Rather Be Rotting
Rather Be Rotting is the ultimate escape for pop culture obsessives and reality TV junkies. Hosted by two sisters who’d always rather be rotting on the couch, this show is a love letter to Bravo marathons, niche celebrity drama, and the kind of useless-but-essential pop culture knowledge that clogs their brains (and now, your ears). Whether they’re deep-diving into reality TV chaos or spiraling over a red carpet moment, these two are here to talk about everything that doesn't matter—but means everything to them.
Rather Be Rotting
32 - Traitors, RHOSLC, RHOBH, RHOP, 90 Day Before the 90 Days, and 90 Day TOW
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The gals are late this week because Lil has been down with the plague! BUT never fear, they still managed to get to the mic to talk about all our favorite shows, starting with the continued amazingness of The Traitors. Somehow despite the first part of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Reunion and The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills being on, The Real Housewives of Potomac had the best ep of the week! Then the gals gab about all the gross TMI happening over on TLC with 90 Day Before the 90 Days and 90 Day The Other Way. All this plus planning summer trips and prepping for baby!
Welcome to Rather Be Running, where the two sisters who should really be doing something more productive that is like all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos, because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.
SPEAKER_01Hello, Madam. Hi Lil, happy Sunday.
SPEAKER_03Happy Sunday.
SPEAKER_01We're recording a late, late, late.
SPEAKER_03Late.
SPEAKER_01And why? Tell us why. I've been ill. Here to a lab? I got the flu. And you're with a child, so this is not good.
SPEAKER_03It's actually fine.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Well, fuck me then. Like he's fine. I was like, you having the flu does not affect him in the slightest.
SPEAKER_03Um, I don't know what the risk factors are of it being cross-placental, but it didn't appear to be.
SPEAKER_01So your doctor said everything was fine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, basically they're just like, let us know if he's not moving.
SPEAKER_01Well, what we what we came to the conclusion of is again, as on the last podcast we learned that you were woefully unprepared for baby. Now you're woefully unprepared in the way that your immune system is unprepared. Because if you get sick as much as usual when the baby's born, how are you ever gonna take care of him?
SPEAKER_03Mom has this theory that I need to get my tonsils out.
SPEAKER_01Do tonsils weaken your immune system?
SPEAKER_03I'm not sure where she got this from, but she seems to think that if I get my tonsils taken out, I will get sick less often.
SPEAKER_01I mean, that would be worth investigating at this point because like you can't go down as often.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01So you won't you don't have much time to figure this shit out. I will have you know though.
SPEAKER_03The car seat's out of the box. Car seat's out of the box, it's attached to its the stroller, which I built.
SPEAKER_01The car seat attaches to the stroller?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there's an attachment to the stroller so that if you're going like to the store or something and he's like asleep, you don't have to take him out of the car seat. You can just plunk. But if he does wake up, then you can Yeah, we can use the other one of the other many attachments that we have. So we set up the stroller. We took the car seat out of the box, we took the second base out of the box. I set up the bottle washer, I used it to wash and sterilize some bottles. It's washing and sterilizing pacifiers as we speak. The curtains are up in the nursery, the bottle warmer is set up, sheets washed, sheets washed, clothes washed.
SPEAKER_01Bring it on, little little guy. Come on, come on out. We're we're ready now.
SPEAKER_03We well, then let's give him a few more weeks. Yeah, he could cook a little longer, but we've been very productive since I've been feeling better over the last day.
SPEAKER_01Good.
SPEAKER_03Congrats. So, what have you been up to? Well, I've been so productive.
SPEAKER_01I have fallen victim to the workout class hype. Oh. And I can see why people pay a lot of extra money to do that instead of working out in front of their TV.
SPEAKER_03Because it's so much better.
SPEAKER_01It's just the vibes, man. The vibes give you the strength that you need, and like knowing that everyone is there, like with you doing it too. And you know, there's a teacher that's like giving you encouraging words that are like specifically tailored to what you're going through at that time. Like, even if someone on TV was talking to me, like I know they're not talking to me, you know.
SPEAKER_03I just want to say, like, I tried for so long to get you to be a Pilates girl with me, and you refused.
SPEAKER_01Well, because I didn't want to pay for classes and I still don't, so now I'm in a big pickle. Well, class pass. It's still expensive. That's like 200 bucks a month.
SPEAKER_03It's fine.
SPEAKER_01For you, because you're rich.
SPEAKER_03I'm not.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to save money. I'm trying to go on a trip this summer. You should. I was thinking that.
SPEAKER_03Where are you going?
SPEAKER_01Why? Why are we thinking that?
SPEAKER_03I just I've been thinking that you haven't been on like a vacay in a while.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, thanks for thinking of me.
SPEAKER_03Other than like our last family trip to Mexico, but like you and you and your man's used to go like lots of fun exotic places.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we've we've got something cooking.
SPEAKER_03What is it?
SPEAKER_01Well, should I wait to say until things are solidified? Because it's all just talk at the moment.
SPEAKER_03No, I want to know where.
SPEAKER_01We are thinking. How about you guess?
SPEAKER_03I don't play that game.
SPEAKER_01Play play it and I'll tell you if you're hot or cold. Spain. No, but you're in the right Greece.
SPEAKER_03No, Croatia.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Malta. Italy.
SPEAKER_01No. But you're very close. You're like guessing all around it.
SPEAKER_03I give up.
SPEAKER_01There's one place you haven't guessed.
SPEAKER_03Portugal. No. Okay, well you I guessed, so now you can tell me. You suck. France. Oh, France. Oui, oui, oui, bonjour. You go to Nice. Cammy Central Pay. I used cucumber. She wasn't French. I know.
