Rather Be Rotting
Rather Be Rotting is the ultimate escape for pop culture obsessives and reality TV junkies. Hosted by two sisters who’d always rather be rotting on the couch, this show is a love letter to Bravo marathons, niche celebrity drama, and the kind of useless-but-essential pop culture knowledge that clogs their brains (and now, your ears). Whether they’re deep-diving into reality TV chaos or spiraling over a red carpet moment, these two are here to talk about everything that doesn't matter—but means everything to them.
Rather Be Rotting
12 - Jesus Christ Superstar, Big Brother, The Valley, RHOA, RHOM, RHOC, and 90 Day HEA
Madelyn saw Jesus Christ Superstar at the Hollywood Bowl and is forever changed thanks to Cynthia Erivo's performance! The gals gab about the currently airing shows (Big Brother, The Valley, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Real Housewives of Miami, and 90 Day Happily Ever After), as well as a bit about the ending of And Just Like That (thank G). They also get into some chatter about religion (huh?), Liam and Pam, paying too much to get your hair done, and Lil's bday!
Welcome to Rather Be Rotting, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive dissect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be rotting. Hello. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm not as good as you. You have the moms in town and we're late to this recording for a good reason. I am. I'm still on a high. Wow. Like the high of my life. From seeing Jesus Christ Superstar at the Hollywood Bowl with Cynthia Erivo, Adam Lambert, Phillipa Soo, and even John Stamos got a song. Star studded. I have never seen so much talent in one room. I mean, is it really a room, though? One venue. Amphitheater. What Cynthia did up there was unreal. She left her soul on the Hollywood Bowl stage like that. It was almost a religious experience. Well, technically it is a religious experience because it is Jesus Christ Superstar. I know. And, you know, I don't really think too much about, like, the plot. I'm not going to lie. It's all singing. And I'm not well-versed in the Bible. We just weren't raised that way. Nope. So I had a lot of questions after. Like, how did he know Judas betrayed him? You know, but... I mean, it didn't matter. Adam Lambert was born to play that role. It was just, it was everything to me. And the moms liked it as well. The moms were in heaven. That's so great. They liked it even more than I did. Wow, wow, wow. So, I mean, it really was just like the perfect night. Truly. And, like, my boyfriend said, like, the perfect Ellie experience. Like, you can see Jesus Christ Superstar anywhere and you're never going to get a cast like that. That is true. That is facts. And I wish you could have been there, but you didn't seem that interested from the talks. You know, it looked good, obviously, but I just have, like, no attachment to this musical. Have you ever even seen it? No. Okay, so how do you know if you have an attachment? Because I've seen... Clips. Oh, my God. TikTok. TikTok is not meant to inform your life. The music is like... It's like rock music. I get that. But, like, the story of Jesus, like, I just don't... I just don't care. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to all our Christian followers. I just don't care. I don't care. That's a bold statement. I just don't care. It's just a story. Like, even... Like, I was thinking about it, and it's really... Like, I looked... It looks like I was watching the portrayal of, like, a cult. Like, just... I was talking about this to my boyfriend, like, back in the, you know, like, you know, we have, like, the Nixxiom cult.
UNKNOWN:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:The cult where they drink all the Kool-Aid. You know what I mean? Like, because they all believed that this leader knew something that they didn't. You know what I mean? This is how I feel about all organized religion. Hot take. And it's like, you know, you know about God and Jesus enough if you're, you know, like I said, we're not religious, but... To see all of Jesus' followers running after him and people questioning him, it could have just been a cult of that day that got really popular. And then they wrote a book and people still believe it to this day. But why did everyone believe Jesus when he said that he knew something we didn't? But now when cult leaders say that, they're crazy. I mean, probably the internet and more access to information and more access to science. Isn't it crazy to think about, though? I have thought a lot about this, and I feel the same way. That's why you don't really see a ton of new religions pop up all the time, except for Scientology, because there's just science. And if Jesus were alive today instead and came at this time, would we write him off as crazy? Yes. That's just wild to think about. I know. Yeah. You know, it's really not about religion. Like, you don't have to be religious to enjoy this musical, obviously. It's just a musical. But it was a life-changing experience. It was a once, hopefully twice in a lifetime experience if we can get tickets on Sunday. Okay, what are they going for at this moment? Like$400. Yikes. I know, I know. So we might just have to call it. call ourselves lucky you could just do what we were going to do for taylor swift and like go to the parking lot and wait for the show to start and see if ticket prices drop and then yeah but the problem is with the hollywood bull there's a shuttle involved and you know so we'll see i do if not we'll think of something else to do it's always a good time when the moms are in town always so on the pop culture front we had a big it's the end of an era and The end of a three-season era that felt like 30 seasons. Thank God. You didn't even watch, and just like that. I didn't watch, and I am still grateful it's going away. Okay, but I know I bitched about it non-stop, but now that it's gone, I feel like I didn't appreciate what I had. Oh, please. I mean, I just love to hate-watch it, and what am I going to hate-watch now? Are there any more episodes left? Two more episodes. Okay, well... And I didn't watch this week's episode yet because we know we have the moms in town. You cherish those last three then, I guess. I'm going to have to. And just like all the memes, like everything that the show did for social media. We have to be grateful. We have to be grateful. I guess. Just like so bad. We got Carrie pissing in the Snapple bottle. We got the big strawberry shortcake hat. I just like don't need... A lesbian Miranda. I don't need an alcoholic Miranda. I don't need. That's true. I don't need the caricature they made Charlotte out to become. This series really ruined Charlotte. Yeah. And the legacy. It ruined Charlotte's legacy. And that is a crime. And as a Charlotte myself, I take personal offense. I understand. Like you don't want your life to be portrayed as just like having kids sleeping in a small bed and having vertigo. The fact that they have a small bed is probably the biggest snafu that the show could make. Like a high-powered attorney with all this money can't afford a king bed. Maybe they just like to be close to each other. They're very in love. Nobody that's been married for one second or more wants to be that close all the time. You would know. Listen, I love my husband very dearly. The second we got a king bed, my life changed and we will never go back. And you will never sleep in a way in which you know that he exists ever again. Nope. Does he still try to cuddle? He does. And when he finds me, I'm like, how did you manage that? Yeah. He had to make a long journey. Yeah. How'd you get here? Seven layers