Phreak Klass Season 1 Episode 4 Joshua Park

In this episode, Phaidra talks with Joshua Park, founder of MOCEAN an advanced integrative physical therapy, recovery, and human optimization center. It blends high-tech diagnostics, data-driven wellness protocols, and hands-on clinical care to treat the whole body. 

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SPEAKER_00 0:33

Exposing your body to the punishment that starts from performing at the top level in sports that are about violent contact as an athlete for half my life has always had me searching. Searching for ways to get stronger, searching for ways to increase flexibility and range of motion, searching for the right things to eat, to fuel, and not harm my body. Searching for ways to recover and make my mind strong. This journey that I am on has made me experienced students of what's out there. Now, as a professional MMA fighter at 50 years old, I feel more of an urgency to learn whatever I can and apply it to extend this wonderful privilege I've had to be a professional athlete for so long. My guest today is Joshua Park, the founder of Motion. Motion is my OASIS. It is a cutting-edge health and wellness practice in Midtown. Motion is a cool name, but it is also an acronym. Motion stands for muscles, organs, circulation, emotion, articular joint, and nervous system. Joshua, welcome to my podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

That was just such a beautiful, amazing intro. Hey Josh.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Thanks, Josh. I'm so happy to have you here. I mean this is, you know, the our relationship has has has you know obviously spanned a few years. It feels like a real lifetime with the amount of good service you've you've provided to me and my body and my soul. But thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you. Now, I know what I get out of motion, and we'll talk about that today, but can you tell us about the origin of motion? I know it's wrapped up in your own personal health journey.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Yes, so uh to give you a little bit of the background how motion started, it actually comes from my own personal health experience. So uh our family came to America from Korea when I was in high school, you know, and as an immigrant family, you know, my parents worked hard. And one day in high school, I was doing a squat, I injured my back. But because we didn't have insurance, I just uh kept it to myself, just taking over-the-counter pain medicine. But it got worse to the point I couldn't sleep. So I finally told my parents and they started to take their times off from work to take me to a different doctor's office. I've been to so many different doctors over like uh like six to eight months. So different chiropractors, uh, doctors, physical therapists, you name it, I try to see everyone. But what really made me frustrated is that they didn't really care about my well-being. You know? As soon as I go, they know exactly, okay, my back pain, they in protocol were almost everyone was same, you know, and spend like 15, 20 minutes same kind of cookie cutter type of exercise or treatment. So I, you know, after like uh I got so fed up, so I told my parents I'm fine. Then I started to rely on more heavier pain medicine medicine. But that got me into a severe like drug addict and then uh led to a severe depression. In college, I attempted committing a suicide because pain became unbearable.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Yeah, so uh yeah, so uh when so from those experiences, I felt that uh our current healthcare system is so fragmented. You know, it's not really for the people, but it's really for uh hospitals or for business. So I wanted to create a place where people can truly be heard and be healed from the genuine like treatment and personalized treatment.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Wow, that's that's crazy. I mean, that you had to go through all of that, but I I wouldn't trade it for the world because what was born from that is what you have created with motion and you're you're changing so many people's lives. You're you've certainly influenced and changed mine, and you're just getting started. So um never want to wish anything bad on anyone, but sometimes through our struggles we can we can find the light, right? Yes. So Josh, you know, what is the what is motion's philosophy and vision overall? What is what are you what are you all about?

SPEAKER_01 5:22

So motion is really not about not just about the physical healing, but what I truly believe is that the philosophy of the motion is that really create an integration, a total connection between mind, body, and spirit. So many people or so many clinics, doctors, practitioners talk about their physical well-being, mindful well-being, but not many people really talk about the spiritual well-being. Spiritual well-being is really not about the religion, it's really about what you believe. What you believe sets your mind and that manifests physically. One of the biggest problems that I see that everyone is facing is that uh like normalization of pain or anxiety, depression. It became so normal, and people think it's normal to live with the pain or anxiety or depression. But that belief system sets up their mind that it resists their body to change. So, what we really trying to do is uh providing a real hope and changing their belief system by letting them experience what the true healthcare feels like, and then place where they can be truly heard so that uh we can change their mind or belief system so that their mind changes and then physically they can experience like true recovery or they're feeling.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