SPEAKER_01Ilaria.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's exciting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, if we can make it happen, because the French Open is something that my man has benign, and I know you roll your eyes, but the Australian Open was like the most fun time ever. I support you. So that's something that we can do, and then you know, maybe perhaps venture on to the French countryside, and then maybe venture on to the French Riviera and you know the time of our line. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's where the open is. That's where the test is. You're gonna go to Disneyland Paris on my behalf? No, that's not gonna make a cut.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_01I don't have all day. I don't have all all year. Guess not. So yeah, now it's time to save the money. Save the money, honey. That's very exciting. Yeah? Are you jealous because now you'll never have a vacation again?
SPEAKER_03I have um there there will be grandparents that I can leave that kid with.
SPEAKER_01Who are so confident that they'll just be happy to take him with open arms.
SPEAKER_03Yes, my mother-in-law has said it multiple times.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's um gives me hope because then we can still vacation together. We could do like a couple's trip.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That would be bomb.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Do you think that you'll be ready to leave him with the grandparents by like May or June? No. Okay, so maybe next year. Yeah. Okay. All right. Shall we talk about what really matters here? Where would you like to begin? Well, I think we should begin with the traitors.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Obviously.
SPEAKER_03Once again, we're gonna spoil.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that goes without saying. I think we need to start with Michael. Bye.
SPEAKER_03Bye pitch follow. Bye pitch follow. But I will say part of this might be controversial, but when he said you're good at keeping a secret, I don't think it occurred to him for one second that he was a closeted gay.
SPEAKER_01I disagree because why did he say 29 years? You kept a secret for 29 years. What else could he have been referring to? Did he say that? I missed that part. Yes, he said, who else knows better than how to keep a secret? You kept a secret for 29 years. Oh, that was very specifically. I didn't catch that thing.
SPEAKER_03I take everything I said, but roll it back in.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, to try to spin that in any other way of like I didn't know what I was, I wouldn't mean it like how else could you have possibly meant it? Yeah. He was giving Trump, honestly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And what he was saying was unacceptable. I did have to laugh when he kept calling that K-pop guy the man with the magic ears. Was he just saying that because they were big?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01Because remember, he said that, like I when I was out there in the woods, I heard a laugh of a traitor, and I know exactly who's because because you know I would listen, I do music and I hear things, listen to things for a living. I thought he was saying it because his ears are large. Wow, you were like not on the same planet as me when we were watching. I've been sick.
SPEAKER_03I was watching it through fog.
SPEAKER_01But doesn't that make it funnier? Says the man with the magic ears.
SPEAKER_03I think it's funnier if it's because they're big.
SPEAKER_01No, that's rude. Yeah. Uh Rob, we thought you were one of us. You're not one of us. You can't sit with us. And as Johnny Weir said, I want you out of my castle.
SPEAKER_03And he is gone. So there's I also found the way he ate dinner really disturbing with the plate half in the mouth.
SPEAKER_01I saw that after the fact. I didn't see that live. I don't know what happened to me.
SPEAKER_03Really not good.
SPEAKER_01Because I only saw him eating that vegetable dinner. Remember, he's like, I'm just trying to eat my vegetable dinner.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01I think the other big standout moment slash star was Rob. When he was telling Michael the meaning of commiserate in those overalls, in the overalls, I really think like an internet viral meme star was born. I loved it. I loved it too. And like just the overalls were the cherry on top. And like when he picked Mora up and threw her over his shoulder, like I think we all wanted to be Mora in that moment.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you clock when Alan said that Dorinda hasn't had a ride? It should have been Dorinda. She hasn't had a ride in a while. And then he looked at the camera for so long.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Alan's hilarious. Deserves every Emmy.
SPEAKER_01He does. And I know like a lot of this stuff is scripted, but still he has to memorize it all or like, you know, act like he's not reading off a prompt or somewhere. Deliver it well. Yeah, he's killer. So yeah, I think Rob, I went from not really caring about him to I like him now.
SPEAKER_03I'm just enjoying all of it. I I mean, how do we feel about the fact that Colton at the end is kind of on to Lisa a little bit? He must go. Yeah, but won't it be obvious? Yes.
SPEAKER_01But they are gonna kill the risk. Didn't they decide to kill Colton? How did it end? They we don't know who they killed. Or they wanted to kill Colton, yeah. Um, what did you think about them murdering Carolyn Stanberry?
SPEAKER_03I didn't care about that.
SPEAKER_01I did like it when she said to Lisa, like, I'm sure I'll see you outside of here, like at BravoCon or something.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but why did Lisa feel the need to be like, no? No, you won't. But she's playing the part. I guess.
SPEAKER_01I loved it. Like, and I think that like Colton being onto her, like, okay, I know her breakfast reactions are over the top. But that's who she is. If you know her, you know her reactions are always over the top. And that's why we love like those cringe over-the-top reactions have been filling us with delight for years.
SPEAKER_03The Dorinda should have said that because Dorinda knows that.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Cause but it is true she's not quiet.
SPEAKER_03No, she's not.
SPEAKER_01Like at the round table, it is weird that she's being quiet.
SPEAKER_03It is.
SPEAKER_01I mean, this is the girl who said to Eileen Davidson, were people doing coke in your bathroom? I think she said that to Dorite. You're right. And then she said to Denise, oof, you're so angry. You're so angry. Like these, like this is that's that Lisa did not, it's not here, and we know why, because she's a traitor, sh, but she's gonna channel like a little bit of inner arena and you know, balance it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I'm hoping for the best for her. I wish she would get her shit together. I would like to thank Ron because as much as Rob has grown in my eyes, Rob Ron has faded because of the way he talked to our girl Dorinda.
SPEAKER_03That his attitude was crazy to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like why are you taking this so seriously? It's a game. Like to say I don't fucking care about your family. That's that I was just like so unnecessary. And he's such like a gentle creature.
SPEAKER_03Like apparently not.
SPEAKER_01What was that?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Whatever it was, I'm glad because like I was feeling bad for him for always being on the chopping block.
SPEAKER_03I turned on him in a big way.
