6 - RHOM, The Valley, RHOA, Love Hotel, 90 Day Fiancé, and Love on the Spectrum

Love on the Spectrum is the show we really need right now! Lil and Madelyn dig into that plus the currently airing shows (Real Housewives of Miami, The Valley, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Love Hotel, and 90 Day Fiancé), as well as discuss whether or not Jax Taylor should still be allowed on Bravo. Oh, and Covid is back!

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Welcome to Rather Be Rotting, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive dissect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be rotting. Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm great. How are you? I've been watching a lot of Love on the Spectrum. Oh my God. Me too. I was about to say that. It's just, I mean, I think relate to the party. Probably. It doesn't matter when you get there as long as you get there with something like this. I'm on season three, episode three or four, I think. That's very specific, but I believe I'm in pretty much the same spot. Who's your fave cup? My favorite couple is obviously David and Abby. Obviously, I guess that's kind of a stupid question. I'm not really getting a lot of them though, so far this season. Why are they withholding them? Not sure. I like Madison. I like all her dolls. I love her obsession with American Girl dolls. Yeah, definitely. And her bracelets. Princesses. It's just very, you know, I resonate. Yeah, there's a little Madison in you. A little bit. Maybe there's a little bit of Madison in all of us. Probably. A little childlike wonder and whimsy. Where I left off is James going on a date with Sonia, who keeps asking if there's lipstick on her teeth and has a telephone purse. And a rose in her hair. She looks like the red emoji dancer. She's interesting. That show has been really good, especially right now when I would have a CCZ in hand. Cherry Coke Zero, obviously. Of course. The grocery store did not have any more Cherry Coke Zero. How dare? So I have a La Croix. But it's just not the same. It's not the same. You know, sometimes my office has CCZs in the fridge. For free? For free. No, that's not fair. It's pretty great. Do you drink one every day? I drink a diet soda of some variety every day I'm in the office. Yeah, I do. I think it's like kind of becoming an addiction. Like I need to have my one a day. I'm feeling like withdrawals right now. I think as long as you keep it to one a day. It's fine. Okay. Thanks, Dr. Will. Another fun thing is that I have COVID. Who knew that was still happening? It still exists. I was shocked. And you don't know how you got it? Well, I definitely got it in Austin. Oh, duh. Because several people from that conference have since been reported to be positive for COVID. Did you have to report yourself? No, but I did anyway because I didn't go to the office this week. because of the vid. So I had to say why I wasn't there. And did you have to send a picture of your positive test? I did send one just because I like to cover my bases. So I sent it and people, you know, you get a lot of sympathy, but ultimately I feel pretty fine. It just felt like a mild cold, really. I just, I was shocked because it felt so 2021 of me to even have a COVID test, let alone test positive. So did you have to go buy it or did you have it on hand? I bought it on Amazon. All right. Well, I'm glad that you're not feeling bad. You might have the new variant that I've been reading about and maybe it's better in that case. Yay. For me, like blanket PSA, I know, you know, people have their feelings, but I think you should be getting your booster. Just because I'm having a mild experience with it doesn't mean that other people will have the same experience. So, you know, do what you got to do to protect yourself and keep yourself healthy. I feel like that was directly at me because I don't remember the last time I got a booster. It wouldn't kill you to get one. That's all I'm saying. I'll think about it. I'm not anti-vax. I'm not. You sure? Because you seem like it. You seem like you might be. I'm mostly just lazy and I feel it's unnecessary. You also don't get your flu shots. Exactly. So this isn't a COVID denier thing. It's an illness denier thing. It's a two vaccine denier, but only two. You should definitely get both of those. What's going on in the world of pop culture this week? Well, I saw something funny before we got on here. So I'm sure you've seen the pictures of Brian Murphy's new American love story of the new John Kennedy and Carolyn Bessette. Yep. Absolutely. There were first look photos. And did you see how everyone was so mad? I did see that, yeah. People didn't like her icy blonde hair. They said, that's a 35 Birkin. She always... He's carried a 40, things like that. So that was kind of funny. And did you see what Ryan Murphy's response was? I did not. So he said that was just a lighting test. That's all. Like it wasn't how they're really going to be. We have 10 people on our costume board or wardrobe board that are going to make sure that everything is right. You know, we've already acquired some of her stuff, stuff like that. So he's like going hard against it. And sure enough, today on Dumont, I found I saw new pictures from set and her hair is like the roots are brown, which is more like what Carolyn actually