Rough Bunker Sports - Why Ring Culture Warps Every Sports Debate

Rings make for clean arguments and lazy ones. We get into why “ring culture” twists sports debates until they stop making sense, and why context, eras, teammates, and coaching matter if you actually want to talk about greatness. I use the NFL as a lightning rod with Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning, then zoom out into the bigger problem: fans love a shortcut more than they love the truth.

We also hit a few hot-button topics that every modern sports fan feels, especially if you watch the NBA and NFL every week. Replay reviews and constant stoppages are dragging down the flow, and dynasty talk gets thrown around way too early. Then we bring it home with a Minnesota sports check-in: realistic Vikings expectations, a Timberwolves outlook, and the big headline question, what happens if LeBron James ends up with the Warriors or somehow lands in Minnesota.

The LeBron angle opens up a debate a lot of people dodge: if he teams up with Steph Curry and Draymond Green, does he get the same criticism Kevin Durant got, or do we grade on a curve based on who we like? We round things out with some “Dad Life in the Rough,” from the chaos of Disney trips to the fun of getting kids into golf, plus a ChatGPT powered top 10 controversial sports opinions on NIL, the transfer portal, youth sports burnout, and why the GOAT debate might be impossible.

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Transcript

Welcome And What’s On Deck

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Welcome back to the Rough Bunker Sports Podcast, where they're the place where sports headlines, dad life, and everyday conversations collide. We're talking the biggest games, hottest takes, family life, coaching kids, and everything in between, whether you're driving to work, headed to practice, or just trying to get through another week of parenting. So pull up a chair, crack a cold beer, and let's get into the Rough Bunker podcast. Where one week you're a genius, the next you're getting roasted online. And you know what? That's sports, honestly. That's why we do love them. So, like I said, welcome back to the Rough Bunker Sports Podcast. I am your host, Tony Antinuti. Today's show kind of consists of a whole bunch of different things, with sports kind of being on the back burner for most of us. You know, baseball season's still going, summer league NBA, WNBA, NFL offseason, NHL offseason. You know, there's a bunch of stuff that's kind of going on there. But you know, not a lot of stuff going on for me. I'm kind of not into a lot of that stuff. You know, I mostly do NFL, NBA. Uh, like I said though, the WNBA is in full swing and the Lynx are doing amazing. They are one of the best teams in the league. Uh, the twins are surprising people with what they're doing in baseball. Just had the all-star break, had you know, no time whatsoever to watch all-star game or home run derby or anything like that. Kind of lost its luster. I really haven't watched one in many, many, many years. Last one I really remember with any significance is when Mark McGuire was in it back in, you know, whatever, 1998 or whenever him and Sammy Sosa were going back and forth. Ken Griffey Jr. obviously was in the league then. So, I mean, I I don't watch a lot of baseball until later in the season. Today's show, we do have some some other headlines, obviously, surrounding uh LeBron James and his decision what he's gonna do. Uh, some Minnesota sports check-ins, have some hot takes for you. Got a pretty good top 10 list for you via chat GPT. This this week's is going to be most top 10 most controversial sports opinions according to ChatGPT. And we'll just go over some dad stuff, you know, kind of what's going on. Just a little recap or a little, you know, telling you what's going on in my life. You know, I know a lot of you aren't that interested, but obviously what's going on in Canada with the wildfires, it's pretty smoky here in northern Minnesota on the Iron Range and Chisholm and Hibbing, and air quality is pretty shitty. So hopefully everybody up there can stay safe. Thank you to all the firefighters that are going up there. Thank you to everybody that's volunteering and doing that kind of stuff. We do appreciate it. You know, high school basketball offseason practice is going to start up this next week for summer league. We got a tournament next weekend at St. Michael, St. Michael Albertville. So that'll be something that we're excited for. Me and the the kids and the girls on the team. And football starts here in a few weeks, obviously, with uh August coming up, high school football. We'll kind of dive into that when it's time. Really, not nothing else. The sauna business is going pretty decent. I know that you know Tony and I have been well, he's been very busy with all that kind of stuff, uh, getting saunas everywhere. They have been rented a lot. Like I've said before, Rough Bunker Sports Podcast is brought to you by Boss to Barrel Sauna Company. Go look at the website boss to barrel sauna co.com for any of your rental or custom sauna needs. Give myself or Tony a call. Uh, we can go ahead and we can help you with anything in that in that area. So, yeah, just jumping in here, kind of just looking our at uh anything like that. Alright, so let's

