Guest Artists and Painting the Town Red

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We're back again, Al We are back, Mart, yeah. Are you ready? I'm ready, yeah Good, I'm ready I think we've got, fun facts and sidetracks now with 25% more fun facts than ever before in every pack. Well, that's terrific. Why don't we just get into it? Well Let's get a six-pack, a six-pack of facts. Yeah. That's- It's a muscly pack. Probably should have called it that Yeah. All righty. Well, as always, these are just fun facts that we've discovered, folks, and, you know, we wanted to share them with you, we try and double-check everything and- Yeah ... pretty much we don't claim to get it spot on- No ... but we hope we do. But, we have fun getting it together. Yeah All right It's just a lot of fun Yeah. Yes, let's rip in now.        Okay, Mart. Talking music as always first up. Music's a good thing. It always is. And this time talking about artists that sort of guest appeared on some pretty famous songs. That sounds good. There are some songs that people recognise who the guest artists are, and then I think there's kind of more fun in finding out about, who might have appeared on a song and you never really knew that. Yeah. Really, really good example of that is the Belinda Carlisle song Leave a Light On for Me. Yeah. Next time you hear that, have a listen to it and you'll realise there's all this slide guitar going on, and it's actually George Harrison playing that. Really? Yeah. George Harrison. George Harrison. Wow, I didn't know. That's awesome. I mean, what a get. Yeah. Yeah. How did he end up on that? Well, apparently he told the team that he liked, her sound. And, I saw an interview with him not long before he died, and he actually said, "Oh, yeah, I just do some gigs now and then just, you know, session stuff. I recorded something for,….oh, what's that, what's that girl's name?" Belinda. Yeah... but it highlights that it's, actually easier to get famous people to work on your songs than you might think. Yeah. Another good example of that is the James Reyne song Hammerhead, which is all about, heroin addiction, right? Yeah. And in the background you hear this lady, and all she's really singing is the word hammerhead. Mm. And you think for all the world that sounds like Olivia Newton-John. And the reason it sounds like her is because it is her. Wow. Yeah. And, and again, I've heard James Reyne just say recently, I think maybe some of his management had some connection to her and she was sort of wanting to get known as more of a rock artist. Yeah. So when they said, you know, they approached her management and said, "Would she be interested in doing this?" I mean, it's James Reyne. Yeah. Great, great as he is in Australia, but she was kind of international, you know? Yeah, she's trying to get out of that, what was the choo-choo train one she did? Xanadu? No. No, the oh, come on. Why can't I think of it? It doesn't matter. It was very clean music. Are you thinking of Kylie Minogue? Yes. That's why. So, yes, Olivia Newton-John, sometimes also known as Kylie Minogue. Well, Olivia Nuclear Bomb. Olivia Neutron Bomb? Yeah. Yeah. So you could say yes. Yeah. That's who in the background of that song, which is- Wow ... pretty neat. Yeah. She was incredible. I mean, she really was. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that song, you hear it, and you go, "Wow, I can't imagine anyone else being the backing singer on that. No. And you think of her career, like, she was like a real pioneer- Mm ... going to America and all that sort of thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She’s another 10 pound Pom. Yeah, there you go. They're everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Now from one extreme to the other, Michael Jackson, who, you know, it's a bit of a, kind of a- touchy subject now for all sorts of reasons, But he has always certainly surrounded himself with amazing people. Yeah, amazing guitarists. And so on Beat It, with that really iconic guitar riff. Yeah, wailing guitar. That's Eddie Van Halen. Basically Van Halen had a rule that said they wouldn't record with anyone else. Mm-hmm. And the band was out of town, and he said, "Oh, look, I'll just sneak in and record this for half an hour or so." Did it as a favour, no payment, expecting no one to know. But then, of course, it became record of the year, so it was- Yeah ... a bit hard to hide the fact that he was playing. And how couldn't it have been with that, his guitar work? It's awesome. Yeah, but, you know, chunky, sort of ... and I think Slash played on a lot of his stuff- Yeah ... and may even been on that track as well. Yeah. And then, you know, Michael Jackson's guest appeared on other songs. So there's a song by Rockwell, which