1 - The Valley, Love Hotel, RHOA, 90 Day

Lil and Madelyn discuss their feelings on the current Bravo shows as well as 90 Day Fiancé in their debut episode!

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Welcome to Rather Be Rotting, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive dissect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always Rather Be Rotting. Our inaugural episode. Yay, congratulations to us. Yay us. The podcast nobody needed nor asked for, nor is listening to. I think we've got to start with the big question. Which is? What sets us apart? Literally nothing. Oh my god, no. So many things. Okay, what sets us apart? Our takes are more insightful. More unexpected. More, I don't know, intelligent? I mean, we are incredibly intelligent. Our takes are the right takes. Basically, yes. If you're coming for an opinion... Ours is the right one. Yeah, that's what sets us apart. I should say I'm Lil. Welcome, everyone, our two listeners. I'm Madeline. And I think we should just get right into it. I've got some breaking news for us. Sonya Morgan rushed to the hospital in an ambulance last night. For what? Video from TMZ showed her looking upset, like talking to somebody sounding upset. I did some more research. She's okay. She says she was helping an elderly patron at the restaurant and she sustained injuries that way. I have no further details. Very vague. But short story long, Sonya's a hero. Well, she always was in so many ways. It was just out of an abundance of caution. She just got checked out. Oh my god. She's back to promoting her appearances and posting beach pictures so we can all breathe a sigh of relief tonight. And yelling about how she was approached about being on Love Hotel but had a boyfriend at the time so she couldn't participate. Oh, that's what happened. Yeah. Oh, no. She's not shy about saying that. She wants you to know she would have done it. I mean, I don't think there was ever a question about that. No. No. Poor Sonia. Prayer's up. Hopefully she's okay. Prayers up to the elderly patron as well. Oh, yeah. You know, if he had Sonia on his side, you know, he could do it. How do you know it was a man? Oh, you know, that's just what I envisioned. Oh, I totally envisioned a woman. Oh, weird. Oh, well. Prayers up to them. To them. To they them. Well, we don't know if it's a they, them, either. We really just don't know. We're covering our bases. That's what's important. But I don't want to start with Love Hotel. We want to start with The Valley. Yeah, I think we should just save the best for first. Yeah. I'm actually having a hard time watching The Valley this season, honestly, because I think the Jack stuff is, like, really dark. It is pretty dark, but I can't look away. No, I certainly am not going to look away. I just... Part of me wonders if Bravo should have not... Like, I almost feel like Bravo should have just, like, said to everyone, we're not mentioning Jax one time. Like, we're not even going to talk about him because if he knew that he wasn't even going to get mentioned, perhaps he wouldn't be rage texting her in this fashion. But Bravo would be bluffing because they don't have a show without Jax. I disagree. I don't, like, I'm interested in everything else. I don't think I need him. And I don't, I certainly don't need this behavior anymore. I'm not not interested in everything else, but he's at least a quarter of the equation. Yeah, I mean, he, I guess, but I just think if he wasn't there, you wouldn't. It's like when Jen Shaw left Salt Lake, like we all thought, what are we going to do? But then it was fine. It was better, say, than it was before. Your take is the noble take, but it's the wrong take, which is against what we promised at the top. Well, I don't know. I just, I do feel, I don't know. I'm just, I'm sorry. I'm worried about Brittany's well-being as a human. Brittany's fine. I mean, I feel bad. She's, I do feel bad for her. What she's going through is horrific. But she's a strong girl and she's getting her sparkle back. Her sparkle. She is. I know she can do it. She's going to be so much better off from here on out. Well, it's not, I just think he's like, I think he's a little dangerous. Legitimately. Well, if he does something dangerous that we know of. He did. That's true. He did. He did. I think Bravo needs to take a better stance. I don't know. That's just how I feel. That's how I feel. Okay. That's your opinion. I have another hot take about the Valley. What? Jesse in a hat. I was into it. Jesse shirtless. I was into it. Like he's kind of, he's definitely an asshole, but I was like, I could see it. He's hella hot. I can see it. But, but in the talking head though, not so much. I wonder if it's just his haircut. Well, also the moment where he had his racing outfit, like hanging unbuttoned and hanging down his waist. Yeah. I mean, like I was. nothing was going to make me not team Jesse. Like there was nothing he could say in that moment. I was blinded by. Wow. Wow. I didn't realize you'd feel quite this strongly. That's in that moment. But then we get a jump scare, almost as bad as Shekinah's wig, which we will get to, but the jump scare of his headband. And then when you have the juxtaposition of him shirtless and the headband, I didn't know what to think. I was like disgusted. And I also, you know, it's, It was too much. There's been a lot of headbands lately. I know that you don't watch this, but perhaps our two listeners do. Survivor and The Amazing Race, they've been doing a lot of headband challenges, and I'm not sure why. Survivor, it's all about the buff. No, no, no. The buff is a headband. People wear the buff as a headband all the time, since the beginning of time. Correct, but it's different than that. It's not the buff. It's like... We're in the phase of... Next week is the finale of Survivor. And I definitely have thoughts on that. But it's like when they're doing the individual immunity challenges, they're color coordinated by like station. And so they get a unique headband with the corresponding color that looks very like Karate Kid. And I'm just... distracted by the amount of headbands in my life. So when one appeared upon Jesse's head, I was like, why are we seeing yet another headband? That's not the comeback I needed. That was truly shocking. Okay, so I want to go back to the beginning of the episode. Never have I ever fallen asleep with food on or near my bed, which is kind of surprising. I feel like we've seen this on TV shows before, though. Like when he said it, something about it felt very