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Episode 24 - AP Lang Exam Preparation: Writing, Rhetoric, and Real-World Skills | Beth Hall, AP Lang Expert
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In this episode of the SupportED Learning Podcast, Dr. Joe Sebestyen sits down with Beth Hall, AP Lang teacher, AP Reader, College Board consultant, and creator of Coach Hall Writes, to explain how students can prepare for AP Lang without wasting time on the wrong strategies. Beth shares how her coaching background shaped her teaching philosophy: cut the fluff, focus on fundamentals, and help students master the skills that actually show up on the exam.
Dr. Joe Sebestyen and Beth Hall discuss the most important AP Lang skills, including academic writing voice, argument development, rhetorical analysis, synthesis, and using sources to support ideas instead of simply summarizing them. Beth also explains why AP Lang can be more rigorous than concurrent credit, how digital exams are changing preparation, and why students need to become more informed readers and citizens of the world.
This episode is especially useful for students preparing for AP Lang, parents trying to understand the value of AP English Language, and educators supporting students through AP exam season. Beth gives a clear, practical framework for improving writing, building confidence, and using AP Lang as preparation for college, career, and life.
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You're listening to the Support Ed Learning Podcast, where we challenge the status quo of education and reimagine what learning should be. I'm Dr. Joe Sebastian, and in every episode we dive into critical thinking, Bloom's taxonomy, educational innovation, and how AI is shaping the future of learning. Whether you're a teacher, parent, policymaker, or lifelong learner, you're in the right place to rethink, reshape, and revive education. Welcome back to the Supported Learning Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Joe Sebastian. You know, it is the mist of AP season right now. We are almost about nine weeks away from the AP exams. Kids are gonna start scrambling probably in another two weeks once we get past this SAT in March. And um, you know, I've had a lot of interest and a lot of people reach out. Once surprisingly, on the AP Lang exam, kids reaching out, haven't really got the necessary support in their classes, but I'm speaking to someone tonight who has grown an audience supporting specifically just that, and has incredible reach to literally thousands of families across the U.S. and helping students in AP English. And that's why I'm really, really excited to talk to Beth Hall tonight. Beth, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER_01I'm doing well, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the podcast. And uh how how is it down there in Arkansas, right?
SPEAKER_01Honestly, it's not so bad. We are having some interesting weather, but other than that, it is pretty good.
SPEAKER_00Awesome. That's good. Yeah, it's been back and forth cold and hot, and I hope I find I hope we're finally out of the but we're supposed to get some snow get up. I'm I'm I'm in Pittsburgh right now, so but Beth, you are, I think you're known in the space as like pretty much an expert on AP Lang. Uh, we talked to, I don't know if it's a colleague or rival, but the Garden of English, Mr. Tim, couple couple episodes back. Uh, but he definitely definitely needed talk to Beth Hall. So uh Beth, just tell me how you got you started in your journey in education. Uh, what first off made you interested in teaching in general, and then kind of like we'll we'll go from there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. So I am, I guess technically a third generation teacher because my grandma taught second grade and my mom taught a variety of grade levels, mostly secondary though. And so in high school, I had so many of my own teachers tell me you should be a teacher, mostly because I was a tutor for our high school, and I guess I was able to connect well with students, but I was so resistant to it. I wanted to go into creative writing and publishing. And then I realized in college that that actually wasn't going to work out the way I thought it would, and my heart really was into teaching. So I'm actually a non-traditional teacher, at least for Arkansas. So my degree is in English and creative writing, as is my master's. So I didn't do the traditional student teaching experience. I did a program like afterward, a two-year program where once you secure a job, you essentially go through these like summer courses and like weekend classes, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've actually been a I guess an adjunct professor to a program like that in Virginia where you have career switchers and you can get a provisional license in Virginia. It's accelerated. I come from another profession. So, okay. What was the switch in college that made you because like I actually had a similar journey to that of when I was a senior, I was like, there is no way I'll ever be back in a school. And now I've spent the last 16 years of my professional life in the schools. But like, what moment made you switch there?