SPEAKER_01Me too. Like, I literally, like, Ron and Rob switched spots in my heart. Bye. I do wish Jorinda were drinking. I'm sorry. Or at least drinking more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, drink more.
SPEAKER_01Is that bad to say?
SPEAKER_03That's how we want our housewives.
SPEAKER_01Liquored up. If if Ron had come after her in one like in her usual state, what we would have is reality TB gold. I know. The RIP to that. What did you think about the idea of they take a shield? If they don't take if no one takes a shield, everyone's safe from murder. Would you take a shield?
SPEAKER_03Am I a faithful or a traitor in this scenario?
SPEAKER_01A faithful. No. I would. Why? Because when you're faithful, you don't want faithfuls to get banished, but you do want them to get murdered because then there's less of them to split the prize pot with.
SPEAKER_03I guess that's true. But I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to get caught. I'm just chicken.
SPEAKER_01No, that's true. That's true. But I could I could definitely understand the risks.
SPEAKER_03I personally wouldn't be able to do it.
SPEAKER_01Or the reward, I should say.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Anyway. 10 out of 10. No notes. Loving it. Next week we're going back to the scary cabin.
SPEAKER_03I fell asleep during part of the last episode, so I got to go back and experience it for a second time, which was great.
SPEAKER_01Lucky lucky. I know. Otherwise, yeah. Do you want to talk about Ultimate Girls Trip real quick? Well, yeah. Or do you have more traders?
SPEAKER_03No, I don't have more traders.
SPEAKER_01So the cast was revealed. We have Portia Williams from Atlanta, Luanne Dalis Ubbs from New York City, Kyle Richards from Beverly Hills, Giselle Bryant from Potomac, Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City, and Vicky Gumpleson from Orange County, and Teresa Judy Judece. Judy Judece. Either way. From New Jersey.
SPEAKER_03So almost all OGs.
SPEAKER_01But almost all people who have been on a girls' trip together before.
SPEAKER_03Allegedly, there's gonna be it's that's the core cast, and there's like a much larger breadth of people, including one Nini Leaks, that will be featured.
SPEAKER_01Yes, how do you feel about the Nene of it all after all suing roll and such?
SPEAKER_03I love Nene.
SPEAKER_01But she's only coming back for like such a tiny amount for probably just a little cameo, but I guess that's I hope this opens the door.
SPEAKER_03I hope this opens the door to something more because I don't know. The last season of Atlanta was like fine, but I've never understood why we couldn't figure it out with Nene.
SPEAKER_01It seems like there's gonna be one person from almost every franchise, which is interesting because last time, or usually they cast them with like a buddy.
SPEAKER_03So I thought a couple things were interesting. There's no representation from Miami. And there's no representation from Rhode Island, which will be airing at this time, I assume.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think that's okay.
SPEAKER_03Are they gonna include Miami and Rhode Island in this house?
SPEAKER_01It's a road trip. So I think they're gonna go to all the cities and see everyone.
SPEAKER_03Is Dubai gonna get included?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Is DC gonna get included?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Is Dallas gonna get included? I I would prefer we include Dallas.
SPEAKER_01I think that Dallas is something that they'd like to forget. Ever happened.
SPEAKER_03We can't we can't because there was so much good stuff.
SPEAKER_01We have to acknowledge history, even the dogs.
SPEAKER_03Dallas had many good seasons. There was some rough stuff for sure, but Dallas also gave us a lot of fun. So if we just completely ignore Dallas, I'll I'll be a little annoyed.
SPEAKER_01I we'll see. I just I wish the core cast was I wish Kyle Richards honestly is is the one that really grinds Mike Gears because she is a nothing burger in that situation. Dorit Erica Jane? No, not Erica Jane. Honestly, Lisa Rena.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Lisa Vanderpump?
SPEAKER_01No, she wouldn't do it.
SPEAKER_03Camille?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sure, sure. Honestly, anyone but Kyle.
SPEAKER_03Was Camille on the Morocco trip?
SPEAKER_01Sutton. Sutton.
SPEAKER_03Sutton. Okay, yes, sure. But was Camille on the Morocco trip?
SPEAKER_01I believe she was the Morocco girls trip that will never see the light of day, ever.
SPEAKER_03If I had a genie lamp and they only could give me one wish, I know it's.
SPEAKER_01I sure hope that's not it.
SPEAKER_03It would be that. I want to see the.
SPEAKER_01You could do a lot more good. You could help people.
SPEAKER_03I just really want to see it. What's it gonna tell like what could I ever possibly do to get eyes on that?
SPEAKER_01You know. Maybe someday one of us will know someone who works at Bravo and can get us the footage. Maybe we plan a heist, like the Louvre heist, we plan like a heist into the Bravo headquarters.
SPEAKER_03To the NBC universe.
SPEAKER_01Uni headquarters, and we steal the footage.
SPEAKER_03We do know somebody with an in an NBC.
SPEAKER_01I think it's gonna take a little more than that, but sure. You can dig up there. It's a good place to start.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Anyway, um speaking of Bravo, I said this was gonna be my Mat Leaf journey, but I've actually started it during my sick time. And I am now I am four seasons deep into Shaws of Sunset. Four I've in one week?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03It's been a week. I'm telling you, I have been down for the count. There is, I could have done because also my husband was gone on a work trip. So I was literally by myself with the flu on the couch all day, every day.
SPEAKER_01Is it good? I mean, I guess it must be good if it's kept you for four seasons. Shaws of Sunset we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Is it like as good as Vanderpump? Like, where does it fall? Uh I don't know. Vanderpump's obviously the top.
SPEAKER_03I wouldn't say that it's as good as Vanderpump, but it just goes down really easy.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Kind of like Beverly Hills.
SPEAKER_03Like a lot of the things on Bravo.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's not like that ringing of an endorsement, I gotta say.