Hot Takes On Rings And Replays

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go. Let's do some hot takes here. Time to make some people mad. My opinions, you don't have to like them. Uh, I think ring culture has kind of ruined sports debates. You can debate all you want with who's the best, who's the goat, regardless of the sport. I'll I'll get off the LeBron Michael Jordan train here for a minute, uh, and I'll jump over to football. Uh, you know, Tom Brady has the most Super Bowl rings. Does that make him the best, the greatest of all time quarterback? I don't think so. My favorite and my opinion on it is Peyton Manning. I think Peyton Manning's the the best to ever do it. He's the smartest to ever do it. I don't think he was ever really surrounded with the coaching that Brady got. I d I I will admit, you know, Manning had more I wouldn't call him weapons, but more athletes around him to complement his style. Brady got spoiled a lot with top 10 defenses. If you look at the Super Bowls that Tom Brady won, he always had top 15, top 10 defenses on the other side. Peyton Manning never really did. The year that he had a top 10 defense or a top defense in the league was the Super Bowl run that he had, the first one in Indy, and then obviously the one in de in Denver. Uh and that last Super Bowl he won was definitely on the back of the defense. He was a shell of himself, he was old, he was hurt, he he couldn't move, you know. So but I think as an overall talent, I think that Manning is a better quarterback than Brady. I really do. Dan Marino is the best thrower of the football. And if you're going off, you know, ring culture and basketball, you'd have to go with Bill Russell. Bill Russell was obviously not the greatest of all time. He just wasn't. He was good for his era, he was good for his his role on the team, rebounder, defender, wasn't much of a scorer, but he did what he had to do to win games. And you know, winning 11 championships, that's you know, that's a pretty damn good feat. I mean, he he did a lot of that and he was the cornerstone of that, so you you can't take anything away from him. And and different eras have different uh uh athletes, you know. They say that Bill Russell was playing against plumbers and electricians, he wasn't even playing against real basketball players. Well, when Jordan won, you know, it took him a long time to win his first one, and in that time he beat an old uh Lakers team, old magic, uh, you know, the Pistons were old, the Celtics were old, and it was a center-driven league. It wasn't a guard-driven league like it is in the last 15, 15, 10, 15 years. It's and lately it's been a guard forward-driven league. There there aren't a lot of dominant centers. I think the last dominant center, and and he wasn't even in the era of dominant centers, was Dwight Howard. You put Dwight Howard in the 90s with his athleticism and all that kind of stuff, he wins rings. So I I just think the ring culture you can't you can't base it just off that. You gotta watch eye test, you gotta be able to know the game a little bit and know the the landscape of the leagues, you know, things like that. So we'll see. Next one that I have here for for hot take, and I'm only gonna do a couple of these. Every league should reduce replay reviews, and I and I've talked about this before, and I've talked on the Boston Boys podcast before about this. Reviews should only be used at certain times of the game. You take the human element out of it, and the only one that I can understand with the review stuff is is baseball. Balls and strikes. I mean, Angel Hernandez is a is a god-awful umpire. God-awful. If anybody knows anything about baseball and has heard the name Angel Hernandez, you understand what I'm saying. But then you look at the NBA side where every other play, they're trying to, you know, the guy on the floor is trying to spin his finger to have the coach review it. Fuck that. Can't do that. It it's just it takes too much. It's too much time, it's too much bullshit. It's just it's obnoxious and it makes the game go longer and it it's it just ruins it. It just it's annoying. Another one here that I can get into that I really feel strongly about is that dynasty talk starts way too early with teams. Now, perfect example is Oklahoma City Thunder. You know, everybody was talking about the dynasty that they were gonna have, and they're gonna win multiple rings, they're gonna win all this other stuff. I think it's I think it's done. I don't I don't think I don't think they're gonna win. They might win one, they might win maybe maybe two. But I just I don't think that they're a dynasty. I think they're a flash in the pan. I think with the culture of the league and how people are upset with the flopping and the foul baiting. I don't I I just I don't see it happening. Too many other teams are getting too talented, and too many other teams are getting to to content contention. You look at what San Antonio did, the Timberwolves are up there, you've got other teams that are on the rise. The West is just too good, it's way too good. And good for the Knicks for upsetting. You could call it an upset in the finals. A lot of people had the Spurs, and including myself, winning in six. And I'm you know, I was wrong. I was wrong. People were wrong. I'll I'm and I'm I'm able to admit that. But I do think I do think the dynasty talk stuff is happening way too early. And you even look at the Chiefs, you know, yeah, they made it to a bunch of Super Bowls, they won a couple Super Bowls, but I think they're they're another one where they're just falling off. And people people don't like dynasties, people don't like seeing the same teams in the Super Bowl over and over and over again or in the NBA finals over and over and over again. You lose kind of you kind of lose the you kind of lose the excitement. Like, yeah, everybody was excited when LeBron made nine nine finals in a row. Yeah, people were excited when Brady made it to the AFC championship game or the Super Bowl every single year, but that's their that's what the fan, their fans wanted. Like the common fan who, you know, doesn't really have a team or doesn't really have anything like that. They just enjoy the sport. They like watching other other people get in there. And I I just you can't label, oh, they're gonna be a dynasty. Oh, they're they win one and they're really young, they're gonna they're gonna win it all, they're gonna win like five, six, seven more. It's you can't do that. So uh on that note, just you know, tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong, and we can go ahead and we can debate that.

