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26 - SLOMW, RHOSLC, RHOC, RHOP, 90 Day TOW, and 90 Day HEA

Lil and Madelyn Season 1 Episode 26

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There is so much to discuss this week! The gals get into a bit about Wicked Part 2, Bugonia, Pluribus, and lots about The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. They also of course get into all the goodness from the currently airing shows (The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Real Housewives of Potomac, 90 Day Happily Ever After, and 90 Day The Other Way), as well as why regular soap is better than foaming soap. All that plus a debate over who has more sex appeal between Lisa Rinna and Ashley Darby!

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to Rather Be Running, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive that expect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.

SPEAKER_01:

Hello. Hi, sorry I was opening my Coke zero.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01:

I know. It's a priority. Guess what else I have? What? A hot chalky. From where? From where? Starbs. When did you go to Starbs? Um, I went to the mall. I was looking for something and I couldn't find it. So I was like, whatever, I'm not gonna make this a total bust.

SPEAKER_00:

What were you looking for at the mall?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my god, it's so boring. I'll tell you off air. It's like seriously so boring. I was looking for soap, but we'll talk about it later. Just say don't go to the mall, just order it on Amazon.

SPEAKER_00:

The people want to know your soap journey.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, fine. Bath Body Works only has foaming cleanser in the reusable things. So actually, you know what? That's an important PSA. Like, if you don't want foaming cleanser, don't fucking go to Bath and Body Works for the reusable cartons. That's good to know because my husband actually doesn't like the foaming. I like the foaming, but when you put it in a dispenser that's not a foam pump, it just is like it doesn't work. Oh, yeah, that would make sense. Like in my bathroom right now, the soap in there is foaming soap and a with a pump that's not foaming, it does not work. It's yeah, that that makes sense because the foaming soap has a different kind of pump. Totally. And the smell is like so strong, and my boyfriend hates it because it comes out like you know, it's supposed to be more diluted. Are you happy that you asked? This is like so exciting for people to know. It's crucial. So how are you? You just got back from getting a little sweet treat, I saw. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We got ice cream at Apple something farm something.

SPEAKER_01:

Here in the case, not just any ice cream.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we got an apple cider donut sundae.

SPEAKER_01:

And you know it was pretty freaking good, I gotta say. Was it just vanilla ice cream? No, it was Dutch apple ice cream with caramel sauce, crumples of donut, whipped cream, and then a donut on top. Did you guys eat it all between the two of you? We did not. I'm so disappointed. I got really full. You're eating for two! I know, but the way he's I have to eat smaller meals because my stomach is compressed. That's crazy. Everything is compressed. I didn't even think about that. Like you think about how you have to eat more, but then you can't. You just I'll just eat again in an hour, you know. It's one of the main storylines on Secret Wives this season about how everyone's hungry and pregnant. I can relate.

SPEAKER_00:

If I had to hear those girls say they were hungry one more time, I did feel a little better too because Jen is like the queen of having her hand on her belly. So I'm like, it's not just me.

SPEAKER_01:

No, they're all doing it, they're all bumping out. Like, it's just it's a little much for me. I never rock a bare bell. And why not? It's 40 degrees here. Oh, yeah. You're the timing of your pregnancy is not not good. No, actually, it's perfect, and let me tell you why.

SPEAKER_00:

And I just I'm I know I'm sorry, I know everybody's sick of hearing about pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01:

I know what you're gonna say. Wait, let me guess. Can I guess? Yeah, it's perfect timing because you can like cover up and wear loose sweaters and stuff and not be too hot in your pregnancy. Nope. Okay, go. It's getting down near impossible to shave my legs.

SPEAKER_00:

If I had to wear shorts at this juncture or shorter dresses, I would need assistance shaving my legs.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. And you still have like three months to go, bruh. I know.

SPEAKER_00:

I can still put my own shoes on for now.

SPEAKER_01:

For now, I do have to sit down to do it. You're just gonna get like so much bigger. Well, I hope not so much bigger, like bigger within reason. Anyway, so how far into Mormon wives have you gotten? So I would just like to say that you literally changed my life.

unknown:

Why?

SPEAKER_01:

Because now you watch it while you're doing other things. Well, I'm working out. Oh my gosh, we were on the we were on the phone and I was bitching about how I had to like do my little workout and how I hated it. I hate it every second, and it's like that's a half an hour. Yes, it's only half an hour because I'm a wuss. That's a half hour. I I can't be like watching my shows, blah, blah, blah. And you, the smartest person in our family, said, Why don't you just play Mormon wives while you're working out? It's not like you have to be staring at the TV. And you know what? You were so right. I know. Like, even it made working out even just like a tiny bit better that I could have something else to focus my brain on, other than how much pain I was in. I know. I'm in. So thank you. And it's easy for you because I've done the Pamela Reef workouts and they she doesn't talk. No, she doesn't talk. So you don't have to be lit, you don't have to listen to be cued. I thought that I would need the music to hype me up, but the Mormon wives hype me up so much better than any music could. I bet. Like, I can't watch TV with my workout because she cues, she talks. Yeah, I don't need anyone to talk. Well, sometimes I need like directions. I mean, I guess that's fair. Okay, so I am on episode nine. I'm so close to being done. What are your thoughts? Honestly, there doesn't seem to be a lot of there there. This whole season is about the promotion of the season before it. No, I was very confused about that. Um, and I am done. And the way they end is very odd. Okay. Well, they came the see this season came out pretty quick, and I think everyone was kind of surprised at how fast they dropped this season. I feel like this should have been labeled as like a special edition of like, you know, the promo like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, the prom the promotion.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01:

And like I didn't realize that Demi and Whitney weren't in half the season or more. Do you think Whitney's showing on this season had anything to do with her elimination this week on Dancing with the Stars? Because that's the rumor. That is the rumor, and I can see why that would rub people the wrong way because she straight up came on to Mormon Wives and said, I'm only returning to this show so I can have a shot at Dancing with the Stars. And she got it, and that probably did make people mad. It's like, sorry that the fourth wall is broken down. I think it's something that no reality star villain has ever done before. It's something that no production has ever done before, is like let us in on that behind the scenes. I thought it was pretty badass. This show does nothing but break the fourth wall, and mostly it's a little too much, but Whitney, I I I applaud it. There was also um a rumor that she said the N F-bomb on Dancing with the Stars, and that also contributed to her being eliminated. She did say the F-bomb. I don't think that contributed. She just said, let's F and go. It was an accident.

SPEAKER_00:

That's like a$500,000 fine for them.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I think they uh bleeped it in time. They have like um live TV, they have like a button, a delay button. A dump button. A dump button, yes. So well, I have a few remaining questions. Okay. What does mom talk stand for? All they do all season is talk about how this isn't what mom talk stands for. This isn't what mom talk is about. So I'm I'm wondering what exactly it is about. In theory, mom talk is about women supporting other women, particularly Mormon moms with long wavy hair supporting other Mormon moms with long wavy hair in their effort to do little tiny dances and make funny faces and lip sync phrases that are kind of dumb into their iPhones. And why are why are we so concerned if if mom talk will never be the same or if mom talk will survive the scandals? Ask all of America who watches this dumb show.

SPEAKER_00:

But the thing is, like, I don't want I don't follow any of them on TikTok. Their TikToks never cross my for you page. Never.

SPEAKER_01:

Really? Whose do they? I don't know. That's why I'm curious. The only time I see their TikToks is when they show them in between scenes, like how that's how they splice up different scenes, and every time I see them, they're so cringe to me. Yeah, I never see them on TikTok. That's interesting because you're an active user, you'd think you would see it. And an avid watcher of Secret Lives. I mean so my other takeaways, other than I wasn't really sure what mom talk was all about, um, is I think Jesse's husband is terrible. Watching the way he talked to her is like fuck, I would cheat on you too. And then also, why are all of these women falling for Marciano?

SPEAKER_00:

He's literally not even hot.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I was shocked to see the man that was at the center of all these affairs. Slea's ball, totally like greasy, nasty. So back to your first point. I I don't know if I should say it. You think he's hot? Everyone was calling no, well, maybe I haven't really thought about it. Everyone's calling him a dick. Everyone's calling him a dick because of the way he talked to her and said it's disgusting that you invited this man you had an affair over with over for dinner. Like, I think that's valid. That is disgusting. And if you if you have the nerve to cheat on your husband and say you're so sorry, I'm sick over it, like I I regret it, and then you invite the man you had the affair with over for dinner. I mean, she deserves everything she she got. I'm sorry. And I, you know, maybe that's wrong. But that's my thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Filming a TV show.

SPEAKER_01:

What's your point? Where not a lot is happening. No, I mean, they are all lucky that Jesse cheated on our husband because, like I said, the pregnant hungry girl is just not a storyline make. Him include her husband included. Why? They don't those two did not need the money. They are rich as hell. They live in the biggest mansion of all time. Well, what though? Jay-Z Styles. Duh. Right. I can't speak to what happens between them behind closed doors. I don't see that. But the conversation that I saw, which is, I'm guessing, is what everyone's basing their hatred on him for, I don't I think that that was warranted. I think her behavior was disgusting. Hot take. Lock me up. Another touchy subject. What do we think about Demi saying that she was sexually assaulted by Marciano? I'll have a hot take too, then, if we're gonna go down that rabbit hole. Oh no, yours yours is gonna be worse than mine. We're just putting it all out there. We're talking about a victim of alleged sexual assault. Why was she still talking to him a bunch and FaceTiming him with her kid? All of that that they were saying was weird was in fact weird. It was weird. And her argument is that when you're a victim, you do crazy things like why do victims do what they do? I mean, she was likening it to poor Michaela, who was actually sexually assaulted by that was disgusting. By a family member when she was six. Yeah. And then she didn't want to tell on this family member because she didn't want to ruin his life. Like that is an example of someone who had like was sexually assaulted, not, you know what I mean, going through it. Do I think that there was unwanted touch? No, they don't. Wow. Also, if there was unwanted touch, this is the biggest meal in the coffin for me. Is she said, my husband knows about all of it. And then at one point we just felt so bad for him. We thought maybe we should order him DoorDash. Yeah, that's crazy. If anyone's husband thought they were even remotely the victim of a sexual assault, why would the husband want to send food to the accused? My husband sends a hitman to the accuser. Precisely, and that's what Whitney's husband said too. Yeah. So this is a very complicated, like, we're dealing with like a really complicated topic, and like Whitney straight up is just like, this is making me uncomfy because she doesn't want to go against me. But she has no choice. I agree. I've been seeing a lot about Michaela's husband, people not liking him, but I don't have an issue with him. I mean, I think he's okay so far. I think I think people were upset when he said he wanted to have sex three times a day. I don't think he was saying he was just being honest. Yeah, I don't think he was saying we should do that, but he's like a young guy in his 20s, and that's what guys in their 20s want to do have sex every day.

