NBA Injuries Meet AI Officiating And Real Life Lessons

One bad call can flip a season, and it drives every sports fan a little insane. We start with the NBA playoff picture, the West loading up, and the harsh reality that injuries do not care about storylines, especially when you are asking a veteran star to carry a team. From there we slide into baseball, where automated strike challenges are forcing the question: do we actually want perfect calls, or do we just want fewer disastrous ones?

That turns into a deeper debate about AI referees, replay review, and consistency across the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Baseball feels easiest to automate, but football and basketball live in the gray area where contact and judgment calls are the whole game. We kick around what a real solution could look like, including a limited system to correct only the most egregious no-calls without turning every snap into a courtroom. Then we move into college sports, NIL, transfer portal rules, and the weird incentives that come with money, eligibility loopholes, and constant movement.

After the sports talk, we get into real life: Easter food and family traditions, parenting conversations about choices and urgency, work updates and interviews, and why the skilled trades are desperate for people who will show up and learn. We wrap with a nostalgia run through Nickelodeon brackets and TGIF favorites, because sometimes the best way to end a serious talk is with the shows that raised us. Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review, then tell us what you want fixed first: officiating, NIL rules, or both?

Transcript

Cold Open And Courtside Chaos

SPEAKER_04 0:01

We're not done. Get out. What a perfect time to end the podcast. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 0:27

She had the super RBF when I walked up to the car.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Are you recording that? That was the first thing that got recorded. Wow, that was not a good effort by Dante. I don't know what's going on with these people. Miles. Same thing. Miles Bridges. Julius Rondo. I think the Lakers are fucked. Yeah, I saw the.

SPEAKER_06 1:08

I don't have any cord here. What the fuck's going on here?

unknown 1:12

Ouch.

SPEAKER_04 1:13

I can wave it over. I'm good right there. Anyway, I think the Lakers are fucked. Yeah, Doncic. What happened anyway? Hamston's grade two. Grade two tear.

SPEAKER_06 1:23

Grade two tear. Oof. And uh Austin Reeves is out too with some sort of broken finger or finger legament or sand.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Sure. Sand. You don't need your finger to shoot a basketball. You kind of do. Not one. I mean you need more than one, but if one is hurt, meh. It depends on which hand it is. It's pretty pivotal. You you do. For a player like him. I was being facetious.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Fastius. Why can't like Rudy Gobert go out? Because he's a giraffe.

SPEAKER_06 1:59

I just don't understand. I don't I don't get it. Oh, open three. Guess who was supposed to guard him?

SPEAKER_04 2:04

Rudy Gobert.

SPEAKER_06 2:05

Wow. Shocker.

SPEAKER_04 2:07

Nash Bridges again.

SPEAKER_06 2:09

Miles.

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Yeah.

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Sure.

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Calling him Nash Bridges.

SPEAKER_06 2:12

Wasn't that a TV show on the USA?

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That's why I'm saying it.

SPEAKER_06 2:14

Don Johnson?

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Fucking, yeah.

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Cheech Maron. Cheech Marin, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good show.

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Yeah. It's a good old guy past the time show. He drove a yellow convertible.

SPEAKER_06 2:30

And that was after his Miami Vice days.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Yes. Ooh, Miami Vice.

SPEAKER_05 2:37

I could go for a Miami Vice right now.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

If it was hot out. It's hot. The sun was shining today. It doesn't mean it's hot. It's all relative. Sure.

unknown 2:53

Regardless.

SPEAKER_04 2:54

One could argue that even below zero Fahrenheit is very hot compared to literally most of everything in existence right now.

SPEAKER_06 3:05

You're not wrong. You are not wrong.

Back Again And Checking Downloads

SPEAKER_00 3:10

I like I like peach flavored anything anything. So welcome back to Bostu Boys. Boston.

SPEAKER_04 3:26

Yeah, I'll dub in the intro this time. Last time it was it was alright that we'd planned it just because welcome back and everything.

SPEAKER_06 3:35

It sounds good. Sounds good.

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Yeah, it sounded good. It sounded really good. Sounded really good.

NBA Playoff Picture And Lakers Worry

Baseball Season Fatigue And Twins Talk

SPEAKER_06 3:40

I think I checked our downloads. I think we were at like 15, 20 for that welcome back episode. That's not bad. No, not bad at all. Just getting it out there again and Oh my god. It's delicious. It's delicious. It'd be even more delicious on a nice warm day. How do they make it so sweet with no sugar? Artificial flavoring. So it looks like the uh NBA playoffs are starting to kind of seed themselves here. Detroit got the number one seed in the East. But nobody really gives a shit about the East because it's gonna be a cakewalk for any good team. But whoever comes out of the West is definitely gonna win that again. Could be KOC or OKC, not KOC. Oklahoma City. San Antonio looks good with Wemby, the alien. Minnesota is looking decent. As long as they get healthy. They just need to be healthy going into the playoffs. And yeah, there's quite a few teams, and I know we just like the Lakers. Losing Luca and Austin Reeves is gonna be hard for 40-some-year-old LeBron to carry the Lakers into and through the playoffs. It's gonna be difficult for them. And that's okay. Baseball, the twins are the twins. Haven't really watched much. They were on behind me at the Easter buffet.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

I was watching The Wild win.

SPEAKER_06 5:04

The Wild did win. I know.

SPEAKER_04 5:06

5-4? Yeah. They made it interesting. They were happy.

AI Strike Challenges And The Human Element

SPEAKER_06 5:10

Yeah, 4-1, that's what I saw. I don't know. The twins are the twins. They're gonna I think they'll be okay for a while. How about releasing those twins? But a baseball's such a long season. It's so hard to stay engaged for 162 games like that. Well, did you see that they have that new challenge system with the home plate with strikes and balls? Do you know which team leads the league in challenges?

SPEAKER_04 5:48

Uh whichever team has Angel Hernandez as the umpire.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

The Twins. The Twins lead the league as of yesterday, I think I saw they lead the league in uh replays on a ball uh ball strike call.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

And then uh I can't remember which manager it was for what team got kicked out arguing the AI system on a ball strike call. That's which was counterproductive. And yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:21

I don't know. I I don't like I don't like taking the human element out of it. I really don't for whatever reason. I just I I like having that in sports. I think the replay and stuff like that has its place. I think you and I touched on this in a previous episode.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

We have like with football they have watered down calls so bad that it's just so offense-oriented.

SPEAKER_06 6:52

And they tried to kind of fix it with like the pass interference replay and yeah things like that. But you you're you can't do that. I just I don't agree with it for the simple fact if you take that human element out of it, what what are we doing? You might as well just have robots out there and just have them scan everything and call everything.

SPEAKER_04 7:12

I'm hyperlogical. I like the idea of not having any errors. Because if you blame it, like you can if you can narrow down the result of a game to one person that's not playing in the game.

SPEAKER_06 7:27

I don't like But it's it's not black and white.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

No, you're right. So there's When you have that, it's black and white, but I think I but I think there's there's room for I I think there's room for improvement on making it more black and white. And and I think a lot of it uh like yes, judgment wise.

SPEAKER_06 7:54

You call pass interference on any pass downfield.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

Yeah. Oh yeah, 100%. You call holding so every place that's why that's why I agree with you that it's not black and white, because there there is like a threshold that they have to break where it's like, okay, some contact is okay, but not all contact is okay. So define what's okay and what's not okay. Exactly. So you can't have an AI do that consistently. However, when there is an abysmal call, you could have something that corrects that call or a no call. If it's it I'm not saying use it all the time. I think we need human like I would never I would never be in support of getting rid of the human element of referee. However, here's the go ahead, sorry. That's okay. However, to make things right would be a step in the right direction with a bad, awful, terrible call.

SPEAKER_06 8:55

Do you know what the only sport, in my opinion, and you might agree or disagree, the only sport where you could have complete AI control of calls is baseball. Oh, a hundred percent. Balls and stripes.

SPEAKER_04 9:12

Well, and you could even go one further or safe. You could have a sensor in the ball, sensor in the bases. Yes. You would you would know exactly when the ball hit the glove, you would know exactly when the shoe hit the base, you would know exactly everything could be synced up and it could be perfection. Baseball is the only thing, because it's non-contact. Right. You it it you can't do a contact sport. You the it'd be impossible. The only thing contact-wise would be like fencing, and they already do that. Correct. Yep, they already use electronics and AI.

Fixing Egregious NFL No Calls

SPEAKER_06 9:49

I I just with football, you need to be able to. I'll use a play as an example. When I believe it was Kirk Cousins almost got his helmet ripped off in the end zone.

SPEAKER_04 10:00

Was it Darnold? In the end zone.

SPEAKER_06 10:02

In the end zone, and it was an incomplete pass or picked off or whatever it was. It was not it wasn't to the Vikings.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

It wasn't favorable for the Vikings.

SPEAKER_06 10:11

And there was no call on the fate grabbing the face mask in the end zone, which in their rules is a 15 or 10 yard, or whatever the penalty is, but it's an automatic first.

SPEAKER_04 10:21

That would have been a 15-yard automatic first up.

SPEAKER_06 10:24

Yes. No call. We lose the game. Yes. I don't remember how many.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

By a sh small issue. Was it three? It was a small enough margin for that to alter the course of the game.

