAKER_00:

Mangoes, alright. Um if you have a favourite holiday destination, where would you go? Mum's like, money doesn't matter. We go to the airport if you want to, and we're just going to Sweden. Oh, what is that?

SPEAKER_02:

How's the most blondes?

SPEAKER_00:

The women. How's it going? How's it girl? Think up.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

Not yet? I'll just write it down. We're going to short-term goal of this.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm just too hot. They don't want to speak to me.

SPEAKER_00:

They're too embarrassed. Alright, I'll just write this down. Decky with blonde Swedish girl. Okay, done. Um besides bribey, if you could live anywhere else in the world, where would it be?

SPEAKER_02:

Blacktown Sydney. Because that's where I'm from.

SPEAKER_00:

It's pretty rough that area, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh I think it's the highest crime in Sydney. Biggest highest home. Yeah, and it was a good Indian restaurant there. Ooh.

SPEAKER_00:

Nice. That's good. Okay. Um Are you a night or morning person?

SPEAKER_02:

Night.

SPEAKER_00:

Night, okay. What about your favourite season in the weather? Like what kind of years? Summer, winter, are years of in between?

SPEAKER_02:

I like summer. Summer? I like the heat.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Here's one for you. Favourite song at the moment? Or if you can't come up with a favourite song, song title.

SPEAKER_02:

Favourite song? Hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Or if you can't come up with a song, give us like a favorite title. Like my wife, Lola Death, but terrible, it's just saying country.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't like country. My mum plays it too much. All over here is country when she's drinking.

SPEAKER_00:

But if I'm at home, I'll come home the same thing. It'll be playing all the time. It's always the same songs.

SPEAKER_02:

As in breakup, as in drinking. Look, it's always just the same country songs.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay. Have mum plays. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

It'll be like the fa same three songs on repeat just for hours. We'll have to get mum and she and she likes Taylor Swift too. So Swifty. Uh.

SPEAKER_00:

Not a Swiftie?

SPEAKER_02:

I'm not.

SPEAKER_00:

No. Oh I wouldn't mind having her bank balance. Wouldn't mind having her bank balance.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and her jets.

SPEAKER_00:

She's a blondie, isn't she?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. No. I don't like her.

SPEAKER_00:

No, not Swedish. Not blonde enough? He's got the standards apply, it's good. Alright, so what'd you come up with? Song song or song type. What are you thinking?

SPEAKER_02:

I need to like go through my playlists.

SPEAKER_00:

But is it like a genre? You like this like rock, pop, rap? Rap. Rap. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Favourite game at the moment and why?

SPEAKER_02:

Game. I've got to go with Roblox. Oh, dude. There's so much what's it called? Diversity.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Isn't Roblox the one where you can also talk to people, can't you? Talk to them?

SPEAKER_02:

Not on console.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I think on phone and PC you can.

SPEAKER_00:

Because I've seen you and Aubrey play down together. Oh, that's clash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's clash for real.

SPEAKER_00:

So did you guys work together or play against each other? Oh, there's 2v2. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

And there's 1v1, so we all 1v1 each other sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

Well Aubrey's in the background you can probably hear, so is any good? Is Aubrey any good? They'll keep the open covered. Nice arsenal. Yeah. You guys get on really well, so that's that's good. So um do you have any good RIS lines for Swedish prawns?

SPEAKER_02:

You want my Swedish meatballs?

SPEAKER_00:

I retract the question you're on. Oh god. Um sorry I asked that one. I wasn't gonna say any others, but you want to go there. Alright. I've got four questions I finished off. You ready for this? You don't really buy one. We've done these ones before, but two things have changed. Deck is down to his last 20 bucks. What's he buying? That's only 20.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, you're homeless or yeah, you're gone.

SPEAKER_00:

You've got 20 bucks left in the book.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Just a mission. Just uh rope.

SPEAKER_00:

No, you're not. And the ladder and the Yeah, no, I'm doing that. That's not who you are. 20 bucks a month.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'm homeless. Yeah, but you've got twenty. Am I gonna live somewhere else? Depends how you spend your 20. Oh. I would invest that$20, make a million, and buy my own house. What are you investing in? Oh. Stocks, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Checking what are you gonna do with it?

SPEAKER_02:

I'll just go to the pokies and make it all.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, you just have to go to the pokies. Fed all in one, boom. Um, I don't know if I told you this one last time, but I had a guy who's into like business X40 play, and he said, I'll just get 20 bucks worth of go to Coles or Aldi and buy cola, like, and just sell them to young kids and make three dollars each one and make more and more and more. So, you know. Right, three to go. You're down to your last meal. You can't have all you can eat. Is this just like death row? See, all the negatives. Yep, let's go death row again. Homeless death row. You come to the cell and going, Equal, tomorrow. Do I have a$20 budget? No, you can have whatever you want. But you can't have all you can eat because there's still a time frame on when you have to get executed.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I'd probably go like nice tomahawk steak.

SPEAKER_00:

Hmm. What are you having with that? Mushroom sauce?

SPEAKER_02:

Hate mushrooms.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you? Yeah. Gravy? Gravy, yeah. Gravy man, yeah. What else are you gonna have with it? Or just gonna just have meat?

SPEAKER_02:

Like five of those on a massive plane, I'll just mushroom.

SPEAKER_00:

That just sounds good, alright.

SPEAKER_02:

Um two to go. Or medium rare too.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna I was it's like medium rare.

SPEAKER_02:

I I'm a medium rare. My mum used to cook 'em like well done and well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

See, there must be a an apparent thing. Like my parents do the state, and you'd like cut like cardboard. I think because mum always wanted things cooked like that. Or she had to her onions burn. So everything has to be like cooked as in cooked. Uh. Okay. Alright, soaked man. Alright, two to go. Is there any good jokes or quotes that you'd like to share that you know? Offhand? No. No? No inspirational quotes? No inspirational quotes, you know. Jokes, I don't know. I'll call it a few jokes for him. Okay. Last one I want to finish off with, because I love hearing this one, is again, it's gonna be pretty negative again, but you're stuck on a desert island.

SPEAKER_02:

This is the same question.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. You're stuck on desert island. You can take three people, no family members allowed. Can beat anyone, past or present, famous or non-famous. Who are you taking and you have to explain why? Are those three people?

SPEAKER_02:

Supermodel, chef. And survivalists, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Supermodel- Why and a said model? I don't know. Just stare at the straight and three pieces of saying you know the answer to that. Alright. Chef.

SPEAKER_02:

And uh survival specialist.

SPEAKER_00:

Ah, bear grills or something. Girl. Cool. All a man needs. That's all well. It sounds like a pretty good um well-balanced thing for a male, isn't it? Alright, mate, is there anything on the podcast I haven't spoken about that you want to be talking about or share? No. No. Alright, we've done really well. Over half an hour. Um looking forward to seeing faces. I'll send it to Mum too. And um anything else you want to shout out to Aubrey while he's on the couch over there before you annoy him. No, sounds safe. All right, mate. Well, thanks for coming on the podcast.