Minnesota Minute And LeBron Rumors

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Moving on to the Minnesota minute, you know, Viking expectations. Man, Vikings expectations. You know, I'm a pretty realistic fan, and I'd be shocked if they make the playoffs. Our division is so good between Detroit and Chicago and Green Bay. Man, if if we will have to have 12-13 wins just to just to make the playoffs, just just to get in, even as a wild card, because I think Chicago's gonna be that good. Ben Johnson's gonna have those boys ready to play. And just another year under Caleb Williams' belt, you know, he's he's gonna surprise some people. He might even be in the MVP vote. He might even be in the MVP race. Timberwolves outlook. I mean, I'm really hoping they get LeBron. Really, really hoping they get LeBron. I just I don't see it. If they get LeBron, they're tied for favorites to win the NBA championship. If they don't get LeBron, they might get to the West Finals, but they got to find some size, they got to get some depth on the bench. I just, I don't know. And I don't know if you can put McDaniels at power forward. He's just too small. Because you kind of want him guarding their best player. I know Ant's gonna move to the two, which is his natural position. You don't know what kind of shit you're gonna get into with Lamello. Hopefully he can keep his head on and play and you know, have a good season. Hopefully have a good outlook on it. Maybe Ant can keep him under control. Hopefully, Finch can rein his attitude and his stuff in. I just I really, really wish that they could land LeBron. I would be one of the first people running to the store for a LeBron jersey. I mean, it'd be awesome. And I think he has a great shot at winning a championship if he comes to Minnesota. Minnesota and Philly are the two teams that are his best shot at winning another championship. They're saying Golden State and Cleveland are the two front runners, and he's that's who he's cut it down to is Cleveland and Golden State. Now, on that note, if he goes to Golden State, if LeBron goes to Golden State and plays with Steph and Draymond, are we gonna give him the same criticism that we gave Kevin Durant? Granted, Kevin Durant lost to the Warriors, the previous series signed. He was up 3-2 or whatever he was up, 3-1, or I don't remember. Honestly, I really don't remember. But then he jumps over to Golden State and wins two two titles or went to three finals or whatever it was, and people tore him apart. People tore his ass up for going to the Warriors. Is LeBron gonna get that same criticism? Is he gonna get that same kind of you know, talk? Like I don't know. I know that him and Steph are old and they're friends and him and Draymond golf together and all this other stuff, but if he's gonna jump over to Golden State, why not give him the same thing that we gave Kevin Durant? Why not treat him the same way? And I understand the circumstances are a little different. I understand that the expectations are different, but even still, why are we giving him a pass and we completely just crucified Kevin Durant with that? I don't know. Tell me what you think on that. Twins update, you know, I don't I've said before, I don't really watch much of the twins until actually in the next couple weeks when it matters. I know my my friend Nick and I were talking about, you know, I talked about reducing the the games in baseball, like cutting it in half, and he disagreed with me. Now his his take on it was interesting, you know, you got it, you the best teams normally are in it for the long haul, uh, which he's not wrong. He's definitely not wrong. But at the same time, you create urgency when you cut the season down. You cut the season down like a COVID season where it was, you know, a sense of urgency in every game, pitching, hitting, you know, all those kind of things. But if you've played any sort of any level of baseball, in even high school baseball, it's it's a game of you know, runs. Like you're you're gonna get hot for a month and you might suck ass for a month. You might not even you might bat one for 40 in the matter of a month or in a matter of a couple series. And if you cut that season in half, you know, you you don't have the opportunity to do that. So I I I get it. And I think I think golf's getting more popular than baseball, even in youth, at the youth level. But that's a conversation for another day. In regards to the wild, I I don't pay attention much to to NHL