2 - Upcoming Show Trailers, RHOA, Love Hotel, The Valley, and 90 Day Fiancé

In addition to the currently airing shows (Real Housewives of Atlanta, Love Hotel, The Valley, and 90 Day Fiancé) Madelyn and Lil discuss their thoughts on trailers for And Just Like That Season 3, All's Fair starring Kim Kardashian, as well as their current watch lists of Sirens and Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. They also get into some chit chat about saggy boobs, bowling with talons, and bringing your partner's mom to a strip club!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:09

Welcome to Rather Be Rotting, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive dissect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be rotting.

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Hey.

SPEAKER_01: 0:25

Hi, Lil. What up? It's been a journey to get here to this moment. We've had, um... Maybe an hour of technical difficulties? My wine glass was full when we were supposed to start. It's empty now. I've stress eaten about 20 peanut butter M&Ms that I found at the bottom of my backpack. What are those from? How old are those M&Ms? You know, we may never know. I'm jealous. I never thought I'd be jealous of peanut butter M&Ms because I don't like those, but I would eat them right now. You know, it's like what we need in this moment. It's what I needed in this moment. But we're here and I'm just so happy to see you. I know. Glad we made it an hour later. Do you have any thoughts of the week off the top? I mean, we've got the fact that the subpoena for Taylor Swift was dropped. That's disappointing. Yeah, you know... I saw a Daily Mail headline that said something about how Taylor wished she'd never even met Blake. And of course, Daily Mail take it with a grain of salt, but I kind of liked it. Take it with a grain. I like it too. I think, you know, I'm disappointed. I still, someone is still lying here. Yeah. Taylor or Blake, either way, you know. Taylor was her dragon, allegedly, in the court documents. So where is her dragon now? Her dragon is hiding in the cave. So what does that tell us? Do you think that she's going to be at the AMAs? I do not. Do you think we're going to get reputation in Taylor's version that day? Monday? You know, I'm exhausted. This should have happened earlier. A year ago, honestly. And now I'm hearing rumblings on the internet that she has the chance to buy, she might get the chance to buy her Masters back again. I saw that and I'm like, does that mean we're not going to get the re-records? Because that doesn't feel fair. She really blew it by not releasing this sooner. Well, I heard I heard that she wasn't releasing it because Blake and Ryan's kid is in the intro for Gorgeous. And once all this started going down, she like wanted to redo that and take the kid out. Oh, I love that. Is that TikTok? Of course. God bless. God bless. So if that's true, then I mean, just cut her out. Who cares? Well, they'd have to probably rerecord the intro. Can I just take that snippet out? Why do they have to re-record it? Just take that one layer of sound off. Because it's iconic. Somebody's going to have to do it. It's like the whole thing. I think it would be amazing if she just cut it and released it without addressing it because then it would just say everything by saying nothing. Yeah. Okay, so what else happened? Oh, I watched. So, you know, we might have thought that we closed the book on Oscar season a few months ago, but I just put a bookmark in it. I reopened it. I watched Queer. I watched Baby Girl, which actually Nicole Kidman wasn't nominated for an Oscar. Some might consider it a snub. Do you consider it a snub? I do not. Okay. You know, I think that she and Demi were running very parallel courses, you know, leading up to award season campaigning. They both talked about the vulnerability that their roles took. They both got naked, you know. But yeah, Demi. That was another level. I feel as though Demi was robbed, obviously. I mean... I do too. I remember watching that movie and just... I couldn't look away, but I also couldn't look. There was a lot of peeking through my fingers. And Baby Girl, you can look. I mean, maybe I just expected more sex because of everything I've read about it and all the ways she just wouldn't stop talking about it. So, I mean, I guess that can only disappoint you, but... The substance, you know, that was everything that she promised us it would be. So I didn't watch Baby Girl because I said that Sunday was going to be a rot day and then it wasn't. My husband had me picking up a grill off the side of the road that day instead. Instead. Yeah. So as he does, we didn't get around to it. Should I circle back and watch it? you know i don't think you need to okay the ending was wild something straight out of a sex in the city episode the one where aiden and big fight in the mud oh god it was giving that speaking of sex in the city i watched the and just like that season three trailer although i will preface this by saying i haven't watched seasons one or two

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Because I can't bring myself to watch them.

UNKNOWN: 5:26

It's just, I think it's abomination to what Sex and the City was. So I'm still boycotting. And when I watched the trailer, I felt, and I can still continue my boycott.