SPEAKER_01I think part of it was that one of my jobs during college was I worked in our college's writing center, and I had a lot of students that were my regulars. And a lot of them, I believe, were actually some of our foreign exchange students and things like that. And one of the things that they told me as far as like why they would come to me specifically, is they said, you do a really good job of breaking it down for us in a way that's easy to understand. And you don't dumb it down to where we feel like we're, you know, silly for not knowing. You keep it like age appropriate and stuff and you make it simple. And I really found that interesting because I figured, you know what? I really like working with teenagers and I really like to talk about English and you know, novel studies. I love nonfiction, that's what AP Lang is, and other things. And so that was kind of the moment where I realized publishing really isn't for me. I would much rather be someone who is shaping young lives and helping people that like sort of aha moment where the light bulb turns on and it really clicks and they get it. I saw that a lot in the writing center in college, and I realized I wanted to have that as part of my teaching experience. I wanted to help people just have it click and gain that confidence in themselves.
SPEAKER_00When did um when did you start teaching AP Lang?
SPEAKER_01I started, let's see. So my very first year of teaching was 2014. Prior to that, the year before that, I actually did a Fulbright English teaching assistantship in South Africa for nine months. And so I taught in a high school there, and then for safety reasons, we were moved to Cape Town, which was great, except it was the winter, so it was super cold. And they didn't have a high school job there, so they stuck me with second grade, and I was not expecting that. But I really loved teaching abroad, and so when I came back stateside to Arkansas, I got a job teaching at a public school and I was teaching 10th grade English all day. And I really liked that. I think it was a great first-year teaching experience because there was a lot of continuity. And the next year, I was offered the opportunity to do what was then pre-AP because the test scores that my students had were pretty strong, and they were looking to challenge our pre-AP program a little bit and help those students as well. And then the year after that, I believe, is when I switched into AP Lang, and I had 80 students that first year because we didn't have AP lit that year. So I had a combination of juniors and seniors. So I was not only in my very first year teaching AP Lang, but I was also teaching four sections of it. So I was really thrown into it, but I absolutely loved it.
SPEAKER_00Okay. And um, I guess what was it like figuring out how to like hack that exam in terms of how to actually prepare for the rigors of the exam?
SPEAKER_01I think it was really interesting as a teacher to look at what students actually need to know to be successful. I was coaching high school soccer at the time. That's where the coach all comes from, is because I was coaching soccer as well. And that was one of the things about being a soccer coach, is I was definitely not the most experienced soccer coach out there by any means. But part of what I think made me successful with the athletes that I had is I was able to take the skills needed and figure out the simplest approach and just keep it simple, fundamentals, the basics. And I really applied that to AP Lang as well. Cutting the fluff, if you will, and just trying to figure out what actual skills do students need, not just for this exam, but for life in general. And I was a student too. Like I had to basically try to stay a day or more ahead of my own students at times. And so I definitely really liked the challenge because I think it was an opportunity for me to take what I loved. I loved just studying nonfiction in college and make it accessible to my students as well. So it was a really fun challenge because it was so new that even though I felt like it was daunting at times, I really enjoyed it because I felt like part of me was a student again, because I was having to figure out how do I do this? How do I get the results that I want?
SPEAKER_00So when did the collaboration with College Board come around?
SPEAKER_01That started probably around 2021. In 2020, during COVID, the college board did a survey, I guess, of teachers asking which resources were most helpful. And in the responses, they they got a lot of coach all rights and Garden of English. I had started making videos in 2019, so it was kind of new at the time. And so I think that was when I maybe got on the College Board's radar. And then about a year after that, in 2021, I was an AP reader for the first time. And I've been an AP reader since. And in I believe it was 2024, I became a College Board consultant. So that means that I go to different locations, typically in the summer, and I help other teachers learn about teaching AP Lang.
SPEAKER_00So are you training other teachers in AP Lang or are you collaborating on the exams or both?
SPEAKER_01So I have two separate roles. I am an AP reader, which means that I help score some of the responses. There are hundreds of us. I've actually made some really great AP Lang teacher friends who are fellow readers. And so that is one facet of what I do. And then there are a lot fewer consultants, and those are the people who are actually going through the frameworks and helping with advice and mentoring and just showing people the tips and tricks of the class.
SPEAKER_00So, what's that like to be, you know, kind of like collaborating with College Board, which I won't call the mother other name, but I the cartel of college. But they do, they control so much data and so much information, right? In terms of, but obviously they do have huge influence in how students get on the radars of colleges. So what was that like to like really just okay, this is gonna happen in in terms of being first off? I mean, it must be a great honor to have being on the radar there, but like just kind of walk me through those, those, those thoughts and processes.
