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28 - RHOSLC, RHOBH, RHOP, and 90 Day TOW

Lil and Madelyn Season 1 Episode 28

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The gals are back with so much to gab about! RIP Rob and Michelle Reiner, what's going on with Riley Keough and John Travolta, and of course all the currently airing shows (The Real Housewives of Potomac, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and 90 Day the Other Way). Lil convinces Madelyn to watch 90 Day Before the 90 Days, but not the new iteration of Vanderpump rules (yet). All this plus lots about baby showers, Christmas gifts, and romantic dreams about unexpected celebrities! 

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to Rather Be Roman, where two sisters who should really be doing something more productive that expect all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.

SPEAKER_00

Hello. How are you, Well? I'm Dandy. We're um a week removed, two weeks removed. From what? This podcast. Oh yes. Even though we weren't, in fact, in the same place last weekend.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, we were in the same place at the same time last week, but we just couldn't get to the mic. We didn't have time. We had a baby shower to throw. Well, first we saw Wicked 2.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

And I give it like a middle thumb.

SPEAKER_00

I'd say a middle thumb. I was I was entertained.

SPEAKER_01

The new songs they added, though, straight trash.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, those were sleepers, in my humble opinion.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you could tell by the titles of the songs when I heard the new songs were gonna be called There's No Place Like Home and The Girl in the Bubble. I wanted to throw up.

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, I didn't know what their titles were.

SPEAKER_01

So you were better for it. Um we finally got to see what the all the fuss was about with Alphabet's sex cardigan. Your thoughts? I think it was worth the fuss. Okay. It's interesting. She takes off her like outer jacket and leaves her black dress on and then puts on a cardigan.

SPEAKER_00

And it's you know, too chilly for no cardigan, but too warm for the other jacket. It's very simple.

SPEAKER_01

And too warm for a cardigan that's not like ripped to shreds.

SPEAKER_00

She probably had to fashion it herself.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe the flying monkeys got to it.

SPEAKER_00

Who can say?

SPEAKER_01

Who can say? But you know, you and also who can say about the temperatures in that cave/slash lair? Like we can't speculate. It's odd.

SPEAKER_00

This is in a tree. It was a tree house? I think it was a tree house. I thought it was a cave. No, I believe it was a tree house. Oh oops. Anyway, then we had the baby shower that was almost for naught. Because snow. Wild weather whipping through the east coast.

SPEAKER_01

So I feel like a dumbass because I didn't even know it was going to snow. Really?

SPEAKER_00

None of us knew. At least not at that level.

SPEAKER_01

Our mom said she knew.

SPEAKER_00

She could have told us. Or some people did use it as an opportunity to bail.

SPEAKER_01

And we'll never forgive them.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I don't feel great about it, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

Did you get presents from the people who bailed?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

All of them? Yeah. Well, good. I'm glad, you know, the gifts are the most important thing in this situation. It's not really about who's in attendance, it's about what gifts you get.

SPEAKER_00

I actually disagree. It it mattered a lot more to me than I thought who was in attendance.

SPEAKER_01

Does that mean you were hurt but that so many people bailed? And by so many, I mean like a handful. I I was. I'm sorry that the people who were there weren't good enough for you. No, they definitely were.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want it to seem like that's not the case. I think I just like was already going into it with mixed emotions because everybody's so spread out, and a lot of my friends are still in LA, and it's like obviously they weren't gonna be able to come, and it logistically wouldn't make sense to have one in LA, and like all of that was already sitting there. So then when the people that I did have here on this coast like were bailing, it was like extra salt in the wound, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

Combined with pregnancy hormones. Oh my god, and I understand, and well, I mean, I don't understand that part, but I I mean I can I can empathize. Yeah, but it turned out being and it just like meant so much more, at least to me, the people that did come totally like every person that I saw that I met for the first time or that I had met before, they just you know, I gave them a lot of credit. Yeah, meant a lot to me that people turned out. So have you been watching the Taylor Doc? Have you watched all the episodes that have dropped? Because I have watched this many.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, she's holding up a big goose egg. I've watched this many.

SPEAKER_01

All four.

SPEAKER_00

What a shock.

SPEAKER_01

So I heard in this most recent batch we get some information about her breakups, which is what I've been dying for.

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't say that that's what occurs. Oh, Jesus. People are making him out not of a molehill. She simply says, she simply acknowledges that she went through two breakups on the first leg of the tour. That is the extent of what she says.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my mother, I think God. I'm sorry. Taylor owes us this if she's gonna make a six-part documentary. Six parts, and you're not gonna put that anywhere.

SPEAKER_00

At least I've set your expectations.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks, I guess. You're welcome. Now you understand why I'm not in a huge rush to watch this. I mean, listen. You should still watch it. I mean, I know it's gonna be interesting, and everyone's talking about how real she is, but it's still her it's through her very controlled lens, just like everything else, just like the podcast, just like all these radio show interviews where she tells the same story 17 times. I still feel like we're not getting the real her. And I'm saying that having seen zero of the documentary so far, but that's just you know, I I still know what I know. Yeah, you can't unknow. Do you feel the same?

SPEAKER_00

I do, but I it just bothers me less, I think, than it bothers you, you know. Alright, all right.

SPEAKER_01

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. Yeah, sorry. What else happened in pop culture?

SPEAKER_00

Let's think of so many things. It's been we've had the craziest Hollywood story of like I can't remember the last time there's been a this crazy a Hollywood story. And but crazy you mean devastating and tragic, and also just just simply crazy. Like, I guess we were alive when OJ happened, but like we were not comprehending at that time.

SPEAKER_01

I wasn't alive because I was born in 2001. Okay. Sure, sure, sure. Anyway, I think it's horrific, and I just I still can't believe it happened.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's obviously it's horrific and tragic, and all of that is true.

SPEAKER_01

And I I just I feel like we there's still so many unanswered questions. Like, I want to know more about the son's mental state. Was it drugs? Was it just um mental illness? Was it probably a little mix of both?

SPEAKER_00

Or a case of both? In case anybody's living under a rock, we're talking about the murders of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle, allegedly by his son, Nick. And her son. Right, their son.

SPEAKER_01

So I want to know how he afforded this fancy schmancy lawyer.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure that there was some kind well, he's also worked on movies with his dad, so he must have gotten some kind of money from those.