is Somebody's Watching Me. I always feel like somebody's watching me. Yes, yes, I know the song. Yeah. And, and Michael Jackson sings that line all the time. Oh, really? Just in backing vocals, but you go, if anyone's gonna sing that- Yeah ... like, he's well-suited to- Yeah ... being in the public eye so much, right? So that was a kind of a perfect fit as well. Dear. Yeah. Who else we got Al? Oh, who else have we got? Well, I suppose there are some that just you can't imagine them being as good without these people. So when Peter Gabriel recorded Don't Give Up- Mm ... and it's that duet thing with Kate Bush. Yes. Yeah. I mean, Kate Bush basically sings the, all the lead- Mm-hmm ... in that song, and she's got so much emotion in it, and it's, you know, it's all about not giving up through all sorts of adversity. Yeah. She just owns the song. But, you know, apparently he initially was going to get Dolly Parton to sing that. Wow. Yeah. Imagine if she'd done that. I know. It'd be a different song, hey? Yeah, it would be. Yeah. It's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, it's really- It's really interesting. Yeah. But you could not imagine it being anyone but, you know. Mm. Um, pretty interesting one. We always talk about something to do with John Lennon- Yeah ... or The Beatles. He pops up everywhere ... Whatever Gets You Through the Night. Whatever gets you through the night. Yep. Yeah. Yep. He- Great song ... he got Elton John to sing harmony vocals and play piano on that track. That's right, 'cause they were quite friendly, weren't they? Yeah, they were good mates. And, Elton John said he'd do it, but if the song became a hit, then he wanted Lennon to get up on stage with him. Oh. And of course it became a hit. And so Lennon was true to his word, got up on stage with Elton John- Mm-hmm at Madison Square Garden. And this was kind of after the Lost Weekend and- Yes ... all that stuff. And so, Lennon- in 1975 recorded Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds- Yes ... with Elton John. Yeah. Yeah. But he was sort of credited as being, his name was Dr. Winston O'Boogie. What, on the album? Yeah. Yeah. So he didn't really want the credits, but you know, the big clue there being Winston, which was- Yeah ... Lennon's middle name. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. After Winston Churchill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, basically they then did that, appearance together, and I think that was the last live appearance that John Lennon ever gave. Yeah. What an interesting life he had. Yeah. All too short ... is it true his mother, like I read his mother got killed by a, was it an off-duty policeman? This is Julia, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. His mother. Who he wrote the song Julia about. Yeah. Yeah. I know losing her had a really profound effect on him, interesting times. Yeah. Interesting people. Yeah. Some other ones that you might not know. I mean, I, I think everyone knows that on Money for Nothing, Dire Straits. Yep. Sting, obviously. Yeah. But, Alanis Morissette, so on her hit, well, on a number of the hits on her Jagged Little Pill album- Yeah Dave Navarro, the guitarist from Jane's Addiction- Yes ... and Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers, they actually were the backing- Oh, goodness ... the Squeeze song Tempted, which is one of my all-time favourites. You know, tempted by the fruit of another. Yes. Which is just an awesome song. Yeah, it is. Paul Carrack is the kind of the lead singer on that. But Glenn Tilbrook, their main singer also sings on it. But in the second verse it's Elvis Costello. He just pops up. He's a dude. I love Elvis Costello. We saw him at Festival Hall. Yeah. We went and saw him and it was a great place to see him- Yeah ... because it's just a small venue- Yeah ... for a concert. And he had the turning thing- Oh, the big wheel ... the big wheel. Yeah. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Mm. And whatever song it landed on- Mm ... he played. Mm. Now if he ticked it round again and it landed on the same song, he'd do the song- Yeah ... but just do it differently. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what comes with confidence, hey. Yes. Some other ones that people might not know, there's a Blink-182 song called All Of This and I guess Blink-182 are kind of known as sort of meathead punk pop. Yeah. You know, nothing too serious. But this song's actually really good and it's probably because Robert Smith from The Cure is the guest vocalist on it. And when you hear it you go, "Oh, yeah, this is such a Robert Smith wheelhouse kind of a song." Wow. But it's cool. I'll have to listen to it- So Blink-182 because I haven't heard that. Yeah. Well, you find all this stuff on YouTube. It's wonderful. Yeah. Night Swimming by R.E.M. Yeah. This is the one that is, a very kind of orchestral thing. It's a pretty serious song about, you know, a memorial to your youth and cherishing past memories and that sort of stuff. But they collaborated with John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin- Oh, wow ... who did all the orchestrating and the arranging and, it's just great and they reckon without him sort of having that input it wouldn't have been anything like that. That little touch. Yeah, terrific ... he's terrific. I mean, he's had such a good solo career and he did stuff with, you know, Them Crooked Vultures and all that. They must see things, you know, like- Yeah. Well, that's, such an emotional song. Yeah. I think he's gone, "We're gonna throw all the strings at it," you know? Yeah. It's, it's a pretty good way to do it. Terrific. Yeah. Oasis, Champagne Supernova. I don't know why I'm laughing at those two. Yeah. The interesting thing here is Paul Weller from The Jam- Ah ... yeah, plays lead guitar on that. Oh, sort of about two-thirds of the way through there's a terrific kind of a lead thing happening, and that's actually Paul Weller playing that. And Noel Gallagher's also playing lead, so there's- Yeah ... twin lead guitar thing happening. But yeah. It must be nice. It's like I saw that, that Beatles thing, you know, when they recorded it and they just filmed. Get Back when they sang on the roof. But the leading up to that- Yeah and they introduced Billy Preston. Yeah, right. And they just sort of said, "Oh, can you get this guy, Billy Preston? He's the keyboard player for Ray Charles." And I thought, "Well, Billy Preston." And then he comes and they have a jam session. Mm. And it just lifts the band so much- Yeah ... that they even want him as the fifth Beatle. Yeah. Like- Yeah ... and you, and you can understand. You're listening to it and you think, "That sounds so good." Yeah. But it's just that little bit of something that makes things different. It's good. Yeah,... it's just magic, isn't it, all that stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people probably know, but Dave Grohl, was the drummer with Queens of the Stone Age back- Yep in the start of the century. He got to kind of really show his drumming chops on that with stuff like No One Knows- Mm ... and Hanging Tree. And, at the time I don't think the Foo Fighter guys were too happy, but, Dave Grohl…. If people want Dave Grohl, they get Dave Grohl. Yeah. He's another legend that I just, he's terrific for the industry. Yeah. I mean, he's clean. Yeah. He's positive. Yeah, absolutely. And he just does good stuff. Well, there's a David Bowie song that, Dave Grohl plays lead on. A Bowie? Yeah. And it, and the reason he's on there is totally because Bowie phoned him and said, "Wanna come play on this song?" And he went, "Yeah." Imagine getting that phone call. Yeah. Imagine if they rang me and said, "Come and play." I'd say, "You gotta be kidding me." "I think you've got the wrong number." It's a cool song. It's called I've Been Waiting For You. Yeah. It's, it's from the Heathen album. I haven't heard it. Yeah. Well, it, it's a cover. It's on Neil Young's first album. Oh, wow. And Bowie just does this cover and it's great, and it's like, yeah, well, if, if Bowie wants you, Bowie gets you sort of thing. Yeah, of course. That's really good. Yeah. Like, it's definitely worth listening to. Yeah. I've Been Waiting For You. And speaking of David Bowie- Mm-hmm ... here's one that people might not know. So his song Let's Dance. Yeah. Put on your red shoes and- Yep. Yeah. That, was that the one he did out back? Yeah. Yes. I got it ... with the film clips in Australia. Yeah, in that pub. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Mm. So on the actual recording for that one, that's Stevie Ray Vaughan- Oh, wow ... playing guitar, yeah. So he was working with Nile Rodgers, who does all the kind of funky kind of rhythm guitar on it. But, yeah, Bowie wanted Stevie Ray Vaughan, so he got Stevie Ray Vaughan. Because he said this, needs a really kind of a bluesy treatment. Yeah. And so yeah, he wanted him to join the band, but Stevie Ray Vaughan literally just had the debut album with Texas Flood and wouldn't do it. But, um, yeah. Wow. Bowie got some very cool people to work with him. Imagine if he’d actually joined the band but. I know. Yeah. Yeah, that's right, yeah. He may have still been around. Yeah, you never know. That's the thing. Mm. Probably the most famous and unknown credit, and this is a bit weird, but The Beach Boys on that Smiley Smile album. There's a song on that called Vegetables, it's kind of an a cappella thing, and instead of, drums- Mm ... the rhythm is created by people chomping. Okay. And