gwunspoken - Beyond the Plan

From Meh To Momentum

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Ever had a day that starts at meh and somehow ends with a plan you can’t wait to try? That’s where we land as we check in after a tough family week and channel that restlessness into action you can feel: a smarter studio layout, a cheap city adventure, and a fresh run at outdoor gel blasting that brings fitness, safety, and strategy together.

We start by tearing down and rebuilding the studio on paper. Round table over rectangles for easier eye-lines. Curtains to kill reflections and backlight. Proper key, fill, and hair light instead of leaning on RGB strips to do a job they can’t. We map camera placement, talk gimbals for test shoots, and set a simple plan: walk IKEA, pick the table, film a short segment, and dial in the lighting until skin looks real and shadows behave. Clean, repeatable, and ready for guests.

Then we step outside. Gel blasting gets a full, honest look: why outdoor fields like Donnybrook and Mango Hill hurt less and demand more cardio, how rental kits help you try before you buy, and what to expect from an M4-style starter rifle versus a gas pistol with pricier consumables. We cover Queensland rules, safe transport, non-negotiable eye protection, and the reality that gel accuracy won’t match airsoft—so scopes help you spot streams rather than land pinpoint shots. Mixed in are money smarts that cross over everywhere: splitting pay between savings and upgrades, buying once and right, and resisting expensive dead-ends.

School comes up too, raw and real. When lessons feel irrelevant or the teacher bond is thin, we offer a simple three-part tactic to still move forward: one new thing learned, one known thing confirmed, one interesting thing noticed. Pair that with stories of teachers who keep standards high and spirits light, and the grind gets meaning. We round it out with a cheap-train idea to the Queensland Maritime Museum and the HMAS Diamantina, because history sticks best when you can walk its decks.

Hit play for practical studio design, outdoor skirmish strategy, budgeting that works, and a mindset you can use the next time life feels flat. If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a mate, and leave a quick review—what small change will you make this week?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, welcome to another edition of Beyond the Plan. I've got my mate Sean back. How are you, mate? Good. How you feeling today?

SPEAKER_00:

Eh.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like that emoji movie, meh.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You had a bit of happiness.

SPEAKER_00:

I like that all the time. Meh, meh. I always Yeah. Mum's uh my mum, her the word she hears she she hears me the most say when like how am I how am I? It's meh.

SPEAKER_01:

Meh.

SPEAKER_00:

Meh.

SPEAKER_01:

Could you say that's um stereotypically a teenage thing?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's average, average. Meh meh.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's funny. Um, because you've had a bit of happening this week, haven't you? Like a few tragedies in the home life with you know some funerals, unfortunately, and things. So you've been a bit of a tough week. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We all have for my parents, to be honest. Um I only really knew one of the people that passed away, and I didn't really know them very well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So thoughts out to your family and also the loved ones for that. It's always a tough time for those who are close. But um, you're here, mate. I'm glad you're here. I was looking forward to seeing you today.

SPEAKER_00:

Same.

SPEAKER_01:

It was very hot, and I thought, geez, I wonder if he's melting out there. Because I was I was actually finished a bit earlier than I thought because I said to Mum, probably around five, and I was finished at 2.30. I said, Hey, I'm ready if Sean is, but she said, Oh, I'm up the coast. I went, Oh, that's right, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, but we had the air conditioning on the whole time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we're lucky here to have that, aren't we? Yeah, so no go-kart at the moment, because too hot outside.

SPEAKER_00:

Too no, no, no, no, no. I can get it out if it's if it's hot. Um, it it actually feels nice getting on the go-kart when it's hot, uh, because you get the wind on your face and everything. Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, it's not so good for the go-kart because it overheats.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. Well, especially the speed you go, mate.

SPEAKER_00:

You're 50k an hour is pretty fast, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know how much uh I don't know how much it costs to get fuel for the thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Couple it's 20-ish, maybe 20, 30 bucks, I think. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

And it must be pretty grateful about that. Like you we're talking about some of the photos you got outside of where you went to America and you've got that. Like, you're folks have and they're taking this on good experiences. We talked about this last time, but you're lucky, aren't you? Like it's good they look after that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's good. Shout out to your mum and dad if you're listening to this episode when you get to listen to it. Um now tell me about you're talking about designing my podcast studio. We just talked about that off air a bit. I'll tell I'll tell from my perspective what happened, and you tell me from your perspective. We're being this is called unspoken. We talk about things we probably should talk about, but we don't. So there's no holes barred here, right? So I remember saying to my wife, Ray, saying, Oh, Sean's into technology and he wants to come look at the podcast studio. So, is it um no? The girls will be here, that's cool. She says, Yeah, invite him over for sure. He can have a look. I said, Yeah, I'd love his feedback. And I'm thinking, it's pretty messy at the moment, but I reckon you'll love the backdrop in the wall thing. And I walked in and I just saw your face drop as if to say, No, this is wrong. This is not right.

