Phreak Klass Season 1 Episode 5 Carley Harper

This week, Phaidra brings in guest host, actor, Carley Harper for a special episode during which they compare notes on their journeys dealing with parents with chronic health issues. The conversation covers the role diet, exercise and mindset might play in these situations as well as the role detoxification, exercise, mindfulness and other practices might play in combatting and even reversing the conditions

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SPEAKER_01 0:12

This is free class, and I'm your host, Phaedra Knight, known affectionately to my friends as PK. Today is a first in studio guest who is going to help me unpack some of my journey sharing similarities in her life as a counterpoint. This should be fun. My guest today grew up on a peach farm in Colorado. See, already there's one of the similarities as you know. I grew up on a farm in Georgia. And what is Georgia known for? Peaches. Keep up. She grew up active riding horses and snowboarding, among other things that I did not do. She worked in the medical field, which we'll discuss later before finding her thing. Acting. In fact, that's how we met in a roundabout way. We met through MMA, where she's preparing for a movie. So let me introduce you to my guest tonight, Carly Harper.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Thank you for having me here, PK, and outside of the cage for once.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Hey, pleasure to have you here and thank you for coming on board. Now many of you know my story. I'm a Georgia girl from a farm who grew up and went to law school. I developed a passion for rugby and became a professional rugby player and played on the U.S. women's rugby team. Over a 12-year period, I played in three Rugby World Cups and was named USA Rugby Player of the Decade in 2010. I was inducted into the World Rugby Hall of Fame in 2017. And along the way, I became an activist for women's rights, a philanthropist, an entrepreneur, and now I'm an MMA fighter. Along the way, I became an activist for women's rights, a philanthropist, and an entrepreneur, and now I'm an MMA fighter. I've packed as much into this first 50 years as humanly possible. And because now I realize I need at least another 50 to check off the things on my list, I've developed another passion, which is also biohacking, or my quest to learn how I can utilize medical, nutritional, electronic, biological, spiritual, and bleeding edge science to keep operating at an optimal level for as long as humanly possible. On my podcast, free class, we talk about what I've done and what I've learned. I'll introduce you to the people who have helped me and we'll meet some of the people I think can help us together. So let's get started. First, I would love to set the stage by having you talk about your journey and how you came to be an actor and how you and I met.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Um, well, I learned about you long before I got to meet you, which I think is similar to my journey to be an actor. I for years I always wanted to be an actor. I was too afraid to say it and too embarrassed. So truly I never told anyone in my life. Um I went to college and studied uh in the sciences and math and science and went into medical research for years. I I started in the ICU doing research. And then I always wanted to move into chemotherapy research. So I was fortunate enough to work for a really amazing oncologist named Dr. Baronson, and we researched chemotherapies for multiple myeloma for years. And um during that time I always wanted to be an actor. And so while I was working on medical research, I at night would take acting classes. And I when I would have to go to class, I would tell my friends and family that I had a painting class um just for fun. Because I couldn't tell a single person. I don't know why. The I just couldn't come out and tell everybody that this is really what I wanted to do. So I always thought it would be something I did on the side. And I didn't have to tell anyone. So I'd do theater on the side and didn't tell anyone. I would be in acting class. And I always felt like I was going to fight club, which is interesting that fast forward all these years, I do actually go to fight clubs now. Yeah, you do. Yeah. And so for years I studied twice a week, um, plus doing plays that I would get cast in. And finally, I had um I started auditioning, and I still thought no one will ever see anything I'm in, because actors, we do small little projects that no one's heard of. And I landed a national commercial with Home Depot, which is my favorite store. For anybody who knows me, they know construction is my favorite thing to do. So I was very excited to be in this Home Depot commercial, and that's what outed me. People started seeing it and saying, Did I see you on TV? Are you an actor? And so for the first time, I told my parents, I told my best friend Leah. Um, yeah, and from there things just grew. I started writing, I started producing, and uh I finally two years ago went full time into acting and producing when I started finally making enough to support my acting habit through acting and producing. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Wow, wow, that's an amazing thing. Thank you for that. It's actually a great segue into how I want to spend the time this evening talking about our health and our wellness journeys and uh that of some close loved ones for both of us, your dad, my mom, and how we're navigating through and trying to apply what we're learning. Um you worked in the health field, as you mentioned. Um, what is your overall opinion of how we are doing generally helping people take care of their health?