so they're chomping carrots and celery and stuff. Really? Paul McCartney is one of the celery chompers on that. You're kidding me. No. So again maybe just in the right place at the right time or maybe he was hungry or something, but yeah, they asked him to be a, a carrot chewer. And a celery chewer ... maybe it's why it didn't take off, Al. I don't know. It's kind of weird. It's everything you'd expect from a kind of a drug-fuelled '60s thing. Yeah, I was gonna say that may have had something to do with it. Yeah. I've got a great idea. But, you know, Grab a piece of carrot and follow me. That's right. Have to tune up first. Yeah. Give us an apple. But there's actually, loads of examples of, McCartney and Lennon kind of guesting on things and not being credited. So there's a Rolling Stones song from 1967 called We Love You. Mm-hmm. And, yeah, Lennon and McCartney sang just backing vocals for them. And then sometime later, Brian Jones, so it must have been late '60s, he's actually the one who plays sax on You Know My Name , which was like the B side when they released Let It Be- Yeah ... in 1970. So, you know, these people- they probably never want their names credited, you know? Must be funny now looking at each other now. Like, they knew each other, like The Stones and The Beatles. Yeah. McCartney and Mick. I think they even wrote one of their hits, didn't they? The Beatles wrote ….Yes, they did ... The Stones hit. Yeah. I, I Wanna Be Your Man. Yeah. Just gave hits- left right and centre, yeah. So, and then to see each other now- Yeah ... still doing it. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. I mean, interesting. I reckon. A couple of others. So Werewolves Of London. Uh-huh. Warren Zevon. Yep. The rhythm section for that is Mick Fleetwood and John McVie from Fleetwood Mac. Oh, wow. Yeah. So- Another good song another good song. Another, you know, a just good band obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Dead Ringer For Love, Meat Loaf, has actually got Cher doing backing vocals on that one. Yeah. You know he actually fell off the stage? Fell off the stage. Broke his leg. Oh, he's a character. Yeah, so like there's a, there's a load of these. Speaking of Michael Jackson though, Sheryl Crow was the backing singer with his Bad world tour. Mm. Yeah. And, little sidetrack on that one, so, Sheryl Crow's song If It Makes You Happy- Mm-hmm ... the drummer on that is Taylor Hawkins. Oh, okay. The late, great Taylor Hawkins from- Yeah ... Foo Fighters. Yeah. Yeah. Um- Jeez ... look, loads of these things. Richard Marx, so his very first single, Don't Mean Nothing. Mm. He got, Joe Walsh to play slide guitar on that, and Joe Walsh just did it for the fun of it and- Yeah didn't want any payment or anything. But, again, pretty good get because that's his first song, right? Yeah. First record, no one knew him. Yeah. Yeah. Bryan Adams, he got Lou Gramm to sing backing vocals on a lot of his songs like Cuts Like a Knife. Yep. Yeah, so Lou Gramm from Foreigner. Yep. He was just in the studio and, you know some of the vocalists had fallen ill, so he just sort of stepped in and did it and didn't ask for payment or anything, so. A lot of these people are very cool the way they just- They are ... they just step in and help people out and- Yeah ... and they probably just like music, right? Yeah, they do, and it would be fun. Yeah, I reckon. If there's no pressure. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's no pressure at all. Yeah. Especially if you're not getting paid for it. Yeah, well that's right. And you probably don't think it's gonna go anywhere anyway- Yeah ... anyway, right? Good Times by the mighty Hoodoo Gurus. The backing vocals on that one are done by the girls from The Bangles. Really? So you can really hear Susanna Hoffs and co. in the background there. They were just mates with the band and jumped in the studio and recorded that one Who else we got Al? Oh, Jimmy Page was very famous as a session muso long before The Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin and all that. He was on all sorts of songs like Marianne Faithfull's As Time Goes By, and Tom Jones' It's Not Unusual. I was gonna say Tom Jones. I heard something about that. Yeah. Um, but one that he was on that you would like, and, like, he was on The Who and The Kinks- Yeah ... and all that. But you being a big Joe Cocker fan, he played guitar on With a Little Help From My Friends. Did he really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. 'Cause With a Little Help From My Friends, was that with The Mad Dogs and Englishmen? Yeah, well that was that tour, yeah. That was a terrific band. And it's got that wailing guitar- Yeah ... sort of intro on it, yeah. And Leon Russell. Yeah. And he wore the big Uncle Sam hat. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. What a great band. Yeah. So, at least for the recording, Jimmy Page was the guitarist for that song. Wow, I didn't know that. Mm. So there you go. There's a load more, but that's a pretty good summary of people that you might not have known- You know what, Al? ... guest appeared on things. Mm. There's a lot I don't know. Me too, until I look it up. I wish I knew more. Yeah. Oh, well.      Hey, Mart, something that we did in some of our earlier episodes was to talk about where popular sayings come from….. Catchphrases. Exactly Okay And we thought, there's so many of them, we thought we'd maybe sprinkle a few of those across the next few episodes. Sounds like a good idea, Al. I reckon. So what's the first one? In no particular order. The idea of riding shotgun. You know, you hear people saying, "Oh, I'm in the passenger seat, I'm riding shotgun." Yeah. the thinking is that it goes back to the old stagecoach days. Yeah. Yeah, so somebody who sat next to the driver would be armed with a shotgun to protect from robbers and, you know, people holding up the stagecoach. What a heavy job that would've been. Oh, God. It's like we live in a bubble. Don't we? My goodness. Sitting on a stagecoach waiting for someone to come out of the bush and say, "Stand and deliver." Yeah, exactly. And you've gotta shoot him. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, so that's riding shotgun. Yeah. Show your true colours is a good one. Okay. And obviously this means sort of showing what your real character is- Yeah ... and your real intentions. Apparently this one goes back to the days when warships would use multiple flags. Okay. To confuse people about which, which, ship that or which country that ship might belong to. You're kidding. They'd have like all the flags and they'd just put it up? Yeah. But apparently- Wow ... the rules of warfare dictated that you couldn't be fired upon or you couldn't fire- Mm ... until you actually displayed which flag represented your, your fleet or- Yeah ... your country or your armada or whatever it is, which was displaying your true colours. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So they could put up like a hospital ship type thing. Yeah. And- Yeah ... just say like, "Hey," and then sneak in. Well, that's crazy. Yeah. And a lot of that stuff went on obviously even, you know, as recently as the Second World War. So that's show your true colours. It's either that or it dates back to Cyndi Lauper. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think I trust that one better. You go with that one? Yeah. Yeah. I would too, yeah. True Colours. Don't be knocking Cyndi now. No. She's just having fun. Yeah, exactly. And she's a girl. Yeah. That's right. All the ingredients. Mm. But while we're on board ships. Yeah. Son of a gun. Son of a gun. Yeah, son of a gun, which is kind of an affectionate way of addressing someone. Yeah. But apparently it dates back to when sailors would kind of smuggle their wives or girlfriends on board for long sea voyages. You're... Get out. No. They'd just hide them away. Yeah. Like in a barrel or something. ... If they did get away with smuggling their wife and/or girlfriend onto long voyages- Yeah If they then became pregnant, if they were going to give birth on the ship they decided that it should take place between the cannons on the gun deck because that was the most secluded place. So for that reason a child that was born on a ship would be called a son of a gun. Oh, geez. Son of a gun. Yeah. Wow. There you go. And do you know why pirates, you know the patch on pirate’s eyes? Mm-hmm. Wasn’t because they had their eye poked out, you know? What was it? Well, it's because they were continuously going from up the deck to down below deck. Uh-huh. It's pitch dark. Yeah. They keep the patch over their eye so when they went, they'd have the one eye for up on the deck, and then they'd go down below and they'd flick, close the other eye and flick the other patch up. Oh, wow. So that eye was sort of like used to the dark. Wow. That's a good sidetrack. It's got nothing to do with son of a gun. Well, that's pretty good. I like that. Yeah. Oh, listen, while we're on board, it feels like this one's becoming a very maritime episode all of a sudden. Yeah. Under the weather. Mm-hmm. So in the 1800s when the British Navy was, you know, ruling the waves. If sailors on board ship would fall ill- Yeah ... they'd be sent below decks because that would get them out of the sun or out of the rain or the spray or what have you. And that was they were sent below decks to get under the weather. Oh, wow. So when they were crook. And now you have, you know, one sherbet too many and you feel under the weather. I