Rather Be Rotting
Rather Be Rotting is the ultimate escape for pop culture obsessives and reality TV junkies. Hosted by two sisters who’d always rather be rotting on the couch, this show is a love letter to Bravo marathons, niche celebrity drama, and the kind of useless-but-essential pop culture knowledge that clogs their brains (and now, your ears). Whether they’re deep-diving into reality TV chaos or spiraling over a red carpet moment, these two are here to talk about everything that doesn't matter—but means everything to them.
Rather Be Rotting
22 - We're Back! RHOP, RHOC, RHOSLC, 90 Day HEA, 90 Day TOW, and Love is Blind
The gals are finally back after Lil's travels to get into all the great TV currently available for our viewing pleasure. They catch up on the finale of Love is Blind, all the madness of 90 Day Happily Ever After and 90 Day The Other Way, as well as the latest with The Real Housewives of Orange County and The Real Housewives of Potomac (how can Dr. Wendy be so...dumb?). And of course, the crown jewel of it all, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, where a hard T in the word fart makes Lil come unraveled. All this plus Halloween plans, fantasy football, and weird mother/son relationships!
Welcome to rather be running. We're two sisters who should really be doing something more productive than excites all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos. Because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.
SPEAKER_01:We haven't done one of these in so long. I know. We haven't taken to the mic in ages. I literally forgot how to record. You lost your microphone.
SPEAKER_02:I did. It was, you know where it was? It was like on the floor of my closet because that's where I was last time we did this. It's been weeks. You have been around the world and back. What else is new? Pick and peak. Pit and peak of your trip to Sweden and Denmark.
SPEAKER_01:Peak was definitely a pastry class that we took. That was amazing. Um, I can now make a true puff pastry, which is really exciting for me personally. And the pit was getting a ticket on the metro in Copenhagen.
SPEAKER_02:You cried?
SPEAKER_01:I did cry. Yeah, I'm not used to getting in trouble, you know.
SPEAKER_02:You cried over a ticket that you literally would never have to pay or even think about again. And yet you cried and you paid it immediately. Which is, you know, that is a thing. That's a choice. That's just who I am as a person. Who I am would be like, thank you, sir, and then just like throw it in the garbage can.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I I don't need the Danish government showing up at my door.
SPEAKER_02:They're not gonna extradite you for a ticket, a train getting a ticket, a fine.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, but what if I want to go back to the EU again?
SPEAKER_02:Is it the whole EU that's gonna be mad at you?
SPEAKER_01:Nobody's gonna be mad at me now because I paid the ticket. Goody goody two shoes. So we'll never know. What's going on with you in all these weeks?
SPEAKER_02:I'm sacrificing watching the first Dodger Game of the World series to talk to you.
SPEAKER_01:So and and all our listeners. I love when you say all our listeners, it's so funny. We do it for them, and I know that they've missed us and they've probably been wondering where we are. Have any of them reached out? No, exactly. You know, to be honest, though, we don't really have a way for them to reach out. Really? Because every time we upload an episode, it says send me a text. What does it mean? I don't know, and I don't know how to turn it off.
SPEAKER_02:We'll never know.
SPEAKER_01:We'll never know.
SPEAKER_02:There'd be no way of knowing what that means. The Dodgers just gotta run.
SPEAKER_01:Congrats. Are you gonna be distracted by this throughout the whole podcast? No. Well, you we weren't even gonna take to the mic today originally.
SPEAKER_02:No, because my parents were gonna come, our parents were gonna come to my house to watch the Mariners Dodgers World Series, and several things happened. A, the Mariners did not make it to the World Series RIP, and B, their flight got canceled today because Alaska IT outages and they can't get their shit together.
SPEAKER_01:So there now seems to be a pattern of people trying to get to your house and being unable to do so.
SPEAKER_02:This is like this. So that didn't happen, but you know, it's okay. We're gonna, you know, we're we we don't have any visitors, we're gonna still watch the Dodger games, you know, just enjoy our weekend. Where do we even begin? It's been there's been so much. There's been so much. I think we'll start. I think we have to start with Salt Lake. Okay, because it continues to be the most iconic franchise in the history of Housewives.
SPEAKER_01:I have a few thoughts about poor sweet Bronwyn. Her mother's a monster, and her husband is a monster.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh, he made her cry while they were eating ice cream. He literally That's not an easy feat.
SPEAKER_01:No, five seconds after saying I hate when people steal my cherry, he stole her cherry. That's he's a monster, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, that's just the definition of a monster.
SPEAKER_01:Did you see she had an ice cream purse? Of course I did.
SPEAKER_02:How much you how much do you think that set her back?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, ten grand?
SPEAKER_02:That was my guess tens of thousands.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But and it's she was telling him something very serious at the ice cream shop. Like she was telling him that a the psychic who that psychic was like legit at times. At times, he saw something going on with her mom, who is a bitch, but also, you know, he basically told her, you know, you don't have much time left with your mom, which is like a terrifying thing to hear. And he was just making fun of her. And she's like, I'm not saying that he gave me winning lotto numbers, I'm just saying, like, this is something that that made me feel a certain way, and I'm sharing it with you, and he can't even validate her. He's terrible. He did apologize, but did he apologize because he's on camera? Probably. So I do agree with you, and I love her confessional look, the bejeweled one. That's everything to me. It's giving Taylor, it's giving, you know, like our little childhoods, like playing with gems, uncut gems.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm getting really frustrated with Lisa.
SPEAKER_02:I'm getting frustrated with everyone in Lisa's orbit who's not telling her that it's not frustrated, it's frustrated. How many, how many times is she gonna say it before, you know? I mean, at this point, I feel like the producers have a duty to step in during the confessionals. Somebody does, but nobody's doing it. I mean, even she was saying this stuff last year, and no one sent her a little tweet, a little DM, hey, you know, there's an R in frustrated.