of the candy cane forest. Sea of twirly gumdrops. Yeah. It's always a mystery. If that's the case, you should let him cuddle. It's just so hot. It's so hot. I know. I know, girl. We have window units. We have window units in this house, and they work, but not enough to cuddle. It could do better. Yeah. Anyway. What else do we got? We got some new couples, like three new couples, I think, in the celeb world. Well, there's really only one I can think of, and it's the one I told you was happening, and you said, no, it's not. And that is Pam and Liam. Okay, so apparently it is. Apparently it is. So Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson, I'm here for it. Duh. totally here for it and their movie is getting great reviews i don't think i'll see it it looks pretty dumb but you know we could all use like a light-hearted giggle i don't need an action movie no it's not an it's a comedy it's a comedy but it's also action i saw a lot of gun shooting a lot of punching a lot of what on what you saw the movie just on the trailer on the preview i've seen commercials I've seen the trailer, too, and it doesn't look that bad. I just don't need it. Maybe you could watch it and tell me how it is. You know I will. Similar to Caddyshack 2, which I did watch. You watched Happy Gilmore, too. That is what I meant. That's the second time I've done this. What were your thoughts? Well, I thought it was good. I watched the first one, and then I watched the second one a day later. I think the twist at the beginning was... fine i thought it was crazy oh like once it happened i was like okay that makes maybe because you told me there was going to be a big twist so like when it happened i was like okay yeah i mean i thought it was an enjoyable watch am i gonna go back to it in the first one right i don't know about that because it was horrendous well so much of the second one was callbacks so like it's true it really wouldn't even exist without the first one did you spot ed kelsey No, where was he? He was in the restaurant scene sitting behind Adam Sandler. Oh, good for him. So what were your thoughts on Bad Bunny and Travis Kelsey's performances? I famously stated that I thought they should get Oscar nominations. Do you agree? I agree about Bad Bunny. I don't think Travis was in it quite long enough to get an Oscar nom. Dang, but if he was? Maybe. I need to see more. I thought he's going to be, but am I right about him being the next Dwayne The Rock Johnson? It's very possible. It's happening. And then once he becomes that, Taylor will be tossed aside. I just don't think that's going to happen. Time will tell. Back to Pamela and Liam. I just love it. He hasn't really dated since the loss of his wife 15 years ago. It's got to be longer than that. Yeah, they were married for 15 years. So he deserves happiness. I think they're very sweet together. What about you? Agreed. Okay, so we'll give them a green checkmark. They're approved. What about Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau? Sure. I just like don't care enough because Katy Perry is kind of a joke to me now. So it's just like... But don't you think that that's what makes it weird? Like she's too wacky for him. He's a politician. Yeah. She is too wacky for him. That's a good point. I honestly thought she was too wacky for Orlando Bloom. Well, maybe that's why it didn't work out. I don't think that was it. I think he actually had a secret wacky side. I think he got the ick, as I have famously said. You have famously said. So you're going to give Katie and Justin your stamp of approval? I'll give them like a, we'll see. You'll put them like in a pending file. We're not going to approve them yet. We're just going to have to see. We need to get more information, more paperwork. Yeah. And then what about Tom Cruise and Ana de Armas? Now they have been rumored to be a couple for a long time, but now we're seeing the holding hands. He's in Vermont where she lives. So now I think it's fair to call them an actual couple. It's going to be a no from me, dog. That is not going to get the stamp of approval. It's going to get a denied stamp. And why is that? Because I don't want Scientology for Ana Darvis. It is quite odd. And you know who she dated before is Ben Affleck, which I thought was weird. I just don't understand anybody who gets into a relationship with Tom Cruise. Knowing what they know. Yeah. Maybe he just put a spell on her. I don't know. Like Katie Holmes. I think that he really does have powers. What do you think? I think that people think he knows something that they don't know. Like Jesus? Am I comparing Tom Cruise to Jesus right now? Is that what's happening here? It is. This is the turn we've taken. I never thought that I would be doing that. But I think that she's entranced by his power and his influence and his knowledge. In Hollywood and the film industry. So does it get your stamp of approval? You know, she knows the risks. She knows the background. She's not stupid. If she wants to go, if she wants to take this leap into Scientology, sure. I'm going to give it approved. Alright. So we're split on that one. We're split. That's about all I got for the pop culture world. Have you seen anything good? Oh, I'd like to apologize to Justin Timberlake, kind of, because apparently he has Lyme disease and if And that's why he's not singing. Then cancel the tour. That costs a lot of money. When Justin Bieber canceled his tour, he had to pay millions. Whatever. So you're going to make people pay all this money for those tickets to go watch you put the microphone on the ground? Yeah. To think that highly of yourself that people won't mind because it's still me and I'm just going to stand there. That's crazy. Cancel the tour. That sums up his personality to me, honestly. We went to see a band once that the lead singer is phenomenal and he had like strep or something and sung maybe... 85% of the show, and we were pissed. We were like, we would have rather had you cancel, reschedule, or refund us because the whole point is to see you kill it. Yeah, hit those high notes. We are seeing them again in October, so they do have a chance to redeem. Fingers crossed. I think it's just rude. Yeah, I do too, and I just think he's so obsessed with himself. Yeah, cringe. So cringe. So you want to talk about our shizzos? Yeah, let's start with Big Brother. Okay. Talk about cringe watching somebody beg for their life. I've never seen anyone cry and beg for their life like that. There was a lot of tears this week. A lot of tears. I mean, I felt sad for the person who went home, Adrienne. Me too. I was bummed. I didn't want either of them to go. And I honestly... I feel like Lauren's HOH was such... It annoys me when people... go on these shows and they try to win head of household and they're like but i don't want to make anybody upset it's like then why did you try to win head of household yeah 100 they don't try to win then she well she wants to say i won x amount of head of households yeah but i don't think it should just be about winning it should be no it's not with it exactly it's not just about winning that's the problem that's like part of it but not all but i also understand wanting to get the least amount of blood on your hands Because the person who stays is going to come for you. There's so many people in the house. The person who stays may or may not win anything. I know. Who knows? But if you put someone up, their whole side could come for you. You know what I mean? So then it comes down to who you're aligned with and how well have you done. It's a game. Play the game. They're so boring. I know. They are pretty boring. Putting Will up again, like, ugh.
