4 - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, RHOA, The Valley, Love Hotel, 90 Day Fiancé

Madelyn and Lil get caught up on Secret Lives of Mormon wives, finally! They also debate the Walton Goggins and Aimee Lou Wood scandal (or lack-there of), in addition to the currently airing shows (Real Housewives of Atlanta, The Valley, Love Hotel, and 90 Day Fiancé). All that plus some infertility realness, 90 Day Hunt for Love chat, and Madelyn pleading her case on why Hacks is the best show on TV!

Transcript

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Welcome to Rather Be Rotting, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive dissect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be rotting. Hello. Hi, Lil. How's it going? You know, it's going. I got an accidental haircut that makes me look kind of like a surfer dude. I don't think that at all. I think it looks cute. Gee, thanks. You had a lot of dead ends that had to go. Apparently, half of my hair was dead ends, according to the woman who chopped it off. When was the last time you had gotten a haircut? There'd be no way of knowing. Well, then I guess I'm not surprised. What's new with you? Anything? You know, I do just want to say, because I have recently been having a lot of feelings. June is Infertility Awareness Month. So I want to shout out all the girls who are also struggling with infertility. I just have a lot of emotions these days about it, I guess. I don't know. It's very all-consuming. It's such a serious topic, but the way you set it up with, I just have a lot of feelings. Like, why did you have to quote mean girls to make me start giggling? Why not? Just to make me look like an asshole when you're talking about a serious topic. Yeah, I could look, I saw you laughing at me and I was like, Well, that's awfully rude. You didn't know it was because you quoted Mean Girls? No. Well, I thought you could roll with it. There you have it. Anyway, that's what I've been dealing with lately. It's been a little all-consuming these days, so. I'm sorry, Lil. I think there's going to be a light at the end of the tunnel. Sooner than later. I really hope so. I think I just, you know, I resonate with the girls who, if you know, you know. You know, like going to the doctor. every other day or every day to have more blood taken or another thing shoved up your vagina to see what's going on just like over and over and over and trying to plan your life around your ovaries is stressful and taxing and yeah like your body's a science experiment yeah and you're kind of a slave to whatever has to happen to accomplish this goal Like if your partner is out of town for work or something at the wrong time, the whole month and everything that you've done for that month is shot. It's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of stress. And we're not even yet at the phase where we're having to move on to IVF yet. And I don't want to get there, but I just have a lot of empathy and sympathy for, you know, any woman.

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Yeah.

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We're sending love and positive vibes to any woman going through that. You, I believe, we are on the right track now. Yep. And things are going to start looking up. Fingers crossed. And otherwise, like in pop culture, personally, I feel like it's been a little quiet this week, but you could tell me if I'm wrong. Well, something broke. Something just broke that we're recording a little bit early, so this won't have just happened. But the Walton Goggins, Amy Lou Wood feud? Yes. Did you see they gave a joint interview? Yeah. No. So that was kind of something that I was like a little bit obsessed with. What did they say? So they gave the interview to Variety and he says there's no feud. He loves her madly and that his he was getting emotional and they were like holding hands and hugging and whatnot. And he said that unfollowing her was his way of processing like what they went to like he needed to process saying goodbye to Rick and Chelsea because he loves them more than anything so I guess that's just what he does when he finishes a project he said he did that on past projects so I guess he's gonna have to cut things off with Danny McBride because Righteous Gemstones is over too I hope that you know they don't have to do a tearful interview but I guess he told her ahead of time I'm gonna do this and she was very supportive He said he hadn't, before this interview, he hadn't talked to anyone from the cast. And that tracks because they were like out at a premiere viewing event, maybe for the finale, and he wasn't there. And everyone thought that was because of the feud. But it could just be because of his process. And then as for that New York Times interview that he stormed out of, and he said like, F this, because they asked about her. He says that they asked about her like three different times. And he didn't want to speak for her. And then I guess that reporter even asked him, like, did you guys bond over your teeth? Which he thought was like really offensive. And I agree. Yeah. That, I guess we can, you know, put a button on that, close the loop. Do you think that it's all true or do you think they hooked up? I think that, I mean, I have no reason not to believe what he's saying. He has a wife. I know, but that's why it's so scandalous. Let's see, I watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives half the episodes. Okay, so what was the last, what was happening? Where did you leave off? So Taylor and Dakota decided to separate, which was good. My main question is, why don't any of these women use protection? Yeah, really, speaking of infertility, that's a bunch who doesn't suffer with it. Actually, later on in the season, there is some Some stuff that goes down surrounding one of them who can't get pregnant. Macy. Yeah, no, Demi. Oh, really? Yeah, and they play, you'll get there, but they play pregnancy roulette. Have you seen that? No. So basically pregnancy roulette is when you're with a group of girls and everybody takes a pregnancy test and then you put them all in a cup and mix them all around and then you pull them out and see like how many are positive and you don't know whose is whose. Why would they be positive? Like, why would they just randomly be positive? That's, like, clearly a setup. Yes, because, I mean, do you want me to spoil it for you? Well, I know Jen is pregnant. She's not involved in this. Okay, well, then let's table that. Okay, well, it just, it's kind of a cruel thing that I feel like production shouldn't have let happen, but we'll get there when you get there. Something else I think is kind of cruel is how they're treating Jen right now. I mean, she's obviously going through it with her marriage. Can't they just leave the poor girl alone? She's also like 25 or 26. The rest of these women are well in their 30s. She's so young. I thought that, what about Layla? Layla looks like she's 21. She might be in her 20s also, but then they're the two youngest. Everybody else is in their 30s. Taylor Frankie Paul. Yes, I think she's, I think she's, I think she's 32. That is stunning. I assumed all these girls were 22. Nope. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, and she's just going through such adult things and horrible things. I mean, I don't know why she couldn't use birth control. That's, again, you know. Do you have any other thoughts? Yes. So, Jen, not Jen, Taylor, I cannot believe her parents straight up called her a hoe. Her dad is horrible. Horrible. Horrible. And mom. And mom. To slut shame that way is so misogynistic. Like, I wanted to reach through the screen and smack them both. That poor girl. And she's, like, thinks she has issues to work on. And I hope she doesn't think that, like, she's a slut. No, the issue is them. The issue is the people that raised her. Yes. And if they want to take a crack at anything, again... He could have worn a condom. Exactly. Like if we're going to, if we're going to shame anyone for anything, it's the birth control. Not that she had sex with him after knowing him for a day or whatever the situation was like. It's a woman's right. It's a woman's right. And obviously they're not blaming him for the fact that he was like doing it with another girl at the same time. No, but somehow she brought it upon herself. No, but also they weren't like exclusive. I know. Either way, those parents, I hope they're getting a lot of, A lot of backlash. I think they are. Good. But back to your point about Jen, I do feel bad for her, the way they're treating her, but she got herself into this situation because I feel like she, this is the problem when you go vent to your friends in the heat of the moment about your marriage and they'll remember that, but you won't. And then when it comes time to defend your partner, they're going to be like, Wait a minute. I thought we hated him. What are you talking about? And she also... has lied. She's put her husband in this position where he goes to have whatever soda with Demi and Jesse and like I guess apologize just to find out that she was saying all kinds of stuff that wasn't true about him and they don't know why she would do that on national TV and think he wasn't going to see it. Like the gambling his money away for medical school. He said that wasn't true. Why would she say that? That's weird. It probably is true, Lil. But then she's going back because she doesn't want him in private to have tear her a new one he's obviously like verbally abusive and controlling and terrible so she's like lying to cover her ass she said too much just like you said she said too much on camera and now she has to backpedal I guess so and it's just like I thought the Ben Affleck of it all was funny like that is funny I can imagine being at the family Thanksgiving and the family being oh yeah we're related to the Afflecks hilarious and her being like they said it It's true. She said it to the media for sure. Yeah. So she, I think she's just also naive. Yeah. She's young and like we all, they just need to cut her some slack. I have thoughts about Layla getting so specific about her sex life with a pastor's son or something talking about like how she wants him to give her an orgasm. I couldn't believe she never had. She never had one. I know, but it's like his parents are going to watch this. Your parents are going to watch this. Like that's horrifying. Like, yeah, it is horrifying, but, like, for our reality TV stars, this is the level of transparency we require of them. That's true, so we should applaud her. We should applaud her, which I do, and I also think if you're the person in this circumstance, just tell your parents to skip that episode. Yeah, that's smart. You're right. Or, like, if you're, like, an actress and you have to get naked. Yeah, just skip from this minute to this minute. Skip it. Arnold Schwarzenegger certainly didn't skip The White Lotus because he straight up told Patrick that he saw his weenie. An exact quote. It's Whitney. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. I saw your weenie. I think he enjoyed it because he's like, because I guess Arnold got naked for something and he's like, oh, he's following in my footsteps a little too closely. He's following in my footsteps. How's this accent? It is something. Oh, one more thought about Mormon wives is that Whitney named her kid baby Billy. Oh my God. Every time she says Billy, I'm like, that's not a name for a baby. She called him Baby Billy. You know they don't watch Righteous Gemstones. They'd be so offended by it. Oh, my God. I was dying. She was like, but you're going to come to the shower for Baby Billy, right? Did you see the shower? Not yet. Okay. But I died. And that's twice Righteous Gemstones. Walton Goggins has been referenced. He's infiltrating your week in a big way. He infiltrated a lot of my weeks in the White Lotus series. peak yeah because you know there was like the big internet discourse over is this guy hot or not what do you think i'm gonna vote overall no maybe like one time out of ten i think he is a little so i saw an ai generated image of him with a lower hairline and much better but the teeth i've never once noticed his teeth they're all i look at in both shows what's wrong with his teeth They're massive. They're huge. They're like when he's talking, it's like all you can see. Maybe I don't notice because his forehead is so big that it's like my eyes and brain can't focus on one massive or two massive things. Dude, I don't know. It was way more distracting than the forehead for me, honestly. It hasn't bothered me at all. Wow. Well, that's okay. We're bothered by different things. Yeah. You want to move on to the Bravoverse?

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Yes.