SPEAKER_01:That aside, I just think the defensiveness is too much. It's not fun, it's it's obviously fun to watch. Incredibly fun. I'm having time, but it's becoming less fun to watch her not, she's not playing ball here. I feel what do you mean? She's saying the funniest things. She gave us gout dick sucker. I know she's saying funny things, but like anytime anybody says anything to her, it doesn't penetrate the noggin.
SPEAKER_02:At least she's funny about it, and it's it's in I think it's way more enjoyable than someone similar, Alexia in Miami is the same way. Lisa's way worse.
SPEAKER_01:And I think this funny it makes it better. Well, this season it's like really bad, and I like what is she hiding? Why is she standing at the counter of that store with several hundred dollar bills? Like, what are you talking about? When she was at that store with Heather and she was paying for her clothes, she had a stack of hundreds in her hand. Oh, that is weird. I didn't notice that at all.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what what are we hiding here? That's a great question. I do think there's also something going on with her and her husband, which the psychic upon, which is crazy that she like it's crazy that all these women did these readings on camera, not knowing what was gonna be said. And obviously, like you can make fun of the psychic because he said that he was sensing that Britney had problems with her kids, which is something she said on the show 17 times, but yeah, he like got that out of Lisa and she confirmed it. Like, that was kind of crazy that no one knew, you know. He so we did get a little bit into the Lisa and John problems, and it's they talk about it so vaguely though. It's kind of like Kyle and Maurizio. Like, I I can't glean what's actually going on because they're using such like veiled terms.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm taking from it that Lisa doesn't give a shit what he has to say ever.
SPEAKER_02:I'm taking it the opposite. Oh, maybe neither of them does. And she was saying that she works so much and she does so much and she's exhausted, blah blah blah. That was the most real she's been to me in a while. I also think she looks terrible. I know you do, and I'm sorry that you feel that way. We did we did get some clarity on the soup man. Suit man. The soup man who is now the soup man, and Heather was like from a soup kitchen. She's like, I've been wrapping my brain trying to figure out when you would have brought her soup or when she would have been bringing someone soup.
SPEAKER_01:And lo and behold, wasn't even a real thing.
SPEAKER_02:No, I like I wish it was soup man, not suit man. What else did we get? We got um Britney's daughter. I thought or daughter, I thought that was very interesting. She another monster in our midst. Brittany.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, not her daughter, no her sweet daughter. I feel bad for that girl.
SPEAKER_02:Me too. This is what teenagers do. Brittany is a 40-something-year-old women, woman acting this way. Like, that's atrocious.
SPEAKER_01:I think what's more atroche and like devastating is when her daughter was like, she was a good, she was a great mom for a time. Like, can you imagine how devastating that would be?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's nothing that compares to that. The tragedy of your of your mother going off the deep end for a man.
SPEAKER_01:Horrific.
SPEAKER_02:Some of these women are just like terrible moms.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, look at Julia. We'll get to Miami shortly. Anyway, so Angie, I still love, but I think Angie's a little better at recognizing that she is doing the tit for tat of it all. Definitely, which is what I want from Lisa.
SPEAKER_02:But then what how where do we go from there? If they recognize it, if they're too self-aware, then we don't want them anymore. I still will. We have to talk about the best part of the episode. Which was. Are you serious? Yeah. About how Angie made fun of Mary's fart. Oh I made your fart! I was that hard T really did the all the work in that scene. A hard T doesn't sound any better than on the word fart. It doesn't get better. She's genuinely confused. Like, I made fun of your fart. What? Lil is bright red crying. She can't even, she forgot this episode. And Mary said, I wouldn't make fun of you when you fart. You don't even know. Maybe I smelled it when you did fart and I didn't tell you. And then you blame the dog's fart on me.
SPEAKER_01:The hard tea of it all. I've lost it.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if we can recover from the from Angie's hard tea and fart. While she's like getting herself together, let's recap that Angie and Mary are on rocky waters. They're best friends, but they're they're you know fighting a little bit. So, you know, they come together at Angie's house to talk things out. She, you know, has some snacks handy, and you know, they're holding hands and they're trying to make it right, but then but then Mary has to bring up something that happened in the past, which was that Angie made fun of her fart. And you know what? She kind of did. So then we get a flashback scene to something we'd never seen before. Mary telling the telling Angie, oh, I've been farting all day. I've been really farting. And so Angie, you know, picks it up and runs with it, as one does. Like, oh, everyone stay away from Mary. She's gassy. I don't want to sit by her. And then cut to a week later, Mary's upset that she was made fun of for her flotulence. And I mean, that's just a normal thing that people do. Okay, I think I'm okay now. Okay, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know how I feel about farts, they're just so funny. But I think in- You have so many. I just think like in this case, I am actually on Mary's side a little bit because if you're like comfortable enough with a person, your friend, especially, to say, like, sorry, I farted. And then they just like keep bringing it up. It's like you're kind of betraying the sacred trust I've given in you to tell you when I've passed gas.
SPEAKER_02:Sacred trust. Yeah. She said it on camera. To everyone that was there. She said it's Gronlin was there, Angie was there. It's she says, I've been farting all day on camera.
SPEAKER_01:But like, I just I don't like when you cop to something that you've done that's like maybe embarrassing, and then people just like harp like one time the joke's funny, but to like keep harping on it, it's like, all right.
SPEAKER_02:Like I do agree it was too much of a good thing. Don't overdo it. Yeah, I do agree that Angie did overdo it, but she was truly blindsided when Mary brought this back up. And then Mary tried to blame her fart on the dog. Like the dog.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe her dog was gassy. I don't know. I don't know why we never saw that in real time.