looked like. So I don't know if Ryan Murphy just made all that up to cover his ass or what. But thank God I was really worried about her hair color being too icy. It was keeping me up at night. I got to say. I hate you. I feel like the things that fascinate me don't fascinate you. And it's weird because we have the same brain, but there's like that one little tiny part that diverged. I was interested for sure, but I wasn't going to lose. I wasn't going to lose sleep. In fact, I wasn't upset about it. I just liked that. It happened to Ryan Murphy who, you know, he's done the OJ Simpson show. He's done the Menendez brothers. It's just funny, you know, when you, He's gotten it right so far. Imagine him scrambling to get a different wig in one day or whatever so they don't get behind schedule. It's just funny to picture. I do like that image in my mind. I agree that it's funny. The Karen Reid trial is a blind spot for us, I feel like. I've been loosely following. I have a lot of coworkers who were very invested. So there was one day, you know, me, like the problem with having me go back to an office is that I am just chatty. So nobody gets a lot of work done when I'm around. So one of the days I was like, somebody tell me what's going on with this Karen Reed trial. And we spent a good 30 minutes just having them fill me in. So I was caught up and somewhat aware when the verdict came out. Did you have an opinion? Do you think it was the right verdict? I do. I, you know, just upon what I was told by those around me, I thought there's no way they can find her guilty. Like even if she did do it, there's not enough evidence, you know, there's too much evidence that leads to reasonable doubt or a coverup. So I think justice was correctly served here. Well then congratulations to Karen. What are your thoughts? I don't know enough at all. I've had several, several people explain it to me, and for some reason I can't retain any other information other than, like, a frozen body. Okay. Is that what it was? Yeah, so... The body was, like, frozen outside. We don't need to get into it, because, like, if you know, you know, but... Well, yeah, and the argument was that she hit him with her car, but... There was so much that indicated that that could not have happened. And just everybody involved was wasted also. Yeah, and I've heard that they were texting each other. A dog may have disappeared. Oh yeah, the dog. I did hear about a dog. So I haven't been keeping up with that because I have been trying to watch Love Island. No, you have not. I told you. You said you wanted me to try, and I did. The only thing I know about Love Island this week is what happened to my girl Paige. She went in, right? I'm not there yet. I'm very behind. She hosted a challenge but could not finish the challenge because she was wearing a suede dress. She talked about it on her podcast. She essentially passed out, threw up, passed out, overheated, and could not finish the challenge. And the way they edited it was... They didn't just like make it seamless. She got through all the couples until two at the end. And then the editor person was like, Paige is gone. Moving on. Like, terrible. That Scottish guy? Yeah. Oh my God. I can't. Well, if I keep watching, which I don't know if I will. So yeah, what are your thoughts? So the episodes are long. They're an hour each. Every day? And there's... Just about. There's 14 episodes total already. I watched four hour-long episodes. The first episode was an hour 43. That's like a movie. Yikes. And the guys aren't even that hot. And guess what? I only saw Ariana one time in four episodes. This doesn't feel worth it to me. They keep getting texts on their phone that tell them, like, where to go and when to do the challenges. I don't... So... I don't like it. I just... You know I'm a sheep. I want to be just one of the common folk. I want to do what they do. Anyway, it is beautifully scored, though. They find the right music for the right moment 100% of the time, like, to make you feel something, even where you otherwise wouldn't. That is helpful. So, yeah. But I think that's, like, a huge compliment because they only have, like, a day to edit these episodes. I can't even imagine how hard that must be. Because it's, like, Big Brother status. Yeah. Impossible. And... I never thought I'd say this, but I'm tired of watching people make out. Oh, speaking of watching people make out, I'm going to just jump right to Hunt for Love. Did you watch this past week's episode? No, no. Tell me, tell me. So Rob and Jennifer fully, fully did it. The crazy one? Yeah. Oh, no. Tim's ex. Tim's ex, who is crazy. And the editors just let you watch. Like, obviously their privates were blurred, but... They were fully having vacation sex, no sheets on the bed, rolling around. What positions? Several. Mostly Rob on top. Wow. And I was like, now we're getting somewhere with this show. Next week it's going to be Kourtney and Colt. No, thank you. I'll pass on that. You missed Usman in a really disturbing high ponytail. A top knot, if you will. I feel like he's been doing that. With his tiny braids. Not a good look. Yeah, he does have the very short Yeah, and also what you missed additionally is Tim wearing the most questionable outfit I have ever seen. Maybe like a tribal printed bowling shirt type situation with gray ripped jeans