Baby, Baby to Babysitters

Fun Facts and Sidetracks: The Ones That Got Away, Surprising Celebrity Babysitters and Stolen Inventions

In this episode of 'Fun Facts and Sidetracks,' Al and Marty discuss famous songs that were initially intended for other artists, including tracks by The Supremes, Kylie Minogue, Seal, and Kenny Loggins. They delve into amusing and surprising stories about celebrity babysitters such as Alice Cooper babysitting Keanu Reeves and Cher babysitting Anthony from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Additionally, the episode explores intriguing facts about famous buildings like the Eiffel Tower and the Great Wall of China, and uncovers the true origins of well-known inventions, revealing famous figures like Thomas Edison who capitalized on others' innovations. The hosts wrap up with a discussion on LEGO and other noteworthy inventions.

00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:55 The Ones That Got Away: Iconic Songs Rejected by Artists

09:12 Celebrity Babysitters: Unexpected Connections

15:56 Hollywood Connections: Keifer Sutherland and Gwyneth Paltrow

16:57 Builder's Journey: From Music to Construction

18:07 Famous Buildings Around the World

22:38 Lego: The Ultimate Building Block

25:32 Famous Inventions and Their True Origins

32:06 Wrapping Up: From Supremes to Eiffel Tower

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Transcript

Al and Marty: 0:16

Gid day Mart, How are you? Yeah. Here we are again. Fun facts and sidetracks. Yes. Yeah. You know, we don't claim to be, authority on all these topics that we're, talking about. Hmm. Well, some of them anyway. Yeah. The stories that we tell about ourselves, hopefully we've got reasonably accurate. Yeah, mine are definitely 100%. Yeah. but. If you think we haven't got it right, send us an email. Definitely. Yeah. Through Fun Facts and sidetracks@gmail.com. Very good, Al. Thank you very much. Alright, shall we kick off? Yes, let's do it.