SPEAKER_02:I know. Well, you know what? That's like the thing is they shoot so much. Unlike 90 Day Fiance, where you see five episodes about one hour, they shoot so much they like have to go back and and toss it in later. I will say, with the Mary going on about the fart, was like the most old Mary that we've seen in a long time.
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SPEAKER_02:The old kooky Mary was like back for one second. It was kind of nice to have her back. Yeah, definitely. But I'm glad they worked it out. Of course, yes. She apologized for the the fart of it all, and we move on. And hopefully, you know, next week they're on a yacht, so if someone breaks wind, like you could just do it in the direction of the the the way the yacht is sailing. Thank G. We also got a little bit about Bronwyn's criminal past, but we didn't, but we didn't really.
SPEAKER_01:I don't really remember that coming out when it did.
SPEAKER_02:Me neither. But apparently she was like char she was charged with grand theft. She was facing grand theft, identity theft, fraud charges, and the case was dismissed and sealed, so she can't talk about it. I couldn't find anything online in the two minutes that I spent looking, so maybe that's because it's been dismissed and sealed. So this case is actually dismissed, which Lisa needs to know is different from you know being denied denying it. 100%, 100%. There was one more little tidbit that I wanted to share is that I watched Wife Swap with Angie casting. Oh, I haven't watched it yet. It was good. I liked it. I because I like Angie so much. I just love Angie. And I don't know if it's a good show, I don't know if it's a good concept, but I would watch Angie do just about anything. She and you know what the thing is, like she's so genuine. Like when you watch her with this family in the middle of nowhere with no electricity, like she's still like positive and she's upbeat, and I just love to see it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I couldn't love her more.
SPEAKER_02:I couldn't love her more. She's great, and then we have Heather is really um capitalizing on her fame, her 15 minutes of fame. She is getting a new three-part series called Surviving Mormonism. I did. Was that gonna be on Hulu? You know, I I I couldn't I couldn't say that that part didn't I didn't retain that part. I'm sorry. That's okay. But it looks, you know, she's being she's being like a serious journalist, like, and she's interviewing them. Good for her. Were you silent or silenced? Great cue. Hopefully she asks. Um yeah, she's hopefully she pulls that out. Yeah, other than that, I didn't have much more with Salt Lake other than just you know, we had the week before we had like franchise French fries, we had a great blow-up at the table. It's the best. We had Whitney talking about her failure. Yes, I failed. Okay, I'm open about my failure, and I'll do anything to rebuild her business failure, and she's taking back to the poll, so good for her. Yeah, she decided she's not a businesswoman, she's much better off as like a part-time hobby stripper, stripping for free, stripping for all being her free, fun, footloose, and fancy free self to be able to just say, you know, I'm not cut out for business, I'm not cut out for work, I'm just you know, I'm cut out for the poll.
SPEAKER_01:So do you want to touch on Miami? I don't remember much. I don't know. I guess so. We're done with Miami, and I my takeaway from this season is like they probably did hook up and I'm done with Julia.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like Adriana basically admitted it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm just I'm done with Julia. I don't need her anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I want I I love Julia. I think she's great. Larsa and Lisa are the ones that need to go. I'm sorry, they brought me not, they gave me nothing.
SPEAKER_01:We'll see.
SPEAKER_02:I think they're uh I think a cash shakeup is is coming, but Larsa and Lisa were extras in their own show. Mirisol's a friend of, allegedly.
SPEAKER_01:She likes to be a friend of that's intentional.
SPEAKER_02:What does that mean? She's in every scene, like is she just getting paid less to do the same amount of work? Why does she like that?
SPEAKER_01:Because she doesn't have to share about her personal life, but she does not a lot. What she don't see her husband's kids, none of that. Does her husband have kids? Yes. So, um, RIPH, another season of Miami.
SPEAKER_02:We are very much for me, my my first season, and maybe my last.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's not how this works. Um, we're almost done with Orange County. Next week's the finale. I kind of liked this episode, I think. Yeah, I thought them in the human soup tubs, boat tubs.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. That was cool.
SPEAKER_01:Shannon Shannon's steering was wild.
SPEAKER_02:I was thinking at some point, do the producers have a responsibility to step in. I mean, she would think so. She was on something that entire time. The entire trip. So who took shrooms? So Heather, Emily, Emily, and I guess Shannon, maybe, but I think Shannon must have. But I think that they microdosed, and they were just like, you know, it's like when you're 16 and you drink like a smear-noff ice and you're like, oh, I'm drunk. It's like that. I don't think four to five grams a person is micro-dosing. Is that what they said? That's what Heather said. Oh. I didn't even know mushrooms were legal in Amsterdam. You should have spent a day there on your travels.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like it can't be far from where you were. I would like to go to Amsterdam. I just feel like that's a place that would be way more fun if I wasn't pregnant.
SPEAKER_02:Why? Because then you could do this with the space cakes. Yeah. Would you try mushrooms?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe in a tulip field.
SPEAKER_02:That's it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I would definitely try them. And I'm also ready to like never deal with Gretchen again.
SPEAKER_02:I just think like Tamara, she and Tamra made up, even though Gretchen spirit guys.
SPEAKER_01:She cried about it all that time.
SPEAKER_02:Because her spirit guide was still telling her not to trust her. Then get the hell off the show.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I'm sick of this shit.
SPEAKER_02:I do wonder why she even went on this show if she wasn't wanting to move forward if she wants to run in place.
SPEAKER_01:Like that's not and I also think that Tamra in the one confessional, I think it's a pink bean neck blazer she's wearing that's like low cut and shows cleavage. Her boobs look terrible.
SPEAKER_02:They do, they look weird. Yeah, they do. I noticed that too. I couldn't look at anything else.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, whoa, you chose to wear that. Next week will be interesting when we get to the homophobic likes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, Gretchen. How dare she says that it was they were doctored?