So can you give an example, maybe like, you know, obviously for HIPAA purposes, you don't need to divulge or disclose a name, but do you have have you had that full experience with someone where they came in in either pain or depressed, and now after X amount of days or weeks or months or years of treatment from you, um have transformed their life. So they've essentially changed their spirituality, their belief system um by way of you working through their body.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Oh yes. Uh there are many different like uh examples I can share, but uh one of uh like a memorable person, and I can talk about his name because we he actually shared his testimony on the on the video. So his name is John Barbitos, very famous uh fashion designer. Uh a couple years ago, like he lived with the chronic back pain for a long uh like long time and got uh like finally got a back surgery, but after the back surgery, he developed this uh incurable disease from the current medical perspective. It's called arachnitis. And he took top doctors, and so many people just told him, You just have to live with this pain or learn how to manage this pain. And he came and we talked for about uh like an hour, hour and a half to really understand where this belief system is coming from. And one thing I asked him, do you believe in miracle? And he said, uh, I do. And so I died. So uh from that uh from that point on, like two, three months, we started to work. And now after three months, his back pain or all the symptoms that he felt is gone. And now he became a chief design officer for Under Armour, and yet still no back pain, and he he started to play golf again, and yeah. Every doctor said that he will have to live with the pain, but when we really changed his belief system, his body responded.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Wow, wow, and and I know this, but um, or at least from what I see, you you treat a vast array of people from professional athletes to like CEOs, like John Barbados, and to just, you know, what uh uh I I know you treat some housekeepers like you treat a va a broad range of people, right? So your your gift is is is is transferable to everyone.

unknown 9:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

So because to me, like whether it's a CEO, founder, professional, MMA, psycho, basketball, baseball players, see, we are just human beings. Yeah, right? So meaning so many people are holding some sort of what trauma or something injuries, whether it's a physical, mental, or belief system. But if we don't untap or if we don't expose that and be able to help them like an encounter with their trauma and then overcome and then let the healing come, the body will always try to compensate. So what I always try to do is I try to find the like why they're here, and that's why like healthcare gotta be like client-centric. There's uh like a new terminology called um digital paradox. So digital paradox is a term that describes that as technology advanced, people become more lonely and actually looking for a more true human connection. So, what we're really trying to do is really try to create a real genuine human connection, not superficial. As a healthcare medical practitioner, once you really build that uh trust and relationship and be able to openly talk about their trauma and their past, that's I truly believe that's when the real healing starts.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Well, speaking of the true healing, you you have a number of innovative services, a lot of them. Uh, can you elaborate on some of them?

SPEAKER_01 11:35

So uh so many uh right now that one of the key trends people describe is the modalities that we all have is like biohacking tools. I personally don't like the term biohacking, but the a lot of technology that we have is focusing on three things. First, improve the circulation and improve the nervous system activation, and then uh bring the uh sympathetic system into the parasympathetic, meaning people are living under high stress all the time, and our modalities are focused to bring them into the rest and digestive system so that their body can truly rest and be healed. So a lot of technology that we use is including PMS, red lights, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, cupping, like traditional, and sound therapy, uh, lymphatic drainage. Yeah, all these modalities really help like uh awaken our internal healing abilities.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

It's funny. One of my favorite modalities, obviously, is is the PMF that's administered through a uh a provider. Can you just talk a little bit about how the different how what's the difference between the PEMF that motion provides uh to your clients versus what other you know what other PMF systems are out there? How do you stand apart from others?