homey and familiar to me, like we've been in this place before. Like Ariana and her chicken pad thai skewer, but almost killed her dog. I don't understand how people function in that capacity. And I am not the cleanest person, but I just don't understand it. There's something else that we watched years ago, and hopefully it'll come to me at some point, but it was the same thing. People just eat in bed, I guess, especially when they're drinking. I don't know. I've been drunk a number of times, and I've never eaten in my bed like that. I have been drunk, it has to be as many times as these people, and passing out in my bed, but never with food. Honestly, that would have been helpful if I had sometimes. Yeah. I mean, so maybe, what was he even eating? It was like onion dip and chips. Yes. And I thought, damn, that looks so good right now. No, he had to put a towel on the bed because when he rolled over, he didn't want to roll into it. Into the dip, which is awful. Honestly, like, I get it. I get the process of A to B. I just, to C, I just wouldn't be me doing that, I guess. Okay, let's talk about the wine tasting. Beautiful. I made a mental note to go there. Stolen. I got to get myself some of that Happy Canyon Sauvignon Blanc. That's what they're known for. Yeah. Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't been there already. Me too. Okay, so my biggest question is, how did Dani get there so fast? Because she's calling him on the bus. And she's like, can you stop at home first before you come? That's like not a close drive from LA. And then all of a sudden he was there. Did you catch that? Yeah, I did. And I thought the same thing. I was like, he must have had the earliest call time. Of anybody. But he was, he hadn't even left LA when they were sitting on the bus. Maybe they went to more wineries that we missed. They must have because I've driven from LA to Santa Barbara numerous times in the middle of the day. In the middle of the day too, just to avoid the traffic. And it still takes me a good hour 45. Yeah. So that's, you know, one of life's great mysteries. This could be, this could be like a, this could be a bit of, producing being shown. Like, perhaps he was already en route. But it didn't fit the story. Maybe. I don't know. Do you have any other thoughts about the wine tasting? I thought Danny was not funny with his gargling and whatever. You know, I actually don't find Danny funny ever. Me neither! Only when he's drunk and, like, you know, being, you know, trashy. That's what I like. The drunk stuff is interesting. What Jasmine was saying when he was inappropriate with her and her girlfriend Melissa, I... I was surprised because he seems like a nice guy. They're obviously very religious and it's like surprising behavior that he would cross boundaries like that when he's intoxicated. It's just a little bit like, you know, drunk actions or sober thoughts. But when you're blackout drunk, I don't think those are any thoughts. Not that I'm defending him at all. But I mean, I mean, I was surprised as well. It's just, I wonder how that's going to progress, if more will come from that, or if they're going to, like, at some point in the season, try to say he has a drinking problem or something. Like, are they teeing us up for that? I feel like they might be. I think they will. Do you think that, like, that the girls had a valid argument, like, when they were all jumping on Nia about not admitting that he was drunk? I thought that was kind of dumb. Irrelevant, yeah. I'm like, why are we... It was reaching. She's like, I never said he wasn't drunk. Yeah, unclear as to why that was even being discussed. Also, you're on winery tours. Like, everybody's drunk. Yeah. And I mean, the going and drinking the secret tequila, I mean... Who amongst? Who amongst? I will say that the real... The crimes that were committed were that he missed this dinner, which looked bomb with that corn bisque, scallop bisque situation. Yeah, and... Two ways. Crispy skin. Everybody loves a secret shot. Everybody loves corn bisque. And also Nia's other real crime was saying that we don't have hall passes because we don't live in LA. And we're friends with celebrities. You're not friends with Leonardo DiCaprio. What kind of friends does your voiceover or acting husband have, really? Sheena Shea. Verbatim. Tom Sensible. These aren't celebrities. I mean, I guess maybe to them they're celebrities. Listen, when I've seen them out in the wild, I've done a double take. Who amongst? I love to see a celeb in the wild. I'll never forget when we were, we should tell our listeners that we got to attend the Daily Mail party at Schwartz and Sandy's and Schwartz looked into my eyeballs and I've never been the same. He spoke words to me and I didn't understand until he looked into my soul. That was a great experience for you. I wasn't a Vanderpump watcher at the time, which is one of my biggest regrets. Yeah. Cause James Kennedy was there. James Kennedy was there who I did used to love. I have new feelings now with the, you know, domestic violence. We are, we should say we're team Allie. We're team Allie. 100%. But at the time I love James more than anything. So I'm still trying to get a reading by the way, from Allie, uh, Of my birth chart. So if this ever finds its way to her, could you open your bookings up? Because I'll pay money for it. I was going to just ask how much. I think it would. Honestly, I think it was listed at like$250 or something. Okay, but to expedite yourself to the front of the line. I'll pay her$500. Wow. It's pretty great. I gotta say. All right, well, Allie, if you're listening, you can earn double. I don't have a whole lot of other feelings about the Valley, I think. What about Michelle and Jesse? Anything else? I mean, he's terrorizing her for sure. No, he's definitely terrorizing her. And I think he's just, he's really not taking any, because when she's in her talking head, she's like, oh, I'm just like, he's torturing me and I'm so sad about it. But when he's in his talking head, he's like, she's so cold. And it's like, do you want to take some accountability as to why she might be like, no, he doesn't. You don't think about that. Maybe you've been at fault here a little bit. No, but we want our Bravo loves to take accountability. This, you know, circles back to the Jack's thing. Like what there's a line, you know, between expecting more from them and like wanting them to, to, to tow that line. I think I, I think at some point I need to see a little growth from him. Not yet, but at some point, I