SPEAKER_01:How?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I mean, AI can do anything. Not that I'm coming to her defense at all.
SPEAKER_01:I just find that hard to believe.
SPEAKER_02:Um, okay, so Potomac. Can I just say first that Emily doesn't do anything for me and she could go?
SPEAKER_01:You're not alone in that. I I actually like Emily and Gina, but there's a very large uh population of Bravo watchers that want Emily and Gina to leave and have for a very long time. I do like uh Gina. She could stay. Okay, over to Potom Potomac. So the crazy thing about Potomac hasn't even occurred on the show yet, and that is Wendy doing the dumbest thing ever on the planet. Allegedly. Dr. Wendy with three degrees.
SPEAKER_02:Allegedly pretended that her house was robbed. And then went on. Correct. You know, part of me thinks that they'll give degrees to just about anyone.
SPEAKER_01:They gave me a college degree.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I just um and she's like taken back to Instagram but hasn't addressed. So are we just gonna pretend like this isn't occurring or I think she made a statement. What did it say?
SPEAKER_02:She's claiming she's the victim of an illegal arrest.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's right. She's just going after the way that the procedure went down, but she's not denying the claim.
SPEAKER_02:But on the show, I don't know that much. Like this is my first season of Potomac, so I don't have much, but I do think Stacy is an incredible character. She's she's giving um Bron, uh not Bronwyn, she's giving Brittany.
SPEAKER_01:She is um incredible. This is only her second season, so you know we're still learning her as well, but she's just she's just a nut.
SPEAKER_02:She's just a nut.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I have a very serious question for you. Have you ever or have you or have you ever done to someone else chin check? Can you tell me what that is, please? What does it mean? Uh I don't know, but you know, key Kiarna, she said her friend Angel, who she has been friends with for all this time, after she was defending Wendy, needed to be chin-checked, and she chin-checked her. And then it was a whole thing at the group event.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm like, what does this even mean? The phrase itself can be used to describe a literal or figurative wake-up call or challenge, often delivered with force. Okay, like a threat.
SPEAKER_01:I guess I'm just like having trouble getting into Potomac this season. I can't follow it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's Jeff Lewis was on Watch What Happens Live, and he said he's having trouble following it as well.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I'm happy to hear that because I'm not getting anything from this season.
SPEAKER_02:What's happening? Like, I can't pull anything really from it.
SPEAKER_01:No, me neither. This is a different type of season because we don't have Karen Huger, which is like a big miss. We have Griselle and Ashley. I know, but Karen brings like something different. Unfortunately, she had to go away for a while. She had to go away when she's warming it up for Wendy.
SPEAKER_02:She's out now, so maybe she can give Wendy some like advice on how to survive Joe. Okay, do you want to move over to 90 day?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So rumor has it. Kara and Guillermo are gonna be on last resort.
SPEAKER_02:I heard that rumor as well, but it seems like they've already divorced broken up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And and like also, why didn't they finish out this season?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm confused. I feel like when this stuff happens, they should at least tell us. Like, why have we never seen Mahmoud again?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. When you fire them, you need to let us know.
SPEAKER_02:They just like it's so it's seriously the wild, wild west on TLC. They don't give a fuck about the rules.
SPEAKER_01:They don't.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna not we're gonna just cut storylines in the middle of them. We're never gonna mention them again, like they didn't exist. We're gonna put people on franchises where they don't belong. You know, we're gonna put other white people on, you know, happily ever after.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, Michael and Angela have been on every franchise back and forth top to bottom.
SPEAKER_01:I also heard the Jenny and Summit are gonna be on last resort.
SPEAKER_02:They are very happy and in love.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even care because they're just like welcome on my screen anytime.
SPEAKER_02:That's true. That's that's a fact.
SPEAKER_01:Like, if we want to start with the other way, watching them do poop yoga was a short scene, but a great scene.
SPEAKER_02:Did they actually poop?
SPEAKER_01:Well, Jenny afterwards said she had to go to the bathroom.
SPEAKER_02:Then they flashed back in that the most disturbing part of that scene to me was a flashback where they were doing like floss through their nose and mouth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, that made me gag.
SPEAKER_02:What was that about? I can't remember, but I didn't like it. Otherwise, like we didn't have much that I can remember from them.
SPEAKER_01:Like their only scene.
SPEAKER_02:We were together, right? We talked about the mom and the sis the the aunt like yelling at Jenny.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was unsurprising, honestly. And the other way, otherwise, I mean, I haven't well. The Madeleine chick is nuts. She's only 20. That he needs to just like not and he's 31. I want to shake that dude in his dumbass earring and be like, is this what you want for your life? You having fun?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she's just putting on a show. I mean, I get it. Like when I was younger, sometimes like I would pick a fight in a relationship just because it's like, you know, I like drama and it's fun, but like that's too much. And to me, the fight over strippers is tired.
SPEAKER_01:I'm yeah, I'm sick of that.
SPEAKER_02:Too played out.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody grow up, and also I feel like you wasted a perfectly good-looking cake.
SPEAKER_02:That's the root of it all.
SPEAKER_01:That cake looked delicious, and I'm upset that nobody really got to eat it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm surprised we didn't see her like licking it out of her talons. Like we did a couple episodes ago. That was disturbing. That was more disturbing than anything Jenny and Summit did. Like, like just thinking about those long nails and what is probably growing on them and lives on them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, if she's willing to do that on camera, stick her long ass nails in a jar of Nutella and lick and just eat it that way. Like in front of a wedding coordinator.
SPEAKER_01:It's really bad.
SPEAKER_02:But she's young, she's a child, and it's gross that he is with the child.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So maybe they'll be done. That'll be nice.
SPEAKER_02:They can go.
SPEAKER_01:Um, let me think who else is on the other way. So we have the blonde chick whose name is escaping me.
SPEAKER_02:Who spies on her man from a tree?
