Rather Be Rotting
Rather Be Rotting is the ultimate escape for pop culture obsessives and reality TV junkies. Hosted by two sisters who’d always rather be rotting on the couch, this show is a love letter to Bravo marathons, niche celebrity drama, and the kind of useless-but-essential pop culture knowledge that clogs their brains (and now, your ears). Whether they’re deep-diving into reality TV chaos or spiraling over a red carpet moment, these two are here to talk about everything that doesn't matter—but means everything to them.
Rather Be Rotting
20 - RHOSLC, RHOM, RHOC, Big Brother, The Amazing Race, 90 Day TOW and 90 Day HEA
Selena Gomez is getting married this weekend and the gals want pics! We're also one week away from a new Taylor album, can you believe?! Lil and Madelyn of course get into the currently airing shows (Big Brother, The Real Housewives of Miami, The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and 90 Day Happily Ever After) as well as add The Amazing Race and 90 Day The Other Way to the lineup!
Welcome to Rather Be Roman. We're the two sisters who should really be doing something more productive that excites all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos. Because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be ramen.
SPEAKER_02:Happy wedding day to Selena Gomez. Oh my god. Taylor has touched down. Will there be pictures? There have been pictures already of the rehearsal dinner.
SPEAKER_01:What? Where?
SPEAKER_02:Page six. I didn't see any Taylor, but I saw Marty, Stevie, and Paul. Paul Rudd, my man, my man.
SPEAKER_01:Paul Rudd.
SPEAKER_02:Paul Rudd, he was in Only Murders also.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_02:How dare! Literally, the best part of that show was Paul Rudd's story arc.
SPEAKER_01:R.I.P.
SPEAKER_02:Spoiler. Oh, look at that. There he is. A lot of the pictures look like they were taken by somebody at this party.
SPEAKER_01:Well, on Instagram there's only like a handful, so.
SPEAKER_02:Either way, like some of them are like it's almost like someone was at one of the tables and like wow, one of her guests is already selling her out.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe she said it was okay. Maybe she invited somebody from page six.
SPEAKER_02:Is that who you would invite? I feel like she would rather she'd prefer Vogue.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I would personally, but who am I to tell her how to live her life?
SPEAKER_02:And I'm like not the biggest fan. Like, I don't think she has that much talent, but I do think that she's worthy of a better wedding spread than page six. Yes. I'll give you that. She's a big star. She's a big star. Anyway, we have one less than a week until the new album drops. So that's exciting. I know she's if she's at Selena's wedding tonight, she won't be at the Chiefs game tomorrow, but she hasn't really been, except like, you know, in disguise or behind a wall. Which is I don't know what to I don't know what to make with that. But so Thursday night at 9 p.m. my time, midnight your time, are you gonna stay up and listen?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so we can debrief.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And it will be like 1:30 in the morning for you.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we'll obviously debrief the next day.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. I just remember it's like one of my favorite parts because I remember like when we were separated and we were listening to All Too Well, the new one, the 10-minute version, and we were just texting each other, like, wow, this is scathing, you know? And then when we were listening to Torture Poets Department, you were telling me, like, you're gonna like this one, or you're gonna like that one, or wait till you hear this one, you know. It's just like I love that part.
SPEAKER_01:So good. I cannot wait.
SPEAKER_02:Me neither. Anyway, other than that, there like wasn't that much going on in the world, I feel like.
SPEAKER_01:Um, no, not too much personally. That was a fun little dance. What was that fun little dance about? The news I'm about to share. I just well, I didn't just find out, but I passed my glucose test.
SPEAKER_02:Congratulations. Thank you. So now you can just eat whatever you want. You can give the baby pure sugar and it'll come out just like you.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I need to, you know, I passed by the skin of my teeth because all my numbers were very close to not passing.
SPEAKER_02:Which, as we've as we've said, that's your MO. Like your your talent is just barely passing things.
SPEAKER_01:Correct. So it was really on brand. Um, but it does tell me that I need to be careful because they are gonna test me again later.
SPEAKER_02:You gotta get your shit together, girl.
SPEAKER_01:I had to test earlier than most people because of the PCOS of it all. And I need to just say, for anybody going through the three-hour glucose test, it's horrible. There's gotta be a better way to do this. It's 2025. You need to wake up.
SPEAKER_02:Just call me Vicky Gumbleson. So that's her MO is storing when people are talking too long and getting boring, and I'm stealing it. It's not boring. I mean, I have to get used to listening to all this shit because it's only gonna get worse as this kid is born and gets old. I'm gonna have to hear about every fucking ballet recital, every I guess it's a boy, so he might do ballet. Yeah, he very we hope that he will.
SPEAKER_01:No, the real reason I'm happy I passed the test is because we have booked our baby moon. Oh, it coincides with a work trip that I was forced into, another international work trip, this time to Sweden.
SPEAKER_02:Much closer than Australia.
SPEAKER_01:Still not great. Eight-hour flight, you know, it's not ideal. It's better than like 16. It is. So we decided why don't we just bring my husband along? We'll do the days in Sweden, and then we're gonna go to Copenhagen. And what I really wanted to do is eat all the pastries, and now I can.
SPEAKER_02:And don't they have like a lot of cheese? Can you eat the cheese?
SPEAKER_01:Only if it's pasteurized, so we'll have to be careful there. But do your research. Obviously, Danishes are there.
SPEAKER_02:Are you gonna eat the ones with fruit inside? You know, maybe.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Well, congratulations. I'm very jealous. I'm very happy for you.
SPEAKER_01:It's gonna be really fun. Do you want me to bring you back a sous-vie?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I would say bring me a sweet treat, but when am I gonna get my hands on it?
SPEAKER_01:So I don't know how that would how that would happen.
SPEAKER_02:We can figure that out off mic.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, what what how was your week?
SPEAKER_02:Well, as I I did tell you, but I had a big accomplishment myself. I completed my New Year's resolution and doubled it.
SPEAKER_01:You read two books.
SPEAKER_02:I read two books. My new year's resolution was to read a book, which is the sad state of how I live my life. I love to read, but I just don't because there's so much good TV and and and movies and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Hence the pod.
SPEAKER_02:Hence the pod, you know, like how can I fit a book in? But you know, I did. I read my second one in like one weekend, and I just I loved I loved reading, and I proved that I still can, which is really good. And I remember like a couple years ago on Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper's New Year's Live, they interviewed Issa Ray, and they asked her her New Year's resolution, and she said, I think I want to read a book because I don't read books and I I think it's fucking me up. Oh. And I think, yeah, I think it does fuck you up when you don't read.
SPEAKER_01:So what books did you read?
SPEAKER_02:I read this book called Malibu Rising by the author of Daisy Jones and the Six. It was pretty good. And then I read this book called The Housemaid That's Going to Become a Movie with Amanda Seifrid, Sidney Sweeney, Squinar. Well, it was really good. Really good.
SPEAKER_01:I love to read. I read all the time, mostly on vacation, but I I can get through several books on a vacation.
SPEAKER_02:I know. I have seen you read, and it's really weird. You look at the page for like a second and then you turn it. Like I don't understand.
SPEAKER_01:I am a fast reader. That I don't have a lot of skills, I don't have a lot of useful skills.
SPEAKER_02:That is a no, but I feel like that's like a a thing where you can like look at the page and take it all in at one time.
SPEAKER_01:You know, only if it's here's the problem with that talent of mine is it's only if I'm interested in the material. Like it did not benefit me in school at all because if I didn't find it interesting, it wasn't getting retained.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So that's unfortunate.
SPEAKER_02:Still cool.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, shall we jump in? Where would you like to begin?
SPEAKER_02:Let's begin on I want to save the best for last, but I want to start with Salt Lake. And I have three words for you. Maybe two, I can't tell. Gout dick sucker. This is right.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's probably three.
SPEAKER_02:So I was too scared to Google. Can can penises get gout?
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to Google either, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02:Like that's the biggest. This episode left us so many unanswered questions. Can penises get gout? What was the deal with Lisa's eye?
SPEAKER_01:What was the deal with the rest of her face as well? The hairline, that that confessional look was just odd. Something is is wrong. And I don't know. So I know she got threads, but I I don't know that that's it. I also feel like, did she get a bad brow lift? Like I'm I was trying to compare confessionals last season to this season, and she just looks it could be mostly because of the incomplete makeup on the one eye.