SPEAKER_01

It could be with his own funds. Shocking to think that he might not have blown through it on drugs, but on he, you know, he might have the other thing I've heard from lawyers who are speculating is he's getting family support. Family is supporting him, and that's why they got him that lawyer. I don't know if it's his sister, I don't know if Why? I mean, it's their it's their brother. Like this is he literally stabbed his brother. I know, but he's he's very, very sick. He's a very sick individual. He's as sick as they get. I know, and it's it's it's really impossible for us to put ourselves in those shoes.

SPEAKER_00

I know, it really is.

SPEAKER_01

But I I can only imagine how conflicted they must feel knowing like at some point he's gonna understand the magnitude of what he did, even if it's not right now. Yeah, and when it hits him, I mean I can't even imagine. Like having to live with that for the rest of his life is gonna be a pretty big punishment in itself, in addition to life in pris. Yeah. Well, we'll find out. I'm sure, like I said, I'm sure we'll get, I mean, look at the Menendez brothers, we'll get the jailhouse interviews. Hopefully, and such. Ryan Murphy is probably just like how long before it, like, how long is like a respectful amount of time before I can butcher this story? No pun intended. I'm sorry, that was a bad choice of words.

SPEAKER_00

Or was it a great choice of words?

SPEAKER_01

No, bad. Speaking of Ryan Murphy, two weeks ago you told me that all's fair really brought a tear to your eye and made you feel emotion. Can you tell me which part? Because I watched the whole thing and it was a nightmare.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I'm sorry. I just was uh uh I just felt for Glenn Close's character when her husband passed. That's all.

SPEAKER_01

When she had his body in there for like a week?

SPEAKER_00

Before that part.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. What about at the end when she was taken away on like a 5150 hold or something?

SPEAKER_00

That was pretty nuts, and I was annoyed because I don't I didn't like that twist.

SPEAKER_01

I liked it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

And I I like Kim Kardashian as an actress. She she's gonna start on a movie coming up. I I forget pretty much all the details, but we have that to look forward to.

SPEAKER_00

When are we gonna stop having her be in things?

SPEAKER_01

I saw something very interesting literally right before we took to the mic that like she's all about criminal justice reform and stuff until ICE is involved, and then she's very quiet. Hmm. So like what just like how far will your fight for justice really go? Like it always it only goes so far, which kind of it only goes so far.

SPEAKER_00

So were you pleased with the the season as a whole?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'll I mean some of the dialogue, man, is just really, really brutal, but you know, I'll I'll give it another shot. Of course, I'm gonna be around for the second season.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the other big thing that happened in pop culture this week, and I was hoping you could give me more information on where we've netted out, is that allegedly Riley Keogh is the egg donor to John Travolta's kid.

SPEAKER_01

So Kelly Preston was pretty the late Kelly Preston Meci Rest, beautiful soul. She was like in her late 40s when she had this kid, Ben. So it stands to reason that her eggs could have been too old and she needed a donor. Um, and I know that the the that family was really good friends with the Travoltas, they're all but all into the Scientology, so there is that link. Um, these claims actually came from Priscilla's business partner. It's a very complicated lawsuit, but it's in that lawsuit that this information came to light. Her business partner alleges that um Lisa Marie's ex-husband told her all this. And he because he was like poor and worried about him and his children, and he was gonna like use this secret as leverage or something, um, and alluded to the fact that she got like$10,000 to$20,000 in a used jaguar.

SPEAKER_00

That's all she got from the Maltas.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, allegedly. And this is when she was allegedly when she was in her early 20s. And in the lawsuit, there are two pieces of evidence. I put in quotes. One is a text message that somebody allegedly sent to Priscilla that said a picture of Ben, the child in question. Look at your son, like, or look at your grandson, he's beautiful. Great-grandson, I guess it would be. Look at your great-grandson, he's beautiful. And the other one is a handwritten note with phrases scribbled on it, like 1990s Jaguar, and Kelly carried baby and Ben, whatever, Ben Travolta, like all these like scribbles of like notes about what happened. Now, I could tomorrow scribble notes like that. I don't know how they got taken into evidence. I mean, this is in the lawsuit that this woman filed, so some lawyer thought it was pertinent, but there's no information on who wrote this down, if this text message is real, if this note is real. The only thing that makes me think it might be true, as I told you yesterday, is it's such a specific tale. Like, how like how could this random ass, no offense to Lisa Murray's ex-husband, Michael Lockwood character, make up all these specifics? I mean, that would that I mean if he could if he weaved that tale, it's a good one. But we haven't heard anything from Riley, we haven't heard anything from John Travolta. Poor Ben now is at the center of this. Priscilla called the claims outrageous, but she didn't call them false. I guess outrageous is false.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I'm looking up a picture of little Ben right now.

SPEAKER_01

Well, he's 15, he's not so little anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the ones that are popping up are littler. And I mean, I I don't think it's far-fetched. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01

Like I said, I mean, looks-wise, I don't know. I mean, Kelly Preston, he looks like he could be Kelly Preston's for sure. I mean, uh the late their other kid, Ella, looks just like John. Their late son Jet looked just like John. This kid does not. I don't know what that means. But I just feel bad for him now. I mean, I feel like that family's been through enough. And this skank-ass bitch who suing Priscilla, why do you gotta drag the Travoltas into this? Yes, they're Scientologists, but my god, have they suffered some incredible losses? Like, leave them alone.

SPEAKER_00

What is this person hoping to get out of this?

SPEAKER_01

Money.

SPEAKER_00

For what?

SPEAKER_01

Something about how they went into business. She went into business with Priscilla and as accusing fraud and all this crap, and then Priscilla filed something against this woman, accusing her of elder abuse. Um, Priscilla's son is getting dragged into the lawsuit. Like, it's even too much for me to comprehend, honestly.

SPEAKER_00

Silly seems like a waste of time and resources.

SPEAKER_01

And like I said, even if it's true like that, that shouldn't be information that we should know unless they want it to be known. Like, I feel bad that I know that.

SPEAKER_00

If interesting though, I know it really is.

SPEAKER_01

I know here we are. Like, we shouldn't we shouldn't know that, but let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I'd like to hear more and I'd like to stay involved with any updates. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I'd like to think that we won't know anymore. We'll see. We'll see. We'll put a pin in that one.

SPEAKER_00

Anything else before we jump into Bravo?

SPEAKER_01

No, I want to talk about Salt Lake.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, you're just gonna start with Salt Lake?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I have to. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna be so I uh just every episode I watch, I think about how devastated I'm gonna be when the season is over. Like, truly, I feel like I might have to go back and rewatch it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Okay, well, what where would you like to begin?