SPEAKER_01: 5:37

No, I thought the trailer was very charming. I guess. It was very cute. The lighting was warm. There was this like vague, upbeat, empowering song in the background. Yeah. Carrie's still screaming in a way that I can't stand. There were rats. There were cats. I mean, it's just going to be another season where I ask you to fill me in. I can't do it. You know, I will, and I'm going to try to come into it with an open mind. The question is, can I forgive the sins of the show's past? After everything they've done to me, you know, the fingering in the kitchen, the pissing in a Snapple bottle, Che, period. Most specifically, Che's horrific cover of California Girls. Oh, and killing Big. There's that. Can I forgive? I didn't care about that. Kill him. I've always hated Big. Well, you know, I'm Team Big. I'm Team Aiden through and through. That doesn't mean I think he's back. That devastated me so much I had to call Mom after it happened because I was crying and I needed to be calmed down. Did you awake her from a slumber? To talk you off the ledge. No, I didn't. It was probably like eight. And I think you were in New Jersey. Otherwise, you know, you would have been my first call. Yeah. So I think the message, you know, the takeaway here is Michael Patrick King. I can forgive, but I won't forget. That's fair. And Che is gone. So I'm going to come into it with an open mind and I will circle back. Yes. Okay. Circle back, and then that's a phrase I hear quite often. So do circle back, and if you feel like I can handle it, maybe I'll try. I will. You can't say you weren't charmed by that trailer. A little. I was charmed a lot-le. I had a smile on my face. Do you know what I did think? Carrie's boobs look saggy a little bit. Oh, I didn't even notice them. Yeah, go back and watch. I think they... I mean, she is a woman of a certain age. My goodness. Let her live. Let her be. She has unlimited funds. If you have unlimited funds, do you want your titties on the ground? No. I mean, I'm fairly certain they weren't on the ground. You know why? You know why? Because she, SJP, we love her, but she has been known for... Going sans bra in a lot of episodes of Sex and the City. She's drawn a lot of attention to those ta-tas. So, yeah, we're going to notice when they're looking a little saggy and it's her own doing. I'm taking this as a personal attack because you know I don't wear a bra if I can help it. Well, I'm just jealous. If I'm going anywhere but work, you can bet your bottom dollar I will not have a bra on. So if that's what my future is, I better start saving my pennies for a boob job now. She has way bigger boobs than you. Don't flatter yourself. Yeah, right? No, she doesn't. Those mosquito bites need to grow before they can touch the ground. I disagree. Her boobs are not that big, but... We can move on to some huge knockers. Kim Kardashian, something else I'm looking forward to, but that's not coming until the fall. All's Fair, her new legal drama. Ryan Murphy. I had no idea this was in the works and I'm so excited. I thought it looked so good. You should be ashamed of yourself. I am. You're lucky to have me. I agree. Obviously, I think it looks so good. And I think that, you know, we know that I believe she was robbed when she didn't get an Emmy nomination for her role in American Horror Story. I think that was a huge snub. You know, I think this is going to be the one. I really do. She struts. She straddles a man. She ugly cries. She injects herself with some sort of shot in a toilet stall. She gives menacing stares. She has a flippy haircut. She does have a flippy haircut. How could I forget? I'm so excited about this. You know Halle Berry was supposed to be in this show, but she had a scheduling conflict. What on earth is she doing these days? You know, making movies for Netflix and stuff with Mark Wahlberg, I think the truth is that she was scared to act alongside the powerhouse that is Kim K. Sure. Okay. She was intimidated. I really do believe. Sure, sure, sure. So that's coming in the fall. We've got a while. But the trailer was delightful. Sarah Paulson, Niecy Nash, Glenn Close. It's jam-packed, star-studded, and I will be seated and sat to watch. You know, Ryan Murphy, I can't do most of the American horror stories. I did Dr. Odyssey because my man Joshua Jackson was in it. And, you know, I don't think that cruise is going to sail for season two. I really don't. It's unclear. And if it does set sail, I don't think I'm going to be on board. I don't think I can take that cruise this time. Well, that's okay. You don't need to board the cruise. Okay. It's fine. Do you want to talk Bravo? I do. I do. Do you have anything else? Yeah, I just, there's a new show on Netflix called Sirens that I have on my list. Oh, it's on my list too. Haven't started it yet. And then I will also say to our many listeners, I haven't started Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season two yet, but I'm going to. So I'm going to take that journey as well. I need to carve out a little time this long weekend and see how far I can get into that. I need to finish season one. So I have my work cut out for me. Oh, okay. You know, I did abandon it, regretfully, because it looks like things are really picking up steam in season two. I'm hearing a lot. Yeah. So that's coming. Those are my thoughts, kind of. We'll circle back. We'll circle back again. A couple things to circle back on. We'll put pins in them. One more thing. I do recommend this show called The Residence on Netflix with, what's her name, from Orange is the New Black. Her name is not coming to me. Uzo Aduba? Yes. She's fantastic in it. It's very interesting. Me and my husband are one episode away from finishing it, but the last episode is a full hour and a half. It's like severance status. As you know, we're right in the middle of hockey playoffs, so God forbid we watch literally anything else until that's done. So, recommend that. Alright, noted. Okay, I took notes today. The only Bravo show I took notes on, though, was Love Hotel. Well, do you want to start there then? No, I actually want to start with Atlanta. Okay. Because I had a few main thoughts coming out of Atlanta. Number one, just jumping right to the scenes from next week, we are going to get Phaedra next week. Which I'm excited about. Super excited. Love, love Phaedra. I had a few takeaways. The main one, when they were in the bowling alley, Portia's ass is just so... Magnificent. Looking at it in all its glory, I couldn't tear my eyes off the screen. Like, I know we went on a rant about their titties last week, but, like, her ass is just... I don't even have the words to describe it. It's like two globes. Two globes. Two half globes. Yeah. Two halves of a globe. Two halves make a whole. It's... Yeah. It's really a sight to behold. So that was the first thing. And then the second thing is, as she was bowling, I was looking at her hands, and... As a woman who loves a set of Gel-X nails, I like a short almond. When I go to get my nails done, I ask for almond short. And they're still long in my life, like to me, but they're short in comparison. And I struggle to go bowling because our dad loves to bowl. And so when