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I do. Tell me your thought right off the top. So, the Valley cast, some of them, were featured prominently at a local watering hole that we have frequented many times. We love! Our favorite bar, Thirsty Merchant, in... Is it technically in North Hollywood or is it technically in Studio City? Valley Village, I believe. Valley Village. Yeah, shout out to Thirsty Merchant. If you want a big pretzel, some really good truffle mac and cheese. If you want to play some cornhole. A great happy hour two for one. Beer chalices. Chalices of beer. Bring some Uno. Have a good time. Good vibes. We love it. To see them there at one of our favorite spots was truly a thrill. It was heartwarming and I hope to see them there again in real life sometime soon. That's the fun thing about watching The Valley is like last week we didn't touch on this, but they were at Heavy Handed getting burgers. They didn't get any ice cream, though. Heavy Handed is like burgers and they have soft serve, the most delicious soft serve. I do believe it's a chain. Oh, well, there's one in studio. It was very clear they were at the one in studio. Very clear. There are a lot of spots there. It's fun to watch. It's fun to see them in other local places. I don't know why we've never happened upon them while they're filming, but maybe in the future we can remedy that. I've happened upon some of them not filming. Who amongst? Who amongst? Beverly Hills is the same way. You know, I like to watch it because I recognize a lot of the spots. And if sometimes I'll be like, oh, that's a new restaurant I should try. Yeah, we've been known to rewind and write it down so we can add it to our list of places to go to. That was the most exciting thing that I saw was our special bar. The second most exciting thing I saw was Sheena and Brock's new home. Yes. And them coming to the beach saying, we don't live here anymore. So it took us forever to get here. And I had to talk to Sheena Chase, complaining that nobody would come to Marina Del Rey to see her. That was awesome. And they bought a house in Sherman Oaks that looks just like all the other ones. Sure does. I mean, I would take it. I would take it. Sheena... for some reason like I love I love her but she's just coming across like a little desperate from for me she is and she like threw a bunch of shade on her husband for having a small dick she sure did that was so awkward that woman that's what I'm saying like she will do and say anything to stay on the show like she's just trying to say things to grab attention so that they'll keep bringing her back I feel It's working for me. I just think that's how she is though. I think she just doesn't think about it until she sees it after and she's like, oh. And this is why she should host Love Hotel. She should. I love that for her. I have a question. So I'm losing some of the threads in these fights, but like there was one fight over someone named Jared. Who is that gentleman? I can't recall. Do you have context as to how Jared was involved in a fight? Something about they're just fighting over, like, who needs to apologize to who. And you, Jared, took your side and my side. I'm assuming he's just an off-camera friend. An off-camera entity that we haven't seen. But, like, can we leave him out of it? Because I'm having enough trouble following. I'm losing the thread, too, a little bit. Especially with Jana being mad at Kristen. Because, as they showed in the flashback... Luke and Kristen sat there and brought this information to Jason directly. So why is she holding a grudge against Kristen? And why is Jasmine so mad at Janet? Because Janet's calling her a bad friend for spreading the lies about Jason's wedding ring. Got it. Well, then Janet has a right to be mad about that, does she not? She does. She could laugh it off like a normal person, but this is reality TV. What I thought was interesting is... In one of the confessionals, Brittany said, I don't see Janet as like a pot stirrer that everybody thinks she is. And I'm like, literally how? Yeah, because she could have laughed that off. All she does is try to create drama. And somebody handed her some on a silver platter. So she's going to dig her heels in as far as they can go. But it was interesting. And I liked seeing Jason activated. I've never seen him like that before. That was interesting. Earn that paycheck, bruh. Another shocking. Every time I see Brittany's mom, I'm never not stunned to see her in her new form. Why? Don't you recall from Vanderpump? The woman's eating Ozempic like candy. I know that's not how it's injected, but you know. I don't know. I feel like that's been like a gradual thing over the years. She is a shell of her former self. All she's left is just some long black hair and bangs. And some big veneers. Well, you know, she's been LA-ified, Hollywood-ified. It's just never not shocking when she appears on the screen. I'm always like, oh! Well, something that shocked me was seeing the flashback to Britney's face last year. I forgot how bad her mouth was downturned because of her botched neck lift. It was so bad. She also still hasn't, whoever's injecting her Botox needs to calm down on the brows. oh my god they're halfway up her forehead but they have been for years you can fix that

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why hasn't

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i know you can i don't know because i went to get so i got disport for the first time on monday normally i get botox but it wears off i my botox wears off in like a month like it goes away so fast even when i say freeze me to high heaven so when i went to get disport i told them I want to be frozen solid, but also I don't want my eyebrows to be like Whitney from Salt Lake City, just traveling further and further towards my hairline on the end. And they said, if you feel lifted on the end, come right back and we'll fix it. We can't lift them once they've drooped, but if they're too high, we can lower them. So it leads me to wonder why Brittany isn't taking advantage of that. I don't think she knows how bad they look, even though it's like you see yourself on TV. I think someone should tell her and I would like it. This is a PSA right now for anyone listening. If you know me in person and my Botox looks horrible, please tell me. Same. I've been there before. Luckily, I recognized it all myself. You got discount Botox. Was it a Groupon? Actually, the discount Botox wasn't the problem. It was a very reputable injector, but I'm not going to name names here. No, we won't. We won't name names here for that specifically only for good shout outs. But so what is it that happened when you got, cause I thought it was that you got a group on or