Al and Marty: 0:52

Okay. First up, what's the first up? The ones that got away. Yeah. We often talk about these songs that are intended for someone and they just don't take them. Okay. They wind up in someone else's hands. Yeah. Who you got out? Well, the difference with these ones is they all seem to have pretty major consequences when somebody didn't take up the option of recording them. Mm-hmm. Pretty good example of that is where did our love go? So this is The Supremes. Yeah. You know? Yeah. You'll, you'll sing it for me, won't you? No, I won't won. Not this one. This song was written for the Marvelettes who'd had a hit with Please, Mr. Postman. And apparently their lead singer refused to sing it because she hated the line in a baby baby. And so it was given to the Supremes. And she hated the line. Baby, baby. Yeah. For whatever reason, I don't know. But, the Supremes to that point were kind of being mocked by bands like this for being the No hit Supremes. Yeah. So Diana Ross and Co. Yeah. This was the first of their 12 number one hits. So, so if the Marvelettes had taken that song, who knows? Yeah. But, uh, pretty dumb call. You would have to think. Baby, baby, baby. Yeah. That's gotta be one of the biggest words in most of the rock and roll songs, isn't it? Don't Google Baby, baby. You'll be looking through the responses forever. Yeah. Anyway, there you go. It's just been sped up and like you Barry White baby, baby, everyone's used it. Yeah. It was probably not the smartest call by Gladys. No. But anyway. Yeah. Who's next? Okay, next up. We seem to talk about Kylie Minogue a lot. Yeah. That's not by design, but no, it, it seems that a lot of her songs are either her picking them up or other people, offering to her and she doesn't take them. Well, she's had an interesting career. She has and she's of the Aussie Battler. Exactly. So her 2000 comeback single spinning around. Mm. It was a pretty bloody big hit when you think about it. It was, this is the clip that has Kylie in the disco, in those, hot pants. Yeah. Inverted commas. Mm-hmm. So the ones that made her famous for that outfit. Yeah. You know, and again, that song was not initially intended for Kylie. It was intended for. Paula Abdul. Oh. But apparently, I don't know what happened, but Paula Abdul gets a writing credit on the song, so I dunno if she added something to it, but ultimately credit. Yeah, ultimately it wound up with Kylie on her seventh album, light Years, and all that goes with it. Not only was the song incredibly successful, but the video was just so successful and this was all about her being reestablished, and it certainly did that. Yeah. And the hot pants as well. Yeah, that's it. Were very successful. Yeah. Well, they're on display somewhere in, you know, the hot pants exhibition somewhere. Probably They are. No, in a glass case. We'd have to look that one up. Just like a Batman cape or something. Anyway, so next up we've got a kiss from a Rose. Oh, seal. Seal. That was a huge song. Yeah. Was, he's an unusual look looking, I was gonna say, looking guy, but. You know, the girls love him, I think, but he's got that sort of scar look about him, hasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Dangerous. Dangerous. Yeah. There you go. He, did not wanna sing that song. There's some story of him apparently throwing the tape in the corner of the room and Wow. Hating it. But it was ultimately included in the movie Batman Forever, and, yeah. Has been a staple on FM radio ever since. And I think probably he's changed his tune about whether he likes it or not. I think so. Like what other songs did he have? I can't remember. Yeah, I know. Did he have a huge, 'cause he pops up everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. He is a judge on one of those singing shows and stuff. But all, all on the basis of, a Kiss from a Rose, I suspect. Yeah. Imagine when he threw that tape away, he threw it down Smack the dummy. Yeah. Yeah. You sure you wanna do that? Yes. Well, gimme a listen to it one more time. So I'll give it a go now, speaking of big, FM Staples. Mm-hmm. How many times do you reckon you've heard danger zone? Oh, man, since 1986. Danger Zone reminds you of Tom Cruise and, yep. Yeah, yeah. Leather jacket motorbikes. Yeah. Yeah. So Top Gun Highway. Yes. To the, the Danger Zone. So Kenny Loggins ultimately sang that, but it was offered to Toto, to Brian Adams, to REO Speedwagon. Where are they now? Mm-hmm. Uh, Jefferson Starship and Cory Hart, all of whom rejected it. But, Kenny Loggins had already had a number one hit. With foot loses a couple of years earlier. Yeah. And he kinda stepped in as a last minute replacement and gosh, it went to number two on the billboard. Hot 100 and it's so synonymous with that top gun. I, he's just sitting back listening to going Chaching, chaching, chaching. Because how many times do you hear that on the FM station? Oh, far too often. I suspect, you know, first thing in the morning, ha, we two and all through the day and then last thing at night. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. There you go. One more. This goes back to 1965. It's for your love by a band called The Yardbirds. Yeah. For your love. That's it. Yeah. The Yardbirds obviously were famous for being the band that. Eric Clapton played him they were looking for a hit at the time, and a guy called Graham Goldman, who was an 18-year-old working in a men's cloth store. Mm-hmm. Who was in a band at the time. He'd written this song For Your Love. Yeah. For your love. And he kind of, he'd pinched the idea from. How the animals had House of the Rising Sun. Yeah. Because they kind of inverted the whole chord sequence in that. Yeah. From the traditional version. And he went, that's a good idea. I'll do that with this song. Yeah. Anyway, he, he wrote this thing and added a harpsi chord and it went to number one. But when the Yardbirds played live, 'cause they were like a blues rock band, right? That's right. Eric Clapton evidently hated having to play. Or replicate the harps chord sound. Yeah. Every time they played it. So he ultimately left the band so well, there you go. Thanks to him. And went on, you know, to form cream and all of those things. So, yeah, this young guy working in the shop, went on to Graham Gouldman. Yeah. Went on to write all sorts of hits for people like the hollies, bus stop, looked through any window, no milk today, all that sort of stuff. Yeah. And of course he joined 10 CCC and, co-wrote, I'm not in Love. Dreadlock holiday. I'm Mandy fly me , Art for art's sake. Wow. Like all this stuff, right? Like he must be, how old would he be? Well, he was 18 in 1964. Wow. So he was, say he was born in, um, 1946. So, yeah, he's still touring. 10 CC is playing at Twin Towers shortly. So How old was he? He was 18 when he wrote it. Yeah, sorry, Al. Yeah. I'm not good with Matt's, but we can work that out and if someone works it out. Hey, I think we drop us a line. I think we just did, didn't we? Sorry, again. That's too funny. Anyway. That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