we see our parents, we like go bowling. And if I have a good set on, I struggle with my nails. So as I was watching Portia attempt to bowl with nails at least three times the length of mine, I simply thought to myself, how on earth, how on earth? Did she, was she doing it in earnest? I wasn't really, I'm not going to lie, the bowling scene didn't stick with me. I'm shocked because that stuck with me the most. Was she genuinely holding the ball in an official way? Was she knocking down pins? Yes, yes, yes. Pins were being knocked. I mean, it goes back to the question of how do you wipe your butt, which Cynthia Erivo said that's an ignorant question. I'm sorry. I still, that wasn't an answer. I would love to know. I have the same curiosity. And I also loved Angela asking multiple times for bumpers because I am another adult who wants bumpers when I'm bowling. And I feel like people who shit on us are rude. It's not fun to go bowling when you don't hit any pins. Yes, it is. It's about socializing anyway. Who's really there to win the bowling championship? No one. We're not in a league. I mean, tell that to dad literally every single time we go bowling. Yeah, because he's a true athlete. We know that we're not. We're there for a different reason. Much to his dismay. He does not want you to socialize. Matter of fact, he would prefer you shut the fuck up and bowl as fast as possible so we could get as many games in as humanly possible in the allotted time span. So, case in point. Sorry, pops. I thought it was nice when they were bowling. The other thing I noticed at the lunch meetup with Shamia and Portia is her dress. She did address it at the end of it, thankfully. But, like, before she said anything, I'm like, the bottom of her dress just will not stay put. It won't stay together. Yeah. Her hoo-ha was to be exposed any second because her dress, the bottom, just the buttons kept popping open, like all the way up to the hoo-ha. I did not notice because Shamia's ass was fully exposed in those jeans. They had splits for both ass cheeks. Those pants were like, it was like jeans that were chaps almost, it felt like. Huge ass cheek holes. So crazy. Yeah. You're coming to this serious dinner to talk to your friend about this huge fight you're having. How can anyone take it seriously when you show up with your ass out? Those pants were wild. What did you think about their dinner? Or maybe lunch? Unclear. I gotta say, I'm Team Shamia here. I understand that Portia's going through some shit, but... You can't be a shitty friend. It's like that situation where somebody is telling you that they feel something about a way that you've made them feel and you just get defensive. It was sitting there watching her get really defensive when Shamia was completely valid to be like, I'm just trying to express my feelings to you. You hurt my feelings and even though you're going through shit, we are friends and I should be allowed to tell you you've upset me. So Yeah, I was really team Shamia. I think the issue is more that they were confronting each other about putting their grievances on camera. Shamia told other people on camera that Portia hurt her before going straight to Portia. And then Portia calling Shamia out on camera at that party where they were all in their panties. You know what I mean? So I think that that seemed to be a problem for them, but... They need, that's gotta go. That's not a valid argument because you've signed up for, to be on a reality show. Yeah. I don't think Portia can be mad about that. She's not new to this. No. And maybe she's new. And I think I saw Shamia on Watch What Happens Live and, you know, she said like, or no, maybe it wasn't, maybe it was on the show, but she said something about how I've never been a peach holder. So I've never been able to open up like this. So maybe Portia, this is like a new me, you know, and it might affect her and she's just going to have to live with it. Yeah, those are, oh, another takeaway. I think that Angela's husband, I forget his name. I know he's like famous athlete, but I can't remember his name. Charles, Charles Oakley. Yeah, I think he hates her. Why? That man hates his wife. I think I couldn't tell because she was trying to laugh it off. You know how I know is because I have been in this exact situation before. Where I can tell that this dude is just annoyed with me and isn't being, you know, a loving partner in any capacity. And I'm just gonna pretend like it's so funny. It's not though. Like I can see right through it. That makes me sad. It is sad for Angela. I just feel like I can see right, like, it could be any, it could be that he hates her. It could also be that he just like doesn't want to be Yeah, on camera, put in situations where producers like, okay, you're going to talk about this thing, like he might just think like, that's stupid. But if that's the case, then it's not coming across very well to me. And like, then why did you let your partner sign up for it? Because like, they all know these husbands know they're part of the equation. I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt, at least for now, because I think that option B is more likely, at least that's what I want to believe. I want to believe it too, but man, I... He probably told her, yes, do what you want to do. It'll keep you busy, you know? And he's just showing up where he's told to show up. It'll keep you busy because I can't stand to be around you anymore because I hate your guts. But why would he hate her? I don't know. What did you... I have to say, and I... I don't want to hate on mom and dad anymore, but Angela buying her parents a house or buying her mom a house and then her mom saying no thank you is like a larger scale version of what our parents do. Like if we were rich and we bought them a house, they would also say no thank you. Can I return it for cash? Hundo P. Hundo P. Oh my God. They would definitely do that. Yeah. That made me laugh. Oh, and then one other observation was on Watch What Happens Live, Kelly was on and she was wearing this red dress that was, and I'm only bringing it up because we did go on the missive about the boobs last time and the areola. Areola was out on Watch What Happens Live. They had to blur it. Oh, shit. They blurred it for a whole block and then they went to break and then when they came back, her hair was draped over it. Wow. Because it was out. It was like all the way out. So I guess as our musings were proven correct that- We were foreshadowing is what we were doing. Yeah. Wow. Speaking of Areola being fuzzed out, well, did you have any more thoughts on Atlanta? No. I didn't either. You caught that too, that little nugget on Love Hotel? No. That's not what you're talking about? What are you talking about? Okay. Pin in that. Pin in that. Because there's another- I'm going to lead a few segues here. So like, first of all, Summer House finale happened and we got to see Lindsay Hubbard and her new baby Gemma. And we got to watch her. breastfeed or pump milk while Paige talked about her breakup from Craig Conover and so they blurred like you can't see anything in the pump bra and like I've had friends who have newborns and I've seen those pump bras