something and they did a terrible job. She just did too much. So she did my eyebrows too much. She did, um, I think my eyes, like my crow's feet, if you do too much on the crow's feet, it kind of messes with your smile. And then to top it all off, I got gummy smile Botox, which lowers your bottom lip. She's making a lot of mouth motions. And it lowered it too much to where I couldn't even smile. I could not smile. And in the picture that is the infamous picture of this incident, or the only proof we have of what happened. My favorite picture. I was... Squinting because the sun was in my eyes also. So it was just like the perfect storm of a terrifying face. Leading to the perfect picture. A Disney villain. Yeah, it was great. But luckily it wears off. Jax also partakes in the talks. Oh, yeah. Yes. But he didn't have any in rehab, but he did have access to all of his cameras in his house, apparently. Do you think he really, like, bugged them and could hear her? Or do you think he could just see that the cameras were there and assumed she was talking about him? How do you think he could see the cameras were there? Well, they have, she said they have cameras, but there's no sound unless he bugged them. But she covered the cameras anyway. Do you think that he saw something and took a wild guess that they were talking about him? Probably. But, like, what are the odds that he would be correct? Maybe the camera does have sound and she just doesn't know it. She's not the brightest bulb. Yeah. With love, respectfully. Yeah. I don't know. Do you think his chat with... Who called him? Jason? Yeah. Was it sincere? No, because then he talked... Then he went right back around and was... shitting on britney he's still a monster like he needs to not be on bravo he needs to not be on bravo the way i felt when the season started is the way i still feel bravo shouldn't be showing this they shouldn't be giving him any air time it's not good for anyone involved because the only reason he went to rehab was because he was afraid he would lose his spot on the show 100 but it doesn't count if you go and you don't fix yourself Yeah, I just have an icky feeling about him being there in general. I don't think it was the right move. And I don't think we need him. No comment. Okay. I will say it is shocking how he seemed like such a changed man on the phone with Jason. And then who knows how much later, maybe one day, he was a terror again. This is truly what a psychopath does, though. Yeah. He's not done. He's not done on his journey yet. And that's probably why Brittany in the media has been saying, I don't believe him. I don't believe him. Yeah, this is, it's addict behavior. It appears as addict behavior where you can't tell if anything they're saying is true, ever. Well, he's open about his cocaine addiction, but I don't know if that's still the problem or if it's like his bipolar disorder. Any number of things. That causes him to go from one love extreme to the next. We're not doctors. We're speculating. No. Absolutely not. Thank you for that. I think it's whatever it is. Sociopathy. Psychopathology. I don't know. Whatever he is. He's not well. He's unwell. That's all I had for the Valley. Did you have any more thoughts? No. What about Atlanta? Atlanta was great. Phaedra's in the title card now. I'm so happy to have her. Me too. Oh my gosh. She just brings like this airiness. Did you catch what she said about Angela? The oldest looking young woman I've ever met? Yes, and then she said hopefully her personality is more youthful than her face. I... This is why I love Phaedra. I was dead. But then I did Google how old Angela is. I was just about to. She's 43, allegedly. But there are, like, inconsistent reports. And I don't think she looks 43. But that would track with what Phaedra said about her being the... Oldest looking young person. I just thought that was so funny. Like she's back at it again. Did it take long? Yeah. And then she like didn't even care that she was rooming with someone she never met on the trip. She's like, I love a stranger. I love a stranger. I would love to room with Phaedra. Put me in a room with Phaedra, please. Or Shamia because Shamia was in great spirits even though her bag was still in Atlanta, which if I'm on a trip to Grenada and I don't have my suitcase... I mean, I know I would be a bitch. I know so many people who would be bitches about that. I feel if that had happened to Portia or Britt or maybe even Cynthia, it would have been a way bigger deal. But, like, Shamia or Kelly or Drew. But, like, I feel like Shamia and Kelly would have been like, whatever. She's just like. Everybody else. She's like, I'm not going to have this ruin my time. I'm going to have fun. But I can't get the crotch too dirty because I don't know what I'm going to get another pair. She's so funny. God, her spirits were so high. She's an inspiration to all of us. Like if our suitcases ever get lost. Just be a Shamia. I liked, well, I didn't, I found interesting this scene where Portia and Drew went to tea and just like my biggest takeaway from that was Drew just making such a fuss about needing the right tea for her vocal cords because of all the singing she'd been doing. I just was like, my eyes can't roll any further back into my head right now. I'm not going to lie to you. I don't think I saw that part. You didn't miss anything other than her making a big fuss to the waitress about how she needs this tea because her, she needed the ginger. They didn't have it, but she was like, oh, I needed that ginger for my vocal cords because, you know, I've just been using them so much singing. She needs to protect those vocal cords. They're going to pay for Pilar's college. Yep. But their trip seems like it's getting off to a great start. Yeah, I liked Portia's attitude. She's like, basically, I'm in Grenada. I can have a good time with whoever because of where we are. I like that. I also loved, loved, loved that Britt barely donated anything. And I know she's about to get so much shade for it. Yes, because they showed it in the preview. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. She barely filled that box. I could have filled more in that box. Seriously. Well, it's like, I know these housewives, they don't always have a lot of money. Lisa Rinna said that they have to pay for all the events they throw themselves and all their outfits. Then I don't want them as a housewife. That's not what I'm here for. No more broke bitches. Like, I love Gina from Orange County and she's like the only exception because she's grown on me after all this time. But, you know, I don't... No casitas, please. Well, I like having a range because I feel like I love to see Shamia's, you know, fabulous house. But having Brit, like, say, like, not everyone invited to my party gets a full meal. Like, that's funny. That's good TV. What did Shamia say? I do remember that I left your event hungry. Yes. Oh, my God. It was such a good episode. It was really good. Any other thoughts on Atlanta? Nope. I think we can move on to the Love Hotel. I mean, if there's anything even worth talking about, which, like, it's not really. Yeah, I just, I'm over that show. It just felt so fake, too, bringing in their friends. Like, really nobody else but Cynthia Bailey could come in for Luann. I mean, yeah, that was crazy. Like, bring in Sonia. Sonia. Yeah, like, that just felt weird. Where's Victoria? She don't want to participate? Of course she didn't want to participate. Or Noel? Is he still busy breakdancing? Well, you know what's funny? She said this episode that she always wanted another child, a third child. And I was like, really? You wanted to not parent three kids? Correct. She did. I mean, I guess if you're not parenting, who's counting? Well, I can tell you one thing I noticed was that you were right. The guy, the singer with the big dick is a serial killer. Told you. I told you. He was scary. Yes. And the way he was hanging all over Cynthia, I was like, gross. Well, Luanne thought it was gross, too. She should have, like, sent him home right then. I would send him home after he said he loved her. Joel Kim Booster needs to step in. Do something. Sheena would step in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She would say, this is not okay. The way that you were hanging on her is not okay. And the way that you are saying you love her is actually a little alarming. That was a pretty good impression. Really? Yeah. Well, I feel like I don't have her voice, but I at least have her, like, her tone. That was pretty good. Yeah, I liked it. Her cadence. Yeah. And then the only other thing I noticed was that I'm definitely team Earl now because I noticed that he was dancing on the boat and Shannon was like bitching at him for having a shirt unbuttoned on a boat in the water. That was weird. That was weird. There is something jammed so far up that lady's ass. Like, what can we do? To help this poor woman. She's the most uptight woman I've ever seen. 100%. I was like, do you expect him to keep his shirt on when he jumps in the water? I could not believe. It was very weird. Are you just fishing for stuff? I don't know. I clocked that too. That's about all I clocked. What about you? Yeah, the episode was uneventful. I'm sick of this show. I hope we're almost done. Over in the 90-day universe, so shit is getting real. I want to start with the throuple because we forgot about them last week. Blanket apology. They were in the episode. We did not cover them. Because they were not worth covering. We subconsciously decided. Brenda, last episode, opened up about her abusive husband and we ignored it. Apologies to Brenda slash Annie. Sorry. Sorry. So sorry. It feels so fake to me because if this very conservative religious auntie is as described to come around and just accept it so randomly, so quickly. I'm like, what are we doing here? It was so anticlimactic. I could not believe. I'm just sick of them. Me too. I'm sick of their shit. Yeah. And I also think It's funny to me how on the next episode, it looks like they're going to let her choose who to marry. Cause like they have to get divorced so she can marry one of them. And if I were her, like I, I was also talking to a coworker about this today. I don't think that Matt really even wants to be involved in this at all. I think he just like, doesn't want to not be with Amani Amini anymore. So he's just going along with it, but really it's just like these two chicks in a relationship and he's there. Yeah, I think she's definitely going to pick to marry her and then they'll just squeeze him out. He's also the one who makes the money. Why? What does he do? I don't think anything. But in the beginning of the season, they talked about how she's in tech sales or something and makes all kinds of money. And they send it to Ray. Yeah. That troll. Did you know that once I asked mom how she would feel if I were suddenly deciding to join a thruple? Did this come from watching an episode of Say Yes to the Dress? It did. What'd she say? I watched a Say Yes to the Dress episode with a throuple, so it just inspired me to see if, you know, mom would be open-minded. And she said, first she said it depends on the person, or I guess she meant people. And then she said, if you're happy, I'm happy, but it's not for me, which I think is fair. Totally. Pretty, like, generic reaction. I can see mom being supportive and I can see dad being supportive, but never not making jokes about it. Well, he can't control himself. Yeah. That's all I got for them. Sorry that we didn't cover them. And I'm sorry that we're not really covering them. That's just all the energy we have for those three. But who do you want to move on to next? I thought there was so much going on. Do you want to talk about Shekinah and Sarper real quick? Because they didn't really have much. Yeah, I also thought that that was ridiculous. He basically just ran away because he feels overwhelmed. What I did think was funny is when he called his family to tell them what was going on and was spelling out the weight clause that he wanted to put in the prenup. They just laughed at him like, oh, clever, creative Sarper. Like they know. Yeah, man. And they're like, that's amazing creativity. I can imagine throughout his whole life. He's probably had crazy ass ideas and thoughts like this and never any of them come to fruition. So they've along the way just always been like, They're there, creative Sarper. Look at you. Is that the vibe you got? I got the vibe that they actually thought it was a great idea. Not at all. I got the vibe that it was like, aw, shucks, crazy Sarper. You and your weight claws. They didn't give me much, but they did give me a great idea for you. Oh? I'm already married. Yeah. Put a neotag on that bitch. Oh. That man, you can't track him because he doesn't have an iPhone. He disappears more than anyone I know. I feel like we spend half our lives searching for that man. We do. And a lot of time would be spared and spent more usefully watching more shows if we put an air tag on him. I could do a lot more rotting if I had air tagged him. Just on his keys, just like Shekinah. She's onto something. Yeah, but he's not as dumb as Sarper. He'd notice that I put an air tag there, unfortunately. Maybe if I snuck one in his wallet or in the car, but when he's drinking, he's not in the car. Exactly. And that's when he goes missing the most. Yeah, because his favorite thing to say is that he enjoys the drinks when they start tasting like running away from his friends.

