gwunspoken - Beyond the Plan
gwunspoken: Beyond the Plan
Hear the person beyond the plan.
This podcast is where NDIS participants, families, and supporters reclaim their narrative. We dive into life beyond the diagnosis, beyond the reports, and beyond the plans—exploring identity, strength, and voice.
Whether you're a parent seeking connection, a support worker craving understanding, or someone walking their own NDIS journey, this space is for you.
Because labels don’t define people—stories do.
gwunspoken - Beyond the Plan
What A Simple Walk Teaches A Growing Mind
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A windy school oval is a surprisingly good studio. We grab the mics, start walking, and catch up with Arie as he shows us around the grounds and talks through what’s new at school this year. The chat starts with the kind of details kids remember best: a favourite teacher who’s had a baby, a name you don’t forget, and how birthdays feel when you’re on the edge of a new age and a new number.
From there we get practical and playful, planning out a Connection to Country day with activities that actually work for kids: bowling, fishing, podcasting, library games, plus morning tea and lunch plans that keep everyone fuelled. We talk about the little social moments that matter, like being the reliable helper, taking turns, and showing up well with other kids. If you’re searching for parenting podcast conversations that sound like real life in Australia, this is exactly that.
Then we turn the walk into a game, throwing a baseball across the oval, dealing with the wind, measuring distance, and learning what focus looks like when your shoulder starts to feel it. Along the way we touch on wellbeing for kids and adults, including why walking outside helps clear your head, how movement supports regulation, and how simple breathing tools like box breathing can help when things feel big.
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Welcome And Walking At School
SPEAKER_00Okay, welcome to edition of Beyond the Plan. I've got my mate Ari. This is your idea. What have we done?
SPEAKER_02Um we are going for a walk.
SPEAKER_00A walk? And whereabouts are we? Because people can't see where we are. We have to tell them what we're doing.
SPEAKER_02Um we are at Unshore?
New Teacher And New Baby News
SPEAKER_00We're unsure state college where you go to school. And we haven't done these ones since probably six months, so now you've gone up to a new year level. Yeah. Now you're in year 12? No four. Oh, year four? New teacher? Yep. Oh. Let's tell everyone who we talked to the podcaster for about your last teacher in year three. Has she had a baby yet?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00Boy or girl?
SPEAKER_02Boy.
SPEAKER_00And you know his name?
SPEAKER_02Eli Williams.
SPEAKER_00Eli Williams, that's cool. So brand new baby.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Right now, where are you gonna take me today?
SPEAKER_02Probably a walk around the oval.
SPEAKER_00Let's go. Let's stay away from the classroom, let's go there. So we're gonna go past the sports hall. We've done this a walking one probably once or twice before, a long time ago. Alright, so Eli's born.
SPEAKER_02On the 31th of December.
SPEAKER_0031st of December, so right in the year. Last day of the year. Well you can't forget that birthday, can you?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00So that means he would be he turns whatever age he does on the 31st and the very next day is a brand new year.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00So he has to celebrate two times, one for his birthday and one for the next year.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's cool. Imagine that. Now when's your birthday?
SPEAKER_02Um the the 12th. Um the 2nd of August?
SPEAKER_002nd of August. That's not too far away now because today's the 8th of June. So that's less than two months. Oh. That's like eight or nine weeks away. Now when's your birthday? Does that mean you have to make me a cake?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Oh, do you get a cake made for you? Yep. Do you have a favourite birthday cake you like to get?
SPEAKER_02Um Oreo.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I've never had an Oreo birthday cake. Can you get an Oreo birthday cake? Yes. Where do you get them from?
SPEAKER_02But I know that they're they're around.
SPEAKER_00They're around.
SPEAKER_02Here.
SPEAKER_00You might have to Google to find where to get them from. Tell mum and dad what do you think? Yeah. Well, do you know last week was my eldest daughter's birthday? And she got one of those, what are they called? From Baskin Robbins. Ones with all different colours in it.