live and in action you can't see anything but they blurred it anyway so I'm like how dark is Lindsay's areola that they still have to blur it out oh my god your analysis maybe it was a see-through one It wasn't. But the funniest part is that she poured a shot of her breast milk for Amanda and Paige to try and they both thought it was like delicious. Oh my God. Can I try yours? Of course. When you have a baby? Of course you can. I'm definitely going to try it. I think I'll try it. So that was interesting. And I, you know, the Paige conversation about Craig wasn't anything surprising. I just think that Craig's a little bitch and page. But the craziest thing coming out of Summer House, and I can't believe we didn't come off the top with this, is that Jesse Solomon hooked up with Erika Jayne. Yeah, right. No, dude, that's everywhere. You didn't see that today? No! It's everywhere. Oh my god. Who said, who confirmed it? Let me give it a quick googs. Well, I mean, did either of them say it? I can't remember, but it was... She seems like too much woman for him. So I think you're right, but I also think that like she likes it for a hookup. People Magazine is saying Erika Jayne and Jesse Solomon hooked up after Watch What Happens live appearance last week. Sources say? A source. Interesting. Yeah, I guess I could see it as like a one-time thing. Totally. But yeah, don't you think like I think that she probably didn't enjoy it except for like the clout that it gave her because he's so relevant right now and she's not in the conversation right now because it's her off season. Yeah, they both stand to gain something from it, I think, because obviously we're sitting here talking about it. So you don't think that they're going to go the distance? Something's telling me they're not. Well, and you know what sucks is they film these reunions too soon because now Andy can't even ask him about it. No. But I'm sure it'll come up on the next season of Beverly Hills, hopefully. Well, they got to give us something because that show. I liked last season. I didn't. Oh, which reminds me, though, of we forgot someone crucial to cast for Love Hotel next season with our casting Sutton. Oh, my God. She should be the number one person. That would be so good. Ashley said it on Watch What Happens Live. And I was like, oh, of course, Sutton. Of course. Who's areola was out on Love Hotel? So, you know, like they do a montage at the beginning of the episode. Everyone waking up. They got Lou and Shannon shuffling in their bathrobes and Giselle. In between all that, Ashley just sitting naked on her balcony. Completely naked. It was like a five, like a one second shot. Just like a little nugget for those of us who are really paying attention. Well, you know that's not me. So it's no wonder I missed it. It's like a Bravo saying thank you for not having your phone out. Yeah, well, then I wasn't the target audience for that. But she's never shy about that kind of stuff. My main thoughts from Love Hotel, there was a moment where Luann said about her man, James, quote, he's on me like white rice and I'm not mad at it. I knew you were going to say something about that. And I thought to myself, first of all, The saying is wrong. It's white on rice. Second of all, is that racist? And should we even be saying it at all? I was thinking like, what does that term even mean? I don't want to sound stupid, but I don't understand white on rice. I never have. I'm not clear either, but it feels wrong. Something about it feels wrong to you. I just don't get it. I don't want to. I just don't understand. I mean, I know like what it means in the context, but where did it originate? Like, why? That guy, their date was a snooze fest until he started talking about how his dad had a giant peen and I woke the hell up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so did she. She perked right up. She'd never been more invested in her life. She was like, we can cuddle now. They're both singers. I think that this might be a love story for a time. I think it might be. I think he's just a strummer with a giant peen who just has a song in his heart. What did he call it? An abulge in his pants. Big as a baby's arm. Big as a baby's arm, that was it. Oh my god, it was so dead. Ralph, I'm attracted. Oh, what a shock. What a surprise. I have completely turned on Ralph from not understanding it to, with the exception of his necklaces, like the way he moved in to kiss her. Like all their kissing, really. And you know what she said on Watch What Happens Live? That Wale is a better kisser. But I did not see that. I am very into Ralph. You are sick. Are you not? No, he's an old man. How old do you think Ralph is? He's in his 60s. No. No, he's literally in his 60s. I'm gonna look this up. I promise you because she said it. She said he is in his 60s. While I look this up, tell me, who do you think is she going to give her key to, Wale or Ralph? Probably Wale, because I think somebody else will end up keeping Ralph around. And I also want to call out Adam, who was on the date with Shannon, was wearing a really disgusting scarf that looked like a towel from the hotel that he draped around his neck at some point. He also wore a vest. Yeah. They were real that day. I wore a vest. You can't wear a scarf and a vest. Like... What are we doing here? Ralph is 62. As I said. A ripe 62. That man could be your dad. But he's not. Sick. Okay. Sick, and then my only other thought is I can't believe they left us on a cliffhanger. I know, but yeah, what do you think is in that envelope? A check? I don't know. It seemed like she was like, here's your parting gift. Like, I know you're poor. Is he poor? I don't think he's like super well off. No. Their energy, they are both just wound so tight. It's like, it's hard to look at them. Especially together. They're just these balls of like negative energy. energy yeah it's like I I'm a pretty anxious person and one time I had a boss who was also really anxious and it was I just thought every time we met like this is the worst we both leave these meetings convincing each other we're gonna get fired it's like that you know yeah yeah and he triggered me I know he triggered you yes last week or Shannon triggered you actually last week when she got on him about not eating vegetables this week she got on him For not remembering something that she told him. And as someone who has a terrible memory, I was definitely triggered. Yeah. And it was a personal attack. Well, Shannon is just, she's set in her way. She's not like the easiest person. So she needs a dude. I'm beginning to sense that. Yeah. That's the thing. She's going to be a tough one to find a mate for because she can rub people the wrong way. She just needs someone so laid back who can just brush off everything she does. Yeah. Like, oh, it's not a big deal. Like, everything's fine, you know? Yeah, definitely. What else were your thoughts from this episode? I didn't really have any. Oh. Did you? Not more than what I said. I just feel like I really, I was into it this week. Yeah, I was into it too. But you know what I really was not into this week? What? The Valley. Me neither. What a boring episode. What a filler episode. Even the