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And then that's what he does. That was pretty much it for... I mean, they're obviously going to get married. They got tattoos on their necks. Like, who are we kidding? He still lives here, yes. He's still in LA. That one's kind of just like a non... The jig is up. Yeah. Let's just quickly touch on Juan and Jessica. I think that I have two feelings. One, I think he's very valid for wanting her to learn Spanish and his son to learn Spanish. I agree. I also think she's very valid in that she's been single parenting. I agree. I agree. And time goes so fast. Life just gets in the way. We all have goals that we want to achieve that we just are going to get to tomorrow, you know? Yeah. And for him to put this ultimatum on it, like, what do you want her to do? Learn it tonight? Well, I think that he just wants her to say in earnest and swear on David's life or something that she's going to learn. If I was Jessica, I would just download Duolingo, show him I have the app, and move along with my life. No, because then she's still not going to know it. I would tell him, you know, it's very hard to learn a language as an adult, but I want to try for you. And I'm going to try my best. And she should, maybe I'll devote half an hour to Duolingo a day or something. I don't know, like a compromise. She's going to try her breast. She's going to try her breast. And... I think that what she could do is at least learn more about his culture. I think he had a very valid argument there. She doesn't know anything and she doesn't care to. And he makes a great point that he doesn't want to raise his son not knowing about his culture. 100% agreed. So if anything, like that is an argument. But and also I thought, is there an immersion program they can put the child in so he can learn Spanish? Totally. And now that the now that Juan is there, he should be. What do I know? I'm not bilingual, but he should be speaking exclusively to that kid in Spanish. Well, I'm sure he will. But then she's not going to know what he's talking to him about. That doesn't matter. I've seen this with friends I have that are bilingual. Like I have one couple friend who has a kid and the mom speaks to her only in Spanish and the dad speaks in English. And that way it's just second nature to them. Yeah. Their brains are like forming. They can learn better. So I do. I see both sides of that. For sure. Yeah, me too. But it doesn't need to be so harsh ultimatums. Like that's unnecessary. I think he's just freaking out. Yeah. Sean and Aaliyah. I'm sorry. There is literally no excuse for Aaliyah to be that late. What was it like two hours? It was, I think an hour and a half. Everyone was sitting in the 104 degree Sonoma sun. The layer, the level of chaos. I mean, I was having a physical reaction. Like I felt like my chest was getting tight from frustration and anger on Sean's behalf. I just like, and the other thing that really bothers me is that she's joking about it while she's getting ready she knows it takes her so long to get ready why didn't you start at 5 a.m she said that she was this not today this today i'm leaving myself plenty of time so what happened what happened and whoever that friend was was not helping and why wasn't that crazy girl yeah yeah cackling witch i was just gonna say cackling witch you don't have that much time why wasn't that friend texting sean updates Why wasn't that friend saying, what can I do to help you and move this along? That was outrageous. And that dog, it was too hot for that dog to be outside. That friend wants to sabotage that wedding. That friend is deranged because when Aaliyah finally did show up and Sean was clearly, understandably super mad, she's like, nice suit, nice sparkly suit. And he was like, great. You can know, she said, I like your sparkly suit. And he said, great. You can watch me drive away in it, which I thought was great, but she is deranged. I cannot imagine again. I don't mean to always bring it back to myself, but this is how I relate. I've planned a wedding and throughout the whole wedding planning process, I was racked with like pre guilt that I wanted my guests to have the very best experience. Like it was all I could make sure to have happen the thought of having people waiting for me for that long I would rather die like where is your care for other human beings that have shown up on this day for you and the fact that she did it before and he talked to her about it and she didn't learn a lesson like what is wrong with her I feel like I've lost all my respect for her any amount of sympathy or respect for anything for her this whole time is just gone now Because even when she was ready to go, she spent time twirling in the mirror. Yeah. Just fucking around her dress that I thought, I mean, that dress, that dress was crazy. Can we just take a minute? Like that dress was see-through. She was wearing white, bright white panties, not even flesh color panties that would blend into the dress. So you, you look and it's like nude, nude, nude all the way down with like glaring white panties in the middle. Did you forget? To get the nude Spanx for that? It was as if Giovanni made a swimsuit cover-up. Yeah. And I couldn't help but wonder, yeah, is it meant to have a slip under that she just didn't get the memo about? It was not great. If I were him, I would be done. Me too. Because I can't live my life waiting for you for two hours. If you can't be ready on time for the most important day of our lives... She said I think she takes five hours to get ready. Well, then start getting ready earlier. She said she gave herself plenty of time. That's why I'm confused what happened. Me too. She better explain herself in the next episode. I don't know what the explanation is because I mean, I feel like we saw it all unravel and it just seemed incredibly self-centered. They were still standing there like when dinner was supposed to be served. Can you imagine? These people didn't have water. Like, they're going to die out there. The dog definitely could have died. Sonoma gets hot. That old, his old mother who's 80-something? With a possibly broken hip? She looks pretty good for 80-something, I gotta say. But people do die from falls like that at that age. It's like all downhill after that. It's like what sets them on a trajectory. Yeah. It's bad. I've really done a 180 on Aaliyah. I couldn't believe. I could not believe. Some more drama. Not a lot or like a long duration of drama, but Mark and Nina had some pretty sad news. Devastating. That Clayton cannot come to the wedding. Her son. They left us on a cliffhanger that she has to tell in the news, which is brutal. Her own son can't come to her wedding because they didn't figure out the visa in time. And he had already packed his belongings. Oh, and she's now agonizing. Yeah, I was agonizing. Like, do you think she'll get married? She really seems understandably torn up about it. Like, how do you get married without your kid there? I think she'll do it because she has to. But if I were her, I mean, it's... I don't know why they couldn't find out until, like, the day before. I think what happened, if I recall correctly, is that they didn't realize his passport was expired until she had already gotten the K-1. And so they tried to fast-track it. So they were working on it, but, like... I would, if I were her, I would say I want to do like just a simple courthouse thing and we'll do a ceremony later. I think that would be the move for me too. But they're already like, they're literally signing the paperwork on final payments for this wedding as she gets this call. So I don't know how you do that at this point. One of them, did you see one of them had the check open? Mark and Mina. So... Their venue was amazing. It's amazing. I loved it. The food total, it said food total, 8,000. And then the beverage total was almost 7,000 for an open bar. Does that seem right? I'm doing some quick math. I think they said 85 guests, maybe eight plus seven is 