SPEAKER_01

Well, the ladies are in Greece, which looks amazing. Stunning. Even Lisa by herself walking could appreciate the views.

SPEAKER_00

Just barely.

SPEAKER_01

I loved now. We missed talking about last week the the Cartier of it all.

SPEAKER_00

That was an excellent argument.

SPEAKER_01

Heather, so Lisa accused Angie, right, of copying her Cartier watch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So Heather, right then and there, finds a store that has Cartier watches and buys one.

SPEAKER_00

Duty free in the airport.

SPEAKER_01

And she buys one for Whitney. That is so gangster and impressive, and just everything that I want in a housewives moment.

SPEAKER_00

To look at them and go, it was only like six grand. I would like I what's it gonna take for me to get to that point in life?

SPEAKER_01

And I feel like Heather was not always at this point, like three seasons ago. I don't think Heather could have been able to do that.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not really sure. How's how long has Beauty Lab and Laser been successful?

SPEAKER_01

Like probably since season two or three.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, she lived in like a condo or something at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00

No, she lived in the house that she's in now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I thought she moved to a bigger house.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, anyway, I just loved that. Like, like, let's all shit on Lisa accusing, and it's just it was escalating so quickly at the dinner that they went to straight off the plane of like Angie's like, I was wearing mine in this Facebook picture from 2012. You can see my Cartier watch. And just I have I have four Porsches. Well, I have five. Yeah, it's and mine's a color that has never been seen yet in 2025.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, and then in the same breath, Lisa will be like, it's not a competition.

SPEAKER_01

But mine, my color hasn't been seen yet in this in the entire state. My the color of my Porsche. It's so crazy. This is everything we want in entertainment, period. It's light, it's not hurting anyone. We can turn our brain off and just be the most entertained.

SPEAKER_00

Like, but to pause on the current episode momentarily, we did also get news this week that um Bronwin and Todd have separated.

SPEAKER_01

I think that was last week, girl.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we didn't take to the mic last week, so is anyone shocked? No, that crusty, dusty, musty old man, and they didn't have a prenup. So she takes him to the cleaners.

SPEAKER_01

I hope he spreads his smelly gas all around town. And now hopefully no one else will hook up. Actually, you know what? I bet a lot of girls would still want to be with him for his money.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he'll never not sign a prenup again, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01

You just have to plug your nose. Okay, so back to this episode. We had um split activities, the cooking class and donkey riding. The split activity, I know why they have to do it because they're trying to create these different dynamics, but why is it always a cooking class?

SPEAKER_00

And why there's a larger thing with an overarching theme with this episode in this season so far, and that is what is happening in Meredith's life, really?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, if you ask Whitney, it's substance abuse issues.

SPEAKER_00

Well, did you see on the bus ride back the jaw movement? No, you need to go back and watch the clip.

SPEAKER_01

What was it?

SPEAKER_00

When she's like half asleep, she's like, Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, when she was talking about um about going number one and number two.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

But why would she still be doing this when like look at the trouble it got her into on camera or on the flight before?

SPEAKER_00

I have a sneaking suspicion she won't be returning next season.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's just my gut. Oh my gosh, when she was crying into that old chef's bosom, like, and he was trying to comfort her, saying, like, the wine makes us happy. And she's like, that was my only chance to talk to Brooks, and I I'm not gonna get to talk to him on Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_00

She has like three other kids, so that's she has one other kid, Brooks and Chloe. She has one other son, remember, from the bot mitzvah, who doesn't choose to be on camera.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, the hot one.

SPEAKER_00

So it's just like, why is Brooks the only one you want to talk to? Also, I love every other mom on this trip being like, This is a dream scenario for Mother's Day. Get over yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Like I know, but then did you hear Brittany? Well, I didn't get to talk to my kids for three years.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah, that's because yikes. That's because you're a terrible person. Yeah, that's your actions, girl. But it's just like, and and Brooks is also like. A 22-year-old adult. So if you talk to him tomorrow, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe he can get Wi-Fi on the plane and shoot you a text. Happy Mom's Day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like you said, it's something bigger going on. Like, and they even said, like, this is not about not getting to talk to your kids.

SPEAKER_00

I will say she looked incredible in the bathing suit. No, the tank top mini skirt, like shoulder wrap combo. I just like loved it.

SPEAKER_01

When she was roaming around on the cobblestones, I was just like with no direction.

SPEAKER_00

She just always damn it if she doesn't look great.

SPEAKER_01

I thought a bathing suit reveal was amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you know what? I loved the when you know what? If there's ever drama or fighting, the solution is always to get those girls to a pool. Get thee to a pool. There is like nothing that some pool time girl talk can't solve. Like, I don't care how old you are. Being in a pool brings people together.

SPEAKER_00

Get thee to a pool.

SPEAKER_01

Get thee to a pool. I mean, yeah, when all else fails.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What about the this was another little petty argument that I quite enjoyed. The high body count hair trademark situation. Brittany, who was accused of having high body count hair, trademarked the phrase, even though Angie is the one who said it.

SPEAKER_00

I do think it's tacky as hell and it reeks of desperation and brokenness. But also, if you snooze, you lose.

SPEAKER_01

I mean that's Brittany in a nutshell. And she is there's no shame in her game. And she straight up said that if you snooze, you lose.

SPEAKER_00

So I felt like it was right on brand. I thought Angie looked great in that butterfly top.

SPEAKER_01

But the skirt.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't mind it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I didn't like the skirt with the top.

SPEAKER_00

But Bronwin's outfit, everybody else, I was like, what are we all wearing here? Oh, how Winnie was wearing that red outfit. Red is not Whitney's color. Her color is green. It's other things, but not that red.

SPEAKER_01

Her green confessional look. It was incredible.

SPEAKER_00

Heather looks great in a lavender.

SPEAKER_01

She does. She looks great in a lot of things. You can tell how rich she is now because of how good she looks.

SPEAKER_00

Another solid episode, I would say.

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Man.

SPEAKER_01

Just I this whole season there hasn't been a dud. There has not been one episode that I thought was bad.

SPEAKER_00

You know what? Where everything is a dud?

SPEAKER_01

Are you gonna say Potomac?

SPEAKER_00

I am.

SPEAKER_01

Let's just sandwich that in real quick.