SPEAKER_06 10:34

And there's calls where, you know, helmet to helmet, they review that. You know, I don't like reviewing pass interference because it's such a judgment call. I agree. And if you're letting things go, I agree. All game, you have to let that go in the last two nights.

SPEAKER_04 10:52

I think that leads to I I think that also leads to more entertaining football when you have this set of refs that's going to be like extra strict in the secondary and they're going to say, all right, hands off, it's going to be a it's going to be a pretty boring game in the secondary. Or you have this other crew that's let's play. Hey, you guys don't get too rough, but play football, you know, and that's that's what makes it more interesting because it's so dynamic one way or the other.

SPEAKER_06 11:19

But but you need to be more consistent in the playoff atmosphere. So or or a a game where it's gonna clinch a playoff spot or a division or whatever, something like that. Yeah. You have to have consistency. There needs to be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

What if I posed this to you? If you had so like they send it to New York or whatever, the officials in New York watch the replays. What if we had a panel, a group of officials, senior officials, call it the board of directors of the officials, and say there's five of them, an odd number, and you get a call like Darnold in the end zone, or a no-call like Darnold in the end zone, and they watch the replay and they vote, and they say, All right, four out of the five of us say that call needs to be made, and then they they make that decision on the spot, and they say, That was a bad call, we're overturning it.

SPEAKER_06 12:13

Well, and I I think that's a start because how how many are there? Six? I don't know. For officials on the field?

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Yeah. You have two lines, one back, one ref, and one yeah, so six, five, whatever, it's five or six.

SPEAKER_06 12:30

And a white hat. So the guy in the white hat has the microphone and hears everything, he has the earpiece, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think that that is a start. Because they can't see everything. No, you can't. It it happens so fast.

SPEAKER_04 12:47

Correct. And that's okay that they can't see everything, but if something happens that's egregious, it needs to be and if they didn't see it, fine, they're forgiven. But we have the technology nowadays where we can see it. Right. And then when when the fans see it, it just leads to all kinds of animosity and stress.

SPEAKER_06 13:08

And they showed that play how many times over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

It's like, yeah. No shit. And you understand how they didn't see it because the guy had the one of the blockers was directly in front of the back judge or the umpire. Whoever so the umpire could not see Darnold. He had no clear line of sight to Darnold. The line judges aren't they're not watching that. Is that what they're called? LJs? Line judges? Yep. Yeah, they're not watching that part of the field. Yeah, the back judges. That's all the back judge or the umpire or whoever you want to, whatever, but it's like you can't have eyes everywhere at once. But if something serious like that happens and we have it on camera, there needs to be a procedure where somebody somewhere, I don't care if it's the producer of a prime time. Yeah, NBC. If he says, no, no, this is what we see, this is what millions of people see, right? This needs to be made right.

SPEAKER_06 14:00

Or late hits or you know, anything like that.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

And I because people have been fined for stuff that wasn't called in the game. Right. They have been later after the fact after the fact there's no call in the game, and then two days later the NFL issues them a fine for their behavior because they review it. If it was a cheap shot or whatever it might be. Yep. They get fined 50 grand two days later, but oh, we didn't call a penalty on that. Right, right. It's like that's unbelievable. There were instances where Kirk and Darnold, both on the Vikings, had helmet to helmet collisions with defenders. The defenders targeted them, no call, but you fucking breathe on Pushy Rogers the wrong way, and he gets a call.

SPEAKER_06 14:44

Or Mahomes or Brady.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

Any one of those quarterbacks.

SPEAKER_06 14:47

That's because those guys make the NFL more money.

SPEAKER_04 14:51

Kirk Cousins just signed a 20 million guaranteed one-year contract up to 186 million over four four or five years. Four years, yeah. That's not little money. His agent needs to be in the NFL Hall of Food. I saw that. I saw that.

SPEAKER_06 15:06

How much fucking money dude is made or whatever with one playoff?

SPEAKER_04 15:09

Kirk Cousins' agent is like holy fucking shit.

SPEAKER_06 15:14

And he's good, don't get me wrong. Like Kirk Cousins is good. He's a serviceable quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

He's not terrible, but god damn, he's not a hundred and eighty-six million dollar quarterback.

SPEAKER_06 15:24

Not to mention the Raiders have the number one pick. They're gonna pick Mendoza out of Indiana. Yeah. So you're gonna pay Kirk Cousins$180 million for four years with the$20. Well, 20 is guaranteed. Whatever.

SPEAKER_04 15:35

One year 20 million is guaranteed.

SPEAKER_06 15:37

Well, and Atlanta's paying like a stupid amount of that first year. Oh, yeah. And the Raiders are only paying like four million. Yeah. Or three million dollars.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

They did some weird salary cap shit too.

SPEAKER_06 15:48

Which is good for him, man. Good for Kirk. I mean, hey man. Whatever. But even with basketball, with officiating, like they went from two refs to three refs.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:00

And they still miss shit. And I and I believe the th the move to three is really good. However, I think a fourth one would be even better. 100% because then you catch more. You cut the court in quarters, you watch your quad, and that's what you watch.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

Yeah, they would they would definitely be able to catch a lot more. However, I something about basketball, just in the last few years, it could be a little bandwagon-y because the T-Wolves got good. Right. But I'm I'm in it for basketball, and I've never liked it. I haven't liked the NBA since Latrell Sprewell and Wally Zerbiak. Like even then. Even then, I was fucking 10, whatever, how old ever old I was. It was oh three. 2003. Yeah, so I was 13 years old. I didn't watch a game of the regular season, I just watched the playoffs.

SPEAKER_06 16:53

So they got mollywapped by the Lakers. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:56

I I mean I I was never an NBA fan, and I don't even know why, because it's it's freaking entertaining.

College Sports NIL And Transfer Limits

SPEAKER_06 17:03

I prefer college. I know. I like the NBA, but I do prefer college. Um I just don't the women's game has evolved so much.

SPEAKER_04 17:12

I just feel like there's so many college teams.

SPEAKER_06 17:15

It's like it's there is insane. That's why I kind of stick to the the Homer.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

And I feel like it's so political with like which conference is what and how many teams are in this conference, and this conference has these recruits and well and now with NIL and the transfer portal, it's getting worse. Yeah, it's it it's not it's not what it used to be, where you guys and especially back when we were Did I see a thing that our Lord and Savior president signed like a thing for he signed a bill about colleges and something along the lines is like you can only play five seasons within a five-year period and you can you're limited to one transfer, or was that fake news?

SPEAKER_06 18:00

I didn't see that, but it's possible because they've got guys now that are like twenty-five-twenty-six years old as a sophomore.

SPEAKER_05 18:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:09

Because they'll go out for the draft after, say, their freshman year or sophomore year, yeah, and they don't get drafted, but they go play in the G League, and then they're not any good, so they come back to school and they still have eligibility with a loophole, of course, now. But I mean, these these guys can transfer whenever they want. They don't like the coach, they can transfer. They don't like the playtime, they can transfer.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

It's fucking I remember where I saw it now. It was shared by the NFL memes Facebook page. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:38

And and it was it was like a news snippet that said president guy in charge.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

President guy signed bill or some something like that. Maybe encouraged Congress to start a bit. He anyway, he was on the side of five years, five year period, five seasons. That's all you get, five years. You can start whenever you want. When you're 23, 24, 25, you can start whenever you want. But once you start, you have five years to play five seasons of sports, and you can only transfer once.

SPEAKER_06 19:18

I I like that. And I think John Calipari and Tom Mizzel, a couple of the bigger NCAA coaches, have said this. Like, they've got kids that have had three years of eligibility. They've, you know, they're in their they're going into their junior year, they're on their third school.

SPEAKER_04 19:37

That's unreal.

SPEAKER_06 19:38

They and it's all because they don't like what's going on. So this is what Caliperi said. You can you can start obviously after high school. You commit to a school, they pay you money to come there, they give you an NIL deal. Okay. You want to leave, you want to transfer. You get two transfers. You can transfer because of a coaching change, because of hardship, because of mental health, because of something like that, but you only get to transfer twice. After your second transfer, you have to sit out a year.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:13

And if you get an NIL deal and you spend that money, you then owe that school that money back.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

You have to pay it back.

SPEAKER_06 20:22

Which I think is right. You get an NIL deal to go to the gophers. They they're gonna give you$1.3 million. Hell yeah. Okay? You're not playing, you think you're better than the guy in front of you. And the coach decides, well, I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah. Boom, you transfer. You spent a million dollars of that. They gave you that money already.

SPEAKER_05 20:45

Yeah, now what?

SPEAKER_06 20:47

That that school's out$1.3 million? I don't know, man. I just it it doesn't seem economically okay for a school. It just it doesn't make sense to me.

SPEAKER_04 20:59

Yeah. Well, this is where humans just oh my god, he should not have made that.

SPEAKER_05 21:05

Kobe White.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

But I mean, and then did you see the increase for the for the women's game for the WNBA salaries?

SPEAKER_06 21:15

No. Angel Reese got like a 350% raise. Good for her. Now I wish people would understand.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

Oh my god. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 21:27

I wish people would understand how important, regardless of how good Angle Angel Reese is. Angle. Angle Reese.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

Angle Rice.