SPEAKER_00 6:10

I of course I think that's an amazing question. My opinion on that is that um I think by and large, half the population is really moving in the right direction. I think the other half of the population, I I I believe in modern medicine. Obviously, I've worked in that um area, but I think that by and large, a lot of people are relying too much on medicine and toxins um when they aren't needed. Sometimes they are required, and I there's always a time and place for that. Um but I think it is really exciting that people like you are really leading the way and showing us another direction that we can go, which through biohacking, through um, you know, really taking care of our bodies as we move through life and understanding that the way we lead our lives, what we eat, what we put in our bodies, um our mental health, all of that makes changes as we move through life. And specifically, you know, the area that I'm really passionate about is epigenetics.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

That's a I mean, that's a relatively new, I mean, in the last what, 30, 40 year um area that's now just growing day by day, right? Learning more and more about epigenetics. And that's uh can you tell us exactly what that is?

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Yeah, so in general, uh we have our DNA sequence that we are all born with. But um, epigenetics from the research that we have now really shows that it we don't change our DNA, rather, we turn on and off certain sequences. So your DNA stays the same, but something might be silenced and something might be activated. So while you might see, for example, in my family, nobody has had Parkinson's. And now my father was diagnosed with Parkinson's. And I think that that's probably due to some epigenetics. He worked in construction like me. He knows really worked hard around a lot of chemicals throughout his life, um, paints, and you know, back then they really didn't use the proper equipment to protect him. So I think through the inhalation of these toxins, certain sequences in his DNA were turned on. And so now he is working through Parkinson's.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

But is he exploring like other modalities other than like can like what I call allopathic medicine to sort of turn off the expression of the the D, you know, the DNA expression that's creating this Parkinson's disease?

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Yes, he is. Uh I get really excited talking about my dad because he's just such a good, amazing person. Um, and also, you know, he's a peach farmer and he's so forward-thinking, so intelligent. He he um tutored me through Calc 3, Vector Calc, and he didn't go to college. Wow. But he's just he's a mind. He loves to read and learn. And so he didn't go directly to the pharmaceutical companies to get help with Parkinson's right away. He changed his diet. Um, he loves donuts a lot. He loves processed foods just like me. He sounds like my mom. They love sweets, they're so much alike. Yeah. So he was just really disciplined about working on his diet um and then working on his lifestyle. And he really believes, and I do believe him, that skiing every day has really helped his shaking. Um, and the doctor actually told him that he should work hard. So he comes and we do construction together because it helps him focus with his shaking. Um so, you know, mostly I would say he's really focused on fine-tuned movement, working on his mental state and his diet.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

That's that's I mean, that's the first step to detoxification, right? Because I think I mean eating and nutrition and food and the process of of digestion is one of the nastiest cellular processes the the body c you know, can does on a regular basis, right? So um that makes all the sense in the world. I guess, you know, with my mom, just similar to your story, you know, she was diagnosed um maybe two and a half, three years ago with like MCI slash early stage Alzheimer's. Right. And, you know, it uh it's crazy because she has always worked her whole life, has tried to be healthy, but it's there's so many things that you're unaware of that you're exposed to, much like your father, it's being exposed to the toxins probably in this in the paint and all of these different chemicals. And uh my my mom, and much like me, uh has a predisposition to not being able to detoxify well. So if you can't detoxify, where are these toxins going? It's gonna start causing this, you know, this this expression, right? This DNA expression that you're characterizing as it relates to epigenetics. And so what what what you're basically saying is that and I've had other guests on the podcast that talked about this, uh, Dr. Gerson in particular, you know, your lifestyle will impact your genetic expression. And so that's a double-edged sword, right? It could be a terrible thing, but it could also something that you can switch off, which is hopeful. But we have to take steps to doing that, right? That's many of what your father's doing. And I think that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

I I think something really interesting that your mother and my father have in common is you know, a lot of times we associate older generations with not being open-minded. And they have been open to being healthy. And we really saw this in research. Um, something Dr. Baronsid would comment on a lot is he would walk out of the room and you could know right away how somebody was going to be tolerating chemotherapies and the process through multiple myeloma because of their mindset. Yeah. If you have a forward-thinking mindset, it really makes a huge difference. And, you know, your mother shows up, you know, I've seen her at the gym, at the academy, and you know, she's just so forward-thinking. Nothing's, you know, she's willing to jump in the ring and work on boxing and Y Thai. She hates it.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