SPEAKER_02Well my brother who's turning 14. And he's in year eight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um his is in like 26 or 27 or 28 days.
SPEAKER_00So his is in July?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00So he's July, you're August?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00That's pretty close together. Well, month wise, not years wise, because he's a bit older than you, isn't he?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you're 10 this year?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00And he's 14, so he's about four years apart.
SPEAKER_02I got a gift card. I mean and I got a card from my mum that that says on the card, birthday card.
SPEAKER_00Hmm.
SPEAKER_02It's your final ye last year when I had my ninth birthday. She says it's your final year of being one digit.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well. You could do something sneaking here. What you could do?
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_00You could say, Mum or dad, I need two cakes. One for the what number one and one for the number zero. We better post this podcast with Mum and Dad go, hey,
Planning Connection To Country Day
SPEAKER_00you've now told my son he gets two cakes. You get the one and the zero. Ten. Then you run out of you get around our fingers next time, you turn eleven. So you turn ten, Oscar turns fourteen. Yep. And is it just you coming to connection to country on the weekend or is Oscar coming too?
SPEAKER_02Only me. Alright, and so it's way too expensive for her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. So connection to country? Yep. Did Mum talk you about some of the activities we're gonna do this time?
SPEAKER_02Because we already talked about it, remember?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but do you remember what they are?
SPEAKER_02Bowling.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, something different.
SPEAKER_02Um fishing? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Podcasting?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Library games?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and
Cricket Pitches And Snake Warnings
SPEAKER_02you can't go swimming.
SPEAKER_00No, we've been bowling, it was a bit cold swimming now. We've got June, it's cool. Imagine Mount Meady up there cold now. It'd be freezing. It was freezing last time it was hot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um hang on, I'm just gonna stop for a second. What are those holes in the in the oval over there?
SPEAKER_02You mean those oh those are for cricket.
SPEAKER_00Can we have a look at those? They've got little it's big patches in here. One, two, three, four, bless you. One, two, three, four, five. I can see. Five big patches.
SPEAKER_02Look what I got.
SPEAKER_00Oh, where'd you find that?
SPEAKER_02On the ground.
SPEAKER_00Um, nice throw. Sort of towards those patches. Um, I don't use cricket pitch. This is where the goals would go for soccer normally, this one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't maybe they're returfing and putting some nice turf here.
SPEAKER_02Don't go there because there there is a snake nest there.
SPEAKER_00We're down the end of the school grounds.
SPEAKER_02No, that one that one sand pit.
SPEAKER_00Is there really?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00That's no good. That's a bit scary. What kind of snake, you know?
SPEAKER_02Maybe a python.
SPEAKER_00What kind of bird's that?
SPEAKER_02Mmm.
SPEAKER_00Let's go and say hello.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, there's one more activity we didn't talk about. Oh, we'll go down to the aisle and do something. Keep the cider ball made for a little while.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then morning tea and lunch? Yep. And we're gonna do lunch the same, like have morning tea. Oh, yum.
SPEAKER_02Or if we want, we can have soup. Soup?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00That's a bit different. You like soup?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00What kind of soup do you like?
SPEAKER_02Maybe meatball.
SPEAKER_00Meatball soup? That sounds actually really good. Um, I don't know how we're gonna travel in the car with that though. Um, well, we'll get fruit and poppers and water for moine tea. Yep. And lunch with burgers, but the thing is when we do barbecue, I always need a hand from somebody. Give me a hand. Someone special in the group. Always seems to be the same person who gives me a hand. Do you know who that could be?
SPEAKER_02Me.
SPEAKER_00Ah, yes, you're a legend. You actually agree with that. And then we have to think about which um tension bottom we go to.
SPEAKER_02Can you show me how far you come from?
SPEAKER_00Alright, but don't laugh.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Which way are we going? That way?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00Okay, here you ready.