hockey, honestly. And I know I'm from the state of hockey, and I know that for the area that I'm at is is big into hockey. I just I've never I've never really been into it, unfortunately. You know, I I watch the state high school hockey tournament because it's the most entertaining hockey in in the world ever at any point of the year. The Minnesota State High School Hockey Tournament is phenomenal. It's if you don't watch it and you have the opportunity to, do it. Whether it's class A or 2A, just trust me, it's entertaining even for people that never played hockey or don't watch a lot of hockey. It's it's pretty cool watching those kids play and how hard they play and how hard they work and all that kind of stuff. So definitely take it out or take a look at it. So the Minnesota Sports Therapy session is now officially open and closed.

Dad Life And Summer Sports Grind

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Moving on to Dad Life in the Rough. Just a couple things to touch on. Just a couple stories I'll tell with this time of year. You know, 4th of July is over. Now it's you know mid-July. So you're kind of looking at the end of summer. People are going on vacations before school starts up and before practice, you know, for fall sports starts up in a month. So, you know, like the family vacation stuff. We've gone on a couple of them, both to Disney. And I tell you what, I personally never have to go back to Orlando, Disney ever again with children. It's it's insanity. It's fun because you get to watch the reactions that they have to stuff, and you can watch their faces when you know they see the princesses, or they see the rides, or they see, you know, the Star Wars area, and it it's cool, even as an adult, to watch the kids do that, but it is exhausting. You honestly need a vacation after the vacation because it's so much so much walking, so much you know, paying attention to everything, so much planning, all that kind of stuff. And and you know, the kids don't really recognize it or realize it, but I think the one day that we were at Magic Kingdom, I think my wife and I walked over 20 some thousand steps or north of 25,000 steps. It was it was nuts. But you know, you you do it for the kids, you do it for that, and you know, their experience, and you you yourself you turn into a kid if you're anything like myself or my wife, and you grew up a Disney kid, and you're in your mid to late 30s, you know, it's it's fun for you too because it kind of brings you back to when you were a kid, but it's insanity, like you'd have to watch your kids, and I don't want to put my kids on a leash or nothing like that, but you almost have to, just because they they squirrel off, and even yourself as an adult squirrel off and whatever, and it's pretty nuts. And I recently actually got one of my kids into golf, my middle daughter, Chloe. She came golfing with me one time and and she did really well. Like the first time she went, she went with my wife to the range, and then I hit the range, and then I played nine holes quick. And Chloe really enjoyed it. Like, she had a lot of fun, and then I took her or her and I went twilight golfing one night at the local Muni here in Hibbing, and uh she didn't really hit much, but she hit a couple shots, and she she loved it, she really did, and you know, I'm I'm looking to get her a set of clubs eventually here. She needs she was actually golfing with my right-handed clubs, and she's left-handed, and she hits it pretty well. So it's pretty crazy what she did or what she can do swinging with her off her offhand, her her offside. But she really enjoyed it. And I know my my oldest daughter, Nina, her boyfriend golfs, and he was on the golf team for his high school, and I haven't really taken her yet just because she doesn't like being bad at. Sports, and that's probably my fault, honestly. Uh then my youngest daughter, she just she keeps bugging me to go golfing, and you know, and uh getting your kids into golfing and they want to go and everything like that, like that just gives you an excuse to golf more, to go with them. And you know, I I I like I like that. You know, I want to do stuff with my kids, but I also want to golf with my buddies and things like that. My wife, my wife gets mad at myself and Tony because we always say, you know, when we go golfing, we we just want to go. Him and I just want to go. So, you know, and it is what it is. Unfortunately, she uh she wants to, and I think we will go eventually as a couple.