and what appeared to be black leather rain boots over them. It was wild. He was wearing that like in the middle of Mexico? At the club. Or wherever they are? Mm-hmm. At the club. Wow. Oh, I feel bad for him. I do too. i don't know him well enough but like it's just kind of makes me sad and then the last great takeaway was after rob and jennifer hooked up the next day she and courtney were in the pool and courtney was asking what happened and jennifer said oh he just came back to my room and was a gentleman and we cuddled and courtney and her in her talking head was like They definitely hooked up, but she's smart to not tell me because I will go tell everybody. And I was like, I love her. I love her so much. The self-awareness is fantastic. I've seen all but all two episodes of her, but I know enough because I don't I didn't see her origin story. So she might have been on the other way. I honestly can't remember. She must have been because that's the franchise I don't watch. Well, you also don't watch before. That's true. That's true. Before the 90s. Should we just get right into it? 90 Day then? Yeah, I think we should. Who would you like to start with? Let's get the thruffle out of the way. I don't have much to say about them other than... Yeah, I got nothing. I enjoyed watching the theatrics this week. Really? They're just the same as every other week. I just like... I don't know. I enjoyed watching Imani sob to Matt's arm saying, I'm unlovable... Because, yeah. She just did exactly what Ani predicted she would do. Right. She's controlling. She's selfish. She's a narcissist. Do you think the sobbing at the end over the situation was real? Because it almost kind of sold me. No, I don't think any of it's real. But it was very snotty. I guess it depends on your definition. Maybe she is sad about this triple ending. I think it depends on your definition of real because she probably, first of all, I don't think they've ended, but we'll find out on the tell all, I guess. But I've seen them on TikTok and joint things. I think she's sad because she's losing. I don't think she's sad because she loves Ani. I think she just wants to have a sex slave that she can control and is sad that she's losing that. potentially oh my god where do you get that idea that's so dark i what i mean by that is i think she only wants annie around to bang her like a fuck buddy yeah i don't think there's any like true love happening i don't think that amani gives two shits about that woman's kids i don't think she cares about her own kids like that's not yeah i don't think she cares about any kids of the world no That's what I mean by sex slave. She just wants her for that and that's it. So I don't think anything legitimately real is happening there. I just think she wants to have her around to bang and is potentially sad that that's ending. And I think she likes the idea of being a celebrity because of it. Oh yeah, for sure. I guess we'll see on the tell-all what they have to say about that. And then the only other couple that ended on bad terms were Sean and Aaliyah. And I'm still firmly on his side. Me too. Her explanation was not good enough. No. She didn't even really have one at all. And I like that a lot of the blame was getting put on that friend Jackie because it is primarily Jackie's fault. Jackie is such a bitch. Jackie is a little slur and she needs to go away. It's fucking Jackie's fault that we have turned on beautiful angel Aaliyah. Do you think they'll bring Jackie out at the tell-all? Jackie's flight has been booked since that scene was shot. I think you're probably right. Jackie will be there with bells on. Probably in all the parts. I'm glad Sean's mom didn't break her hip. That's great. I think it's sad that Aaliyah is so caught off guard by the reaction. That's a bummer, but... She shouldn't be. And you don't think it's like a language thing, like lost in translation. I mean, she can understand she was fucking late. If anything, it's a culture thing. If anything, but he told her how important it was to him. I don't think Aaliyah really cares about him that much. No. This was about her, her day, and that was all that mattered to her. I think she's a little selfish. A little? It's the most selfish thing I've ever seen. I know, but like I said, I used to really like her, so it's like a slow turn, you know? It was quick for me. Well, RIP to that relationship, but I'm sure that he'll be with her until she gets her green card. I actually think they're still together because Shekinah recently posted a TikTok with the two of them. Well, yeah. Like I said, I think they're going to stay married until she gets her green card. Right. And probably stay friends. I don't think this was ever a real relationship. And they might live together still even. Maybe. They probably have the same exact relationship they did before. Yeah, I think so. Nothing changed, but it was never that deep. Speaking of Shekinah, our 90th wedding in 90 Day Fiancé history was a bedding. It was a bedding. I'd never seen anything like it. What did you think of their outfits? I thought hers fit her like a glove. It was exactly what I expected. Exactly. Like to a tee. Like a lingerie version of a wedding dress. What did you think of her look? And I liked her hair. Like the messy piled high on her head. Kind of 90s. Yeah, I thought she looked