UNKNOWN:Ugh.
SPEAKER_00:I know. And I didn't want Will to go home just out of principle because I think that what he's, you know, we've already said how we feel about Will. So I had a thought about that battle off to get off the block competition. Because when I was counting the differences as Julie, as Julie, when they finished and it was all circled and they're counting, I was counting the number of circles thinking, oh my God, Will got it exactly right. He just won. There's 16 circles. Yes. But what actually was true is that it wasn't how many things were different. It was just like if there's a lamp in one room on this spot and a gargoyle in the same spot in another room, that counts as one thing. But I was under the influence. That's one different difference. I was along with Will thinking that's two things. So I feel like they didn't explain the directions well enough and he would have won had they explained it properly because he was exactly correct. But you know they explained these rules to these people several times probably.
SPEAKER_01:During
SPEAKER_00:the commercial break, I'm sure they got the rules explained to them before we even heard them. I don't know. Differences are differences. A gargoyle and a lamp. That's one difference. They're different from each other. I just think, I don't know. I couldn't have been the only one in the world, me and Will, the only two who took it that way. You and Will are connected. I guess. I think that if that had been more distinctly pointed out, he would have won because he was exactly correct. Well, he didn't. And so Kelly lives to see another day. I'm sick of seeing her. Yeah. I'm sick of, I'm sick of her nominating herself and then winning crying about it. Stupid ass competitions. I just, I hate the, I hate the three nominee thing because it takes away the opportunity to like backdoor anybody, which really bothers me. Cause I like that part of big brother. You can still backdoor. Not really. Because what if they battle? That's true. That's true. That's very true. I don't like it. the other thing this week that really made me laugh is when everybody was sitting in the HOH room talking about who's super hot and Ava was like Rachel's the hottest person I've ever seen I'm like are we seeing the same person am I am I blind maybe it's just like an aura that she gives off maybe it must be like an in-person thing because I even when like her first season was on I thought Brendan was really hot and I remember thinking how in the world yeah yeah I thought that too It was horrible to say. When Lauren is in the house, you're going to sit there and be like, Rachel's the most beautiful person I've ever seen. What are you talking about? I don't think Lauren's that hot. She doesn't do it for me. She's better looking than Rachel. They're all beautiful in their own ways. Did you notice that Ava trimmed her bangs? Yes, and I'm actually rooting for her more than anybody else now. Because she trimmed her bangs? Just because she's quirky and I like her. she was like she was crying the most i know hoh ceremony but according to the eviction according to the live feeds and i didn't watch a bunch last week but i see bits and pieces on tiktok that she's the one who orchestrated getting people to vote for adrian to leave instead of will that's why she was crying so much i'm not sure if that's why she was crying but that's like something she did i guess we'll find out they'll break it down next week I also think it's funny how Morgan loves Matt 2.0 and he just does not love her back. I really find joy in that. I know. Why does unrequited crushes into the big brother house? It's horrible. We're evil. Because I think she thinks she's really hot. And so the fact that that guy doesn't like her makes me happy. I think so too. And I think that she thinks she's coming across as... She is a very cute girl. She's very pick me. There was that scene of her boxing... in her baggy jeans and I was like, ew, I hate you. But there were no guys around. I know, but she's talking to herself, hyping herself up. It was very cringe. What did you think when Rachel said she was trying to defend that horrible top? I want you to know that when I wore this outfit in 2014, girl, someone needs to go into her closet and take anything out that was purchased before 2020. Well, it's vintage. 2014 is vintage. No, I think she got it vintage in 2014. Yeah, so I don't know whether it was vintage or not. It was bad. I don't care. It was horrendous. Jimmy just never not roasting her outfits. She deserves it and you only have so much room in your suitcases and you should be bringing your best and brightest. Well, she did pack an evening gown for the viewing of Bad Guys 2. the green the emerald green evening gown she looked like um yeah what's that character that batman character maybe yeah what was that about i'm not sure where that did she say why she wore the evening gown no but i love that later on there was another clip of people helping her get into it i didn't see that maybe it might have been on a live feed but i think it was later in the episode where they were like okay take a deep breath like trying to zip it up and like shimmy her into it The last time she wore it was 2014. That'd be like me trying to put my wedding dress on now. Suck it in. No, really. It's endearing, but don't you think that she should be wearing that evening gown for when she's HOH or something? It makes me wonder how many evening gowns did she pack? That's what I'm saying. And remember she was wearing that red gown? That asymmetrical red gown? Uh-huh, uh-huh. So are we going to see these gowns again? Because you wore that red gown on just a random day, I feel like. Well, same with the green. That was to see bad guys too, okay? That was for an event. In that house, that is an event. Time and truth will tell all. I have one more thought that I would die if I were stuck in a room alone with Keanu. No, that would be my worst nightmare. I would actually die. Or Riley, to be honest, because what's going off about him on the live feeds is that he's like super creepo. Really? Yeah. Well, then in that case, Keanu, it's not because he's creepy or you know what I mean? It's just annoying. Yeah. Like mentally, he's just not. He's just not clicking with me. Same with Kelly, I feel. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be trapped with either one of them. Keanu would be my worst case. Yeah. But anyway, do you have any other thoughts? No, we can move on to happily ever after. Oh, we're going in a different, interesting order today. I figure we should just throw Bravo to the back half always. Okay. So we got Adnan and Tiger Lily with his dangerous driving again. I think that's grounds for a breakup. There's so many things that this man has done that are grounds for a breakup.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But he likes the log cabin with the shit everywhere. Is it clocking to you now? It's finally clocking to this loser. He's the worst. Like, she's pregnant with his child. I would jump out of that car as soon as it got to a red light and I would walk and I would never see him again. Well, here's the thing that I don't understand is, like, can he even legally drive in the U.S.? Probably not. No, you can because my boyfriend's driven, like, in Australia. Yeah. Your husband drove in Thailand, too. He did. He did. That was crazy. Yeah, I don't know. And he should be on his best behavior because his fate is in her hands. I don't think he cares. I think his hubris is such that he doesn't give a... He's also 23 years old. That frontal lobe is not fully developed. Are you shitting me? No. He's 23? Correct. He's a child. Yes.