Golf Gear Plug And Discount Code

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Alaskan Cruise Plans And Time Off

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goes. So I'm actually gonna get into our top 10 segment. So I have a list, like I said at the beginning of the show, top 10 most controversial sports opinions according to Chat GPT. Now, these aren't necessarily my opinions. I'll and I'll give my opinion after I read the the statement. So these are designed for sp to spark a debate. Obviously, it's it's it's objective facts, okay? And this is like I said from Chat GPT, their top 10 most controversial sports opinions. So if you want to debate me on these, we can go ahead and do that. You can leave comments, leave a review, and you can leave a review when you when you leave your review, you can then comment on that. I just have to pull it up here. Hold on. So top 10 most controversial

Top 10 Controversial Sports Opinions

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sports opinions. Number 10, college football was better before NIL and a transfer portal. You know, has player freedom improved the sport or has it hurt the tradition and team building? Now I've touched on this before. I think there needs to be rules and regulations on this transfer portal stuff. NIL, I'm okay with just because it was going on before, just under the table, and it was illegal. I have a bigger problem with the transfer portal. So I I do kind of agree with this half halfway. Transfer portals out of control. You you shouldn't be able to transfer every single year just because you don't like what's going on. It's hard for coaches to build a program. It's hard for schools to build a program with what kind of goes on with that. You look at Tom Brady, I'll just use I hate to use him as an example all the time, but I'm going to. He sat behind how many quarterbacks or how many years at Michigan, and then when he got a shot, he played. It it teaches you perseverance, it teaches you it, it teaches you that not everything's going to go your way, it teaches you a team aspect. So I mean, it's got its perks. Like if a there should be rules and regulations. If you're recruited by a certain coach and that coach leaves, you should be granted the ability to transfer. If it's health reasons, if it's something to do something to do with a tragedy, whether it be in the family or in the community or something like that, you should be able to do that. However, you should only be able to transfer freely once. If you're going to transfer a second time or a third time, you either need to sit out a year or there needs to be a penalty. Now, if you're getting NIL money also with that, if you're one of the top players, you should have to either pay that money back or reimb or reimburse. Maybe you shouldn't get that NIL check until you've completed a certain amount of years. Maybe that needs to be written in the contracts. Maybe there needs to be a contract. Maybe there needs to be a bargaining agreement. Maybe there needs to be a CBA. You know. Maybe there needs to be a whole bunch of stuff like that. Just because there's there's this there's too much going on where kids are just transferring because they're they they feel mistreated, or something like that. You know, you look at what happened at Michigan with Freeman or whatever his name was, those kids should be able to transfer. They should. They they really should. You look at like when Saban left Alabama, those kids should have been able to transfer because their coach left. The guy that recruited him and promised him all this stuff, they should be able to leave. One time. That's it. You get in trouble, maybe you have to transfer, maybe it's just the environment's not good for you. Go ahead. Okay, so number nine, the NBA regular season barely matters. Should Lily should the league shorten the season to make every game count? No. No, they shouldn't. Because it's a money, it's money. They're they'll never be able to afford it. I wouldn't say that it barely matters, but the good teams are the good teams, and they're gonna put they're gonna turn it on when they when they have to. I mean Oklahoma City, San Antonio, the Knicks, the Celtics, the Timberwolves. Yes, you want to win as many games as you can in the regular season. Yes, you want to put it out there that you know you're gonna get a certain seed. Some teams do tank. Some teams tank at the end of the year, so they don't they have a different matchup in the playoffs. Pretty sure that's what Denver did this last NBA playoffs. They wanted to play us instead of I don't remember who it was, but they chose to give away a game at the end, a couple games at the end of the year just so they had a matchup with the Timberwolves and it backfired on them. So, no, I I don't think it barely matters. I think that it matters enough to the right people. I don't know. Number eight, super teams have made pro sports