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don't want my...

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Just a little bit. Not a lot. Just a little. It's like we take two... I want two steps forward and a step back at all times. Okay, fine. I'll settle for that. And we just have to remember that Michelle will never be okay with someone threatening her. Never. Never not threatening. We can't threaten her. All right. On that note... Atlanta... Yeah, why not? What's so interesting about this is that you should tell the people how, or I guess I will, that you never watched Atlanta. This is your first of all the seasons to jump on board. This is your first time. So, like, your opinions are going to be a little skewed, I feel, because you don't have a lot of context. But I've been in the Bravo world. I know the background. I know about Hot Dog King. I know about Cynthia's weddings and, you know. You never got to experience Nene in her prime, though. I didn't. And, you know, someday I will. Yeah, you have to. It's one of my life's missions. I almost feel like you can't consider yourself a true Bravo Housewives fan if you didn't experience NeNe in her prime. I mean, okay, I won't call myself that then. It's like if you never understood Bethany's role in Roni. Oh, yeah. Okay, well, that's fair.

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But anyway, without any context of prior history, what are your thoughts on the season thus far? Well, I like it. I really do. Shamia is everything to me. Shamia was a great addition. I'm not quite sure. What was the world like without her? I feel like I'm glad I'm starting now because I don't want a world where she's just a friend of. It's crazy because when she was a friend of, I feel like she didn't make a huge impact. She was around, but it wasn't... This is a new... A new Jamia. Every outfit, every facial expression, every word. Oh, my God. She is so amazing that I don't even miss Kenya at all. Like, I don't need Kenya. I know we're bringing in Phaedra, and I'm looking forward to that. Where is Phaedra? Where is Phaedra? Where are you? Where are you? I'm not sure where Phaedra is, but I'll welcome her because I love her dearly. And her pointing out of lesbian eyebrows. But I don't need her at this moment. Like, I think we're chugging along just fine. I think we are too, thanks to Shamia. And you know who else I think is the top, the MVP? Is it Angela? Yeah. Angela is really... She's really trying to leave a mark in a way. She's getting in there. She's doing great. You don't think that... No, I think she is doing great. I think she's trying and succeeding. I didn't see it coming because she's so soft-spoken. I know. I'm shocked. And I will say, like, this method sometimes really does work and sometimes it really doesn't. Like, we've all seen the people who've tried to get in too much and really failed. Like... esophagus gate who was her name Anne Marie from Beverly Hills don't remind me tried and failed but she Angela is doing amazing and I love her and Shamia and the jabs about Latoya's nose and it's chef's kiss it's chef's kiss but I'm like a little bit lost because I'm not really sure whose side she's on like who does she have I cannot keep track and that's something I was gonna say too is that like Allegiances are switching so fast on this franchise. Portia and Angela are playing tennis. And I'm like, wait, weren't they just yelling at each other last week? This is like Beverly Hills. It's like they spent all season on one fight and it's exhausting. And this is exhausting in a different way because I feel like I'm just ping-ponging back and forth trying to keep up. Yeah, I think Angela's still cool with Drew. And I think Drew is cool with everybody except Portia. And Portia... is cool with everyone except Drew. Is it that simple? That's my understanding of where we are right now. But I think these are going to change because they're planting seeds of breaking down the Shamia-Portia friendship, which I actually hope doesn't actually happen because they're like real friends from a really long time ago. And I would hate for this show and Shamia having a first season as a full-time peach holder to actually end a friendship with her and Portia. That would bum me out. I mean, we've seen the show end marriages. I know. Whose marriage has survived. Exactly. So a friendship is nothing, you know. The show will just steamroll it. But, I mean, and I saw, didn't Portia show up like two hours late to her birthday? I mean, yeah. That's not what you do for your bestie. So maybe I'm on Team Shamia for this one. Me too, probably. But Portia's so gorgeous, though. I just want to look at her. She's stunning, but... I want more from her. And again, no context. I feel like she's Meredith Marks. She's disengaging all the time. She's always above everything, which again is like growth. So you must be happy, but I'm not. Well, I think that she, and again, the context, like she's going through a lot. I actually do think this divorce for her is horrific. And I feel... Drew and Kelly are both going through horrific divorces also. Okay, Drew... They are in the muck. They are happy to get in there. So yes, Kelly's is horrific. Drew's is not. Like, her and Ralph together is a joke. Like, all from the second that they came upon our screen, everybody knew that was not going to stand a test of time. Nobody was being duped. They were a nightmare from, like, day one. And Ralph being in the basement like a troll is just... The gif that keeps on coming. Her professional shot is right in front of the basement door. You notice

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I'm not sure why Shamia and Portia had to go to dinner with Ralph. I thought that was weird. I liked it. I don't know. It was light. It was fun. Ralph's kind of cute, no? He's terrible. I didn't say he wasn't. I just said he's like good looking. I can't think of him that way because I have the context. I know too much. Well, Jesse's terrible too and you were able to see past it. I've had more seasons of Ralph than I have of Jesse. I guess so. Not many, but a few more. So yeah, he's gotta go. he's gotta leave the basement they can't continue that arrangement for much longer but it's so it's such an interesting thing because like Ralph and Ralph and Drew and then Jesse and Michelle are so similar where when they're in the same vicinity they both just can't not jab at each other like the dynamics I feel are very similar interesting well then we in that case we need to keep Ralph To keep, you know, keeping that spark, keeping that fire. I guess. But, like, if we want Drew to ever have a restful night's sleep again. She's... She's... I don't think she's having a restful night's sleep. She's going to sleep thinking about how she's paying for Pilar's college. Also, I love how much that got twisted because, like, we saw her say this initiative with me and Dennis could pay for Pilar's college. Not like... I will pay for Polaris College. It doesn't matter because that's still an outlandish statement. No, it's still a joke. Drew's not... She's not going to be the next Lady Gaga. Come on, or whoever she wants to be. I think Shamia's a better singer. Shamia's a way better singer. But as they were both laying down tracks in the studio, it occurred to me not one housewife has had a legitimately successful music career because of housewives. Candy had one pre-housewives. But nobody else has really, like, I don't think you can be taken seriously in the music industry if you're a real housewife. It's not the stepping stone they hope it is. You really can't. But I mean, yeah, I think you just have, like Luann, she doesn't expect to be on the charts, you know? Like, you just have to know what it's going to be. And hopefully Drew and Shamia have a realistic... I don't think they... Drew obviously doesn't. Drew does not. But actually, you know what? That's good. We don't want her to. I don't think Shamia does either. I think they're both living in Dolulu land. How does Shamia have so much money? I don't understand. HVAC. It's that HVAC money. I don't understand. We've done things all wrong. I foolishly married a guy in IT sales. I should have been looking at the HVAC community college class. I'm going to make a bunch of appointments to get my HVAC looked at. Yeah. Like every day a new appointment. Just a decent looking one to walk in. Yeah, and then I can level up. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know, but good for her. Yeah. Anyway, any other thoughts about Atlanta? I appreciate Shamia sharing her fertility journey. um it's really nice to see that i think she's again like she's just such a good addition because she's being so open with like everything and really not also being afraid to get in the mess and you know what i also love is when a housewife is in their confessional saying yeah i just want to be messy like yes bless please thank you yes and you know what Who else is not afraid to be open and not afraid to be messy? Angela. Exactly. They're the top two. Angela was saying, like, yes, we had our marriage problems. Like, I'll tell you everything. Yeah. I love it. So, yeah, Atlanta is firing on all cylinders. Anybody who's not watching it because the last few seasons were a bit of a letdown, like, I get it. But we're really back. We're really back. So I'm excited about it. The confessional looks. Love them all. I mean, it's just titties, man.

