From Vandalised Toilets To Virtual Classrooms: Yup, Coke Still Wins

What if the fix for a “bad school fit” isn’t tougher rules, but a better environment? We sit down with Shaun, a 15-year-old gamer and history diehard, to map the messy, honest path from a massive high school that felt unsafe and pointless to a distance education model that actually works. He’s blunt about what pushed him out—vandalism, everyday sexism and racism, and the grind of too many subjects at once—and clear on what brought him back to learning: fewer classes, five-week rotations, and space to move with ADHD without getting punished for it.

The heart of the chat is simple and powerful: good teachers stay calm, offer grace, and make rules serve learning, not the other way around. Shaun talks openly about ADHD and autism, naming a reality many neurodivergent students live with—hyperfocus on passion projects and friction with “easy” tasks that lack meaning. That lens reframes the whole school debate. When interest leads, attention follows. When culture is toxic, no curriculum can save it. The shift to distance education reduced noise, boosted results, and brought back a sense of safety.

And then there’s joy. Shaun lights up describing WWII naval history, War Thunder lore, and a family-funded museum pilgrimage across the US: USS Iowa, USS Hornet, and a private walk-through on the USS Midway with a veteran who served on board. He dreams forward to HMS Belfast in London, the Missouri in Hawaii, and the UK’s Tank Museum, where engines roar and history moves. Along the way we talk small-life texture—Coke over everything, go-karts that punch to 50 km/h, the cost of care, and parents who show up.

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Transcript

Meet Sean And Set The Mood

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Well, welcome to another edition of Beyond the Plan. I have got a very special guest, first time podcaster with me. Sean, how are you?

unknown 0:22

Good.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

Mate, let's talk about yourself because people can't see you. I can see you across the desk here. Thanks for joining us, number one. Um, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions here on the podcast. And the first one is if I said to you out of five, five being the best, one being the worst, how are you feeling right now?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Five.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Oh, you're up, you're up there. Why is that? Well, you up there for a five.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Haven't done a podcast before and I'd like to.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

Yeah, good, mate. I've been looking forward to getting you on the show for for since I've met you last weekend, so it's awesome. Um, give me something that you're really grateful for. What are you really thankful for in your life?

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Parents.

Gratitude And A Quick Self‑Portrait

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Parents? Yeah, good supportive parents. Yeah. Yeah, nice. All right. Well, let's go a little bit about you. Tell me, um, I'm gonna put you on the spot now. I'm gonna ask you a really tough question that some people struggle with straight up, right? Here we go. We're gonna give you an initiation. Um in 30 seconds or less, give us a summary of who Sean is.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Uh that is a tough question, isn't it? Um I'm a person that lots of like a lot I'm a gamer, I like lots of history and World War II stuff. Um hate school.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Most people.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

There's a lot of people who don't like school, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yep. Um I'm a Twitch streamer, so if any of you watch this and you're from uh a Discord server with a person named Ozzy Typan, that's me. Um and so on.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Yeah, nice. Age?

SPEAKER_01 1:44

15.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

And almost 16.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Almost 16 in like four or five months.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

What are you looking forward to about being 16?

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Getting my Twitter back. Yes. Yeah. Stupid Australian social media bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

No, well, that's everyone's got their opinion. So, all right, that's that was actually really well done. You're gonna nail this by the sound of it. You might be taking over me as a host. This is good.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Am I? Oh my god, why not?

Primary School: Friends, A Kind Principal

SPEAKER_03 2:05

All right, so tell me what you're out of five, you're five out of five, you're grateful. You tell me a bit about yourself. Um, let's go through some of the stuff you might want to talk about first, but just to get known again, tell me what was primary school like for you?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Um it was lackluster. I probably want to if you were a normal person at school, I would probably be the one you think is the dumb one.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

Okay, why is that?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Because I would because I was a little dumb back then.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

To engage with anything?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Uh no, no, not really. Um I usually sat in a corner doing my own thing. Okay. And um yeah. But I don't really care about school and primary school was good. I had a lot of good friends and a lot of good teachers. Uh I was um very good friends with the principal.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Um she retired. I do miss her. I haven't talked to her in ever.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Um and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

It's pretty good in primary school. Backluster.