SPEAKER_00

This episode was slightly interesting because it became abundantly clear to me that Angel booked an Airbnb for the what she thought was the duration of filming and got the dates wrong and then got booted.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And that's hilarious to me.

SPEAKER_01

That's the only thing that stands out to me in there in this entire friggin' show. Yeah, that's because that's pretty much it. But then next week they're going to Colorado, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because that's where she has been sent.

SPEAKER_01

So did the producers have to scramble to make this cast trip happen in Colorado because that's the only place Angel could film?

SPEAKER_00

Possibly.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I don't think she'll be joining us next season either. I think Potomac needs a serious overhaul.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think if Karen is back next season, we might be. If Karen is back and Monique has a bigger role again, I think we might be in an okay place.

SPEAKER_01

Which I don't know, Karen.

SPEAKER_00

Other than you would love Karen.

SPEAKER_01

Other than her I'm lit body cam video.

SPEAKER_00

You would love Karen.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, well then I'll remain optimistic for that. In the meantime, did you see Wendy Oseppo and her husband were found with 67 debit and credit cards? 67.

SPEAKER_00

How do you even get approved for that many?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know because I remember that time I was like shopping for a new credit card, and I was like applying, I was like, I'll just apply to several and see like which one gives me the best deal. Can't do that, actually. That hurts your credit. And I learned the hard way.

SPEAKER_00

Surprise, surprise.

SPEAKER_01

That takes your credit. Um, luckily, your credit is like so so fluid, it was back up, you know, within a matter of months. But credit scores are resilient, you know. They are. They're they're they're inspiring in their resiliency.

SPEAKER_00

I get alerts that it's going up and down, and I'm like always in the green, though.

SPEAKER_01

Always in the green, baby. Oh, I'm always above 800. Thank you. Me too. Thank you very much. Always above 800. I wasn't trying to brag, but if you're gonna go there, I'll go there. That's really all I feel about Potomac. But we are getting some good stuff on Beverly Hills. Last week, when we weren't here, when we did not take to the mic, we pretty much got the entire story of her relationship with Morgan Wade, which is huge.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's unfortunate that it took her this long to just like admit what we already knew.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, yes, and it seems like she didn't admit it because she was clearly in love with this woman who didn't want her to talk about it, and she wanted to respect the person she loved wishes. Now that the relationship is over, she can talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

I just think that's bullshit because Morgan isn't a public figure.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, Morgan Wade is a country singer, and more good any press is good press when you're barely a country singer. Like so, what's her problem? Why you put her in a music video with you? Here's what happened. Okay, here's what happened. Morgan and Kyle had a relationship, and Kyle thought it was exciting and new because she's with been with this man for this long and she fell hard. And Morgan thought it was also exciting to be with this older woman, like teaching her the ways of being with a woman. And then Morgan thought, you know, this isn't gonna be a long-term thing for me. Like, this woman is 20 years older than me. Like, I'm not gonna like have kids with this woman and have a like, where what would my future with this woman look like? So she wanted to break up with her, but she didn't want to do it in a callous way, so she used the show as an excuse to break up with Kyle.

SPEAKER_00

That's a very good theory.

SPEAKER_01

I know. I like it because otherwise, like like blaming the show is bullshit, like you said, they were on the show together, like Morgan went on the show several, several times exactly. So, I mean, but to hear Kyle say how in love she was and stuff, like I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Very, and it made me feel sad for her, me too. It seems like she got dumped, and that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01

Totally, and everyone's asking her if she's dating and she can't talk about this heartbreak that she had to go through, she had to go through it so privately, and that like you said, it makes me sad. Poor Kyle.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I think we're getting a lot of good stuff elsewhere, though. Like, I am interested in what's going on with Rachel, I'm interested in the Dorite of it all. When they had that conversation this week with um the money queen who gave no real money advice at all.

SPEAKER_01

Money advice when when Dorite is faced with no retirement and you know, having to pay all the bills because her husband won't. The m the quote unquote money queen's advice is just find out who you want to be.

SPEAKER_00

Bitch, I want to be rich. Tell me how dying. But like the fact that she doesn't know if there's any retirement accounts is this is 2025. You are a woman of the world.

SPEAKER_01

She's never had to worry about things like that. She can tell you about every city she's been to and speaks several languages, but money is an area where she's obviously very ignorant.

SPEAKER_00

It's just like so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Because she's had the luxury of being ignorant.

SPEAKER_00

I can't imagine being in that position. Even if I was married to someone with a lot of money, I feel like I would need to know what we're working with.

SPEAKER_01

But that's because we are already in our 30s and we don't have money, and we like we need to be aware of that.

SPEAKER_00

So does she?

SPEAKER_01

Like, we needed to be aware of that from a young age. Did she grow up wealthy? I'm not sure. Probably. She gives that she gives that.

SPEAKER_00

So that's very interesting.

SPEAKER_01

The ladies did their little dating um matchmaking uh situation where they all were black. I like Dorite's outfit. I did too.

SPEAKER_00

I thought she was like the most participatory.

SPEAKER_01

Is that why she's great, she's got a great game. Yeah. And she's beautiful. So Erica was a flop.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she's dating a man.

SPEAKER_01

Is that why she didn't participate?

SPEAKER_00

I'm not sure when that began. She said on Watch What Happens Live, they've been together for six months now.

SPEAKER_01

So yes, I think, and she said that her alter ego is like flirty and sexy, but she's not. And I can't imagine a part of me being different, that different, you know.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no parts of me are flirty and have game.

SPEAKER_01

Something else I thought was sad going back to Kyle, is she was talking about her daughter's engagement and just crying, thinking about like talking about how she's scared that what happened to her and Mo could happen to her daughter who's getting married, and she just cried and said, I hope that Jake always looks at Alexia the way he looks at her today. And that was just like gut-runching to me because it's true. It's like some couples, it's like, oh, I love her more than I did the day I met her, you know. And some couples they just fall out of love, and it's just like it's a crapshoe, and I just feel for Kyle being this fearful. It is. I'm sorry, it's a crapshoe.

SPEAKER_00

It's not a failure, though. Like their marriage was long, they're good parents, they still seem very friendly, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but there's obviously pain there because he basically fell out of love with her. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_00

I think she fell out of love with him. I I heard an interesting thing on a different podcast that that was um a theory that he like has been cheating on the DL for years and years and years.

SPEAKER_01

Um so I don't know we've heard rumblings for years and years and years.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I don't know what could have happened to make it so now is the moment where she can't take it anymore, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder if it's because she met Morgan Wade.

