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30 - RHOSLC, 90 Day Before the 90 Days, and 90 Day TOW, Stranger Things

Lil and Madelyn Season 1 Episode 30

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Another week of minimal shows from Bravo, how dare they?! But that won't stop Lil and Madelyn from getting into what we did get, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and the shock that was finding out next week is the finale, a day we've all been dreading. The gals also get into the finale of Stranger Things, 90 Day Fiance Before The 90 Days, and 90 Day Fiance The Other Way. All that plus peeing dogs in the house, false alarm hospital trips, and dissecting the cast of The Traitors! 

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Rather Be Running. We're the two sisters who should really be doing something more productive that is like all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos. Because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.

SPEAKER_02

Hi Lil. Hi, Madeline. So for the second time in however many months we've been recording this podcast, you have taken to the mic straight after a trip to the hospital. I guess I just like love going to the hospital. Your dedication is. What? I'm back. I'm sorry, my dog uh pissed herself on the floor just now. So um I didn't mean to interrupt your hospital story.

SPEAKER_01

But you know, I'm sorry, it's not funny, but like you do need to get her some doggy diapers, I feel. Because maybe, like, maybe she's just getting too old to hold it for more than three hours.

SPEAKER_02

I don't, dude. Some we'll have to figure this out off the mic. Let's get back to you in the hospital.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, great. Well, it wasn't the hospital.

SPEAKER_02

It wasn't. I'm at the hospital.

SPEAKER_01

It was a hospital. It was not an emergency room.

SPEAKER_02

No, I was in labor and delivery. In case they had to induce? Yeah. Did they think they might have to? Well, first I called the OB's office because everything you hear online at the doctor, the stupid kick counter app that I have constantly reminds me: if you noticed a change in your child's movement pattern, call immediately.

SPEAKER_01

So they said, okay, go to labor and delivery. So my baby is very active all day, every day.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and especially on days when I'm kind of just like sitting around. And today was one of those days, and he was not having a soccer match at all. So I, you know, thought, this is this is it. This is what they tell you to to do. So I'm gonna call the doctor. So I call the doctor. Next thing I know, I'm on my way to the hospital where I will be delivering, and they are hooking me up to all the monitors. And so yeah, they monitored me for maybe half an hour.

SPEAKER_01

They did a quick sonogram, and yeah, completely false alarm.

SPEAKER_02

And of course, on the drive home, and ever since, he's back to his normal self. So he's a little shit already. He is. Look what you did, you little shit.

SPEAKER_01

Look what you did. Yeah, it was like a it was like a drill.

SPEAKER_02

It was like a fire drill.

SPEAKER_01

It was a drill. We know where to go now, we know where to park.

SPEAKER_02

Did you bring your go bag? No, it's not done. Nothing is done. I'm like, we don't have anything. I was wondering, I was like, what if they have to induce her today? Like, she doesn't have shit ready. I don't.

SPEAKER_01

I have my hospital bag is partially packed, but it's not finished. The the bass net's in the basement. Our car seat hasn't been taken out of the box. Like, it would have not been great.

SPEAKER_02

This was a wake-up call for your asses. A little bit. Alright, so let's hope he holds off for at least a few more weeks while you guys get your fucking shit together.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we need to do that.

SPEAKER_02

But we always have to allow time for our pop culture and our shows and whatnot. Best believe I got to it all. Um, but you did not watch Stranger Things. No. What so but you did, so what was your what are your thoughts? What's your take? It's over R.I.P. Thank God. Um, it was not good. It was not good anyway. You slice it. The script surely was written by AI. Honestly, all eight episodes of the season were surely written by AI. So let that be a lesson to all those Hollywood bigwigs. AI can't do it all. It really can't. I'm a little shocked to hear you say this because I'm seeing a lot of positive reaction on TikTok. What are you and you promised you would send me some in alas, you wouldn't. Well, I haven't sent I haven't seen any since we talked about this yesterday. So what are people saying that they like? The ending. They're like, I was so emotional watching the ending. The 45-minute wind down? Yeah, I guess. After the show ended 45 minutes before the credits rolled. So I don't know what ending they're referring to because it could have ended at any point in between those 45 minutes. But RIP 11. Allegedly. I think she's dead. Well, that's your opinion. It's up to the viewer's discretion. Is that what the TikToks are saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's what the that's what an interview I read with the Duffer brothers said.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that's fine. I don't give a fuck. Like the ending of the Sopranos. Oh, yeah, that's true, but everyone hated that. They did say that they studied a bunch of endings, like Seinfeld Sopranos, like to get ready for this. The plot and the drama is one thing, but the actual lines that these actors had to say. Was it just poor delivery? No, no. I sent you a video of a line that was just like unforgivable. The line was bad, but the acting wasn't great either. True, true. And you know what? It's probably a little bit of both, but I don't even think fucking Meryl Streep could have saved this. It was atroche. And the action was okay. I mean, it just no, you know what? No, it wasn't. Nothing was okay. Not even the drama, the plots, like nothing. None of this was okay. How do you feel about the fact that each episode was the length of a movie? It wasn't really. They were all like an hour except for the last one. Oh, I thought they were like an hour and a half. And I literally, New Year's Eve, I had to turn the show off when it ended in my mind because I was like, whatever's gonna be after this, I need I need to take a break. But you did circle back and you finished it. And it was literally just like the kids graduating, the older kids drinking beer on a roof to show, you know, time has passed and now we can drink beer. And it was just, you know, oh, and then they're playing Dungeons and Dragons. You probably saw that on TikTok and how they're talking about how Eleven might be alive or whatever. Bullshit. It's just it was so painful and unnecessary. And the fact that they defeated this giant monster with like their little guns and their little rocks and their little flares. Are you kidding me? That's all it took the whole fucking time. Why did we need why did it take them four seasons to figure out to do that? Well, did they destroy him before or after Joyce beheaded Vecna? Spoiler alert. I think it was as. I think the two things are connected.