High School Chaos And Disengagement

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Lackluster, okay. All right. Nice good word. What about when you went to high school? What happened, like in grades seven, eight, nine? What was shit? Okay. That's honest. All right, let's take let's go through that. Like, I don't wanna, it's not about let's interrogate Sean. Let's just find out about you. So you told me before in your 30 seconds about you, and I hate school, like that was one of the things you said as a statement. So let's get to that point in year seven, eight, nine. How was year seven? How was year eight? How's your nine?

SPEAKER_01 3:28

So I went to a school that had about two to three thousand kids in it. Okay. Um, I didn't really like it. Okay, year seven was okay because I like the teachers, and except for my ass teacher, of course. I told you about that later before. Um, friends were good. Uh one of the friends was family friends with our family.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

So we got got along pretty well. Haven't seen them in ages, so I don't know. Um, and a lot of people were a lot of sexism and racism in that school. Okay. So um, and a lot of just people that are idiots.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Um, I heard when I left, heard from one of my old friends that one person took an entire toilet out of the school.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Oh my god, just vandalised.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Stole stole a toilet. Yeah, a lot of vandalization. Like a lot of vandalism.

Switching To Distance Education

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Yeah, terrible. So that was year seven, or was that just in within the time you were there? Uh the time I was in there. Okay, yeah. And then you must have got to a certain year level and then parents just said school's not for you. Is that what happened? Or do you just like school refusal? What happened?

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Uh I just didn't like school at all. I didn't think school was very, you know, good. It was boring half the time. Yeah. And then I got into um uh what I'm in now, so distance education, yeah, distance education.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Very good. I I'm doing my work most uh more than I used to.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah, good. Well done.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Well done. And it's still boring, but I'm at home, I don't have to deal with all the sexism and racism. Yeah, and I'm still being decently social.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Yeah, great. That's awesome. Um, and so yeah in year ten now, is that right? Yes. Year ten. So how many subjects do you have to do at once? Say yeah. How many subjects do you have to do?

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Um, I think we're doing four right now. Okay. But because in Distance Ed, we we have the four terms, which is what normal school does, yeah. But um every five weeks we change. So the first five first five weeks we're doing maths, history, uh, HP, and so on. Then the next five weeks we'll do English and other stuff. Oh good. So it keeps changing. It changes, yes. But that does mean the assessments are due a lot earlier.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

Oh, before the end of that five weeks.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

So they're short, sharp, short, what have you learned? Let's move on.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Yeah, but you don't have to worry about as many subjects as you don't have to worry about as as many subjects.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

Yeah, you can do it four at a time.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

What do they do with PE? Do they get you to jump on the down on the spot? Is it more theory? Is it?

SPEAKER_01 5:48

It's more it's all theory.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

Okay, all right. And then I think Marmor, you were saying the other day too, with um Skilled and said they've now got a cell bit, a well-being one.

Rants, SEL, And Social Media Bans

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Uh yes. I think that was sort of my fault. Go on. Yeah, you I think she told you about that. Are you happy to talk about that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, it was because I ranted a lot because about the social media band and how I hated it. Yeah. And I still do. It's it's such a stupid thing.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

But yeah. Um, I don't really pay attention in it because I don't think it's very useful in my opinion. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

But why was why was the social emotional learning mainly your fault? Because you were ranting about it.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Because I was ranting a lot about the social media band, it was annoying and all that jazz. Yeah. And it was more to help with that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 6:33

Okay. Alright, good. Yeah. So so far, how long how long have you done that? Did you do all of year nine or part of year nine? When did you start? School of Disney said?

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Um, I started on year nine, on the study year nine.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

Okay. Yep. And so did you find your results were better, worse, the same?