less fun. Would fans rather watch parody than dynasties? Man, I'm pretty torn with this because you know, super teams define super team. I mean, is that the Heatles when LeBron went to the Heat? Is that the late 90s Rockets when Barkley, Elajuan, and Drexler played together? Is that the Celtics of the 80s when Bird McHale, Parish, Ainge, Bill Walton, you know, that's I'd consider that a super team. The Dodgers right now, and you can't fault those people and those teams for having the money to do it. I don't I don't think that it's made them less fun to watch. Look at what Durant and Curry and all those guys in in Golden State. It was fun to watch. People like scoring, people like offense. You don't see it so much in football just because there's such a hard cap in football. But basketball, I mean, it's it is what it is. Super, and it's just the way the league works now, where those guys want to play with their friends. Wouldn't you want to play with your friends if you were a professional athlete? Look at what LeBron's gonna do with Golden going to Golden State. That's not gonna be a super team, but you know, I don't I don't know, I don't necessarily think super teams have ruined pro sports or made it less fun to watch because it's headlines for people like myself and other sports media people. I don't know. Tell me what you think. Number seven, sports betting has become too intertwined with sports. I don't have an opinion on this, honestly. Has gambling made games more exciting or changed the fan experience for the worst? They knew how much money was in sports betting, they knew how much what it was gonna it was gonna do for everything, all sports, worldwide. I don't know. I I honestly I don't I don't know a good answer to that. I I'm not very versed, so you tell me what you think. Uh number six in the top ten most controversial sports opinion opinions according to chat GPT. Tom Brady isn't the most naturally talented quarterback ever. Greatest resume, probably most gifted. That's different. I kind of talked about that or touched on that earlier in this episode. I don't think he's the most naturally talented quarterback ever. That would probably go to Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Lamar I can't even put Lamar there because he's more of a runner than a thrower. But Dante Culpepper, who was doing all that in the early 2000s, you know, I can easily say Tom Brady is not big capital letters, not the most naturally talented quarterback ever. He's not. He's the greatest winning quarterback ever, and I'll give him that. Uh, number five, Tiger Woods did more for golf than Michael Jordan did with basketball or did for basketball. Jordan elevated basketball, but Tiger transformed who played and who watched golf. I would have to agree with that because I even watched golf at that time when Tiger was playing. He was one of the most exciting people in sports. He was doing things in one of the hardest, if not the hardest sport that nobody'd ever done before. He was insanely good. Michael Jordan piggybacked off of Bird and Magic. Bird and Magic saved the NBA, and then Michael Jordan came in and put a big wow factor on it because he was high flying, jumping, tongue out, you know, doing things that people had never seen. And then he brought international when he went over with the dream team in the Olympics. But I do think for the sport of golf between him and Michael Jordan for basketball, I do think Tiger Woods did more for golf because people got paid, man. People got rich, more people attended, more people watched, more networks wanted to have Tiger on TV. And that got guys and women paid a lot of money. Number four, in the top ten most controversial sports opinions, according to ChatGPT, ring culture has ruined sports debates. Can a player be an all-time great without multiple championships? I kind of touched on this earlier, too. I I yes. Yes, yes, it has. I don't know, I don't know if it ruined it, but it definitely makes it more difficult. Because you can't tell me that Michael Jordan's a better basketball player than than LeBron James. I don't care if he has six rings or not. You can't tell me that Bill Russell was a better basketball player than Charles Barkley. Because I don't think he was. It was a different era, different team, different, you know, athletes, all that kind of stuff. You can't tell me that Bob Coozie is better than Kyrie Irving. You just can't. I'm sorry. You can debate me all you want, you can say whatever you want. It just playing the game of basketball, and this is basketball-centric because that's the biggest debate is you know, who's the goat between LeBron, Jordan, Kobe, blah blah blah blah. You can't you can't tell me that playing the game of basketball, that Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James. LeBron James shoots better, passes better, rebounds better. I mean, defensively, yes. I'll I'll give Jordan defensively. Jordan