SPEAKER_01

Like when Neville slayed Nigiri, and then they were able to kill Voldemort.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you for reminding me of another serious issue here is that this is a fucking Harry Potter ripoff. This is an AI Harry Potter ripoff. Will is Harry and Vecna is Voldemort. They can feel each other. He literally grabs the back of his neck like Harry grabs his scar. Like this is not an original. Who's 11? I don't know any of the other fucking witches or wizards of Hogwarts. I don't and what sucks is it just was like such a cool show, you know? It was just cool. Yeah. It was. But it went to shit just like all the others. Well, glad it's over then. Yes. Thank you for letting me have my event, Sesh. You got it. I've also been watching Emily in Paris. Now that is much better. I would call it a guilty pleasure, but I'm not guilty. And I never have.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't take it last season, and I'm not taking it this season. Because I couldn't take the corn, and you know that one girl just won't stop singing, and I can't take it.

SPEAKER_02

Because I saw it on TikTok, she's still singing. Oh, yeah, she sings like every episode. Ashley Park is a Broadway star.

SPEAKER_01

That's fine, but like I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out than watch her sing for another second.

SPEAKER_02

If you say that Emily and Paris has too much corn, I mean Stranger Things is a thousand times worse on the corn scale. Like Emily and Paris felt like a palette cleanser in so many ways to turn from one to the other on the same streaming giant. And I watched neither. So what does that tell you? What have you been watching then? Honestly, I'm gonna be real real with you.

SPEAKER_01

The office was on like all day for two days straight on AMC or something, and that's what was on my TV.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't know you had AMC. Um, I have a hookup to direct TV. Interesting. Who pays like 80 bucks a month for that? I wonder that you're that you're mooching off of.

SPEAKER_01

Couldn't tell you. And luckily we were we were blessed with at least Salt Lake this week.

SPEAKER_02

Luckily, but also unluckily, because I'm not ready for it to be over.

SPEAKER_01

I told you this yesterday, but when they said next week on the season finale, I gasped aloud and said, No.

SPEAKER_02

I haven't been that devastated since you told me you were moving away just about a year ago. So what'd you think of this week? Well, it felt like I'd been a decade since I'd seen them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but we're still in Greece.

SPEAKER_02

We're still in Greece. Um, I loved it. Loved the episode. What else can I say? I mean, I love them all. It's I'm a broken record here.

SPEAKER_01

Did you like the dress photo shoot?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it was fine.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know this is nitpicky, but I felt like there was like three different shades of blue. I'm like, could we get a green in the mix?

SPEAKER_02

I was confused why so many of them are wearing blue. And what did you think about splash spa splashing? I was gonna say we should talk about the lighter, the B plot before we get to the A plot. I I mean the spa really isn't for splashing.

SPEAKER_01

I do agree, but at the same time, like I really was on the fence with this because at the same time, Brittany's argument that like last time we were on a trip on the boat, I was getting buckets of water dumped on me and did not react this way.

SPEAKER_02

I was like valid. She takes everything on the chin, and she should know better than to expect them to feel this do the same. My other question is was that water situation the only thing they did at the spa? I was wondering that too. And was it hot or cold water? I couldn't tell. Because when I think they kind of were like, oh, you know, they didn't look like they were soothed and warm. And why did Lisa fully get in with pants on? Heather got in with like more clothing than I would have expected, also.

SPEAKER_01

I was confused by the spa situation because at first when they're like, Oh, we're gonna go to lunch and we're gonna go to the spa, I was like, that's not even a debate. Like, I meet me at the spa. But then they were there and I'm like, what are we what are we even doing?

SPEAKER_02

Well, first of all, it wasn't a debate. It was planned that those ladies were gonna go to lunch and discuss the topic at hand. But not aside. I'm like, yeah, I mean, there was no feet foot massages, a regular massage, uh, a scrub, facial, theme room, just this pool situation. This perhaps lukewarm pool that that left Angie's hair all sticky or crunchy, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder if it was salt water.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, maybe maybe that's what it but like no one else was in there, so it's not that embarrassing, and I just would have I wouldn't have cared.

SPEAKER_01

But when Angie was going over her whole hair routine and she's like, that's why my hair looks like this, and Brittany's hair looks like hers, I was like, also valid.

SPEAKER_02

I feel pretty good. Brittany's hair looks terrible. But I do exactly what you do. No, you don't. I literally bought your shampoo. You don't blow dry your hair every single day. Because I don't wash it every day. Case in point. Okay, I got myself into a hole with that one. Also, don't you still sleep with it what? I try to not. Try to not is not I never do you sleep in a protective hairstyle? No.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well then don't tell me you do exactly the same thing as me when you don't.

SPEAKER_02

I will say that when I don't sleep on it wet, it does I notice a huge difference. Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_01

PSA That's crazy to sleep with wet hair.

SPEAKER_02

Crazy. Oh my gosh. Speaking of self-care, I guess. Guess what I got at Target today? Like a gel builder manicure kit. Oh, does it come with a light? I think so. I haven't opened it yet, but oh well. Let me know how that works. I will. Like I wouldn't, I didn't want to get the gel at home one because those just like peel off so easily. But gel builder. If it works for you, I might try it. It's only 30 bucks, too. That's crazy. I spent a fortune on my gel-ex nails. Right? So I don't know. So I mean, we'll see. So we'll put a pin in that one.

SPEAKER_01

We'll let you be the guinea pig.