15 grand. If they, if they had 85 guests, that's actually really cheap for food because typically it's one 50 ahead, which would make 53 guests. So that's a really good deal on food. They might've had less. I'm not sure. It's not a great deal on booze, but, but it depends on how you get it because like we supplied our own alcohol and just hired in a bartender and like, doing it that way and buying all the alcohol from like Costco, we only spent like$1,500 on it. And we had 90 people at the wedding. That's also because you banned people from drinking hard alcohol. Well, I didn't ban them. I just made them wait until like 9 PM to start taking shots. Cause I wanted people functional for the main events. So sue me. Okay. We had leftover alcohol after I regret it, whatever the point is. There are other ways. That's not the only way to go about having your bar. Like what they might've done was set a liquor cap at, what was it? 8,000, 7,000 for the night. So whenever the bar tab reaches that, they'll close it, which going that way, tends to be more expensive because it was a very specific number. It was like 7,000 something, something, something. So they probably had an estimate of how much they wanted per guest. And then that's their cap of the bar tab. And it'll shut down after that is my guess. Or maybe they do it differently there than all of the venues that I toured. They just like have like, the venue has calculated an estimate for what they think that amount of people will cost and you pay that flat rate and it's open all night. That's possible too. If that's the case, it's still kind of steep. Well, it was a beautiful, beautiful venue. Goodness gracious. I think they're in New Hampshire, so I don't think that their stuff should really be that expensive. I was looking at venues in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's true. But all this to say, they spend a lot of money and If they have to cancel, I think that she should have planned a courthouse wedding just to be safe. I agree. And then not even start planning the real wedding until Clayton got there. Fully agree. Like that was a bad move on her part. I don't think she's Jasmine level bad mom leaving her kid behind. No, no, no. I think she really had the best of intentions. And I think she is truly devastated. And I can see her not doing it without him there. Even though I did think that Jasmine was truly devastated to leave her sons behind as well. We were duped. I don't think she's looked in the rear view in over a year. Nope. She'll never see those kids again. I wonder if she even calls them anymore. Who can say? Devastating for Juanse and the other one. JC. JC. Did anything else even happen with Mark and Mina? I don't think so. So I think we should skip to the most heartwarming moment of the season and maybe all of 90 Day Fiancé. That's bold. Do you disagree? Greg and Joan? It was very, very sweet. It was very sweet. He looked for that romantic house on the water. He looked for African attire for her. It was really sweet. But he got Nigerian, which was a great effort. Really good. He got all the food. I mean, if he put that much effort into his wedding invitations or keeping a job, he'd be very successful. And I was relieved when we discovered that his grave error was putting... the arrival time as the same time as the ceremony time in the grand scheme of things that's i thought the man lost his job i was gonna ask what would upset you more if your man lost his job or put the wrong lost his job lost his job but but my husband never would have had the opportunity because i am a control freak so yeah nobody had their hands on those invitations but me i mean he's he has natural slacker tendencies and he's working very hard to overcome them And when he was beating himself up in the confessional and started to tear up, my heart broke for him. I was like, oh my God, Greg, you're everything to me now. I'll eat your sourdough. I think, you know, Jessica needs to take note because he's trying to make an effort with her culture. He really tried. Just the fact that he was so disappointed in himself for that small error, which is not that serious of an error. Like, if you think about it, if the wedding has to start half an hour late, look at what's happening in Sonoma with Sean and Aaliyah an hour and a half late. Straight up. Yeah, the whole time I'm thinking to myself, like, just kick it all back 30 minutes. Who cares? Most weddings start 30 minutes late anyway. Like, whatever. That was a non-issue. But he he just wants to try so hard. And this came on the heels of all of that beautiful stuff he did for her hiring the dancers. I really said it was the best day ever. My heart has never been more full except maybe watching The Golden Bachelor or Love on the Spectrum. Yeah, my heart soared. My heart soared. I loved it. I loved it. And the other thing that I noticed during that scene where they were, you know, freaking out about the timing was that Miss Lucille's lipstick will not stay in place. Oh, I've been noticing that since episode one. That lipstick is always on the move. That lipstick has a mind of its own. It's going to do what it's going to do. We should start, like, tracking it. Where was her lipstick today? Tracking where it travels. Oh, it was on the left corner. It was on the left side. Tracking its travels. Yeah. I hope that she can keep it in line for the wedding. Did she say something? Borderline... offensive about joan's dress no she said she looks beautiful i know what i think she also said oh she just said you're in a traditional wedding she did say she'd rather see them in a traditional outfit and i was like she said i'd rather see him in a traditional suit but joan looks beautiful okay still i think was better i think my only note on this whole grand gesture that i just loved if i had one note it would be he should have done all this At the wedding, like have them change clothes at the reception halfway through. Had some of the food, the Ugandan food at the wedding, you know, and had the dancers, the African dancers at the wedding. It's possible that he wouldn't have been able to surprise her. Maybe she's been more involved in the planning with the wedding. I don't know about that. I mean, I think he obviously had control of the invitations. I think he was able to surprise her with all of this. I don't know. I'm a fan of making the night before... fun and memorable also it's just extending the fun I liked it okay well then we can agree to disagree on that and I also wonder if it takes some pressure off of the main night like you set it up for more success by having this like really fun successful cool night before it's like Really good vibes, relaxed, going into the next day. Yeah. And then it's like, yeah, just like reaffirms her love. She said it was her dream come true and she could not wait to have kids with him. I loved it. I thought it was great. It like sets the tone. It sets the energy level at top. Yeah. Yeah. I loved it. Who else was on that show? Did we actually catch everybody this week? You know, I think we did, but I thought that last week also. Who can say? So if we missed anyone, you know, we're just trying our best, trying our best. So quick update on 90 Day in Paradise, Hunt for Love. It's really good. I do recommend watching it. Oh, man. It's unhinged. It's unhinged. I just don't know if I can watch that much of Rob. Well, I'm attracted to Rob, so I don't have the same affliction. So can you tell me what's happening? Is Chantal a lesbian now? She's not sure. She had one kiss with a friend and thinks that perhaps it makes her a full lesbian now. So... You know, it takes her a while to process things. That's a journey that she has to figure out on her own. But she's still attracted to men. So she's figuring it out. So that's interesting. There's a woman on there who's one of the civilians who is like James from Love Hotel level nuts. So that's really fun to watch. Colty is starting to have feelings for Courtney, our resident alky.