SPEAKER_00:

So I could imagine something a lot better.

SPEAKER_01:

I was like, I could improve this.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it.

SPEAKER_01:

So tell us, tell us what you would do to improve the podcast studio.

SPEAKER_00:

First, like I said, circle table. Um get especially when you decide to put a camera in, yep. Um, you know, put it at a particular spot where there's no windows and put everyone facing uh where the camera is facing them where there's a wall, not a window. Yep, okay. So lightings, and also use get put curtains and everything on both the doors and the windows, yeah, and proper lighting. Proper lighting, lightning, uh lighting is a big factor. Okay. You have to be um precise with that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Now you're talking about some kind of LED lighting you've got.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So um I think I showed you a picture, my under my bed, because it's a loft bed and I've got my computer under my bed. If you look at the top of the bed, there's these LED lights.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I can control them. I can do a lot of stuff. So if I hang on.

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

So he's got his phone out with the app, you've got an app there to control it.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I can't actually show you all the because I have to um connect the the lights to my phone to like show the modes and everything. Yeah. But I can do all these sort of different modes, rainbow, um uh everything. There's so many I can't even think about. But yeah, you can beat, you can make them beat to music. So you can connect them, you can connect them to your computer or whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And when you're playing music, you can put it pr press a button or setting, yeah, and it'll beat the music that's being played in your computer or whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

So what you're saying is when all the kids go to bed and my wife goes to bed, I can sneak in there, make a big beat, and just pretend I'm bopping out to a nightclub in my middle thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

That would not be a pretty sight. I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00:

But I think they are pretty expensive. Oh they are? Yeah. Okay. Um, but like making a studio is gonna be expensive anyway. So like, yeah, you're gonna have to spend a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I reckon I reckon next time we have a session together, we might go for a bit of a shop and you can help me dream build, because dream building is really important.

SPEAKER_00:

I'd be f I'd be happy to do that. I need to go do some stuff to my room. I need to clean my room. My room's a bit of a mess at the moment. Yeah, it might not seem a bit of a mess to some people, it might seem pretty clean to some other people, but in my opinion, I like I like a clean room, so I like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I actually tied mine this morning if you impress with me now, but I haven't got the round table. Um, but I do have, remember, I do have that gimbal that has camera. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it doesn't have the headphones, but it does have a little mic. And we can try one of those to see if the lighting works well in there, and then you can give me some more feedback about oi, this is what I think we need. And let's we can we can pump up the video podcast. Yeah, yeah. Sound alright?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that would be that yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, so we'll go to IKEA, go table shopping. You you pay. I'll pick tonight. How about for that for a deal? I'll pick, you pay.

SPEAKER_00:

As long as you give me the money and I'll pay for it.

SPEAKER_01:

Ah, cheeky. Very clever, very clever.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't have much money. I told you, I only had like what, 130 bucks.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but I love how you you got a little you got a little bit of uh you like keeping money in there too, a certain amount, too. I like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I need to get a job, but that's one thing I need help with. Um trying to find a job to get.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, what would that look like?

SPEAKER_00:

Does it matter what kind of job or do you um I don't want to particularly work at a first um a takeaway shop person, like a a fast food. I want to work somewhere like Woolworths Coles or something like that.

SPEAKER_01:

All right.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, at a shop, not a takeaway place.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, so my daughter's working at Kohl's. One of them's working at like the Fen Friendly Grocer. I might just say, What do you do? Show us your regime and stuff, and we might be able to modify one for you and we can see how we go. Yeah. What about mum and dad? Are they happy for you to get a job?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they will they're wanting me to get a job, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Well, that's maybe some of the goals we can go through. All right. Sounds good. Um now tell me, we I talked a bit about connection to country today, about um potentially having a bit of a group session.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Saturday week. Um, you came up with some ideas, and I like that. Like you you sort of thought of ideas I didn't think of, which is sort of out of the box, because I like to do things that are sort of outside, out about something different.