SPEAKER_01Holy! That's pretty far.
SPEAKER_00It just went up in the air high, didn't it? I love throwing a baseball. Yep. Alright, well connection country this Sunday.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00And then we've got to work out. I thought we could finish with bowling. Or reckon we finish with something different. Like I thought bowling would be good, like sport, podcasts, food, fishing, and then bowling.
Baseball Throws And Teamwork Challenge
SPEAKER_00Or we do bowling and do fishing last.
SPEAKER_02Fishing last.
SPEAKER_00Fishing last? We've got to go to the bridge again to see if we can catch those um libees. Remember, we tried doing the libees last one?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is sure Rod's still got the libee jigs on him?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Nice. We'll have to take them as well. Alright, see if we can throw it through the goals. Oh, he's gonna aim up here. Kobe close if you want it. I want you to come up here and think about how far you need to be. Oh, he's gonna run up, he's running. Throwing it. Oh, came out the back of the hand. Try again. As straight as, that's exactly how you need to go. Very accurate. Oh, he threw his shoulder off. Oh no. Imagine when you're my age, what's gonna happen there? Here we go, ready. Nice! Run run! Literally went over! Good shot. That's good. Now walk around the oval, it's actually good for your mind, you know that. Puts all positives endorphins in your brain, makes you feel good. So yeah, suckers. Yeah, so some people walk, some people jog. You like rolling bottles.
SPEAKER_02Sucker.
SPEAKER_00Oh, is that where the net goes at the back of it? Or is it the hooks are there for the net?
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00Is it? No, because it I think that's where the net things on, so if the ball goes into the net, you don't have to keep running through and get it. Hey, how many times do you reckon the board go over this fence into the people's yards here?
SPEAKER_02Like ten.
SPEAKER_00Looks like it'll be a lot, hey. So have another throw here?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so this way towards the other goal?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00Alright, bit to run up like you did.
SPEAKER_01Holy.
SPEAKER_00Not quite halfway. I think my shoulder nearly fell off, too. Well, I'd walk like this all day now, shoulder dangling down. Is that funny, is it? Yeah. Would it be funny if I picked you up today and said, hey Ari, how you going? And I was like, why are you hanging down like you're gonna pick something up? Well I can't have to pick my shoulder up. Fell off. Some people dislocate their shoulders and it comes off. Like pulls off the socket joint here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't actually fall on the ground. A lot of people who do bull riding and contact supports like footy, it happens too. We should have put little earphone things on. It's actually wickedier than I thought here, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Alright, we'll work together here. We're gonna do some teamwork. Really important in everything. Yeah, and see how many times it's gonna take us, how many throws it's gonna take us to go from one soccer goal to the other. So we've done one so far, we'll take turns about. This is your turn now, share. That's a good one. Oh that's good. That's your furthest one. That's two.
SPEAKER_02Now I'm time for you.
SPEAKER_00Alright. Here we go. Pick it up. It's a wind, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01Oh!
SPEAKER_00Did it go through? Three goes, that's pretty good. That's against the wind. I can say less going that way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I might be able to wake up in the morning with a sore shoulder tomorrow. Are we going to Ari? Are you staying with mum or dad at the moment?
SPEAKER_02Um going to dad's this week.
SPEAKER_00So basically I'm going to text Dad tomorrow morning and say, Ari's in big trouble with me. My shoulder nearly fell off and it's sore because he threw a baseball. And then you'll laugh. Is that right? Yep. Oh, I'm glad you're coming to connection country. You're always good with the other boys. You socialise well. It's really important for you. It's really important for the other boys. So you connect with each other. Careful not to hear that. Are you going to run underneath there? If you throw it from here, you might hit that thing. Well, here we go. We run up. Oh, that's good. That's furthest. That's like okay, I'm gonna count this. One, two, three, four. We're stepping out meters here. Five, six, seven, eight, forty-five. What's up? Eight.