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Uh, better.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Well done.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Yeah. So my mum said to me that it increased it majorly improved everything, pretty much.

unknown 6:58

Good.

Results Improve And New Routines

SPEAKER_03 6:58

I know that's awesome. That's awesome. And so you it must be it must be like self-fulfilling where it's it's better, but it must be also hard again now. Saturday you tend to be off school for like I'm guessing seven or eight weeks or six, seven weeks, and now you're back into it again and trying to get back into the routine. Is it hard to get back when you're online?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Yes, it's uh to be honest. Lately, very bored, just wanting to get back on the computer and doing the fun stuff that I like to do.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

Yeah, the games and that kind of stuff. Okay. So, how do you stop yourself from being distracted? Can you?

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Not really.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

No, okay. Well, it's honest.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

So um, I stand up a lot and so on. And because they you have to have your face in the camera all the time, it's annoying. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

And I get in trouble sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

Okay. Um that just say no, you're present. Is that why?

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

It's actually a ducking off or a case.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

It's more of a safety thing because if they if they think if they think you're, you know, if you've collapsed on the floor or whatever, you don't they don't know.

SPEAKER_03 7:55

So yeah, okay. Oh, accountability, of course. Yeah, of course. And do you know how many people like you are doing school business ed? Like, do you know how many groups?

SPEAKER_01 8:03

I think there's like uh right now in our school, I think there's about a two, three hundred, I think, maybe four hundred. I don't really know the exact number. I know we have probably 30 odd kids, 30 year old kids in our current class.

SPEAKER_03 8:15

Yeah. So well, that's pretty big. So more and more people are doing it.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

Which means more and more people must be like you disengage from normal school.

unknown 8:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Okay.

Distraction, Cameras, And Class Size

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Well, good on you, man. I'm proud of you for doing that, because that would be very tough to go online and doing that. So good on you. That's that's gutsy to actually keep going doing that. Um, here's a question that you might think, Gary, there's no answer for this, but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Yep. Um, was there anything that was good about school? Was there something you missed? Oh, you missed at the moment?

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Teachers, some of the really good teachers. Last year, there were some really good teachers I already missed.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Um, and also some friends. But there's some friends that I don't really miss because they're arseholes.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Okay. Now let's go a bit deeper into that because I like to kind of test out your brain power here. What makes a good teacher?

SPEAKER_01 9:02

You said you got a few good teachers, so uh a teacher that doesn't yell at you and is always supportive and you know, doesn't want to um especially doesn't want to just nick at you or not nick at you, but like, you know, pester you to you know do everything properly and do the rules. Like no one's gonna none of the uh students are always gonna follow the rules.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Like I don't follow the rules in camera safe in the camera, yeah, because I stand up a lot and I'm ADHD, so I fidget a lot and everything.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

So okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Good answer. Good answer. All right, you touched on ADHD. So what are some of the things that that's good about ADHD?

SPEAKER_01 9:42

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

There must be something.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Um, there's probably something, but I don't know what it is. No, I don't know. I don't read a lot very much on ADHD or my or autism. I just know I'm different to most people.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

All right. Have you ever been bullied with that kind of stuff?

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Um no, I don't think so. Maybe, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

Okay. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Um, I don't really get bullied at all.

What Makes A Good Teacher

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Okay. So you're talking about ADHD and autism. Is there some that help some things that you think are really positive about having autism?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Um yes and no. There's some good things and some like to me, yeah, it feels like I can do a lot of the hard stuff if it's in my interest, but any of the easy stuff I can't really do.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you when you want to lock in, you can really lock in and more than anyone. Yeah, yeah. We had a boy at one of my schools I was at, and um again, this is very unprofessional for me as a teacher. You'll like this one, Sean. Is that um you've had a few of these conversations. Another thing. Go, yeah, being honest, don't call me Sean. Oh, don't call me Sean. Just Sean. I don't like it. Okay, sorry. Um, there's a boy, um, autistic, and when he used to come to school, I had a motorbike. Oh, yeah. And had a CBR 600, I think. It was brand new. Honda sports bike.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Don't know any of the bikes, I'm not a real. You'll get you'll get it just.