SPEAKER_00:

And you're saying uh the Queensland Maritime Museum, which uh is it's a big historical um place. It holds the H the ship that's there is the HMAS Diamantina. It was a river class frigate during World War II, and it's the last representative of the river class frigates. River class frigate uh the river class frigates were um famous because they were one of the contributing factors to defeating all the U-boats during World War II and the Atlantic. Okay. Um Diamantina didn't particularly do that in the Atlantic, they were it was in the Pacific Theatre, but it did have a role in I think one of the last like landings. Yeah, uh the captain on all the captain of the Japanese of that like force that was on um that island surrendered on HMS Diamantina.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, wow. Good memory. Yeah, that's amazing. Um, so maybe that's something we do, and my stepson deck would say you should do that because it's only a 50 cent train ride into the city. You guys get all catch a train 50 cents each way.

SPEAKER_00:

And you get to pretty much explore most of the ship too.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Um now I'm putting you on the spot now, I haven't really given you much time to think about this, but can you think of anything else that you would like to do, like activity-wise, if we did put something like that together? Gelblasting. Well, that's yes. Well, you've got me. I'd love to shoot you. I'm supposed to be your friend. What's going on here? Um I love it. Talk about because people don't know we've done this this afternoon, but talk about where we went first because we're so racing to get there in time, but I'll I'll let you go. What'd we do?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm planning on getting back into gel blasting. I used to be into gel blasting, so I started gel blasting in 2023. I did a lot of that during 2023 and 2024.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And then I dropped out sort of in 2025. I haven't gelblasted in a while. I want to get back in now, but I want to do mostly outdoor fields. So Donnybrook. Donnybrook jail balls, gel ballers, amazing. They have a 50-acre property that they use, they do gel balling and everything on. It's amazing. Um, and it's yeah, they do events every so often.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. And asking now, put you on the spot again. What made you drop out? What made you want to go back again?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, what made me drop out? Probably uh the you get sweaty a lot and it's tiring, and uh yes, it gets it sort of hurts when you get shot.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And um it's just that it it's a very expensive hobby.

SPEAKER_01:

Is it?

SPEAKER_00:

Especially for getting gun your guns and everything. Like my gun, brand new, it costs three four hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah, and it's it's it is a good gun. So this uh the double bell M4, which is what I have. Um, it's a very good starter gun. So if for any starters, get that gun. It's amazing, especially if you put it with the right battery, it can chuck a ton of crap out.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So um really high fire rate, uh, full auto, um, and it's it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Um, and so now what's what brought you back after a couple of years now going? Actually, I think I'm gonna go back.

SPEAKER_00:

What um me trying to get a job, which means once I get a job, I'm gonna start getting more money. I can do that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And already hanging a bit of money in my account and just me watching people play airsoft. Yeah, okay. Like, it's a bit annoying that the Australian government doesn't allow airsofters or airsoft, which is gel blasters are like the Australian version of the airsoft. Airsoft is all the American Europeans sort of thing.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

What's the difference in the what's the difference?

SPEAKER_00:

So um airsoft, you shoot BBs. So solid BBs, yeah, and gel ball gel blasters shoot gel balls which um explode on impact.

SPEAKER_01:

Which is the most painful?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh probably BBs. Were they? Yep, because they're solid.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. Um, especially metal BBs. There's metal BBs. Okay. And they can piss skin, I think, sometimes. Oh gosh. At the right velocity and right range, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. What's the you were telling me before, what's the law about whether you're gonna have a gel blaster in Australia?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so uh in South Australia, you need a gun license to own a um gel blaster and any other except for Queensland and South Australia, it's completely illegal. They are completely banned. Um, so but in Queensland, we're luckied enough that we don't need a license to own them. We still have strict rules, but you cannot transport a gel blaster out of a case and it has to be in the trunk of the car.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

So will Queensland follow suit, do you think, Willie? Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

There's been a couple sort of things about saying they were gonna ban at the end of last year. That's also another factor why I dropped out, because they're thinking of banning them at the end of 2025.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Or heard a rumour about that.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you know what uh typical cost, say when to Donnie Brooke tomorrow and said, Let's go, what it would cost to go there?

SPEAKER_00:

Um I don't particularly I don't know the prices, maybe uh for a group of uh I can go check later, but that's right.

SPEAKER_01:

We'll check into it. Yeah. Um if I was in playing Jail Blaster with you and you were chasing me to shoot me, and I put my hands up and said, Don't, don't, I'm scared, don't shoot me, would you still shoot me?

SPEAKER_00:

Um probably there's also the bang. I don't know if it's no mercy rule thing, but there I don't know if it's in jail boars, I think it is, but there's a thing called the bang bang rule. So if you're too close to someone, uh you can say bang bang and that'll just get them out.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

You see that on Airsoft. I don't know about jail bosses, maybe.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But uh yeah, I think I've I think I've been bang banged once.