SPEAKER_00:

Then I I could do that, that would be great.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I think people took it wrong. I mean, I don't know. He seems kind of like a wimp, like he looks like a Jace. His name is Jace, and like that sums him up perfectly, and that's like about all I can say about him. But that's not his fault. Yeah. You know, you have to you you grow into the name you're given. That's why names are so important. All in all, oh, I did have one more astute observation that I did already share with you, but I think that Taylor's eyebrows are too close together. Taylor Frankie's eyebrows are too close together. I do agree. It's hard though. Like, sometimes I never know. I know you're supposed to start at the inner corner of your eye. Sure. But like sometimes I can't really tell. And sometimes I notice, like, oh my gosh, my eyebrows are way too close together. Like, I let it get out of hand, and then but then I don't know too much. She's got the closest together eyebrows I've ever seen in my life. It's pretty insane. Um, what do you think of dad talk? I think it's uh yet another thing that's never crossed my for you page. I think dad talk is a bridge too far for me. I liken it to the bad boys of 90 day. Me too. 100%. Equally disgust. What about what do we think of Layla's swashbuckler boyfriend who is the brother of her former lover? Couldn't care less. You don't think it's weird that she wants to have sex with two brothers? They're probably really bored there in Utah.

SPEAKER_00:

They can't drink, they can't have coffee.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, they can drink fancy sodas. Swig. Dirty sodas, they say. Sure. Anyway, so I guess I'll report back to you personally once I finished. I don't think we need to circle back on the mic. Not to the reunion, probably. Oh, thank god. Please tell me that marble mouth Nick Vial's not hosting. It's one Stasi Schroeder. They heard, they answered our prayers. They did. Oh, thank God. I know. Um, so Wicked's out. We didn't even talk about that. When are you gonna see it? I don't know. When are you gonna see it? I don't know. I might wait till Christmas. We did debate waiting till Christmas till we could see it together, but it's I mean, not that I'm so excited for it, but it's such a part of pop culture. I feel like I don't know if I can wait that long, but I'll try my best. I mean, I'm certainly not worried about it getting spoiled. I do in fact know what happens. No, but I don't want to see pictures of of what happens to Fierro and Bach. I'm not gonna spoil it all. You saw the the images? I saw TikToks. People have been recording in the theaters. Of them as their transformations? Are they good? Are they scary? Tell me everything. I I mean, are they supposed to be like kind of disturbing? No. I don't know. Like in the play when they transform, it's like so dramatic. Like, oh look what have you done to me. I don't I didn't specifically see that part. I just saw the aftermath as the yeah, the aftermath. I did see a shot of the back of Fiero's head as his new character. He looks like Ryan Reynolds with his makeup. Mm-hmm. It's really funny. Maybe I do need to look it up. Like, can we pause? Can I look it up right now? Am I gonna plan this for myself right now? I am, it's worth it. That is alone is worth it. What should I search?

SPEAKER_00:

Scarecrow and wicked.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, thanks for indulging me in that sidebar. So Jonathan Bailey said it was all prosthetics and like the magic of movies, not CGI. That's not Jonathan Bailey's face. They CGI'd Ryan Reynolds, just like you said. Yep. Why would they start with Ryan Reynolds's face in CGI? Why wouldn't they start with Jonathan Bailey's face?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

That's horrible. That is that is shitty. That's like not even good. I know. I'm that's prosthetics. Like, why didn't why didn't they just make him look like the Tin Man or the Scarecrow and the classic? I don't know. They're doing too much. The songs are already shit. Now the transformations are shit. You might as well just wait till Christmas to watch it. Yeah, now I feel like I could I can. We'll see. I'll try. I'll try my best. Anyway. So I did see another movie last weekend in the theater. It's called Bugonia. With Miss Emily Stone. Emily Stone, yes. Yes, yes, yes. So it has Emily Stone, aka Emma Stone. She shaved her head for this movie, and Jesse Plummins. He kidnaps like a high-tech CEO, like a big, you know, a big powerful woman at the head of her company because he believes she's an alien and he wants to meet with her leader to like talk about those aliens getting off the planet. And that's kind of like the premise of the movie is she's trapped in this guy's house with this loon trying to convince him she's not an alien. He plays a good loon. I thought it was really good. Oh, really? Yeah, I really liked it. Was it scary? Um, no. It wasn't. But my boyfriend thinks it'll be nominated for Best Picture. Oh, maybe I should watch it then. I think that, and I think Sinners. Have you seen Sinners? I think that'll be nominated for Best Picture. I heard it was good. I know you guys saw it. Yeah, it's really good. Also, not scary. Wow, wow. And you watched Plurbus finally. Two episodes. And I mean, we're definitely gonna keep watching for sure. I watched the third episode. I think what's her name? Carol needs to stop yelling at everyone. She's never gonna get away if she just keeps yelling at everyone. No, she's just gonna keep killing people. But our father made a great point is that they know that she can kill millions of people if she gets mad. So, like, she has so much power. I mean, she obviously because they'll do anything to make her happy, but like, can't she just say turn everyone back or I'll kill everyone by making you mad 17 times? Possibly.