SPEAKER_02Um nine.
SPEAKER_00Oh nine.
unknownTen.
SPEAKER_00Eleven. Fifty-five.
SPEAKER_02Oh, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three.
SPEAKER_00You just threw twenty-three meters from the soccer goal out into the other towards the other soccer goal.
SPEAKER_02Oh. No time for you.
SPEAKER_00That's huge. How'd you throw that part? That's like the further as well. Dull you did last time. Good focus. Good focus. Alright. Do we got a big one?
SPEAKER_02Always focus on the ball.
SPEAKER_00Focus on the ball. Everything's good for focus. Friendship?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00School work. Yep. By like focusing on backing the legs in the morning so I can eat them. Alright, see how far we go the wind behind us. See me at close enough for you to throw out three for the last throw. Why don't you get my shoulders pretty sore already? Here we go.
SPEAKER_02Now that's more further. Yep.
SPEAKER_00One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven, eight, nine. Count me. Eleven. Twelve. Thirty. Twenty fifteen.
SPEAKER_02Six.
SPEAKER_00Seventy, eight, nine, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two. That's how old I am. Twenty-two.
SPEAKER_02Wait, what?
SPEAKER_00No. No. No. Twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty-six, twenty-seven, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, thirty. What's Ari going to be doing when he's thirty?
SPEAKER_02Probably lay down. Three one.
SPEAKER_00Two three, three four, thirty five, three six. Fifty one, fifty two, fifty three, fifty-four, fifty-five, fifty-six. Sixty-one, sixty-two, sixty-three, sixty-four.
SPEAKER_02Sixty-five.
SPEAKER_00Sixty-five. Now here's the question. It's your throw next. Do you reckon you'll make it?
SPEAKER_01Wait, what? How long has it been?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, this one doesn't say how long this podcast's been. It only says it when you actually load it up. But it says that we are speaking well into this wireless pro from Road. No, this is not a sponsored podcast. It's getting windier here. Okay. Here's a pressure for you. Big run up. I want to see how close you get. Here we go.
Regulating Outside With Breath And Steps
SPEAKER_00Yes, go, go, go, go, go. I think we should run and get it and try it again. Yeah. I'll meet you the spot we threw it from and then we'll try again because you're only about like two or three metres from getting it through the hoop. One, two, or through the socket goals.
SPEAKER_02Four, five, six.
SPEAKER_00So I always want to get that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a bit of walking around here in nature. 12, 30, 40.
SPEAKER_00Good way to regulate is getting outside for parents, adults with a disability or not. Body produces endorphins, clears the brain. Oxygen to the brain means you feel good. We've done box breathing before, haven't we? Talked about the importance of breathing, which is really good. Okay. This is where you threw it from last time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then we landed through.
SPEAKER_00Well, what you didn't. What letter's that got on? Cheat.
SPEAKER_02Yep, ready?
SPEAKER_00Well, here we go. Aim it up. Focus. Oh, it's a big throw! It looks good! Easy! Easy through! Alright, let's count, ready? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, okay, stop, ten. Now how far did the last one go? Twenty something, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02No, sixty-one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but what did yours do?
SPEAKER_02Um twenty-five.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's ten already. Why don't this is bigger? Eleven, twelve, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seven, eight, eight, nine, twenty.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_00Oh, doggy poo-poo. Well lucky. Where'd the ball in last time? Right beside it. That's twenty! Look how far it is still. Twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty-five, twenty six, twenty-seven, ten, two nine, thirty. Thirty-one meters.
Goodbye On The Way Back
SPEAKER_00You're a machine! Thirty-one!
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We do it again?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Alright.
SPEAKER_02I try now.
SPEAKER_00No. Alright, we're gonna walk in the bottom. I've always down there. You should take me down there as well. Okay, well, say goodbye. Bye. Thanks, mate, for taking me out here.