SPEAKER_06 21:35

Between her and Caitlin Clark, they're the best thing that's happened to the WNBA ever. Absolutely. Ever. And they are pushing a lot of it on TV, which is fine. And now you know Paige Beckers comes in, and you've got Cardosa coming in, you've got Paige Beckers. You know, the Lynx are doing really well. Brianna Stewart's still playing. You know, they've got a lot of good players that have been there for five, six, seven, ten years. But and now they're getting in. Yeah. They're still beating the shit out of a little white girl that nobody can guard. Uh-huh. They should be thanking her.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

Yeah. Not beating her up. Correct, mundo.

NBA Expansion And Conference Realignment

SPEAKER_06 22:11

And the NBA has held up the WMBA for a lot of years. They have. And now the WNBA is expanding. Two more teams are coming in, which is alright. Dosmas. They're actually talking about putting another two NBA teams in. Seattle and Vegas. Ooh. Vegas, I would say Vegas should have an NBA team. Well, and I think Seattle should too. They have.

SPEAKER_04 22:34

Well, yeah. Any team that's got NHL, NFL, and MLB. Well, Vegas doesn't have MLB, but not yet.

SPEAKER_06 22:41

Well, that's where the athletics are supposed to go.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Yeah. So it's like, I I think you should have that those sports in all every major city.

SPEAKER_06 22:51

The three major sports, baseball, and I'm not, and we're from hockey USA, don't get me wrong. Yeah. Hockey's not basketball.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

Basketball and football.

SPEAKER_06 22:58

Every major city should have one of those two.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

And this is right after like my brain was gonna go on some tirade about greed and capitalism and money with the whole NIL bullshit because money shouldn't be involved that much in college sports, but it is because if if there's a buck to be made, it's a bit you know, humans will be all you know how much Tostitos and FedEx make on those bowl games?

SPEAKER_06 23:24

Oh god, yeah. It's insane. Yeah. You know how much money Alabama makes going to those bowl games, and those kids got zero dollars from that for how many years? Rowtid. Fuck the tide.

SPEAKER_05 23:34

Row tad.

SPEAKER_06 23:35

No. Anyway.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Rowtid.

SPEAKER_06 23:39

But yeah, they're talking about putting Seattle and Vegas for basketball teams professionally. Yeah, that'd be that means two Western teams.

SPEAKER_04 23:49

The A's are rumored to be going to Vegas. Yep. Are they gonna be the Las Vegas A's? Las Vegas Athletics?

SPEAKER_06 23:57

I have no idea. I don't know if they're rebranding or not. Raiders, Kings, A's. Golden Knights. Golden Knights is their hockey. Kings is Kings is the old LA team. Kings is the LA team.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

They're still a thing? Yeah. Vegas was brand new. Yes. There was no transfer. Vegas just spontaneously generated. I believe so. Yeah, because they had the special draft dealio for their expansion draft, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:28

So they're talking about two of the NBA teams in the Western Conference moving to the Eastern Conference.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

To make it more competitive, right?

SPEAKER_06 24:34

Well, the even out the conference, yes. Because Seattle and Vegas are in the West. Right. Now the teams that are rumored to move to the East are the easternmost Western conference teams.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Can you say that again? I got it. I just it sounded cool.

SPEAKER_05 24:53

The easternmost western conference team.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Memphis? Memphis. Timberwolves. Minnesota. Now doing that. Memphis is the West?

SPEAKER_06 25:06

Memphis is a West team right now. Yeah. They're in the Western Conference. And uh and the Timberwolves. What's Milwaukee? East. That's the dumbest thing about the thing. Milwaukee's in the East. Detroit is in the East.

SPEAKER_04 25:18

Yeah, that makes sense. They're on the east side of the Mississippi River.

SPEAKER_06 25:22

What's in the there was another one that's I don't know. But if you put the Timberwolves in the Eastern Conference, now Anthony Edwards stays in Minnesota, they keep rolling like they have been, and say they get to an NBA Finals. Okay. Coming out of the East. Now you could have a matchup with Wemby. Wembyama. You could have a matchup with Luca. Luka Doncic. You could have another matchup with Dallas. Cooper Flag. Dallas Mavericks. Playing against the bigger stars, because most of the stars are or superstars are in the West. Superstar. So that's something that I'd be very excited about if they moved the Timberwolves to the Eastern Conference.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

That would be exciting.

SPEAKER_06 26:19

When the Timberwolves make the NBA finals, you and I are going to get tickets and we are going to go. Yeah, we do. We do do that. Since we've already been to a Western Conference finals. We do do that. We do do that.

SPEAKER_05 26:32

We do we you us.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Us we gotta go to that concert. We're gonna go to my wife and I are going to both of the bigger, quote unquote, bigger concerts there.

SPEAKER_05 26:45

What's the other one? Melissa.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Melissa Joan Hart.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

No, Melissa.

SPEAKER_06 26:54

Melissa Etheridge? Can you name a song that Melissa Etheridge did?

SPEAKER_04 26:58

No.

SPEAKER_06 26:58

Come to my wind!

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

And who's it's Melissa and I don't know if I can do it. I don't know. We'll see. OTA Discovery Center, which is stupid MDC. Um excuse me. Pardon me coming through. Winona Jud.

SPEAKER_06 27:40

Can you name a Winona Jud song?

SPEAKER_04 27:44

Oh my god, that was so we had the Val's Easter buffet for for lunch. What was on the menu? The salade and the the the pasta salad, and then I'm going in order, and then Oh, let's see, after the pasta salad was uh the rigatoni with meatballs, and then a tortellini with some Alfredo sauce. Who'd you go with? My parents and my wife and my grandma and my father-in-law. And then there were some potatoes, like mashed potato things. They were pretty good. And then they had they must have they must have had a lot of boneless wings because they made a chicken, like a sweet chili chicken boneless wing. But they didn't call it that. They called it sweet chili something chicken.

SPEAKER_05 28:46

It was good. That I ate a lot of.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

And then there was some mixed vegetables, and there was ham, and there was Italian seasoned pork, and then New York strip roast.

SPEAKER_06 29:01

You had all that?

SPEAKER_04 29:03

No, I only had New York strip roast, ham, tortellini, potatoes, rigatoni, and meatballs, and dessert.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

And a large glass of Kona Big Wave. Yuck. No, yum. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

What'd you do for Easter?

SPEAKER_06 29:29

Still working on that office down in the basement, scraping the floor, getting the trim off the wall and all that stuff. Then we went over next door and had sarma, which was delicious. Sarmaz. It's kind of always been our Easter thing with my wife and her family and then us. And it was it's fantastic. I love sarmas.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

For those playing the home game, everybody up north in Minnesota knows what a sarma is, but if you're listening from elsewhere over yonder, it is cabbage roll. It is a cabbage roll. It is meat and rice, sausage and hamburger essentially mixed together. Mixed together, and then you you roll it in a leaf of what's called a sour head. It's like a pickled cabbage, and then you roll it up and you boil it and you steam it, and it gets all yummy and yeah, it's really good. Some people make them with red sauce, other people make them without red sauce. I am indifferent, they taste good either way.

SPEAKER_06 30:36

Yeah, my my dad's side of the family, my grandpa used to put them in a red sauce, and it was it was delicious. It was very good. It's good. And then my my wife's family doesn't use the red sauce. No, I've I've noticed And they're both good.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

I've noticed that the more traditional Eastern Europeans don't use the red sauce. And then the transplants that came to I think the red sauce is like an iron range thing.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

I think it's more of a Mediterranean thing. Could be. I think is what it is. Could be. I'm not a hundred percent sure. Don't quote me on that. Could be no.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

You could be exactly right with that.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

If you know people, well, tell me I'm wrong. And that's okay. Fucking A, Rudy. She also, my wife made for the first time yesterday uh lobster bisque.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

I'm excited to try that tomorrow for lunch at work.

SPEAKER_06 31:28

And uh it it's really good.

SPEAKER_04 31:31

It's really good. I saw the Snapchat of the process of making it.

SPEAKER_06 31:35

She she comes up with these wacky fucking weird wacky wavy inflatable arm plating tube man. She comes up with this stuff and decides that she's gonna cook and cook that stuff. And I I I love it. She does a fantastic job. Very ambitious and learning new stuff and learning how to make new shit. So it was it was really good. It was enjoyable. My kids didn't like it. Well, my son did, but he's a seafood freak. But all my other kids, they they weren't much for it. I liked it. Jimmy's a seafood freak. He also made a ham that I didn't touch, which I will be eating tomorrow. Ham is good. I made some salmon yesterday because I was here the night that you made yours and looked and smelt and tasted fantastic. Oh, I have to make some more.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

I have another filet in the fridge.

SPEAKER_06 32:26

So good. We went to Aldi's in the new one in Hibbing. New one inhibit. Yeah, I gotta go there. I thoroughly enjoy shopping there. We had four bags of stuff. It was under$100. And that included salmon there and barata and some pork chops and some other stuff that we just randomly wanted to get. So I mean that Aldi's is a lifesaver. And I I just have a feeling that we're gonna be shopping there quite a bit. But I don't know, Easter's just not the same, I guess, since my mother-in-law passed away. Like we don't go down to Duluth much and we don't celebrate that part of it. And I've never I've never been much of a Easter celebrating person for a multitude of reasons. I just it was more it's kind of like a Christmas thing for me where it's an opportunity to be around family and kind of ring in spring. Ring in spring.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

I gotta find a weekend for my for my party, spring party.