She hates boxing. But, you know, like you say, like I've talked to her and told her like, listen, I had this conversation with her just two days ago. I said, listen, you're gonna have to do things you don't want to do. That's that like I literally had a conversation uh with a doctor this morning, uh, one of your one of your doctors, and that was the la that was the thing they the lasting thing they left me with was that she needs to do things like puzzles and things that she doesn't want to do because that's forcing the brain to develop neuroplasticity and then they're in in areas and ways that she's never done. So you she's not going down these familiar pathways, she's creating more, you know, different, you know, neuro, um, is it like neurogenesis, right? And so, you know, it and she's she was accepting, you know, she accepted it. I have to remind her because this is a part of her issue, right? She can't, her short-term memory is is really impaired, but she's willing to do anything I do, anything. And this woman is physically able to do anything I do. I put her, I brought her with me to Midtown Biohack. Um, and shout out to Dr. Chuck Morris. But I brought her to Midtown Biohack and put her on the ARX machine because they just wanted to like test her static ability on the leg press. And she's static pressing us like over 600 pounds. Why? 78, almost 78-year-old woman. But she she's in phenomenal shape. I I literally, she's a chick. She's hot. She's a hot chick. My mom's a hot chick, right? And and but she's just so and she's the sweetest person in the world. But what I wanted to say, uh to get to was that, you know, she's she's very progressive, but it didn't, and when it when she first got her diagnosis, it wasn't easy, right? Because I knew all of this stuff about I'd gone down this whole rabbit hole uh years leading up with Dale Bredison, who's um uh a doctor out of out of UCLA who has created what's called Recode. And RECODE is it's an acronym for I'll have to reference it on the uh website. But um basically he's reversing, he's he's created this system to reverse dementia in Alzheimer's, right? And it's all the things that we're talking about. It's nutrition, keto, you know, m being mildly ketogenic, right? Um, removing toxins not only from your environment but from your body. You have to literally go in and detoxify. Where people think, oh, my liver detoxifies and my kidneys detoxify, but when they're loaded and your genetic like your genetic expression is not kicked in to detox, you don't detox. Right. And so all this stuff manifests, and this is the result of it Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. And so, you know, she she you know all of these things, right? But I followed him, and uh, so I knew so many things that she's still completely unaware of, right? She's only, you know, knows what she knows, which is allopathic medicine, which is what most people are exposed to. And so when we first started, when she first got this diagnosis, I've got all these things that I wanted to do. Oh, it she wasn't she wasn't open to it. She was, I think she was dealing with the you know, probably the shock of what she had, the frustration of it, and she didn't want me telling her what she needed to do. And I didn't and so it was just like a learning experience. I had to lay off. I had to lay off until she was ready.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Right? Did you have that a similar experience with your father? I did.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

You know, it's this thing that we hear about from other people and this shift that happens in your relationship with the people you love the most. They're your parents, they're the ones who guide you. So, you know, people say it's uncomfortable for their parents to have to accept that shift, but wouldn't you say it was equally uncomfortable for you?