great. I mean, for her. Very puffy. Yeah. No, I thought she looked amazing. Face has a lot of filler. The body. The body in the corset lingerie wedding dress was. It looked great. It looked really good. Sarber, on the other hand. So he wore like a stripper tuxedo. Yeah, like a Chippendales tux. He owned it. I think he should have gone more like the Hugh Hefner route. I just thought it looked cheap. It looked very cheap. Like a Chippendales costume from the Halloween store, the Spirit store. If he had done a classy silk robe, classy silk pants, a Gucci slipper, perhaps. Or maybe like a... Like a button-up shirt that you'd wear with a suit, but the sleeves ripped off. I like my idea better, but sure. Hugh Hefner's just a little tacky to me. Not as tacky as a Spirit Store Chippendale costume. I was going to say, we're past the point of tacky. It would definitely be better. And the flowers really did help make the site, the altar, the bed. It's amazing what some flowers can do. transformative but then the room pans and you see it's like that little sad Hampton Suites kitchen and you're like oh they're still in this little hotel here and something else I didn't think about if you're gonna have a bedding is like you don't stand right but you're not laying down you're just like lounging you have to be like lounging for like slightly reclined you know like just kind of half lay half sit while you while you the person marries you. And I thought they did a good job because I don't think that's like an easy position to stay looking cute in. Oh, no. I look my most like a beached whale in that position. It is a beached whale position. Yeah, so this was truly for Instagram pics, obviously. And I think they accomplished what they wanted. But I think they still could have splurged for like the Beverly Hills Hotel or like... Oh, 100%. Anything in Malibu. It felt a little sterile. Yeah. Something about it I didn't like. But they are a love story for our time. They were made for each other. How do you feel about the fact that they got the honor of the 90th wedding? Didn't upset me. Who would you have wanted it to be? Greg and Joan? I'm not sure who I would have wanted it to be. I feel like they got it by default because they've been dramatic for several seasons. Yeah, it had to be somebody that we were already invested in. Yeah. I just, I guess I wish the wedding itself wasn't a bedding. Like for the 90th wedding, I wish it was like a bigger deal, but. Or a better bedding. A better bedding. At least we've given our notes. Yeah. Anyone could have helped stepped in. They're in Los Angeles. Truly. So they're married. Congrats to them. What's her name? The one that loves word art. She had some at her wedding. She had what? Word art. Oh, she did have a word art at her wedding. Yeah. Never not a sign with words on it. What is it? Daddy's coming down or daddy's coming. It's like daddy comma. Here comes mommy or something cringy and barf inducing. Yes. Yes. That was exactly what it was. And it was atrocious. Juan and Jessica. That's the couple. I never want to see some... That was an assault to my eyes. Anyway, Juan and Jessica, yes. Not much to... Their wedding was pretty standard. I thought their vows were really sweet. Her attempt to do it in Spanish was... Pathetic. I was going to say really something. It was one sentence. At least do like a block of text, like a hearty chunk. At least try to get the accents somewhat correct. No, no, I'm not going to put that on her. I will. Very bad at speaking Spanish. I will put it on her. I would be afraid that I would be trying too hard with the accent and make it worse. I think he would appreciate it more if she tried harder with the accent. Yeah. And did you know that they're only 30 and 31? That tracks. I thought Juan was like 24 and she was like 34 to 44. No, but Stevie and Maddie have that age gap. Okay. Well, to quote Phaedra at Parks, I've never seen someone so young look so old. Jessica looked 45. Yikes. To me, at least. I loved when they went to the reception and people were just dancing and that Tawan equals Colombian. And he said, now it's a Colombian wedding. I didn't see any of the flowers, by the way. There was nothing. And I feel bad. I'm glad he was having a good time. But like, it was not enough tributes. No, definitely not. But you know, and it was like, but I will say it was 25% less bleak than I thought it would be. Yeah. And that is something. It's a good effort, a valiant effort. And so there were no tributes there. But over at Stevie and Maddie's wedding. Yes. We got an emotional tribute, the half sin. So I was going to ask you because we have been to a Persian wedding. Yes. Is that what they had there? maybe I honestly don't remember I have to ask there was something on their altar with a bunch of stuff and it was I remember being told at the time what it was but it went out of my brain at some point but it was super cool and goldfish memories goldfish memories but I thought it was really sweet he was very very touched and then Saeed his friend was like this was the last thing I was expecting to see and I was like Saeed go the fuck away go away don't talk to yourself Don't talk ever again. Get rid of that 80s shirt you have on. Guess what? Did you see? It's not going away. That shirt is coming with us to the reunion. Oh, Jesus. I could not believe the