SPEAKER_03If it was on week to week, I don't know that I'd be like waiting with bated breath for the next episode. It's like nice that I can just roll right into the next one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You're not like filled with glee like when we sit down to watch Salt Lake City.
SPEAKER_03No. Which but some of the characters are really funny. Like Merced is hilarious, especially in the early seasons. Her hair is like never not a mess.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_03I really like Reza. Gigi is terrifying in so many ways. There's this character Asa, I didn't know about who's with Jermaine Jackson Jr. And has a lot of money, and I couldn't figure out why, so I Googled it, and apparently she has like a really rich ex husband that they never mention. And that's why she won't marry Jermaine, is because she gets really good alimony. So, you know. Interesting stuff. I'll learn a lot about the Persian culture. We do have a Persian friend though, so a lot of it um I I recognize like saying like res a joon, you know, as you found. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, I like it.
SPEAKER_01Cool. Well good. I'm glad that you're f you found a journey that you like that to get you through your trying time. Thank you. Your sick bed. Should we talk about Potomac? I think we should talk about Salt Lake City because Potomac was actually like really good, I thought.
SPEAKER_03I don't know if I'd say it was really good.
SPEAKER_01But we can talk about Solicity City.
SPEAKER_03We can talk about Sol Lake.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Because the first part of the reunion was kind of like a nothing burger.
SPEAKER_01I had nothing. The only thing that I really thought was, Angie, I'm disappointed you brought out a scroll. I expected more from you than to do the scroll stunt again when it barely landed the first time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, same. And and what was funny to me though is that Meredith and Lisa are so living in delusion of like, we don't tag team, and yet the whole time they're tag teaming.
SPEAKER_01They're whispering to each other the whole time.
SPEAKER_03Lisa asking Meredith, did I miss anything? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like that's like tag teaming. They literally like probably rehearsed to each other like in the weeks leading up. Do they think we're idiots as the audience? I mean, we just don't understand. Lisa does big things. She met Ben Affleck in 2019. Okay.
SPEAKER_03She took Heather to party with Daniel Radcliffe, okay?
SPEAKER_01Duh. Heather I thought looked really good.
SPEAKER_03In that picture?
SPEAKER_01No, if at the reunion.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, I was about to say they did her so dirty with that picture.
SPEAKER_01That's what she looked like then.
SPEAKER_03I think Angie looks the best.
SPEAKER_01I think her outfit's more boring. I think Heather's is more exciting, and I like her hair, and I like her cape.
SPEAKER_03Really, I think it's kind of all matronly. It's giving Mother of the Bride to me.
SPEAKER_01Oh damn, a mother of the bride would not wear a cape.
SPEAKER_03That's not necessarily true.
SPEAKER_01Damn. Well now I can't unsee that. Alright, I'm gonna come back with a new best dress after next week.
SPEAKER_03It's Angie, she's flawless.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, we didn't get much, but it was still good. Yeah. That's my very um unique original take.
SPEAKER_03Do you want to go to Beverly Hills?
SPEAKER_01Yes. So ladies are in Sedona.
SPEAKER_03We're in Sedona. A hike happens. Did you see that it was like 102 degrees? Yes. How did they do that? I wouldn't even be able to walk outside the door. Couldn't be me. I would not be in the group on the hike. I'll tell you that right now.
SPEAKER_01It sucks because I would love to do that hike. I would love it, but it's gotta be at least 30 degrees cooler.
SPEAKER_03Minimum.
SPEAKER_01Min 72.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm not I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_01I always like have been showing that clip of Jennifer Tilly like climbing and puffing and puffing. The fact that she made it to the top, the fact that any of them made it to the top, and they seemed mostly unfazed.
SPEAKER_03I think the heat was. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That wasn't a plot point.
SPEAKER_03They seemed unbothered. I was just, I was confused, honestly.
SPEAKER_01I was stunned. I was stunned. Otherwise, uh the other girls went shopping. What did you think of Kyle's turquoise purchase? She brought a matching set of a necklace, a ring, and earrings.
SPEAKER_03Just felt very her.
SPEAKER_01I thought they were disgusting.
SPEAKER_03But she bought that at the second shopping trip.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03Because Kyle was on the hike.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that's right. But does it really matter?
SPEAKER_03No, you know, I really can't stand Amanda. That girl's gotta go.
SPEAKER_01No, we need her. We need a foil. Every good story needs a foil.
SPEAKER_03I was laughing when Bose in her confessional was like, quit trying to act like you're so busy in the car in front of me. Oh, I know. Because it's so accurate, and we all know somebody have been around somebody who's like so busy with work. It's like get over yourself. You're really not.
SPEAKER_01When she asked Sutton at the dinner table, do you cry often? Oof. I would, if somebody ever said that to me, I would never speak to them again. I would never even acknowledge their existence. I just I would be like, I do actually, yeah. I would just, and Sutton just looked at her and just gave her a look like, don't do this.
SPEAKER_03What do you think of Sutton's behavior in general?
SPEAKER_01Well, Jennifer Tilley says she snaps at people too much. She says she's trying to be better.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't seem well, maybe she's trying to be better with everybody but Jennifer because she does snap at Jennifer a lot.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think you know, you you feel safer around the people you're closest to that that you can that they'll come back to you. You know what I mean? Like that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03Can't always rely on that. They might not.
SPEAKER_01Well, I know, and she's might have to learn that the hard way, but it's easier to feel more comfortable with people that that you've known for a long time. I mean they're like practically sisters, you know.
SPEAKER_03I suppose.
SPEAKER_01I know you would have been mad that Sutton was did not start making the chicken until after 11 o'clock at night. The protein.
SPEAKER_03I'd be like, what are we what are we doing? Are we eating? Are we not eating? I would mean if if I were there, that shit would have been started so long ago. I wouldn't have waited for any of those bitches. I would have made the whole dinner by myself. Forget it. Fuck you all. Go sit down, I'll tell you when it's ready.