SPEAKER_02:It was one confessional look because she looked normal the whole rest of the time. But in one confessional look, one eye was glam and the other eye wasn't. Like, what do you imagine is going on behind the scenes right now? I picture her texting Andy and being like, we need to reshoot all of this. Like, did you how come no one told her?
SPEAKER_01:I'm surprised she let it air.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she didn't know until she saw it, probably. But it's like, how come no one told her, like, hey, you didn't finish your glam? Like, that's insane.
SPEAKER_01:It's really bad.
SPEAKER_02:It was insane. I could not believe my eyes.
SPEAKER_01:But I I still think there was more to it. I I don't think she looks the same in all her other shots. I think something is off.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she has the threads.
SPEAKER_01:She's I know, but I don't then they're not good.
SPEAKER_02:But I think the problem was always down here. I think she needed a lower facelift, not threads.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't think the threads was enough.
SPEAKER_02:We are so off all the way. We need to cut this out because all we ever do is talk about people's plastic surgery. I'm not gonna be shallow.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know why? Because, first of all, they put themselves on TV, they talk about the plastic surgery they get. So if you're already getting plastic surgery and spending the money, spend it properly.
SPEAKER_02:And we are advocates, like we are not doing it. I would love to get a lowercase lift something. Like, we're not talking about her in a way of judging, it's like we're just like, you know, I just want her to do better. I want her to do better. I want to do that. We're really trying to, you know, yeah, and we're trying to learn rights and wrongs. Like, if we ever bought come into money and we can afford to get this work done. Yeah. What do's and don'ts? That's what we're we're absorbing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I think I mean, I don't want to jump right to the fight at the end. I want to start.
SPEAKER_02:No, let's start with the wild morning that they had after camping, where they ate steak by itself in paper bowls with plastic forks and not a seasoning in sight. Sounds like breakfast to me. That was the weirdest breakfast I had ever seen. It was steak and bacon, like these thin pieces of steak in paper bowls.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I've certainly heard of steak and eggs, but there were no eggs.
SPEAKER_02:Not an egg in sight, not a seasoning in sight.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And Bronwyn was draped in a blanket with a picture of herself on it.
SPEAKER_01:Which I did really appreciate.
SPEAKER_02:Which was giving Colt having a picture of himself on a pillow of his, which I saw it later that we'll get to. But from 90 Day, 90 Day Diaries is back.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:But anyway, I thought that was kind of wild.
SPEAKER_01:Uh Did you think that did you think that Bronwyn Bron Bronwyn's response to Heather's, I can't wait to have my kids gone, was I thought it was just her trying to relate.
SPEAKER_02:100%. And that's what she said later. And I mean, I can see how you could like say the say that, and someone could take it the wrong way, but absolutely she was trying to relate because she was saying, like, I'm the opposite, but it's like still a problem.
SPEAKER_01:And she said is just sensitive to Brahmin because she doesn't like her.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And she said something interesting. She said, I don't know who I am if I'm not Gwen's mom, which is probably something a lot of moms face. And this is like the type of thing that I think about is like today. I saw like the cutest baby at that the um coffee shop, and I was like, I want one of those. But then it's like, you know, when they're 18, it's like, who are you other than a mom?
SPEAKER_01:To keep your life outside of your kids full. Like Heather doesn't have that problem. That's true. She's the queen of beauty lab and laser bar.
SPEAKER_02:She is. And she's looking great. She's looking better than ever.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was epic is doing great for her. She looks fantastic.
SPEAKER_02:Um, Britt, uh, Brittany. Whitney was talking again about how they lost everything. How are they paying their mortgage?
SPEAKER_01:Well, she can't be a stay-at-home mom because of the business failure.
SPEAKER_02:So, yeah, what with with the business failure, they lost everything. So, like, how can you live in their house? I thought they both put all their money into this. And can Justin's job pay the mortgage by himself?
SPEAKER_01:Probably.
SPEAKER_02:Because that mortgage has to be a lot.
SPEAKER_01:I know. But she hasn't said, like, we're destitute now, or we're filing for bankruptcy.
SPEAKER_02:No, but there's like a lot of things we don't see, and it's like with the Lisa lawsuits of it all. It's like, like, I but I do believe that all these women, it's like a house of cards.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, no doubt.
SPEAKER_02:And their financial situations are much different than they give off.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think I think that's true.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe it stresses me out to think about like how much debt these people could be in.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think Angie Kay, though. I think her salon actually probably is doing well.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's a salon though. So we got a Robert Jr. update.
SPEAKER_01:Not a good one. I mean, I listen. You might say we're not supposed to speculate, but they put this on TV, so I'm going to. Um, I don't think that's just weed.
SPEAKER_02:Uh no, I think there are pills involved also. Absolutely. And it's he said something interesting that you don't think about. It's like when you get sober, you have to give up everything. It's like not just the withdrawals and the feeling, but like your friends. You know, all these friends that you had you don't have anymore. And he said, like coming back to this house in this room where I used to do drugs, and now I can't. Like, these are things that I never thought about before. Me neither. And she must have known right away when they started shooting the scene, or like, you know, even before that he was definitely not sober. I'm sure. I just thought, I just can't say enough about Mary these days, like how amazing and open she is.
SPEAKER_01:You know, do you think it's enabling for them to have him on camera when he's like actively still using?
SPEAKER_02:I never thought about that. I just thought it was like them sharing a real moment that probably a lot of people go through and like how terrified she must have been, but still staying calm to have a discussion with him.
SPEAKER_01:Not judging.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and she said in her confessional that she used to be a helicopter parent, and um that just caused him to not tell her things. Yeah. And so she's learning. Like, this is not the season one Mary in front of us.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02:Like in every way she's changed, and it's like, and I do kind of miss that wackiness, but it's still there a bit. So do you think she's enabling?
SPEAKER_01:I I feel both ways about it. I think both I I feel conflicted. I don't know if they know how serious this is because they're just like I don't know. I'm not yet a parent, so I can't say, but like to just let him keep living in their house without a job, knowing he's still using drugs. So should they kick him out? Is that what you're suggesting? And then letting it be on camera. Well, I don't know. I just think like maybe he needs to go back to rehab. Maybe there need to be regular drug tests involved. Maybe you need to get a job. Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I agree with you there. But she is doing her best, and like you say, like none of us can say what it would be like to have a child in that position. And I think you know, everyone just has to do their best, and I applaud her.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so now we can cut to the end in that epic fight.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't want to cut to the end yet because she at Lisa had lunch with Heather. Oh, yes, and Heather Heather decided to get her witch's brew cauldron out and stirred up.
SPEAKER_02:She was so dramatic. Like Bronwyn was just there to annihilate you, and she had done her research.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, Bronwood had done her research.
SPEAKER_02:That is accurate, but But this is something that any one of them would have and could have done, and Heather playing dumb, like, oh, I didn't know there were lawsuits against you. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Can you imagine your friend sitting across from you? And even though she's talking about a group of people lumping you into that group of people and saying, I'm so much better than you, I do so much more than you, my businesses are so much bigger than yours, I am more important than you. I would be like, bye.
SPEAKER_02:Everybody knows I do big things.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But show me one person who's bought Vita Tequila. One.
SPEAKER_02:Why does Heather associate and take always take the side of the villain? She always takes the side of the villain.
SPEAKER_01:I think she thinks Lisa is cool, and this is just like residual high school trauma of wanting to be friends with the cool girl.
SPEAKER_02:Same with Jen Shaw.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I agree with you a hundred.
SPEAKER_01:Regina George.
SPEAKER_02:100%. And so she'll like stand up for this woman who's obviously not a good person. And take the abuse, like she took the abuse of Jen Shaw.
SPEAKER_01:That lunch was crazy to me that Heather wasn't like, okay, rude. I have actually probably the more successful business than all of you.
SPEAKER_02:100% she does.
SPEAKER_01:That was crazy to me.
SPEAKER_02:But that set the scene for Lisa and Bronwyn. Bronwyn, who she went the distance for.
SPEAKER_01:I would have liked to see. First of all, I don't need that phrase going the distance. What is this? Hercules? Like, what does that even mean? Um, so that's number one.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, I think Hercules is on Broadway or on the West End. And I I really wish that it was on Broadway so we could see Hercules.