SPEAKER_06 33:35

Yes, you do. Oh, and we were going over invites for Gav's grad party.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

All right. That mother sucker graduates this year and have his party in June.

SPEAKER_06 33:48

Yeah. We're gonna mail out a couple for a couple invites for close family and relatives and friends that aren't in our area. Everybody else, you are being invited via Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

So don't expect an invite in the mail. Because you're not that important. I'm kidding. That's a joke.

SPEAKER_06 34:13

Anyway, I just I realized how many people have been a part of Gav's life over the last 18 years. It's been it's pretty impressive, honestly. You guys, you know, karate's the Thompson's the He's a good kid. I mean, he's he's a good kid and He is a good kid. He is. He he he worries me a little bit with some stuff going out into the real world, but I'm sure my mom felt the same way. My mom probably felt the same way when I was leaving, so I he'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

His father's son. He'll figure it out. He'll he'll be alright. Well, you figured it out. Eventually.

SPEAKER_06 34:56

Yeah. Eventually. I mean took a minute, but that's ever that's everybody.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

But not that long.

SPEAKER_06 35:01

I mean, you figured out No, but I had to grow up really quick and That's the worst. That's what I say because he was born when I was nineteen and are turning nineteen.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 35:15

So it's it's not something I want for him. It's not something I'd ever obviously take back.

Growing Up Fast And Making Choices

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Well, yeah. But that that whole learning thing is what I have conversations with. My daughter and even her friends that come over, sometimes I'll talk I I say you need to make good decisions. And if you mess up, it's okay. But just know that when you make the bigger mistakes, it makes growing up hard it come faster.

SPEAKER_06 35:48

And that too.

SPEAKER_04 35:49

It makes it like it makes it so instead of taking your time having fun and enjoying maybe what's arguably the best part of your life between 18 and 25, if you make poor decisions, and I'm not saying having a child is a poor decision inherently, but if you're not ready to have a child, if it's with the wrong person, makes it hard, etc., etc. etc. makes it harder. You have to grow up right now because now you have a life that you're taking care of and raising and turning into a human being in this society.

SPEAKER_06 36:22

Well, and I I think you're 100% correct, because I have conversations like that with my f my kids' friends and basketball. I it's basketball's not just about playing basketball, it's about life.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Sports are about life.

SPEAKER_06 36:36

So I mean I like to have that conversation, and it might be embarrassing, it might sound stupid, and it might, you know, kids don't like to listen to that shit, but I'm still gonna do it. Absolutely. You're gonna run into hard things, you're gonna run into adversity, you're gonna run into failure, you're gonna run into getting hurt, you're gonna get knocked down. It's just a matter of how and when and get back up. Why you get back up. Could be as simple as getting rejected by a job, could be getting rejected by the significant other, could be getting a speeding ticket. It could be as simple, it could be something simple.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Yeah, it's uh speeding tickets will wreck your life sometimes. I mean, if you're the think about like I got a speeding ticket when I was like 20, 22, somewhere in there. I had overdrawn my checking account. I was on my way back from Virginia because I worked in Virginia at the time, and I got it pulled over, I was doing 85 and a 65, and the asshole wrote it for every mile an hour above. He didn't give me a break at all. So I had like a 300-some dollar speeding ticket, and my checking account was already overdrawn. The fuck am I supposed to do? Yeah, I have 90 days to pay it, but I I'm already at bottom. Right. It's like so even little things like that can compound and snowball and hurt.

SPEAKER_06 37:54

Or just as simple as being late for work.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

Yeah. That's what I try to kind of teach my daughter with responsibilities, because she as as good as she is, and as good as she has gotten, she still fails to see the the value in urgency.

SPEAKER_06 38:14

Does that run in the family?

SPEAKER_04 38:21

Only biologically, I'm guessing. It's the nature versus nurture thing. I'm all nurture. The nature is the the late side. That's why I always say if we have to go somewhere, I always give a half hour buffer. If if we have to leave at 7, I say, alright, we we're leaving at 6 30.

SPEAKER_06 38:41

So then you leave by like 22? We leave usually quarter to 15 minutes late.

SPEAKER_05 38:50

Oh yeah. Oh, how'd you miss that? I apologize.

SPEAKER_04 38:55

There we go. We're watching the Timberwolves game. So if you hear any interjections by myself, it's because I'm watching.

SPEAKER_06 39:04

Yeah, it's just life creeps up on these kids quicker, and uh, and they're exposed to so much more than what we were exposed to at that age. Everything's so fast in today's world. Well, it's such a instant gratification society. You know, they're all worried about how many likes they're gonna get, how many hearts they're gonna get, how many watches they're gonna get, how you know all that other bullshit. Like I was watching a reel on Facebook that sh kind of explained the two generations where it was you and I at a school dance could dance like a fucking moron. Oh yeah. Jump around and do whatever we wanted to do because we weren't scared of anybody recording us and putting us on Facebook or TikTok or Twitter or Snapchat.

SPEAKER_04 39:50

Where now it's a genuine concern.

SPEAKER_06 39:53

They won't do that because they're worried about getting bullied online or getting it posted online or stuff like that. We used to draw on people that got passed out and that was it. Now you can take a picture and it's posted all over the internet. Correct. I just it it sucks.

SPEAKER_00 40:11

It really does. That is not a foul. Get the fuck out of here. Anyway. Anything else new going on?

SPEAKER_06 40:33

Not really. Anything interesting you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_04 40:38

No, not here. Not referring to that. Off mic, I'll talk. Because I have some theories, but I worked all weekend.

SPEAKER_06 40:49

What'd you do there?

SPEAKER_04 40:50

Stared at a spreadsheet. Nice. Tried to enter some data in our web-based CMMS and it failed the first two days. So Friday was a holiday. Nobody was there really. I mean, it it's considered a holiday. Friday is the Easter holiday for us, so I had Friday, Saturday, and today. And Friday and yesterday I spent organizing the data and trying to push it into the system. And then today I finally had a breakthrough with whatever was going on. It ended up working, so I got some stuff entered today. I gotta finish up entering the rest of the stuff this week. I know this is boring for people, but then Fuck them. I have I have an interview at some point coming up for a different position. At work? Same, yeah, same company. But it's different role? Yeah, different role. It's kind of I guess technically it'd be promotion, so that'd be cool. It's in an area where I have so it's split between two areas or three technically, but but we can call it two areas. One area I have a wealth of knowledge and experience, and the other area I have almost zero knowledge and experience, so it would be fun learning curve, new something new. Although that also means that I'll have to learn like driving in the mine because I'm in the plants right now, and I know the plants, I know every plant pretty well. But the mine is foreign to me. Like, I know how to get to some of the main areas in the mine, but those those roads, the hall roads, are can continuously changing, and I don't even know, like, I wouldn't know how to get to the East Pit or to the Cost In or to any of these other locations that have names. I just I don't because every time I've been down there, I've gone with somebody that knows knows where they're going and stuff.

SPEAKER_06 43:01

But you've never really spent any time in the pit. No.

SPEAKER_04 43:05

Tried to avoid it at all costs just because there's houses that drive around and I don't like being smaller.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

I don't like being in a pickup truck on the same road as a truck the size of a house.

SPEAKER_04 43:24

In other news, I have my Lowe's cart packed full with about a thousand dollars worth of spring home improvement items. Yeah, mine's mine, yeah, mine's pretty pretty large. I got I got gutters and all the fixings to hang the gutters, just the vinyl ones, nothing super fancy, but I want gutters because after the past week of the snow and the melt, and the snow and the melt, I am A, sick of getting water. Water l water in my garage that seeps under the garage doors, be sick of getting sprinkled every time I walk out any door of the house because it just drips right off the roof. So I'm putting gutters up and then I'm making our front garden a garden, like a flower bed. My wife wants me to do that. So I have to finish I started digging it out two years ago.

SPEAKER_06 44:26

Oh, I remember that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

Yep. So I'm gonna just spread what's left and level it off and then put fabric down, put some fill in, more fill in, put a put a landscape edge along the sidewalk so it's a nice clean edge, and then I'm gonna put a couple few landscaping timbers, build it up a little so there's like a little mini wall there.

SPEAKER_06 44:49

I think I have the fabric stuff. I have some too. Oh, from your garden in the back, that's right. Yeah. Yep. I still have your tiller too. That's yours now. I'm gonna oh you're buying it for me.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

I gotta bring it in here and get it going again, because last summer I tried to use it a second time and it wouldn't start, so I gotta it's sad for a long time. Yeah, unfortunately. I gotta pull the carb off and clean it and see if I can get it running again. It's a small engine, it should be pretty straightforward. I've gotten all my chainsaws running, so Oh nice.

SPEAKER_06 45:22

Yeah, I saw you and Lane cut a treat on it as well.

SPEAKER_04 45:25

Yeah, that was fun. He I went over there Tuesday? Just for fun, I drove my four-wheeler over there because I saw him he snapchatted something. So I zipped over there on the wheeler and said hi and he he's taking branches off the tree, and I was like, let me know if you want a hand cutting it down because it's a big drop. Drop it on his house. Yeah. Well he's like, yeah. So the next day we We timbered it over, got got it all cut up and got the brush stacked in his yard, so he's gonna have a big bonfire at some point.