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And they look like they hurt. They're like so big and like all balloons. It's just two balloons in every single top of everyone. I can't speak to fake titties because mine are unfortunately real, but like it's got to be painful. They just look like they hurt all the time, and they're all oiled up, like, in every outfit. I mean, it's just, like, they're just shiny and just so rotund and so dense. It's just, they're just up and squeezed into these tops. No, but they look amazing. And they're towing, like, they're right on the knit. Like, at times, I do think I see noop. Because the cut is always right there. Yeah, no, like, if I could never, because... full areola would be showing at any given second like there's no way actually if they get animated i'm like the tape is doing a lot of work a lot of

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a lot of work but i also think that when you get your boobs done you can kind of like construct the areola nipple size you want so perhaps they just want like really tiny i don't know she may have like a great like snake skin type like billowing cape and again the the balloons were just like resting atop a shelf yeah I love it. And Lena's always given us something to look at, if nothing else. Yeah. Which I appreciate. What's not giving us anything to look at? Love Hotel. Right. You know it's bad when the number one guy is Ralph. I mean, I love an older man. Just ask me about The Golden Bachelorette. But... I can't even be wooed by Ralph. I thought that the one guy, Ian, that had glasses that they got rid of so quickly on this last episode was kind of cute. I was like, Ian. I could see that for you. Maybe Ian. I was shocked they let him go. I was like, Giselle! Giselle! You know when I was like, this is the most surreal experience of my life. Yeah. I was disappointed they let the guy who had a ticket on the space shuttle go, the Austin Powers guy. Why didn't Giselle give her key to him? Yeah. I don't know. I'm not really sure. She could have just thrown him a bone and just kept him around for another week because he's fun. I know. And then he's like, maybe I shouldn't have worn this shirt. I felt so bad for him. I feel bad for him too. Poor guy. Also, why did those guys get to... The other guys got to stay for so long before they had to do a key ceremony. I wonder... I don't know. I also don't know if they're going to bring in... I'm assuming they're going to bring in another crop of people. The unstructured schedule is, like, not good for my OCD. Like, I need to know, like, every episode or every other episode, like, what, you know, like, traitors. Every day it starts with, you know, a murder. Every night it ends with a banishment. Like, I feel comfortable. I feel safe. Like, I don't feel safe with this. No, I actually don't either. And maybe you're right because I've been wondering why this show I'm not connecting. And that's probably why is because it's all over the freaking place. And it's all about Shannon's DUI. Like I spent a whole season of Orange County talking about that. And now I'm spending all of Love Hotel talking about it. I get it. It was like a big deal, but like, can we, Shannon's got a whole ass life outside of that DUI. This is a secret. And this was like the biggest, most life changing moment. It's not a secret. She mentioned it. She mentioned it. And then again, and then again, and then again. Something she has to tell to the guys. And then again, when she was pissed that Earl the Pearl didn't come looking for her at 1159 on the dot. Yeah, why didn't he? You know, Earl the Pearl really disappointed me this episode. Why was he so sensitive? Listen, I never related to a human being more than when he said, I don't eat vegetables. I know, and I thought of you. I really did. And I was like, dude, same. And I felt bad for the way the women were just like, it's embarrassing. I'm like, God, I hope my husband doesn't think that about me when we go out to places and I'm like picking around my vegetables. Well, this is like a double standard, but I think it's like cute when it's a girl. Oh, thank you. Thank you for saying that. But honestly, it didn't bother me with Earl. Not that I thought he was attractive, but this didn't make me think any less of him. But I don't think her look was meant to be that bad. She was just giving him a look because he doesn't eat vegetables. Well, they were talking about it later in the episode. It came back around because Ashley was like, eat some broccoli, put some cheese on it, some rice dressing, and it tastes better. First of all, it doesn't. She's wrong. It does. It does, actually. Second of all, Shannon's crying going, it's embarrassing. And that's like, as Giselle moved into her confessional saying like, we've only known each other for two seconds. It's not worth tears. Correct. She said it was embarrassing that he like left and that he was like mad at her. Oh, I thought it was because he didn't eat vegetables. No, because he's like, what do you have to criticize everything I do? And she's like, what are you talking about? Are you being serious right now? I think ultimately they're just not a fit because like Giselle said, it's been two seconds. Like this is outrageous. And was it Giselle? Someone was being very selfless in giving their spare man Luann. She liked two guys, remember? And she's like, I'm going to give this one to Shannon. I have another hot take here. It better not be about Luann. Please don't let it be about Luann. It's about Luann. No!

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Luann's pissing me off what literally I did write notes my my note my first note I'm just so glad dang glad Luann is back on our screens where she belongs she does belong listen she does belong on our screens I'm not saying she doesn't but like the fedoras need to end it's her style the darlings I know this was separate because it was on Watch What Happens Live, but telling the Pope to rest in peace, darling, like, it's too much. It was iconic. Iconic. I think we've crossed a line. I think she's overdoing it. Don't overdo it. I think she's overdone it. But she said that line with such sincerity about the Pope. It wasn't that she really wanted that darling to rest in peace. Like, I believed that. I don't know. I just think, and I also feel like she, none of these men are enough for her. Like Luann, as we know, has been called Lu-man and she's a towering presence. And like she needs a man who's also a towering presence. I don't feel that any of these men are enough. They're not like worldly enough. They're not obviously tall or big enough. Like I don't think any of them are rich enough. She needs another count. Yeah. Well, maybe he'll be coming next week. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. We'll see. But like I just she's just. She's kind of getting on my nerves a little bit. I hate to say it. She's stunning. Her outfits, like that black dress she wore then when she was like storming off. What a dress to storm off in. And then remember like she was like crying and she storms off and then she goes back to grab her drink. Yeah. Well, you have to go back for your drink, obviously. The storm off was weird. Like, I didn't feel. I liked it. I didn't feel sincere about it. And that poor guy was like, WTF? Just happened. I know, but he wasn't scared away. Yeah. I thought it was really sweet when Ashley had mentioned that she was interested in Ralph and he was like, what is happening with me? He seemed genuinely shocked and cute. But I feel bad because if you're looking at Giselle and Ashley and you get to pick, most men are going to pick Ashley. Because she's younger, but... They're equally beautiful. No, Giselle's stunning, but, like, most men go with the younger woman. That's just... Sad truth. The ways of the world. So I feel bad. I hope that that doesn't actually happen. I did like, though, that it was, like, just, like, a little, like, messy. You know, just, like, throws a little bomb on everything. Like, I'm interested now, you know? That'll keep me. That'll keep me till next episode. Yeah, I mean, obviously we're gonna keep watching, but it's just I'm on the fence about this show. I gotta say, I'm not, like, totally sold yet.