UNKNOWN:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:He just wants to have fun and drive a cool car. Correct. Oh no, how old is Tiger Lil? 41. We've been over this. What did I say last time? I think you had a similar reaction. I am floored. Oh my gosh, she is old enough to be his mother. I know. And she's pregnant with his child. I know. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that was hard to watch just because it's hard to watch him put her and his unborn child in danger like that. But the whole nobody can see my wife's belly thing, that's very standard for him. Yeah, that didn't really surprise me. So they didn't have a whole lot else for them. I think the biggest upset to me on this whole episode was Brandon's mom's hair. What was going on there, Miss Betty? Whoever is doing that to her should be arrested. And I sent you a clip or a picture of her hairdo photoshopped onto Brandon's face. Oh, I saw that. Yes. I'm sorry I didn't reply. It's so funny because it just goes to prove he's a carbon copy of his mom. That is creepy. I know. Also, like, what has gotten into them? Like, the acting is so bad from these parents. Like, I haven't seen... acting that bad since last week's In Just Like That? Is the acting bad or are they just terrible? Like the fact that they think so there's like there's lots of rumors going around about them one being that they're swingers apparently that's like a well-known rumor that they're swingers why they can't that's is that why they have to be naked when they go in their hot tub yeah i guess so and then also like the reason why they have to have a dedicated bedroom at their house an hour and a half away is because when they come over they just always get too drunk to drive home how are you learning of these things let me guess how are the tiktoks learning of these things I don't know. Anyone could just go on TikTok and make this shit up. You have to remember that. I know, but this is also a safe assumption because when they video called in from their swingers cruise to the last resort when Julia and Brandon were there, they were very clearly intoxicated. Oh, I don't remember that. You might need to go back and watch it again. Yeah. I thought when they were freaking out outside, it was just a little much for me. It was a little forced. Maybe it was, but I just think Brandon is such a little bitch boy. Always. Having her parents come visit for a month, going to the doctor for a second opinion shouldn't be a trade-off for that. No. You should just let the parents come visit. Yeah. That's like what you do when you marry someone. She freaking lived with Ron and Betty for years. The woman deserves a medal. Yeah, I couldn't do it. I'd rather just go back to Russia. I go back to Russia. I go back. Yeah. Kira and Guillermo, what did they give us? Not much. Until the end when she kicked him out. She kicked him out of the house? Yes. Why? She didn't really specify why, but it must have been a big fight. Dude, I don't remember this at all. Tell me what happened. No. So towards the end, so they have their whole, she has her bachata practice and she looks smoking hot and that purple outfit gear was in his restaurant saying that he still hates her music so much and doesn't want to go to the club. Um, and her, his friend is telling him to try and blah, blah, blah. And then at the end of the episode, we get like a clip of her sort of self recording saying Guillermo moved out, uh, And then she said, I had to ask him to leave, a.k.a. she kicked him out. But she didn't say why. No, she's saying I hope some time and space does us well. I hope time and truth tells all. It's not looking good for them. Well, I guess then we'll have to pick that back up next week. I did listen to her song Lento. And? You know, it's not for me. I, too, like the old school regular bachata better. Okay. but at least you're trying to be supportive i am which is more than guillermo can say that's true all right well we'll put a pin in them uh libby and andre they get to moldova and immediately Andre has taken over and is throwing a party for them moving in telling everybody this in a language she cannot understand fully. I would die. She has no idea what's going on. Everyone is just like their fireworks going off. And she's like, why? It's the it's the craziest thing. This dude is delusional. And that is also grounds for a breakup. Yes. And six people have to share one bathroom in his family's apartment. Can you imagine? He is certifiable. He is. And she's just gonna stay with him. Well, they've been together this long. What he did was unacceptable. But she is... And she didn't have her luggage. She didn't have her luggage. Eight suitcases. Which, in this case, I mean, we commended Shamia for, you know, forging ahead without her suitcases. But in this case, girl needs her suitcases. I mean, she's got kids. It's probably full of stuff for the kids. Like, Watching them travel, they have two kids. That's it. I know. And traveling, I mean, it looks hellish. Traveling with children looks absolutely hellish. I don't know that I would take kids that little abroad like that. She had no choice. I know that, but, you know, luckily I didn't marry someone from Moldova who was going to make me move to Moldova. Yeah, luckily you didn't marry... an asshole also she's she just like is also the type where she has said before like I respect his leadership and it's like barf yeah so then she gets what she gets she deserves it is telling everyone that you move to Moldova yeah like if my husband said you need to respect my leadership I would laugh in his face yeah I mean there's a difference between respecting your husband in general yeah and like your leadership is that a joke no yeah your co-leaders yeah And if anyone's the leader. Obviously. It's me. Obviously. And then we have Gino and Jasmine. Jasmine is right where we left her. She's right where we left her. Yeah, right in the middle of the street surrounded by her shit and then it's raining and she's just getting rain all over her shit. I thought it was crazy Gino talking in the car on the way home like maybe there's hope for us. Not a lot, but maybe a little bit. I'm like, shut up. Was that for the sake of the show? I assume it's for a paycheck. Yes. And like, how much is he getting paid that he comes back season after season and volunteers to embarrass himself like this? It's got to be a lot because he remember when she moved to Michigan, he quit his job. I don't think he ever got another one. This dude does not work. he doesn't have to so he's living off what cost because he's humiliating himself every single day i don't i actually don't think he's embarrassed i don't so do you think he just doesn't watch the episodes but i think he has a big ego and just doesn't see himself the way that the world sees him he doesn't read the comments he doesn't live in the comments section probably not