ADHD, Autism, And Focus

SPEAKER_03 10:59

And I'd used to after school, he go, um, Mr. Woodford, why do you have a motorbike? And I said, Because it gets the chicks. He just started laughing. Very professional, right? Great eight, great eight, laughing, laughing. Anyway, next day I pull up. Mr. Woodford, why do you ride a motorbike? It's like on repeat groundhog day. He said, You know, Matt, because it gets the chicks. He starts laughing again. Sure enough, next day drive in, ride in, it's up. He's there again. Mr. Woodford, why do you ride a motorbike? I said, You tell me, Matt. He goes, Because it gets the chicks, and he just lost his stuff laughing the whole time. And it never did get the chicks, but it was just so he and I had this great relationship because he was into vehicles. It wasn't motorbikes, it was in the cars. Now you're into something else.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Um, what am I in?

SPEAKER_03 11:42

I know exactly what you're into. You're into war and yeah, war and stuff. Yeah. So what what can you remember? What got you into that?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Uh, I don't really know. I just all of a sudden I I liked boats, and then all of a sudden I liked weapons, and I was like, combine those together. What do you get? Navy, naval, yeah. And then I got into World War II and other stuff and tanks and uh planes and everything, and I then I got into like War Thunder, which is uh a game people know it's famous for a lot of things, a lot of bad and good things. Yeah. Um, one of them being leaking classified documents.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Oh, okay. Okay, we're okay.

Naval History, War Thunder, And Museums

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Yeah, um, I don't know again, but I've I've known uh I there's memes about it all everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

Okay. Uh yeah. Okay, got it. And that's one of your passions, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

And I see you got a little bit of merchandise there, you got some hats in that. How many hats would you have?

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Um, I think I have uh ones from HMAS Fun. So that's fun. I have Funcom with me right now. Yeah, hat. I have uh a couple challenge coins.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Um so I've been on USS Iowa, USS Hornet, uh Iowa is an Iowa class battleship, Hornet's an Excess class carrier, and I've been on Midway, which is a Midway class or super. It's one of the first successful supercarriers. How'd you get to go on those things? Um, we went to America at the start of 2025. Yep. And we went from we went to sorry, 14-hour flight from Brisbane to um uh LA, and then we took a f uh one hour flight from LA to San Francisco, stayed there for a couple nights, went on the uh Hornet, and we went to the Golden Gate Bridge and so on, and then we went to Yosemite National Park.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Amazing views. Wow. It was insane. Um, and there was snow too. Wow, yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. And then we took a couple hour drive from Yosemite to LA. Yep. We stopped in what was that place? I don't know. Um Bakersfield, I think.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Yep, went to Costco there, got some stuff from Costco. Costco's exactly the same. Is it? Yeah, the pizza, say it tastes so exactly the same. Nothing different. Um and well, except for the people. People were Americans, not Australians. Um but it was uh pretty in pretty insane experience. Um never I never had been out of country before then. Uh like the the the most I've really been out of country is in Tasmania, which is still in Australia.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Um and then from LA we went to the USS, Iowa, Disneyland, and Universal Studios, and then we went to San Diego to see the Midway and some family friends.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

We also, I think uh I had we had a family friend there, um and he served on the Midway. That's pretty cool. I think. And that's good. He was, I think, somewhere in the bridge, I think he served on, and he heard I was coming down and he gave me a private tour pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Really? Yeah. How good? How was that?

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Pretty damn good.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

So your parents gave you this opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

That's pretty good, isn't it? Pretty lucky.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

And would you go again?

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Um, probably yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Yeah, yeah.