shirt. You know who this man is? He is the male equivalent of Joe from Vanderpump Rules. Kind of, yes. I just put that together. I have a bigger soft spot in my heart for Jo for some reason. I'll never. I would like to have her make a return. Wasn't she Kristen's, like, best friend? I'll never understand this opinion that you have. I want to see her again. I do. I do not. I never need to see her again. Anyway, back to Stevie and Maddie. That guy's a creep. He couldn't even help tie a tie. He's fucking useless. He's useless. He's annoying. But he didn't turn on the waterworks at the end. Do you think that was real? Did he cry at the end? Was it real? No, I think that he's trying to show his community theater like how deep he can go. How deep can you go? I think that he was a good actor. I mostly felt sorry for Stevie having to hike up her dress the whole time. I didn't even notice that. Why was she doing that? Because she bought it at the last second and didn't have it tailored to her. And when you buy a strapless dress and you don't have it tailored to your body, you're going to spend the whole night. Oh, she had to keep going like this? Hiking it up. Yeah. Yeah. I know you. I bought a strapless dress and that was a big fear of mine. And we went to great lengths to make sure that I didn't have to do that once. So I felt bad for her. The titties never moved. They were snug. Mine were snug as a bug in a rug. My advice to all brides with strapless dresses and big boobs is to get your corset bra sewn into that bad boy, which obviously Stevie did not do. She didn't have time. So she spent her whole wedding pulling her dress up, which was a bummer. also doesn't she have kids yes i was going to ask because i thought maybe you'd at least have them there and blur their faces but it didn't even appear they were there like how is she i understand her wanting to keep her kids life private but to like not even talk to go a whole show without talking about them once is very odd like what is their relationship with maddie how's he doing as a stepdad like all that stuff i'd love to know Like I can see you saying like they're with their dad while we're filming. And I think in that case, it's okay to break the fourth wall just to show that you like care about your children. This is why I don't need them anymore. Like if we're going to get a couple from this season on Happily Ever After, I don't want it to be them because I'm not getting anything from them. Yeah, I agree. So their wedding was great. Really sweet to see her dad. A love story for our time. Love story for our time. Her dad walked her down the aisle. Really nice. Mark and Mina. And then Mark and Mina. So Mark and Mina, I thought it was really sweet as well. That wedding was cute. The daughter was adorable. I'm just curious about her wig choices. I was going to say the low ponytail. It was giving Hamilton. It's not what I would have chosen. No. But I don't hate the idea of a low ponytail. I just don't like it. hamilton-esque styling of that one specifically i also just don't think that it fit well i don't think that they like properly melted the lace like maybe they don't have a lot of options where they live that's my best guess because yeah i don't know i think you can get something well her sister was helping her right are they not is this what they're maybe she's a hairstylist no she's clearly not she's clearly not So that was my one thing. Like, on your wedding day, like, you spare no expense to look real good. Yeah, but if there's nobody in your town, if all you have is Martini Pat. Martini Pat does not know how to melt the lace at all. But she'd probably try. Bless her heart. So it was really sweet. Oh, and she had a dress change. She had a dress change. She did have a dress change. I loved that second sparkly dress. Looked really good. She clearly cares about looking good. That's why I was confused by the... by the choice but I think she's in a terrible location probably but I think the funniest part to me was she was so obviously drunk and she's looking at him going I'm pregnant it's like long oh yeah that was cute that was really cute and of course the editors get Jordan saying basically I've accepted it but if they choose to have another kid I'll be upset it's like get out of here yeah that was good and she said he completes her heart They're another love story for our time, I think. I think like four out of six are a love story for our time. Who would have thunk? This is the best track record of the show. Do you think that Juan and Jessica are a love story for our time? They are one of the two that I do not. Okay. Oh, actually, I guess three I do not. Yeah, I agree. On to the bravo sphere. You know what I have actually a lot of opinions about? What? Love Hotel. Really? Yeah.

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Oh, great. Let's just dig in then. What? I'm just thinking about Luanne and James. And when they came out, he asked, like, you know, how did your overnight date go? And she said, a woman doesn't kiss and tell. But I can tell you this. James is packing. Yeah, that's. And then Joel Kim Booster was like, okay, love to hear that. Like, he didn't hear what she said or something. I'm like, Louis, man, you're so classy. So classy. And, like, who would have thought that they would be the one couple to remain? I know.