SPEAKER_01:oh
SPEAKER_00:i know And just like him being at the thrift store talking about air fresheners and trying on all those stupid ass hats. I'm not going to lie. I fast forwarded that section. I'm so sick of this man. And then he's like talking to his new girl in the middle of the thrift store with a hat on. Natalie. And he's like, I'd love to invite you to Michigan. And she's like, great. What's there to do? And it's like, see what he's doing at a thrift store. There it is. That's what you do. You get to try on a bunch of used hats. No shade against thrift stores. No shade. But also, I've been dragged to many a goodwill. And? I just... I don't find wins enough for it to be worth it. Yeah, I agree. It's like too much work. But that's coming from a place of privilege, I guess. Yeah, that's just us. We're just lazy. Yeah, and it's like I don't have money to buy good clothes, but like... I'd rather just not buy any. Yeah. Real quick, did you see that The Bachelor spoke out? No, what'd he say? He said he was sorry, I think. He deserved all the hate. ABC probably made him do that. So they could still air it. Yeah, exactly. What else we got? Want to go over to the Bravosphere? Well, did we miss anybody? I feel like we didn't get a lot of couples on this episode. We didn't get Darcy and Georgie... Which I was fine with. No, we didn't get Yara and Joby. We didn't get Lauren and Alexi. See? Want to move over to Bravo? Yes. So let's get Atlanta out of the way then. I guess I'm just like not as enthused about this season as I thought I was. Right? It started off strong, but we did finally learn why Portia and Shamia's moms don't talk to each other anymore. But it's very she said, she said. Yeah. Yeah. The truth is probably somewhere in between. And it is a bummer that their friendship appears to be in a worse place than I even thought that it was. And there's so much she said, like the private friend group that's telling them that Portia didn't want Shamian to get a peach, but Portia's saying that she was asking Andy to give her a peach and Andy was backing her up. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the fact that Andy backed her up was very telling. And you know what else I've never seen is him give advice. He gave advice to Shamia. Like, you need to be more open and you need to communicate when you need to vocalize your feelings. What's happening with Andy? What do you mean? He's overstepping. I didn't see it as such. I was okay with it. I guess, but it's like, are you their therapist now or are you the host? A little bit of both. I mean, they text him at all hours of the day and night. I mean, he's probably always having to therapize. That's true. I do think Shamia seems more receptive to feedback and she's quicker to apologize, whereas Portia will just disengage. 100%. But yeah, Housewives Rule 101, like, don't go on the show if you want to keep your husband or your friend. Yeah, and there was Charles. I love how Andy called him out saying, like, viewers... Think you don't like her. Oh my gosh, I died. What did you think of his explanation? Was that enough for you? No, I still think he hates her. He showed up on camera so many times. Even Shamia's husband wouldn't do that. So I think there's love there. Maybe. Very sad about her mom. Oh yeah, that was horrible. Her mom that didn't want to live in the house that Angela bought for her. Yep, her ungrateful mom has passed. We got Drew and Ralph. That didn't do much for me. Never does. I love that even when they're, like, fighting with each other, they can so quickly turn it into a funny moment where they're all just laughing. Yeah. And it just makes everything feel lighter, you know, like, even in dark moments. Yeah. And, like, Miami can't do that. No, they don't joke after. Like, they're not, like, fighting one second, laughing the next. My other thought is Dennis seems like a good guy. Why did they break up? Have I asked you this before? I'm not really sure why they broke up. But maybe there's hope that those two can make it work and get back together. Who do you think the biggest MVP of the season was? Let's say it at the same time. Ready? One, two, three. Angela. Shamia.
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SPEAKER_00:thought it was Shamia. I'm a fan. I'm a fan, Angela. Oh, okay. She thanked me. She thanked all her Fangelas. I don't dislike her. I'd love to have her back. I just thought Shamia did more. Maybe you're right. You know what? Shamia literally threw a friendship down the toilet for this show. Well, I don't think that she did that intentionally. No, but it still happened. What do we think is going to happen next season? Any predictions? I think they can move over the same cast and maybe just add one more person. Like one Kenya Moore? Like one Kenya Moore. And Phaedra can be there the whole season. Yes, obviously. I like where this is going. Me too. All right, where do you want to go next? Miami? Yeah, so... I didn't have much there. Other than Kiki just, like, blowing me away with her Barbie. She looks like a Barbie in every outfit she wore. They all had great yacht outfits. Great yacht outfits. Adriana being super waisted. Love to see it. Do love to see that. She's having the time of her life. She's on a yacht, man. Like, fuck, let live a little. Let her live. Yeah, I think, I don't, I mean, I don't want to say that it was like a filler episode, but. No, because it was fun, but there wasn't much to take away from it. It was just an enjoyable, easy breezy watch. What do you make of the Alexia versus Stephanie situation? I don't know why that happened because Alexia just kind of butted into what stephanie was talking about with somebody else or something she's just like alexia's just like very defensive like even if she said something first if you say it also she's gonna get mad yeah totally and then did you see julia was on watch what happens live oh i haven't seen it how was that she said that she and martina do share a bed but they do not share a brain and she does not agree with what she tweeted about surrogacy nice okay she just addressed it head-on and i liked that me too all right so there's that and that's pretty much all i got there surprised so what about orange county oh orange county can i say that i was right about joe de la rosa oh of course you are oh my god it was so good to see her again it's just so classic tamra I was giddy. To show up