SPEAKER_00

It's possible. Did you have any other thoughts on Bee Hills?

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm excited for next week. They're gonna go to Colorado, Arizona, Sedona in Arizona? I don't know. I honestly couldn't tell you. But I think that's where Jennifer Tilly and Sutton get into a fight, which will be interesting. I love anytime Jennifer Tilly's around, it just needs a little fun flair. Did you watch Vanderpump? No, and I'm probably not going to. Is it getting is it good? Is it better? Is it fun? Like, do you still recommend it now that we're three episodes in?

SPEAKER_00

I do. It's 20-year-olds screaming at each other at a rooftop pool.

SPEAKER_01

And but I just haven't been there, done that. Like, we already got the original version of that. I don't want the knockoff version of that.

SPEAKER_00

I'll take the knockoff version of that. I'm just like not greedy, you know. Like, I just take what I'm given. And I I'm not greedy either. I want to leave it where it is. I wasn't asking for more. I'll just be I'm just grateful to have another thing to watch. And also Southern Charm. Um, for those who watch it, I saw a quote or something on TikTok that was like the theme of the theme song of this show should be Man Child by Sabrina Carpenter, and nothing could be more accurate. Because you got Shep and Craig and it's not even Shep this season, it's just Craig and Austin. But I mean, Craig is like really spiraling post-breakup with Paige, he's just like unwell. Um, and Austin's very sensitive, so they just keep fighting, and I really enjoy watching it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm glad you're having fun over there with those Republicans. Thank you. Um, have you been watching Pluribus? Are you caught up?

SPEAKER_00

No, I haven't. I have yet to fix the login situation to your Apple account.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, I'm one episode behind, and I gotta say, Vince Gilligan is gonna do what he's gonna do. Like, he works on his own timeline and no one else's. You know, like some episodes you're you're not gonna get much, you know, plot development.

SPEAKER_00

But it's still worth continuing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, of course. He's gonna give you what he wants to give you. You get what you get and you don't get upset. Yep. So, but yeah, I mean, like my boyfriend was like, I still think it's great, like even when the plot's not moving forward. And I'm like, you know, he doesn't seem to mind that. No, because he under he appreciates like the art of it all, you know, which I I do to an extent. I think you get one episode like that a season where nothing really happens and it's just kind of self-indulgent, unless you're the bear.

SPEAKER_00

In which case it's one too many.

SPEAKER_01

The bear, that was every episode. The plot did not go forward at all last season. I will never watch that show again.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't even watch last season.

SPEAKER_01

It ruined, it ruined its legacy. Like it's gonna go down like Rudy Giuliani was a hero, and then now he's gonna go down as a villain. The bear is gonna go down as a villain.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

When it was like an Emmy winning, the first two seasons were so inventive and fresh and exciting.

SPEAKER_00

And nosedive. Shall we go to the learning channel?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think there's much happening over there, is there? Disagree.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Enlighten me.

SPEAKER_00

So on toe.

SPEAKER_01

The other way. Jenny can't count. Jenny, I have some thoughts about Jenny that I can't see on the mic, but I did text you about them.

SPEAKER_00

We're not we're just not sure about her level of intelligence.

SPEAKER_01

Something, yeah, I don't think she ever had all her marbles, honestly.

SPEAKER_00

Because what is so funny to me is she's like, I don't understand the money here, but Summit's point in the talking head of like it's very basic math. It doesn't matter what the currency is, it's so accurate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's basically like 90 minus 50 is 40. Like, yeah, who cares if it's you know pounds, rubies, rubles, whatever they are. She's just like not all there. She's not all there. That's the best way to say it.

SPEAKER_00

And it's it's funny to watch her. And then um Madeleine was really making me laugh this episode because she was saying a lot of things that like I would feel like, are we there yet? These mosquitoes are already killing me. I don't want to walk. I just like related to those things. And if she is pregnant, I will I I'll do nothing. I'll just keep watching. But they are much for me. If she's pregnant, they're the dumbest people on the planet.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they are they're you know, I don't think I don't foresee this going any way that's good.

SPEAKER_00

What do you think about Matthew's dad potentially having a conversation with Greta about that breakup?

SPEAKER_01

Oof, okay. So, first of all, I don't think Greta gave it enough chance. She gave it like three or four days.

SPEAKER_00

No, I I was shocked. I thought she'd been there for like six months when she made that decision.

SPEAKER_01

Like, obviously, she's not gonna feel the same connection to him she did before. Like, she hasn't seen him in a long time. Like, you gotta give it like a good month.

SPEAKER_00

When she said that, I was like, Oh, my feelings are totally different about this. You're just like homesick, anxiety, you need a minute.

SPEAKER_01

That being said, I would rather die than involve my parents in my relationship at that level.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think having the dad have a talk with her is like a little bit inappropriate.

SPEAKER_01

So inappropriate. Like, I if if that were me and I if I were her, I would respectfully decline.

SPEAKER_00

But I do feel sad because like the dad sees his son in pain, wants to help, and that poor guy just is like willing to do anything to fix it. So I have a lot of I don't know if sympathy or empathy is the right word for this situation, but I just like I totally get why he just is so desperate to have anything. He's running to his daddy to help him situation. But it's just not appropriate.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's like an yeah, it's a boundary that you don't cross.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What about okay? So this was two episodes ago, but we didn't get to talk about it. The Tasmanian man and his yeah elder girlfriend and her his crazy mom. Like, I think it's just icky how much he talks to her. Like he thinks it's normal. He taught that they talk multiple times a day or whatever. It's icky to me.

SPEAKER_00

It is odd.

SPEAKER_01

He's a grown-ass man. And she's stuck between a rock and a hard place because she gave up everything she has. She doesn't have the funds to move back. Like, if this doesn't work out, she's gonna be homeless on the street.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's very strange. I think it's very bold of her to have said all of the things directly to the mom's face. I know. I could never I could never. I would just like I would just let it happen and just seethe silently inside.

SPEAKER_01

I would call my mom and be like, Can you talk to her? Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00

I'd call my mom five times a day and be like, I gotta bitch about this again.

SPEAKER_01

No, let's have the moms talk to each other and sort this out.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think Patiya's mom is with us any longer.

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit. Sorry, Pattia. Sorry for your loss. R.I.P. Mm-hmm. Otherwise, I mean Well, are you watching before the 90 days? No. You gotta catch up. I knew you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00

You have to. There's some really, really good characters this season.