SPEAKER_01:

If I went there again and competed against you, but I wore a Superman outfit, would that's would that help me any I'm trying to figure out a way.

SPEAKER_00:

If you want to get a little bit um, if you want to sort of re reduce the pain, get a vest or helmet or something.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00:

That'll protect that'll get a little less of the pain.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Like it will it'll reduce it'll reduce the pain by a lot, but that's only if you get shot in those areas. If you get shot in the arm or the leg, it's still gonna hurt because you know the skin there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you do you have to wear goggles?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, that is a big thing. In all gel blaster fields, it is a legal requirement to wear um safety. If you get if you do not wear safety glasses the whole period of time, you'll get kicked out.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And possibly banned too.

SPEAKER_01:

So this evening when I go home and I say to my wife, I need a gel blaster because I'm an immature man who wants to fight a 15-year-old out in the battlefields. What's my first kind of gun I should get?

SPEAKER_00:

Um What's the entry level but so like I said, the double bell M4, pretty damn good. Um, there's a get an M4, AKO M4. I was trusting M4, they're much more better. Uh a lot of stuff. Possibly get if you really want to get a pistol, but it's gonna cost you a lot more money in the long run because of gas. Gas is very expensive, it's like 20, 30 bucks a can.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. What about um do some of them have like rapid fire and some of them have just single fire? Like a pistols or just yeah, so say your gun. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

How many times can you shoot and so you have a safe, which is you know, you don't shoot at all. Yeah, semi, which is every time you fire the trigger, one bullet comes out, and full auto, which is you hold the trigger and it goes brut.

SPEAKER_01:

And they're all coming out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So how many can yours hold?

SPEAKER_00:

So I think I have two magazines. I have a normal staying mag, which I have two of. They hold maybe a hundred odd rounds.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Or I have my double drum mag, which I think I need to repair. That's like a$60 mag, it holds$850.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. Yeah. And is your can yours go automatic?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. That's that's a set for auto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So hang on, so hang I I can't see the fairness here. So if I actually bought a pistol, it can hold like six to eight bullets. I'm cool.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so uh there with pistols, you can get um mods where you can get uh extended magazines and or some um pistols have drum mags. Um or there's a special thing where you can uh connect one to a gel blaster, yeah. Um, and then uh you can it's like a little connector where you can connect normal rifle mags to the pistol.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Because guess that wouldn't be fair if I just had like a six-shooter and you got like 200 gun at me at once. And I was like, load, load, load, brrrrr.

SPEAKER_00:

I'd be caught. I'll be gone. It's pretty fun when you get to know how they work and everything. Um, one of the ones I want, one of the guns I do want, there's these two guns I particularly want. I want uh a style org, which is what we use in the Australian uh we use a modified version of the style org. Okay. Um, we call it the Strayer Org, I think. I don't know. Um Australia. Um uh and it's a very unique we we it's our main rifle uh for the Defense Force. Um Navy, Air Force, Army uses it, yeah. Uh our special forces use uh the M4s, but I think M4s and Styres. But yeah, I'd like a gel blaster styre, um especially the A1 variants, which are the old 1980s sort of ones, sort of 1990s. And I'd also like a Russian PKM.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. What's that look like?

SPEAKER_00:

That is a light machine gun.

SPEAKER_01:

What are you smiling for?

SPEAKER_00:

It's very expensive, that's why it's a$1,500 gun.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it's full metal, holds 3,800 rounds. It's my drum mag.

SPEAKER_01:

How can you lose? You can just put yourself in a corner and just open it.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's very heavy and like weights eight kilos or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, wow. Yeah. It's fully metal with uh real wood and everything. And yeah, it's like this big.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So you you're being 15 now, think about take taking it up now after a couple years being off. Does it in the back of your mind are you worried about the fear of getting hit or anything like that?

SPEAKER_00:

Um not really. Um I want to get a vest and a helmet, possibly. They cost a little bit of money, but yeah. Um, but I'm not too worried, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01:

And you said it's outside, so would it be fair to say that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Being outside, it's probably gonna be less painful because you're being shot at from a slightly longer distance, which means it's gonna be slow down before it hits you and it's gonna hurt less.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

If you don't want to get hurt too much, don't go to indoor fields.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it's a much closer range, and if you get hit, it's gonna hurt.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, okay. So and so would it be fair to say if you go, say the Donnybrook wine that's outside and you say it's hot and that would that be good for your fitness? Like, do you do a lot of running around?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, uh, very good fit for your fitness. Uh definitely makes you sweat a lot, yeah, especially in the heat, um everything. There's actually a gel uh an um outdoor gel ball field uh in Mango Hill.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, just out there. It's called Mango Hill Skirmish.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Can you go there, say Donnie Brook and say, look, I'm just I don't know if it's for me, but I'm happy to hire out a gun and that. Can you go in for a few years?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, you can hire a gun, but it'll cost you money. I think it's like$50 to hire a gun and um unlimited ammunition.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Okay. And then how long does it go for?