with Joe at an event that Gretchen and Slade are at. It's like, just... I was giddy. Is there a world where Joe could come back? Never say never at this point. Let's bring Gina Kehoe back in too while we're at it. I would say let's bring Lori in, but between her and Jen, I would never know the difference between them because they are the same. Same. Yeah, that might be tricky. Like if she's single white female-ing anyone, it's Lori. Yeah, totally. Totally. I just feel like... I don't know how much longevity Katie has here on this show. Because even at that coffee, Heather's like, I want you to have a win. But she keeps doing the wrong thing. I know. And she addresses these things like they're not a big deal. Like, yeah, I met with a blogger, so what? I like her journalism, she said. I died when she said that. I was like, who are we kidding here? Also... Nobody's got a blog. If these are podcasters, just say podcasters. Just say podcasters. Yeah. Nobody's got a blog. And they're not journalists. No. God. Don't call them that. Let's call everything what it is. A podcaster, a TikToker, not a blogger. Yeah. I just like don't really have a connection to Katie because I don't know her. Well, I mean, I don't know. I can't say that I know her either because she doesn't tell truths. Yeah, she's pathological. You know, what's funny is I'm watching OC from the beginning right now. And the part that I'm on is Heather is throwing a party, like a hoedown for the groundbreaking of her house. It's like this big plot of land. And so she's throwing this big grand party. And then I turn on the new season and she's throwing a big grand party. But is this the same house that she's trying to sell? It is not. Do you remember when they bought all that land? Oh, yes. So did they build a house there? They did. And then what? And then they sold it. Why? It didn't feel right for them anymore. Why? I'm not entirely sure. They do this a lot. They got bored. And then this other house now, what is going on with this? They never lived in it. They bought it thinking they were going to remodel it from the ground up. And now that all her kids have moved out, she's decided... Maybe that wasn't the best move, but I think what really happened is they wanted to move back to LA desperately. She was vying for a role on Beverly Hills and Bravo said, we're going to keep you on Orange County. So it didn't make sense for them to have that house in the LA Hills. I would like to see her with the Beverly Hills girls. I feel like they could use her. I have long felt like that could work out, but I don't think, like, I think that's my theory as to what's happening with these houses. Yeah. but do you think i don't think that orange county needs her i think that that they should move her to beverly hills to help boost them well the only reason i would say that orange county does need her is because she's the only one with like real money yeah but that's what we want from all of our franchises i like sometimes i like to see them struggle it's a it's a balance because i do want the um wish fulfillment but at the same time just wait till you get to the early days of gina and the casita days you'll change your your tune okay because i mean sometimes it's like nice to know that these ladies are worse off than me you know she certainly was for a time and jen too right well she's got ryan and he's got a lot of money money that he didn't pay taxes on allegedly well neither does jacks Allegedly. We can transition, but I do like, would like to say, I do like stone Terry saying, what's up? So good. So good. I was just going to say, I love that. They like labeled Heather's birthday, secondary observance for her$80,000 birthday. 53 days later. What did you make of Tamara and Jen's fight at the end? You know, that's another one that I'm just not really attached to because I don't know their history and it just kind of rambled on to me. Do you have any coherent thoughts? I just think, like, what's the point of going to have a sit down with somebody if you're if neither are going to let the other speak? Yeah. Yeah. Clearly, we're not ready for the sit down then. No. So far, these women are not doing that much for me, I have to say. I disagree. I love Orange County. Except for Joe. bring back joe just because i'm i'm in such a different place with orange county right now with the tv and i just like when i see this it just makes me sad that i'm not watching season nine i get that but that's like my own personal problem it makes sense my other question is is it actually illegal to film someone without their consent because isn't that what tiktok is Yes. In California, actually, it is illegal to record someone. The word is record. So video or audio without their consent. But like, don't we all whip out our phones and record people? Yes, but you take the chance as a regular civilian that someone you've recorded isn't going to find you and sue you for that. Like I recorded Cynthia Erivo last night. Is she going to sue me? Probably not. You know? We can only hope Adam Lambert too. I could have them all coming after me. I remember this. Well, for the most part, when you're, I think the rules are different when you're a celebrity, because I recall learning about this law when I was studying radio in college, you should have learned this law as well. That like back in the day, you could record somebody on the phone and play it on the air without their consent. And like, people would get in a lot of trouble and like get exposed for things and blah, blah, blah. You are certainly not allowed to do that anymore. Yes, that I do know. You can't record a phone call. If you hear anything on the radio, the person consented to that. And I think the same goes for a video recording. And I think most people don't know or don't care or whatever, but because Shannon is Shannon, she's going to probably Sue. I don't know. We'll see. Time will tell. Yeah. Should we head over to the Valley? You know, I was, uh, I was entertained by the, by the part one of the reunion. Me too. And I thought Janet looked absolutely stunning. Why not just admit to being on Ozempic though? If you're going to say Adderall and Pilates, just say you're on Ozempic. Well, maybe it really was Adderall and Pilates. Sure. Oh, your kiddos has joined us. Lily, do you have any thoughts? What do you think about Janet's new look? Did you have thoughts on Janet? I think she liked it. She does like to watch my shows with me. I thought the revelation of Brittany hooking up with porn stars and leaving condoms on the floor was shocking. Brittany hooking up with porn stars? Yes, Jack said that she was hooking up with porn