SPEAKER_00:

Would you rather be one of the 11 or one of everything else?

SPEAKER_01:

That is a great cue, great cue. I think I'd probably rather be one of the everyone else. Definitely. I'm a sheep anyway, so it wouldn't be that much different.

SPEAKER_00:

Ignorance is bliss.

SPEAKER_01:

But my my pressing question is what do these people do when they're not at service to Carol?

SPEAKER_00:

I was wondering the same thing. Like once everything is put right, then what?

SPEAKER_01:

They don't talk to each other. They don't need to. Yeah, I don't know. Like it's almost as if I guess it's not lonely, but if they only have one brain amongst, yeah, like they just go to sleep. It's like the bodies are all just robots, boring, all working under one brain. Yeah, I don't know. So I I like I need to know more. Um, there's a new season of Man on the Inside. I don't think I'm gonna take that journey.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I've I took it, I took a lot of it last night.

SPEAKER_01:

And I just love it. I love Ted Dancing, his wife is in this season. I do, I that that does appeal to me. I like it. It's just feel good. It does feel good, but my boyfriend and I watched it last season and it was a slog. I just did I didn't feel that way. Damn. Maybe I'll give it another shot, but probably I won't. So, should we get into Bravo? Yeah, so I gave you some distressing news today. Yeah, you broke the news that Todd and Candy have split. After what, 11 years together? That's less time than I thought. Mama Joyce is probably popping champagne somewhere in Atlanta. So why don't people think that he's good enough for her?

SPEAKER_00:

It's been so long that I can't really recall, but I, you know. People thought he was didn't really do enough stuff to earn money, I guess.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. Well, that's so specific. Thank you. I'm just so glad that I have someone with me that has watched every season of every franchise who can really fill in the gaps here. The problem when you watch every season of everything is that there's just too much information, nothing sticks. Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, RIP to their relationship. I mean, we knew there was trouble brewing because he wasn't there when she achieved got her wife time achievement award at Bravo Con. Yeah. Good point. That's that's fishy. That is fishy. Well, we wish them the best. Both of them. And we're not gonna solve this here today. Except for we know that love is dead and maybe never was alive at all, so so just to get Orange County out of the way, we ended the reunion. We did.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that Tamra deserves all of the shit she got for setting all that information, but at the same time, I also think that Gretchen hates gay people, so two things can be true.

SPEAKER_01:

But she says she doesn't. Big whoop. You can say a lot of things. But why would she hate Heather's children?

SPEAKER_00:

Why would you but all of the points still remain where like that kind of shit doesn't show up on my Instagram, tell you that.

SPEAKER_01:

That is a good point. This is why Uber religious people are hypocritical.

SPEAKER_00:

She's like, maybe I liked something they posted about God, and it's like all of these Jesus people also hate the gays.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, most of them. I mean, there are some religious people who are gay and who do support gay people.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but that's the minority.

SPEAKER_01:

I fear you might be right, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00:

So I think now that well, Gretchen doesn't never need to come back.

SPEAKER_01:

What about the camera leaking the information? And I put that in quotes because no information was actually leaked.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I think she seemed really upset by the accusation, and like the it is a good point.

SPEAKER_01:

Like, why would she do that now when she hasn't done it before? Yeah, when she's been on for like over a decade. But all the evidence points to her. There are things that only she knew. So I don't know, unless it was somebody in production telling this person, was this just production, like finding a random person to do this phone call? Do you know what? I'm gonna be really honest with you.

SPEAKER_00:

I have no idea, and I also don't really care.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, well, moving on then. I did think the only thing that really made me laugh was when Tamara said to Emily, I have been nothing but nice to you this whole time. And Shannon interrupts and says, You called her Shrek for a whole year. That really made me laugh.

SPEAKER_00:

She did.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I think we need her in our lives, especially with the return of Vicki. Like, I think she'll stay. That has changed the dynamic completely. I feel like this changes everything, and anyone who said Tamara should go, I think needs to reassess now that Vicki's coming back. Yeah, I think that's valid. She'll stay. So, what about Potomac? We met Monique for the first time, or at least I did. I had already met Monique. Has she changed? Is she the same as she was before?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, her change is similar to that of Portia in Atlanta. People will understand who watched that when she was married to her first husband, Cordell. She was like really buttoned up, really put together, like wife. And then they split and she like kind of became a different person. And I think similar thing is happening with Monique.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, good for her. Sidebar.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you see Portia on the plane?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

With the the Karen who said she attacked her, and then some other guy was like, No, that she put her finger this close to my eye.

SPEAKER_01:

And I lolled at that. That woman was not well, and Portia's just like, I didn't touch her. Yeah. That's all I had to say. Nope. You didn't touch her? Nope.

SPEAKER_00:

So good.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm glad that there's body cam footage of the aftermath.

SPEAKER_00:

So Ashley at the Pride event wasn't doing it for me.

SPEAKER_01:

In terms of her outf her her costume or the sad t-shirts she handed out?