SPEAKER_01:That's a live action Disney can make that I'll watch.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, that's saying a lot because you hate every Disney live action.
SPEAKER_01:I really do, but I I think I I think I like a Hercules.
SPEAKER_02:Let the record show I like Jeladen.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02:Back when Will Smith was likable.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's ruined it.
SPEAKER_02:I thought he was amazing in that movie. His best work. Besides Men in Black 1, 2, and 3.
SPEAKER_01:Obviously. Um I would have liked a little more Angie and Lisa fighting. I don't think we got enough of that being resolved.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we have a whole season ahead of us, girl. This is episode two.
SPEAKER_01:I love Britney getting right in there and also helping to stir the pot a bit.
SPEAKER_02:I just loved the way Bronwyn told Lisa off.
SPEAKER_01:Like oh, she read her. And like the way Brum or Lisa's comebacks are just so laughable.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what is a gout dick sucker? I still don't know. Well, here's the other thing. I think she said it twice. At first, I was like, what is that? And then she said it again, in case we were wondering.
SPEAKER_01:I wonder how I wonder how long it took her to come up with that. Like, you know, she came to the party prepared with that insult.
SPEAKER_02:But like every every insult she had, Bronwyn had to come back, like, you should pay your lawsuits, girl. Like, you should be worried about paying your your own things. Like, if you're that important, it was so funny. I love to watch every minute.
SPEAKER_01:And Lisa's like defensiveness of the lawsuits is so juvenile. It's just like, you mean the ones that are not even relevant? It's like that's not answering to anything we're asking.
SPEAKER_02:I did see on Watch What Happens Live that Bronwyn got in some trouble with the lawsuit or something in the past. It's gonna come up in future episodes.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's exciting.
SPEAKER_02:So we'll see.
SPEAKER_01:Here's my biggest issue with Lisa saying, Oh, you just anytime you your your credit card bill comes, you just you know suck your husband's dick or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, and that's not that's not an insult. So what? She's married and Braun, that's what Braunwin said. Yeah, I do. I do suck my husband's dick. Like, if that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Like, what? Stick burn, Lisa. That's actually like a compliment because I bet a lot of wives, especially to men like that, would not want to suck those dicks, especially if they have gout. Yeah, no, no, you know what? She she earned it, she earned everything she has because Todd seems like a pill.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, he really seems like the worst, but her credit card card bills are probably really high.
SPEAKER_02:So, like, you know, you wouldn't do and like sucking your husband, like it's just not an insult to say that you suck your husband's dick. Like, I it's really not. It's really not, but you know what? That's why this show is so beautiful. And I do you have anything else about it before I give a final thought?
SPEAKER_01:I just I was watching this one. Um, my husband was actually seated and sat for the whole thing, and he likes Salt Lake. He will as it's ending, he goes, Salt Lake's the best one. And I was like, It is.
SPEAKER_02:I know, and you know what? In these two episodes of Salt Lake, we have gotten more than the entire season of Miami. Oh, and it makes me wonder like, was I like why did I start it?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I have some thoughts on Miami moving forward. Okay, um, so we get to the the finale, and there's two Oh wait, I have four words for you.
SPEAKER_02:I have four more words for you. Oh, I love my dog!
SPEAKER_01:I love my dog.
SPEAKER_02:I thought that was a joke.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, wasn't it? And Stephanie was like, the dog song caught me off guard. A little bit, a little odd to me for sure. Could it be like a Christmas song or something? Continue, continue. Um so we get the two conflicting parties, and I thought to my like one hosted by Marisol, one hosted by Alexia. Obviously, I'd much rather be at that pajama party. Look what I'm gonna do.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, if I were watching this back and saw that I like what I missed at that pajama party, I'd be so upset. Classy. I want some of those. I don't know how much they are. I meant to look it up.
SPEAKER_01:I can try to find them because like we'll be at our parents' house for Christmas this year, so we could get matches.
SPEAKER_02:But you know they're probably like designer.
SPEAKER_01:Just get me an extra, extra large in the top.
SPEAKER_02:You can just unbutton and have like the baby bump out. Oh, that's cool. Anyway, um there's a lot of events in this episode. There's like 17 events, which I did like.
SPEAKER_01:Why didn't they just cancel? Why didn't Alexia just cancel hers? Or vice versa.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I did wonder that, but Alexia had other people coming, like it was like a business thing that she'd probably already promoted.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what about Marisol?
SPEAKER_02:Well, she probably had all those vendors coming.
SPEAKER_01:I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Did you see Jill and Allie were there?
SPEAKER_01:No, I missed that.
SPEAKER_02:Jill's Aaron and Allie her daughter. Those two have a relationship that I don't know. When I when I see them together every second or every day, a little codependent. Yeah. And I mean, like, I know that you and I, some could say, some could argue.
SPEAKER_01:Therapists have said that to me.
SPEAKER_02:But we do live on opposite coasts. Now do we call each other like every day? Mostly. Yes. But so I guess we should just shut up and not not comment on.
SPEAKER_01:We're not mom and daughter, it's not the same.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay, there we go.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so those events were all fine. Really, it was just an excuse for like Kiki and Adriana to talk shit about each other, not exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Like, I think that I don't know if it was like orchestrated by production or not that they were supposed to be separated.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:But I think both events would have benefited from having all of the girls there. But we did get we did get Gertie freaking out, like trying to get all the free stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Can you move this along? I need to get more free stuff. I really respected it. And also somebody said, Why was Gertie behaving this way on social media? And she responded by saying, Because she was lit, honey. I loved that.
SPEAKER_02:Gertie is Gertie, you I do have thoughts on what the future of the franchise. Gertie has to stay.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, no doubt.
SPEAKER_02:All right.
SPEAKER_01:So we get to the well, then Julia has her painful singing opera.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know she was an opera singer.
SPEAKER_01:She's not. That's like a new thing. I think it was last season. She liked took some lessons to sing to Martina, and now we're here.
SPEAKER_02:Did we get a solo of her singing, like a clip or something? Was it good? What do you think? Well, I couldn't like with this other singer singing with her, I couldn't distinguish.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's not good.
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_02:What did Martina do?
SPEAKER_01:Sat there and said, Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:What would you do if someone was just singing opera to you badly?
SPEAKER_01:You know how I feel about people singing at other people. Like, I hate it. There's nothing I hate. I would leave like that guy in Spain who was singing that song to Alexia, and Alexia was crying, and all the other ladies were cracking up. There's like nothing cringier to me than somebody singing at me. I worked at a restaurant once and was a hostess, and this girl was also working her shift as a hostess and was just singing at me one day. And I was like, I'm gonna go clean the bathroom. Like, I'll do anything else.
SPEAKER_02:What song? Why was she singing at you? He thought she was a good singer. I don't know. What song was it?
SPEAKER_01:I can't remember. Why was she serenading you? Did she have a crush on you? No, she just like wanted people to hear her sing, and I'm like, I'm not the one.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so we go to the show ma event, which don't you think it was weird that Stephanie's husband wasn't there?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, but I also just another like important nugget is that Adriana was not at Julia's event.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Because she had to practice for her concert, her three-song concert.
SPEAKER_02:Which was her lifetime dream.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So we get to Julia was mad, even though for Adriana it was her lifetime dream.
SPEAKER_01:So we get to the Shoma event, and there's a concert, a three-song concert that started 10 minutes late, and Stephanie was losing her ever-loving mind.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't seem like a good singer at all to me. This is the first time I've heard her sing, and it sounded like really bad. Yeah, uh bass?
SPEAKER_01:She's a housewife. What did you what did you think?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Like some of them aren't bad. Uh Shemia's not bad.
SPEAKER_01:No, Shemia Candy.
SPEAKER_02:Drew.
SPEAKER_01:Well, anybody not in Atlanta isn't great. So you know. Um but really like the the meat and potatoes of the episode are Julia and Adriana fighting. We did get a like a brief Kiki apology to Adriana, which was nice. And the sweet moment of of Stephanie uh introducing the drink where all the proceeds will be going to Haitian. That was nice, very nice in Kiki's name.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh. That was great when her dad was there.