return of Sheena Shea couldn't save it. Were you happy to see her? I was happy to see her. Yeah, of course. And I found myself wondering how much she was getting paid. And then I thought, you know, probably nothing. Because if anybody's going to work for free on Bravo, it's Sheena Shea. Hundo P. And also, I felt like she would have given... I'm like, is she not giving enough because she's not getting paid? But then, you know, I think she did the best with the material she was given. Yeah. She wasn't given a lot, which is on Bravo. I feel bad for Nia. I feel like they just made such a big deal. Who was it that when they were talking about it was like, who cares if he was drunk? It was Luke. He's like, he got drunk and fell asleep. Yeah, like, that's how I felt about it. I'm like, why are we dragging this out? This is so stupid. This is turning into a Beverly Hills drama that's not a drama. What did you think of Kristen and Luke's house? Oh, I was gonna ask you that too. You know, I don't, I like an open floor plan. I don't like a separate kitchen, but I know you do. I really liked it. I couldn't tell, like, can we take a wall down? I couldn't really tell, you know, from my assessment, but hopefully we'll see more. I did like it overall. I like the pool. I like there was some wall with, like, mid-century modern, like, coals in it. I liked it. Me too. They can't take any walls down. They're renting, which is why I was surprised they had painters come in to do the fireplace. I'm like, you're renting? That's crazy. I thought they bought that house. No, she said we're still renting. Okay. Oh, I missed that. Yeah. Oh, so congratulations. You know what? Congratulations are in order because a move is a move. Yeah, I felt like I felt so the house that we're in now is the first like house that we've rented. And I definitely feel it's a step up, you know, so I'm happy for them. I do want to know where it is. I can investigate. Yeah, if we could find out, that'd be great. Anyway. Shall we move on to the TLC world where we're really in the muck? Yeah. I'm loving this season. Honestly, everyone is just, I'm thrilled. I'm just thrilled. Any way you slice it. It's a good season. I have some, my first notes are on Sarper and Shekinah. Sarper and my phone autocorrected to sober. So when I reopened my notes app, I thought, why did I write sober Shekinah? What you got? The wig was still with us. So she doubled down on that wig. I was a little surprised. And guess what? Seems for next week, she's tripling down on the wig. Yeah, she really likes that wig. I wonder how much she spent on it. Did not look like a lot. No, no. So that house. The castle. That man does not own that castle. How do you know? What does he do for a living? We really don't know. I googled. I googled that house. And? It's like an event space. You can rent it for$200 an hour with a minimum of six hours. Are you sure? It looked like a house. No. Well, it's a house, but it's a rental. No way. Oh, my gosh. Cover blown. Dan's cover blown. It's called Mulholland Castle, if you would like to Google it yourself. Someday I will. Yeah. That's hilarious. So I totally bought in. I was like, oh, what does he do that he can afford this castle? No, I took one look at that and was like, ain't no way. Oh my god, good job, Will. I love how he walks down the hill and he just goes, cool house. You know, I didn't have a lot of thoughts about them at all, other than that Dan and Sarper's sexual chemistry is a hundred times better than Sarper and Shekinah's sexual chemistry. I mean, Dan telling him that he's a bad boy, it's like they're about to fighting and they're about to make out. Like, I honestly felt like I was watching the start of a porn. Hondo P. Hondo P. Yeah, that was... Just a lot of bad acting in one place. Yeah, the phoniness was getting to me. And I know this is all fake. I know that. But I don't like it when I can see it right there on the surface. Yeah. It takes me out of it. That bothers me. I can only suspend my disbelief so much. Yeah, that was my only thought on them. I loved him saying, cool house. Yeah. They didn't give us that much. No. Stevie and Maddie, so... Again, too fake when I can see through it. It's just, I started with how much we loved this episode. This is the second time that I'm like, strike two, it's too fake, too overproduced. Yeah. I have written in all caps, tassel titties. The tassels were strong enough to see over the blur. The nips were blurred, but the tassels prevailed. They made it through the blur. Yeah. I will say, for what it's worth, like, i'm sure that it is incredibly overwhelming for maddie like all of this is is probably a lot and i think he's kind of coming across as like a little bit homophobic and like no i don't think that i i do a cultural thing well i know that but he's just saying he knows Right. So that's my point. Like, he's coming across like he feels strongly about these things. But I think as time goes on in America, he's going to be more open-minded than he is now. Like, I think because he said a few weeks ago, like, oh, homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe in it. Like, I think that will change as time progresses because he's already pretty open-minded. And he even apologized for his reaction to... Whoever the friend is. Claire. Yeah, Claire for his reaction about the painting. I liked that. Me too. I think he's really sweet. I do too. But I mean, I will say the whole burlesque thing is all production. Let's put him in a spot where he's going to be uncomfortable. Let's have his friend sitting right next to Claire. The girl who caused the, you know, the controversial Claire. And then also like that guy, he literally seems like they pulled him from an improv, like a local community improv group. You're so right. Like, talk about the fake, you know, production set this up, they hired this man, like, can you act like an angry friend? And we've seen enough, you know? Yeah, we've seen enough. Yeah, like, he has never seen Maddie in his life. No, no. Before this. I did think it was odd that she said there are some things in his paperwork that are making us get married sooner. I thought it was a cost thing. Well, maybe it's the cost of the paperwork. Oh, okay. That's what I thought. I would just like to say that there was one of their friends who they were talking about going to the burlesque show and she said, you only YOLO once. And I just felt bad for her because she probably told all her friends and family to watch her. And I don't know, you know, in the five second, the one line she got, she totally messed it up. So I felt bad for her. Yeah, she blew it. And then did you see the preview for next week? He's crying and saying he made a mistake. Listen, every single time this happens, it is a classic Matt Sharp fake out. I'm not going to get my hopes up or worked up over it in any capacity. They bought... They got me. Hook, line, sinker. You're a sucker. I... Call me... Call it what you want. That looked real. Those tears looked real. Well, the tears looked real. I'm sure he is upset or crying about something. But, you know, they love to spice and dice words to... Like... The previous episode, the preview showed Mina crying in her dress thinking that it wasn't going to fit. Okay, well, that we all could see coming. But it was just going to be tears of happy emotion. It's always something like that. Do you want to just, like, go over the throuple really quick? Because... Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. I'm just confused. But about everything. And this is why I stopped watching the show Lost because they kept introducing new mysteries and never solving the old ones. It's just too much. You know, like I have all the same questions. I have more questions. And I think I came to like a really big realization. Like we thought this was all fake. But if it were fake, don't you think it would be a more clean, crisp story? sharp storyline instead of this confusing web? I don't know. I mean, they're such bad actors. The couple, you know. Maybe they are faking and they're just too stupid to put together a cohesive storyline. But then wouldn't TLC step in? No. They've let all kinds of idiots that are bad actors come upon our screen. I don't know. I don't honestly like I don't know what to make of it. And the problem that TLC has is that I don't care enough to try to make anything of it. Like that's the issue. It's too confusing. And I don't even care to speculate that much because it's just so stupid. Like all of it. But they don't care that you don't care because as soon as you get like you've reached your limit with them, they give you Joan and the bread boy and then all as well. I have a lot of feelings about, about the way that that went down with Joan and Lucille. Let's hear it. I think that Joan was wrong. I think she was mean. I think she was mean. I agree. I agree. I understand maybe wanting her family to see the dress first, but I think that there could have easily been a compromise made there. Like she could have had them on the screen and then shown them and then had Lucille come in to see like five minutes after that. I agree. And maybe she doesn't know like culturally that that's just what you do. Could that be it? No, because she obviously knows it's a special moment because she said it's a special moment. I want it just with my family. And especially after like Lucille is going to pay for their wedding. Exactly. It's completely disregarding. If you say you're grateful for her help, like this is a good way to show that. Yeah. It's heartbreaking. Yeah. And I'm not Lucille's biggest fan, but. No, no, she's not. She doesn't deserve this. She doesn't deserve this. Justice for Lucille. Justice for Lucille, just for this episode. But I will say that I do. It could be because Joan's culture, like she doesn't understand how serious it is. I don't know. I think the fact that she deliberately opted to exclude her does show how serious it is. I mean, Lucille did take it in stride, though, and, you know, talked about payback. What do you think it's going to be? I think it's going to be, like, fanning her up, like, putting butter in everything, just, like, sticks of butter so she can't fit into her dress. If she's any good Italian mother, that's already happening. So... No, I think that the payback might be making her do more house chores. Just never leaving the house so they can never have sex. Just never leaving, being there forever. See, there's a couple things that have happened that I felt like Joan was just like kind of mean and I don't know what the deal is with that. Well, it looks like they make amends by next week because they're sitting next to each other at the strip club. admiring the naked women. Can you imagine? Joan's next to Lucille and she's shouting at the stripper, you're killing it! Can you imagine bringing your partner's mother to a strip club? No. I would rather stick forks in my eyes, honestly, because it would be so uncomfortable. What about you? I'm trying to imagine my mother-in-law at the strip club and honestly... Honestly, I think it might be fun. It might not be the worst time. I would go with your mother-in-law for sure. That'd be so funny. Maybe we should do it. Probably not. It's a date. By next week, that's your assignment. Probably not going to do that. You want to save the best for last and talk about Mark and Aaliyah? Do you mean Sean and Aaliyah? The names really just don't stick for you. Is there a Mark? Yes, Mark and Mina. Oh, okay. Your version of the best. I'm not going to lie. I don't know Bread Boy's name either. Greg. Okay, I think, what is, what are the names of the ones that weren't in this episode that have all the kids? Juan and Jessica. You're good. I know. That's why I won a Sex and the City trivia, because I pulled Steve's girlfriend's name that was mentioned one time and we got first place. This is why my bad memory when Shannon brought that up was triggering. Okay, so Sean was wearing a blinged out King of Spades shirt. Okay. He was. It's possible he's had it from the old Ed Hardy days in the early 2000s. It was giving Ed Hardy to me as well. But, like, you're going to be on camera, you really... But he does look like one to, like, keep crap. No, yeah, he's a hoarder, for sure. To save relics, you know. Like, maybe he saw, like, a really good Barbra Streisand movie when he was wearing that. Or he just still likes it. Simply, it's still his style. Aaliyah needs to help him. I really related to her in a way because he took her rollerblading and she said she really just wanted to, she wanted to rot on the beach. She's one of us. She's one of us. One hour on the back, one hour on the front. One hour on the back, one hour on the front. And I was like, yes, yes, I want to rot on the beach as well. Slightly different because I've got SPF 70 and an umbrella. Yeah, you need to rot with your ugly beach visor. My beach visor that is my favorite hat. Your cover up. Yeah, but that's okay because it's only a few inches to the sun from where I'm covered. So we can still hang out, you know? Yeah, totally. And we do. So it's perfect, but I, like her, would not have wanted to rollerblade, and he didn't help her at all. No. It's just a really sad situation overall. Yeah, it's sad to watch them, because I can see really both sides, how he got into this relationship with the man and was really into it, and... he's allowed to be attracted to to men and not want to be dating a woman like that's allowed and but she's also allowed to live her true life i think they finally started to have some real conversations about their boundaries towards the end of the episode which needs to happen and of course we saw told her the truth yeah and of course we saw in the preview that you know, she runs out on the wedding. So we don't know what happens from there. I thought he ran out on the wedding. No, I think she does. I thought she was, like, crying and stuff. I think she's crying as she, like, runs away. Well, and also that he said that she wasn't comfortable being intimate with him. No. The truth is he is uncomfortable being intimate with her. By the way, he doesn't need to tell her how to say anything if he can't. pronunciation I know he spends a lot of time making fun of her and correcting her mistakes with her accent when he can't even say intimate he misses a letter every once in a while but I mean I guess who