SPEAKER_02

So we did have um a series topic where the this was Whitney and Bronwyn and Mary at lunch discussing Meredith, and Mary saying Meredith has a problem. Can I just say, first of all, their food, particularly Whitney's, looked delicious. What was it? I can't even remember. All I know is there was this big bowl of like pasta of some kind, like or rigatoni, perhaps. And I was like, I want that. Soon, well, soon you'll be able to have it. It just looked good. Everything they've eaten on this trip, it all looks good. It's precious fuck. They're in Greece. Yeah, I'd like to go to Greece, I think. So back to the big question does Meredith have a problem? Probably. Based on the one hour a day, a week we see her in edited form. I think she's certainly on some kind of pills, no doubt. Like, do I think she has a drinking problem? I think she has a mixing problem. Yeah, I don't think she's an alcoholic. No, I think she pops a Xanny and has some drinks. That's what I think. And Erica Jane, who amongst? I mean, Erica Jane was remember when she was like rolling off the seat of the boat? Yes. Rolling around on that boat. I'm lit. We've seen this time and time again. And I think Meredith is on some kind of anti-anxiety, whatever. It maybe isn't Xanax specifically, I don't know, but like there's something happening there, and then she mixes, and then she freaks out on planes, you know? And they're talking about how she goes from high highs to low lows. I don't think her highs are that high. Like, just because she went from saying, Brooks is on a plane, I will not speak to Brooks on Mother's Day, which I could re-watch that. Like, that's like AS to me. It was so good. So happy to have that flashback. Yeah, me too. I was like, Oh, thank you for showing me that little treat again, that little moment. But going from that to swimming in the pool and take, you know, like that I don't I didn't see that as being like a manic situation. She's just getting back to normal, doing her job. She was sad in the morning, and then and that's what that's what these ladies are paid to do is to she was doing her job to bring the drama and make you invested and watch, and then they're also supposed to have fun together. Yeah. Because I treasure those moments equally. Yeah, I mean, make no mistake, she's mixing more than she ought to be, but I don't think she's a straight alcoholic, and I think lots of people do this. She just has a camera on her. She, yeah. I think Mary, who was crying and deeply upset, um, suggesting uh Meredith had a problem. I think that she's just so haunted by her son, and she's straight upset, like I couldn't help him, like I didn't know the signs with my son. I know the signs now. And part of me was like, okay, well, if she really knows the signs, then we should believe her. But then another part of me is I think she's she just wants to help someone because she couldn't help her son. I think that's probably true. Like, I don't know if Meredith is in a position where she actually needs help, but the issue is like that she isn't copping to it.

SPEAKER_01

Cause like, not to circle back to the plane thing again, but like the pulling.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's what this is all stemming from, really.

SPEAKER_01

If she had just said, like, yeah, you know what? I had already taken an ambient and then I had a glass of wine. Oops, don't remember, we'd all be done here. Cause like you said, who amongst?

SPEAKER_02

But like Erica James, Denise Richards, let's not forget the jacket being upside down. But she's just fully the the full denial of it all is is the issue. Yeah. And hopefully at the reunion we we dig into that a little more. And then we had a dinner where the ladies literally got kicked out. They were asked to leave several, several times.

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Hilarious.

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But it brought them together.

SPEAKER_01

That was so funny, especially when they left in the server was like, Thank god they left.

SPEAKER_02

If I were a server, I would want to see all this. No, I'd be like, don't make me kick them out. Oh, I'm not kicking them out. No, and also like uh maybe in Greece they do things differently, but in America, if you come in and sit down before the closing time, even if it's like 20 minutes before, you don't get kicked out. As a former waitress, there is nothing worse. But you can't kick them out. And they are those are the people that tend to stay for a long time. Oh, yeah. And honestly, in Europe, I mean that is that is common practice to stay for long periods of time. I want to know what time it was. Was it like 2 a.m.? These shows never ever give us time unless it's Ultimate Girls Trip.

SPEAKER_01

I want a timestamp.

SPEAKER_02

I do too, because they're going here and there and getting ready for this and then you know, shopping and yeah. Sometimes I I really need it. Because I can understand them getting kicked out if it's like 2 a.m. Yeah. But if it's like seven or nine. But honestly, even two a.m. like I don't know. I thought the Greek I just like thought Greeks could party. Opa. Opa. Other than that, I didn't I didn't really have much other than it was entertaining. It was our one Bravo show, two weeks without Beverly Hills. We've got to Well, I got a Vanderpump, but I did not get a Southern Charm. And you know, I was doing something else on my computer, so it didn't all fully register to me. But it it's perfectly pleasant to have on. Okay. Well, that's not, you know, a ringing endorsement. So I'm gonna I'm gonna, you know, not jump to watch that one. I have, as I'm sure you have been, bombarded, can't avoid it. And I we should have talked about it off the top. But heated rivalry, I feel like I've watched it through and through, even though I haven't. I haven't seen a second. But I do have a friend who did watch it, and she said it was really good. Well, my husband's a big hockey fan, so I said, Are you gonna watch heated rivalry? And he said no. And I said, Are you homophobic? And he said no. So I'm not sure what to make of that. The reason I didn't run to it is because and this is bad, but I'm not attracted to either of those main characters. If it was Jonathan Bailey. Oh, hundred percent. Oh my god, and you could not, I would have taken that down in one day, probably. What was the movie he was in with Matt Bomber? Fellow travelers. Did you watch that? It was a mini-series, and no, I did not. Well, you didn't run to that. Well, it wasn't like this show is literally popular because it's just sex all the time. I think it's popular because how often do we get not just like a gay love story, but like a sports gay love. Here's the thing there aren't I don't know, actually, I don't know that there's I could be wrong, and I wish that my husband was like within earshot, but I don't I don't know personally of any hockey players currently that are like out. Yeah, and okay, you're right. I'm sorry. So we there came from The sex and they stayed for the love story, the hot the sports love story. And what I hope comes from this, I don't, I mean, it's who can say what will change the world, but like statistically speaking, there's gotta be so many hockey players that are gay that are unfortunately closeted, and it's just like 2026. Why are we doing that and football players too? Like, how many sports football players are there? Sports and and high school hockey players, high school, elementary school sports, you know, like this is showing all of them that you can play sports and be gay. We need people to come out, we just need them to come out, come out, come out. No, we are not we you're not supposed to force anyone out of the closet. I'm not forcing them, I'm just saying it's okay. Let's you can do that now. Well, hopefully that's what this is showing them. But some people, you know, their families aren't supportive, etc. Like there's a lot of other factors, but and in hockey specifically, there's a lot of non-Americans in the league, like Eastern Europeans, especially. There's a lot, and it's just different there. And I do believe there are actually there's actually another gay couple with the hockey player in this show. Hmm, interesting. So I don't know. I think I I gotta watch it, even though I don't really want to. Because not because of the the gayness or this, obviously, or not because of the sex, but I don't want to because I don't like sappy love stories. And from what I've seen on the on the you know socials is a lot of sappy corny crap.