stars and leaving condoms on the floor. And she said, at least I use them. She did not deny it. why did that happen in such a flash we didn't spend enough time on that i know i'm like what porn stars like that is that didn't like that didn't register with me i did not talk with you loser no my god so why did britney decide to like spill all the dirty details now at the reunion do you think of like the abuse because he's gonna make this nasty The divorce. He wants alimony. He's going to make it nasty. But I think if you're abusive, you don't get all of that stuff. So now she's like under the gun to get it all out there. Yeah. I like how she accused him of all of these things. Like you pushed me into the ring cam. You threw things at me. And, you know, I literally lost all of my sparkle. That was like the worst part. She literally lost it all. I would have been like, you're abusive, sir. And then he's because then it ended with him being like enough of the sparkle. Yeah. You know, he's like, yeah, I've had enough of the sparkle. Honestly, same. I know. Like, why is that? Why is that the period at the end of the sentence? Why can't Jason represent Jesse in his divorce? He doesn't do that kind of law. Oh, damn. Nor do I think Jesse. I think he wants to represent himself. you said i was talking to my lawyer it's his it's the ones he has on retainer as consultants okay so you were talking to yourself that was so funny it was i love jesse so much um but i'm again i'm so mad so so mad that they taped this in march in may i know i know that we're not getting like the erin breakup but i do think they're picking up cameras pretty soon What do you make of some people feeling sorry for Jax now because he's parting ways with Jax's bar and some could argue he has nothing left? People feel sorry for him? Only one person that I know of. Who? Just another podcaster. I don't feel sorry for him in the sly test. Me neither, obviously. And I am a fan of him on my television, but I don't feel sorry for him that he has nothing. That's what he deserves. I agree. And like when he was explaining all the reasons he went to rehab, the first thing he said was work. Then he said his kid. I know, I know. Again, my job and my kid are the most important things. I did notice that. So... Very telling. But you know, I mean, I do... As someone who I need my job, like if I got fired, I would be screwed because I don't have like a huge savings. I'd be homeless. Yeah. So I do understand like how that's most important because you can't take care of your kid if you have no money. True. But you don't have to say it that way. Yeah. In his defense, I see his train of thought, but it just didn't look good. Did you see the pictures of Jesse with a tongue ring? No. You liked it. No, I thought he was like a completely different person than I thought he was. Maybe he was in his youth. People are allowed to change. Who was the guy with the tongue ring in Sex and the City? That wasn't Bradley Cooper's character, was it? No, but I know what you're talking about. But there was one. He was a young guy. It was giving that. Yeah. And then we have Nia and Danny. Officially moved to Santa Clarita. And he said it's 18 minutes. That's bullshit. Maybe from Sherman Oaks. Maybe at midnight. I've seen a lot of reports that Sheena is a done deal for next season. Is that true? I don't know that it would make sense, but I would like to see Lala in addition. Oh, I don't need her at all. Really? No. I don't know. I would like, I think she could add. She does nothing for me. The more the merrier. Let's get Tom Schwartz. Let's get Katie back. I don't know that Katie wants that. I'd love Katie to darken our doorsteps. Let's get Joe. Let's get spooky Joe. Oh, my God. We're getting carried away. I miss spooky Joe. Isn't she friends with Kristen?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:They could work her in. She was the best TV of all time. That's...
SPEAKER_01:I don't know about all that.
SPEAKER_00:And then... This is really dark. But I think we should... No, I'm not going to say it. Well, now you have to. I'm sure you can guess. Is it Sandoval? No. Worse. You want Jax to remain. Worse. What could be? Oh, no. No. I know it could never happen. It's an impossible dream. And I shouldn't even call it a dream. You don't even like DJ James Kennedy anymore. I know, but I miss who he used to be. That's who he used to be is who he was. It's always been that way. I just miss. No, I can't say anymore. No, you certainly cannot. Digging myself in a deeper hole. Do you think that Tom and Tom and Jax will go in together on one last? Oh, Jesus Christ. I can't take that on. I can't even take that on. Do you? Perhaps located in Pasadena or something. I don't know. No, it would be like probably like Sherman Oaks or something. Yeah. No, I do not. None of them have any money remaining. So what are they all going to do? They all have these fancy apartments. Perhaps we'll see them bartending at Tom Tom yet again. It's all clicking. It's finally clocking to me. They're going to go back. and be on the new Vanderpump Rules. They're actually going to be working there again for real like they were in the first place. It's just like they're right back. How poetic is that? How poetic? That would be great. Jax, Tom, and Tom. We watched them rise and then fall and they're right back where they started. And they have the chance to evolve again. It's like reincarnation. That would be amazing. Oh my god. I would love that. Who can we talk to about this? Let's get Andy on the phone. I know someone who knows someone who's friends with Lisa Vanderpump. That's right, you do. Let's get her on the phone. I'm two connections away. Two degrees of separation. Maybe we can make this happen. You start to work on that. Okay. And then I have one more thing I'd like to say. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Lil. I should have said it off the top. It was your birthday yesterday. It was my b-day yesterday. Thank you. That's what you did. You did something very Housewives coded. I went to a head spa. It was so magical. Basically, for 75 minutes, I had somebody massage my scalp and then wash my hair. And did it feel like extra clean and shiny? Did they condition? So I have one... Just a tiny bit of feedback. Okay, let's hear it. So they did not condition, but that doesn't bother me because I don't always condition my hair either because I have incredibly oily hair. This is the thing about me. I have super oily hair. So at the beginning of the massage, it was a warm oil scalp massage, which is great because then they're going to wash my hair after, which they did. Two shampoos, two.