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I was going to say I like it more than I thought I would. Maybe because my expectations were literally on the ground, I didn't want to watch it. No, I didn't either. Oh, I'm pleasantly surprised. Wait, so, okay, if there's a season two, who would you cast? If you could pick four ladies. And let's leave Sonya out of the equation because we already talked about her. Oh, great question. I'd love to see Adriana from Miami. That would be great. Heather Gaye. Let's get her going on there. Why wasn't she on this season? I don't know. And then, oh my gosh, this is Kelly Ben Simone. Interesting. I think she's still single. And I don't know. I think I'd like to see somebody maybe from Dallas, like bring back an OG perhaps, or maybe a Dorinda. Dorinda's on my list. Who would you cast? Definitely Heather Gay, as we've established. Erica, Erica Jean. Okay, okay. And then Kelly from Atlanta. Okay. I know she's new, but I like her. She's little, and I could just see her flirting with all the guys. Yeah. I don't know her that well, but I could see it. And then, of course, Dorinda is my number one pick. I think that she's an unconventional pick. I don't think they would ever pick her because she's so unstable, but man, would it make good TV. yeah those are good picks I like it and you know what speaking of Kelly Ben Simone I like had a flash thought the other day like did Real Housewives of New York legacy happen and was Kelly Ben Simone on it like that happened was she on the the one that we'll never see no I think that there was a Real Housewives legacy that there was she was on one but it was so nothing like it was such a nothing burger that I forgot it even happened it was like so anticipated and Kelly Ben Simone came and went Yeah, it was that rony one. She was still weird, though. Without a splash. Yeah, I wonder if we'll ever see any of those ever again. TBD, well, if you have your way, then she'll be on Love Hotel. Yeah, I think she'll be great. Let's pivot. Let's pivot to some TLC. All we have right now is OG90Day. We do. We do. Are you going to watch it? The new That Other Hunt for Love show. I can't do it. Yeah, I'll try to take that on. Okay, I can't take that on. That's going to be a you thing. We'll see. We'll see how long I last. But yeah, I'll take that on. So I think because it's also important for people to know that you don't watch every single iteration. So this is your first introduction to Sarp or in Shekinah. Yes, definitely. Welcome. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. I gotta say I loved this episode. Yeah, I did too. And I love, I don't want to say love, but like Sarper's really growing on me as a character. Me too. Should we just start with them? Yeah. The contacts are wild. I'll never understand. Maybe it's because I have blue eyes, so I don't get it. But like, maybe it's because I have blue eyes. Sorry, I don't mean it that way. They just never look legit. They don't look real. They look frightening. What's more frightening, Shekinah's wig or her contacts? I honestly couldn't tell you. The wig looked better when she did the butterfly clips, though. They did. That did help. But, like, God, it's all bad. And they took so long to explain why she was wearing it. It felt like an eternity that I was sitting there wondering, like, what is going on? Do you know what's so crazy, though, is when she came upon my screen in a wig, I truly did not give it a second thought. I felt like, that's on brand, and moved along. Oh. Probably because of the contacts. Maybe. I mean, you're right. Really, like hindsight, you're right. But I was still alarmed. It didn't startle me at all. I was like, this tracks and I'm, this feels right. Her outfits also are wild a lot of the time. I like some of them. I like that denim top. She's just kind of nutty. I'm not really sure what's going on there. I think you've got to be nutty to date Sarber, who... Yeah, I mean, I love him. I think he's so funny. I think he really has what it takes to be a comedian. Okay, so you didn't feel that he bombed at that? No, I 100% think he bombed. Yeah. Every big comedian has bombed so many times. Like, if you just ask them, more times than they can count. This was his first time. He had the stage presence. Like, his jokes were not funny, but... We've seen bigger names be less funny. No, you're right. We have seen bigger names be less funny. We won't name names here. But let's just say we've seen some big comedians IRL and they did not get a single chuckle out of me. And Sarper did. Well, not on stage. And not on purpose. But maybe on purpose. Okay, I made a list of his funniest lines of the episode. Are you ready? Oh, great. Yeah. Okay, when she said, do you know why I'm wearing this wig today? And he said, for handyman. I thought that was good. Handyman with butt crack? Handyman fork is what it's called, which I'm going to start using. It's a cinnamon for plumber's crack. I never knew that I needed one. Love it. When he said that their makeup sex was just animal instinct. Oh, my God. Like a tiger. And she just stared at him so straight faced. Yeah. I was like, how do you not laugh at that? I was laughing to myself. I don't know. Um, yeah, those were my favorite moments of his. Mostly the, for handymen. For handymen? Did you think that handyman was hot? I didn't. Um, he wasn't, like, ugly. And he was, like, talking about how in my country handymen are, like, chubby and sweaty. I think he's referring to handymen he sees in movies. I don't know, but he's like, this is what he knows them to be. Oh. So you're gonna be jealous, but I realized something. If I'm more on top of it, which, you know, I'm going to look right now. You could just go see Sarper whenever. Yes. At the gym or at a comedy show? At a comedy show. At the gym. You think I'm going to the gym? I'm so jealous. I'm officially following him, so I will be abreast of all of his stand-up. It doesn't look like anything. He doesn't have any gigs coming up? No, but he does have that boot laugh. That boot, that laugh. Oh, yeah, yeah. I feel like I could get on board with that. Okay, well, when I come visit... We'll do it together. Yeah, I'm going to come. We have to find wherever he is and go when I come in September to see him. I'm like 99% sure it said somewhere very close to me. So I think we're good. Well, yeah, because I think they live in North Hollywood. So yeah, it seems like he's pretty close to me. It seems like I might be able to make this a reality. Maybe you'll see him walking down the street post-fight one day. Well, you know what I thought was really sweet is that when after they're fighting, he's like, we should be touching. Like, even when we're fighting, we should be touching. I did think that was sweet, too. Yeah. So wise. He's so wise. Well, I wouldn't. That's like a carried away. I think he's really wise. I think he's just I think he's just a sensitive dude deep down. I think he really does love her. I think they actually are a good fit. I think it's a good fit, too. The way they look at each other sometimes. They're a flawed fit, but a fit nonetheless. But they still might be a love story for our time. Yeah. Oh, I think they are for sure. You know who is not a love story for our time? The throuple. Yeah, this fake-ass throuple that I... Okay, did I miss, like, a big part of the episode? Did they ever say why she goes by Brenda? No. What? What did we even watch, then? I think the assumption is that, like... annie annie is her stage name her stripper