SPEAKER_01:But then we get this big fight with Adriana and Julia, and I just I think Adriana's kind of lost the plot a little bit. Like, I'm not by any means a Julia fan, but like it was hard to be on Adriana's side.
SPEAKER_02:Lil, you have you don't care about her craft.
SPEAKER_01:I don't.
SPEAKER_02:Like, and Julia doesn't care about her craft either, and that's the problem here.
SPEAKER_01:It was a fine fight to watch, but I just think like we get the how the age-old housewife's trope of of Adriana saying, I brought you to this group, I gave you everything, this is how you repay me. Like, yeah, get out of here with that.
SPEAKER_02:Um, also, like, and I hate to sound like Kiki, but I do think Adriana was too old to be saying that like this was my lifetime dream, like my craft. Like, you're 59 years old. Like, this singing is not your craft. If it was, you would have been this would have been happening like 30 years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I think moving forward, let's just get rid of Adriana and Julia. No, I'm done with them both.
SPEAKER_02:If anything, we need to get rid of, I think, Lisa and Larsa. They gave me nothing. At least Adriana, Adriana is fun, like funny, and she's so smart, and she's just got a lot of um, she's got multitudes.
SPEAKER_01:I just think I'm done with her.
SPEAKER_02:And I also like to see uh Julia and the boys and Martina acting like a bitch.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't need I'm I think I'm just I've had enough of that.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. So we're in complete disagreement.
SPEAKER_01:We are, but the biggest thing that happened that I hope we get to a lot of at the reunion is the bombshell that Marisol fed Adriana the word wretched.
SPEAKER_02:That's right. How could I forget about that?
SPEAKER_01:That was amazing.
SPEAKER_02:Do you think that this was like a misunderstanding? Like maybe Marisol was like, you meant to say this, right? And she's like, oh yeah, yeah. Like, no. I feel like that's like a she said she said.
SPEAKER_01:I think it happened exactly the way Marisol said it did.
SPEAKER_02:Why? Why do you believe her over Adriana?
SPEAKER_01:That's just how I feel.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's fun to believe. And then Marisol said, You have to be nice to me for two years. That's the craziest deal I have ever seen in my life. I thought you out of this. I'm gonna help you out of this social dilemma if you have to be nice to me for two years.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it felt like a fair trade.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, I thought it was really funny.
SPEAKER_01:Um any final thoughts on Miami?
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know that Julia was engaged nine times.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:To whom?
SPEAKER_01:Many men.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. But this whole time she needed a Martina.
SPEAKER_01:I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Um, also Lisa's split well app. Did you see? I paused it to look at it. It said like AI chat advocate, AI meeting advocate, AI document advocate, real recommended attorneys. I'm like, can't you just go to Chat GPT for all that then? Like if you're just gonna use AI? Yeah, you can. Like, how is this the profitable business?
SPEAKER_01:I I'm not getting divorced, so I can't say. I don't think I'll be doing it.
SPEAKER_02:So is this your only your only critique is you want to get rid of Julia and Adriana, no one else? Correct. You you think Larsa gave us enough this season and Lisa gave us enough this season to continue? You think they gave us more than Julia and Adriana?
SPEAKER_01:I think they've given me enough in the past.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so yeah, you're you're using the goodwill that they have built, which I don't have.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because I've never watched Oh, you have a kiddos with you now. Sweet girl. Sidebar, my dog peed on the couch last night.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, out of excitement?
SPEAKER_02:No, it was like a lot. It was after I went to bed and before my boyfriend came home, so he discovered it. Had you take it with our friend who's also stuck.
SPEAKER_01:Had you taken her to pee?
SPEAKER_02:Of course. I'm not neglectful. She peed a lot on our walk. A lot. You know how she like walks and dri gets little driplets like you know every couple steps? She had nothing left to give, and then somehow she had a full bladder by midnight.
SPEAKER_01:Might be time to start diapering her. Oh jeez.
SPEAKER_02:I diapered your dog.
SPEAKER_01:You should diaper that dog.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway. Okay, so should we move on to Orange County?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So they went to a safety class. Boring. Some of them got to do like moves, some of them got to use a gun. I would not want to learn how to use the gun. If I were in that group, I would ask to be moved. Even though they split them up intentionally to like talk shit about each other's trips.
SPEAKER_01:I was bored during this episode.
SPEAKER_02:What about that class? What about at the end? Like after their class, they went to like the back room of this building and were eating lunch and Gretchen's drinking fireball shots.
SPEAKER_01:That was pretty crazy. I guess like I'm sick of Tamra storming out of places. I just I need to.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but I had never seen Tamara's voice get like that, and I've watched a lot of Tamara screaming.
SPEAKER_01:How have you never seen this?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, because I've watched nine seasons of her so far, and this was the worst it's ever been. So that was kind of crazy. Also, I did some research into this rumor about her hooking up with a studio, hooking up with the guy from 90 degrees in a studio. And there were articles coming out about this in 2017.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:So either Gretchen has been holding on to this or she's just like was, you know, digging into the vault before the season. Like, what can I bring up?
SPEAKER_01:It could be either one. And honestly, I think it's more slave than it is Gretchen.
SPEAKER_02:Because Camera did back up true parts about it. Like on the show, on on orange on Watch What Happens Live, she said she was in the studio recording a jingle for no hate with this guy. And the article did say the same thing. Like there were pictures of them with their no hate, you know, uh tape over their mouth. And so I don't know. I mean, there gonna be some truth to it.
SPEAKER_01:I'd like to hear the song.
SPEAKER_02:Me too. Do you believe that Gretchen knows more about Tamara than she's not saying? No, I don't either. Because every time, because Tamara got so upset and she's like, What do you have on me? And Gretchen had nothing to say.
SPEAKER_01:Just because there's nothing.
SPEAKER_02:That's like just something you say.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, Tamara was on Watch What Happens Live. Her face looked like it hurt.
SPEAKER_01:Her face is looking bad. Like this episode, I was like, ooh.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um not good. She claimed Gretchen and uh Jen were both obsessed with her trying to sink a white female her, of course. Okay. Um, the craziest part of Watch What Happens Live was, you know, he asked this question like, Can you defend this? Like, or like, you know, and he one of the questions was to the audience, like, Do you believe Tamra's changed in therapy? And they all said, No. And Tamara said, Well, I can't change too much. I can't change my personality because then I'd be fired. And Andy said, You don't have to be mean to stay on the show. Like, what do you mean? That's a crazy thing to say. And Tamara said, No, it's not. And he said, Yes, it is. And she got out of her seat and lunged at him, and they cut to him and he's like pushing his hair back. Like, it was a tense moment. It was really tense.
SPEAKER_01:I need to go watch that.
SPEAKER_02:Go watch it. It was like kind of towards the beginning of the episode, and she was awkward the entire time. Like, I she if she was on pills or just drunk, I don't know. So she is alleging that she got fired because she like wasn't stirring up enough drama. Like, I can't change my personality because I'll get fired.
SPEAKER_01:I think she's probably right.
SPEAKER_02:But he he got so defensive. Like, that's a crazy thing to say. You don't have to be mean, blah blah blah, but it's like you kind of do. Yeah, you do, but you have to do it like in such a like a um you have to do it in a way that's like not too overt, like not too obvious. It's like I think it would be really hard to be a housewife, a good one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_02:And the thing about Salt Lake is they are all doing it exactly right. I know it's so because you you believe everything they say. Lisa Rena was that way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I miss Lisa Rina so much. She they she's like the only thing that could save that franchise.
SPEAKER_01:Will you read her new book?
SPEAKER_02:Probably I won't.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:But I'll read, like, you know, the summary, the bone shells.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, before we move on to Big Brother, I have one more final thought about Watch What Happens Live. Okay, so you know how they sometimes have people like on video asking them questions?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The talent. They always say, Hi, so-and-so, hi so-and-so, and then they pause for them to say it back, and it's on like Zoom or whatever, so there's always a delay, and then it just takes forever. That part needs to go. It's it's giving Jesse Palmer there's one rose remaining. And then after they ask the question that producers have given them to read, they always grab their drink and they're like, you know, they take they drink their drink and they look like so interested. I don't know why, but that is so cringe and sad for me to watch. They need to stop doing that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I don't need it, obviously.