SPEAKER_01

Well, if you take the journey, let me know what you think, and maybe I will if you feel I would like it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I think I will just because I have to be at the center of what everyone's talking about. Not being a part of Love Island was really hard for me. And I it's tough. This is only six episodes. Granted, am I really late? Are people even still talking about this anymore? No, but that's usually about when I get to things. It's really too bad that Love Island isn't gonna be on while I'm on maternity leave. Because I feel like that would really work out for me. I thought we already figured out you were gonna watch Below Deck. I am, but you know, Love Island is something I can't really ever get to because I'm like just because I have a job. Uh well, you know what else is coming next week? Traiters. I'm so excited. Me too. To see Dorinda! Lisa Rina! Mama Kelsey all in the same room. It's gonna be so mad. It's gonna blow my fucking mind. If they kill Lisa Rina first, I will I will burn it to the ground. But we'll still have Dorinda.

SPEAKER_01

If they kill Lisa and Dorinda first, yeah, because last season it was very much like Attack the Housewives, and I I just can't have.

SPEAKER_02

But it wasn't because fucking Dolores stuck around forever. Let me Google the cat. Who's non-housewives that's there? I think we have Chanel Ayan, too, who I could do without, honestly. We had her last year. She was last year? Yeah, I'm sick of her. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, Natalie Anderson from Survivor and the Amazing Race. She will be great.

SPEAKER_02

Don't know him.

SPEAKER_01

It's she.

SPEAKER_02

Jam Jam from Survivor, he will be great. Love her. Big fan. Mark Ballast from Dancing with the Stars. That will be interesting, if nothing else. I feel like there's been a ballast resurgence because of his, you know, his partnership with Whitney. Uh Rob Sestorino Sesternino from Survivor. I don't remember him. Stephen Colletti. Stephen Coletti is gonna be the Dylan Efron. Like a little dumb but ha Candius from Potomac. Oh, okay. Um Ron Funches, a comedian. Don't know him. I think I've I've seen his face. Mora Higgins from Love Island, which we of course don't watch. Donna Kelsey. Kristen Kish from Top Chef. Don't know her. She hosts it now. Tara Lipinski. That's gonna be good. Yeah, Johnny Weir. Oh, was Johnny Weir there too? Yeah, oh sorry, spoiled it. Durinda Tiffany Mitchell from Big Brother.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I recall, she'll be good.

SPEAKER_02

Monet Exchange from RuPaul.

SPEAKER_01

Eric Nam, a singer. Never heard of that guy. K-pop star.

SPEAKER_02

Michael Rappaport. Oh my god, he loves Bravo so much. That'll be he'll probably be good, I feel. Oh my god. I can't believe it took him them this long to put him on there. To put him on something. Rob Roush from Love Island. Don't know that guy, but he looks like a douche. Um, Lisa Renna, of course. Caroline Stanbury. Oh, okay, okay. Ian Terry from Big Brother. He'll be good. I definitely remember him. The little guy. Yep. He's on that? I have no idea. Yep. Um, Colton Underwood. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Colton Brown Underwood. He's Mary Merried Man. Johnny Weir, as you said. Portia. Oh my god. Portia Williams. Yes. That's it. Holy shit. Holy mother of God. That little Ian from Big Brother is going to be in the same room as Carolyn Stanbury. What? Um, Colton Underwood is going to converse with fucking Portia Williams? Yep. This is unreal. Stephen Calutti is gonna be chatting it up with Dorinda. This is a stacked cast. I am beside myself. I'm so excited. Johnny Weir is also like an amazing character, but I think it's unfair that they're putting him in with Terra Lapinski because they're like a known duo.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe they'll explicitly not be that way then.

SPEAKER_02

They're besties. Like they're gonna be targeted immediately. Do you think that they'll make one of them a traitor and one of them not? Yes. Yeah. I think Johnny Weir has to be a traitor. He's so theatrical. I think for that reason, ex alone, it'll be Tara. Oh. Yeah, because when you beg for it, they don't want to give it to you. It's too obvious. Okay, so who do we think the other traitors are gonna be? We think it's gonna be Tara Lapinsky. Steven Colletti. I don't know why. I think it's gonna be Steven Kaletti, too. Um I think they're gonna make one survivor or big brother player a traitor, also.

SPEAKER_01

Probably Natalie, then, if I had to guess who would be a good one.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know all the survivor people, so I'm gonna count on your word. So that's our prediction. Those are our three. Yep. So no housewives are gonna be traitors. At least not to start. Okay. Oh my god. I feel like the producers have to explicitly say don't vote out Dorinda or Lisa.

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I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02

Like Dorinda is so important that she got a second chance, and no one else that's been voted out first has gotten a second chance. Well, the fans obviously rioted with her early departure, us included. They should have done so. I yeah, I don't know how they can like prevent that, but this is so important. I can't wait. I have missed Lisa Rina so fucking much. I know, I'd like to have her back. And I'm now we get two, and I'm very excited. I can't even breathe. I'm gonna hyperventilate thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01

I can't breathe either.

SPEAKER_02

Thank god we got one good thing to come out of, you know, now it's the boring ass dead of January.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_02

Boo.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I just think back to when I watched season one in my COVID haze the first time I had COVID, and it was horrible.