SPEAKER_01:Man. Um, we love to see it. We love to see it.
SPEAKER_02:We have the French people.
SPEAKER_01:The French woman. Yeah, I just think their relationship stresses me out. She stresses me out.
SPEAKER_02:I don't understand. Yeah. I don't understand how this is supposed to fix their relationship.
SPEAKER_01:She's supposed to be working less so that she can bond with her son.
SPEAKER_02:But why did they have to go to France to do that? Because they need to live with her parents.
SPEAKER_01:Because France has a more laid-back work culture.
SPEAKER_02:That's not her personality. She's like Vicky Gumbelson.
SPEAKER_01:I can't relate. I was thinking that this whole time. I'm like, I haven't even had my child yet, but like I already don't want to work. So imagine wanting to work more than hang out with your kid.
SPEAKER_02:And also, like, well, this is just Vicky. I don't know if this is this French one, but with Vicky, like, she would be like at the nail salon and be like, I'm just gonna work a little bit at the nail salon, or like in the car, I'm gonna work a little bit on the way to dinner. It's like, what can you do in those brief snip snippets of time? She's like, if I'm not working, I'm not making I'm losing money, I'm losing money.
SPEAKER_01:What I I guess I could say that I've done that if if by work they mean responding to emails and slacks.
SPEAKER_02:Because like, yeah, how can she possibly have that many? And like, how can she what are the responses that are easy enough to do that she's literally making money? If I'm not working, I'm not money.
SPEAKER_01:That I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Like, why don't these people want to work? They could make they're losing money by not working. Like what?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know, but I don't want to work at all, so I can't relate.
SPEAKER_02:I would work a little bit if I won the lottery.
SPEAKER_01:I wouldn't, I wouldn't work seriously.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like I would get bored.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sure I could find ways to fill my days.
SPEAKER_02:You're right, you're right. Um, and we met a new woman, a Tasm, a woman and her much younger Tasmanian man. They are a mess. They've been together for so long, though. For 12 years, and it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:He's 10 years apart, right? He yeah, he he clearly can't come back to America, right? Like that must be what it is. Like he oversee his visa or something.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Did you see her licking his face? Yes, that was disturbing. Why are these people doing these gross behaviors on camera that I wouldn't even do in private?
SPEAKER_01:The balls on these people. No sharing. I know that was horrifying. Yikes.
SPEAKER_02:But they look like they're gonna be interesting, Ellie. She's a s a like a 50 something year old stripper, which mad respect.
SPEAKER_00:They're both strippers.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, that's right. He's a stripper as well. He's too much of like a ken doll for me.
SPEAKER_01:At least not for me, but you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, I I have my suspicions.
SPEAKER_01:Every lid.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, so you'd think their love is real?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That makes one of us. I guess we'll see who's right.
SPEAKER_01:On Happily Ever After.
SPEAKER_02:No one's happily ever after, on Happily Ever After.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Brandon and Julia seem happy now to be on their Europe trip.
SPEAKER_02:I love that for them.
SPEAKER_01:But not until after Brandon was crying on the floor, not knowing what to do, because he cannot get off his mother's teeth. Sick. It's like fucking sick. Their reaction, his parents' reaction to their their news they were going on like an extended European trip was so odd to me. We don't even know who you are. We didn't raise you this way. Like, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_02:Because he's gonna be away from them. That's that's she didn't raise him to to break free and be an independent. She raised him to be a mama's boy for life.
SPEAKER_01:I'm putting this out here right now that if I ever start to become that kind of mother, somebody needs to punch me square in the face. I will think we have to help each other. I worry because, like you know that there are a lot of mothers of sons often have weird relationships. Why is that? I don't know. I can't speak to that.
SPEAKER_02:Is it like the Oedipus complex or whatever?
SPEAKER_01:I can't speak to that at this time, but it's like I just that's I I can't imagine that can't become I can't become that.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I could see it for you, honestly. I don't you're just like such such a worrier, and you know what I mean? Like you made me take your catch of the vet when literally nothing was wrong with her. Her eyelid was swollen. It wasn't anymore.
SPEAKER_01:Um this is why I think it's also important to have two kids. Because like if Brandon's mom had another kid to obsess over, it might feel more normal. That's true, because the attention would be divided.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, so they're off, they're having fun, and I'm very jealous of them. We have Darcy and Stacey, they had a fashion show.
SPEAKER_01:Do big, do big, high fashion.
SPEAKER_02:They don't forget, they're an unstoppable duo. Here to stay. Their hair was insane.
SPEAKER_01:They're they're insane, they looked like aliens.
SPEAKER_02:That was wild.
SPEAKER_01:They looked like aliens.
SPEAKER_02:I have not seen such a wild runway walk since Bethany Frankel in those high heels. Remember that?
SPEAKER_01:It wasn't in the show, it was like off the show, but I just like I don't think Georgie's a good person by any stretch of the imagination, but boy, I feel sorry for that dude. They need to just divorce.
SPEAKER_02:What do you think he has to tell him? She he has to tell her something important next week. What do we think it is? He wants kids all of a sudden, and she can't tote them.
SPEAKER_01:Her decrepit eggs cannot tote nothing.
SPEAKER_02:She hasn't got no one to tote them. Her sister, her twin sister can't tote them, her kid. I mean, didn't Angela want her daughter to tote her, baby?
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:What if mom came to us and was like, can one of you tote?
SPEAKER_01:Angela was gonna tote it, she just needed the egg.
SPEAKER_02:Her daughter's egg. Well, that's worse. Is it not?
SPEAKER_01:Like it's all bad. Um, so they're you know, just I just find Darcy annoying. Like, if I had to sit in a car with somebody who's constantly asking me how I feel, I'd be like, shut the fuck up. I feel like I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe that's for the show. But also the way that the sisters like they're literally one being. Like, like her sister was using the we word, like we noticed Georgie that you were doing this. It's like this is not your relationship, it's not your battle to fight.