US Trip: Iowa, Hornet, Midway

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Um, one of the things I did I was nervous to go because you hear all the stuff about Americans and how there's lots of shootings and lots of rubbers. And there was when we went to there, there was literally a like sign to say, be careful, don't don't leave your valuables in the car.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Because people will take them and break in the car.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

So there's warnings everywhere about that.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

All right. Especially in California. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

And what about you now? So you've gone, that's a massive experience your parents have given you. So that's awesome. Shout out to you parents for for doing that. Um is there something now that's not talking about your your career and you get older, but is there something something else, a short-term goal that you'd like to also experience around the Navy and guns and like is there something else that's fueling your passion? Like, oh, I can't wait, I'd love to be able to do this. Have you thought about that?

SPEAKER_01 15:45

I don't know really. No, okay. Um not really.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

No, okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Like, I don't know what you mean.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Like, what do you mean exactly? Well, you went to America and you go to experience the tanks and that kind of stuff. Is there another place you like to go and experience similar things, or is there something else um Navy related you like to do?

SPEAKER_01 16:00

I would like to go to like London and so on, because they have HMS Belfast there, and maybe going to Hawaii because they have the US Missouri there too.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Um and supposedly other places, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

How big is your bag, your travel bag? Can I fit inside it? Can I come with it? I'll go surfing while you do that.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Um I'll make peace, you make war. Oh yeah. But I mostly um I mostly want to go to Europe because I want to go to the tank museum and go see there and yeah. Yeah, great. Um, UK Tank Museum is pretty cool. They have a lot of different and sort of tanks.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

And they do one of these um things every year where they bring all their running tanks out and they go for a run and everyone watches.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Yeah. And there's some there's some really like old tanks that like worth a lot of money if they are running. Like they got a running tiger, tiger tiger H1 tank.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Oh yeah. Yep. It's a wealth of knowledge. I'm actually learning so much from you today. Um you're more interested in my history teacher when I was at high school.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

If you want to know something, the the Australian uh tank museum up in Townsville has a working Panther tank. Okay. That's a work there's only 14 of them in the 16 of them in the world, yeah. Working ones, and they're worth about 14 million pounds, not Australian ones.

Safety Fears, Highlights, And Future Trips

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Oh wow. So it times that by like 2.5 or something.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Yeah, that's like 25 million dollars. Okay. Million Australian dollars.

SPEAKER_03 17:28

This is a serious question. If you went to a museum that had all this war stuff and there's tanks there, when you walked out, could you say thanks very much for having me, or would that be too much of a bad dad joke? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

I don't think I'd I don't think I'd uh think of that to be honest.

SPEAKER_03 17:41

It's a very bad dad joke. All right.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

What do you call an apple that farce? What a fruity tooty.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

See, I'm not with the jokes, mate. You just calm down there. That's pretty good. That's probably better than my jokes. That's very good. The lights go off in here for some reason, but that's alright. All right, now the next question for you. Ready? Yep. Let's get to know you. I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna call this 60 seconds with Gary. Oh god. Yes, and this is what I'm gonna ask you a question, and you've got a split second to answer it. The first thing that comes in your mind.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Oh god. Yeah, it's I'm not good with that sort of stuff, but okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

That's good. It's out of your comfort zone, see? That's where everything learns. Here we go. Ready? Favorite movie?

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Greyhound.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

Favorite drink?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Coke.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Um, do you have like a favorite series show?

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Um, probably space battleship Yamato.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

Okay. Milkshakes or thick shakes?

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Chocolate thick shake.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Oh, nice. Favourite chocolate?

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Um, probably dairy milk.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Well, plain, that's good. Yeah. Plain. Favorite lolly.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Um, you know those little Coke ones?

SPEAKER_03 18:45

Yeah. It means Coca-Cola. If we're looking for a sponsor out there, we've got someone here.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Also, also, don't don't don't take the wrong way. It's not cocaine.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Yeah, it's not Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

It's Coca-Cola. Um people like this like hair coke, and they think of two things.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Coca-Cola or Coca Cake.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Okay, okay, that's it. You're right. I'm glad you clarified that. Um, thick shakes or milkshakes.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

I think we you just did that one.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Did I?