SPEAKER_02

To see where we are now is just we've grown so much in this show. They did it right, they got rid of the normies, no one wants to see them. No, and they the casting has only I don't know if they got a new casting person after the first season. I think just like as it gets more popular, more people want to do it. But it wasn't popular the first season. Which is a shame. I mean, it had Brandy Glamville, it had Kyle from Summerhouse, like I know, and I wasn't I hadn't taken my Summerhouse journey yet at that point, so I didn't even appreciate that Kyle was on it. Yeah, I mean, like I don't I I know him, you know, I know who he is in the universe, but is he kicking? Of course he is, because now I'm home. Yeah, because he says I don't want to go to the hospital again until I'm ready to to meet you. Well then don't freaking kid. As I say, as I say many times, this is just this is only the start. Thanks. Should we move over to the 90-day uni universe? Okay, which one do you want to start with? Um we can start with Lisa? So you want to start with um before the 90 days? Oh uh yeah, let's do that. I think before the 90 days is the best of the 90 day franchises right now. Well, yeah, definitely. So Lisa. Well, we get to meet Daniel. Daniel. He loves her boobs. He loves her boobs. His mom was saved by a white woman during the war. So he's gonna marry a white woman. He loves that she supports him financially. Who wouldn't? He's worried because she vapes. And because she had a relation with a woman one time. Little does he know.

SPEAKER_01

It was many times, and she's still married to a woman.

SPEAKER_02

Many times, many marriages. And she's also gonna wear her wig around the clock. That sounds horrific. To bed, to to shower, perhaps. Yep. But not on the plane. So I think this woman is a monster because we watched her look her daughter in the eye and promise her I'm not gonna marry this man without you talking to you first, without your permission. This episode, she straight up said she would break that promise. Yeah, she's a terrible mother. Terrible. Monster. It's giving Brittany Bateman. Yeah. Can I say something? Yes. We might have to edit this out. I feel like in a parallel universe, like that could have been you. Because you you just love love and like you just wanted a man so bad back in the day. People just change. Obviously, she hasn't, but I have. But if you hadn't changed, good news, I did. Like, I could see uh parallel universe Lil uh abandoning her child to call me to scammer on the internet, you know. Like if if 17 different things had things had gone differently, you know what I mean? Like they say every choice leads you to a different choice. You hadn't had the great upbringing you had, like this is hurtful. I'm sorry. I'm not saying it's you, I'm just saying, like, there's a little piece I see a little piece of you in Britney Bateman and Lisa 90 Days Desire for Love. I was never a parent in that position. I know, but if you had been, like, who can say?

SPEAKER_01

We can assume I would have been a better parent than that, please, and thank you.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not saying you. I'm not saying this is something you would do. I'm saying parallel universe you, upside down you. Okay, well, anyway, she gets on the plane. Wigglow Cut it out! I said we might have to cut it out. I asked if I could say something. I'm leaving this in so that people know who you really are. I'm the monster. You're the monster. I'm just saying I saw I saw echoes. She's just blinded by love and who amongst.

SPEAKER_01

So she gets on the plane after lying straight to her daughter Wigless, and she's off. And hopefully next week we'll get to see them meet.

SPEAKER_02

No, Lisa was Wigless.

SPEAKER_01

So Daniel also went to the elders to ask if Lisa was gonna be a good omen or a bad one. She'll be a good one. I'm assuming the gods mean because she's gonna pay for your lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02

The problem is this woman is not rich, she's having to borrow money from her friend. She's to send to him, which is crazy. This woman is poor. Yeah. So this is definitely a Michelangelo situation, without a doubt.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe Lisa's less aggressive, though.

SPEAKER_02

That's true. Lisa does seem sweet. She said Daniel was so sweet, he hurt her mouth like candy. Because she's so gullible, sucker. This poor woman. You would never be that gullible, I will say, in any universe. No, you're welcome. Okay. Um, Forrest and Sheena. These two crazy kids and their chemistry right off the bat. That mom is fucking sick. Okay, do you think that the producers made her absolutely? No, I think she's fucking sick. Because it's not like the first time she brought it up. When she suggested fondling, I've never. That was a moment, unlike any other moment I've seen on TV, of this woman suggesting her grown son fondle his 40-year-old girlfriend. She knows no boundaries. They don't exist. She calls it nookie-nookie. What's worse? Nookie-nookie or making love. Nookie-nookie. Well, I think also it's like that was said by his mom, so it's not. Yeah, it depends on the source. It depends on the short. If she had said making love, I think that would have been worse. I disagree. Because of the way she said it, I j it was just all horrible. It seems like it seemed a little racist, honestly. I didn't I didn't take that away, but she just said it with like an accent. Like an I think that's just her being disgusting. Anyway, so then they go to a soup place. Wait, can we just talk about how Forrest did a great job standing up to his mother? At the soup place? No, in the car. She's he's like, enough of this. Yeah. If you want to know anything about sex, we'll come up to you and ask you. Well, somebody had to freaking do it. I'm just glad he did because he's he's clearly like not the most normal of fellas. Yeah, but he's also not the least normal. And he's not saying he can't blow her socks off. But it's not his mom's business. It's not his mom's business. That was a direct quote from him, by the way. Okay, so they go to eat food. What always shocks me is when people are in really hot countries and then they have soup. Me too. Like that seems horrible to me. But also the soup looked good, so I feel conflicted. Yeah, I think that in that situation you'd have to just try your best. So the horrible mom, I think her name's Molly, asks Sheena about the lying about giving her parents money. What did you think of Sheena's breakdown in tears? I think she's not the most normal of fellas either. So I think the reaction was a little a little much, obviously, but I think that her feelings were real. I don't think she was like faking it.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't either. I think they're like trying to get to the bottom of like why she wasn't truthful about it. And I think it's probably just because it's hard for her to say things that she knows are gonna disappoint them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and she doesn't want to say bad things about her parents. Yeah, she's in a shitty position, I think. Yeah, she just is like in the middle of all of this. I feel bad for her. Me too. And for Forrest, honestly. Yeah, like the mom is like, it seems like the mom knows the assignment. She's watched the show and she's come in ready to do her job. And this isn't this is actually real for them. Sheena was in another ill-fitted shirt at the soup restaurant. I noticed. She was, but she did like the lingerie that Forrest bought her. Yes, but they did not consummate the relationship yet, which I respect. But he's not saying he can't knock her socks off. He just hasn't yet. He just hasn't yet. So then we also had a little more of Emma Emma and Zayed who went to an actual snake charmer to get some clarity. The clear's head situation. That guy kind of has a good sense of humor. How? When she was saying I'm sorry for how she acted, he's like, What? I didn't hear you. Oh. I thought that was cute. I always think it's cute when like these people from other countries that speak other languages like get like you do humor, like in English. Do humor? Yeah. Do comedy in English, make jokes in English. I also thought that after like the breakfast scene, them and their talking head, they looked happy. I think they probably are. I mean, you bought her those three ugly wallets, and then everything was okay. Yeah. All was right with the world again. Yeah, I don't I'm not really caring about them too much. Not yet. Tell us why you're tell us why you're wearing a wig. You went on TV wearing a wig. I really want to know you deserve to know why. And that goes for Sophie also. Like I mean, Lisa shared. Yeah, Sophie should have told us. Yeah. I want to I'm not gonna question your wig if you're just a normal citizen. Like, I don't need to know what's going on under there. I don't deserve to know. You put your ass on TV.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