think a lot of these sayings came from on board ship. Well, based on the last few they do. He who laughs last, laughs loudest. I've got one more maritime-based one though. Okay. And I'm pretty well out then. Yep. But, to your notion of eye patches, to turn a blind eye is to pretend not to notice, right? Yes. So apparently, or they believe that this goes back to the naval hero Horatio Nelson, okay? Who was supposed to have a blind eye, be blind in one eye, and so he would use his blind eye to look through his telescope. Yeah and that way he was able to avoid signals from a superior who maybe wanted him to withdraw from battle. Oh- So- My goodness. So he would just go on an attack. Yeah. And, you know, won all these sea battles and things. Yeah. But apparently he would just pretend that he didn't see them because he was turning a blind eye. Yeah. Goodness gracious me. Yes. Aren't they great? It's pretty cool. Yeah. I can, I can kind of build some sort of a naval aspect into this. Sure you can. Bite the bullet. Mm-hmm. Which nowadays means doing something you don't really want to do, it's unpleasant or- hesitating and you know. .. just bite the bullet and do it. That's it. So back in the day, obviously there was no, there was either no anaesthetic or there was no time to administer anaesthetic. Yeah ... when they were performing surgeries and things. Or they didn't have it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So sadly, and, you know, maybe they were on a ship or maybe they weren't, but patients were made to, made to bite down on a bullet to distract themselves. Wow. You know, maybe get a shot of whiskey or something and- Yeah. And bite the bullet ... bite the bullet and then they'd cut your leg off. Cut your leg off. Or whatever. Well, that would be fun, wouldn't it? Yeah. That's, that's the downside of, being on a ship- Yeah ... in the old days. Going to battle without anaesthetic- Yeah or any kind of... antiseptic or….no, they were in trouble if they got hurt, that's for sure. Here's another one that's aquatically based. Selling someone down the river. Ah. Okay? So basically betraying someone and benefitting yourself. Yeah. And this comes from the 19th century in the southern states of the US. Yep. Deep in the down south Yeah. Back then it was illegal to import slaves. But there would be internal trading that happened, and people would actually ship slaves down the Mississippi River to sell at the market, which is just bloody awful. Yeah. But that's basically where selling someone down the river comes from. Ugh, goodness. Yeah, which is just hideous. It's horrible to think of, but it's still happening now in certain parts of the world. Well, yeah. That's certainly, horrible to think about. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. We're a crazy race of people. Aren't we what? Any more, Al? Oh, look one last one. To paint the town red. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Which means going out and having a fat time. Yeah. There's a couple of thoughts on this one. The first one is that the Marquis of Waterford in 1837 had a big night out with his friends, and at the time they knocked over flower pots and pulled knockers off doors and even broke windows. And one of the biggest acts of vandalism was painting doors of several houses- Yeah ... with red paint. So that was where that came from. The other one, which sounds maybe more realistic, is that it might have come from all the brothels in the American Wild West, where they described drunk men as behaving as if the whole town was a red light district. Oh, okay. Yeah. Ugh. Yeah. Well, wasn't there a Clint Eastwood movie ... a Clint Eastwood movie? Yeah, I know. I was gonna say. Yeah. You can't talk about painting the town red without talking about High Plains Drifter. Yes. One of the great Clint Eastwood movies. You know, I haven't seen it- Oh ... but I've heard about it. You've gotta see it, mate. It's really- I've gotta see it ... it's so good. I gots to know. You gots to know. How do I summarise? Look, for anyone who hasn't seen High Plains Drifter, it's a very cool movie. Basically, it's a guy without a name. Yeah. Which he often plays that sort of character. Yeah, he's the guy without a name. He sort of comes into this mining town called Lago and some gunmen try and kill him, and he just sort of decimates them straight away. Yeah. And they go, "Wow, this guy's good. We should get him to be our Sheriff because, there's some ne'er-do-wells who are looking to come back to town. Mm-hmm. You know, the townspeople were pretty hopeless and they, so they make him the sheriff. And, he's gonna look after these outlaws Mm-hmm So he kind of does all this kooky stuff. He makes this little dwarf fellow, a little person, uh- Let's not go down