SPEAKER_06 46:00

I have about six trees in my yard that need to be cut down this year.

SPEAKER_04 46:05

I'd rather do it in the spring when it's not balls hot.

SPEAKER_06 46:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

I'm thinking like May.

SPEAKER_05 46:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

May-ish.

SPEAKER_05 46:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:15

Yeah, I got I there's just so I need to like organize my weekends.

SPEAKER_06 46:21

I want to I want to do something in that shack with the windows. I don't think I'm gonna do much else with it. I wanna re-screen them. Yeah. And then I want to I'm gonna clean my garage out, have a yard sale or bring it wherever.

SPEAKER_05 46:37

We should have a we should have a garage sale.

SPEAKER_06 46:40

We should. I agree.

SPEAKER_04 46:42

Let's plan that. Yeah, we should definitely do that. Because I got shit that I could sell. I got lots of shit. We got so many clothes, I got so many like random one-offs of tools that I I just I have like four wire brushes. Why do I need four? I need one.

SPEAKER_06 46:59

Because every time that you need one, you couldn't find it. It's in a different one.

SPEAKER_04 47:03

No, those actually are all inherited tools. I gotta I gotta sell some of the inherited tools.

SPEAKER_06 47:09

But I've got stuff in the barn that I could sell in the bottom and the top and in the garage. I mean, there's shit everywhere. And I know I've been my wife gives me shit all the time. Like I've been saying I want to clean this stuff for the last couple years, but it needs it just it needs to happen. Like it needs to be done.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Yeah. So yeah, we'll have to plan something there. I know we're gonna do some basketball stuff this summer.

SPEAKER_06 47:35

I know that the the other coach and I have talked about that. I don't know what we're gonna do, but we're gonna do something.

SPEAKER_04 47:44

Uh yeah. This is the last summer I think that we'll have for volleyball. Well, no, I think Maya can play one more summer after this. If she wants to. Yeah. We'll see if she does. But yeah, it's winding down. I mean, kids are getting old. You got younger still. I've got a couple years still.

SPEAKER_06 48:04

I got about ten years left.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

But we got one left. She's a senior next year. Yeah. One left.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

We only have one. One year left. One year left. One year left. Which is exciting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:23

I'm torn between It's exciting and nerve-wracking at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

I'm torn between like wanting her to figure out what she wants to do, and then if she's gotta go to school for what she wants to do, then go to school and don't be picky about where the school is. Like if it's a good school and you get accepted, go to it, you know, right. Kind of thing. Yep. I want to encourage her to reach out and explore things, but at the same time, I wouldn't care if she hung out at home another couple of years either.

SPEAKER_06 48:55

Well, and you don't want her to dump a bunch of money into something that she's not that interested in.

SPEAKER_04 49:03

Yeah. Where of course I am a super you know strong advocate for not spending money on college for no reason.

Trades Versus College And Work Ethic

SPEAKER_06 49:10

Here here's my my take on that. These trades are so hellbent on getting people, not just kids, people into them. Yep. Whether it be plumbing, welding, mill right, carpentry, electrician, mechanics, all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_05 49:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:31

There's such a need in that stuff that as soon as our generation, and not even really ours, the generation before us, is gone or can't work. Who the fuck's gonna build stuff?

SPEAKER_00 49:43

Who's gonna build stuff? I'm gonna build stuff.

SPEAKER_06 49:47

No, I mean you're right. Who's gonna who's gonna know how to plumbing?

SPEAKER_04 49:51

Well, it's already it's already showing. It's already begun to happen where I have zero faith in anybody in a skilled position that has to work on anything of mine. I personally know a very good mechanic that works at a mechanic shop. The one that comes here, and I hear stories about his coworkers. Yeah, because he's he's a few years older than us. And he's very he's very good at his job. Yes, so he's still got it, but some of the things he says about like some of his coworkers that just the effort that they don't put in, right? You know, it's like if you don't know something, learn it. And that's apparent at my day job as well, because you have these younger employees that don't know what they're gonna work with, and then we have we have an acronym that is well known amongst certain like older electricians and whatnot, RTFB, and it means read the fucking book. If you don't know it, read the fucking book. There's a manual for every piece of equipment that we install out there. If you have to install a VFD, if you have to install a breaker, a switch, anything like that, there is a book that goes with it. Don't whine and ask your hand to be held, RTFB.

SPEAKER_06 51:08

Well, and for me, my boss, because I like to fuck with my boss because it's fun. We Google everything. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:16

Everything YouTube, YouTube, Google, you can do anything.

SPEAKER_06 51:20

All of it. So we had to put in an automatic door opener on a mandor with the and I didn't we didn't know how the fuck to do it. We've never none of us had ever done it before.

SPEAKER_05 51:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:31

I Googled it, YouTube it, figured it out. Absolutely. Like that's and these kids can do that, but they they want someone to tell them, like, hey, or or do it for them. And it's frustrating. And I just with with my son and like Maya next year, I I told Gav, I was like, if you don't know what you want to do, go work. Yep. Make some go to work.

SPEAKER_04 51:57

Because and it's not gonna be your fucking dream job. If you don't know, if you don't know what you want to do and you go get a job, that job is not your dream job. But it might be it could be you might never know. But the odds of that are very slim.

SPEAKER_06 52:13

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

The odds of you not knowing what you want to do and just stumbling across a career that you love, that that is rare. One in one in a hundred thousand.

SPEAKER_06 52:23

Well, that's what happened to my wife with Delta.

SPEAKER_04 52:25

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Rare, rare, but it happens.

SPEAKER_06 52:28

But I told Gav too, I was like, and this is just my own personal opinion, you might disagree with me. Getting your generals, getting your AA it does nothing. It's a fucking waste of time. It does nothing. It's a waste of time, it's a waste of money, it's a waste of nothing.

SPEAKER_04 52:42

I agree. It does nothing.

SPEAKER_06 52:44

Unless you have something that you're going to school for that you need some of those generals.

SPEAKER_04 52:49

Well, in case in point example, you don't need that if you get in the right spot and you're an intelligent individual. Correct. You get the electrical program. I don't have a four-year degree, and I am doing jobs. My last two positions have were required. Quote unquote required. It says preferred on the application. It says experience or a four-year degree. There are some positions that say required. Yep. However, I feel strongly that unless it's like a specialized position where you need a license of some kind or you need to be certified. Like if you're a social worker, yes, you need a four-year degree because you have to be a licensed social worker to perform or a dentist or even a dental assistant, you need that education in order to perform those jobs. But there's a lot of jobs, like I'm speaking, like the natural leaders out there, the captains of the sports teams that don't know what they want to do. If they get into a good company with a good job and they make money and they move up, and they're natural born leaders, they will succeed without having that schooling.

SPEAKER_06 54:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

Even like you, your experience in sales, it's like you don't need marketing schooling to be a good salesman. No, it's all personality and character and intelligence. And if you're halfway smart and you have a good character and you're not shy, you will be a good salesman. Yep. And there's so many of those jobs around. Like you could you can get into inside sales, outside sales for any distribution company of the city. Business to business to business sales. B2B, yeah, you can do a lot with that.

SPEAKER_06 54:32

Well, and a lot of them are remote now. A lot of them are remote where you sit on a computer and you talk on a phone and you're like, all right, here's what we have, here's what it is, blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 54:40

And even other even industries where you wouldn't think of like that line of progression, like installing office furniture for an office furniture company. Yeah, it's shit work for your first few years. But if you build rapport and if you make those connections and network and talk to people, you'll install furniture for two to four years, and then you'll get thrown an offer to be a rep a sales rep instead of an installer. Yep. And then you'll be offered to be a regional sales rep instead of just a local sales rep. Or a sales manager, or a sales manager, or anything like that. There's like I'm super if you don't have the base though, I will say if you have if you if you don't have the base, like if you can't count change, you should probably go to college. Or if you didn't get the base in high school that you were supposed to get, that's what your generals should cover. Your basic public speaking, your computer skills, your just general knowledge about how people behave is what you learn in general general education.

SPEAKER_06 55:55

Well, and the the issue, and our friend and I were talking about this when I was here last time, and the unfortunate thing is the education system it doesn't teach you a lot of real world skills anymore. Unfortunately. And I don't even I don't know if it did when we were in school or not, but I mean you going to school, like I the thing that I'll always say is it teaches you discipline, it teaches you routine, it teaches you uh accountability. It does teach you those things. Oh, yeah, it really does.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

Responsibility, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:30

But uh my big thing is when you're in school, in high school, junior high, whatever, you can definitely tell the ones that uh are in organized sports and the ones that are not.

SPEAKER_04 56:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:45

I'm a firm believer in organized sports is one of the best things that you can do for your kids is have them be in organized sports because it teaches them accountability most places teaches them about accountability, teaches them about a routine, teaches them about teamwork and leadership and failure and all the things that you're gonna have in the workforce or in life. And I don't think a lot of the kids that are going out in this workforce know that because they quit when it doesn't go their way or they quit when it's not easy. They don't like hard. Like I I explained this to my daughter and your daughter before with softball. Between basketball and uh baseball, softball, they're the most and I'll even throw football in there. They are the most life relative sports because of the failure and uh the accountability, the self-accountability, teamwork accountability, things like that, leadership, bosses, all that stuff where you have to rely on somebody else, but you also have to rely on yourself.