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SPEAKER_00:But then after the shampoos were done, they went in for another oil massage, not of my scalp, but of my shoulders, neck and face, which felt great. But then they got oil like all up in the bottom roots, you know, and didn't they didn't rinse any of it off. So like as I went to go blow dry my hair, it didn't. was like my hair was like sitting on my neck and shoulders which was covered in oil and like obviously all the bottom roots had all this oil so i would say don't get it in the roots and also wash it off when you're done just do better yeah maybe the second wash can be at the very end yeah like to get everything squeaky clean put a comb through it after um There was a point where there was a comb happening, but then they wrapped it in a towel wrap. Okay. So I had to brush again. How did it get on the bottom roots? Because my hair wasn't wrapped up when they did the final massage. So that's my only complaint. But otherwise, so amazing. I would totally do it again. I feel like I would need conditioner because my hair isn't oily anymore. Congrats. But it has bleach in it, so I feel like I need the conditioner. So that would be my pet peeve, and I need you to put a comb through it several, several times. Well, after you're done, they take you to the room where you first changed in, and you can blow dry your hair, and they have all of the leave-in conditioners, et cetera, for you. That is very cool. So you were blow drying your hair in their spot. So Got it. Okay. Yeah. So maybe put that in a Yelp review so they can hear it. You know, I have one other hair complaint and I, nobody listens, but like, I still don't throw the salon under the bus, but I will say like, I have a zoom filter on to look really good right now. So I don't think you can tell for me. Thank you. Just, it's like, like my consistent zoom setting. And there's also, I refuse to use Google meets. But anyway, so back in June, I, I get my hair done once every three months or so because my roots come in really fast and I have a lot of grays and blah, blah, blah. So I have a girl in Burbank that I love that I've been going to for so long, but I really can only go back to LA like twice a year for a haircut. So I needed somewhere else in New York to go the other two times. So in June, I went to get my hair done by this woman who had cut my hair back when we lived in Hoboken during the pandemic. And I remember it being expensive, but like the best haircut I ever had. So I went back to her, like knowing I was going to pay a lot. She did increase her prices, like a root touch up and a cut. I walked out the door paying$700. No. And I, I couldn't have made it more simple. I like said, look at the color of the rest of my hair. It is the darkest Brown without going full black. Please do that on my roots. I don't know what she's done, but I have a very like, like a ring that, of faded like red hair now from where she did my roots in quotes and so much so that like when i went to my in-laws last weekend my mother-in-law said you got highlights and i said no this is what happens when you flush 700 down the toilet you gotta go back i for what for them to mess it up further But you paid$700. You got to get what you want. I'm just never going back again. And perhaps one day I'll say who it was on this just to get some revenge. Yeah, because the two people that listen that don't live in New York will really care. But I do have an appointment when I'm back in LA in September to get it fixed with my normal girl. We're actually going to start going natural so I can worry less. This isn't the worst thing then. It's just like I have to live this whole month with this crazy red ring. And what's worse is it's not even the same color as my roots that are now coming in. So I have three. I'm like a zebra. Like that, you paid$700. I would go. I would call them. Can you believe? I have gone back twice to people when I didn't like what they did with my hair. It's just been a big set. I feel as though it's been too long now. But now it's starting to fade, and now you're getting your roots. So you didn't have three colors before. Now you do. You know what's so crazy, too, is as I was sitting in the chair, she goes, just so you know, you would kill it as a redhead. And I'm thinking, did she do this on purpose so that I could see what it would look like? I do think you would, actually. If that's the route you want to go. I don't know that I could deal with the upkeep of red hair. That's true. I've made the decision. I told my gal in Burbank that we're going to start phasing in my natural hair I love I don't know how she's going to do it but she's got a plan she was excited she was telling me that the plan it's going to be highlights obviously to start and then we'll go from there I want you to brace yourself for not liking the highlights at first no I know I'm ready I just I can't I'm getting a lot of grays and my hair is very very dark yeah so it's, I can't afford to go often enough to cover my grades as much as I would like to. So we have to do something. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that she's going to do a bad job, but you know, she'll do great. I know it'll be an adjustment though. Well, that's exciting. I know. Sorry for that tangent. I just never told you that. No, I can't believe I'm upset for you and I would go back if I were you 100% as awkward as it is. I'll take a better picture in the bathroom and send it to you so you can see what I'm dealing with. And send it to that lady in New York so she knows what she did. Do it. I'm not going to do that. I know it's hard. I know it's hard. One time I went back, I called this hair salon that fried my hair and the manager or the owner was like, I'm so sorry. I'm going to set you up with our top hairstylist and we're going to fix you and everything's going to be great. And so I did all that. And then at the end, they were like, okay, it's going to be X amount of money. And I was like, no. Did you pay it? No. Did they let you not pay it? Yes. Yes. I was like but it was so awkward I was like because the guy told me like we'll take care of it and I said like the guy told me that you'll take care of it but to have to say that is so awkward yeah yeah I hate having to do things like that but I do them me too no you're not do it no I mean like I hate it as well I left I left a nail salon once Okay, now your next step is sending that picture to the woman and telling her, I just want you to know what you did. If nothing else, so she can do better next time. But she's styled hair for TV shows and stuff.$700 is a crock of shit. Maybe she was having a bad day. Whatever it was, you deserve better. You paid almost$1,000. I know. Well, I'm just never doing it again. I mean, even I only pay like$4 or$5 for... I mean, I certainly didn't pay that much in L.A. when I was going. Anyway, well, sorry that that happened to you. Happy birthday. I'm sorry that we had the best night of our lives on your birthday. I had a good night, too. My husband made me some delicious dinner. It was a good day. Yeah, it was delightful. But it wasn't like the best day of your life, like what we had here at Jesus Christ Superstar. What are you going to do with the moms today? I think we might go to the beach. What are you going to do? You're going to brunch tomorrow. Yes, with the in-laws. I think today I might go to HomeGoods. I have my eye on a specific Halloween decoration. That's crazy. Did you see it on the internet? I did. I saw it on TikTok and I need to have it. What is it? It's just a witch's broom that lights up and it's just cool and I want it next to my fireplace. I can't explain why, but I need it next to my fireplace. That's valid.
UNKNOWN:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Not yet, obviously. Like, I'll wait till October 1st. Well, the problem with home goods is, like, if I don't act now, all the good stuff will be gone. I know, but it's August. It's just the beginning of August. I love fall. I know, but we were just in fall, Lil. Like, it's very disturbing. I can't go there because I seriously will spiral the fact that fall is around the corner again. When I just blinked and we were in fall, like... Do you not get it? What don't you get about it? Okay, well, let's not spiral. You go have a good day with the moms. Enjoy the sliver of summer I have left that's going to be over in one more blink. Yep, and I'll go to HomeGoods. And next time I see you, it'll probably be fall. Because that's how time works. Okay. Thanks, everyone, for riding with us. Thanks for riding with us. See you next week. Happy birthday, Lil!
UNKNOWN:Thank you! Bye.