You have to tell us. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Who else did we have? We have Laura and Beer Can. Oh my god, that was so horribly awkward. Woof. Okay, so Laura. Laura finally meets Beer Can. She runs an Airbnb for them. The meeting seems to go okay at first. Yeah, at the airport, it seems like a good first meeting. Yeah. Then they get to the Airbnb. I think it starts to get weird even in the car. Oh, yeah, when they were dead silent in the car. Yeah. Do you think she smelled bad? Wouldn't she know if she did?

SPEAKER_01

After long flights, they usually give you like a mini toothbrush on the plane. Maybe she didn't use it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, like, remember when Greta on the other other way show, like the same show, different title? Was like, I you smell bad, you need to shower. And she's like, I know, ha ha ha. But that wasn't their first meeting. I know, I'm just saying, like, you would know if you smelled bad, wouldn't you? I hope so.

SPEAKER_01

And it just wasn't even more weird because she just kept staring at him, and he was just like not staring at her. Like, what?

SPEAKER_02

So fucking into him. Like, he's her fantasy novel dream come to life. I think I wrote something down for once. I never take notes on any of these shows because I like to wing it, but I had to write this down so I could recall. Keep going while I locate. So she thinks that he's part of straight out of a fantasy novel that she's writing, and she's he's so hot, he's exactly how she thought he was gonna look. This man is not hot, but do you have it? He said at one point while they were walking along the waterfront: architecture is the art we live in. And she's and she said. That's really profound. That's all. I was just letting it sit there for a moment. He said more shit like that. And in her talking head, she was like, Yeah, he says some ridiculous stuff sometimes. And I'm like, all the time. You hate you hate this guy, you just think he's hot. Which he's not even. I know. It's almost like she got herself into this, but then by the time they get to the Airbnb, she's really realizing exactly what she got herself into. And Michael's blowing up her phone. Why didn't that guy just take the opportunity to say he liked her? That would have been the best love story of all time. Could have avoided all meeting her at the airport. Well, he's gonna show up in Turkey. I mean, but how long are they gonna let this go before he shows up? Because things are terrible. He sh she literally he gets to the Airbnb, puts his fucking feet up, turns on the TV, like, and we know that he does not really have a home of his own, it seems.

SPEAKER_01

No, he couch surfs.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So I think that he just like enjoyed having a couch that was close to his own. Yep. He liked that more than her. Definitely. He wants nothing to do with her, it's very clear. When she said I'm gonna go to bed, and he's like, Okay, good night. Bye. Not a kiss, not a hug. No. I was shocked. He has no intention of doing any of those things. I was shocked. I thought at least he'd fake it to make it. I mean, I think hopefully he's gonna have to at some point, or she'll wise up. I mean, you have to try. If you want that ticket to America, you've got to put the work.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta try a little harder, otherwise, she's not gonna, you won't get it.

SPEAKER_02

I would have left right then and there, that look luxurious Airbnb and like fucking also canceled it. And so we'd have to get out.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I would have kicked him out.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. I paid for it.

SPEAKER_01

I'll stay there and I'll have my vacation. Michael will come, we'll fall in love, and you can get out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. If you are gonna say goodnight to me like I'm your fucking sister, sorry. We're done here. And then what's worse, we see in the scenes, she takes him to a plastic surgery consult. Why did she bring to that? I gotta say though, really smart to book that appointment while you're in Turkey. Yes, but then she blew it by bringing him. Why did she bring beer can? I don't know. Maybe he wants to get some work done too. And he's gonna use some new teeth. This man is not a romanticy novel cover. Romantic romanticy, is that what we're calling romance fantasy? Yeah, is it not? I think I didn't know, I like it. Yeah, I think that's what people call it.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, who else do we have on this?

SPEAKER_02

Last but not least, we have the man who has been married three years to his wife who lives in. I don't remember, but I don't know their names yet. But he has never met her in person, but they've been married for three years. He I think he's somewhere like Alabama, and he works at an old folks' home. She's in the Philippines. Okay, and they put the rings on themselves over Zoom when they got married. Allegedly, they were gonna meet, but then COVID ruined it. Yes. So he's finally gonna meet her. But my first impression of these people is that this dude sucks. Yeah, I mean, when the sister says so nonchalantly, matter-of factly, yeah. I mean, she's 100% unhinged and off her rocker, like you know, but but my brother was wrong.