SPEAKER_01:I think they're like one being who also happens to hate each other, they don't hate each other at times. I've not seen that incredible competition.
SPEAKER_02:I've not seen that.
SPEAKER_01:That's just how I feel.
SPEAKER_02:I have not seen one iota of that, and next week we will get a good crying scene out of them.
SPEAKER_01:Can't wait.
SPEAKER_02:If they're good at one thing, it's sobbing into oblivion. Last but not least, Jasmine and Matt. I'm gonna be able to.
SPEAKER_01:All I have to say about that is that Elizabeth it really wants to be a housewife, she's trying to stir that pot.
SPEAKER_02:And she, yeah, she's trying her best with what she's been given. She's trying her breast. Yeah, she's trying her breast. So I support her and her efforts, but I can't be bothered.
SPEAKER_01:So the conversation with Jasmine and her mom was tough.
SPEAKER_02:Staged. Did you think? There's no way she's telling her mom all of this for the first time.
SPEAKER_01:Her mom can't be a good actress.
SPEAKER_02:How do you know?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I guess I well, I don't know. Maybe it was. Maybe I'm naive. I also thought that Matt's idea for the tow truck was like kind of good.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know that old beat-up tow trucks would cost 150k.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know Matt had 150k sitting around.
SPEAKER_02:But it's true, like he should learn like how to use a tow truck before he buys one, right?
SPEAKER_01:No, that's totally valid.
SPEAKER_02:But I thought Jasmine was cute. She was like, I don't want to pinch your bubble, but what if no one calls you to tow their car?
SPEAKER_01:Or what if everybody what if you get beat up by people that you're trying to tow?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, like, or like robbed. Okay, so back to the mom. I just remembered why I thought it was staged. I think she had to at least know about the open marriage because she saw like Jasmine was on TV with this these problems before.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know that they get access to that in other countries.
SPEAKER_02:You don't think they know anyone who gets access to that who would tell them?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know that Jasmine's mom is like going out of her way for that. Especially if Jasmine said, Don't watch this.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like that's the kind of thing that's unavoidable. You would get that from all angles. Like, can you believe your daughter did this and this and this? Like, that's gotta be like huge conversation topics when the when the extended family gets together and the kids have their TikToks. So that's that's why. Okay, you're probably right. I did think it was funny that she asked Matt, like, why did you want to do this? And he's like, Well, I was single and I didn't have anything else to do.
SPEAKER_01:So I thought you mean like that's the honest answer. Why not F a married woman? That's the honest answer. It's true, and she was mad at him for saying that, but like, what else is he gonna say? That's literally that was it.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how she lives with the guilt of the children she abandoned. I just will never that's always gonna be hanging over I don't think she feels any guilt, like a cloud to me.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think she feels any guilt at all.
SPEAKER_02:How? I don't know. That's like that's not a human person. I don't know. Like I get like you know, regretting having kids, but to just leave them and not even talk about them. And the thing is, she missed them so much.
SPEAKER_01:I think she made a conscious decision and and said she was choosing to not talk about them on the show anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well then in that case, if that's true, I respect that. And I think that's what everything back that I've ever said about that.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's what occurred.
SPEAKER_02:Also, why did she shave her head? Like, why on earth? Or alopecia. So she shaved her head? Mm-hmm. Wow. And now what? Where do we go from here? I don't know. She's just so vain, it really surprises me. That does surprise me as well, but like it's not the head shaving itself, it's like that she did it.
SPEAKER_01:We can't have many more episodes of this, right? Like, we've got to be nearing the end.
SPEAKER_02:You know how this goes. There's like 57 episodes. Like Jasmine's gonna be pregnant forever. Actually, that's a lie. I think she has the baby next week. Are you gonna be excited to watch it and see what you're in for?
SPEAKER_01:I know from the preview she did a bath birth.
SPEAKER_02:A water birth.
SPEAKER_01:I won't be doing that.
SPEAKER_02:Why?
SPEAKER_01:So no.
SPEAKER_02:Now that I know more about babies, it's like I I think I understand it. It's like because they're floating in liquid now. No they're born into liquid.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm I'm gonna be in a hospital bed with a lot of pain medication, and I'm gonna be right next to you holding your hand, but not looking at your badge. You will not. Um, that's all I have. Well, uh, that's all I have, yeah. That's all I have.
SPEAKER_02:What about Love is Blind?
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's where I was gonna go next.
SPEAKER_02:You were surprised that none of the couples got married.
SPEAKER_01:I was surprised, spoiler alert. Um, I was surprised. I thought it was wrong of KB to do that at the altar to Edmund because he's mentally unwell. She should have done it in private.
SPEAKER_02:I thought he handled it better than I would have expected. Still not great. Not great. But I just, you know, I he's he's a wild card and he wasn't as unhinged as I expected.
SPEAKER_01:I think Sparkle Megan did the right thing by not. I think she I think she did it prior to the wedding because I think the kid was probably gonna attend.
SPEAKER_02:Really? I was wondering if the kid was gonna attend, but I don't think the mom wanted him to be on camera. Okay, but then they could blur his face.
SPEAKER_01:Like, how is he gonna not be at his dad's wedding?
SPEAKER_02:That's true.
SPEAKER_01:And I thought that oh, go ahead. Rumor has it that she has since had a baby.