SPEAKER_01I really don't know why no one else could have made the chicken, and then if she got mad, just say, I'm sorry, we were very hungry. It's a level because they don't eat, so they don't care. That's true.
SPEAKER_03It's just for the show.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Anyway, it was a it was a mildly good episode. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't like anything triumph about like the rest of the season so far.
SPEAKER_03I'm actually enjoying the season.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm curious to see where we go with Sutton, who thinks that she's turning a new leaf, but clearly is not. And you know, I like Rachel Zoe in the mix. She's fun.
SPEAKER_01I like Bo's. You know who I don't miss at all? Crystal.
SPEAKER_03Garcelle. No, I didn't even I didn't like Garcelle.
SPEAKER_01I liked her at the beginning, but by the end, she just She became insufferable. And her energy she just brought nothing. It's just sad, sad to see the turn because she's had such a strong start, and I really did love her. Yeah, me too. So now I think honestly, I think the best housewives episode of the week.
SPEAKER_03I can't believe. But you know, it is like the Do you disagree? You agree with me though, right? Yeah, but it's like the craziest trip we've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01It's bananas. It's it was awesome. And it's all because these ladies are put in the most uncomfortable accommodations.
SPEAKER_03To me, it's like the house with the single bed without an attached bathroom. To me, as like a normal civilian, is not the end of the world. But the water situation is running water. Yeah, that's unacceptable.
SPEAKER_01We learned that Giselle and Ashley poop multiple times a day, which you know made me feel bad that I Good for them. They're regular ladies. And you can't poop multiple times a day if you don't got enough water. Nope. I thought it was funny that Kay was crying over and over again. Like the altitude was just making her cry for no reason.
SPEAKER_03She was not well.
SPEAKER_01I like I liked it. And then like the visual of all the ladies like doing this, like what was it, like yoga or meditation or something? They're all on the floor, and she's just like sitting on a utility box, like trying to do the same thing, like with her 10-gallon hat. Like that visual just like sums up who she is as a person.
SPEAKER_03I want to correct myself because last week on the podcast I called her Angela the whole time. Her name is Angel. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01I it's okay. I mean, I call her Angela sometimes too.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, I just feel like she's so punchable to me. Everything about her, I just her reactions, her responses, her facial expressions. I just want to punch her in the face. That stupid ass hat. The hat. But you know what? I like it.
SPEAKER_01I like having someone that I want to punch.
SPEAKER_03And when they asked her to come for a sleepover, it's not weird to have to check with your spouse. That's not weird. But what is weird is that she then goes to her spouse and goes, my god, so you totally don't want me to go, right? And he's like, Oh no, fuck.
SPEAKER_01We've all been there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And he's like, You seem like you don't want to go. And she's like, I knew, I knew you wouldn't want me to go. I knew it. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01She was caught on camera.
SPEAKER_03And he did her no favors. He was not picking up what she was putting down. Nope.
SPEAKER_01Which was amazing. Like he honestly seems like he couldn't be less interested in her in general.
SPEAKER_03Agreed. And there have been many a husband in that boat.
SPEAKER_01Like Charles.
SPEAKER_03Like Charles and Angela. Actual Angela.
SPEAKER_01You know, I love Charles. What did you think about the random guys that were just like sitting around ignoring them? Like Stacy compared it to get out. Like, what are all these random guys doing this?
SPEAKER_03The whole thing gave me bad vibes too. If I were on the trip, I'd be like, I can't be here.
SPEAKER_01Like Angels introducing all these men to them, and the men aren't even like moving. It's like, do we all see like, do you see these ladies? Like, what are you in a trance?
SPEAKER_03I don't like it. It there was one time in my youth I went to a sleepover and it had similar bad vibes. And I called mom to come get me because I was very uncomfortable in that situation.
SPEAKER_01You didn't want random men in your vicinity, but not acknowledging you.
unknownCool.
SPEAKER_01You were a child.
SPEAKER_03A lot of random people in the vicinity not acknowledging the fact that a full-on sleepover was happening. And there was like adult things on the TV, whatever. There's like a lot of there's a lot more to it, but I just it it gave me similar vibes watching that as I had it at sleepover. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But you know what? To me, this the this the setting was beautiful, the food looked delicious. Like, I think I could look past the men the weird men.
SPEAKER_03What about the fact that Angel was like, okay, now bye, everybody, get out.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, I love how Giselle's like, okay, what are we gonna do now? Or what's next? And she's like, nothing. That that would be you though. Yeah. You'd want everyone off your property. Yeah. I love how she always calls it my property.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's a lot of land, so that's probably why.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but we know who bought the property and it wasn't her. Okay. Yeah. It's not your property. You can just say the property. How about that? Like that that bugs me.
SPEAKER_03Well, she is partial owner. I mean, they're married. But it wasn't her money. Right, but if they were married when they bought it, it is her property.
SPEAKER_01I guess. But she did nothing to earn it.
SPEAKER_03You don't know that.
SPEAKER_01On that note, should we go to the 90-day universe?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Speaking of what people will do for money. Oh my god. Green cards. Let's just get let's just get the other way out of the way. Alright. So Manon had a panic attack. But I also think maybe she couldn't breathe because she was pushing a stroller up a really steep hill. A pacoblestone steep hill. Which would really get me out of breath.
SPEAKER_01I think it was a bad mixture. She couldn't breathe because the panic was setting in. She lived in a town with one sad chocolateer, a chocolate, a chocolate chocolatory. Chocolatory. That only sold sad-looking chocolate chickens.
SPEAKER_03And a hairdresser.
SPEAKER_01And a hairdresser.
SPEAKER_03The town doesn't even have a pharmacy. No pharmaceutic. The fact that she was getting so hung up on a pharmacy, I'm like, how about a bar? How about a restaurant? That's what I would be hung up on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, nothing. Like, how does this chocolate chicken lady make any money in this godforsaken town?