SPEAKER_05 57:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 57:47

It just especially softball talking to Nina and Maya, you know you might uh you might get up three times in a game and you might hit the ball twice, but you get out all three times. Yep. That's not necessarily a failure, but it definitely isn't a success either. You gotta take the little wins along with the big wins. Yes. And these kids are not geared with that mindset where they think that everything's gonna be handed to them. I told Gav if he goes to college, you don't want to go to school, those teachers don't give a fuck. No, they don't want to turn your homework in. They don't give a fuck. Nope. You want to know why? Because they're getting paid regardless.

SPEAKER_04 58:23

Yep. Your money is already in the college's account before the school starts, even.

SPEAKER_06 58:28

They're not gonna talk to you about truancy or attendance or nope.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

They're not gonna warn you, they're not gonna have a little meeting, they're not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_06 58:35

And then when you miss a class so many times and teacher has requirements and accountability in their class, and then you show up out of the blue, they're gonna tell you to get the fuck out. Yep. That's exactly how they're gonna tell you. Get the fuck out. You don't need to be here. I don't need you here. Same thing when you go to work. You can't just go and come and go as you please at work. You can't. Nope. People want to be they want reliable people and they want people that have integrity and people that have all the things that you're gonna get taught in the real world. And it humbles you, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_04 59:09

Wouldn't you want to rely on your co-workers? Wouldn't you want to be able to rely on your co-workers?

Showing Up And Building Trust At Work

SPEAKER_06 59:14

And I and the job I have right now, I will honestly say it is the most I've been able to rely on my co-workers in my in my adult life. That's cool. It has been the easiest work environment, it has been uh the least stressful work environment that I've ever been a part of. That's cool. Because our boss lets us just get get shit done. That's all he says. Yeah. Get the shit done. Yeah. And the guys that I work with are extremely uh easy to work with, like they teach you, especially the older guys that have been doing it for a while. Like they'll they're willing to teach, they're willing to let me strike.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

They have that patience, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 59:55

And sometimes they don't, but for the most part, they do. Because they know then they're not going to be there forever.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:01

You strike a fine balance when you're teaching or training somebody. You have to have that balance between having enough patience to allow them to do it, but also knowing when to intervene and say, hey, try to. You're fucked up right now. Let me help you.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:18

Well, and I think the biggest thing that they've told me and that I've learned is the biggest thing to them is showing up.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:25

Show up.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:25

Be there. Be there, be square.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:27

And that doesn't mean physically show up. No, that means mentally, yes, physically, and show that you want to be there.

Money Success And A Life That Matters

SPEAKER_04 1:00:35

Exactly. Show that you want to be there for that paycheck that you make. Yes. Yes, we all we all go to work for money. That is why we go to work. If if I didn't have to go to work for money, I ain't going to fucking work. But I don't live to work. No. No, no. I work to live, as most sane people do. The CEO of the company that I work for is a workaholic, self-described workaholic. He's said it in interviews in the past where he says, I I have a family, but I also work is my number one. Besides the health of my family, work is number one. I don't do anything for fun. I don't do hobbies. I work. That's crazy. That well, he's also a multimillionaire. Right. And he's been the head of several very large Fortune 500 companies.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:30

Obviously, very successful.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

Yes, he's very successful. But he doesn't do anything.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:35

But you also don't get that successful. Unless you're born into it, you don't get that successful without having that mindset.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

I mean, I'd love to I'd love to start three other businesses. If there were 36 hours in a day and I didn't need to sleep and I didn't want to hang out with anybody and I didn't want to have fun on weekends, and I didn't want to go for a four-wheeler ride or have a fire or go to the cabin or walk my dogs or do the camper or play bocce ball or play beanbags or play anything, golf. Like if I didn't want to do any of that, yeah, I could probably make a pile of money, but then what's the value? What's the value of my life if I'm just working? Well, yes, I'm getting some money, but the value that I'm giving the company is priceless for them. So I'm helping the company benefit. And then if it's my own company, yeah, I'm making money for the brand and the business, but why does that matter to me? I started the business because I love saunas. I needed something hands-on because my my roles at work kind of m morphed into a non-hands-on role. And my crazy brain needs the physical stimulation of doing something with your hands in order to maintain my sanity. And I couldn't do that at work anymore, so I started this.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:01

But then once once once you get there and you look around and there's nobody. Absolutely. How fulfilling is it? Yeah. How fulfilling is that? Because the the people that you're gonna be around are the ones that only want your money.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:20

And that's the old expression, money can't buy happiness. And then I I am I am really neutral to that point because like you don't see anybody like you don't oh that's a good hit. You don't see anybody crying on a jet ski. You don't see anybody you how many how many suicides how many suicides occur on yachts every year? It's a you know, like you're not you're not gonna build your happiness, you're not gonna make happiness out of money, but it's definitely gonna help you get there. And it's it's to the point where it's like what you're saying is, yes, you have all this, but where is everything else? To that point, your your money needs to enhance your life, not run your life. Correct. That's what I was getting at. Yes. So it's it's like, yeah, you you make all this money and then you look around and it's like, well, everybody knows my name. I took this company from the ground up, I built it, I have an empire, I'm very successful, but at what cost? Do I have and now what? Do my kids love me? Do I have a wife? Do I have friends? Do I like real friends? Yeah. Like, can I call my buddy up and go hit the links with him? No, because every contact in my phone is another person on another board of directors.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:46

It's just it's a it's a nasty world out there. Yeah. I don't know. Could be the nastiest. Everybody's saying it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:01

It's the nastiest world out there. Oh man. A lot of people are saying a lot of people. A lot of people are. Too many people. It could be the nastiest.

Minnesota Movie Trivia And Iron Range Picks

SPEAKER_06 1:05:12

So I'm gonna ask you something. Bueller. Do you know The Muffin Man? The Muffin Man. Do you know the top ten movies about the Iron Range in Minnesota? There's some North Country.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:28

Okay. Field of Dreams.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:30

Hold on. North Country, inspired by true events, this drama showcases struggles of a woman in mining town facing harassment, starring Charlie Stheron, sheds light on gender issues in the workplace.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:41

Don't forget about Woody Harrelson.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:42

Woody Harrelson, Jeremy Renner. I forgot about Jeremy Renner. Marge. Marge. The chick that plays Marge. Sean Bean. Sean Bean. Sean Bean's in that movie. Yep. Filmed very close to home, right down the highway, actually. Yeah. The first scene in the movie. Yes. Really good. Really, really good. Can you name another one?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:02

Field of Dreams.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:04

I don't know if it's on the list, actually. It wasn't technically snippet of well, what was supposed to be Chisholm.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:12

Yeah, it wasn't actually Chisholm.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:13

Can you name another one? You should know at least two more. About the Iron Range specifically or with Iron Range ties? Iron Range, I'll say Iron Range ties, Minnesota ties. Is Miracle on there? No. Was not filmed. Oh, this is filmed? It could be filmed, it could be kind of based for a portion of the movie more than two minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

More than two minutes of the movie. Is the new one on there? Stone Creek Killer? No, no, it is not. Filmed in Chisholm. Filmed in Chisholm. Don't don't rush me.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:47

I gotta think about this. I'll edit out the dead airspace. There's a sports movie on here. Doesn't necessarily set in the Iron Range, but is definitely held close to Minnesota ties. And the other one that you would probably know is the one that they butchered Fargo.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:18

Yeah. I was gonna say the accent. Dark com comedy crime film that showcases Midwestern culture and landscape with a notable performance by Francis McDormand. That's who's also in North Country. While much of the film is set in North Dakota, it reflects the character and vibe of the region. Butchered Our Accents, great movie. Stevie Semi.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:37

The other creepy dude sent through a wood chipper. What the sports one?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:44

The sports one was Mighty Ducks. Oh not necessarily Iron Range, but it's definitely resonates with Minnesota youth hockey.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:52

Jingle All the Way?

unknown 1:07:54

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:55

That's gotta be on there. That was filmed in Minneapolis. It should be on here. What about that Duluth that football movie with George Clooney that they filmed in Minneapolis? Leatherheads. No, that's not on here.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:07

Have you ever heard of what the lat no it's The Last of the Lies? Nope. Mystery drama sent set in the Iron Range intertwining personal and social issues while uncovering secrets of the past. 2010. Long Way Home? Nope. Sweetland? Nope. A Prairie Home compilation.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

Companion. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:31

Prairie Home Companion.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:32

Never heard of it. The Man Who Knew Lit Too Little.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:36

I've I've You've never heard of Prairie Home Companion? No. Your parents didn't listen to NPR when you were younger.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:43

No. They did not. A Simple Plan. Based on Scott Smith's novel, Thriller Revolves around three men who discover a crash plane filled with cash. Iron Range, the movie from 2008. Documentary showcasing rich history of Iron Range focusing on its mining roots and community stories. I don't know, just I I thought this would be kind of fun. I I wouldn't have been able to name any more than you did.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:12

Hey, Dad, look at me. Simple plans. You said simple plans. They're Canadian. Think back and talk to me. Did I grow up according to plan?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:36

Hey, let's do a tier list. We haven't done a tier list in a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:38

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:40

Let's do a tier list.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:41

Let's do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:45

Do you have a specific category you would like to try or do? Not not particularly. Not particularly.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:59