SPEAKER_02:Sparkle Megan? Mm-hmm. With whom? Some dude. Oh my god, I was just gonna say, like, I thought it was really like a nice raw moment at the end when she's like, our lifestyles don't mesh because he's like has to be taking care of this kid and working, and I can just travel and do whatever the F I want. And then she said, like, this is making me question like if I could even be a mother at all. And I was like, Yeah, because this lifestyle that you live, you don't get to live it when you have your own kid, or you know, at least with a stepkid, you only have to live that lifestyle half the time. Like your own kid is even worse for that lifestyle that you want. So the if she had a kid that is Sha King, I know she wasn't willing to give up her lifestyle for the tattoo man, but she gave it up sh a short time later. Correct. Is this true? Like, is this actually true or is it just a remote? I think it is, yeah. Who told you? How do you know? It's been all over everything.
SPEAKER_01:What is the evidence? I don't know how you didn't even see it.
SPEAKER_02:What is the evidence? Because I'm not on TikTok. Photographs of her with a child, like a baby, like walking around in a stroller.
SPEAKER_01:With a stroller? If I get one, I'll send it to you. I don't know why you haven't been like you you should know this stuff. I don't know how I'm breaking this to you, to be honest. Because I never there was no headlines about it. That's shocking.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, I I just feel like I can't count on you when I need you the most. You then you should probably get your own TikTok. You should probably be a stand-up sister, like the sisters on amazing race. A reference you don't understand, but you will.
SPEAKER_01:So Nick and Annie also didn't make it to the altar because I think she has an alcohol problem.
SPEAKER_02:One of my other friends was just saying that yesterday. I really do. Like, she was never not drunk on camera. I mean, Joe was drunk on it's because they had a lot of like events that they would go out to and tape them at.
SPEAKER_01:Word on the street is that after filming ended, Joe and Casey went on some dates.
SPEAKER_02:But he has a new girlfriend now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_02:And Casey is going to be at the reunion.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:So that's good.
SPEAKER_01:I was surprised that Allie and Anton didn't get married, but I think she definitely made the right choice.
SPEAKER_02:Me too. Even though I don't think he's that bad. Like, I don't think he does anything that bad. She seems like kind of a um a wet blanket.
SPEAKER_01:I think there's more drinking than they let on. Like, I think it is deeper than what we saw.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, the two beers after work, I know I defended him about that. Not that I have two glasses of or two drinks after work ever. Um, but like I think I can see people. Why are you smiling? I don't ever okay. If I have a hard day, I'll have like one glass of wine.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I'm not judging. I I just think that it's not just two beers after work.
SPEAKER_02:That's because then she was saying, like, where's the tequila that we just bought?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So, and then it was gone.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I think because also before the wedding, her mom was like, I don't like how much he drinks. That would be that would be hard for me to move past once you plant that seed in my head. Yeah. So we got nowhere, we got nothing. We got nothing, and it makes me wonder did I did I just waste 10 hours of my life or was I entertained?
SPEAKER_02:I was entertained, especially because I watched a lot of the episodes while walking on the treadmill, and it's like um the conversations can be so long and boring, like the editors really need to tighten it up, but it's like perfect for treadmill walking.
SPEAKER_01:Another thing that could be tightened up that I'm watching now flying through, I've actually caught up to all the episodes that are live, is married at first sight on its new home. Oh my god, I keep forgetting about that. Tell me everything. Is it good? I'm really enjoying it. I watched all the episodes in like two days, and there's like a mother-daughter on there who both got married at first sight. There's like two of the women that are like older. It's and they're men, obviously. Um, yeah, I'm excited that it's back and has a new home.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think we missed maybe a season or two because uh I didn't get lifetime anymore. We changed our cable.
SPEAKER_01:I think Lifetime paused it. So you don't think we missed any seasons? No, because it said season nine, even on Peacock. Sorry, season 19.
SPEAKER_02:And how do you know our last season that we watched was 18?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe we missed one because I think season 17 is available on Netflix, which is the last one I remember seeing.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Netflix is behind, they drop things behind, you know how it is. I think there's gotta be at least one season that we didn't watch, but that is so exciting to know. Maybe my boyfriend will watch it with me. We used to watch it together.
SPEAKER_01:You should definitely, it's good. I'm I'm into it.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome, because we kind of need something new to watch together. Yeah, I tried to watch Only Murders with him like from the beginning, and it just like was hard to get into it for some reason. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, we're me and my husband are so behind on all our shows from traveling and stuff. Like, we're behind on Survivor, Only Murders, but Amazing Race. Obviously, he doesn't watch that with me. Um, Amazing Race, we watch high potential, like ghosts. We're behind on so much.
SPEAKER_02:Ghost ended on a cliffhanger last seas. Did you even watch that? Mm-hmm. I did. Anyway, oh, I would like to say that Abbott Elementary had the woman from Jury Duty on, the one that said, This is one of the top 10 best nights at Margarita Belle. So good. So I just am like happy that she's getting more work because I really do love her. Yeah, and she was your neighbor. She was my neighbor, and I always saw her walking her dogs, and I never had the courage to say.
SPEAKER_01:Top 10 best nights at Margarita Belle.
SPEAKER_02:That I loved her work, and I really think it would have meant something to her. I think it would have too. So I regret it. That's like one of my life regrets.
SPEAKER_01:I know they say no regrets, but we also got the announcement that we have uh we have to address. We got the announcement that we are getting a six-part docuseries about the heiress tour. Which I'm excited. I'm thrilled. I've been that feels like a decade ago, though, because you've been gone so long. We've been gone, but I I've been hoping and praying that this would be available to us.
SPEAKER_02:And she's like the girl who cried Wolf with all her announcements. It's like shocking that she actually did one that was note noteworthy. Totally. After all the bullshit she put us through. It's crazy how she used to be so elusive and she would just drop things and then not talk about them, and just like she was so private, and the only thing you could glean was from her music. And now, like, not only is her music super literal, but that press tour that she did just like made me so fatigued. She was on every radio show saying the same thing. She'd give like one different nugget to each radio show, to each TV show. Like, I never thought I would say that I want to see less of her. You just have to be careful what you wish for, I guess is the lesson.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess so.