SPEAKER_03And when they kept saying, like, oh, everything's in the town over, like, what if it's like right there right there?
SPEAKER_01But if she doesn't have a car and she has to take a baby on a bus. Like, that's an ordeal that I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03So then why don't you drop your husband off at work, have the car for the day, and then pick him up? Well, maybe that's something they need to discuss, but I would but it didn't seem like she was willing to discuss shit. It seemed like she just had one day and said, I'm out.
SPEAKER_01I mean, yeah, they literally just bought this house to move again, would be they don't have the m they can't afford to move again.
SPEAKER_03When all of this was like her decision.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And the way she looked at him and said, Find another job.
SPEAKER_03Like you have to I was like, this bitch is delusional.
SPEAKER_01You have to try to stick it out for more than one day. You have to. She's delusional. Like the people that want to quit something after one day could never be me. I'm sorry. I'm just like not a quitter like that.
SPEAKER_03But I just like don't have any sympathy for her because they put themselves in this position when none of it was necessary.
SPEAKER_01And this man worked all day. He comes home visibly exhausted. She said he looks exhausted. He still manages to stop and get flowers for her. And you know, knowing that she probably had a hard day too, her first day, all alone in this godforsaken village with Ben, baby Ben. And he got her flower. He was thinking of her. Like that really should have said something to her. Like, she's terrible. I will, I will, you know, as she said to Ben, I'm not made for this. Like, I'm not made for that either.
SPEAKER_03But then why didn't you look at the town for five seconds before you bought a house? That's fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's crazy. To not know that there were no redeeming qualities. Like you can't survive on chocolate chickens. You just can't.
SPEAKER_03I could.
SPEAKER_01And something was wrong with them. Like they were not right. Those chickens were not right, you have to admit.
SPEAKER_03I feel I would thrive on chocolate chickens.
SPEAKER_01And she brought Antony back a broken chicken. He brought her a bouquet of flowers and she brought back a dropped chicken. She couldn't help it. It was hard to hold everything. She wasn't, she's not made for that.
SPEAKER_03She's have what I thought was so funny is that she's having this whole panic attack meltdown. Ben's just sitting there. I know!
SPEAKER_01Waiting, chilling. Ben is not like a good reader of energy, it seems. He's unbothered. Which is good.
SPEAKER_03If he's a good reader of his mother's energy, then he'll be never not stressed.
SPEAKER_01I know, that's what I mean. It's a it's a good thing that he doesn't have that trait. Because remember how she said when she was a kid she was like always worried about money. And if he's ignorant of all this drama, all the better for baby Ben. God bless. And then we had um the British guy and Greta, who was over for good.
SPEAKER_03Unnecessary conversation, but glad it's had, I guess.
SPEAKER_01And we wish them both the best.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01Then we had Jenny and Samit, who Summit's mom is so sick of their shit, she had to take to the bed.
SPEAKER_03Speaking of delusional, though, for Jenny to scream at Summit that she can't do it and they're moving out. I I just pose the question again: where are you going and with what money?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because she said like her life sucks, and if he can't move out with her, she's gonna move out alone. I would I would love to watch her do that and see what she's got up her sleeve.
SPEAKER_03He's like, our life doesn't suck. It does in fact look like it sucks. I will agree with her that it does in fact look terrible, but you don't have a lot of other options.
SPEAKER_01No, because she's so lazy, like she wants to move out with what money? She's not making money, she can't even fucking be a c a cafe uh cashier. Barista. She can't even man the cash register. Nope. She can't man the coffee machine either, you're right. She can't man shit. So, like, I don't know how she made it to her 60s, honestly, in this life.
SPEAKER_03She's pushing 70.
SPEAKER_01I think she's 67. How? And how did she raise children? Like, like, can you she literally can't do anything? She cannot do anything except for complain.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, and a lot of her complaints, like, I are they're valid. Like, I don't want to live somewhere where I can't sit with my bra off and like do whatever I want at the age of 67. Yes, true, valid, but you've gotten yourself in this predicament.
SPEAKER_01You married a guy who lived in India, so you can't, you know, a place where you don't speak the language, and you you can't hold a job because you suck.
SPEAKER_03She's been there for so long, there's no reason she can't speak the language, other than that she never has tried.
SPEAKER_01She she hasn't tried to do anything. No, so holding a job there is even harder than holding a job in America, which I'd still like to see her try. She married a whimsical man who kept getting fired from his jobs, like he didn't have a solid career path. Like, this is what you got yourself into, woman. Yeah, she's the dumbest woman alive. I'm sorry. Yep. The only woman dumber might be Aviva from the other 90 day show that we're watching right now. Oh my god. Brocks for brains. Should we shall we just go right there? So before the 90 days.
SPEAKER_03Well, we can just start with Aviva and Stig continues to want to breed her.
SPEAKER_01Stig, yeah. He he wants to breed her. Would I breed you? Yes, I would.
SPEAKER_03Well, they had unprotected sex, so maybe he did. I think she's pregnant.
SPEAKER_01Why would she want to get knocked up by this man in a foreign country? He doesn't even live in America.
SPEAKER_03I think she's pregnant in her talking heads. Her face looks really puffy. Those sh the outfit is trying to be deceptive, I feel.
SPEAKER_01But you don't your face doesn't look puppy, and you're very pregnant.
SPEAKER_03I just think that she is.
SPEAKER_01You're as pregnant as they come.
SPEAKER_03I am. But I just think she is.
SPEAKER_01You think she's pregnant? She is so beautiful. Why is she throwing her life away like this?
SPEAKER_03She's also so stupid.
SPEAKER_01We knew she was the dumbest person alive when she brought uh firecracker shrimp from Panda Express to where does he live? Where are they? No. Belize. Her bringing firecracker shrimp on a plane to Belize was our indicator of this woman is the stupidest woman alive. Second to Jenny. Getting pregnant by this Belizean pop star, rap star, singer.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm still curious as to where Aunt Spring is.