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So shocked. It was so funny. And then did you see her on Watch What Happens Live? No. What did she say? So she said they're still together. They... He went to her cabaret show here in Los Angeles. Wow. So I wish I had been to that. So they do have an open relationship because he lives in Hawaii and she lives in New York. But they meet in California. a lot and they love each other she was wearing a key around her neck that he gave her and then on her wedding ring finger she was wearing a bauble from another suitor and Andy's like you're wearing it on your wedding ring finger and she's like oh it just couldn't fit on the other finger so they're very open with each other accepting of each other she kept quoting her own lines like all the different ones like she even said something about you know I wanted to accept James and then I didn't and you know but even louis vuitton makes mistakes so and then like nobody laughed she's a menace to society she's becoming a menace and then andy even said you've quoted five of your lines in the last five minutes she needs to be stopped anyway i thought that that was funny but yeah i couldn't believe that this show was real for for one couple and i never want to put my money on them yeah and apparently ashley and wale even though she did not pick him are texting which is fine, but she's not going to give him any more kids. So I don't know how realistic of an ending that is. I think overall we can consider this show a big flop. I agree. None of these, none of these couples were meant to stand the test of time. We got to rethink this format. Like it just didn't work. We need more men, more men, maybe cast different women. Like Giselle was never, this wasn't ever going to work for Giselle. Giselle picked that man and walked away and never looked back and probably forgot his name. Very quickly. Within 10 minutes. Yep. You know, it's time we'll never get back, but we did get a little bit of James and Luanne, who I did like their dynamic. I thought it was really fun. Me too. Where shall we go next? Let's just touch on Miami because not a lot happened. The Lisa-Larsa fight of it all. I love putting them in the car together. Beautiful. I thought the whole episode was terribly boring. I didn't think it was terribly boring. I'm very invested in Gertie's... journey i that was interesting i understand her wanting to undergo another surgery and i understand her husband not wanting that like i totally get that i didn't know that you needed three or four surgeries for breast reconstruction i mean as if cancer patients haven't been through enough when they're turning to that point i didn't know that either but i guess i once i learned i it made sense i think other than that like i just like i didn't need to see lars's son practicing his walk No, I didn't need any of that. I think my ultimate takeaway from this episode is like, I feel bad for what Alexia is going through because clearly she's just like not able to part with this man. Her emotions are all over the place. I also feel bad for Marisol because being the best friend of a person in a situation like that is incredibly frustrating. What she was saying about this not being the Alexia she knows is accurate. This version of Alexia is kind of wild to watch. She's typically a lot more hard-headed, quicker to cut people out. I don't know because Todd isn't attractive. Like I said, kind of an asshole so I don't understand why she's having this reaction love they were together for eight years and I also couldn't believe it when she said that because I don't know how he always this bad or has he changed the more we saw him the more it was like oh you're just kind of douche you know yeah that's too bad yeah they were both on watch what happens live did you see that I did see them yeah And how she said we were not together, but we had sex a few days ago. Yep, saw that. Did you see John Mayer? I did see John Mayer. Do you know who John Mayer reminds me of? This is going to blow your mind. Now that I've seen his personality on this show. Who? Your husband. My husband is as hot as John Mayer is. Thanks for noticing. I wasn't saying looks-wise. I was saying attitude, the things he would say. the way he was saying them like his thoughts like in general just his general as a person he reminded me of your husband I'll have to go back and I'll rewatch it through that lens and see if I just his scenes yeah okay good shall we take a trip to Grenada yeah there wasn't not a lot happened in this episode either though honestly Real Housewives of Atlanta I enjoyed watching the Jab Jab Festival Me too. It was so powerful. And Phaedra, like, literally, I think she had sex. Oh, she definitely did. Second couple this week that I watched do it on TV. Oh, yeah. Like, they, on that boat, I mean, that was thrusting. A lot of thrusting. It looked like they had a blast. I think getting all that oil or tar or whatever it was off your body in the shower would be a nightmare. It would. Did you hear the funniest joke ever? That I've ever heard on a franchise. That I don't want to repeat. Well now you have to repeat it. It was about Cynthia. Having a. A hooded clitoris. Do you remember the joke? I don't remember the joke. I remember them talking about her. Is your clit with the KKK? Oh yeah. Fasia is everything to me. I do hope, and I know it's hard because she's joining in the second half of the season, but I don't know that much about her other than how funny she is. Does she ever get in the mix with drama? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Because right now she just seems like the funny narrator. I would like to see another side of her. She might not this season because there's not a lot left, but I think if we can see her again next season, we'll definitely... Get some more of that. And my ultimate life goal is to go back into the vault and watch earlier seasons and learn that for myself. But I'd like to see it now. You're missing out on old Atlanta. I mean, I hope I don't miss out forever. Well, only you can control that. I mean, it's hard to have notes about her because she's just so amazing. But like, if I was going to give her a note. She's everything to me. I'm trying to think what else happened on this episode. Honestly. nothing there was a drama about Britt and Kelly with their makeup team but that was minor yeah that was that was really minor yeah they ended the trip on a really good note so I think yeah oh yeah I was gonna ask what do you think about the cats trip overall I thought I thought it was a And her divorce not going the way she expects in the future. So this has really been a good season, all things considered, which is shocking because of the way that it started. It was interrupted. Yeah, I mean, I liked the cast trip. I don't think it's going to go down in history, obviously. No, no. I'm not going to remember it two years from now, but I enjoyed it while I was here. Yeah, and I don't have a whole, I mean, I think we had a lot of filler episodes this week from Bravo. Because I don't have a lot about Miami. I don't have a lot about Atlanta. Yeah, but one episode. We have a lot about is the Valley. I think it's safe to say these are no longer the best days of our lives. Do you want to start with Watch What Happens Live or do you want to start with the Valley? The Valley. So Jax is out of rehab on the Valley. He's out. Yeah. He's out and he's immediately terrible. He's already a menace. He's terrible instantly. He's taking... How did you find out things that happened literally hours before, like the barbing poster? And how did he find out about Danny taking secret shots in the pantry? Like, who's the mole? Production. Wow. I guess I wouldn't put it past him. They must have posted about Brits on... instagram instagram oh yeah that's probably true but the fact that the fact that jesse's like oh you know zach's having a party at my house tomorrow for his boyfriend just so you know and for jack's to be like i don't care who's partied is what it's for i'm there even though i'm not invited and nobody wants me there is like immediately you've done no work at all he just got out of rehab he wants to go out what don't you get about it he's not going to say drinking is his problem because anger is his problem not all the massive amounts of cocaine yeah his ego and anger not the cocaine and the other various drugs and alcohol that he's constantly funneling into his body He's got a lot of thoughts on himself. Do you remember when he gave Brittany full legal custody? He gave her full legal custody? Yes, because he was filling out the form himself and he just did it wrong. What an idiot. He's so stupid. Well, you know what they say. If you snort enough cocaine, it eats away at your brain. At least that's what they told us in Dare. Oh, Dare. Dare was really good. I'm still scared of drugs. Yeah, I was pretty much scared straight. How, I wonder, I hope it's still around today. I'm not sure. I don't know if there are any children I can ask. What did you think about the burner account? I thought that was hilarious. That was hilarious. That Jax has a burner account. That he got caught commenting his burner account saying he's the man. That was, that was beautiful. Again, he's just like so stupid. Pausing Jax for a second. Danny and the whole, you know, secret shots. You're always drunk. I... I think that they're all gaslighting him. 100%. Like, leave the poor man alone. Everyone is getting drunk at these things. 100%. I don't know why they've chosen to die on this hill this season. I don't understand it. I don't get it. It's weird. But other than that, I don't need Danny and Mia anymore, ever. Well, I think, so, you know... Nia got into it a bit with Janet, which it was nice to see her really stand up for herself against Janet. Janet's just like impossible to have a conversation with because she just leaves when she's wrong, which is always. Obviously, I'm not a big Janet fan at all. I don't like. I don't know. I think Jax has more fans, honestly. You might be right about that. Where did you think? So they were showing a lot of kind of exterior shots of Tom Schwartz and Jax's apartment. Yeah, I think they move. Do you know where it is? Did you see Danny and Nia's kid like with. No, I missed that. No, I totally missed that. I gotta go back and watch that. Yeah. But, okay, so back to Jax. Unless you have anything else on anyone else. No. I thought Watch What Happens Live was good. I thought that Andy didn't waste a second. So I don't typically watch... Watch what happens. But it rolled right into the episode after Miami. So I kept it on because I'd seen some things on TikTok about Jax's behavior or his kind of the way he appeared to continuously get angrier with the questions asked on Watch What Happens Live. So I watched it. It was very uncomfortable to watch. And I think Andy was just like really not hiding the fact that he doesn't like Jax. But I have to agree with Kristen. Don't have him on there. Why did they have him on there? Well, Andy literally started with that. People are mad that you're here. And I am one of them. Well, I think that he deserved a chance to. No, he doesn't. He hasn't gotten to speak for himself yet. He's spoken for himself plenty. All he ever does. And this is what drives me nuts. Okay. Let me just get up on my soapbox here for one second. Because all that's ever coming out of that man's mouth. I have one too. All that's ever coming out of that man's mouth is give me a break. Nobody feels sorry for me. What do you want from me? Nobody cares about me. Give me a break. It's like, no, no. Nobody's giving you breaks anymore. You're psychotic. He needs to just, Bravo, I feel stronger than ever now after watching this past episode and watch what happens that Bravo needs to sever ties with this man. He apologized. Big deal. He apologizes and then immediately goes, give me a break. no he did you hear him say his biggest regret was not getting out of the marriage sooner and andy goes maybe the way you treated britney should be your biggest regret so this is this is my point like he's done zero work the reason why he had to get out of that marriage and that it was toxic was because of him Okay, but I know I might be on the wrong side of history here, but I have a soapbox too. Where were all you Jax haters when Jax was giving Stassi herpes? When he was cheating with Faith? When he was calling Brittany fat? I've never liked Jax. When he told everyone that Brittany and Christian hooked up? Like, where was everyone saying, this is too dark, Jax shouldn't be on our TV? He's not done anything worse than what he's done for 10 or 11 years, and now people are just deciding it's too dark, this is the line? First of all, I've never liked him. I've