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Sorry if that's offensive. But she likes Usman, so they're kind of like both vying for her affection, which is interesting. I did see that he was singing a song to another woman and she seemed to be getting jealous. Here's how it went. I love you, I love you, I love you. Insert name here. Yeah. That was it. Yeah, that's about his level of song. Yeah. All in all, you know, it's just a fun watch. It just goes down easy. If you find some time, I do recommend watching that. But I did also watch the first episode of Sirens. Was it good? I haven't watched it. Oh, I'm in. I haven't had enough. So we're flying this weekend. The reason we're recording early is because our grandma's turning 90. So we get to go to her birthday party. Yay, HBD grandma. But I think I'm going to. download some of the episodes for the plane. I'll do the same. There's five episodes only. Oh, well, I think I'll get through them all then. I'm sure you will. So I'm really, it's really interesting. And something about Julianne Moore is like, obviously not everything is revealed in the first episode. Like it, it just opens a lot of questions, but her character from the first episode, I'm just fascinated. Tell me more about this. You're selling it. I don't know if I'm going to be able to wait until the plane ride to start watching. It's good. But I do have five more episodes of Mormon Wives I'd like to watch. Yeah. When you get to it. Yeah. Once I get through Sirens, I haven't yet started the season of Hacks. So I need to, like I said, hockey playoffs. The Stanley Cup finals are this week. So then mercifully. Praise be. We'll be out of this hellhole, no offense. Now that that's done, we'll pick back up Hacks and we'll pick back up Righteous Gemstones because we're really behind. Okay, well, I will tell you that I finished both and one was amazing and one was terrible. And I'm sure you can guess which ones. I think I got it. Hacks is the best show on television. The best show on television. The best show on television. That is a bold statement. So you think this season was the best? It is a commodee. But it also makes you feel everything. It's not like the bear comedy where you just have feelings. You have laughs and feelings at an even level. It's just. Okay. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. And it's always been. That's the thing. It's like you can count on it. You can rely on hacks being good. And then also, if you have any spare time, I don't think you've gotten past season one of Love on the Spectrum. I actually am, I think, almost done with season two. Oh, great. Okay. That's a heartwarming watch. nothing but joy so simple it just makes everything so simple and easy and it's just like i feel like the this this time is a very shitty time especially here in america and most people are looking for something that isn't anything like that and this show is just it's kind of like when we watched ted lasso season one you know like just just joy yeah like this came out years ago Obviously, because there's three seasons, but I'm glad it didn't find me until right now. We needed it now. And they have UK that we can somehow find and watch. And I think they have something else, too. It's amazing. And even when things go wrong, like if the date doesn't go very well, it's still you leave happy. It's still uplifting. Yeah. Somehow upbeat. Somehow upbeat. um how to lose a guy in 10 days classic movie uh we also got a trailer for um the gilded age for those of us who watched that that's back june 22nd i cannot wait i know mom's gonna watch it with me um grandma's gonna watch it we're very excited anybody else who's like a downtown abbey fan definitely recommend gilded age or carrie coon fan if you like carrie coon cynthia nixon in a very different role meryl streep's daughter yep Christine Bransky? Is that her last name? Is she in that? Yeah. She's in Nine Perfect Strangers, the new season, too. We didn't need that. Nobody asked for that. I know. But I still might do it because I hate myself. Well, I would ask you if you're going to rot this weekend, but I'm going to see you on Saturday. I'm so excited. I'm going to pick you up and spin you around. Please don't. Well, we won't be rotting because we'll be too busy celebrating GMAW. HPD, happy belated. It was a while ago. But we get to celebrate. And then the following week, I'll be in Austin for a work event. So we might take to the mic a little late, but we should be okay. But just in case things go awry. And if any of our two listeners have recommendations for things to do, a fun place to eat in Austin, please let me know. We're looking for restaurants. Or things to watch because clearly we don't have enough on our plates. I will also, I do want to say thank you to the fans because we got 50 downloads. We've surpassed 50 downloads. Five zero. That's kind of scary. So that's amazing. Thanks, everyone. I got to up my game. I feel like I need to bring more energy. I feel like my voice is very monotone. So maybe I should start talking like this. Please don't. Oh, God. No, they like us for us. I'll practice. Oh, God. Animated. Yikes. Until next time, thank you for rotting with us. Yikes. Thanks for rotting with us. See you next week.