SPEAKER_02:I don't, and I feel like bad. I don't know why, but they always these random ass people from you know, Wisconsin or Iowa, Iowa or whatever, like you know, they're together like cheersing with their wine and like like you know, on the edge of their seat, like their question was like a bombshell question, and I'm just I don't need to.
SPEAKER_01:You are trying to take away their 15 minutes or their five minutes.
SPEAKER_02:I don't need to see Middle America or any anyone that's a non-actor acting. Unless it's a housewife. That's fair. And even then, if you're acting too hard, you gotta go.
SPEAKER_01:That's fair.
SPEAKER_02:All right, now to a show where there's no acting at all. It could not be more real.
SPEAKER_01:Did you watch Big Brother or did you just read about it?
SPEAKER_02:So I'm I've quit officially. You have two, right? No, nope. Oh, you're still watching. Okay, so I quit because I I'm not invested in anyone and I can't bear to watch any of these people win. But I watched up until they got the letters from their family and you know, Vince's spiraling. I watched all of that.
SPEAKER_01:I loved that spiral.
SPEAKER_02:I loved that too. So then they had a conversation about percentages. A mathematical conversation that the editors put on full blast.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Of what's the percentage that we could be together outside of this thing.
SPEAKER_01:That's pretty much what the the gist was, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So the timing is important here. So you say that conversation happened before the letters from the family?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think so, but it's tricky because I don't have time to watch all the live feeds, so I don't know for certain.
SPEAKER_02:I have to believe this conversation happened after he saw that his girlfriend didn't leave him a message. I just otherwise, how would he be so emboldened? How would he how would he be so emboldened to have this conversation with Morgan?
SPEAKER_01:I saw TikToks from the live feed of that conversation before I saw TikToks on the live feed of him spiraling about the video from their family. But that could have but how like days prior.
SPEAKER_02:But how did they air it in the show? Is the question.
SPEAKER_01:Now I can't remember.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty sure the bad thing happened after.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just telling you the way I think it unfolded in real life.
SPEAKER_02:I think it unfolded the opposite. That he found out that he and Kelsey were done, and very quickly, you know, he pretended to be sad for like one second and questioned why would this happen? Why would she think this? And then I don't know, maybe like an hour later, he's asking Morgan, like, what is the chances of us having a shot on the outside?
SPEAKER_01:I'm sure I could potentially figure this out somehow.
SPEAKER_02:Either way, did you also see someone showed me a TikTok of him putting his arm around her and she pushed him away?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and also her asking, Are you really unemployed? I think she's getting the ick.
SPEAKER_02:I think so too. And well, actually, I didn't think so, but then one of my co-workers said that she thinks that Morgan has been playing Vince this whole time.
SPEAKER_01:It's very possible.
SPEAKER_02:Which she's if that's the case, she's fucking good because she was acting so jealous, girlfriend.
SPEAKER_01:I think at this point, like I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:She was acting so in love with him.
SPEAKER_01:I don't like her, but I think at this point she should win.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I feel the same way. Like, her winning is second worst case scenario, but this is where we are.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And he deserves to look like the baby back bitch that he is, and he should have gotten her out when Keanu told him to. Well, Morgan will win too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so Morgan wanting him at wanting Keanu out was the right thing, obviously, for her for her game. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But what was best for Vince's game?
SPEAKER_01:Nothing. Vince is not winning.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh, what if he does? What if it's him and Ashley in the final two?
SPEAKER_01:I will be shocked. There's no way because Morgan wins everything.
SPEAKER_02:I know, and that's another reason why she deserves to win. But Vince means a lot to you. Oh, I can't believe this is where we are. Some seasons are phenomenal, and then some seasons it are great. Like this one was phenomenal until it wasn't. Like sometimes it's like you put all this time in, and at the end it's like it feels for a second like, oh, I wasted it because the worst people won. But you know, I can't I can't negate the fact that like I was entertained all these days.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, we know that this is the risk we take when we show.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I can't waste any more hours on these people. Like, I can't waste one more second now that this is what we're down to. So, do you want to tell me quickly how um Ava got a limbed?
SPEAKER_01:Um, basically, Morgan won the HOH and the veto and left her nominations the same.
SPEAKER_02:And which were Ashley and Ava?
SPEAKER_01:Ava and Vinny chose to evict Ava.
SPEAKER_02:And I think that was the right choice.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it was. I mean, yeah, the only reason I would say that it was is because uh I think everybody in the jury really likes Ava.
SPEAKER_02:I think so too. I think she could make the argument that her strategy was to do nothing and and see what happened. And you know, like Ashley, I feel like did a little bit more. But not but not enough.
SPEAKER_01:A lot of a little, not a lot.
SPEAKER_02:No, I don't know. For some reason, I just feel like Ava, like, she's she's won things like everything she's won was out of luck.
SPEAKER_01:Totally.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I loved I loved Keanu's family. I believe you have a prompt.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was really funny.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh. I love them. I'm obsessed with them.
SPEAKER_00:That was really funny.
SPEAKER_02:Also, speaking of obsessed quickly, just another note, but everyone needs to watch at least Robert Irwin's Dancing with the Stars.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I'm obsessed with him.
SPEAKER_02:I watched his performance three times this week.
SPEAKER_01:Did you?
SPEAKER_02:I loved it. I loved every second. Okay, anyway. Did you have any other thoughts about Big Brother? I guess we both agree that Morgan has to win. Oh, and I have one word for you. Tubberware.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god, tubberware.
SPEAKER_02:These idiots think it's tubberware.
SPEAKER_01:They I wonder how long they actually spent on that conversation.
SPEAKER_02:Probably a lot longer than we spent. Dude, I will say that I didn't know Rasp Raspberry had a pee in it until I was like 22. I'm ashamed to say. But that's upsetting. So I feel like I shouldn't talk shit about these people, but probably not. I'm being vulnerable and open, okay? That's like not something I'm proud of, and I'm embarrassed to admit, but I'm being real with our followers, our listeners.
SPEAKER_01:As we both know, there's uh many things that I've said incorrectly over the years.
SPEAKER_02:Hurrahs.
SPEAKER_01:Hurrahs.
SPEAKER_02:What'd you say? The first one?
SPEAKER_01:All of the all of the sudden.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty sure Sabrina Carpenter has all of the sudden in her new song, one of her new songs.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it was all of the sudden for so long, and you, mom and dad, just ripped me to shreds for it.
SPEAKER_02:We've ripped you to shreds for saying uh pavilions instead of pavilions, the grocery store.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:This goes back all the way to when you were little and you said cellophone. Yep. And sabotage. I remember one time I don't know what it was about, but I was yelling at you and we were both crying, and I was like, You're trying to sabotage me, and you're through tears. I'm not trying to sabotage you. And this is why we need to read books. I just do my I do read books.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_02:So at least now you know sabotage. Oh, and the Vegas um Ortaho Hotel Hera's you thought was hurrahs.
SPEAKER_01:I did.
SPEAKER_02:That's the last one I got. So I guess neither of us have room to talk.
SPEAKER_01:Tuberware.
SPEAKER_02:Tubberware. BB. Is that it for Big Bro? I'm done.
SPEAKER_01:Finale's on Sunday, so I'll watch.
SPEAKER_02:Watch and film me in. It's been a good season up until this point. I've enjoyed it. I've loved the the relationship stuff. Oh, did you watch Amazing Race?
SPEAKER_01:I did.
SPEAKER_02:I love the dynamics. Like, I don't watch the show, but I'm watching it because it's big brother people. I can't believe like Taylor dated this guy and then Hannah dated this guy, but now Taylor's dating this guy, and you know what I mean? Like they're just hopping around like dating each other like crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I'm not sure why Taylor isn't there with like a family member.
SPEAKER_02:Why? She's there with her boyfriend.
SPEAKER_01:They weren't like fully together at the time.
SPEAKER_02:What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01:They were like trying to see if they could make a relationship happen.
SPEAKER_02:They were very like PDA.
SPEAKER_01:I know, but that's this is just what I saw on Kylan's Instagram.
SPEAKER_02:Oh interesting. So and it's weird that we also dated Hannah. Yeah, but then like she dated Joseph? Yeah. It's very weird that they're all here together.