Al and Marty: 9:12

A fun thing that I came across is the idea of celebrity babysitters. Okay. This is gonna be interesting. Yeah, it it's kind of fun. Mm-hmm. Uh, and the first one is the fact that when Keanu Reeves was a baby, don't you love Keanu Reeves? I love Keanu Reeves. I reckon he's after Clint Eastwood. He's probably the coolest person on the planet, I think, to He's, he's very cool. He is a very spiritual, and he Yeah, he is. Yeah. And he was babysat by someone who lived across the road. In Toronto at the time, and that was Alice Cooper there. Alice, he was also a very cool person from one extreme to the other. Yeah, he's a mystery guy too, because he's quite religious. He is. Yeah. Yeah. He's a dude. Yeah. He's so different to the persona that you see on stage, right? He is. He plays, he loves golf. Yeah. Apparently he's a passionate golf player, which I just, with that makeup. And carrying a cane all the time. And that hat. Oh no, he's so they're both very cool dudes. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Wouldn't that be great to have him as babysitter? Oh man. Yeah. The thing I, like, I saw, uh, Keanu Reeves being interviewed on Jimmy Fallon show. Yeah. And he said, oh, I don't really remember it, but, apparently there was a fake poo in the fridge. So they kind of put that down to Alice. So was Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper then? Well, no, that's his sort of stage name, so I know that, but you know what I'm saying. Was he, was he, uh, well, who knows? I I bet he's Jewish with that nose. Come on big nose. You know what I'm saying? I dunno. Was he Alice Cooper? The, was he, I, I dunno if he had assumed that persona yet. Or if he was still Vincent Nia at that point. That would've been about 1970. And like the band was called Alice Cooper initially, and then he sort of took on that name. Oh really? I didn't know that. I, I just thought he was Alice Cooper. Yeah. So I don't know if he was Alice yet. I dunno if he was terrifying kids when he was babysitting them all. He like just was set. Just Halloween went crazy for one. One. Halloween every day is Halloween. Yeah. He's a very cool guy too. Yeah. They're both cool guys. Yeah. Anyway. One of the recurring themes with this little topic is it seems to be, maybe it's because a lot of people are just all based in Hollywood, but it seems like parents knowing parents. Yeah. So a lot of these things, I'll give you an example. Um, Laura Dern and Angelina Jolie. So Laura Dern was a babysitter Yeah. For Angelina and. That's probably because Angelina Jolie's dad was John Voight. Yeah. Laura Dern's dad, was Bruce Dern. So they were basically family friends. Right. Yeah. So it sort of happened naturally. Yeah. Yeah. Here's another one. Liza Minnelli and Ron Howard. Hollywood Loyalty there. I wonder if that, I wonder if that was when he was doing, um. Oh, well she was looking after him. She was looking after him, so, oh no. What was she doing? Babysitting. Well, his dad was an actor and he hired Judy Garland's, teenage daughter, Liza, to look after his son. Is that Liza with a zed? Yeah. Not Liza with an S. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. Well, there you go. Because yeah, that she had an up and down career. Yeah. And, and he actually later in life as a director encouraged her to appear in, uh, at least one of his movies. So, yeah. Well, that's good. There you go. Um, she, she was not unhappy days. That's true. Um, fun's girlfriend. Was it Pinky Tuscadero and Leather Tuscadero. We'll talk about Happy Days in another episode. Yeah, we will. Here's one. Michael Bolton was Paula Abdul's babysitter. Oh, Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton Fuller. Paula Adul. Yeah. She She did that clip with the rapper, didn't she? She did. She did. Apparently one of Michael Bolton's band members was going out with Paula Abdul's sister, so he kind of agreed to stay home and look after the little sister, but she said he was a pretty crappy babysitter because, all he cared about was music. So he used to go off and find, people in the, in the same unit block who were playing music and he wouldn't help her with her homework and all this sort of thing. Geez, I wonder if he had that mother. Yeah. Now here's a real good one. Cher and Anthony Kiedis from Red Hot Chili Peppers, so Wow. Yeah. Lucky fella. Yeah. Well, so in his autobiography from 2004, scar tissue. Mm-hmm. He says that he saw Cher naked when she was babysitting for him. He pretended to be asleep, but he was spying on her as she stripped off to get ready for bed when she was babysitting overnight. My goodness. So there you go. That might've had an influence on, on him as a young fellow, but he did. When, if Sonny popped in with that big snot, talk about Big s. Yeah. Goodness. I Okay, you babe. Okay. Who else we got now? William H Macy and Joan Cusack. Okay. Yep. We've got Billie Holiday in Billy Crystal. Billie Holiday. Yes. That's, wow. She must have been pretty old then. Billie Holiday. Yeah, he said she was the first person to ever take him to the movies. They watched Western Shane in 1953. She was signed to Commodore Records at the time, which was co-owned by, Billy Crystal's dad, Jack Crystal. And so she'd often sort of guessed on. Things and, help out as a babysitter and a future actor. So there you go. Have you ever seen Billy Crystal take off Muhammad Ali? No. He had a whole show where he, he took off exactly what Muhammad Ali said he was gonna do about the Rumble in the Jungle, I think. Oh, yeah. That fight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really good. He's pretty cool, isn't he? Yeah. Pretty smart. He even, he even looked like him, even though he's a little short Jewish guy. Yeah. Wow. So here's, here's the last one for you. Yeah. Keifer Sutherland and Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, so this is a classic case of, uh, Hollywood parents. You've got Keifer Sutherland, who is Donald Sutherland's son. Yeah. And you've got Gwyneth Paltrow, who is of course Blythe Danner's daughter. And so you had Keifer and Blythe worked together, so he ended up, babysitting for Gwyneth. Kea worked in the theatre with Blythe Danner, and she'd sometimes ask him to babysit for her, oh, so he looked after Gwyneth when she was about 11 or 12. Okay. Yeah. So there you go. There's there's a few famous ones. It is. That's great, isn't it? Yeah. Wow. I love the Alice Cooper one, but Yeah. Well, you know. Yeah. And the, it's, it's Alice Cooper and Keanu Reeves. Um, first daylight, second as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. They're both cool people. Yeah.