I just want to listen to this. We can't play it on the podcast, but I don't want to do sports or music.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:12

Scary I can't be perfect. Now it's good. And we can't go back to be I can't be perfect.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:30

So when I got my underage in Wisconsin, I had to go to this class, and they had like three drunks come and talk to us, and then they played this music video.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:44

Open my eyes. I tried to see, but I'm blinded by the white.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:50

Is this the one that has people dying in it?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:52

Yeah. Yeah. The car accident.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:00

This happened to me. I think in the stakes. Got nowhere to run. Night goes on as I'm fading away. Sick of this life. I just wanna scream. How could this happen?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:22

My buddy goes on our group, we have a group Snapchat, and we don't really talk about anything in particular. We just if the Timberwolves are on, we talk about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:34

He goes, fuck all this shit, I'm ready for playoffs. Slop, he says before that.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

You're a book reader, aren't you?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

Fuck no. You can do it. I know books, but I don't fucking read them.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

Fuck no.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:00

Let me think. The last book that I actually read. This one might be fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:11

Twilight characters. Gross. No, I've never watched Twilight. Done with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:18

Kanada? My nose is funky.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:24

Aw, yeah. Halloween movies. Halloween movies. We're doing Halloween movies. I know it's not Halloween, it's Easter.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

It's not what I want to do right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:33

No? Halloween movies? Alright. Fine. Well, fuck me and your Gucci band. I'm not a good crowd for Halloween movies. Put everything in D tier.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:51

Wedding trends?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Vacation destinations.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:58

Autumn activities?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:00

It's spring, motherfucker. That's true. We gotta stay with kind of the seasons.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

Fuck. You're not wrong. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:10

Dad, look at me metal.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:14

Mexico. That's kinda on your level.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:16

What about it?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:18

Is it just a Mexico tier list? It's all in Mexican, I can't read it.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:26

Tacos de Mexico? We're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:58

MC Mike.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:00

I started a new supplement for my uh gut health.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

Yes. And it is working.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:14

It's a liquid of like all these extracts. It's an herbal sub supplement. Okay. And you drip like you add you add it to your coffee and you just drink it. And it makes you feel full and it also helps you digest things. And it's doing wonders.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:35

I've been taking stuff for my liver type stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:40

I also take metamucil every day, which also helps. But what stuff just supplements?

Nickelodeon Show Bracket And Documentary Fallout

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

Milk thistle is all it is. Nickelodeon shows. I could fuck with that. We'll do that one.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:03

I don't think you're gonna like it, but we'll do that one. So tonight's this is a bracket. It's not a tier list anymore. And I know you love the brackets so much.

unknown 1:16:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:18

Ready? Yeah. First matchup. SpongeBob SquarePants. All grown up.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:28

Fuck that. SpongeBob. Fuck that imposter of a show.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:35

Next one up. Ren and Stimpy. Or Legends of the Hidden.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:42

Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:43

See, I fucked with both of those, but definitely going with Legends for myself. Ren and Stimpy was my mom actually got mad at me for watching Ren and Stimpy because it's raunchy. I mean, it it really is. It was. It was bad. It is so bad.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:00

I don't know how they got away with putting that on Nickelodeon by the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:03

I mean, it is nasty. It was funny. My mom yelled at me every time I tried to watch it. She's like, this show is inappropriate.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:10

Cat dog? Or chalk zone? Cat dog.

unknown 1:17:15

Like cat dog.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:17

Alone in a world with a little cat dog. Victorious. Or all that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:25

Oh that. This is all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:30

Lori Beth Dinberg. She was my favorite. She's a sleeper character, man. I love me some Lori Beth. Keenan and Kale. Keenan and Kale. Or uh Amanda Bynes. Yeah. Oh, you're just talking about characters and all that, yeah. Amanda Bynes, man. That's goddamn shame. Yeah. I wish she would have had a little better mental health. Just remember, kids, drugs are bad. Drugs are bad, and being abused sucks too. Did you watch that Nickelodeon documentary? I didn't because I didn't want to. I know it's bad. I read about it. I didn't watch the documentary, but I read all the stories.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:05

I watched it. Holy shit. Yeah. Now, if you want to, if you grew up and you're around our age demographic, between the ages probably of like I would say 40 to 34. 34 to 40, you probably grew up in a pretty fantastic age of Nickelodeon shows. Oh yeah. I mean, salute your shorts. I don't want to ruin a bunch of these, but you you kind of get the gist of that. But I mean, you had so many good shows, whether it was animated or or not. Watching that documentary really gave me an icky feeling. And I would suggest people that grew up in that age. You should watch it. You should watch it. If you don't know what happened, you gotta get out more, man. Yeah. I mean, like, it's bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:56

Almost like the P. Diddy one.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:57

Yeah. Anyway. iCarly or Sam and Kat. Ooh, iCarly. Big iCarly fan. Oh, this one's gonna be tough. Doug?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:12

Dude, dude, dude, or Danny Phantom. Definitely Doug for Excuse me, definitely Doug for me. Next one, Drake and Josh.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:24

Or Doubledare.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:27

See, that's that, that, that is a difficult one. Because Drake and Josh was later in my Nickelodeon career, but it was really good. And then Doubledare was is is like the Nickelodeon show.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:42

Like it's where all the ooze really started. Like some all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:46

Yeah, that's where the slime Or the slime, not the ooze. Yeah, it's not Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Fuck. Secret of the Ooze. That's number three. Number two. Two? Two. Well, yeah, so three is the weird. I don't like three. Fuck you. I don't like three.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:04

I like two. I like Super Shredder! That's the one I forgot on my trilogy list. And go ninja, go ninja.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:12

Ha!

SPEAKER_04 1:20:14

Anyway. I gotta I gotta give it to Drake and Josh. Okay. I'm sorry, D, if you're listening. Zoe 101 versus Ned's. Ned's declassified. Those are both kind of new age for me. I didn't really watch either one of them. I feel like I was still young enough to think the Jamie Lynn was hot, so we're gonna go with that.

unknown 1:20:41

Zoe.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:43

So round two on this side of the bracket, we have SpongeBob and Legends of the Hidden Temple.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:50

Legends.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:51

See, and Spongebob has been around for so long. I think it was just overdone.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:56

Yeah, they ran out of stuff, and and it was way better in the earlier days. For sure. For sure. But I it's Legends for sure. That you can't you can't put SpongeBob over Legends of the Hidden Temple.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:08

Cat Dog or All That?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:10

All That.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:11

Definitely all that. Cat Dog was mid mid in the in the range of time. Real monsters. I love the guy with the pit hair where that held his eyeballs. Big big mouth on his gut, holds his eyeballs and got the pit hair sticking out.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:31

iCarly or Doug? Doug. Greed. Drake and Josh or Zoe 101? Drake and Josh. Okay. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:44

Yeah. It wasn't, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:47

Oh god, that smells.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:50

Next round is legends versus all that.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:54

Uh all that, all that for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:59

Doug or Drake and Josh? Doug.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:06

So the final in this side of the bracket is between all that and Doug.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:11

And it's all that.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:12

All that. Yes. Okay, other side of the bracket. First one up, Rugrats versus the Wild Thornberries. That is bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:29

You are not.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:30

You are not. I gotta go with Rugpower.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:33

You are okay, good. I gotta I have to. I have to.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:36

I I Nigel Thornbarry.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:39

Rocket Power or Ariel monsters.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:44

Oh fuck you.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:45

This is bullshit. Why are these on the fucking this is bullshit?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:51

Rocket power was definitely underrated. Aloha cuz. Which one are you picking? Rocket power. What? Sorry. Rocket power.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:09

I don't agree. But we'll go with it. Rocket power. Rocco's Modern Life. Rocco's Modern Life. Invader Zim. Never watched that one. You never watched Invader Zim.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:22

Oh, he's a cool little alien.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:27

I believe he talks like this.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:30

But I can't remember for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:32

Or maybe it was a higher pitch voice like this, kinda like Stitch, but not quite.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:37

I gotta look this up. His voice is gonna make the decision, because if it's the voice that I'm thinking of I don't care about the voice actor. For the record, it's Richard Steven Horvitz.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:53

I don't know who that is. He looks that he Yeah, I don't know. Oh does he look interesting? He does voice acting.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:06

Which is like such not an answer. But it's so gerr. That one I liked. Um Gur? What's the G stand for? What is the G stand for?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:14

I said Invader Jim?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:16

I don't know. And I say Is it supposed to be stupid? It's not stupid. It's advanced. Yes, it fooled even me. So those moments are I like. I also like uh Jonan's favorite that Jonan says that that transferred into Zim when he directed me.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:34

So what you're going with Invader Zim? No. You're going with Rocco? Yes. Okay, we'll go with Rocco. I like Rocco's modern life. Good show. Next one is Hey Arnold versus As Told by a Ginger. Hey Arnold. I don't even know what the fuck that is other one is. Me neither. Next one is Avatar The Last Airbender. Fantastic show.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:58

Good offering.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:00

Versus The Angry Beavers. I forgot about that show. Fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:06

I forgot about the Angry Beavers until just this moment. Oh my god, the Angry Beavers.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:15

Just nostalgia. Yes. I'd have to.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:18

Just because I've forgot about it until right now. I've watched Avatar the Last Airbender. I've watched it. So have I.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:23