SPEAKER_00:

If I went down there, um so uh on the event days that I'm planning on going uh are from 9 a.m. to five or four p.m.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You're not playing the whole time, are you?

SPEAKER_00:

No, yeah. So there's no breaks. So in that in that in that event, there's no breaks. It's a full on, it's uh full-out war, pretty much.

SPEAKER_01:

Can it be a spectator sport? Like could I can I watch you go in there or wouldn't I say much?

SPEAKER_00:

Not really, I don't think so, no.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Alright. There must be people who just like get in it, like dress up as snipers and like full on, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, there's gillies. Is it? Yeah, people that just dress up as gillies and hide in the trees with uh snipers, yeah. It's that's a thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, wow, that's cool. Would you ever do that?

SPEAKER_00:

I want to do that, but uh it's cost a lot of money because you need a you need a uh decently good gun, a bolt action, or like a s a DMR or something.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that'd be interesting. Imagine having a connected country there. We come back and how was it? Yeah, greatness welts all over everybody and bruises. It was great, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. That that's the thing you need to do. Uh so airsoft is a lot better because that's another thing about airsoft is airsoft is much more accurate.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So gel ballers are a lot less accurate than that. So that's another thing where I'm disappointed because I could be shooting. That's another thing about snipers. It's not very practical to have a sniper rifle in gel balling because it's not accurate. If I was if it was airsofters, I'd be happy to get uh an airsoft sniper rifle because they're more accurate. They're extreme at the right um at the right uh setting setting or um configuration, they're deadly accurate. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Alright. And you did mention before Mango Hill Skirmish. Have you done skirmish before the paintball?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh Mango Hill Skirmish, not paintball.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Oh, it's no, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't do paint, I haven't done paintball. My dad did paintball, he doesn't do it anymore because he got really big welts when he did that. That's probably more painful than gel blasting.

SPEAKER_01:

Has dad done gel blasting?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, I think so, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

You should give him the podcast see how he went.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he only did it once.

SPEAKER_01:

Did he?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Has mum done gel blasting?

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

Who'd be more accurate shot out of mum and dad?

SPEAKER_00:

Me.

SPEAKER_01:

Sit on the pants. Well done. Well done. That's awesome. And so have you talked to your parents about going back to gel blasting?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, they know that I want to get back into gelblasting.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, are they supportive of that?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yes and no. They don't want me to do what I want or buy what I want. Uh like uh dad doesn't want me to buy a scope uh because his scopes are more for accuracy. They're not for gel blasting, yes, sort of, not exactly. Um in real life, yes. But in gel blasting, scopes are more used for easier to scout and look at further distances. And another thing that does contribute to accuracy with gel blasting and um scopes, you can see where your bullets are going to land. So you can see the general area. There's like you can see a little circle of where they're gonna possibly're gonna most likely land. Yeah, and you can aim at that sort of circle.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_00:

And because uh it's a bit hard to just l see the gel balls, okay. Um, but with a scope, you can easily see the gel balls. It's a lot easier to see with the gel balls in the scope.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, right okay. But once you've shot it your bullet, it's done now, isn't it? You can't use it again.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you can't use them again.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, okay, yeah, cool. I'm just trying to catch up on what it might look like. Um, we talked about you potentially wanting to get a job.

SPEAKER_02:

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

If you potentially bought a got a job, what would what would you would you be a saver or a spender? Would you do a bit of both?

SPEAKER_00:

Um I would do a bit of both.

SPEAKER_01:

What would you buy? What would you want to save up and buy?

SPEAKER_00:

Um stream uh twitch streaming equipment, PC equipment, gel blasting equipment, and stuff like that. Yeah, okay. So I'll just put stuff on my games as too.

SPEAKER_01:

A bit of variety, that's good. Well, I I love the idea that you want to go.