Al and Marty: 16:59

Now, one of the things that people might not know about you and son now is that you are a builder. I didn't know that. Yeah. Well, I, I think we've talked about a karate Marty. Yeah. And we've talked about you being a muso. Okay. But you're also a builder. That's right. Uh, a brickie. Yeah, and I've done oh, carpentry for ages and yeah, hanging, wallpaper, wallpaper, hanging, business, a painting, painting, wallpaper, interior decorating business. Yeah. I worked for a plumber for four years. I've done plastering. I. Rendering. Yeah. I've done it all. Well, you built this house that we're Yes. Yeah. Sitting in, fun facts and sidetracks.com central. Yeah, very fine house. It is too. Yeah. Yeah. I spent a lot of time doing that while I was doing music at night, so, yeah. Yeah. So is this gonna be interesting what we're talking about? Well, we're talking about building my friend. Good. And we're talking about famous buildings, in fact. Okay, we're talking about me again. Yeah, that's, yeah, of course. It, it, everything leads back to you. Yeah. So let's have a chat about some of the famous buildings around the world. What have we got? So the first one is the Eiffel Tower. Mm-hmm. One of the world's great landmarks. It is. The interesting fact about this is that Gustav Eiffel pitched it to Barcelona and they didn't want it. Okay. Yeah. He was an engineer, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gustav actually did the engineering on the interior of the, uh, statue Liberty in America. In New York. Oh, wow. Yeah. And, and then it was covered in copper. So it's actually covered in copper. That's why it's green. Oh yeah. Yeah. Wow. Copper goes green when it's aged. Imagine polishing that brasso. You need a lot of brasso. Yeah. Holy Nelly. What's next, Al? Sorry mate. Well, no. Interesting sidetrack mate. Yes, but the interesting thing was when it was built, the Parisians were none too happy to have it there either. And in fact, one of their famous contemporary writers disliked it so much. He used to go and eat his lunch inside the Eiffel Tower because it was the only place in Paris that he could go and do that without having to see it. Oh, so typical Frenchman. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, there you go. That's an interesting story that the Eiffel Tower, the, it was, you know, built and, and that guy, what he went through. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a movie about it. It was very interesting. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The Great Wall of China. One fact about this, it's long. It's very long. And despite what people say, you can't see the Great Wall of China from space. No, you can't. You know how it's a cliche that Yeah, yeah. They're saying even from lower orbit, you can't see the Great Wall of China, really? So that, that's a fallacy. Wow. Not with the human eye at least. So you can't see it from the moon. If they weren't looking down and going, yeah, there's the child. Apparently not. No. Geez. Yeah, it's huge. But yeah, I did see a show and they said they weren't sure which way it was actually protecting. Oh, okay. You know, like, was it protecting China or was it protecting the other way? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, to keep the rabbits out. Alright, the next one, the Taj Mahal. This is pretty interesting too. It was built as a mausoleum for the wife of the, the emperor at the time. Yeah, she died in 1631. They started building this thing in 1632, and it was finished in 1648. Wow. It's a fair old undertaking. Yeah. But the thing that fascinated me about this is that they have these minarets or the, the towers, the tall towers. Oh, the big towers out front. Yeah. On side. They're adjacent to the mosque. Yes. But they're actually built on an angle so that if. There was to be, say a, an earthquake or something. Yeah, if they fall down, they won't fall down on the mausoleum and not fall the other way. Wow. Wow. I mean, you see that a lot in this, you know, crazy architecture around the world, don't you? Yeah. You do. You know, from the Acropolis and Yeah. Things like that. The steps on the Acropolis are so big that they allowed, 'cause your eyes, if it was level, your eyes would see it wrong, so they made it. Curve downwards. Yeah. If you stand at the step and cite down the steps they actually curve downwards to allow for the curvature of the earth. Yeah, that's how big the like, that's amazing. Yeah. Okay. Pyramids. Yeah. Now when you think pyramids, you think one place, right? Yes. Which is, yeah, Egypt. Yep. But the truth is they say there's more pyramids in Sudan than there are in Egypt. They estimate there's 250 pyramid structures in a sedan built between 2,500 BC and 300 ad. Okay. Egypt's thought to have just over a hundred pyramids. Not another pyramid. That's how many is too much? Yeah, many far out. Geez. Yeah. There you go. Those aliens were