SPEAKER_01I was really excited when I was offered the opportunity to be a reader. You apply for it. So any AP teacher can apply. And I think it's really great professional development. You learn a lot by having to score these essays. And so that was really a great experience because I kind of felt like I was still really new at it. I had only been teaching AP Lang for a few years at that point. And so I was like, are you sure you want me? Is that okay? And I really loved it. And then for the consulting position, I was encouraged to apply by a few existing consultants. And they were like, you would be great at this. You already do it anyway in different ways with what you're doing on social media. So go ahead and apply. And I definitely was very nervous about it because I felt like at that point I had a little bit of a name to myself, and I didn't want to, you know, like let anybody down or anything. So once they said you're in, I kind of breathed a sigh of relief. And I don't have a lot of direct contact with the college board at all in any way. It's not like that. Like I there are others who are much more involved, but I am very grateful to be a consultant because I think it helps me as a teacher as well. It's very different presenting to fellow teachers. Like honestly, I feel like sometimes presenting to fellow teachers is more intimidating than presenting a lesson to high school students.
SPEAKER_00So I guess you got on the radar after you already started the YouTube channel. So, like, walk me back through how does a teacher, an AP Lang teacher, just start a YouTube channel? How does it grow so big?
SPEAKER_01So there were sort of two reasons why I started the YouTube channel. And so primarily it was in 2019, February of 2019. I had my oldest son at the time was nine months old. So, you know, just starting out in AP Lang for a year or two. I've got, you know, an infant at home. And I think I was in my fifth year of teaching at that point. And I felt like I had accomplished all the goals that I had set out for myself when I was a first-year teacher. When I was a first year teacher, I made a list of the different things that I wanted to accomplish and I had pretty much checked all the boxes for what I wanted to do. And I felt like I needed a new challenge. I think, you know, having a baby at home and being a teacher, I just wanted something fun. And I knew nothing about content creation. And my videos are not full of special effects, they're very simplistic, but I think that's part of the charm about them is that they're the type of videos where you can listen and follow along and learn. And so I wanted that challenge. I wanted a hobby, something new. So that was definitely one aspect of it. It became a passion project of mine. In fact, that year, I actually had my own students do a passion project where they had to pick something that they wanted to do. And so I kind of did the project alongside of them and just kind of soft launched the YouTube channel just to see if it would work. I didn't know if it would. But admittedly, the other facet of this, if we can be a little bit candid about it, is at the time I remember my son, like I said, was nine months old. And I remember being in his nursery, rocking him to sleep, and thinking about the life I wanted to provide for him. And I had been coaching soccer for years and I didn't know if he would end up playing soccer or another sport. Turns out he's a swimmer. Um, he loves competitive swimming. And I was looking at, you know, our family budget on a teaching salary. And I thought, you know, I don't know if I can afford swim lessons and soccer lessons and teams and all that. And it's not that I started YouTube to make money by any means, but I knew, like, if I'm being honest, I knew there was a possibility that doing YouTube and maybe teachers pay teachers and other facets of social media, I knew that there was an opportunity to use the knowledge that I was giving my students in my classroom to make a better life for my family. Or at least hopefully.
SPEAKER_00And I mean, you're monetized, right? I just assume that's how right. How is YouTube? Is it is it like in terms of for paying wise, is it pretty good?
SPEAKER_01It's if we look at all social media platforms, uh, for me personally, in my experience, YouTube has the best payout. TikTok is not very good. So that one's the hardest one. And then I'm experimenting with other stuff right now because I don't typically post a ton on Facebook or Instagram, but I think there are times when it can be more lucrative. But for me, exam season, like basically now through May, is when I'm at my busiest. And then like once June hits, like the views just they just drop because no one's interested anymore.
SPEAKER_00Right. That's uh running an AP program has taught me that too. Like, how do we get this interest all year round? Okay, so walk me through how do you recommend kids get ready for the AP Lang exam? What should they be focusing on? Is it that big of a deal? Because it seems like you know, it's English. It should it really be that hard. But like walk me through saying that devil's advocate, of course. Walk me through, I guess, what what parents should know about the AP Lang exam and why it's important to do well on that too.