SPEAKER_01

Every time you tell me that, it's never that good.

SPEAKER_00

Nothing is ever as good as you tell me it is. It is because we've never met any of these people before. There's one woman from LA named Emma who thinks she's a Kardashian and wears a horrible wig, and she's so fun to watch. But primarily I need you to watch because I know you would have thoughts and feelings about this man named Rick.

SPEAKER_01

What about him?

SPEAKER_00

Who's also from Los Angeles. He's a tap instructor, he's an Uber Uber driver. He's selling he sells um fake hair to women. Extensions. Yeah. Weaves, sewings, weaves, weaves. He's got like five kids from different baby mamas, but he's got the most jolly face of anyone I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01

Am I gonna feel bad for him?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no. What's this? What's the woman he's beforeing the other way?

SPEAKER_00

Trish. She's a lot younger than him. She's from Madagascar. And this man could not pronounce the town in Madagascar that she's from. And I thought to myself, you know, who monst? I probably couldn't either. So, and then there's this other interesting couple of this guy who's autistic, and his mom, he's dating a woman from the Philippines.

SPEAKER_01

I saw the them on the commercial, how she set up cameras in his house and watched his every move.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but the mom took her son to a sex shop to buy lingerie for his betrothed.

SPEAKER_01

That's even worse than the Tasmanian one. It's what is with all the boundary crossing here?

SPEAKER_00

This mom is nuts. You got it, you got it.

SPEAKER_01

It was close for the girl to wear.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. You simply must catch up.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, that's a that's a sell. That's enough. I will I will jump on.

SPEAKER_00

There's probably more that I'm missing. There is, oh, yes. Because also, there's this other couple of this girl who is with some guy, I forget where he's from. Like uh um, I think he's from like a Middle Eastern country. I'm not sure which one, but his name is Beer Can. And it's probably Burk Burkhan, I can't remember, but it's Beer can. And she has a best friend who she does everything with all the time. That's a dude. All the they are like inseparable. And if they had sex, they'd be married. And so is he gay? No. But and I think he like, I think, I think it's truly one of those situations that you only see in rom-coms where he's like realizing his feelings for her as she's with somebody else.

SPEAKER_01

Like when Harry met Sally.

SPEAKER_00

You've gotta watch this season.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, okay. I'm I'm convinced. I'm I'm upset. I've got a plane ride coming up. I'll I'll download the apps. What am I gonna watch on the plane? You have a much you have a little bit longer one than me.

SPEAKER_00

What am I gonna watch? This is what I get for catching up on everything.

SPEAKER_01

I know. I don't know how you have time for it. I'm trying to think if there's anything that I watch that you haven't that is.

SPEAKER_00

I could try to get Pluribus on my phone, but I think my husband wants to watch it.

SPEAKER_01

What about your iPad?

SPEAKER_00

That's what I meant. I'm sorry I forgot that I have that because I haven't flown in a while.

SPEAKER_01

We literally got you that iPad so that you wouldn't be watching quality television on your phone.

SPEAKER_00

Then I will bring it on the plane. But do you know what else it's great for?

SPEAKER_01

I need like a sellers of platoon.

SPEAKER_00

I need like a stand for my kitchen because I can pull up a recipe and have it up in my kitchen.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, I'm so glad you found even another use. But I need a stand to accomplish. That's worth its weight in gold. I kind of want to stand just to like set it on the tray of the airplane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that would well my case acts as a stand for that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

But it but not vertically. Like that's only if I'm watching them horizontally. Oh, I need to stand vertically.

SPEAKER_01

So well, can't you look at your recipe horizontally?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I can see more if it's vertical. I can scroll less. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So when are you gonna when are you gonna watch the Taylor documentary?

SPEAKER_01

Can I first, because we're still in 90 Day Land, that 90 Day Diaries has returned and Natalie got a nose job.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, let me get let me get eyes on this.

SPEAKER_01

And she had to decide if she wanted a dolly nose that kind of like went oop a little bit like a little bit of fun or like a more regal nose of like just regular. And I think she uh chose maybe a mix of both, I can't remember. Honestly, I didn't think it was that earth-shattering. Did you?

SPEAKER_00

She looks great.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

I think it looks way better.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, then the nose was she says that she has been called witchy for her nose.

SPEAKER_00

I can see that.

SPEAKER_01

And she tells her mom about the nose job, and her mom, I mean, talk about witchy. Like she clearly got it from her mom. I mean, her mom's nose is like the definition. Oh, you're right. Honestly, looking at pictures now, I think she looks great.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she does. Too bad she's so nuts. Uh nose job can't fix nuts.

SPEAKER_01

No, absolutely not. Um, otherwise, I mean, I we're gonna get on 90 Day Diaries, you know, the couple, the bee, the beekeepers, where that could only communicate through a translator. We're gonna get an update on them. Well, I'm gonna let you know because that is a show I'm watching that you don't watch.

SPEAKER_00

I'm certain he's learned more English by now.

SPEAKER_01

I cannot wait to find out. I feel like we haven't seen them in so long. Like it brought a little joy to my heart, like a little flutter to see them again.

SPEAKER_02

They were very sweet.

SPEAKER_01

90-day diaries, I think you're sleeping on that. Maybe I'll watch that. Yeah. Maybe. Oh, that's a good idea, actually. I'll let you know if I come across anything else. I'd like to watch The Taylor Dock this weekend, all four episodes with my boyfriend. We still have another episode of Pluribus to watch this weekend. We're gonna watch Christmas Vacation this weekend. I'd like to watch Dead Knives Out, Dead Man. Oh something.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I want to watch that too.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I'd like to go see the housemaid. You know, I'd like to if I had my way, we would just be on looking at a screen the entire weekend. But something tells me that that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00

Why? Do you have other plans?

SPEAKER_01

I just know you know he's gonna cook something up.

SPEAKER_00

Is there more to do in the kitchen at this time?

SPEAKER_01

Um, a little bit. Yeah, we're gonna put like the the the hardware, like the poles.

SPEAKER_00

Nice.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and he just said already that there's a lot of cleaning to do.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, fun.