SPEAKER_00:

The t-shirts were sad, and there was something about the energy that I wasn't buying. Like what? Elaborate. Like when she comes in the and everybody's like, oh my god, you look so good as like a man, whatever, and she's like trying to be all suave and whatever to like be the persona. I'm like, This is just silly to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Someone already did this, and her name is Ariana Maddox, and she did it much better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But apparently Ashley has dressed up as a man before, but also had like her hair done like a woman, and I kind of feel like the similar about Ashley as I do about Lisa Rina. Like on paper, they should be an attractive, sexy person, but I find them to have zero sex appeal.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. I think that's worse than any take I gave about the Mormon wives, husbands. That is Lisa Rina is next level cringe.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not saying that Ashley's the same level of level of cringe. I'm just saying I I feel similarly in that you're not going to be able to do that. I don't find her to have any sex appeal.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Okay. I disagree. I think Ashley has leaps and bounds more sex appeal than Lisa Rina, who I have famously said not safe for work things about how unsexy she is. Um yeah, I think Ashley's a little better. Like, remember when she was like making out with Ralph? Like, I thought that was kind of hot, but I I had a huge crush on Ralph. She doesn't do it. Well, I certainly didn't.

SPEAKER_00:

Just wasn't doing it for me. That's that's all I gotta say about that.

SPEAKER_01:

What did you think of the five minutes we got of Jazzy's wedding? I thought it looked opulent. Yeah, I could have spent more time there. Yeah, I could have too. I think we should have, but there's one thing that I did like other than that, was the lunch with Wendy and Stacy, where Stacy proceeded to sit down and say, My cannabis company is nothing like your husband's cannabis company called Happy Eddie. My company is the name, the word happy in Nigerian. It's joy, yeah. Joy, happiness. She said happiness, and the way Wendy looked at the camera like she was Jim from the office. I don't appreciate that. Yeah, and she was so chill. Like she was so chill about it. Like Stacey is literally ripping off her husband's cannabis line. If this were Bethany, oh my god, I mean, the way Bethany just tore into poor Sonia for having tipsy girl when she knows Skinny Girl. As if Sonia could ever compete. Yeah, like leave her alone. She's not a threat to you, she's just like a little fly. Like, let her fly around, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Totally. And I think Wendy, well, now she's got a bigger fish to fry, but at the time I think she understood that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, I think so too, and that's why she had a little bit more level head on her shoulder. In that specific situation. And now aren't they being accused of stealing furniture, or is that Mia from Potomac? I believe that's Mia. That's a substantial. Who also had a mugshot of this late. That's an interesting crime. Stealing tens of thousands of dollars in furniture? How do you pull that one off? I would love to know. Where do you hide it? It's furniture. A storage unit, perhaps? Perhaps. So shall we move on to the crown jewel? Yes. Salt Lake Sate. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

What did you think of Meredith showing up to the church in a boot?

SPEAKER_01:

I thought that that was peak Meredith. That didn't surprise me. I loved it. What did you think of their party to cheer up Brittany where they all had high body count hair?

SPEAKER_00:

I thought it was really nice of them, but also Brittany feeling so loved and saying it's all about me made me want to throw a unicorn overboard again.

SPEAKER_01:

I liked it. And I loved how Bronwyn had like a build-a-bear at her house. That is a great idea for a kid's party. It is. Now I'm like happy for her that she's getting all this love after she was traumatized on that plane by one Meredith Marks.

SPEAKER_00:

What did you think of the scene with Jared and Britney?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my god. I'd love those two goons to get their own spin-off. I know because I feel like they're already plotting it. Like they they're already in their own movie in their world. Totally. And her extensions are just like so bad. They are so bad. And the way Jared, like he she's like, fine, and she's walking away, and he walks away and he's like, Brittany, wait. Come on her back. I just loved it. Like, Jared is also meant to be a housewife. He's like Slade, he's Slade 2.0. I can see him becoming a Slade. Yeah, he's very muscular. He's got like he's pretty jacked. Sure. It just does nothing for me when he's so insufferable. I like him. Like, I really could watch a spinoff of them. I could too.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought the conversation between Lisa and John was very telling. They went to get a scone and what did Lisa get? A lemon loaf. For some reason, their orders really stuck out to me. And they were just talking about how they're just like not on the same page. I guess this specific example, she was annoyed because she was trying to give her kid advice and he told her to like phrase it differently or something. And I'm like, this can be solved very easily if you just say, tell me that not in front of the kid.

SPEAKER_01:

I was thinking that the whole time. What she needs to say is, if you're gonna tell me something like that, just don't do it in front of the kid, but she couldn't communicate it properly. They just like that's the whole scene, the way they were talking to each other was just like, if this is what they're doing on camera, shit's bad behind closed doors, I feel. Yeah, because Lisa, I feel like, is very guarded about stuff like that. Yep. But she knows she has to give something. I think that one John Barlow is probably about done with her. And what about one Todd? I think it's a race to see who breaks up first. Batman is a gremlin. He's literally an oversized gremlin. His face is such a gremlin face. She needs to just like let him go. All the money in the world could not she's like tell she's like saying, if you want to be the other woman, just tell me. Like, I'll be cool with it. I'm like, Bronwyn, you don't have to do this for this man. No, you don't have to do anything for this man. Did she sign a prenup? She must have. Otherwise, why would she not just like walk out the door? That's a great question. I like how Britney said, if you guys break up, can I have two of your rings? And she said, Yeah. I would like one. I mean, if she's giving them out on All's Fair, there was this um episode where this woman was divorcing her husband and she had like millions of dollars worth of jewelry that he's like, You're not getting a penny. And she's like, I'm taking all my jewelry that you gave me, and that's millions. Yes, I know I saw it. Did you watch all of it? Are you caught up? Uh, I think so. I might be one behind. I'm definitely one behind, but I can safely say maybe three or four episodes in that this is exactly why shows should not be written by AI. AI is not far enough along to write a good TV show yet. Nope, we're not there yet. So that's just like a note. Like, okay, let's let's try this again. I mean, the fashion's good, the acting is like as best it can be.

unknown:

Like portion.