SPEAKER_01 16:22

I got to the point where I was so offended. Like I I was, I mean, you can ask Christine, my partner. I was so depressed. Um, I was, you know, scared as well. But I was, you know, depressed because she wouldn't, she didn't want to follow. I thought that she didn't want to fight. I took that as her not wanting to fight. Yes. And she'd say, No, I want to fight. And I'm like, Well, how do you how the hell do you want to fight when you're not doing what it I'm telling you the things that you need to do are these things. And so she wouldn't listen. So I took myself out because I knew emotionally I was getting going down a really bad dark path. I said, you know what? I I'm not gonna talk to you. I can't talk to you. Um, I I just I don't want to talk to you. And she's like, you know, and she said, like, listen, like, I love you, you're my daughter, like, you know, this doesn't need to like separate us. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You're going down a path that's a it's it's terminal. Like, and if you don't intervene quickly enough, it becomes terminal. Like there's only you have a m there's only a certain amount of time that you're gonna have to turn this ship around. Um, and the brain is something that heals very slowly. So the progression of your healing is going to be a slow process as it is. It's just that's the nature of it. Um, you know, and so I had to step back and energetically I had to step back. And it it seems as though it's you know, when I took that step back, then she stepped up.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Right? Because I think she got to a place where she started to lose different abilities. You know, she started to lose more memory, she had confusion, and she just needed a pathway forward. And no one, she was doing a clinical trial down in in Augusta, I'm sorry, in Columbus, Georgia, with an uh a neurologist and wasn't really feeling any different. And I and I said, Well, they're trying to give you a silver bullet for a problem, you know, that's so multifaceted. It's like as Dale Bredison says, it's like trying to fill, you know, you have 37 or 36 holes in your roof, and you're literally trying to fill those holes by putting filling one hole. It's just not gonna work. Right. So she eventually came around and um and then I started opening her up to all of these things. Like this woman has she will do the things that I have done. Like she literally got all of her teeth extracted in the top because she had periodontal disease, and she needed to have those teeth extracted. And I have pictures of her with her mouth piled open and you know, like these gaping holes and just diseased necrotic bone. But, you know, shout out to Dr. Dr. Jigar Gandhi, who I saw first. Everything I put her through, I did first, right? Because I she's my mom. I'm I have a very similar genetic construct. So anything that she's had she has or my father has, I am, I I have a likelihood of developing if I don't intervene in my own, you know, decisions with my health. And so um, yeah, she I mean, she she I went to Dr. uh Gandhi and got root canals taken out of my mouth. And she said, this is what you gotta do. You gotta go in to a doctor that's Swiss trained who knows how to treat the gums and actually heal your mouth because that is a source of disease, you know, chronic disease has been linked to heart disease, it's been linked to Alzheimer's, the bacteria that they find, you know, in the brain that causes the amyloid plaque starts in the mouth. So it's just, you know, it's crazy. But you know, she she actually finally believed and trusted, and now it's we're locked instead, you know?

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Can I ask you, did you see a significant difference? Because that's a lot of toxins.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah. Well, we what we the difference I've seen is that I think her the progression has stopped, right? Like stress, and what people don't understand, this stress is a toxin within itself. So I could say over the last few weeks, she's been very stressed in her home environment. And so it l feels like she's taken two or three steps back. But it's this is stress, so this is a toxin, so it's she's very sensitive to any toxin, you know, any toxicity. And so, yes, absolutely. We've seen a change in, you know, her just it's just how she what do they call it, like the Alzheimer's stare. Like that went away after the oral surgery. But she's also done like we took her, I took her down to Dr. Scott Gerson and we did Pancha Karma. And I literally dropped her off because he told me to run out and you know, he I think he wanted to have some time with her to spend some time with her one-on-one. And he he did one um just oil massage with her. And I came back and I thought, I was like, where's my mom? Like she literally looked 20 years younger, and she already looks younger, far younger than her age, but she looked like she took another 20 years, you know, of aging off of her life because of the oil, right? Hydrated her skin within an hour. It was so crazy. So, but the point is that I took her there, she did that. Um, so it's been a number of different things that we've had, you know, non-traditional, non-allopathic, right? These are more rooted in, well, for Panchacarma, it's rooted in Ayurvedic medicine. And, you know, with the, I guess the Swiss dentistry, it's kind of it's it's it's a more of a functional sort of integrative. approach to medicine, right? But that has been what has led us to, you know, basically slowing, if not stopping, the progression and starting to see some things, you know, get better. Right. And it's not a it's not a linear pathway. Like she can take three steps forward and take four back, take two forward and think that she's not making progress because the last thing she remembers is or the last step she took was backwards. But the net sum of that is one step forward. Right. And so what we have to what I have to keep reminding myself, reminding my sister, reminding her, and it's constant reminding her, obviously because again, because of her situation, is that you've taken a step forward. And it it's actually taken about a year and a half, but you took a step forward. And that's what we're focused on. Right. So um you know I'm coach I'm constantly coaching her, right? Because I need her to like stay positive and realize and understand what she's accomplishing. So it's it's been an it's been a really interesting journey so far.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