name but why this is like so why this bothers me why does it have you build up to nothing well yeah first of all it's because they're not they should be on before the 90 days it's so annoying that they're not all the time there are no rules okay well i need mad west i need mad sharp to follow some of the rules he puts in place honestly because like look at angela and michael i mean come on i know where do you think michael is these days i hope he's okay I think that he's somewhere where people are protecting him. I think he found a place. I hope so. I think enough people would take him in. I would take him in. Oh, in a heartbeat. Does he need shelter? He can come to Jersey and he'll be a refugee at my house. He's got a lot of support. Good. Prayers out to Michael. No, I think what also really bothers me about the throuple is that they're not even trying to make it look real because... Brenda Ani walks in and walks past Ray and just doesn't even say like, what the heck is this dude doing here? It's just like, it's like she isn't surprised at all. No reaction. No. And they could have cast a guy who was a better actor for this whole thing. That guy, I'm sorry, like we're all God's creatures, but respectfully, he's rocks for brains. I thought you were going to say something about his appearance. Oh, was there something to say about his appearance? No, I just thought that's where you were going. A normal enough guy, but, like, just, like, not smart, not a good actor, like, nothing. So normal. So normal that Imani was stunned at the normalness of his appearance. She couldn't believe it. Wait, what are you talking about? Well, when she saw him, she just kept saying how shocked she was that this was him. Like, this is the guy, like... Oh, we're talking about Rob. Rob? No, Ray. Right. I'm talking about the main guy. Oh, Matt. Matt. You said Rob. His name's Matt. We're like several seasons in. Several episodes in. I don't always catch the name. The main guy. The only man in the throuple is the rocks for brains, respectfully. Yeah, he is an idiot. And his name is Matt. Yeah. Not smart. But back to... Rob slash Ray. Ray. I do think he must have a brain. His appearance was a little shocking. But it's like, I can see how they would be shocked because they've been building up this guy. She's clearly scamming people. Like, this is part of her thing, I feel. Why would you go on TV if you're actually scamming people? Why would you date that Ray guy if you weren't? Why are they putting, whose kids are they putting on TV? I'm really confused by all of it. That's the biggest question of all. If you're faking this whole storyline, that's one thing, but to get your kids involved in it? Some people don't care. Some people truly don't give a fuck. That's twisted. I mean, that's a lot of people on reality TV. A lot of people on TLC specifically. Look at Angela and all her grandkids. Literally. I'm afraid of those kids. I'm afraid four of those kids. Both. All right, I don't have anything else on the thrumple there. No, I'm sick of them. Get them off. I think we should save the best for last. So that means we should do Juan and Jessica next. I loved... watching one go to Mount Rushmore in that poncho and just look like... Sad as hell! I've never seen an individual... There is one time I've seen somebody look sadder, and you won't understand this reference because, again, you don't watch all the iterations, but there was a time when Nicole was in Egypt with Mahmoud, who might still be wandering the streets of LA, we don't know, and she had to wear the full burkini, like, head-to-toe swimsuit outfit... and her just face was like sad in the burkini and why was she sad because she didn't want to be there she didn't want to wear it she wanted to just wear like a bathing suit it was it was a classic tale of an american woman going to a muslim country with a man who's muslim and being like but you can't make me be the things you want me to be like in your country yeah it's like what are you nobody knows they're signing up for for some reason yeah but there's if you google it there's like memes of the way she looked in that outfit and it is incredibly similar to the way juan looked in that poncho at mount rushmore yeah that that should be a meme yeah i'm sure it will be um it's just oh i see yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it's same vibe Same vibe. Oh, my God. I felt so bad for him because literally his life here is just shit. Like, everything is just wrong. Like, he can't wear the shirt he wants to wear at the wedding. Like, he doesn't get to, like, go to the open bar. Like, every time he gets even 1% excited, it's just, like, nothing. And this was, like, the culmination. Like, this was, like... It's not great. And I just think this is a classic case of you should have wrapped it up. You shouldn't have got her pregnant. I know. Because you can't leave. He can't leave. His life is miserable. And your life is miserable. None of this is what he wants. I don't blame him. The life she's living is not for everybody. And it's certainly not for Juan. There's no way they can... I was thinking about this. How can they fix it? Can she move to somewhere a little more thrilling? But they can't because her other baby daddy's there. Because of them kids. One tiny mistake... Ruined his life. Ruined. Yeah. So it's kind of sad to watch, but I think ultimately he knows he can't go back to the cruise life. He can't do that. That can't happen. But he's going to be like Napoleon Dynamite's uncle. The good old days. He's already doing that. This reminds me of the good old days on the cruise. In 30 years when his kid is having a bachelor party, he's going to be like, this reminds me of the good old days on the ship. 100%. 100%. All chowed up with nowhere to go. They chowed up. We all showed up and for nothing. Kind of like we did at Disneyland when the Tiana ride broke down. We were all chowed up with nowhere to go. Chowed up with nothing to see. Still haven't been on that ride. Still haven't. Hopefully one day we can show up again and get on the log. And hopefully one will show up again and see some presidential heads. I don't know. So we can pass his citizen test. I don't have a lot to say about them. I think Megan is creepy as hell. And I think- I know, I would not. And she, they had to spend the night in the same house. I was like, she's gonna murder him. Well, luckily her husband was there, who I think also is aware that his wife is batshit. Yeah, but he was blackout junk. He's not gonna save one. That man was a good time. What was his name? Her husband? Herbie? Herbie. Herbie. I like Herbie. I could hang out with Herbie. I don't know why he married that evil witch. Oh, unclear, but... Did you notice, like, when they were getting ready to go to Mount Rushmore, she's like, let's go, we're on a tight schedule. While he was, like, crying, seeing his, like, cousin for the first time in 20 years. It was like giving Sutton, like, let's move it along. Like, I know you're emotional, but... It also kind of felt like something I would do. It actually is. Take it as a lesson. We have a schedule to stick to. I don't want to get behind. No, she can fix it. And what is this? Like, okay, I guess those, the guys could make the burlesque show, but the girls, we didn't even really see what they did at all. No, we, and that's fine. But yeah, pretty standard bachelor party in the middle of nowhere. Another bachelor party that is occurring is Madi and Stevie. Oh, I forgot about that. In New Orleans.