SPEAKER_01One of the things that I love about AP Lang, and one of the reasons why I think AP Lang is a great AP class for students to take, is that AP Lang is a lot of nonfiction skills. Some teachers do incorporate fiction because of state standards or just their own preferences. But students are going to encounter much more nonfiction in college and careers than they will fiction and poetry and things like that. So for those who might be a little bit unfamiliar with it, AP Lang is nonfiction, AP lit is fiction and poetry. And so AP Lang is kind of like, if you do concurrent credit, it's kind of like the skills in college English one or freshman English. And so I think one of the things that students and parents need to know about AP Lang is that it's skills you're actually going to use. We study argument. So you need to know how to construct an argument. We study rhetorical analysis, which is analyzing and a lot of our stuff, it's speeches, but you could use it for advertisements, letters, books, all that kind of stuff. And then one of the probably most valuable skills for students is our synthesis essay, which is basically like a mini research paper. Because I've noticed that in some schools, if you're not in an AP class, you might not have as much experience writing a research paper. And that can be very daunting when you get to college if you've never had to work with different source materials and kind of put them together, using them to support your argument rather than summarizing them. So I think AP Lang offers students a lot of needed skills, not just for college, but for life. And that's been kind of interesting over the years, hearing my students talk about how they're using AP Lang skills in the real world. And they're like, oh, this does actually, you know, make sense outside of the classroom. So I think that's part of what people need to know about AP and why AP Lang specifically is valuable, is that this is not just some niche content. And also, I think the argument of, well, it's just English class, like we speak English, we've taken English since, you know, we were younger, it's not your everyday English class. So it might be skills that you've never actually encountered before. And I've seen that in some of my tutoring sessions where a student was maybe a strong student, but they had never done this before. So it was a lot of new and unfamiliar. And so we had to kind of work through that because it is very different than your typical English class.
SPEAKER_00Now you just started, you said you just started AP seminar.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I am a first-year AP seminar teacher, and that is a great class as well. It's a lot, it is a lot of work in different ways. But I think it's a great class to take in theory before AP Lang, I have a few students taking it this year who took AP Lang last year, and they are thriving because they're like, we've already done all this. So AP seminar is another good one for students to consider because the skills are ones that they will use in college for sure.
SPEAKER_00How is that different from the AP Lang exam?
SPEAKER_01AP seminar actually has different parts to it. So there are two performance tasks, which are done essentially now. My students just finished the first performance task and we're about to start the second. And so it's more of like a portfolio-based exam. They do take an exam. We call it the EOC end, of course, where they do have a couple kind of quick essays that they write, but a lot of the work for the class is done in the spring semester, and it combines writing skills. They have to write a paper using sources and things like that, and also presentation skills. There is a group presentation that students do, and also an individual presentation that students do.
SPEAKER_00This episode is brought to you by Supported Tutoring, where we don't just help students get better grades, we help them become critical thinkers. Whether it's mastering AP exams, maximizing college applications, or building lifelong learning habits, our expert tutors focused on critical thinking, confidence, and real growth. Head to supportedtutoring.com to find the support your student deserves. Where do you so I mean AI has come and disrupted schools already? Like I think the moment Chat GPT was there, kids are starting to use it to write their essays. So how do you how do you deal with AI in your classroom and how are you incorporating it potentially to leverage it for future?
SPEAKER_01So right now our school has blocked Chat GPT and other things. And I'm grateful. The one thing we're working on blocking is Google Lens. That one is actually to me, Google Lens is more frustrating as a teacher than ChatGPT. Are you familiar with Google Lens?
SPEAKER_00Nah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so basically what it is is it's a way for how our students are using it is let's say they have, we use this program called IXL, which is like a grammar program for us. They can click on Google Lens and like have it kind of like view their screen. And let's say it's a multiple choice question, it will tell them what the answer is and why. When the here's but here's the other issue is we use a software program called um Go Guardian, which allows us to see what's on computer screens. I love Go Guardian, but on Go Guardian, you can't necessarily tell that they're using Google Lens except for the fact that their screen will kind of shrink and then expand again. And if you're not watching it that instant, you won't know. And even when it does it, it's we know what they're doing, but it's really hard to prove. And so one of the frustrations that a colleague of mine was experiencing is she is an excellent teacher. She is working so hard to show student growth in her scores and things like that. And she really thought her students were getting it, the different skills that she was going over. And then that's when we figured out about Google Lens. And so, as a teacher, it can be frustrating because I personally don't have an issue with AI at times when it's being used to support skills that we already have. Have. I know there's other facets of AI, there's environmental concerns and things like that. My students actually studied that earlier this year. And so there's probably some ethical issues as well, but I am not outright opposed to AI. I think there are ways that students can use it in a way that is helpful to them. And prior to Chat GBT being blocked at our school, I actually tried to incorporate um AI usage in some lessons to help my students. And my students really liked it. So for example, one of the soft skills that I was noticing my students were struggling with was how to write a correct professional email. And so I created a few different scenarios that they could perhaps encounter in college. And I would write out the scenario and then I told them, I want you to write the rough draft of the email and then leave that there for me to see, put it in chat GPT, and then take some of the suggestions it gives you and then show me your revised version. And I think that was just one of the practical ways where it was helping students be better communicators, the same as it's writing an essay for you or something like that. So I do think that there are some ways that students can use AI to help study and to support skills that they already have. But as a teacher, one of the things that we're experiencing right now is essentially the academic dishonesty and cheating. And that has been very tricky to deal with.