amongst intimate intimate threatening Michelle from the valley should meet Sean well they both live in LA so he could intimately threaten her yeah He could. Intimately. So, I mean, I don't know. I just think, I wonder, part of me wonders if this is like some sort of arrangement that they're just kind of faking for the cameras where they know they're not going to stay together. But they still like each other and they're friends, so he's going to get her to the U.S. I wonder that, too. Like, she has such a future ahead of her that him telling her the truth isn't going to stop her because she's young. Yeah. And if that's the case, I wouldn't even be mad at it. I don't necessarily need to see it. I would be mad that it's on my TV when we could have seen a real couple. But, like, I wouldn't be mad that that's an arrangement that two people are working out. Coming to. And I do like her, and I'm glad that we met her. I love her mom also. Her mom is everything. Her mom is everything to me. When she was showing off her fake muscles, saying she was going to take people down. Yes, it was so cute. And I also, I love that she said, how does Sean feel about all of this? Like the only person to say the right thing, you should be taking, if this is your partner, you should be taking their feelings into account too. Yeah, but she has to be her. And if his feelings don't align, she still has to do what she's going to do. Well, yeah, but they need to break up. But I worry because I think she needs the support of her mom because this is such a terrifying situation. you know hard thing to do to undergo these certain these complex surgeries she needs the support of her mom if her if she does get the green card and stays here and works with that wonderful doctor i think somehow she needs to get her mom here to be with her to take care of her well this is the other thing who's gonna pay for it sean

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rich another reason they have to get married they're only west hollywood hills rich they're not beverly hills rich Oh, yes. I mean, to me, all of it's rich. Those are two different levels of rich. They're both up pretty high to me. Both way above us, but two different levels, nonetheless. Mark and Mina? Yes. Love. Obsessed with them. They're everything to me. The sisters' relationship reminded me of us. Me, too! And it was exactly the same, like... One girl stays where she is. The other sister is torn away from her sister by a man who decided to move to a whole nother land. He doesn't listen to this, right? He probably will give it a listen, but whatever. Okay, cut this out. Cut this part out. I'm not cutting it out. But, I mean, truly, like, we're both torn apart by a man. We weren't torn apart by a man. We were torn apart by my job, let's be clear. That's your narrative. Okay. Yeah, I just and also when they when the producer asked her sister Alex if she could ever live in New Hampshire, she immediately was like, no, never. Nope. Mina can't even live in New Hampshire. I couldn't live there. Okay, what about the part where Mina said that her sister would help her dispose of a body? I'm pretty sure I've asked you and you've said no, right? No, I'll help you. You would? It'll eat me alive. I don't know how much help I would be, honestly, but I'll try. I was thinking the same thing. I don't know if I'm capable. And I have, like, a couple caveats. Like, would our... If we work together and we found out, would our prison cells be next to each other? Can we call and arrange prison cells next to each other? Adjoining cells. Yeah, adjoining cells. Because I feel like people are very productive in prison. They get in shape. They get like 10 degrees. Like we could like, you know, we would come out with like the best bods and like 10 degrees and we could like get paid for speaking engagements. So I think that, you know, we really, you know. Maybe if we went to jail and had adjoining cells, people would actually listen to this podcast i like that mina needed to clarify that they haven't killed a person they she is so cute and now that i know she has a sister like that i love her even more i she's really growing on me i thought that the whole scene of them trying on her dress and um her sister alex presenting the necklace and some uh earrings yeah Statement earrings. I'm not sure I support. The earrings were statement earrings for sure. The earrings were a choice. But if they were her mom's earrings, then obviously like I get it. Oh, is that what they were? I'm not sure. If they were, then they're great. If they aren't, lose them. Immediately. Immediately. And then the little locket charm that goes on her bouquet with the locket of her parents was really sweet.

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That's her dad passed, as well as her mom. That's the vibe I got. I'm not sure if we ever were explicitly told, but that's the vibe I got. It's just so sad, and it's just so sad. Her and Joan really both, that they have to get married without their families. That's got to be so hard. Yeah. Although I think Mina's sister, she's going to be in attendance. Thank God. It's easier to get to America for visits from Paris than... Yeah, Uganda. Yeah. than Uganda. Did you notice when, back to Joan, when she came out in her dress and her sister was watching on FaceTime, her compliment, the first words out of her mouth were, you're so smart and so pretty. I kind of loved that. I did, that did give me pause to be like, is this the time to compliment her intelligence? I'm not sure. Maybe the dress just made her look really smart. Something about those lace sleeves. Something about that twerking. Oh, yeah, the twerking. Oh, my gosh. And it's funny. She she talks about wanting to twerk with the most like even keeled straight face. Yeah, there's like nothing there. But she's like saying the funniest things. It's so weird. Yeah, I want my dress to look good when I twerk. Let's see. Anything else? I did wonder when they took Alex to the house in New Hampshire, she said she was afraid of the flies. How many flies are there in New Hampshire? I've never been, but like... Well, if you're out in the evening in the summer, the mosquitoes, the fruit flies, like even here in LA, like the mosquitoes and the fruit flies when you're taking a walk, those like herds of fruit flies... Or whatever they are that are in the swarms. The gnats. They have a lot of those here. That's what they are. In Jersey, too. Yeah. Well, because then I was like, are there just like not bugs in Paris? And I've never been to Paris either, but I've been to London a number of times and I don't really recall seeing a lot of bugs, actually. So maybe there aren't any. Maybe bugs are a new experience for them. Yeah. Maybe there's not a bug. That's just like why Europe, recent 700 million, why Europe is better. Truly. Zero bugs. Add it to the list. I don't remember ever seeing a bug in Italy. I'm sure I didn't. Not a one. I don't know. I don't know. So did you get to catch up on any 90 Day Diaries? Uh, no. I can tell you a couple things. Okay. Well, in the 90 Day Universe, we now have two comedians in our midst, in our universe. Sarper, obviously, and... Any guesses?