SPEAKER_02:Don't you agree?
SPEAKER_01:That bothered me less than the many album variants that really grinds my gears.
SPEAKER_02:And you know what? That's on the people that buy them. Like if people are gonna buy them, she's gonna do it. So I've changed my stance from that. I mean, that did annoy me that she did that, but that's that's America.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, anyway, are you gonna rot this weekend?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe we're going golfing tomorrow with my in-laws, and then Sunday I really want to get more Halloween decorations for our house. Girl, it's like for what, for one week? Yeah, for the night of. Like, I want to have a good enticing house for the kids, not in a weird way. I want to give them candy.
SPEAKER_02:I think your house looks great.
SPEAKER_01:There's not enough. It's not enough.
SPEAKER_02:I saw some people decorating yesterday. Two two houses decorating that I walked by, and I was like, you know, like you're barely gonna have any time to enjoy these decorations.
SPEAKER_01:Well, when we were growing up, there was a house on the street next to us that didn't decorate till the morning of, but that house always looked sick.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, that was like on purpose though. You know.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so I might rot a bit after that on Sunday, which will be nice. Now that you have a free house, are you gonna rot?
SPEAKER_02:Um, I think that my boyfriend and I might go on a hike tomorrow because I was like, well, now that we don't have any plans, like let's get something on the books.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then Sunday is definitely gonna be a rot day because it's now football's in season, so like that's what happens on Sundays is football. But the Chiefs don't play till Monday. You think that matters, Lil? He watches them all, he watches them all, and I'll I'll be like, who are you rooting for in this one? I don't really care. Then why are you watching this?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, hockey's back too, so I I get it.
SPEAKER_02:I think that like he also it's partly to do with fantasy, like he has got games on his fantasy, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They both do, and um, because they're I don't know if he's in several leagues, but they're definitely in a league together.
SPEAKER_02:I would just like to say that my boyfriend beat your boyfriend when they had last week.
SPEAKER_01:My boyfriend, my husband, he's doing terrible, he's doing terrible terrible. All of his players are hurt. I think he has a lot of niners. So well, my boyfriend's doing terrible too, but he did beat your man, so there's that smaller pepper skin tag beat Rachel Ray's thick wrists, and it seems like neither of you then will have the trophy next year. I think that's okay. I had it the once, and you've had it the once, and I don't need it in my house anymore.
SPEAKER_02:It's in the guest room where I'm recording. I'm looking at it right now.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, so there's that. Does it say pepper skin tag on it? Of course. You know, you had it. Well, it wasn't engraved with that name yet when we had it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, well, it is. That's so funny. Very much is anyway. Anyway, I'm like exhausted and it's almost 10 o'clock for you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm still a bit tired. I've been um going to bed, you know, around 9 and waking up 6 37-ish naturally, just because time change.
SPEAKER_02:So since I'm not gonna, we're not gonna be on the mic until next week, what are you gonna be for Halloween?
SPEAKER_01:An avocado.
SPEAKER_02:What's your husband gonna be?
SPEAKER_01:Toast.
SPEAKER_02:That is just like so clever, I can't even believe it.
SPEAKER_01:What are you gonna be?
SPEAKER_02:Uh well, you know, it was I wasn't gonna be anything. And but now that my plans have changed because of Alaska Airlines, I think I think I'm gonna be a hunting wife.
SPEAKER_01:That's very exciting.
SPEAKER_02:I know. I can't wait to see pics. I was trying to get you to guess what I was working on, and you simply could not, which was shocking.
SPEAKER_01:I think for some reason I just couldn't pull it. I was thinking of real life couples, that's why. I said pop culture. I know, but I just didn't think of fake couples. I I was only thinking real life lesbians when you said that. So oh, that was my struggle.
SPEAKER_02:Got it. Well, you know, it's luckily it's something that I I could pull together in one day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's an easy one. You just did you get a really bad wig?
SPEAKER_02:No, that's too bad.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna be Sophie. Well, did your counterpart get a really bad wig? It was too bad.
SPEAKER_02:It was so bad that she had to get a different one, even though I was like, that's the point. Yeah, really, that is the point.
SPEAKER_01:Oh well. Well, thanks everyone for rotting with us. Sorry that we were gone so long.
SPEAKER_02:I am so sorry. And this was like, I feel like kind of rambly and slow because I feel like we're just getting, you know, we're getting our groove back.
SPEAKER_01:Still is getting our groove back.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, bear with us. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I have to say something. I watched Annie Hall. Did you like it? I did not. Oh, well, then I don't need to watch it. The ending, I liked it. I the whole time I was like, this is such a good movie. The ending was a not good. Oh, that's too bad. Not good, dude. The ending ruined the whole movie. Oh no. But I thought that Diane Keaton was so cute and likable. Like, I have so many regrets about the things they've said about her in the past. Your hatred of her, R I P. I'm not gonna repeat it. And people were telling me I should be Diane Keaton for Halloween, and I was like, that would be so fun and easy, but I can't. Like, even my boyfriend was telling me, like, when we were watching, like, that's like an iconic outfit of hers. Like, be that. And I'm like, uh, that would be easy. He's like, you can go to the thrift store tomorrow and get all of that. But I just it didn't feel right. No, certainly not. After all the shit I've talked about, her, even though I do regret it and take it back, like I didn't want to um it wouldn't be right. No, it's just like I don't want to disrespect the dead in in such a way. That's fair, just because it's easy, yeah, and relevant. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, on that note, I can't wait to see pictures of you as a little avocado with your little pit. My little pit isn't so little anymore. Only there is an avocado pit. Have a great time at your party. Thank you. Have a great time at your golf. I'm sure it'll be a blast. And thanks for riding with us, everyone else.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks for riding with us. Bye bye!