SPEAKER_01

That's really saying something, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it's too soon to tell much about them, other than he is emotionally cheating on her and doesn't understand how that's a problem. And I mean, the big their bigger problem is they've literally never even been in the same room together, breathed the same air. But they're gonna be very soon. Can't we just see how that one goes? I was devastated we didn't get the tap dancer who physically cheated on his has yet to come clean about it. That is not gonna end well. No, he's in deep doo-doo. We also allegedly are getting Elise from 90 Day Hunt for Love at some point, and so it leads me to believe that one of these couples is gonna put her out very quickly, and I wanted to ask you who you think it is. Okay, I think it's gonna be Trish and Rick, the tap dancer. Okay, what do you think? I think it it's either them or it's Laura and the beer can. Yeah, that's my top two, but the fact that we didn't get Rick this episode, the fact that we didn't even get scenes for Rick next episode makes me think that they're really trying to spread it out because that did not go. He deserves to get the boot, quite honestly. Yeah, he does. I don't even care if he has a friendly face. He's a terrible person. Yeah, his face is deceiving. Alright, so the other way, Toe. Toe, same show, different name. Um, we got delightfully some Jenny and Samit. Finally. So in this episode, they're bitching. She's bitching about having to live at Summit's parents' house, as if she does not comprehend that the alternative is homelessness. I I kept thinking she's like, I can't take it anymore. And I kept saying, Where are you gonna go, Jenny? Where are you going? Somewhere explain this to her. Very she won't be able to comprehend, I feel. She can't, she doesn't get it. And they they then they're having like a very wholesome family fun outing playing cricket. Cricket looked so fun. Jenny in her skinny jeans, she gets hit with the ball, and they're still just making jokes. The mom hit her with the ball, which was really funny to me. But she still laughed about it. Jenny laughed, she took it like a champ. But then things really took a left turn so fast. What's that? What did the argument even start over? I don't even remember. You know, I don't remember. I think it was just something about how the mom was too controlling of them or something, and like they weren't doing their part. These people are just like sitting there, these lazy fuckers are just like mooching off the parents, and well, at first I thought that, and I was like, I I also was very much like this is super cultural, like she is behaving probably in a normal way that most mothers and mother-in-laws behave in India, but the sister-in-law was also like on Jenny's side, which made me think, is the mom actually that bad? Was she though, or was she comforting her? No, I think she was I think she was agreeing. I mean, the sister did look very distressed. I just couldn't I didn't pick up whose side she was actually on. I think it's Jenny's. I love how Jenny is just like so blissfully unaware of like the screaming is going on, but she has no idea what they're saying. Not a clue. So at one point she's just like she needs to relax, she's gonna give herself a heart attack. I don't think Jenny cares what she's saying. This isn't my problem, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah. So that was interesting. I'm embarrassed for them that they put themselves on TV. I'm so glad they did. Yeah, but also grateful. Other than that, the only thing I remember really was the French couple, and we got we learned why the woman, I forget her name, I'm sorry. Manon. Yeah, why Manon is so like her complex feelings around money. Enlighten me, I've forgotten. So they stem from her childhood because her dad, I I don't know what happened to him, but I her mom, like, they never had enough money, they were always worried about money. She had to like help her mom figure out like the finances and and like doing the math, and like, do we have enough money for this as a kid? And she's like, a kid shouldn't have to worry about like if you're gonna be able to feed us. That is very accurate. So that's why she's working, working, working all the time because it's textbook. That makes sense, and that she's telling the mom, like, this is why I'm like this. It's your fault. Mom's laughing. That's horrible. Well, the thing is, like, parents can screw up their kids in so many ways that they don't even realize, like, literally. Well, that's an easy one not to do, you know. Well, yeah, that's true. But like, she probab she didn't know. Like, parents don't know when they're screwing up their kids. I don't know. I'll keep you posted. Like, what what the mom thought wasn't a big deal, clearly. Was she just genuinely didn't know that that was a big deal. I don't know, man. I think that's common sense. To us personally. Do you think it would have been common sense to Jenny? No. Thank God Jenny's not a mother. Jesus. She is, she has a daughter. I'm sorry. She has a daughter, like in her 40s. Someone had a child with her? Yes. They live in San Diego. What is she like? I you gotta go back. You must have not watched the introductory season. No, I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, she's got a daughter. Oh my god. Okay, I will look into that later. Put a bit in that one. Um, we also had a brief moment with Luke and Madeleine the night before the wedding, where the dad, his sweet British dad, is kind of grilling her a little bit. But I honestly don't have a ton of memory from that, so maybe I just like don't care about them. Yeah, I think it wasn't memorable. He showed, I know he showed his dad like his land that he bought that he wants to turn into like a hotel. Yeah. And the dad was like, I don't think you understand that. Like, this is this is you know, it's gonna be a lot of work, which is like an understatement of the century to turn fucking undeveloped land into a hotel in a place that you don't even know the language of. Yep. So juries I don't know if they get married or not. I guess we'll find out. Isn't it happening in like days? Allegedly. Yeah, I mean, I think that before the 90 days is just like so much better. And I look actually like find myself looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01

There was a season of the other way. Some are better than others.