very busy. Now here's, here's a fact, mark being a builder, you'll appreciate this. Yeah. Lego bricks. Oh, wow. I love Lego. I really do. Lego, bricks are thought to be able to support the weight of 375,000 other Lego bricks before the brick fails. I wonder how many ton that is. I dunno. But they say theoretically it would let you build a tower that's three and a half kilometres high. Wow. So if you scale that up to house bricks mm-hmm. You know, they say, oh, it would cost you much. You'd never do it, but yeah. But the structure of the Lego brick Yeah. Is such that it's, it's the strongest thing that you can build with. Right. It's incredible. Yeah. There are building products now that are like Lego that I've seen. Yeah. That like, they're like a foam and they go together. They keep together exactly the same and they just render the outside. Yeah. Right. Fun facts about Lego. Yeah. It is the world's biggest manufacturer of tires. It often a little for all the bits and bobs that you get. Oh no. Yeah, true. And credit to the people from Qi for that fact. But how good the biggest manufacturer of, of tires, tires in the world do they mean like as in number of tires that have made little tires? Yeah. Wow. It's still a cool fact. That's an amazing fact. Yeah. Here's another one. Lego has an underground vault with every Lego set ever made. So if the worst happens, then I dunno, whoever's left is gonna find, a complete set of every single one. Yeah. So there you go. They've been so smart. They've tapped into everything, right? Yeah. From, from Batman to Star Wars to Minecraft now. Yeah, they, they're pretty amazing. They reckon. The revenue in 2023 for Lego was around 9.6 billion. Such a good product. Yeah, it's a great product. A really interesting thing though, mark is apparently the founder of the company, Ole Kirk Christiansen, in 1946 was shown a demonstration of a plastic moulding machine that was being used to make a product called Bri-Plax, interlocking building cubes. Mm-hmm. Built by a little British company called Kiddycraft. And, essentially the Lego bricks are a better version of that Kiddy craft product. Lego maintained that, it was fine to use the design, but just in case in 1982, they snapped up the rights to the Kiddycraft product and reached an out of court settlements. So. Sure. Everyone's a winner. Yeah, I reckon, I reckon. Geez. But it did get me thinking. I mean, I'm not here to say whether they stole the idea or not. Yeah. But there's a whole bunch of famous inventions over time Yeah. That have, let's say, been influenced by other people's hand work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's have a look at a couple of them. Okay. I'll be interested to hear. Well, you know, intermittent windscreen wipers. So back in the day, 1963. Yeah. A guy called Robert Kearns built the first intermittent wiper system. Yes. He tried to sell it to, what was the big three in those days? Ford, Chrysler, and General Motors. They all rejected it, but then came out with their own version of it straight away. Geez. Yeah. So he then went through a pretty protected legal battle. Uh, that went on for more than a decade, but, he won. The Chinese are doing that now, aren't they? Well, maybe, yeah. Yeah. They could be doing it. Yeah. Another one is Jack Daniels. Oh. Which, for 150 years, it's been attributed to a Reverend Daniel Call who was a white Lutheran minister from Lynchburg, Tennessee. Famously, but, in truth, apparently it was a fellow called Nathan Nearest Green, who was an enslaved man, and he actually taught this guy how to make this, this product. It's fair to say that, he was never really given the credit for creating it. And the, the sort of corporate story goes on, you know, that horrible. Yeah. They sell 13.3 million cases every year. Yeah. Wow. So, wow. There's a lot of drunk, Christmas. Yeah. Fights there. Monopoly's another good one. There's a lady in 1904 who invented a game called the Landlord's Game. And the idea was to, use land tax and caution against the perils of land grabbing. Basically it was ripped off and presented to Parker Brothers in 1935, and there was even a spelling mistake copied directly from the original, so it was pretty hard to hide that. Wow. They'd pinched the whole thing. But Parker Brothers dodged legal action by acquiring the rights. This is a recurring theme. So they bought it out and, 40 years went by before the company admitted that this lady was the real brains behind the game. Wow. Yeah. There you go. And they could do that without any Yeah, well it seems that way. Like even say that they stole it. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. And, and I hasten to add that we are saying, apparently this was the story, we don't wanna go to court with Parker Brothers or anyone else. I'm just going really? Yeah, no, you are implicated in this 'cause you are saying really. Yeah, so it's go to jail, go directly to jail.