I think that's really important to share that you're seeing the forward progress because I don't know if you've experienced this. It sounds like you have but a lot of people I would say everybody told me except for one physical therapist who's amazing a friend of mine Cassidy Lake that I grew up with everybody told me you know you have to be careful because as far as he progresses he'll never get better. She was the only person that said you actually can reverse this. They'll tell you you can't but you can but the problem is just like everything else you know the fastest mile everything that's been done in history it it's hard to break that barrier because our mind tells us you can't run any faster than this, you can't swim any faster than this. Whatever barriers that we put on ourselves we believe in the mind is so powerful. And then as soon as somebody breaks that then all of a sudden five, six, ten people break it's right. And so I think something that's dangerous with um health and wellness and dealing with disease is saying well once you get here you know that you can't get better and you can you know my father for a while he couldn't sign his name anymore on checks. Wow. And you know for me it it's really and I think a lot of kids with you know parents that we're really close to it's hard because they're our heroes. They're strong. You know I've built built with my dad for years we tear down houses and we rebuild them. So he's you know this really strong, brilliant man. And you know to see um you know the shaking so now you know he'll have me do most of the cuts which is you know never been done before. Um you know it's a shift but to see that because he kept his mind positive and you know he shared with me that he couldn't sign his checks anymore that he wanted to go get help for that. And he knew he could turn around. It wasn't he never even thought about the fact that maybe he couldn't. Right. And so he, you know, a month later he can sign his checks now. It it you know he could reverse it. Yeah. And I think also it's um it's really hard to quantify you know the using biohacking to be healthy. We're all in different situations. So I had to accept because it's it was really stressful for me that you know my dad lives in a really small town in Colorado. I still don't think that we have a stoplight in our actual hometown. And so his access to great doctors is not there. But you know what is there? Something probably even better clean air actually organic food. You know he grows he's on his own peach farm. So he has apricots he has cherries he grows so many tomatoes I don't even know what he does with them. Yeah you know he has his own chickens so while there's some there's always a trade-off whereas if he was here in New York with us he would be breathing in all these toxins.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

It's terrible it's the the amount of toxins we breathe in and and you you make a really valid point but what he does have that ex that links him to this this biohacking world we're talking about all these wellness tactics you know that are sort of aggregated into this term biohack. What he does have is you and you have access and he probably does too to all of these people by way wonderfully we have the internet right it's good it's pros and cons to that too but we have access and we can do our research to find the great Andrew Heymans out there and the great Scott Gersons right the the the the Jigger Gandhi's um the Dr Shears right there and the Chuck Norris's these are the people who are out there and the Josh Parks right from motion like they're out there doing things that you know on a on a mass scale people are unaware of but the things that they're doing are changing people's lives Dale Bredison right and he's probably the most mainstream of all those people right but he and he's not mainstream. But the beauty of it he has you and if as long as he is open and as you say progressive much like my mom to taking these steps forward if they see a little bit of progress they trust you. Because no one else is bringing them that and I'll go back to the point in what you said like most people you know everyone said that you can't reverse this. Yeah Alzheimer's and dementia are death sentences right they're they're they're death sentences for literally most of the people right because but it it doesn't have to be that way these things are reversible you just have to start somewhere start with detoxing detoxifying right start with you know um remove you know doing getting mold tested in your body getting mold tested in your house all of these things right they add up and when you you don't have to remove you don't have to plug as as Berton it may not be 36 holes but I'm saying 36. You don't have to plug all 36 holes just plug five and you start reversing the condition right and then you can like you I'm I'm a like fanatic about perfection so I'm gonna try to plug all 36 right but you know you can start with five and then you just build your way but the human body as it is pre-injection of any stem cells into the body is is set up to live about 120 years at least right so we are falling way short of what we are capable of as a especially as humans in the US right um uh but worldwide there's so much more we can do but we you have to be proactive about your health you have to quarterback your own health you cannot rely on your doctor to do it no doctor I don't care I'm not relying on Dr. Andrew Heyman to quarterback my health I'm quarterbacking my health and any doctor that's that's that cares about you is going to tell you to do that.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