the little person road again. He makes him the deputy. Yeah. And he kind of lives large on it, you know? So he's eating well and all that sort of stuff. But what the townsfolk forget is that there had been a loner who'd been taken out in the street and whipped to death. Yeah. Literally to death? ... Literally to death, and they all just stood there and watched it. They did nothing to help. Yep. And the whole inference of the movie is that it's him. It's payback. He's kind of come back. So they say, "Oh, you know, you're gonna protect us when these outlaws come back." And he goes, "Yeah, sure. Um, first thing I want you to do-is……I bet he didn't say, "Yeah, sure." I bet he went, "Yeah- Yeah ... sure." As he was biting the end of his cigar- Yeah, exactly ... and spitting it out. Yeah. Well, he says to them, "Here's what I want you to do. I want you to paint the entire town red." Yeah. Right? So everything is red. Oh, wow And he gets them all to perch up on top of the inn, and you know, all these shooting positions. Yeah. And then when they yell out and say, "Oh, you know, here come the outlaws," he just gets on his horse and rides off. So when he comes back they say, "Oh, but we didn't even know, what were you doing? We don't even know your name." And he goes, "No, you know my name. Oh. And then he sets fire to the whole town- Yeah which is all painted red, Sorry. Spoiler alert deluxe! It's as Clint can only do. Oh, it's very cool. Yeah. And it's really kind of spooky, 'cause it's like is he a ghost or not, you know? But yeah, you need to see it, 'cause it's a very cool movie. Sounds like a... Was it a spaghetti? It was made in the US. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it wasn't a spaghetti. No. And it was filmed, like they built the entire town, and they built it at a, it's like a beach- Mm ... somewhere, you know, out on a plain. Wow. It's called High Plains Drifter, and it's- Okay but it's just, you know, it's in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. You gots to see it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, there's, uh, there's a sidetrack, and there's a bunch of sayings. Really good.   Okay, Al Mm-hmm. Fast facts. What have we got? Fast fact. This is a fast fact, but this is a bit of a mind bender. So Bill Wyman from the Rolling Stones, the bass player. Bass player for the Rolling Stones, yeah. Yes. At 52 he married, his girlfriend at the time, Mandy Smith. Mm. Now she was 18, right? Yeah. And it was, it was a big deal- Yeah, I remember at the time. Yeah Everyone went wild, you know. Big difference. Yeah. So then- Is that what they said? Oh, what a lucky guy. Well, there was that. Well, for a moment. Everyone just went, "Oh, Bill, you've done it again." Yeah. Oh, I read his book, Stone Alone. Yeah, honestly, it's fantastic. Yeah? It's so good, yeah. Anyway, that's a sidetrack. Anyway, the marriage, broke down- Mm ... after about a year. Oh, I wonder why. Here’s the mind-bending bit. Mm. So Bill's 30-year-old son- Yeah ... his name is Steven, married her mother. Okay. So what does that make Bill? So she was 46. Mm. All right? So that meant that Bill became the father-in-law to his own ex-wife's mother, and he was also the step-grandfather to his own ex-wife. And his son Steven became stepfather to his former stepmother. And if Bill and Mandy had remained married, then Steven would have been his father's father-in-law and his own grandfather. Wow. Shimmin' Scandal in the family. Yeah, a little bit. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. So he's the step-grandfather of his former wife. Uh-huh. Far out. His brother's mother's sister's father's uncle's- Yeah geez. He's had a good life, old Bill, hasn't he? Oh, I reckon. What was the song? I, it was going around in my head before- Oh ... but I've completely lost it ... Je Suis Un Rock Star. Oh, that's it, Je Suis Un Rock Star. Yeah. What a, oh, man, he'd be set up…. For people who maybe don't remember the Rolling Stones as well or what have you, Bill Wyman was the bass player, but, Yeah he said, "You know what? I've had enough of this." Yeah. "I don't want to tour. I want to just enjoy"- Je Suis Un Rock Star ... "doing what I do." So he left, but he's had a very good life. Yeah. I don't think he'll sort of have many regrets when it's time to go. He was a pretty sleepy sort of a guy in the background, wasn't he? Yeah. Like in comparison- He was ... to see Jagger running around everywhere and yeah. Yeah. I love Bill. He's a beauty. Yeah. Anyway, fast fact. There you go. That's a great fast fact, Al. Probably time for us to go, Mart. Yeah. Okay. That's sad. It is sad. Now it's time to say goodbye. Yes, to everyone. No, to all the family. Oh, sorry. Yeah. 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