Al and Marty: 28:32

Okay, next up the sewing machine. I think most people would think that the sewing machine can be put down to a fellow called Singer who's widely credited with inventing the modern sewing machine. Mm-hmm. Apparently the truth is that he pinched the design from another fellow by the name of Howe and Howe had pinched the design from someone called John Fisher. Uh, John Fisher never patented it. However, how did the guy in the middle mm-hmm. And so he was able to sue Singer for lost royalties and mounted several legal cases. So he made a lot out of this. And the original designer got. Nothing. Nothing. A zero. Yeah. A duck egg fellow. Yeah. You know, to watch that going on ahead of you. Yeah. It's, it's a weird thing. A lot of these things seem to take so long to get to court. Yeah. That, the court proceedings take so long that people die along the way. Yeah. Or they just run out of money. Oh, I could imagine. Run outta money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's horrible. So the light bulb's a really good one. I think we've all grown up thinking Thomas Edison is the inventor of the light globe. Yeah. Uh, but the truth is that he applied a lot of his own technology to things that already existed. So there was a couple of Canadian inventors, Henry Woodward and Matthew Evans, who, sold Edison their light bulb patent after they'd failed to secure financial backing. So what happened there was an English guy called Joseph Swan. He had, designs for a carbon filament electric light, and, that had already been published in. Scientific American magazine. So Swan had filed for a patent, on that technology before Edison. So he was able to sue him for patent infringement and one. Wow. Yeah. Crazy time. It is. And lastly, the movie projector. So again, believe it or not, Edison had been accused of appropriating the ideas, from a number of people for his invention, including the movie projector. But there were people who'd actually created this thing earlier. Yeah, a thing called the fano scope in 1895. But again, they didn't have the financial backing for it they sold their idea to the Kinetoscope company and then that company turned to Thomas Edison for funding. So Thomas wins that every time he seems to, yeah. So the actual inventions were deleted, from the products history and it was renamed Edison's Phantoscope, even the record player Mark, which I think people know the gramophone to have come from Thomas Edison. Yeah. Apparently there were some French guys who created the earliest sound recording device and there was a French inventor who. Captured the first recording of sound Well before Edison in 1877. Wow. Oh, probably exactly how it sounded. Is that, is that the recording? Yeah. From 1877. Yeah, I think so. So there you go. Yeah, that's great Al And there are lots more, but, it's pretty sad because. Sometimes the patenting is tied to financial backing. Yeah. Yeah. No one wins there, and he's only one winner, and it seems to be Thomas, it seems to be.

Al and Marty: 32:07

Okay, Al I think that's pretty good. We've rounded it off pretty well. We've covered a lot of ground and had a few laughs. What do you think? We've been from the Supremes to the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. Keanu Reeves and everywhere in between. Yeah. Great. Alright. See you next time folks. Yep. We'll see ya.