SPEAKER_01:

Like again, Nisi Nash won an Emmy for that Dahmer show. And the the writing they are giving her is truly distressing. It's really bad. It's like making her look so bad when she's so much better than this, and like she has such a serious storyline, and the writing is just terrible. AI doesn't know how to deal with sexual assault yet, and I hope it never learns. Nope.

SPEAKER_00:

Back to Salt Lake. Was there anything else that you felt? Did you feel moved by the Holy Spirit watching Mary in her congregation?

SPEAKER_01:

I fast forwarded some of it. No, how could you? It went on for like 10 minutes, dude. Did I miss anything pertinent?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, what really made me giggle is when she said, I never plan what I'm gonna say, I just let it come to me. And then as I'm watching her sermon, I'm like, mm-hmm. We can see that.

SPEAKER_01:

Because it was so rambly, right? Oh, yeah, definitely. So now you understand why I had to fast forward. I don't know. I was fascinated watching it because it's like she's so rambling, and everybody else is like, yes, yes, between everything, like every pause, it's like because she could say, I killed someone, and be like, yes, hanging on every word. Yeah, I did think was really powerful and sad was that she takes Robert into the church and shows him around and tells Robert Jr., her son, how excited she is. And then the day of, she took turns to her friend and says, We got in the car, come here. And I could tell he was high, and I was like, You can't come today. Like, this is this can't be about you right now. That must have been so hard for her that like he this moment is so important to her, and he can't even stay sober for it. I know. I felt really sad for her. That boy looks so much like her. It is banane. I know that is like a little Mary, it should be Mary Jr. Anyway, I do I think it was another great episode. I mean, I don't there's not as many like uh phrases, nothing jaw-dropping, but nothing iconic so much. Yeah, nothing iconic, nothing that I'm probably gonna remember in five years, like except the boot. The boot didn't mean that much to me. It meant a little. I liked it. It meant a little. I still had a blast. It's still way better than any episode of Orange County or Potomac so far this season or Atlanta last season. Amen. Even when they're doing nothing, it's just so easy for them. Yes, but that was me cheering you on like in your congregation. But can you imagine if I had all those people hanging on my every word? I'd be drunk with power. The influence I would have. I already have such persuasive powers as it is. Before we leave, Bravo, Southern Charm is back. And we're off to a great start. I love Southern Charm. What's what are the highlights? Break them down.

SPEAKER_00:

Craig is still sort of spiraling from his breakup with Paige. By the way, I'm very much team Paige. He's a little bitch.

SPEAKER_01:

Of course. Um, there's gonna be big falling out between Austin and Craig, or I guess the fallout will continue.

SPEAKER_00:

Vanita and Craig are beefing because Vanita took Paige's side, which is also great to watch. And we got to attend Madison's baby shower in the first episode, which was thrown by Patricia, so it's beautiful. And Madison spent some time talking about how miserable being pregnant is, and said anyone who says it's great is lying, and I saluted her.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, finally, someone's speaking your truth.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because you know, I called mom again to bitch about some shit.

SPEAKER_01:

We would we had been talking about the I'm having some pelvic pain, whatever. And I called her to ask a question about something else. She goes, I'm sorry to hear about your pelvic pain. I didn't have any of that. I was like, Okay. I'm sure you fucking didn't. She's like, All these things that you talk about, I just didn't experience any of it. She had daisies growing out of her vag while she was pregnant, literally, out of her belly button. Congrats, congrats. Affriggin' Snow White with animals running up to her in the horse. Like running so gingerly. Yeah, through a finger. But now she pees when she runs, so the joke's on her. Well, if what's happening to me now isn't any any uh forewarning, I'm not far behind. Anyway, shall we go to the learning channel? Yes, but it's what did you learn? I'd like to start with To because the other way, yes. What is wrong with Menon? She's so mean. She's the way she went from zero to a hundred when he said the word apartment. I was like, oh my god, are you okay? You know what she is? You know, on Wednesday, they have those creatures called hides that just like she's a hide? She's a hide. She goes from a normal person to a monster in like two seconds. It was the craziest reaction I ever saw. And then when they were at that house, I was like, This house is like fine. And she was obsessed with that tiny ass bathroom and kitchen. Oh my god, I was like, what the hell? She was almost equally her energy, it was almost equally scary, but in a happy way. Yes, like which is even scarier that she can go from zero to negative 100 and zero to a hundred, like all in a span of an hour. Totally. This woman needs to be medicated, honestly. I agree. And her husband is a fucking saint, and I don't think he's well either if he puts up with her. Like, he might be too medicated. It's very possible. Who else did we have on this episode? We had the the Australian man serenading his older woman girlfriend before feeding her kangaroo against her wishes.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you like the song?

SPEAKER_01:

I did like the song. We've heard worse reality TV seasons. Absolutely. Remember on Love is Blind, that one guy's like, I just want the real thing. And then Chelsea's like, I just want the real thing.

unknown:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01:

And then remember the other guy who's now with Bliss, who can't seem to buy a Halloween costume that fits her? He's like, Irena. Oh my god. Horrifying. I don't need to relive that ever again. Um I think about it like from time to time, it pops into my head. I don't want that for me. So anyway, I love that he got he got caught out. He got caught out.