That you have to be the quarterback of you because you're the person that lives in your body all the time right so you know it it's it's um it's just it's an interesting thing um but and it's not just we talk we're talking about in our particular cases Parkinson's disease and and and Alzheimer's disease but chronic disease is every chronic disease they call it the five horsemen right you've got Alzheimer's you've got diabetes you've got cancer you've got heart disease right um and then you've you've or Alzheimer's dementia and then there's a fifth that I'm I'm I'm I'm uh at a loss for right now in the moment but the point and Peter or Tia talks about them uh very much in his book and in his podcast but these chronic diseases are born in metabolic dysfunction that's one issue the metabolic dysfunction and so if you can focus on the metabolic dysfunction and all the things that contribute to that which is toxicity which is insulin resistance you know which is you know all of these things then you can start to turn the tide on chronic disease yeah absolutely and I I really like the point that you have to be the quarterback of your own health um even before all this my dad went into the doctor and he had really high cholesterol and you know they wanted to put him on meds and he's like hey give me a month they're like no it's pretty high you know you need to do it he just insisted on you know he said no really I can change my diet and it was such a significant change that they're you know really insisted he couldn't but like me he has an incredible sweet tooth so I think it he went back and it his cholesterol went down and you know the doctor asked what did you do he said well I was eating six donuts a day now I'm eating one which is funny but at the same someone like me anybody who's seen me eat I just you got a tapeworm. Everyone says that but you know we enjoy what we enjoy we don't want to change our lives. That's cool. I want to eat three full entrees but the day that somebody says you know your health is really out of control you can only eat one I'm gonna have to you know pull it back but something that I really see in you I've never seen you know in my whole life around you know athletes incredible people um you and uh Will from this company Buo BUO you guys really are the most incredibly healthy human beings so disciplined and one thing I think we all get overwhelmed by this biohacking you know every time I talk to you I take it seriously but you're on a whole other level that I can't keep up with my mom says I've never met a vitamin I didn't love but you know you truly have a bedroom of vitamins and supplements the pantry it's incredible. Um but I think a few things that just make it more in reach to people is yes it's it's expensive to eat healthy but it's also expensive not to. Exactly. And so if you pay attention to where you source your meat for example or your vegetables that's something I didn't take seriously for a long time and the change I feel in my body that's right is phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

I mean I'm you know I I don't train as hard as you but I'm training like you know four hours a day five days a week right now I couldn't have done that before that's right I'm obviously the oldest I've ever been and I'm in the best shape of my life. That's right. And you know it's because of people like Rob and Will and you know being around incredible humans and athletes like you but it's that eating is where you can start and make it simple. Consume your water and source your food responsibly. It really matters if they're on antibiotics it really matters if you're eating organic.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

1000% because you're putting more toxins into your body if you don't and it's either you pay now in terms of quality food and really quality food like research get food get get meat from pasture raised like pasture raised animals that's what you want to be eating and consuming. Those that's like creme de la creme right but you're right like you pay now or you pay later with your health yeah I'm sorry financially yeah and financially I'd rather pay up front and reorientate myself around just how I'm living because to me not there's nothing more important than waking up feeling good and being healthy. Health is wealth and so I I 1000% agree with you on that one thousand percent um it uh yeah like like you said it you hit the nail on the head with the food like that's the place that where everyone can start and the fact that you have a sweet tooth no big deal you have things like monk fruit now that replace sugar. Okay if you have not that sugar listen you can have sugar but it's excessive sugar like we like hundreds times more sugar than we than than people ate you know a hundred years ago because we have easy access to it right and so replace it with mock fruit right it's it's giving you what you need without giving you what you don't need right if you need that dopamine hit or that sweet sweetness in your in you know whatever right in your donuts right make it yourself right or make one or have one donut start there like instead of six like your dad he's a he's a shining example for people to follow reduce it and the cholesterol the reason why the cholesterol gets a it gets a bad name but the cholesterol itself is just it's just a indicator of toxicity. So the higher your cholesterol it's not the cholesterol itself that's bad it's why it's being driven up right and so when he reduced his sugar load he reduced his toxicity load which meant a lessening in his cholesterol.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Yeah and and that's the example for him but everybody reacts differently um but for me I had issues with migraines and I will say cutting out sugar changed my life. Yeah um I th always thought it was stress and there was a period in my life in 2020 where I was the most stress I've ever been in my life but I wasn't eating sugar and I didn't get a single migraine that year.

unknown 35:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

There you go. I would love to keep talking to you and we're gonna could pick up this conversation in season two for sure. But I want to thank you Carly Harper for being my guest today.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

What are you working on now? We're getting ready for Girl in the Red Corner which has been an incredible journey that's how I met you training with Rob at the Henzo Gracie Academy very appreciative of everyone there and I love being in there doing all the MMA training in the cage and learning from you.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

The most incredible inspiring woman I've seen thank you thank you well that's where we can see you next and we look forward to you to seeing you in Girl in the Red Corner. I can't wait till that starts filming and uh eventually comes out in movie theaters. So I am Phaedra Knight this has been Freak class. Please subscribe where you get your podcast and if you like the podcast share it with your friends