was a top-tier defender. He really was. But playing the game of basketball, he is not better. Number three, baseball isn't boring, people just don't have the attention span anymore. Has has the game changed or have viewers just changed? I think baseball's hard to watch because you it's a game where you kind of have to know know the sport, and it's a patient person's game. It really it just is. I love baseball. I really do. It was my favorite sport to play as a kid, and even growing up, you know, playing slow-pitch men's league softball. I I I loved it, it's fun. And I just don't know if kids kids don't like failure, and baseball slash softball is a game of say it's a game of failure. So boring. I don't know. There's not enough wow in it for for today's kids, I guess you could say. Uh, number two, most youth sports have become way too serious. Travel teams, private coaching, year-round schedules. Uh, is it helping kids or burning them out? I I man. I think parents are taking it too seriously. I think a lot of parents are trying to live through their kids and make them something that they're not. I I do think that kids get burnt out. It takes the fun out of it. All the travel, all the, you know, the strict schedules, the strict, you know, meal plannings, things like that. It just it's too much for kids that are 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, early teens. It's it's just it's too much. And maybe that's just me because I'm older and I don't remember ever really doing that, and I wasn't exactly a top-tier athlete. I'll be the first to say that. But I think it's the it's more parents than than the kids that are just way too serious about it. You know, you you can only ask a kid to do so much, and it burns them out, and it actually gets them if they're more likely to get hurt, more likely to blow a knee out or a hip or shoulder or elbow or things like that when it's just too much, too many miles on the arm or too many miles on the knees, or something like that. So, yeah, that's my opinion on that. And the number one, the number one most controversial sports opinion, according to chat GPT, the goat debate is impossible because every era is different. Whether it's Jordan LeBron, Brady Mahomes, Woods Nicholas, different it's different rules, training and competition make direct comparisons nearly impossible. You know, and with like LeBron and and Jordan, when Jordan played, like I said, it's it was a such a big center power forward driven league, and such slowed down play and a lot of half-court and all that kind of stuff. He didn't play against a lot of all-time guards. He just didn't. They packed the paint and didn't let him leave the floor. Like that's just what it was. Forever. And then you even look at like Shaq, most dominant NBA player ever, ever to touch a basketball is Shaquille O'Neal. You had three or four centers or power big power forwards on the team that their only job was to get out there and beat the hell out of him. Like just beat the shit out of him, hack his arms, stick their knees in his legs, push him, pull him, do whatever they had to do to keep him out of the rim. And it was a different era. And then you can go into like the Steph Curry, LeBron, Durant era. You can't touch anybody. You can't bump him, bump him going through the lane. You can't really do any of that. Look at what Allen Iverson went through. Man, he got the shit kicked out of him too. Six-foot guard getting going to the rim every time. Like he was he was nuts. He was crazy. And then in regards to football, you know, Brady Mahomes, you know, when Brady first started, it was a running league. Like that's what they did. I formation, pro formation, 11-12 personnel, you know, it's just, it's, it's a lot different. And then as Brady got older and it turned into a passing league, he adapted. Like obviously, when he got old and when he got Moss in what 07, like and broke all those records. Like that, that's kind of when he figured it out. Like, man, this is a passing league. Like, I can throw the ball all over the place. Peyton Manning, same thing. You know, and Woods Nicholas, you know, different clubs, different uh, different equipment, different training, all that kind of stuff. So I mean, you can compare it, but I don't think you can ever like Michael Jordan was the goat of his era. LeBron was the goat of his era. Tom Brady, goat of his era. Mahomes is the goat of his era right now. Rory McElroy is the goat of the era in golf right now. So I mean it's it's a lot of stuff like that. So, alright, Bunker Nation. Which take got you all fired up? Let me know. Which one am I dead wrong about? Drop your top three hottest opinions in the comments and I'll read the best ones for episode eight. So, like I said, these are just according to Chat GPT top ten most controversial sports opinions. I I do like that. I really, really like that top ten kind of talking point with that kind of stuff.