SPEAKER_02

There was one couple on the other way once. This girl, gosh, I can't remember her name. I want to say it's Kim, but that might be wrong. Is this the collapsing house? No, god, that was tragic, though. I think about that all the time. I do too. I wonder how they're doing. Um, no, this girl went to India to live with her husband and was never not like screaming. It she was unhinged. And it was really fun to watch. Oh, you did tell me about that one. You know, if I ever take a maternity leave, because society decides to also let single people and uh childless cat ladies also get a break. I'm just kidding, it's not a break. I'm just kidding. I'm just that was a joke. Being a mother is the hardest job in the world. Obviously, I know that because that's why I don't want to be it. I'd rather not do the hardest job in the world, personally. I don't know that it'll be the hardest job in the world. Alright. Report back. I'm gonna write that down on the list of things that you've said. There's gotta be harder things to do. Well, maybe like brain surgery. Yeah, that's my thought. Like, that would be really hard. That's like being a doctor is the only other situation where you're literally in charge of like how this person turns to be in society. Damn that you don't even we're not even related to them. That's like way more pressure, if you ask me. That's true. Okay, second hardest job in the world. Anyway, do you want to give us a brief update on diaries? I do actually. So we had Kenny and Armando, who I don't know because, as we just mentioned, I don't watch the spin-offs. Um, one of them is 37 and one of them is 62, which literally knocked me off my chair that this young looking man was 62. I love them. They're a lot from the for a time. A day over 40. Do you think it's his like um whimsical um hairdo that makes him seem younger? Like it's a good one. It's helpful, but I think it also just gets good work done, like good Botox and stuff. And I think they live in Mexico City. They do. And so, I mean, I want to go there to get my work done and shit. So they are trying to have a baby. They had a surrogate before, but it didn't go very well. So they're like meeting with a new company to like see if they feel a fit to have a baby, but their daughter, or I guess Armando's daughter, doesn't want them to have a baby. So that's where we're at with that. Anna doesn't want a sibling, correct. And then we got Nikki of Nikki and Igor. Oh, how's she? She is singing again, as um Brittany Cartwright would say, she's getting her sparkle back. She was jumped by Igor. She performed at the New York Gay Pride Parade, and she has um like a trio of other transgender women that sing with her, and they're like we're recording a Christmas song, I believe. Oh, how exciting! Maybe it wasn't a Christmas song. I can't remember, but it was like that kind of vibe. Okay. Um, next week we're gonna see Sean and Aaliyah. Oh, great. Aaliyah gets her green card, which is what it was all for anyway. Absolutely. It has her dead name on it, and so she's really sad. Oh, that's too bad. And then I'm surprised by that. Yeah, me too. So then we're gonna see Tiffany and her sweet little son. Remember though, like when her son Daniel was like a little, little, little boy. Well, I just saw her on Hunt for Love and she kind of pissed me off on that show, so was her son on it? No. To see her son as a literal grown-up was disturbing, unsettling, so unsettling. I didn't know which way was up after that. Did you get Daniel on Danielle and Johan on this episode? Who are those? Is that the girl that was like screaming at him? Yeah, that's what I want to hear about. Oh, I I didn't watch them. I I think he cheated and she screamed at him and said, like, I knew you would do this. Well, he always cheats on her. Like multiple women, and yeah, duh. Seemed like a TLS all this time, so I it is, but she also owes like a ton of money in back taxes to the state of New York. Oh my god, why? Allegedly. They did not get into that from what I saw. She's a piece of work, and so is he. They're fun to watch. I'm surprised that these people are still together. Maybe they'll be on last resort. Maybe they'll be on last resort. Who else is gonna be on last resort? Uh Kara and Guillermo. Karen Guillermo, Russ and Pow. What? Yeah. What was that? Una unofficialist. And then I guess they need to like be back in the in the fray. I guess. I can't remember who else was named. You know who could go is the blonde guy with the wife who had the baby in the Russian hospital. Stephen and his wife. They were like literally like breaking up on 90-day diaries. Oh, that's too bad. And they have a cute little son. And then who do we think is gonna be on Happily Ever After? I don't know. Oh, we don't we have we can't because we don't have 90 day week. We don't have a 90 day yet, and I was gonna say, I don't want to speculate on that. I need a a bit of a break from HEA. You're right. Honestly, the they that show really like beats you down.

SPEAKER_01

It does. But then you get before the 90 and it brings you back up.

SPEAKER_02

Thank goodness we have something from the franchise to keep us going in in this dull month of January.

SPEAKER_01

You gonna rot this weekend?

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's gonna rain here all weekend, so I'd like to hope so. I am gonna go to bar on Sunday.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. For a minute I was like, which bar? And then I realized you mean the a workout class.

SPEAKER_02

Think times are changing. Told me it might you know, actually, I might go to both types of bars this weekend. You might as well. What's stopping you? You know? Yeah. So I think we're gonna go just to our neighborhood watering hole, as seen on the valley, and watch, you know, my boyfriend can watch some football, I can drink some drinks, and maybe he'll even play a new game with me that I just bought. Called Bananograms. Correct. My one of my favorite games ever that I am the champion of. I've never loved a game that I've never won so much.

SPEAKER_01

Well, if you play with your boyfriend, you'll win.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, that's so disrespectful to him. But he might not want to play. Yeah, he'll probably get tired of it. And it's not because he's not smart, he just doesn't move as quickly as with as much speed as necessary. Yeah. What about you? You can't ra, you gotta get your shit together. This baby's a coming. We're nurserying this weekend. I'm also getting my hair done this weekend. Oh, you found a new product. Tomorrow, I did. I had to call around because my hairstylist uses a very specific brand of product, and I've been burned in the past by just going to any salon that I found, so I had to like make sure they could use the same exact formula. And I like basically pre-interviewed several salons. Um, and I found one, so I'm doing that tomorrow. And is it in your city or is it in the city of New York?

SPEAKER_01

It is in not in the city, it is in a different suburb of New York City. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Is it in Sequis? No, it's in a town called Westfield, which is really a nice town, also. So all right. Well, I can't wait to hear all about it. That's exciting.

SPEAKER_01

Super exciting. And then we're having some friends over for dinner tomorrow night.

SPEAKER_02

And then I don't really know what's going on on Sunday yet. I probably will be really tired by then. So I might want to because I have to start working again on Monday. Are you gonna go into the office? No. Wow, must be nice. No, it's too hard to get around now like that. Like if it was if it was a closer commute, you would?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe. The other thing is like I mean, probably if it was a closer commute, because the thing that I've also been kind of rolling over in my mind is like, even before today, if something happens, I don't want to be in New York and then have to try to get home to my hospital in distress.

SPEAKER_02

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01

I'll allow it. Like, we're kind of at the point now where it's like I don't want to be stuck in the city all day, not close to the hospital where she could go down.

SPEAKER_02

That's fair. That's it's probably paranoid, I know, because we're only 33 weeks and I get it, but you just never for mobility time. He could have come today and not out of car seat to go home in.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's not tech technically full term until 37 weeks. So we got about four months, four weeks to go before it's like literally anytime, but but it it still still could be anytime. Shit happens. So anyway, well, thanks for running with us, everyone, today. Yeah, and next week we'll have all our shows back. I think plus traders. Oh my god, next week a lot. That is one thing that'll make the work going back to work easier, bearable, is that I'll have traders. I'm gonna miss watching it next to you though. I mean, I can prop you up on my iPad on FaceTime. We'll save it for the pod. Anyway. Okay, well I'll talk to you later then I guess. Wonderful. Thanks for running with us, everyone.

unknown

Bye.