SPEAKER_01:But then I'm like, everybody else here is with like a family member. Get get a family member.
SPEAKER_02:No, Tucker's there with his wife. Tucker? What's his name? Tucker's there with his brother. Who's a long-haired boy? Matt. No, that guy's name is not Matt. Yes, it is. The one with the bucket hat, the weird one.
SPEAKER_01:Matt and Megan.
SPEAKER_02:There is no way that guy's name is Matt. His name is Matt. The long hair. Yes. Travis, maybe? No, his name is Matt. The one who was like in his season was like straight Busin. Like that's what I learned about Bussin from him. There's no way that guy's name is Matt.
SPEAKER_01:It's Matt, dude.
SPEAKER_00:Are you looking it up?
SPEAKER_01:I'll take an apology whenever you're ready. I cannot believe that guy's name is Matt.
SPEAKER_02:I've never been more shocked about anything in my life. He does not look like a Matt. And he never did. Did he have a different name in the show? Like, did he go by a last name or something?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Like, did Matt seem right to you? Turner. I think he went by Turner. In Big Brother.
SPEAKER_01:Is his last name Turner?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Well, then that would make sense.
SPEAKER_02:So I don't think I was crazy.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah. I when I first saw him, I was like, Matt. I guess I by Bob was like.
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't look like a Matt, but I think he went by Turner.
SPEAKER_01:I thought maybe I'm just forgetful.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so we're both right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because that is not a Matt, as far as I know him.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm more right.
SPEAKER_02:No, I think it's equal, 50-50. Um, I love that Angela is there with her daughter. I hope they never get eliminated because they're everything to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're pretty great to watch.
SPEAKER_02:Any other thoughts? It's really cool how they think of these challenges. They're so um they just have to think of like they have to be really clever.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know why they're just in Europe.
SPEAKER_02:I don't either. That makes it feel like that makes it feel like it's like a I don't know, like a cheaper experience.
SPEAKER_01:Like a half-assed season.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I thought the same thing. Would you have eat that fish that they had to eat looked so disgusting.
SPEAKER_01:You just gotta it's for a million. That's the other thing. Like it's a it's a half-assed season, but still a million dollar prize.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, which you know what is more than big brother.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. So yeah, I mean, it looks gross, but I'll eat the fish.
SPEAKER_02:That flower challenge looked really hard.
SPEAKER_01:It looked really awful.
SPEAKER_02:The difference between the flowers that this girl couldn't figure out, I was like, I don't think in the dark with just a flashlight, I don't know how long it would take me to figure that out. And you have to find the other one too. And by the time you're running around, you forget what you're looking for.
SPEAKER_01:But some people got it so fast though.
SPEAKER_02:I know. I don't know how, like, I don't think I could have.
SPEAKER_01:I wonder if it's like a little bit just like luck.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe because it's like by the you you study that thing, and then by the time you're running around and like looking for it, it's like you remember yellow and black, you know? You don't remember that like there's bigger dots on the outside of the circle. Like that was wild. I'm glad they showed us that. Like, this is what they're really dealing with.
SPEAKER_01:That'd be so hard.
SPEAKER_02:Otherwise, I'm I'm kind of glad Enzo left. I'm sorry, but like he was at least entertaining to me. Yeah, he was doing so like uh and um are you happy that Izzy's back? I know you loved Izzy in Big Brother.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, Izzy.
SPEAKER_02:Why is she so mean to Jack? Oh my god, when they walked by her, she literally made like a vomit face. I don't know. Like, is she bitter over something that happened in the big brother house? Because that's just like sad.
SPEAKER_01:If she is, I missed it.
SPEAKER_02:But I mean, I'm she's still entertaining for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_02:Like everyone left is pretty entertaining.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely.
SPEAKER_02:Any other thoughts? Um, nope. I'm excited to see where it goes. Yeah, me too. Should we get to have Ev aft?
SPEAKER_01:Where's Tiger Lily and Adnot?
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. Great question. I kind of forgot that they existed.
SPEAKER_01:I also saw online today that they allegedly broke up.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. I mean, I have to say I'm not that invested in the relationship because I didn't really know them before this.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I did, and I hope they did break up, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so too. Because she was like changing her whole self for him.
SPEAKER_01:But that's my thing, is like, are they are they dumb for the season or what? Like, we haven't seen them in a while, I feel.
SPEAKER_02:I love how 90 Day universe isn't afraid to just like be done with somebody. Like, they're just manage them. Yeah, they just fly them off into the sunset, like Machmood.
SPEAKER_01:We'll never see them again.
SPEAKER_02:And then same with like the the blonde girl who um was with the the guy who was Australian, but also where was he from? I forget the one that called her Piggy, the guy that called that blonde piggy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Was he Korean? Korean, and they they were done, and then they were just done. We never saw them again. So you know it's the wild, wild west over on TLC. Georgie and Darcy, they had the most going on.
SPEAKER_01:Did you think that her wedding dress was like too revealing? I thought it just looked bad.
SPEAKER_02:I thought it was too revealing for for them. I loved that red veil and the flower crumb though.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that looked really good. I wish that Georgie had known what it was for, but I wish that yes, oh yeah, he had to look it up.
SPEAKER_02:He did. He had to look it up, the bad spirits. And then he's like, How come there's nothing to protect me? I thought that was cute.
SPEAKER_01:Georgie's funny, he makes me laugh. He can be at times. Um I just wish the dress, she puts her dress on, she's like couture. I'm like, oh, that's couture. And then our sister's outfit was like also kind of like a lot, a lot. I thought Stacy's outfit was like much better because it was conservative.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I liked it. It just was like very, it was very flashy compared to everyone else there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I wish that Georgie had told her. I guess he didn't know about the red veil because her outfit could have been so different with that flower crown and the veil, and it would have looked a lot better.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I loved how she got drunk and was in love with everybody.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What else did we get? Oh my god. She threw up.
SPEAKER_01:I love Georgie just holding her bangs while Stacy was holding her hair back. Stacy was mad.
SPEAKER_02:She's like, You're not holding her hair back, but he was, he was holding her bangs. Yeah, he was doing his part. That's the most important part.
SPEAKER_01:She was so drunk.
SPEAKER_02:Another funny joke was when she said she was scared of sharks, and Georgie said, I'm sure they wouldn't swim away when they heard your voice. And then um, I have to say that watching Georgie in that dance class with that turtleneck, having the time of his life hopping around with that little tissue thing. Yeah, that was a side of Georgie I had never seen. He was a completely different man.
SPEAKER_01:He was, it was nice.
SPEAKER_02:I just hopping around hop, hop, hop in my turtleneck. He just wants to dance.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. But so the party itself was like really nice. Like they this was clearly very planned.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but they looked, there looked like to be a lot of empty seats, no?
SPEAKER_01:And it looked to be like the vibes were miserable. Like all the ingredients were there, but everybody looked miserable.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like for the dancing part, like it was too bright, like they needed to kill some of those lights.
SPEAKER_01:But why was everybody so stone faced and like quiet? It was just the vibes were off to me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't know, because they were doing the dance and it was still just wasn't maybe that's just their personalities there. They're just more stoic. Maybe, but it was weird because Georgie was definitely coming alive in that dance class.
SPEAKER_01:You know, but what about all the guests?
SPEAKER_02:No, I know, I know. I'm just saying, like, they all did that dance and they were they they were still stone faced. You're right, and I didn't even think about that.
SPEAKER_01:So weird.
SPEAKER_02:It was weird, like Tarsi was the only one having fun, getting getting drunk and getting lit. Getting lit, getting lit just like snatched, getting snatched, crackle pop. She was getting lit like Gertie at that at Marisol's big Christmas party. Yep. We had Gino and Jasmine, um, the sonogram moment.
SPEAKER_01:I think we really just had Jasmine and Matt. Like, was Gino present at all?
SPEAKER_02:Maybe he was with his uncle who felt like calmed or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:That's uh that's uh scenes for the next episode.
SPEAKER_02:Oh I have to say I am empathized with Matt so much this episode.
SPEAKER_01:I know you did.
SPEAKER_02:Were you thinking of me the whole time?
SPEAKER_01:No, I was thinking he's a jerk. You're you're not the dad. Okay, so it's okay that I feel this way.