SPEAKER_00:

I would possibly uh spend half and save half.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a good that's a good moral. I knew one guy who said he was in a lawn bowing business and killing it, making lots of money. He'd go, um spend 60. He said bills too, but if you can ever save 40 over compounding over time, he said you just got so much money. So if you can save 40%, he said that's a rule of thumb. And we're trying to tell our girls now they've got a part-time job, try and save 40%. Your first couple of pay packets you want to buy stuff, it's exciting. But then if you want to save up for something good, um it sounds like it's for you want, you want the good quality items, obviously, too, which is good. It's good.

SPEAKER_00:

That's another thing. Um I want to try and get a discount on like that. You know, we won't get a discount, but I was like trying to get my I wanted to get my I haven't asked them, but I wanted to ask their my parents if they could get a loan, but they I don't think so. They will.

SPEAKER_01:

What would you buy?

SPEAKER_00:

I just want that LPVO, but using 130 bucks of my own is gonna be a lot. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I love the idea that you want like you know, you told me last time on the podcast that you really love your gaming and stuff and twitching up. Like, I love that stuff, but then you also love going outside in the go-karting, you love getting out on uh the digger. No, what's it called?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh uh, we have an excavator.

SPEAKER_01:

Excavator? So it talks about thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, if you didn't hear the last couple of days, I've been on there. So on the weekend I was on there, you might have heard of me, I don't know. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And so what are you doing there?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I was uh have you ever been to the dump before?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the dump. The deck one?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so uh we were using the excavator to load up a pile of um stuff in our trailer. So uh because we have down at the bottom, down at the front gate. Um, we have a lot of work going on there. There's piles of sticks and stuff and rocks we need to get rid of, and we need and which we I had to separate all the stock uh rocks and sticks from the soil. I've done most of that. That's pretty much all done. I've loaded a couple of trailers worth. Now, this is the funny part. So we have this trailer, it's a$9,000 trailer, I think they said. It's a decent sized trailer, um, but it has a feature.

SPEAKER_01:

Go on.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it has a hydraulic. So it can lift it lifts up and dumps.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

And we had some good comments, like um, when I went for the first time, we'd I we I started dumping, and there was this other guy just next to us with another trailer they didn't dump, and he had his kids have helped him unload, and he he stood there and watched us unload all of there was like two ton like a ton worth of sticks and stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Um you helped you guys helped him out.

SPEAKER_00:

And yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That's lovely.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we didn't help them, no, we um dumped it, and then he said, I hate you, and then we were like we laughed and we dropped the trailer, hooked uh, done everything and then drove off. Yeah, okay. It was so funny. We got some good comments about it.

SPEAKER_01:

That's funny. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00:

So easy because it's so easy. Like we used to have to, you know, you know, do it uh manually and everything, yeah, but and that would take like 30 minutes. Yeah, but it's like just press a button and it's gone. It's like so easy.

SPEAKER_01:

That's so good.

SPEAKER_00:

That went that was easy.

SPEAKER_01:

So excavator, you got the dump trailer.

SPEAKER_00:

We've also got a tractor, yeah. We've got the tractor.

SPEAKER_01:

Tractor, you've got the go-kart, and now you're talking about even going gel blasting. So you're getting back, like I love how you're getting outdoors. It's so good for young men.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, it's like good for I don't want to get back to biking to only get more fit, so I'm just starting.

SPEAKER_01:

As in push bike?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, push bike. So if you've seen have you seen you so um on the weekdays, yeah, you might see me between 10 30 and 11? Yeah. No, no, ten o'clock and ten thirty and also twelve thirty and once out breaking.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, it's your break from the online learning. Yeah, you know, I've walked the dogs in the morning, mate. I don't see you at that time. I don't know why. What I wonder why that'd be I wouldn't see you between six and either at what six and what? Seven in the morning. I know where you are.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I might be no, I think I pass the app, obviously. Um but yeah, I think I wake up at seven o'clock.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Because school doesn't start until eight forty-five.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, right. Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering one day I'm gonna be walking the dogs and seeing I'll see you. Oh, somebody's here. Have one of these crazy dogs. Help me out of here.

SPEAKER_00:

Now I was here's the go-kart going up and down the road.

SPEAKER_01:

That'll tie on them out, actually. Chuck the dog.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I'm not joking. Bring that your dogs over to the yard and they'll probably chase it.

SPEAKER_01:

They will. But I've seen them chase mowers at the dog park in Clontaf, and then you're gonna see the guys get really annoyed. I'm like, okay, let's just go home.