SPEAKER_01Her Aunt Spring, who also, you know, has contacts in Belize. Yeah, and her ponytail. Yeah, we haven't seen her since episode one. She's in America still, but I think she's gonna come. And I need more of her. I'm sure we'll see her soon.
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, aside from the fact that they had unprotected sex, she goes to the studio and then his friends are trying to sabotage.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_03Like they are saboteurs.
SPEAKER_01Because they don't want him to settle down. They want him to be, you know, going out with them and I think that's rude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03People are rude. And she fell right for it.
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_03And then after saying that she won't be jealous. She's not the jealous type, she goes to the show and immediately gets jealous.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Because he's a Belizean superstar.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, obviously.
SPEAKER_01He gets recognized at least once a week.
SPEAKER_03By one dude at one place. At the airport.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. One time a week. So I mean, I can understand why she's threatened.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely. Um, okay, let's just get like the d disgustingness of Lisa and Daniel over with.
SPEAKER_01Oh, so she agrees to marry him, even though she swore to her daughter that she was. Shocked. Who's surprised? Does not give a fuck about her daughter. Nope. So their second face, these two.
SPEAKER_03In in the the back of the taxi, his tongue is fully out of his mouth. I saw it all, and it was disgusting.
SPEAKER_01He's tongue first, he leads with tongue. But in a surprising turn of events, as soon as they get back to the hotel, he's not interested in her sexually at all. Zero. What do you think that was about? I honestly have no idea. Because how can you suck face like that and just go from a hundred to zero?
SPEAKER_03I did feel I hate that she made me feel bad for her. Because I don't want to. But I did feel a little bad for her when she's like, is it because he saw me in my lingerie? Like, that's now she feels worried. She's a woman in her sixties.
SPEAKER_01I know, but of course it's confusing. I think he stopped kissing her before the lingerie. Maybe it was like right when they got back to the hotel room. But either way, she needs a wake-up call. She's an elder and he is a 30-something year old man. Like, he's not the chances are he probably won't be physically attracted to you. Like, what do you think happening here?
SPEAKER_03I don't understand what's happening.
SPEAKER_01I can't put that together. Like, I really can't. But I do think in a scene coming up, she would she does confront him about not being able to get it up. Get it up. So I guess we'll see. Speaking of disgusting sex details, I mean, if you weren't vomiting in your mouth at the thought of Lisa and whatever that guy's name is, we have Rick and Trish who say something. Oh my god. They share a detail about her. She admits it on camera. I can't even repeat it here. I cannot repeat it here on this pod. We mark every episode as explicit. I don't want to say I can't say it. And like she said it on camera. Like, can you imagine like even if it the show is fake, to say those words on national television for all to see and know about you? I would sooner die. I would kill myself.
SPEAKER_03So she produces liquid. I'm just that she produces extra liquid at certain points of time in their intimacy. And he gets a garbage bag to put on the bed. I think it was like a tarp. It didn't look tarp tarp-esque, you know, like my many years of watching Survivor. I'm like, they would be competing for that to put over their shelter. So he's like he would it it it I feel like he's humiliating her by having that, but she also did fully admit it. She said it right to the camera in an interview. I know.
SPEAKER_01So that's why it's like no shame in her game, which is stunning.
SPEAKER_03But what is but what he should have shame about is his cheap assness. Like when she's like, I don't want to use this plastic tarp, and he's like, Well, are you gonna pay for the sheets? It's like, what is wrong with you, sir? Why is that your first thought?
SPEAKER_01Also, I'm sure those sheets have seemed much worse.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_01So, I mean, I don't know. I don't I can't say anything more about that, other than that he's a gaslighter.
SPEAKER_03More gaslighting, more trying to just like dig and justify so that when he tells her that he cheated. It doesn't seem bad.
SPEAKER_01But so he's making around it. Yeah, he's gaslighting her, making you know, saying that she cheated and she clearly didn't. All signs point to not cheating, but he yeah, he's setting he's trying to set her up.
SPEAKER_03He makes her show it her show him her phone.
SPEAKER_01And she does.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because she has nothing to hide. This fucking loser, he's such a loser.
SPEAKER_01Meanwhile, he isn't even hinting at like this this whole I cheated multiple times. I flew on a point.
SPEAKER_03She kind of clocks it in her in one of her confessionals. She says, you know, my ex who was cheating on me a bunch used to act exactly this way. So maybe she's starting to like her spidey sense is tingling.
SPEAKER_01Man, I hope that she's smarter than all the other women on this show. Me too. And gets out of there. It just sucks because like he had everything going for him. He was so smiley, he was a tap dancer. Part-time. He was a gap-toothed, smiley, kind-eyed man.
SPEAKER_03Who is actually terrible?
SPEAKER_01He's actually a monster, and that just shows like monsters come in all forms. Even tap dancers can be monsters.
SPEAKER_03Truly. So then we have Laura and Beer Can, who we now know what sort of debt he's working with. $50,000 US. I is it bad that my immediate thought was like that's not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Oh, I thought that was really bad. Maybe because you're rich. No, I'm not. That's not like that would be a lot of debt, I understand. But I thought just like the way they were building it up, I thought he was gonna come out with like 250k.
SPEAKER_01But like 50,000 in debt, even so, like, how do you ever get out of that?
SPEAKER_03You marry an American and then you skip town and according to him, yeah, that's you flee the country.
SPEAKER_01Just flee. When in one in debt, flee. Yeah. And then he said that he was worried about like how when she would found out how he made money when he's not working. Like, what does that mean? What does he do?
SPEAKER_03I mean, it's gotta be OnlyFans, right?
SPEAKER_01Or is it like drug dealing? Gambling. We also skipped right past all their gross details of after she was insecure about her plastic surgery consultation, he told her how much he showed her how much he loved her twice.
SPEAKER_03Yep, that's that's about the extent of the information I needed.