SPEAKER_01

I know. So I'm always gonna put my ass to work, but hopefully we can take enough breaks to at least, I think, prioritize the Taylor Duck. I also wanted to see this movie called Eternity with Elizabeth Olson and um uh Miles Teller and Callum. Oh my god, why don't I know his name? Do Alipa's fiance, Callum? I don't know his name. Are you serious? Mm-hmm. He's like kind of cute. I had a dream of a romantic dream about him. But Callum, whatever his last name is. Actually, it was a mis mishmash of him and the guy from Challengers, who's also British, who's not really hot at all, but in my dream he was. Interesting. You don't know who I'm talking about at all.

SPEAKER_00

I do, I just don't know his name.

SPEAKER_01

Callum Turner.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

He's pretty cute at times.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's fine.

SPEAKER_01

And then the other one that I like Josh O'Connor, that's his name. So this guy is not cute. I can't believe I had a dream about him, but well, you can't really control these things.

SPEAKER_00

I had one once about Joel McHale. And I woke up and was like, what? Are you watching the bear or something? The bear? Yeah, he's in the bear. Is he? Yeah, I really only see him on Saturday Night Live at Is it Cake. Sorry, not Joel McHale, Mikey Day. Even worse, even worse. What it's worse. Is it cake?

SPEAKER_01

Is it cake? He's like a little spray.

SPEAKER_00

We put is it cake on to fall asleep a lot.

SPEAKER_01

I've never seen it before. I was at your house. He's like a dainty little elf-like creature.

SPEAKER_00

I know. And so then afterwards, it's like, does he even have like a lady? So I had to look at his Instagram and he does. And were you jealous that it wasn't you? No, no, no, no, no. You know, you can't control these things. I know.

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes I wake up and I'm just like, whoa.

SPEAKER_00

That was not expected nor intended, nor do I want to revisit that one. Like, I just, you know. I'm like also really hung up on the fact that you confused Joel McHale and Mikey Day, who are nothing alike. They're a little alike. They're both blonde.

SPEAKER_01

One is like little, one is tall. I think Mikey Day is tall. He he I imagine him as, like I said, a little elf creature. Like a little sprite, like a little fairy. Not in a that was not in an offensive way. I meant like an actual.

SPEAKER_00

Mikey Day is 5'10.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right. Okay, so that means like 5'8.

SPEAKER_00

Joel McHale is 6'4.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

They're very different creatures. Whatever. They have a similar similar vibe to me, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, sure.

SPEAKER_00

On that note, are you gonna rot this weekend? Um, tomorrow, we're probably gonna like rot all day because we are still we're in an oven saga. We didn't talk about this last week because we weren't here, but I spent a whole day waiting for an oven. You know how it is when you have things to fix, like our oven is broken, and they tell you they'll be here between eight and five. And it's like, we have a life. So yesterday I was sitting around waiting for him to come, never showed. And then when we called today, they're like, No, they came at one. And I'm like, I was sitting downstairs in the office at 1 p.m. working away. I would know if somebody knocked on my door. I was literally waiting for them. Kept calling the previous tenant, so like didn't even give us a heads up when they were coming. It's been like a horrible thing. So finally they're gonna come tomorrow. So we have to sit around from eight to five and wait for the oven guy to come.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my freaking god.

SPEAKER_00

But it's okay because we have a lot to do. The basement's like full of baby stuff. We need to start organizing. I need to get thank you notes out. And then Sunday, we're having like a little Christmas brunch at my in-laws because we're leaving on Monday for Christmas in our parents' house.

SPEAKER_01

So is everyone gonna be there? Even like extended family, nieces, nephew. No. Well, that's delightful. Are you gonna bring something? And if if you can't bake, what can you bring?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I don't think I haven't been tasked. We should ask, actually. I didn't ask if we could bring anything, but we did get my in-laws a present.

SPEAKER_01

So what is it?

SPEAKER_00

I guess they don't listen to this. There'd be no way of them knowing. Um, we got them a cooking class that they can choose. It's in their town, and they there's like several different themes they can pick. Like they have a lot of different options, so how lovely. They like to do that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01

So oh my god, can you imagine if we got that for our dad? He'd be like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_00

He'd be so offended.

SPEAKER_01

They have have they ever liked a present we've gotten them?

SPEAKER_00

No, and I'm wondering, because now you know what I got them this year. Do you think they will like it?

SPEAKER_01

I do. I actually do.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it's it's more simple.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like maybe we were thinking too big. We've been we've thought too big in the past.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe this will be the first time that I get it right.

SPEAKER_01

I think so. Usually, yeah, I don't want to say anymore, but I think that it'll be good. I think they're gonna like what I got them too, but it's gonna be late. It's not gonna come by Christmas. So, oops.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I hope that you get to rot around all your cleaning. If they'll finally like our presents. I wish that your boyfriend was coming to Seattle for Christmas.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, don't get me started. I'm so sad.

SPEAKER_00

He can just call in sick and come.

SPEAKER_01

I got him one extra present that I hid at the back of the tree, so he has something to open on Christmas morning. How many presents did you get him? Two pairs of jeans, and now this is a pair of slippers.

SPEAKER_00

Me and my husband already did our presents as well. And I mean, we both knew exactly what we were getting each other. And it went very well. Well what were they? Jesus! I got him a new hockey bag because he had bought a reused one. Yeah, but he had bought a previously owned one that was just falling apart at the seams. Like it's a miracle it held anything at all.

SPEAKER_01

He loves to bought and use stuff, he's very cheap at times.

SPEAKER_00

And so I bought him a brand new hockey bag.

SPEAKER_01

Um how many shekels did that set your back?

SPEAKER_00

Enough. And a shirt from the brand, the hockey brand that the bag came from.

SPEAKER_01

Like to wear under his jurs?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's just like a shirt, like a long-sleeve shirt, but he liked it, so I threw it in the cart and checked out. And what did you get? I got a pair of gold huggies, they're called.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, I already knew what both of you got. I just remembered. He already told me.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure he did. He couldn't wait to tell everyone. He wanted to give it to me the second he came home with it.

SPEAKER_01

This is Did you know what it was?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because I so I had a pair of little gold earrings that I wore like every day, but they were super cheap. So they were like tarnished, like they were kind of turning silver and they looked like shit. Exactly what he told me. Continue. I never shell out on my own jewelry. I don't own my wedding ring, my engagement ring, the earrings I wore for my wedding, and then the diamond earrings from grandma are like the only nice things I own. So I was telling him, like, gosh, one day I really just need to like get a pair of true gold earrings, and I love a set in rose gold and silver as well, so I can like, you know, change out my jewelry. Um, so he started with a gold pair and it looks like beautiful gold hoops, and I couldn't wear them. I had to pretend I didn't even like them. I don't have to pretend I don't like them. I love them. They're pretty much exactly like the ones that I used to wear every single day that are ruined.