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You're gonna die. Clayton. Does he make guinea pig noises? In his set. He did not in his set. He practices in a room with padded walls that Annalise says looks like an asylum. Yep. And he's like, I have a bar stool, which is pretty common in comedy clubs. So he knows his stuff. And then he got booked for his first headlining gig in Ohio. So he was really nervous in this gig. There was not a stage. There was not a backdrop. He just stood in front of, like, it seemed to be at a brewery, and he just stood in front of a big vat of beer and some dartboards. And his comedy... How can I explain this? So, at first, no one laughed of a crowd of what sounded about five people. I don't know. And Annalie even pointed out that there was no laughter. Eventually, he did get a couple laughs. Like, were his jokes funny? They were, like... Maybe like a three. Was he funnier than Sarper? Yes. That's great. That's not fair because Sarper doesn't, isn't as comfortable with the English language as Clayton. I don't know. Sarper seems pretty comfy. I think Clayton could improve, but like nothing about him said comedy before yesterday when I watched this. If anybody should be telling jokes, it's Manuel. Why mommy in closet? manuel and ashley um are not doing well she doesn't even know if she wants to be in this marriage because he doesn't care about her but oh he doesn't care about her and her workout competitions but he says she doesn't care about him because he doesn't want her to have muscles so i don't know we left things unclear we'll see where that goes we got some liz and big ed separately and Oh, God. Liz told a very disturbing story about how she and Big Ed had sex in a sauna for a couple hours. And she got a UTI. I'm gonna barf. That man had to have some serious drugs to be able to have sex for a couple hours. And I'm surprised he didn't have a heart attack in a sauna. That's a heart attack waiting to happen. That's a deadly combination. Yeah, like, so we were in Mexico. We went to this. If you're gonna say you had sex in a sauna, that is TMI. No, quite the opposite. Like the beginning of the session, you sit in a sauna and then you get in a cold plunge right after, but you sit in the sauna for like eight minutes. Dude, I could not make it past five. I was like, I'm going to pass away. I can't do anything in here except think about how I'm about to die. So how did Big Ed last for so long? I don't know. He thrusted for hours in those conditions. And he's not a healthy man. No, God, no. I'm shocked that didn't take him out. Like, and just even trying to think of the position. I don't, I can't go there. I don't want to. He's so gross. So Big Ed was also featured. He has, like, three hot friends that are girls, allegedly. He went on his first blind date with someone his own age who was very pretty. And she looked like Tara Reade, but, like, prettier. Like, more normal and, you know. Not to say anything bad about Tara Reid, but less work, less work done, less whatever is going on there. They took a limo to a haunted house, which honestly I thought was a pretty great first date idea because you get to cuddle. You can see if he's like protective of you. That is a good idea. I like it. Also, I forgot to mention, you know how he like got engaged for like a day at a restaurant? He did mention that about how it was serious, but then it went viral and she got scared. I don't know what to make of that. But in this case, the woman did say that she would go on another date with him and it could be to get on TV, which begs the question, like, would you go on a date with Big Ed to get on TV? No. Oh, okay. My follow-up question was going to be how far would you go and would you get in a hot tub with him? Okay, well, back at you. I would go on a date with him to get on TV, definitely. And I would get in a hot tub with him because remember, like, this isn't even about the date. It's remember on that some show they all got in a hot tub together and they were fighting and splashing each other. With Big Ed, though? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like a tell-all in a house. So would you have gotten in the hot tub with him? Yeah, if I wasn't on a date. No, I don't think I could go in a hot tub with him on a date. I just meant in general. Honestly, I don't know that I could even get in a hot tub with him with his shirt off. I don't think I could do it. I don't think I could stomach it. Like, because we have a friend that considers hot tubs to be human soup, and I don't want to be in human soup with Big Ed shirtless. I mean. With his bodily fluids. No. No. I would do it to be on TV. Well, you're braver than I. To be on a reality show. Actually, I take it back because if I'm going to be on a reality show, I want it to be classy or I want it to be Bravo. I'm not that desperate. Maybe in my 20s. Yeah. But I'm mature. I'm mature. We are mature for TLC at this point in our lives. Put us on the Valley, bitch. Put you on the Valley. Put me as a friend of on Jersey if it ever comes back. That's my new goal in life. Okay, I guess I can hope for that for you. Thank you. Any other thoughts on TLC? I don't think so. Should we set like a goal or an objective for next week? Like maybe just watch some Mormon Wives? Yeah, definitely. That's my goal. I think it's a safe goal. Yeah. I don't think I'll be as far along as you, but I'll try my best. Well, we have a long weekend ahead. Are you going to get any rotting in? No. None? What are you doing all weekend? I'm booked solid. I'm going to be busy for the weekend, and I actually have to do some work on Monday, unfortunately. No! I do. Are you continuing your bathroom renovation this weekend? I will be in the bathroom, surely. You'll take to the bathroom. I will take to the bathroom. I won't be on the toilet. I'll be in the tub. So I guess... Tiling. Not rotting in the tub. Tiling in the tub. Tiling in the tub. I have not a single plan for the whole weekend. All three days? All three days. I think actually, so I'm on this low-carb journey, on a fertility journey. I have PCOS, and we're trying to figure that out. And so I'm allowing myself two cheat meals a month, and one of those is coming up this weekend. So I haven't decided if it's going to be Italian or sushi, because I haven't had pasta or rice in a while, so... It's going to be one of those, but I haven't decided which. So that's really the only thing I have on the books for the weekend. Maybe some yard work in our garden. I think if it's not pasta, you'll regret it. I think it needs to be pasta. You know, I was thinking that too, but I will say. So I've tried a couple alternatives and I tried like the chickpea pasta and the lentil pasta really does a good job. The texture is pretty close and... It seems to be satisfying that craving pretty well. Anyway. So that's it. It's been a pleasure spending seven hours with you trying to troubleshoot before we got here. I've watched the sun go down in your room and it's now dark in there. I'm sitting here in the dark sweating my ass off because I turned off the air conditioning all in an attempt to make this work. And we did. We did. We did. I don't know. The sun is actually still out. I just had to close the curtains because we thought that for some reason it might help. It did help. Anyway, we won't bore you with our technical difficulties any longer and hopefully by next week we'll have that figured out. But in the meantime... Hopefully next week it will be crisp and clear as I intended. And if it is not, just know it wasn't for lack of trying. Yeah. In the meantime, thanks everyone for rotting with us. We'll see you next week.

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