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So you think she's bi and just doesn't want to say it. I just don't know why she's getting so defensive if she's not. And it's fine if she is, but, like... I actually don't think she is. I think she's just kind of weird. She seems private. Like, which isn't a bad thing. She seems almost like... I think she's too normal to be on this show is a conclusion that I've come to. Because she doesn't want to show her kids, which obviously any sane person wouldn't. She doesn't want to discuss her sexuality on TV in front of the world, which any sane person wouldn't. I think she's just too normal for this. Like, it's bothering me. And I think you do, honestly. I do, too. It's hard to get them to have conflict in general. I agree. I think so, too. I think this is the only thing. They're grasping at straws and... I thought that this friend who came out of nowhere gave us more in five seconds than they have all season. If a friend did that to you and called you selfish that you literally knew for two seconds, like, what would you do? Like, she handled it so well. I would have just panicked and started crying. I would have too. She did handle it very well. Because she seems a little bit more mature than perhaps I would be. i just can't think on the fly like that i would be so because yeah because she's connecting at the same time that this means that maddie told him everything

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like she has to process that and give a response to defend herself like to this guy who doesn't know her from adam like that was wild to me and i felt kind of bad for maddie too because like who hasn't been there like talking shit to your friends and then like you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube you know what i mean yeah he's nuts that friend but i appreciated it like he was doing some housewife level work there I had one more thought about the wedding dress. I liked the flower print. You love a flower print. And I wondered, you know, every bride, you know, they surprise their husband usually, and the husband says, like, oh, you look so beautiful. But, like, probably every groom has a thought like that about, like, what would your groom say if they saw the dress beforehand? Like, can I challenge you to ask your husband... Like, now that the justice settled, you've been married for, like, multiple years. Like, you love your dress. I love your dress. Everyone loved your dress. But did he really love it? Like, did he have anything? I know. No, he loved it. I know he would have loved it from the beginning, and I'll tell you why. Because he's a simple man, and there was some cleavage showing. And that is truly all he wanted in life. You don't think he would have said it was, like, too princessy? No, because I think... And because I also know that the only other thing he doesn't like is ruffles and ruffly sleeves, particularly ruffly sleeves. And so because there were no ruffles and no ruffly sleeves and some cleavage, he was like, that's great. And you didn't have like a print or like really anything that could be. It was very classic. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing, nothing crazy. I think for her, for Stevie, it just didn't fit. No, she was wearing, like, clothes under it. Yeah, like, we need to see that issue. I think he needs to see it again when it's correct. She would not look old. I think he just doesn't need to see it at all. Well, yeah, obviously, but that's... He's gonna like it. He's gonna get what he gets and he's not gonna get upset. What's done is done. Yeah. Alright, should we move on to the ultimate love story for our time? Yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? I think you're talking about Mark and Mina. You just looked confused. I'm just running down the list of couples in my head to make sure we didn't miss anybody. I feel like the... We did miss somebody. Who? Bread Boy? Bread Boy wasn't on this episode. Oh, I know, but in general. I mean, I did miss seeing them. I did miss seeing them, too. I keep thinking about Lucille. She haunts my nightmares, I gotta say. She's the throuple in that that's the other throuple on the show well Joan's not afraid to stand up to her I kind of like that the way they butt heads I do too I'm looking forward to seeing them next week yeah Mark and Mina so I've never been more on Mina's side the more episodes that pass the more I am like team Mina me too and I love that little 59 on the pancake thing and those pancakes looked good did they I thought so. Maybe it's because I'm eating a low-carb diet these days and I just wanted a pancake. It was more like a crepe, I think. Well, she's French, so of course she made more of a crepe. Also, I was surprised that he was only 59. That was shocking. Well, he's not that gray. I guess, but I don't know. I just thought he was older. I think it was really sweet how he was just... absolutely I will adopt Clayton and I thought that was really nice but I think Jordan is going to murder everyone in their sleep like Megan Jordan and Megan kind of look alike too and they act yeah they act the same you know if they right now it's just her and her brother and the daughter and now Clayton so that's four ways to split his money and then if they have another kid like they want to that's five ways to split their money that's what she that's what this is about yeah not enough because she's got a plane like this is that's what this is all about she does not want to lose out on her inheritance i just like if she's thinking that way she doesn't deserve it like do you think about getting an inheritance from mom and dad i don't think about that at all like if they leave us with nothing like i will expect that yeah ain't gonna be no inheritance from those two and that's fine like i want them to enjoy their life and spend it the way they want like no yeah deserve it But she's not in the minority. Like, there are a lot of people in the world that live planning for their inheritance. Like, it's not an uncommon thing, especially if your parents are wealthy. You hope that that's coming to you sooner than later, I guess. I don't know. Well, I was glad she wasn't in this episode because it just left room for just the most heartwarming moment. For Mach. Mach. i can never remember his name maybe that's why because she doesn't say mark mark i love when she called mock to say she was lost trying to get to the bitch and bitch bitch crew is a bitch and stitch or stitch a bit either way i i love it i'm obsessed with it i'd like to be a part of it oh yeah martini pat getting so emotional for Mina was really sweet. I had a feeling that all of those women in the Stitch and Bitch circle have been screwed over by a man at one point or a prenup they were forced to sign. That's why they need a bitch. Because the reaction was just so big that it's like, oh, you're crying from experience. These are tears of experience. No, but Mark is a stand-up guy. He is gonna adopt Clayton. He was always planning on it. Okay, he's a stand-up guy in this episode. Like, He's been a little bitch in several others. But you know, I have the memory of a goldfish. And right now I feel nothing but warmth. No, I felt warm and fuzzies from this episode also. And it's just like so opposite of Gino and Jasmine because he was like crying because he felt so bad that he like, he's like, I should have done something different to get him here. Where Gino was like, I don't want to pay for it. Nothing even happens. Gina was like, fuck them kids. Remember when we thought that Jasmine was actually devastated about that? I feel like I was fooled. I do too. She doesn't give a fuck about Wonsei or the other one. JC. That is a good ass memory. I know. Steel trap. Wow. That's why you know you remember Mark's coldness. Steel trap. Can we go back to Love Hotel for a minute? Because I just want to say... i love my job i love my life i love my friends did you catch that oh of course i did they said it multiple times i know it was everything to me it made me excited all right you're sorry do you have anything else about mina and mark no um do you have any like general pop culture thoughts of the week Well, I was going to ask you if you wanted to talk about Summer House, if you had anything. Oh, I just think this season's been a bit of a slog. I know that you don't watch it, but like for those of us who do, I couldn't care about Jessie and Lexi. I don't know why they felt like we needed to be so invested in them and we spent a whole season on this fake-ass relationship, but whatever. Pretty hot, though. Who, Jessie? No, Lexi. Something about her face bothers me. I'm not sure what it is.