SPEAKER_02:So Matt was devastated that he's having a girl, not a boy, which is the same. I was devastated that you, my sister, are having a boy, not a girl.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So I I felt that like his whole his whole all of his plans washed away. Like before his eyes, he has to grieve the loss of all these plans. And also, he was so sure it was a boy. Like, I was so sure yours was a girl. I felt it in my bones. I've never been more sure of anything, so now I can't trust my gut ever again.
SPEAKER_01:Well, my my favorite moment from them is when he pulled out a bag of cold ribs at the beach, which some people would think is weird. I don't. I would totally eat cold ribs at the beach. You would have been Jasmine with your baby bump out and ribs all over your face. 1000%. But what was crazy to me is I think that that was all for show because if you've been a vegan for how long did she say, 12 years? Yeah, something like that, and then you suddenly scarf down ribs the way she was, she would be puking for days.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like I didn't even think about that.
SPEAKER_01:There's no universe where that's the first time she's broken her veganism.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she probably has to break it for the baby, right?
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to do anything, you just need protein.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's easier if you're getting back on meat. It's easier if you do, it's easier for sure.
SPEAKER_01:But like I just was like, there's no way this is her first time eating meat because she would be super unwell.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she did a good job acting and she looked it looked disgusting.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I thought they looked pretty good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but all over her face, and then she was just like sitting there with the ribs all over her face for the whole rest of the time.
SPEAKER_01:You know what? That's on Matt for not being like, let me get you a napkin, you got some barbecue sauce. Like last night, so last night, we went to Trader Joe's, and I got you know how Trader Joe's has those little sheet cakes. I know they're so good. I got a yellow cake with the chocolate frosting.
SPEAKER_02:Um, that doesn't sound good.
SPEAKER_01:It was really good.
SPEAKER_02:It's like the perfect amount of cake, too. I love them.
SPEAKER_01:No, they're so good. I had to fight from eating the whole thing in one sitting, truthfully. And I had a few bites today before I had my Trader Joe's mac and cheese full fat for lunch. So we're really on a roll here. But anyway, I put the cake away, we continue watching whatever show we're watching, and then I go up to bed and I notice I have all kinds of chocolate frosting on my face. And I know that my husband has looked at me, and so I'm like, what was what was the why weren't you gonna tell me that I just had chocolate frosting all over my face? I think. What did he say? He said, I didn't notice. I'm like, really, really? You stared at my face and didn't notice the pink.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know he can be like oblivious at times. Like, I believe him.
SPEAKER_01:Well, do you think Matt was oblivious to the barbecue sauce on Jasmine's face?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_01:Why didn't you just let it live?
SPEAKER_02:Because it was like part of the shtick, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:I do think that's also I also was surprised because she's old, no offense. She's in her 40s, and they're just now finding out the gender that also feels like a lie because you you get an NIPT test to test for all kinds of uh syndromes and stuff, as well as the gender on about 10 weeks pregnancy. Maybe she didn't get that, but you especially get it if you have a geriatric pregnancy, which she does. It's like kind of not optional. Is yours a geriatric pregnancy? No, I'm not 35, but thank you for pushing that on me. Because when you're over that, it's I think it immediately qualifies as a high-risk pregnancy. So, like, you get that test. And to wait to see the gender on an ultrasound, you have to be like 18, 19, definitely 20 weeks. Yeah. I'm like, there's no way she didn't get that test. There's no way they didn't already know. I just was like, this whole, this entire everything that they filmed was bullshit.
SPEAKER_02:But Matt seemed like he was really finding out for the first time.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe she just didn't tell him. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I I took that whole thing as someone who's not knowledgeable about pregnancy at all. I loved it. Like she was crying. I almost got a little teary. I just because the miracle of life is so crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Is it?
SPEAKER_02:Isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I was just like really having a moment watching that ultrasound.
SPEAKER_01:That's nice.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Anyway, we got the Florida dummies, but I don't really remember what happened with them.
SPEAKER_01:Or it just was Yara. Yara looked like a skiing Barbie in that's right. I thought she looked great in that outfit.
SPEAKER_02:She looks great in every outfit. She is a Barbie.
SPEAKER_01:So she FaceTimes Elizabeth and is like, come on, that's right. Yeah, that's really all we got for her.
SPEAKER_02:This producer manufactured ski trip that we're gonna have to watch next week. So on 90 Day Diaries, they showed Yara and Jovi's Florida apartment. It has beautiful views of the ocean. Beautiful, but it is small. It's like one of those that's just like kitchen, living room, and it's like narrow. Like you walk in and there's just kitchen, living room. Kind of like our old apartment, but smaller, like no dining room area. And I was like, how can they like live this way with a baby? And they're like really high up.
SPEAKER_01:I bet she loves it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sure she does, and the view is insane. And she set it all up while Jovi was um at work. So that's pretty much all their takeaway was from the 90-day diaries was the incredible view.
SPEAKER_01:And then we had Brandon and Julia stopping by the front. They're really giving her parents like a great trip because they went to DC, Miami, and now they're gonna go to New York for a few days.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, but he's not going.
SPEAKER_01:Well, he meant to go.
SPEAKER_02:Um, can I just say that Julia uh Ron and Betty making Julia's poor parents walk through that mud to say goodbye to them?
SPEAKER_01:They're like, They're terrible for so many reasons, dude.
SPEAKER_02:These nice ass people have to get their shoes so fucking muddy for no reason. Like they couldn't have said goodbye to them, like on the porch.
SPEAKER_01:They're terrible for so many reasons. That's like that's like the bare minimum of their terror, their terror.
SPEAKER_02:And Brandon, like being caught in the middle of their whole debate, like he just he's he's Vince, he's a baby back bitch.
SPEAKER_01:He is.
SPEAKER_02:And everyone's worried about them like being able to afford to travel.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02:It's like if you can't afford to travel, you can't afford a baby.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I didn't realize that she had that Russian apartment.
SPEAKER_02:No, I didn't either, but how much is she gonna get from that? I have no idea. About Russian real estate.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, she it's paid off, allegedly.
SPEAKER_02:But how much is that gonna give her? That we don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Do you think that one trip is gonna like be enough to make her be like, okay, I'll have a baby?
SPEAKER_01:Obviously, because she's pregnant. Oh fuck, I forgot.
SPEAKER_02:We already know. We already know. I wish I didn't know. This is why social media is bad. Like you can never find anything out in real time.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_02:Well, are we gonna get to see their grand European trip? Who can say? Do you have any other thoughts?
SPEAKER_01:Are there any other couples?
SPEAKER_02:Not that I have observation of. We didn't get Karen Giermo. What about 90 Day the other way?
SPEAKER_01:Are you still keeping up?
SPEAKER_02:So I've I realized that it's an hour, which is very exciting to me.
SPEAKER_01:It's really digestible, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And now that big brother's over, but I am also doing amazing race this year, so it is still a lot. But I already read my books for the year, so I'm good. I've done your part. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The other way is I, you know, I'm enjoying it.
SPEAKER_02:Um Jenny and Summit are a gift that keeps on giving.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I that's like one repeat couple that I will never say get rid of them.
SPEAKER_02:Like, I'm always happy to have because they are always up to something wild.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, definitely. Like they're it's fine with me that they're present.
SPEAKER_02:Um, like they went to that guy's house, their friend's house, hoping to get free shit for their restaurant. And she just walks in, like, this place is filthy. It looks like a bomb went off. It's like, wait until you're in private to say these things.
SPEAKER_01:Also, she's disgusting on her own.
SPEAKER_02:So I know, and she's just so fucking lazy.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_02:And her um, his friend was like, These people don't have a clue what they're getting into, and like that's very obvious.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah, we all could see that from a mile away.
SPEAKER_02:But it's like fun to it's like I feel like this makes me a bad person that it's just so fun to watch them flounder because they're just such an it with. It's like, why do they think they can open a restaurant? Like, I don't feel smart enough to open a restaurant, and these people are doorknobs.
SPEAKER_01:There was a time where I did think that you and I could open a bed and breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:I never thought that.
SPEAKER_01:I said I shared it with my husband. I was watching a lot of Gilmore Girls.
SPEAKER_02:You know I'm not about that life. Like, what about that? It seems like something I would enjoy.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_02:Like the cleaning? No, the cooking? No. The having to interact with people all the time and do small talk, hell to the no.