always thought he was terrible. But you have never said to get him off your screen, ever. I think what's different now is he has a child. Did anyone think that he would change if he had a child? Because that's naive. I didn't think he would change, but I think we've reached a breaking point. I think we can add up all of the past behavior and say the summation of all of this leads us to sever ties. Because if you recall, Bravo fired him once before when all of the racist stuff was coming out, when they fired Stassi, Kristen, and Jax. And I never understood why they brought him back. They brought Kristen back too? Are you mad about that? And Stassi has come back to Bravo. No, because I think Kristen has actually changed. Unlike Jax, I think Kristen has realized what she did was wrong and she's still herself in a lot of ways, but I do think there's been some personal growth from her and most certainly from Stassi as well. That's a grim theory, if it's true. Why? I don't want them to have changed. I think that they've changed a bit. I don't like change. I want crazy Kristen. I think she's still definitely a podster, just not a racist podster. And that's... Kristen? Yeah. And that's for the best. I don't know. I just... It's hard to look at him because I'm just so... I'm so disgusted with him at this point. I just... it's because like, I think that's what it is. It's as everybody else has grown and matured in these ways, even Kristen, and even listening to the way that Schwartz talks about Katie. And it's like, everybody's grown up in some capacity, except for him, except for him. If anything, he's getting worse. And like, but it's like the one thing we can count on in this world is that Jax is going to be a monster. I don't want to count on that anymore. I don't want I'm not having fun watching that any longer. I want more petty drama. This is like too real of drama. I can see what you're saying. I, like Tom Schwartz, am holding space for hope. That's really good for you. And for Tom. And for Jax, ultimately. I hope that pays off for you. We'll see where this goes. We have a little bit more. Other things. I've been watching Hacks. Oh! hallelujah hallelujah and you're welcome actually i should be saying you're welcome we're only a handful of episodes in and i gotta say the first couple were really hard for me because season one no season three oh okay i forget what happened in season three well is that the most recent one yes so where we left off the season prior is when ava had blackmailed yes which i thought was the best season finale of a show ever But the way that that has just carried through in such a, again, dark way hasn't been fun for me to watch. Like them truly hating each other and being like legitimately hurt. I'm like, that's not, where's the lightheartedness? This isn't fun. And I do feel bad because I did promise you that it's not like the bear. It's actually funny. Right. But I'm not laughing. There was, you're right. There was darkness. But, you know, I think, you know, After darkness comes the light, and I promise you there will be light for more than half the episodes. Okay. We're already starting to turn around a little bit, so. Yeah, I mean, the darkness only lasts like two episodes. It certainly lasted more than that. The darkness only lasted three episodes. Other than that, I haven't been watching a whole heck of a lot. Just love on the spectrum, trying to catch up on hacks. Love it. All that good stuff. I watched a show called Adolescence on Netflix. Oh, how was that? It was good. It's four episodes and each one is one take. Oh. So it's very impressive. Like the first episode is a little boy being accused of murder. So it starts with like the cops busting down his door, going through his house, the little boy being like, what? And then they drive him to the station. They book him. And it's like, it's one take. And it's pretty impressive. And then the second episode or the third episode, the one take is like in a room at the juvenile hall with a little boy and his therapist. And it is so good, this little boy, to be able to do what he did in one take. I mean, and the pressure that was on him to do what he did in one take. Because if you mess up, what if you get... 50 minutes in and you mess up. That church is ruined. Yeah. So you recommend? I think the storyline, I mean, it was interesting, but like the episodes at times like had slow moments because it's literally one take. Like in the last episode, they drive to the grocery store and then they drive home. So, I mean, it takes as long as it takes and you're watching it in real time. But I think just like what they did was super impressive. My boyfriend told me that episode with the little boy and the therapist, they did it 10 times. Wow. All right. Well, I'll give that a watch. just just like it's an impressive feat if nothing else like at times it's slow and i know you hate that but like if you can just take a step back and like marvel at it like jury duty an impressive feat an impressive feat well jury duty actually made me feel a lot of feelings too which is like one of the greatest shows of all time it is are you are you gonna get a rot day this weekend no definitely not but i'm gonna rot for the rest of the evening what are you doing this weekend You know, we're going to be in the bathroom again. I hate to bring it back to the B word. We're almost done renovating our bathroom. Do we predict this will be the last weekend that you take to the bathroom? I fucking hope so. Last weekend we didn't do the bathroom, I will say. Last weekend we were kind of busy, so we didn't have to do the bathroom. And so we got a little break. We're energized. We're ready to just the final stretch. Knock it out. I will say I'm not rotting either. I have a wedding. Yeah, you'll be at a wedding. A wedding in Connecticut. So east coast of us. So fancy. So posh. A beach Connecticut wedding. So. Next time we should talk about the Beckham family feud. Or let me guess. I don't care about that either. It's not that I don't care. It's that I don't know. So I'll take this week to dig into it. We'll break it down. Yeah. By next week it'll probably be so old news. I mean it already is. But it's something that fascinates me. I'll dig into that. Okay. Until then, enjoy your wedding and then your work week. Everybody enjoy your work weeks and thanks for rotting with us. Thanks for rotting with us.