SPEAKER_01And that he has a big pain.
SPEAKER_03Didn't need that, but that's why I'm thinking OnlyFans. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01All right, well it'll be interesting to see if you're right.
SPEAKER_03But if I am right, why isn't he paying it down?
SPEAKER_01That's true. Well, maybe it was more, maybe it was 100k before.
SPEAKER_03Like where if he is making money, where's it going? Because he doesn't have a home. A home, he's still got all this debt, yeah. So I'm confused. And Laura is wisely thinking, are you just trying to use me to get out of here to run from your debt? And the answer is yes.
SPEAKER_01What a concept.
SPEAKER_03Who are we missing anybody?
SPEAKER_01Yes, we're missing the couple that duped us.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I did share with you, I found that on the interwebs this week.
SPEAKER_01Forrest and Sheena, the sweetest couple. We've actually met.
SPEAKER_03They met in 2019.
SPEAKER_01Why wouldn't they just tell us that? We've met before. I'm still interested in them. I don't know. Did he meet her parents before, too?
SPEAKER_03I don't know, but he's gonna meet them next week. Watching them shove themselves into those methods of public transportation was comical.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're not small people.
SPEAKER_03I'm bummed that they're not gonna make um Molly do it. They're gonna get her a car. I know that's probably for the best, but like I would love to watch her attempt.
SPEAKER_01That poor little boy who had to like sit cheek to cheek with Forrest on the bus. Maybe that they're used to that.
SPEAKER_03So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what will come of the information that we all found online this week, but I need answers some way somehow.
SPEAKER_01Like somebody take to Instagram. You know we can't count on it at the reunion.
SPEAKER_03I'm you well, Sean Robinson can't solve anything.
SPEAKER_01Not today.
SPEAKER_03But I'm still interested in their storyline. I still think they're a love story for a time.
SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna pretend that I didn't know that. Okay. Okay, do you want a quick roundup of 90-day fiance? It's just two people that I have to report on. Diaries? Yes, 90-day diaries.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01So Tiffany was gonna propose to her Irish man, Ronnie. He was gonna come visit for three months. She bought the ring that she was gonna propose to him with it, had Tao engraved inside. She was gonna play him a song. She said play him a song, so maybe she wasn't gonna sing it. So the day he gets there, sh she's gonna take him to dinner and do it. But before she can, he says, I need to go back to Ireland in two weeks instead of three months because my dad is retiring and I have the opportunity to take over his business. So, needless to say, she doesn't propose. And he says he wants to be with her forever. That's the plan, but he's got to go home and figure out this business. I don't know how you can run a business in Ireland and live with somebody in America, but that's a problem for another day. More interestingly, we got Josh of Vegas, of Josh and Natalie. So he's taking me to Viegas. To Vegas. I feel like it's an Italian when I do it. Yeah, I'm not great. So he actually has a 19-year-old son. He's 44 and he has a 19-year-old son. Both things shocked me. So his son in 2024 was in a car with his friend. They were coming back from a ski trip. Did you already know this? How'd you know all this?
SPEAKER_03They talked about it.
SPEAKER_01When? On what show?
SPEAKER_03On Couples Retreat, I think.
SPEAKER_01No way. Yeah. So he his friend crashed into a guardrail and died, and his son lost his leg. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_01That was stunning. I feel like I would have remembered that from Couples Retreat. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. So he's in a long-distance relationship with Libby's sister, Jen. Yes. He's in Phoenix, she's in Tampa. We find out he also dated her sister Becky. But it was more of just a physical thing. It never turned into anything.
SPEAKER_00Ew.
SPEAKER_01I know. I know. So Becky picks him up to take him to their date to drop her off with Jen. She's like, I'm doing my sister a favor, I'm picking you up. And it's just weird. Then they talk about how they dated. I don't like that. So he asks Jen if she wants to be more serious, and she says no. And he's shocked because, like, all girls want to be more serious with him. So what the hell? And that's it. That's all we got. Wow. So I was just stunned that he had a son that was 19 that lost a leg.
SPEAKER_03It was shocking. Yeah, when that came down.
SPEAKER_01It's not new news to you.
SPEAKER_03Well, we did get a trailer for the new single life, which is gonna have um Sophie, Vanya, Kimbali, unfortunately Gino, Cold and Courtney. Confused because I thought they were together.
SPEAKER_01As did I.
SPEAKER_03Uh Pedro, who, according to in the trailer, is dating Sophie. So I'm gonna watch the single life.
SPEAKER_01Okay, you take that journey and report back because I can't do it. I'll take I'll take that one on. Sophie is not interesting to me. Even with P even with a Pedro. She's interesting to me if she's dating Pedro. I'll take a I'll take a look at that. Will the family Sophie like Pedro more than the family Chantelle? What else? What else you got going on over there?
SPEAKER_03Um, you know, do you have tomorrow off?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Are you gonna rot tomorrow?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Did you rot this this day and and yesterday? Yesterday was a lot of football.
SPEAKER_01Sad results. Today we're having some friends over to watch more football, and then tomorrow we'll go to brunch and maybe do like a little hike. What about you?
SPEAKER_03I've been doing nothing but rotting all week because I've been on my deathbed. Yesterday I was productive building everything, and then today um we're gonna finish hanging up stuff in the nursery, and it's very exciting.
SPEAKER_01At least you have Shaws of Sunset.
SPEAKER_03You do. Anyway, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow, but um probably more rotting of more of this.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we have a it's actually I know it's Sunday, but we still have a whole other weekend day.
SPEAKER_03I'm so happy about it because I only have four work weeks left, and one of them is short. Wow.
SPEAKER_01So you really set yourself up for success.
SPEAKER_03Well, the first day of Matt Leave is President's Day, so I didn't set myself up for success.
SPEAKER_01Uh oh.
SPEAKER_03But still whatever.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, thanks for rotting with us. Thanks for rotting with us.