SPEAKER_01

But and he picked them out himself with no guidance?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he well, I had he had seen and had a picture of the ones that I was trying to replace. Um, and he went to like a lot of places, I guess, to try to find them.

SPEAKER_01

So I love them. He doesn't know about online shopping, which is nice.

SPEAKER_00

He does, he's just not he likes he'd rather do it in person and he likes to barter for a good deal, you know. Yeah. So but I cannot complain. Can't complain.

SPEAKER_01

I got some new earrings that I love and that you're wearing right now because you love them so much. Oh wait.

SPEAKER_00

I'm in so this is my new. I don't know that I'm ever going back to an office until maybe October, September of next year.

SPEAKER_01

So that means you can give birth to the baby and have its first months here in in LA is what you're telling me. Not flying with a newborn, you nuts. Fly now.

SPEAKER_00

But we can probably take him to LA at some point during my maternity leave for sure. I don't see why not.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? When am I gonna learn to never listen to someone who hasn't had the experience yet? Like, how many promises are you gonna break before my heart shatters and turns to stone?

SPEAKER_00

I'll have to talk to some of my friends who I know have traveled with babies um and see when the sweet spot would be to do that.

SPEAKER_01

You already missed our Christmas party when you said that you would come even if you were pregnant. Let's just remember that's one. That's strike one.

SPEAKER_00

You'll get past it. Clearly, I still haven't. The point is, I have six months off, so I'm I'm certain there will be a time in there where I can get to No, you can fly until 36 weeks.

SPEAKER_01

After Christmas, you'll be 32 weeks, 33, 34.

SPEAKER_00

I technically, though, have a high-risk pregnancy now, so I have to be careful.

SPEAKER_01

So carefully fly your ass here and give birth at Cedar Sinai.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not doing that. Why? Because my house with all of my things for him are here.

SPEAKER_01

Things can be replaced. What did the cavemen do when they had to cave women had to give birth and they didn't have things? You think mom had things? Just ask her. She'll tell you about all the things that you have that she didn't have.

SPEAKER_00

She didn't need things. Oh my god. Funny anecdote from the baby shower. I think you caught this. My husband's grandma is so cute and sweet, and she wanted to see every present we opened in great detail, and pretty much every single thing we opened, she would say, No, what is that? Every time. And at one point, I opened uh not a boppy, but like a like a like a nursing pillow. And she goes, and and no, what is that? And I said, It's a nursing pillow. And she goes, What is a nursing pillow? And my husband's aunt goes, You remember breastfeeding? It was like every single thing, it was so sweet. And and my husband goes, you know, she probably didn't have half of any of this stuff when she was having kids. And I was like, of course not. Her baby on a regular pillow, and why can't you? Because we've made things, we've found a way to make things easier for ourselves, so why wouldn't we?

SPEAKER_01

I remember like you you were looking at the nail trimmer, and and um, I think you got it from somebody. We did get it, yeah. And I saw that it was purchased, and I remember mom in the store was like, you just trim their nails with nail clippers.

SPEAKER_00

Like, what the f and and yet one of our friends who has a baby swears by that thing. So, yes.

SPEAKER_01

There's another one in the store too. I'm trying to remember. It was something for bath time, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Is it the thing that well we got the thing that well from one of our friends that you it's a pad for the floor and the bathtub, so like your knees and elbows have a padding, you know? That wasn't it, but yeah, that's that's pretty cool. Was it the ducky thermometer for the water temperature? Yes, I think that was it. Okay, well, when we went to our keep your newborn in alive class this week, they were very particular about the temperature bath water should be at, and now I won't have to worry because I'll know exactly what temperature it's at thanks to my ducky thermometer. You're right. You know what?

SPEAKER_01

If we can make things easier for ourselves, and by we I mean parents, you can like yeah, why the hell not? Yeah just because they didn't have it. I mean, in Caveman days, like we said, they didn't have freaking high chairs, and it was probably a bitch to have to feed your kid. And what percentage of those kids died? I mean, Jesus, I don't think that the baby would die if you didn't have the ducky thermometer. I mean, we did live.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just saying, I think that the older generation is just hating that we've found a way to make things easier that they didn't get to have. Yeah, which you know, I would I would be jealous too. And I'm not going crazy. I didn't get the outlet sock.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I totally would if I were a parent. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

I know you would, but I don't I didn't I didn't get the name.

SPEAKER_01

Wasn't that on your list?

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No.

SPEAKER_01

What about it's some sort of baby monitor? Wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, we got the nanit, which is the baby cam, but it also like from the camera can measure their like breathing and stuff, but it's not a wearable.

SPEAKER_01

And you're getting the life back, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I gotta buy that still. And we're taking an infant C PR class in January, so incredible. You know, we're doing our best over here.

SPEAKER_01

That's all anyone can do. And I look forward to seeing that baby in three to four months. On that note, blah blah blah. I'll see you in like two days.

SPEAKER_00

I know I can't the time is I need to pack this week.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I saw you last week, and I we thought, oh, I'll see you in like a you know a week from today, whatever. Like this week, I just feel like I blacked out and barreled through it. Like me running through a wall like the Kool-Aid man.

SPEAKER_00

Like, me too. And my company shuts down for two weeks starting like Monday. So every single slack or email I got this week, I was just like, it infuriated me. I'm like, This week was still a work week, but like what realistically, what in the fuck are we gonna accomplish this week before we all check out for two weeks?

SPEAKER_01

You have a whole week. There's so much you can accomplish. Jesus Christ. No. No. The week before the week off should also be like a semi-vacation.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Or at least like a tie. Don't ask me for anything new. Why? You have a week to do it because that's not how things work in my industry. Most projects I get assigned are like not a week project.

SPEAKER_01

We could at least make a week's worth of headway on it.

SPEAKER_00

Or not.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for running with us, everyone. Thanks for running with us. We'll try to record from Seattle so that we can let's just give everyone our exact address.

SPEAKER_01

Let's just give our 11 followers our exact address while we're at it.

SPEAKER_00

We're not even going to the exact town of Seattle.

SPEAKER_01

So let's just tell them we're not gonna be home so they can rob us like Sutton's track.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, thanks for running with us. See you next week. Bye, everybody.