SPEAKER_00So where are we going in education with AI?
SPEAKER_01I am very curious about that because I don't know if this is a widespread concern or not. But I have heard districts in our area talking about potentially going back to paper and pencil and getting rid of devices. And I think it's more than just AI. I think there are other legitimate concerns with the amount of technology that students are using. But that is, for some people, that is the easiest way to avoid it, I suppose, in the moment is to just take the technology away, which I don't love that either, though, because I do want our students to have digital literacy. And honestly, for me as a teacher, I love digital assignments because I hate taking a bunch of papers home, like a big old stack of papers. I love that it's digital. I love that it's time stamped and all those things. So I wish I had a concrete answer for that, but I really think we just need to learn how to use it effectively and in moderation and really start teaching that from a young age.
SPEAKER_00And um, do you think the uh college board is gonna start integrating uh AI?
SPEAKER_01I know that a couple years ago, the question was posed about are you ever going to use AI to support the reading? And my understanding is, and I don't want to speak for the college board in any way, but my understanding is we are gonna continue to have human readers because we are trained professionals. And personally, and this is not like something I've noticed, is that AI does not always score things accurately the way a teacher would. And so I don't think we're there yet where AI can or should replace humans and teachers in the scoring process. But I do think there might be other ways to use AI, but definitely for scoring, especially written responses, you get a much more accurate score with a teacher.
SPEAKER_00It's like being in that room with the uh are you have you been a lead table reader?
SPEAKER_01No, I haven't been a lead yet, but I do know several people who have been. And so they are definitely trying to voice those concerns that teachers across the US and across the world probably are having with that for sure.
SPEAKER_00Have you gotten recognized as Beth Hall rights out in public?
SPEAKER_01At the AP reading, yes. I actually I don't know that I've been recognized like in my real life outside of the AP reading, but I have had a couple students from other schools recognize me. So I guess kind of, but it was because they're I know their teacher, and so it wasn't like I was just like walking through Walmart and was recognized or something, but I have been recognized at the AP reading when I've gone in person. The past couple years I've done the at-home reading, but I've also been recognized by a couple of students here in Arkansas. So or they'll tell me, like, oh wait, that's you, your voice sounds really familiar.
SPEAKER_00So gotcha, gotcha, cool. I guess what I'm gonna move into is kind of a rapid fire question. Cool. So the rapid fire, I always break my rules, just FYI. I I say like we basically first thing that comes to mind, no no explanation needed, but obviously if you want to elaborate, you can do that. Does that sound good? Like around. All right, cool. So what's the most overrated thing right now in AP Lang prep?
SPEAKER_01Oh goodness. I don't know that I have a quick answer for that one. I have to think about this one. I think sometimes as teachers, we try really hard to make these really over-the-top lessons, and sometimes simple is better.
SPEAKER_00Okay. What's the most underrated skill in AP Lang that people often take for granted?
SPEAKER_01Um, there's probably a few that come to mind, but I think just in general, having a good academic writing voice is something that I think people take for granted sometimes.
SPEAKER_00Something that parents overthink when it comes to AP Lang prep.
SPEAKER_01I think sometimes parents worry too much about the score that their student will receive or the grade that they will have in the class. Like I understand why they're concerned about college and scholarships and various things, but I think sometimes we get so focused on GPA grades and exam scores that we lose sight of the other progress that the student has made.
SPEAKER_00What's one thing parents underthink about AP lag?