SPEAKER_00:

But did he yes? I fully believe that there was a moment where they were in a fight and he said, Well, my mom wants me to marry somebody younger, and it was a lie.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't think it was a lie, dude. I think his mom his mom said that because then his mom's like, I never said I wished he were with someone younger. That's an odd thing to say. I'm like, it's really not, especially if you're a bitch. Of course she wants him to be with someone younger. Of course she said it. He said it to her when he was mad, and he now he's trying to protect his mom and take the fall. Well, it's his fault for saying it, because if you had an intention to stay with this woman, you should that should just never need to know that. You know, but sometimes in the heat of the moment, you know, you say something to someone and then you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. We've all been there. Anyway, who else did we have? Uh, we had the Lucille Ball of the 90-day franchise. Who is it? Jenny! Oh, oh my gosh, I should have known. Her hijinks with the coffee machine were totally giving like um Lucy with the truffles in the chocolate factory. That scene was excruciating. She's just so dim. It's just screwball comedy at its finest. And then the dad comes over to try to help. And you know what's funny is I call him the dad. She also calls him the dad. The dad of his dad.

SPEAKER_00:

Like in the talking head, she'll be like, the mom said this, and the dad said that, like, she that's what she calls them. I never noticed that. You will now. It's so funny to me. It's like if I talk to you about my in-laws at any time and I said, Well, the mom says this.

SPEAKER_01:

My sister said that. I cannot wait to like watch with fresh eyes, and I'm sad that I never noticed that before.

SPEAKER_00:

So she can't figure out the coffee machine, and then the dad comes over and he also can't figure it out, and then they both realize it's not plugged in, and then the customer leaves.

SPEAKER_01:

That cappuccinous. Is that not a sitcom episode? It is, and then the dad is like, she's supposed to have learned this by now.

SPEAKER_00:

And then, like well, she is supposed to have learned this by now.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, did anyone teach her step one is to plug it in? Nope. Life skills Jenny does not have, and that is why she's with this 30-year-old man who also doesn't have life skills.

SPEAKER_00:

That's really, I feel like, all that happened in this episode.

SPEAKER_01:

And then we have our 90-day hooligans all in the same house again. Honestly.

SPEAKER_00:

Did we see them in the house? We did see them in the house. I remember now.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, how could you forget the how could you forget the bartender who seemed like he was a fan? Do you think they hired a 90-day fan? That bartender was cracking me up. Me too. I cared about him more than anyone else on that show. I was like, give the bartender a confessional. No, I would love. Some of these people have the worst detective skills in the world trying to prove that that's Matt's phone number. That was embarrassing. Well, everyone upstairs was like having so much fun. They looked like the place to be. Yeah, I would never want to. I'm sorry, I don't need to lick Darcy's nipple as long as I'm alive. Honestly, I would rather do that dare than a lot of other dares. That's true. Like, that seems like an inoffensive dare in the scheme of what people could think of.

SPEAKER_00:

But the next day in the car, when Kara said, I taste your perfume all night, I I could then taste it. I was like, I know exactly what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Mainly I would just want to be upstairs in that room because it was far away from Gino. What did you think of uh back at the actual Tell Wall?

SPEAKER_00:

The Kara and Guillermo stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I sorry, but like if your mom well, I guess I would want to know how often she was out partying till like 4 a.m. Yeah, how regular of an occurrence was that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Because if it's like once a week, that's a no. Oh, really? I was gonna say that should be it. No, I feel like that's a stretch. 4 a.m. Why do you need to be out till 4 a.m. in your 30s with a kid? Yeah, like not what are you doing? Yeah, I don't like it. I applaud her energy though, because like now I don't even know if I could stay out till 4 a.m. Like I used to. I can't really stay out past nine or ten. And you never could. Never could. We also get Julia telling her parents on the phone that she's pregnant. Did you think that was real? Her dad is everything to me. I don't care if it was real. All I care about is her dad. Love him. I'm I missed him. It was so good to see him again. Cracking jokes, like no time had passed. I just want those two to be together. Her mom and dad? Yes. They need to parent trap those two. They need to get those two on Love Island or whatever, Love Hotel. What is that? Last resort.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I love how when they dialed up Ron and Betty, Betty, wine in hand, flushed cheeks, she's already drunk.

SPEAKER_01:

Never not. She almost makes it a point. Like she knows that's how everyone wants her to be because she like is in the zoom, like holding her drink like up high so that catch up. I mean, that's what they're doing. They want to create a show. And I think a lot of what they do is for a show.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I get I get conflicted because some of it seems so fake. And then you have Brandon sobbing on his kitchen floor, and I'm like, can this fucker really like pretend that that well? Is he that good of a fake crier? Like, I don't know. I really don't know. That's a good question. I don't think so. I don't either. So then some of it's real, but I do think that Betty and Ron already know about the pregnancy. I do too. And I think her parents probably do too. Yeah. So yeah, that episode was kind of a nothing to me, honestly. I mean, I was entertained. I mean, it was fine. I just they're just so long. Yeah, pretty, pretty long, but we're halfway through the tell all. So two to go. Did you finish maths? I did. I did not. I did not watch decision day yet, but I would like to say, having watched everything up to decision day, that I feel bad that I encouraged anyone to watch because it literally all fell apart in those like last two episodes. Just like everything, all my hopes and dreams just like fell apart. What do you mean? Just like all the couples that I liked, like seemed to just like Chad and What's her face, like they couldn't seem to get their shit together. Alinda. Correct. Um, and then the cliffhanger ended on it's not really a cliffhanger, it's the fact that oh what's this n what are their names? The one that told the girl no he was gonna say Will and Brittany. Yeah, with Will Britney saying that Will told her he was gonna say no on decision day. I can't wait for you to watch Decision Day and the reunion. They're both out. Mm-hmm. You know what the tragic thing is? I feel like I'm gonna be so busy this weekend. I I honestly wish you had just watched it without your boyfriend before this. Me too, because like I waited for him, and he's just gonna put me to work all weekend, and we're not gonna be able to watch anything.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I think the deal should be that you will work once you watch those two episodes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, we start the morning with one episode, and then at the end of the night we watch another.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. You gotta you have to. I can't keep it inside for much longer.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe I'll try to stay up tonight and watch it when he gets home. Just take a nap and have him. He always wakes you up when he gets home anyway. I know. I awoke to my husband coming to bed at three o'clock in the morning last night. And you're giving Kara shit when your own husband with a pregnant wife at home comes home at three in the morning?

SPEAKER_00:

Are you kidding me? He doesn't do that on the reg. Also, side note, watching you switch between swigs of Coke and hot chocolate is wild.

SPEAKER_01:

I was doing the Coke and now I'm doing the hot chocolate. I wasn't switching. I've seen you go back and forth. One time! I I I switched one time, then I stuck to the Coke zero, and now I'm specifically on the hot. It's just crazy behavior. The hot chocolate is cold, by the way.

SPEAKER_00:

Now what a surprise. Anyway, no, he was at a work function that had an after party, and he had set the expectation that he wasn't gonna be home until two or three, so I wasn't alarmed.

SPEAKER_01:

Did he take a shower right when he got home? No. Let's call back to Karen Gammo. I know he didn't seem disheveled, he didn't run to take a shower. Was he drunk? I don't know. I was half asleep. Who can say? He never gets hungover. He's always gets hungover. He gets hungover more than me. It's he his version of hungover is just being tired. Oh. So like he did take a nap. Like he's fine. Anyway. Anyway, I'll try to get that shit done. Did you watch Amazing Race? I did. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't believe how the mighty have fallen.

SPEAKER_01:

Like I wanted them to get like to I didn't want them to win, but the way that the meltdown I just wanted them to be knocked down a few pegs. I didn't want them to get eliminated. I mean, I eventually wanted them to get eliminated, but I wanted it to happen gradually over the next episodes. Yeah, that was just like Tucker can't memorize. That poor sad man. Why didn't his brother do that one? I mean, maybe he can't memorize either. But they got through the olives like really well. It was just that one challenge that was their downfall. And poor Tucker is like gonna be haunted by this for the rest of his fucking life. He could never look at a Greek letter again, I'm sure. Dude, that and the fact that like all the U-turned people like finished their first task and got to their second task before anyone else. These people are nitwits. They needed that reset to make it more fair. It's still they still creamed them. I know, and like watch still watching Chelsea and her dad not be able to navigate. I can't watch them for much longer. Like, they literally did like this dramatic shot of them in the middle of this like busy area, and they did like a round like of them just like looking lost into the distance. Like, also when they saw, oh, this is the roadblock we're not doing, like, just do that one. You're here.

SPEAKER_00:

I yeah, I mean, I might like that one looked 10 times easier anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what everyone finished in five seconds. Yeah, they need to go. Are you gonna rot this weekend? I'm assuming not, since you now have a cabinet project. I came home to all my cabinets ripped out, and we are leaving for Thanksgiving in a week. And yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm a little distressed. So that's your weekend plan. My boyfriend assured me that it's definitely doable, but it'll be close. He's always very confident. He is. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna rot this weekend? Well, tomorrow I have pelvic floor therapy in the morning, and then I mean I'll definitely rot this weekend for sure, but I think also I'd like to go shopping.

SPEAKER_02:

For what?

SPEAKER_01:

Comfortable clothes. Okay, I want to buy comfortable clothes, the maternity clothes that I got. Um they're a little tight. You've already outgrown them. Yeah. I hope you didn't spend a lot. I didn't. Great. Well, good luck. Are you gonna what are you gonna watch? Good luck to you. Yeah, I feel like I need the luck more. I'm like, honestly, I'm just trying not to think about what is happening around me. I think I'll probably try to keep watching purbus.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well, it only drops like a one at a time, so and I'm making a mac and cheese for Thanksgiving, so I gotta practice that this weekend, also actually.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you want my rest? Chrissy Tigens Rest?

SPEAKER_00:

I have that one.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I'm gonna try something different. Excuse me. Mix it up. Okay. Will you enjoy that? I don't think we're gonna be able to record next week because I will be on the East Coast for Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00:

We'll take a Thanksgiving break. But we'll be back.

SPEAKER_01:

We'll be back and hopefully I I will have good news to report on my kitchen situation.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Prayers up, prayers up, happy Thanksgiving to all. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. If we can somehow take to the mic before two weeks, we will try. If not, enjoy your turkey. Thanks for riding with us. Thanks for riding with us.