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Um, I, I'm excited next, next week is the finale and we will get more information on pages. I mean, I listened to Giggly Squad, so I have her kind of take on the breakup, but like, we'll see it on the show, her opinion and thoughts of the way the break, the breakup went down. I'm definitely team page. Craig's a little bitch. Um, yeah. So, you know, and I still am of the mind that I think, I think they should move Paige and Lindsay over to Roni. At least they have an established relationship. Like, let's try to get back to our roots here a little bit. But we know they're good TV. We know they live in New York. They're outgrowing Summer House. To me, it just, like, makes a lot of sense to do that. So I hope they do. Yeah, I mean, they gotta do something to save that franchise. Yeah. Like, do that or take it away forever. I will not miss it. Separately in the world, I'm really living for what's going down with the Blake Lively lawsuit, subpoenaing Taylor Swift and threatening text messages. Release them for the love of God. Get Taylor on the stand. Get her on the stand. Get her on the stand. I would love that testimony. Yeah, I'm living for it. Me too. And I do. We have to say that if Justin is found liable, we do stand with Blake, the victim. Yes, yes, yes. But right now, I just don't think that's... It's just not my gut. It's not my gut feeling right now. You weren't there. You weren't on set. No, but you... I read through all the court documents. I did. I was going to say, you've been reading through everything. I have. And I do... It's just hard to form an opinion because they're both so against each other. But Justin's lawyer seems so bananas. Like the Taylor stuff. It almost seems too preposterous to be true, which is basically what the judge said. But why would you lie about it? That's a crime. I know, under oath. I don't know. So that's why I'm very conflicted. But, like, the judge didn't believe him. No. So I really don't know. I just, like, I'm just gonna, like, sitting back, like, as a passive viewer and just waiting to see where it goes. Hoping for a swift stand moment. Swift on the stand. Swift on the stand. Not when we're third-ready. Anyway, that's all I got for this week. That's all I got? I mean... I can't wait for... You know what actually I realized? Did they already tape the Valley reunion? Yeah, because we saw a seating chart. That's too early. It's too early. The season has just begun. Yeah, I don't know. It is early. It's literally like four episodes in. What are they doing? I'm not sure. They're going to have to do a reunion to the reunion. Well, there must be something they know because I think Michelle was on the end, which was weird. That is weird. Well, she's... I do have a hot take that I didn't say is that I think we could do without Michelle. The only reason I like her is because she riles Jesse up. I don't disagree. She's very, her delivery is very robotic. Yeah. I don't disagree. We'll see if she can do something else this season, but I mean, yeah, she's kind of boring me. I don't really have any other thoughts. 90 Day Diaries is pretty good if you want to start picking it up. Yeah, I might. Well, there's only the finale left. So maybe you watch the finale. You're going to see Annie have her baby, Annie and David. Oh, yeah. That did make me really happy. I love them. And Colty has made amends with his mom after two years of not speaking to her. Thank God. She lives with her boyfriend in Canada and they're hoarders.

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And Colty... That tracks. I noticed, like, growth in Colty. He seems more self-aware, like... You want to talk about growth? I see it in him. Isn't Colty about to be on that love show? Is he? I think he's on it. Well, you're going to report back to me about that. I will. And my last thought is that the guys from the last resort, like Rob and what's the other one? Rob and Josh. And that other guy who I don't know why we're giving him any screen time ever. They do like the Backstreet Boys dances and stuff.

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They make me sick. Oh, no, it's horrifying. The fact that they didn't get any screen time at all. Now, that is where TLC should take a stand. Yeah, it's not great. Oh, Kim Bali, the mom of the one dude, is going to be on the love show also. No, she's not. I think she is. I doubt it. No, I think she is. The previews are them all looking hot and, like, in, like, skimpy clothes. Like, she's not. No, I think she is. I'll report back, but I think... It's either her or it's Soulja Boy. Okay. Oh, also, Ashley and Manuel, did you see she was in a bodybuilding competition? No. She won. Or she made it to the next round. And Manuel doesn't like it because he doesn't think women should have muscles. He doesn't think it's hot. And she's very upset, very offended, which I get. But also, I feel like he's entitled to be attracted to who he's attracted to. He is, which reminds me of another couple that we missed, which is Sean and Aaliyah. They weren't on this episode. I know, but we didn't touch on them. So when they are on next week, I have similar feelings there. Yeah, he can't help who he's attracted to. Yeah. But the more important question is, did Manuel speak any English? Not really. No. No. Don't know. Oh, but he's working. He's, like, doing home renovation. Well, good for him. I know he wanted a job, remember? Like, really bad. And Ashley, like, she's working really hard. The bodybuilding is, like, a lot of work. She was, like, literally just, like, in the elevator eating a piece of, like, grilled chicken, like, a chicken breast on a fork. Like, it was, like, a hot dog on a stick. That's gonna be your life. Yeah, I was gonna say, once again, I am now becoming familiar with these strict ways of eating, and it is... Not fun. So the fact that she's doing it for shits and gigs is crazy to me. Oh, and remember Stephen and Olga, the girl who gave birth in that scary Russian hospital? Yes. They're splitting up. Oh no. They have two kids. They live in New York City. I know they got married like really young. Yeah, they did. I don't even know if they got, they must've gotten married. They got married. Yeah, like they live in an apartment in New York City with their kids and she's like in marketing, but they just were arguing. They were so young. They were. So that's pretty sad to hear. And their kids are so cute. The first baby is like six, which is really weird. Oh God, that's upsetting. Colleen and Matt from Love is Blind season Cutie Pie Gate are also divorcing. Is Matt the one that kind of looked like he was taking her hostage? A little bit. She was the ballerina. Yep. Yep. Well, she's finally free. Yeah. Not surprised. Cheers to Colleen. Congratulations. Cheers to Colleen and to all the divorces. We'll see you on whatever the spinoff is that I don't watch. Yeah. What is it called on Netflix? Perfect Match. She'll find it there. I know she will. Anyway. All right. We made it through our inaugural podcast. We made it, everyone. Thanks for listening. Congrats to us. Thanks for listening. Congrats to us. We'll see you next week. We'll be back for more fun. And in the meantime, I hope everybody gets a rot day. Are you getting a rot day this weekend? I am going to get half a rot day. Saturday or Sunday? Sunday evening will be my rot time. I'm going to watch Baby Girl. Ooh, let us know how it is. Are you going to have a rot day? All of Sunday can be a rot day for me, I think. So... Oh my God, we should watch Baby Girl at the same time and then we can both have thoughts. Okay, I'll do it. Have a great life. Thanks for rotting with us. We'll see you next week. Thanks for rotting with us. Thanks for rotting with us.