SPEAKER_00:

Next time, when we're when we come over, we'll do IKEA shopping, then come back, bring your dogs over and we'll do it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I reckon they'll just go nuts. Yes. They'll go nuts. Oh, how's your dog going with the sore foot or whatever?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, she's okay at the moment, but we don't know. We I think we're doing a vet soon, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Because she was leaving the other day, and you said that she goes flat out, then just rests, flat out and rests.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, pretty much. She's a border collie.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That's unfortunately how our uh other dog died during mid-ish last year. Yeah. Um, he was a short-haired border collie, and unfortunately, he passed away doing what he loved, which was running. Because he was a border collie that didn't stop running, he would not stop running. He would run himself. The doctor warned warned us, or the vet warned us, that he was capable of running himself into a heart attack, and that is what he did.

SPEAKER_01:

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what happened.

SPEAKER_01:

And I didn't even knew they knew that.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought I thought they just they'd know when to they would he he would not stop running, and that's what happened. He had a heart attack and passed.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that common with that dog, or is that just uh uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe, yes. After he did pass away, because uh the um a couple months before we had a letter of puppies from Oscar and Ellie. Yeah, we had to warn all of them, especially uh our last one, which we named Red. Uh I think uh she was a big runner.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um we we had to warn her owners that that could possibly happen to her. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, right. Okay. Sad, isn't it? Yeah, but anyway, you got that puppy hope that's hope it's legs are right. Um what's your dog's name again? Uh one you got now? Ellie. Ellie, that's right, that's right. Um, all right, so we talked about a fair few things in the podcast today. I'm gonna go back to hopefully seeing you can push through this uncomfortable question, ready?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I have to give you some testing ones, mate. You just you nail the podcast, you articulate things well, you speak well, so well done. I'm being serious, you do. Um if you get a part-time job, let's say you go, yep, we're gonna give you a part-time job at Cole's or Woolies, right? What's gonna be the hardest skill, the hardest thing that you'll have to battle yourself to do? What's the hardest thing you'll have to do, Jacqueline?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, well, I don't think because what I'm looking trying to do is trolley and cleaning collection.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, sorry, I was a bit away from on the mic. But yeah, trolley and cleaning collection.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So possibly the most annoying bit about that job, in my opinion, would be cleaning them.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I'm perfectly capable and perfectly fine with pushing all of them and doing that. Cleaning might be a bit annoying. It might take a bit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Nothing else, another skills that worry you? Not really. No. What if someone uh you're about to push the trolleys in and a uh customer comes in and wants to chat to you? You'll be fine with that?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, yeah, if it's quick. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't because you have I saw you today having some general conversations in the public and the community. You speak really well. Today? Yeah, today. Even when you went to um to the gel blasting shop, you're talking to the guys for you want, you know what you want, you articulate things well, so there's no issues there. You spoke well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's good. Um I'm not gonna throw you under the bus here, but I will get asked this question. School this week out of ten, how's it been? One. Not good. Disenged? Annoying. Yeah. I was thinking of the other day because I know And and this is this is what the the proof is shown, right? And so I'm not trying to bag your school or anything, don't get me wrong, but they're saying with boys in education, so this is not a stereotype, this is general, in boys they found if the boys don't connect with their teacher, online or not, if they don't connect with them, and they don't believe what they're learning is real, because they can use it in real life.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. Zero chance of learning. I don't believe that the stuff they teach us, okay. Mass, yes, the stuff that's currently teaching us, like bills, but they're teaching us about bills and other stuff and how to read those sort of stuff. Yes, that's important. Uh I'm not sort of concentrating because it's a bit boring. Um, I should I should listen, but like the other stuff we're learning, the way we're learning World War II, I don't really like.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, like, yes, I get to talk about some sort of stuff, but I don't get to talk about particular things.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Like uh I've wrote down battles than I know um in a timeline. So I did the Battle of the River Plate, um, Leyte Golf, uh the sinking of HMAS Sydney. Um I did a memorial for that for cadets. Nice because I'm in Navy cadets. Um, I've been in Navy Cadets for three years.

SPEAKER_01:

Fridays?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, every Friday. Um, hopefully the next two weeks I'll be free to just chill. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to say is if if you don't connect with the teacher and you don't see the relevance, it's very hard for men to learn. I'm very good, guys. I've proven that. So I guess my recommendation, because I used to have um students come to me and say, Sir, I don't want to go to maths, I just hate it. We're doing algebra, it doesn't make sense, I don't like the teacher. Right? This is this is you probably think this is common, right?

SPEAKER_00:

This is this is the thing, it's always these math teachers. I don't know what's with them. Mass teachers just always like they're either okay or arseholes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, how do you build a relationship there, isn't it? Like trust.