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:23

Wonderful. You're going with Angry Beavers. That's classic Nickelodeon. I completely forgot about that show. Next one up. Oh.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:33

Fuck you. Keenan and Kel. Yeah. Versus the Amanda show.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:38

Uh yeah, those are two really good ones. But Keenan and Kel.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:42

They were just that was such a Amanda Mandamand Amanda Manda Mand Amanda Mand Amanda Mandah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:52

Jimmy Neutron, boy genius. Versus Clarissa explains all.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:57

Clarissa explains it all. Fuck Jimmy Neutron. I agree. Fuck that smart ass little nerd.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:03

Next one is Fairly Odd Parents versus Unfabulous.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:10

What's unfabulous? I've never heard of it. Fairly odd parents.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:14

Okay, next round.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:16

We have first up Roger Turner. Rugrats versus Rocket Power.

unknown 1:26:21

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:26

Phone a friend. T Simes, which one you picking? That's tough.

unknown 1:26:36

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:37

Rugrats. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:40

Even though I know Trevor would agree with me on Rocket Power.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:43

Rocco's Modern Life versus Hey Arnold.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:49

I might lose followers for this, but I was more of a fan of Rocco than Hey Arnold. Really? I w I like Rocco's modern life more than Hey Arnold. No shit. I just didn't like the stupid shit that Arnold got into all the time. Although, to be fair, Rocco got into some stupid ass shit too, but something about something about an Australian wallaby is a little funnier than a football head for me. For my sense of humor at that age, I liked it. I liked a weird wallaby with a fat cow as a friend. I thought it was great. More than a football. I also the the kid creep me the fuck out. Yeah. And Halda's unibrow really messed with me too. It gave me an like an aversion to that like whole thing. Like I can't look at a Frida painting.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:36

And Marta or Marta. Martha or whatever Simpson. Marge Simpson had a black child, his best friend. Had that big fucking fro hair that looked like Marge's hair. Yeah. Jaleel. That's not his name, but illegitimate. Jerome? I don't remember. Next up, this roan. Angry Beavers versus Keenan and Cal. Keenan and Cal. Oh yeah. Who loves orange soda? Kell loves orange soda.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:03

Was repairman on Keenan and Kell or all that? Both. It was both? Both. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:08

Clarissa explains it all versus the fairly odd parents.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:12

Clarissa explains it all.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:15

Marissa Joan Hart. Melissa Joan Hart.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:17

I had a super crush on her. I was like seven years old and she was like 18, but I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:25

I wish they had a bracket for TGIF.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:29

Oh, yeah. Next time.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:33

Actually, after this, we're going to talk about that. Rugrats versus Rocco's Modern Life. Rugrats. Keenan and Kel versus Clarissa explains it all.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:42

Keenan and Kel.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:43

Keenan and Kel wins. And the final for that is Rugrats versus Keenan and Kel. Yeah. You're picking Keenan and Kel?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:51

Yeah. By far. Leaps and bounds. The final, which you I forgot what we picked first.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:00

The final, we had Doug and all that in the final. Oh, so it's all that versus Keenan and Kel.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:08

That's poetic. That's so cool. Keenan and Kel came from all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:12

That is that's my favorite thing with Keenan and Kel is Coolio's intro. Yeah. That was the coolest intro on Nickelodeon. It was good.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:23

Coolio. It was good.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:25

Anyway, all that versus Keenan and Kel. I'm not picking. Why? Because they're the same show, essentially. All that has more actors. So we'll I'm I would go with all that.

TGIF Favorites And Sitcom Hot Takes

SPEAKER_06 1:29:35

Yeah, me too. Because that's where they came from. It's the same show. It's the same show, more or less. So with our Nickelodeon show bracket, we had all that taking down Kenan and Kel. Now I'm gonna ask you a question. Oh fuck. Yeah. And I want your top three TGIF shows.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:58

And I have to find something quick, so excuse me. I'm looking at a list right now. I have to do top three. You can give me five.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:24

Your five favorites, because I think they had five on at that time. If you want to give me a top five, put them in a particular order. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:33

If you don't, it's went from 1989 to 2000.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:38

So I'm doing 1990.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:41

Well, same diff. Yeah. So it's only a year. So I mean, there's Alright. Here's here's I I can do three, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:55

I'm gonna do I can do three. You can do three? I can do three. With this list, I can do three. So I only have ten in front of me. Yeah, I only have like ten, too. Okay. I can do three. Okay. They're probably gonna be the same three. Okay. Except there's one that's really making me struggle. Definitely, alright, so definitely Boy Meets World. Definitely Full House.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:17

Okay. Now the other choice is either Family Matters or Sabrina.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:32

You you can put them in there together.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:34

Alright, they're they're there together. So those four Family Matters, Boy Meets World, Sabrina, and Full House in no particular order.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:41

So I wouldn't have Full House in there. No. Here's why. And this is just my own opinion. Families don't act like that. True. It was and it was a feel-good. And they touched on some issues, some relevant issues like eating disorders, drinking. Yeah. Obviously the death of Danny Tanner's wife having his three kids and his best friend and his brother-in-law coming to live with him, and then Becky coming in and you know all that other stuff. It's just it it but the way that they solved things, it I I just I don't know. Not a fan. I agree. I I've watched the show since then. Yeah. And I do enjoy watching it, just not a fan on how they handled things. Boy Meets World is obviously in mine. Probably my favorite show out of all of them. Yep. The dynamic between all the actors and actresses were were really, really good. I I loved Mr. Matthews. Feeney is fucking hilarious. I didn't like, and they did this in Friends to Joey. I didn't like how they made Eric dumber as the seasons went on. Well, that's what got the ratings. But it did. I mean, and and Will Fried did a really good job with it, and he's amazing. He was actually the voice of Batman and Batman Beyond. Oh, yeah. Terry Cummings and stuff like that. So he he did stuff after the fact. Topanga, I'm pretty sure, was my very first crush, TV crush. I love Topanga. Sean was probably my favorite character out of all of them because he had so many different angles.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:11

Shout out T-Right's cat.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:13

Topanga. Shout out. Step by Step would be another one for me.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:23

I I liked the dynamic of the two different families coming together. And I had a crush on one of those girls too, one of the daughters. I I just loved loved that show. And I think family matters. The Winslow family, I think, was really good. And not just for Urkel, I think Eddie and his dad, Carl, the dynamic there, Waldo. I mean it's just my own personal opinion on that. I I really, really liked that one. There's some of them in here that I just never watched. I never watched Clueless on TV. I don't think I ever really watched Hangin' with Mr. Cooper. No.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:06

Did you know you watched Dinosaurs? I did. Me too. I did. The other one I thought they'd be on here is Fresh Prince. That's where I was go I was hoping it was on there, but maybe it wasn't. The Hugleys?

SPEAKER_06 1:34:19

Do you ever watch that? No. Two of a kind? No.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:23

Oh, that's A Widowed Father is raising his tw his twins navigating parenting challenges with humor. The Muppet Show. Revival specials in the 90s, that's where that came in. Sabrina the Teenage Witch was good too.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:40

I like Sabrina. She also. Anyway. We grew up in the TJF era. I just figured I wanted to bring that up and and talk about it a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:52

Couple shout-outs again. I know it's the end of the episode, but we're gonna shout some people out. Again, Hannah at Hairworks, give her a call for any of your hair needs. Valentini's Supper Club in Chisholm put on a great Easter buffet. It was delicious. They do a fantastic job with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:11

If you have any parties or they're packed every year for the every buffet they have, they have a Mother's Day one and an Eastern one and the few others throughout the year. They're they're always packed. So if you're interested, you gotta set a reservation early because we got in at the last minute.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:28

Shout out to them. If you if you need any sort of like banquet or social gathering, birthday, surprise parties, retirement party, uh things like that. Reach out to Valentinis. They'll hook you up there if they have the space and the dates available. Shout out to who else are we gonna shout out this week?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:50

Anybody on your mind that you want to shout out? No? Not really. Not really. I'm holding my breath right now. Did you fart again?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:00

No, I'm doing a Oh, you got the hiccups? No, just vagus response. Oh. Not vagus. Vagus. Vagus. If you do that and you exhale, you can get your heart rate to drop. I did that in the hospital when I was in the hospital a few months ago. When I was hooked up to the monitor, I was like, let's see how low I can get this puppy. And I freaked myself out because I did it. And then I looked at the heart monitor dropped down to like 37. I was like, shit, did I just kill myself? Jesus. It was cool. It got a little lightheaded, got dizzy, but then I was like, wow, that was intense.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:39

All right. Should we shout out our friend that does grad pictures?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:43

Who's our well? I don't know how busy she is, or we have I can't shout out a specific photographer right now because A, don't know how busy she is, don't know if she wants more clients. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:57

And B I have other camera people that I know as well.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:03

So we will shout. I'm gonna shout out. No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:10

To be fair, the camera market. The photography market is super saturated. Everybody's got a camera.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:14

Yeah. Well, they carry one in their pocket.

unknown 1:37:16

Ah!

SPEAKER_04 1:37:18

We're not done. Get out. What a perfect time to end the podcast. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_06 1:37:24

Anyway, thanks for tuning in. We've gone too long. We've gone too far. Uh have a good evening. Happy Easter, and we will see you next week. Take care now. Bye bye then.