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Yeah, you did. Don't I say what's your favorite?

SPEAKER_03 19:10

What was it? Is it thick shakes or milkshakes? And you said chocolate thick shake. Yeah. What was this? But so thick shakes better than milkshakes, then. I was just saying, do you like thick shakes better or milkshake? So chocolate thick shakes.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

What was the question you just asked?

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Do you like thick shakes or milkshakes better?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Thick shakes. Yeah. Oh, and I like both. I kind of like both equal.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

I think I'll just suffer it up. I think I did ask that question before.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Very unprofessional here on the podcast today. Um, do you have a favourite song at the moment?

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Um no, I I don't have a favourite one, but I do listen to a lot of songs.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Do you have a genre of songs? Like, do you like the rap? Do you like the romantic music?

SPEAKER_01 19:45

I do know what my um it's more, I don't think it's rap or anything. I think it's like rock.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

But I don't know if it's really rock at all. Um, I don't know what what the songs I listen to are I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

Okay. Do you like horror movies?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Only uh not really. I I think there's a couple horror movies, horror movies that I do like, like one or two, but I don't know which ones those are wear again.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Okay. Do you like um if you had a spare half an hour to kill? You got 30 minutes of your own time, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Probably going with my video game.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Okay, what if you got 20 minutes to kill it and you have to go outside and do something? What would you do?

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Um play around the dog or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:22

Well, you nearly ran over me today. We didn't run over you. You're flying today, arrived. I was like, who's this guy in this go-kart flying?

SPEAKER_01 20:28

That's me.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

And I said, How fast does that then go?

SPEAKER_01 20:30

And you said 50k's an hour. 50k's only I was flying. Well, actually, it can go faster than that. Um, if you put the right, there's a uh like a cog or a gearbox thing that you can put in that it came in originally, but dad my dad changed it, it could go 70k an hour.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

But the difference is the 70k's an hour takes longer to get up to speed. Uh while the 50k one, it gets it goes into quick.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Yeah, yeah. And I actually was pretty fast off the mark when you turn around straight past me.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

I think you got me, I think it passed me twice by the time we could come up to your driveway.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah, you did.

Family Support And House Plans

SPEAKER_03 21:01

So yeah. Um, I'm very competitive, but I wasn't gonna race you in that thing. You beat me up my way on the paradox anyway. That wouldn't look very professional either. Rock it up for the first time to see your parents and flying over the front. Uh sorry, we just had a little banty here. Um give me something. We'll go a bit deep and meaningful. What's something really good about your family? What's something you really love about them?

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Um a lot of things. There's a lot of things to be honest. Um, the fact is that that they care about me a lot and they get me stuff and they put fit food on the table.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Just trying to look after them.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Um like there's a lot of people and a lot of families that don't get sort of that sort of stuff. So I'm very lucky to get in a family that has the they're not rich, but they're not like poor. Yeah, they have enough, we have enough money to put food on the table and get the necessary stuff we need.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Yeah. And I've only met your I've probably met your dad twice, met mum once or twice now, but I just realize that we also we also have enough money to like have some fun stuff.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Yeah, but we don't have an we don't have like lots of money.

SPEAKER_02 21:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

We're we're now having to start saving because we're getting we're building a new house because the house that we currently live in is was built in the 1960s.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

So very old and we need to we need to get a new house because it it's not and there's not enough room in that house.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well I love about your family when I was there the other day is that anything was lovely for them to trust me and all have to come over there really early because I only seen dad once then.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Um within a few days, we're gonna have to like you will get you have we'll you'll become good friends to my dad.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Yeah, can we get along alright?

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Yes. Uh my dad can make some good friends.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Yeah. Well, we just felt really welcome, which is awesome. But what I did notice was when mum and dad were talking about you a fair bit and that and you were there, you could just tell the amount of investment they've got in your zone, not money-wise, but care care wise. And I really love that. You could just see you could feel they really cared about you, and you guys all cared for each other, so it's lovely.