SPEAKER_00:

And this teacher that I've got now, he's not like that, but he's like he likes to follow the rules too much. Okay. So yeah. I guess when I first kind of bad thing, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

When I got my last job at Southern, I remember I got given year seven maths, and I said, Yeah, I haven't taught maths for like 15 years. What's and I don't want and they're like, Gary, the range is from really intelligent to people who struggle. And I'm like, oh great, I'm cooked here. Like, what am I gonna do? Brand new school, knew no one, and I remember that end up being my best class because the first 20 minutes we just did connect games like with you. Come in, check what are you grateful for out of five. How do you feel? Discuss with someone um something you're really grateful for, what you did on the weekend. Um, connect someone on the board just to come down and tell me.

SPEAKER_00:

It's been an amazing shooter for me, probably.

SPEAKER_01:

It was, and you know what? Everyone just loved that class because we connected, there was no there's no top down, we're all sort of even, and so it was really nice. Yeah. I guess what I'm trying to get to you say to you is and this is my own you can take it or leave it. Um, is that when I had students come to me and say, boring, don't like the subject, can't, and don't like the teacher, and don't find relevance, I'd say you need to do three things. Yeah. The one first thing is try and just look for one thing that is new that if you didn't know, just try and look for one thing. None thing is if you did know something and they're telling you the same thing, know that you're on the right track. At least say, Okay, I know this, and he's showing me this before, she showed me this before. I get it, I'm on the right track. Or number three is what's something that's actually interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

I I completely agree with those three, to be honest. Yeah, I completely agree.

SPEAKER_01:

So if you look for something, like even if you go, oh great, I've got friggin' math. All right, this is great. I hate maths, I don't want to do it. You got a cold drink there, and you're going, okay, I'm gonna find one thing I already know, one thing that's new, one thing that's actually interesting, then maybe. And the other thing is, and this is uh uh coming from an old cliche person, is that if you can get through stuff that you don't like, it helps you in every area of your life because it's not always gonna do things you like, yeah. And you'll and you're good at that, you'll you'll push through that. And so that's the only recommendation I'd give you when they subject straight. We go, you know what, I'm learning persistence. Yeah, I'm learning how to get through because sometimes you get people who talk to you just like mate, this guy's well, this girl's boring as, but I've learned persistence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm a good guy, I'm gonna learn that. So that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00:

You always like a teacher that's very active and you know, that likes to joke around and you know life's too short not to have fun, mate. We had uh he wasn't my teacher, but I would have loved to have him as a as a as my teacher for a year six. He was amazing. Yeah, he was a bit strict, but he was funny. Yeah, he was very funny.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but that's the thing, like it's it's it's nothing what's the difference between a teacher who's strict? Why can't a be a teacher be funny but still hold a line and have boundaries, like you know? And I think as you know, as you get older, teachers usually loosen the boundaries a little more because you know you're more like adult-like and stuff too. So if you build that rapport, you'll probably even have that online, I reckon. So mate, I'm proud of you for doing that because a lot of people just drop out and you can have bad good weeks and bad weeks. Yeah. Um, but it's about moving forward, always moving forward. So well done. Mate, we've gone for ages here. We could just sit back and relax. I've just got my leg up, I'm chilled out. How long have we been going for? About 35 minutes. 35 minutes? What was the last one?

SPEAKER_00:

27?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's all right. 27, yeah. Is there um anything that we haven't spoken about that you want to speak about before we tune off?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think so. No, not really.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I'm gonna ask you one question. I'm I'm scared of the answer. Uh-huh. Is there anything you're gonna ask me before we get off?

SPEAKER_00:

Are you ready to get shot?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. You know, I've been thinking of it the whole time. When we had those um custom-made pistols, I picked them up tonight. I went, hmm. And then they go$680. Oh, take a bath.

unknown:

Take it back.

SPEAKER_01:

Here's Sean, you grab it. It was$680, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah,$680. They're really nice to be honest. I would have liked a revolver. Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_01:

Mate, I've had a ball, and again, well done. You've articulated things very well as well. You're natural on here. I think you should get your own podcast set up. But next time, I think we get together and we start doing some dream building and help me dream build a studio and then we videotape it and video record it. I can just say, shout out to Shawnee. He, you know, connect with him on Twitter.

SPEAKER_00:

Twitch.

SPEAKER_01:

Twitch. On Twitch. Yeah. When you can, 16. Um, he's the one who set me up this room, and we can do a we can show the room and go to a shout to you for doing that and help me out with that as well. All right, mate, thanks for coming on the show.