Rapid Fire Questions And Wrap Up

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And then I just have a rapid fire here. Just want to know some opinions from You guys, and I'll and I'll give you my my quick answers here. So just a rapid fire segment. Best mascot. I'm pretty biased on that. I like Smokey the Dog from the University of Tennessee. I just do. I can't really give you a reason on why. Best sports logo. Man, there's a lot of them. Uh, it depends on what you're going with. I can just go with let's see. If I go with college. College, college, college. You know what? Give me your favorite or best sports logo. Let me know in the comments. Most overrated athlete. Now are we going all-time or are we going current? So currently most overrated athlete. Let me know who you think is the most current overrated athlete. Okay. So I'm just gonna go ahead and I'm going to close it out there for the episode this week. I'm gonna keep it a little lighter. I'm not gonna do any sort of prediction or lock for the week. I'm hoping I can get out on the golf course here soon. My wife and I have, like I said, our trip coming up here at the beginning of August. We do have my 20-year class reunion here in two weeks. Actually, not this weekend, but next weekend. Nope, that's the same weekend as we have as we leave for Alaska. Next weekend, actually, I'm sorry, is Water Carnival weekend. Good luck to all my buddies that are playing softball in the Hoyt Lakes Water Carnival. We're going Friday night to watch some shitty cover band. That's their name. Some shitty cover band. Look them up. They're amazing. They do all sorts of different types of music. Good guys, good music, good show. And then Saturday, we're doing Bear Olympics at Tony's house. Should be a good time. I'll let you know how that goes. I'll probably have my mics on me and record some stuff and do some videos and some content there. Then Sunday, my kids and I, my two older daughters and I leave for St. Michael, Albertville for a basketball tournament. So I appreciate you guys. Like I said, share and listen. Or share and review, not listen, because if you've listened, you're gonna share it with a family member, with a friend. I do appreciate everything. I appreciate all the feedback from people. I appreciate all the comments and well-wishes and things like that. I just wanted to shout out, like I said, Boss 2 Barrel Sauna Company. Bring the sauna experience home. Boss 2 Barrel Sauna Company creates beautiful, durable barrel saunas to rent. Uh, we can build a custom sauna if you want to go ahead and do that for real relaxation, recovery, and year-round Minnesota living. Uh, whether it's after a long workday, a hard workout, cold winter morning, or a weekend with friends, your backyard can become the place everyone wants to be. They're built for heat, made for comfort, and designed to last. So turn your backyard into your favorite escape. Go ahead and look up boss2barrels sounacompany.com, relax, recover, and repeat. Go ahead, reach out to myself or Tony or look online at the website. Again, thank you for listening. I appreciate every single one of you guys. Merch will be coming out soon. Check us out on Shopify at Boss Tube Boss2 Boys on Shopify. Go ahead and pick out either your favorite rough bunker or Boss Two Boys apparel, hats, sweatshirts. I believe I have coffee mugs on there, crew necks. If you want anything special or specific, reach out. I can try and make something for you. I don't think there is anything else really for you. Uh so remember enjoy the game, enjoy your family. Don't take either for granted. And just remember, dad, coach, fan, live by that. And have a good day. Thank you. And we will see you next time on Rough Bunker Sports Podcast.