SPEAKER_01:Hell to the no, she says.
SPEAKER_02:And you wouldn't like that part either.
SPEAKER_01:Probably not.
SPEAKER_02:What else? Who else did we have have on the other way?
SPEAKER_01:I really like I can't even think of his name, but the guy who's with Madel Madeline Madeline.
SPEAKER_02:The French couple.
SPEAKER_01:No, not the French couple. I have a thought about her.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you like that guy? The guy that lives in like Fraser Park or whatever, the the like like the mountains of near LA?
SPEAKER_01:I don't like him. I like his dad.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, his English dad that gave him$3,000.
SPEAKER_01:I like him. His dad seems like so sweet.
SPEAKER_02:And then he's like, he gave me$3,000. It's not a lot, but every little bit counts.
SPEAKER_01:How ungrateful are you?
SPEAKER_02:I was like, how much debt are you in that$3,000 isn't a lot?
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_02:That's actually like if that's not gonna put a chip, a big chip in it, like, oof. I guess we know he's in a lot of debt because he like had buys properties and stuff. Like, and then he said, like, I sincerely hope all your dreams come true.
SPEAKER_01:No, he just seems really nice. He does. Um, but the French couple, it's just whenever that girl cries, I'm like, my ears hurt.
SPEAKER_02:She is the loudest crier I have ever heard.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And she just she can break into it so instantly. Like, there's no one between like, hey, welcome back. Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And everyone was staring at her.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It escalates so quickly. Their kid is cute. Sure. I hope your kid is that cute. Oh my god, we should tell the listeners, which you know is mom, and we already told her, but I came to this crazy um realization that you and your husband's like jeans mixed together are gonna look just like the little boy from the Santa Claus. I will die. I'm not kidding. Like, I can barely watch the Santa Claus. I love that movie, but it is a tough watch because he's so fucking cute when he says, like, plain milk's fine. Like, oh, it rips my heart out. Like, I cannot imagine having like a nephew that looks like that.
SPEAKER_01:Who can say?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I am saying.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not doing one of those AI generators, though. No, till he pops out.
SPEAKER_02:I would see. I've never been more sure of anything, but I said that before.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, you have.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, okay, so back to the French couple.
SPEAKER_01:That's really all I had for them.
SPEAKER_02:Her parents were sweet, though. They said, like, we support whatever she wants to do. Yeah, they seemed very nice. The only other observation I had with them was like when they were in the car, and Minon, is that her name?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Was in the front seat with her dad, and then her mom was in the middle of the back between the baby on one side and her son-in-law on the other side. Like, why was her mom having to squeeze in the bitch seat?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe she wanted to sit by her grandkid. Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_02:This is why, you know, you know, you you have all these great points that I don't think of. I know. The only other couple we had really was that British boy when the girl at the cat.
SPEAKER_01:I cannot imagine moving away and giving up my cat.
SPEAKER_02:I can't either. Like by choice, like no man would be worth that.
SPEAKER_01:I'd be like, you need to, it's not gonna be till you find an apartment where I can bring this cat.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, 100%. Like that's a non-negoche. And she even admitted she liked the cat more than the guy.
SPEAKER_01:Then I'm so that's why I'm so surprised it wasn't a non-negoche for her.
SPEAKER_02:You uh yeah, you obviously don't because you left the cat behind. I would be that was crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Do you want a little update on Colti and Courtney? Yeah, duh. Okay, so 90 Day Diaries has resumed. So he moved in with Courtney and her parents. Did you know that already? I did. She knows it's moving fast, but she's getting older and she needs to be serious if she wants to settle down and have kids.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So basically, it's just like, you know, whatever. It's just like she's it could be anyone. But she really seems to be embracing it. Like she's like, I'll I'll be the nurse, and you could be the patient for Halloween, babe. Like, she just like has such a good spirit about her, and she's like, I love living with my parents. They cook, they clean, and they're fun, and I probably need adult supervision anyway.
SPEAKER_01:I loved living with our parents.
SPEAKER_02:But Colts is worried that like starting a relationship on this note of like him recovering and living with the parents is like gonna be too hard for a new relationship. Um finally, her dad helped him like get like a shower seat. Okay, and so she was happy that she didn't have to give him sponge baths anymore because she was having to clean and she was like lifting up her boob to show like she has to clean under his boob, and she's like, I have to clean under and in between all the things, and that was like a visual that I didn't need.
SPEAKER_01:Why can't he give himself a sponge bath in that capacity? His arms work, dude.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Why why anything with Colti? Why anything? So that's all we got from them. I'm trying to remember if there were any other couples. We saw Annie and Robert have another baby, which was sweet because they lost a baby before.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, that was sad.
SPEAKER_02:Which is really sad. Their little baby, so yeah, she and she just was really excited. They had to get into like an emergency C section because the baby was like sitting upright. Ooh, the baby would not turn. That's a fear, but all was well, except Bryson is so old now. I did not even recognize him. Time does pass, and he cut off his ponytail.
SPEAKER_01:Thank god.
SPEAKER_02:It was cute, he was like matching his daddy.
SPEAKER_01:All the ponytails need to go.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, that's it. We're gonna get um looks like it's gonna be a good 90-day diary season.
SPEAKER_01:That's great. I'm really glad that you're watching, so I don't have to.
SPEAKER_02:It's really good. Like the all the crap you watch, I think that you can have to. This one's only an hour, also.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know, we'll see. I've also got Survivor is back now.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. How is that so far? Good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're only one episode in, but I like it. And Bake Goth is back now, so you know, I've got a full plate.
SPEAKER_02:Big goth?
SPEAKER_01:Bigoth.
SPEAKER_02:I will be watching Survivor again when Mike White is on it. Their ratings are gonna skyrocket.
SPEAKER_01:I know. Well, it'll also be their 50th season, so oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So what are you gonna do this weekend? It's Saturday morning. We've been riding all morning, obviously.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna finish a puzzle I'm working on. Um I'm probably gonna start picking out and ordering some stationery and stuff for the baby shower. Super fun. Nobody cares.
SPEAKER_02:I can order that.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I just I like to be in control.
SPEAKER_02:That's true, you know.
SPEAKER_01:What are you guys gonna do?
SPEAKER_02:I think we might go to Redondo Beach, even though it's like overcast, it's like a good fun bar vibes over there. And tomorrow we'll this is gonna be the boys watching football.
SPEAKER_01:At Thirsty Marchant, our favorite neighborhood bar?
SPEAKER_02:Hundo P.
SPEAKER_01:Without a doubt.
SPEAKER_02:The problem is it gets kind of crowded now because it's a chief's bar, but anyway, there was one more thing that I wanted to mention. Oh, the next time I see you or the next time we uh do a pod, we'll be rehearsed again. And Taylor's album will have come out. I know I cannot believe one week from today we will be like talking about Taylor's album and we'll be together, and I could feel your baby kick.
SPEAKER_01:I know, so crazy.
SPEAKER_02:So there's a lot to look forward to. The logistics of planning of packing two computers because I'm gonna work from there is kind of freaking me out because like you have to take them out for like the security screening, and it's just like a lot. Like, do I keep them both in my backpack or my carry-on? Just pack one. I need two computers for work a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_01:I have a personal one here you can use if you'd like.
SPEAKER_02:You don't use it for work?
SPEAKER_01:No, I have a work computer.
SPEAKER_02:You don't need two screens?
SPEAKER_01:I have a monitor you can plug into.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well, if I could use your work computer or your personal computer just like looking things up on Google and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Because I have so many other windows open on my work computer, then great. Okay, I'll just bring my work computer. Whew, that's one problem solved. One less thing to worry about. One less thing to worry about. Oh, we're gonna see Mama Mia. Yes, we're gonna do fall things, we're gonna go to Central Park in the fall. We're gonna go to Sleepy Hollow. It's gonna be amazing. Are we doing that? I thought that that was like just like a thing that I threw out.
SPEAKER_01:So we're going.
SPEAKER_02:You did you figure it out with your husband?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:We can talk about this off mic. Logistics.
SPEAKER_01:It's gonna be a fun fall festive week, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02:I am so excited.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Well, thanks for running with us, everyone.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks for running. Okay, bye.