Health Hurdles And Painful Moments

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Um, we I've actually uh they've I I don't know how much money they've put into my care and everything. Thousands, thousands of dollars they've put into like start um getting me into school stuff, and because of my because of me struggling in school, they use a lot of the money and support workers and tutors and stuff. Um and also like insurance, med uh medical insurance and everything. Yeah. Um, I've had surgery twice.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah, what?

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Both on ingrown toenails. Oh yeah. Um uh every time and I'm getting another one, which is annoying, which means I probably am gonna get a third surgery. Yeah, because it's a bit disgusting to talk about, but I get ingrown toenails a lot from my dad, and they're very painful. And I've had um when I went in the shower once, a big soap bottle dropped it on the on the on my ingrown toenail.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

Ow.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

From like desk height.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

I screamed so loud that it was.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

Your language out of your mouth would have been, ow, that really hurt. I won't do that again.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

No, I screamed, I screamed.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Oh, it would be, it'd be painful.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Um, and my parents thought I like I got bit by something or I don't know, and they like ran up. It's like, what happened?

Last Meal, Desert Island, Twenty Dollars

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Yeah. That would be painful. All right. Oh, yeah. Well, look, to finish off, I've got to ask you these three very important questions that I ask everybody on the podcast in their first time. And here's the first one. Are you ready for it? Yep. You're on death row, you've been being caught by the other opposition in um navy battle, and you're getting interrogated. Um, you're going to go to death row, unfortunately, Sean. And they said to you, Sean, you've got one more meal to have. What are you having? Your last meal. What is it?

unknown 24:42

Coke. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Okay. What do you have with your Coca-Cola? Yep, yep, yep. What else? What food do you have with it? What's your go-to? Do you have a go-to food be like, I'm having this?

SPEAKER_01 24:53

I don't know. Homemade pizza, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

Oh, good. Nice. That's good. I like the answer. All right, ready? Next one. You're stuck on a deserted island.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

You're allowed to take three people with you. Not necessarily your family members. It can be any three in the whole world. Yep. Previous living, sorry, past living, present living, rec rock stars, whoever you want. Three people. Who are they?

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Um probably some of my favorite YouTubers, uh, Brian Herrera, maybe the fat electrician. And uh maybe a friend of mine, I don't know. Okay, nice friend? Another streamer that I uh I know a guy called uh the Dark Figure. He's another streamer that I know. He's also my admin on my Discord server.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Maybe I take him.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Okay. Good conversations out there. Because you probably have no internet on the on the island, so we chat.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Alright. Last question. Sean's down to his last$20. What's he buying? Coca-Cola?

First‑Timer Reflections And Close

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Is the same. Everybody answers Coca-Cola. I was gonna say, buy a couple bottles of Coke. Yeah. Yeah. Two-liter bottles of Coca-Cola, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Yeah, that's funny. You know what I did? Actually, you remind me of one of the guys I've got in here before, Webby, um, and used to work with him in Rockhampton. And he said, I said, You Danny last$20, what are you gonna do? He goes, That's easy, Woody. I said, What are you gonna do? He goes, I'm gonna buy cans of Coke from Coles, all hot, and I'm gonna sell them for four times the price. Or buy them for 50 cents for selling for two dollars. Then I'll have more money. Then I'll have more money, I'll keep doing the same thing. He said, I'll eventually be okay. I went, pretty good. So Coca-Cola was the same line. Mate, we're about to wrap up. Is there well done your first podcast? 26 minutes and 35 seconds. You've absolutely nailed it. You're a natural. Um, is there anything else on the podcast you'd like to speak about that we haven't spoken about yet?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Not particularly. I'm very excited for doing more of these. I think. Especially with other people. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

Yeah, great. Well, I think you've done a great job. Welcome to the show. You've done a great job, and I'm looking forward to um catching up with you some more information after we get off.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

I'm very inside, I'm very excited and getting and playing with uh doing stuff with you guys.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Awesome, mate. Thanks for coming on.