SPEAKER_01I think one of the things that I've noticed has come up more in conversation in our area is well, why do they need AP when they could just take concurrent credit? Because for us, concurrent credit is through the local community college. And I teach the concurrent credit classes at our school. So I teach both AP Lang and concurrent credit. And I would say, in my experience, and I don't think this applies to everybody's experience, but in my experience, if you have a strong student and you want to prepare them for their college career, I think in many cases, AP Lang does a better job of preparing students because it is more rigorous. Whereas college English is great for students where maybe English isn't their strong suit, or they're maybe not looking to get into a super competitive school. I think sometimes people conflate the two because they're both worth this like credit. But I I think, at least in my experience, I wish people would understand that they are two vastly different classes.
SPEAKER_00If you could whisper one piece of advice to a parent or a student about to enroll in AP Lang for the following year, what would it be? Believe in yourself. Okay. What's one free resource every AP Lang student should check out besides your content?
SPEAKER_01Oh goodness. Because I was gonna say my TikTok, because it's short form content. Kids love that. Well, I have to give a shout out to Tim from the Garden of English because he does excellent work as well. And while we tend to say a lot of the same things, we sometimes present it differently. And he and I collaborate as well. So I really like his work. I think I don't know if I'd call this a resource, but one of the tips that I give my own students is be good citizens of the world, like be up to date on current events and other things as well. I feel like sometimes that is a skill that AP Lang teachers are trying to help their students with, is we want them to be knowledgeable of the world around them. And so if you're going to be scrolling on your phone and things like that, be can be mindful of the content that you're consuming because a lot of times when students are trying to write about current events, they do so very simplistically. And so I don't know that it's a resource per se, but I definitely would encourage students to be more mindful of the content they're consuming and try to be a little bit more knowledgeable about what's going on in the world around them.
SPEAKER_00What's the next big shift do you see coming in how we educate uh the next generation of AP students?
SPEAKER_01Now that the exams are digital, I think that teachers are trying to balance the digital side of things, like how do we annotate digitally and how do we practice for a digital exam with just sort of the tried and true pencil paper techniques as well. And I personally am not opposed to digital exams, but I definitely think that's one of the things that we're dealing with right now is how do we adapt education to meet our students where they are in terms of technology, but also recognizing that being on a screen for too much of your day can be problematic as well. So just trying to find that balance, I think, is one of the things that we're dealing with.
SPEAKER_00This has been incredibly valuable. I really, really appreciate you making the time for us coming on because we got we got both heavy hitters in the AP Lang world. Tim said he was gonna connect me with uh Heimler's history. I was like, well, we already reached, we got it, we but he bumped us. We got bumped by Heimler for from March to September, I think now. So we'll have to re to do that.
SPEAKER_01He's a busier thing.
SPEAKER_00I'm sure he is. He got he got a lot of post-production of YouTube videos. I know that. So um, but uh you know, I know parents are gonna want to reach out, learn more about what you offer, you know, the valuable information you pass on to parents and students. Where is the best place for them to find you?
SPEAKER_01So for parents, I would say if you're interested in tutoring, a lot of parents reach out to me through my Instagram, which is Coach Hallwright. And for students, I would definitely encourage students to subscribe over on YouTube. That's where I have more than five years of longer form content and some shorter content. And then also TikTok, because TikTok has though those short form content pieces as well. And as the exam approaches, I do try to go live on both platforms. And a lot of times Tim and I will go live together on his channel to answer student questions. So that would be the best place for students who are looking for tips and tricks, would be YouTube and TikTok. And then if people want to reach out for other things, usually Instagram messages are appropriate.
SPEAKER_00And uh, before we wrap, what's one thing you want people to remember from this conversation?
SPEAKER_01I hope that people realize that AP Lang is a valuable class that helps prepare students for college and career, because I know that that's one of the goals that students and parents have. And for the teachers out there that may be listening, I would say if you are looking to find a new hobby and reach new audiences, believe in yourself and just try it. Because social media can be a great way to connect with fellow teachers. Or if you're like me and you teach high school, it can be a great way to share your knowledge with that type of audience as well.
SPEAKER_00Amazing. Beth, thank you so much for making time for us again. This has been great. Uh, really appreciate you coming on again. Um, and we're gonna hopefully see you again next time. And uh good luck to all of your students in the AP exams as well.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much.
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