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Sure. So a PEMF is a very different so PMF is a general general term, but within the PMF, there are so many different like uh technology and focuses. A lot of PMF that people use in the wellness or like general market is uh they create the flux system. So the coil, magnetic coil, when the electricity is uh generated through the electric, uh the the copper coil, it creates an electromagnetic flux. And then flux go through your body and it helps recharge, move yourself so that uh the area that you have a dysfunction or tightness can be recharged and then relaxed. But one of specifically the the PMF that we uh use as the motion is uh based on the technology called the react, which means a radioelectric uh asymmetrical conveyor technology, meaning when instead of using the electromagnetic flux, we create a current system, so it's a more hand-guided focal PMF. So instead of the just uh general PMF through the whole body, we can target specific body parts that we want to recharge or they'll create the like a balance again, which makes a very different so that instead of um yeah, so it just makes a very precise, personalized PMF therapy based on people's needs.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Interesting. Now with this PMF, obviously, because I get these treatments um a few times a week, you know, you have the ability to recharge muscles, right? You're recharging muscles, you're recharging like is it is it like there you can you can recharge the liver, so you're not necessarily going into all organs, but you're able to recharge and and treat the liver and the the colon, things like that. So you know, I I guess the frequency, can you talk a little bit about the frequency and um in those specific like regions of the body and how you know that impacts those those those things? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

So our body made up of all different organs, but all these organs came from the one cell, right? So there's uh the phenomenon called the resonance phenomenon. When you play many metronomes at the same time, one that has the most powerful metronome, everything will start to follow that metronome, the beats. Likewise, when our body is out of the out of balance state, everything is working in the very discoherent um like um way. So all the organs, muscles, everything is not communicating to each other, which creates uh like tension, anxiety, pain, and whatnot. What we do is that we use a different frequency based on the organ and based on the targeted uh intention, which is alpha, beta, gamma, and mixture of alpha, beta, gamma frequency to target the like to uh based on the intention of our treatment. For instance, if we want people who are in the high stress state and the gut is very uh bloated or the gut is dysfunctional, we use the alpha frequency, which helps uh activate the vagus nerve so that the it the reconnect recreate the uh gut brain access so the body can feel rest and digest it and it restores uh uh gut health. And then people who have uh like euphedra and people are like high, like uh like elite athletes, professional athletes who overuse muscles all the time. We use the gamma or the mixture of the alpha, beta, gamma frequency together so that our intention is to recharge the cells back to the resting state so that muscles can rest, uh muscles can recover, but also it brings blood circulation to the area so that the body can recover so much faster.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Amazing. That's amazing. Feels like seems like that's these are these are modalities that everyone, every human being should be should be using, right? Should have access to.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Um Absolutely, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Yeah. And I I think I'll I'll note like I know there are other like wellness establishments in and around New York City, but a lot of them are very expensive, right? Like the still democratizing is just acceptable to most people. But I think one of the cool things about Motion is that the uh the services that you offer are very affordable and and you uh you you don't have this a la carte sort of menu. It's it's a full comprehensive offering for people when they come in. So if if I were to walk in the door today as a new client, I mean, exactly what what would I encounter uh from an assessment point of view of start to finish to getting treated.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Sure. Um so Phaedra, as you know, uh, and like you said, I don't believe all of a card system in healthcare because healthcare cannot be transactional.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

The way I believe is that healthcare provider must have a giver mindset instead of trying to take anything from the clients. That's our privilege to be able to serve other people. So that's why I made our business model to give everything, whatever is needed for that person. So when person, new person comes in for the assessment, what we do is that we go through uh the evaluation. We assess their posture, energy, stress, intracellular health, like phase angle, and their body fat composition. So about with the hours initial evaluation is about 90 minutes. And then first 45 minutes, I get to just talk to the person because a lot of the clues are in their stories. One of the problems about healthcare right now is that people don't have enough time to listen to other people's stories.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Yeah, so 45 minutes, I just listen to their stories. And then, based on their subjective, we go through all this assessment that we assess about 45, 45 biometric markers. Based on that, we categorize into the six motion subsystem, like muscle, organ, circulation, emotion, articular joint, and nervous system. We create a personalized treatment program to see where the imbalance is coming from. Those are the sixth subsystems, and then uh we do a one-on-one with the provider, uh, a one-on-one for uh with the client, 45 minutes, and then rest. They go through all so many different we call optimization protocols to improve whether it's the gut health, brain health, circulation health, energy health. So, like, you know, what makes emotion very different than any other healthcare clinic from my perspective is that you know, time is not our like people, as long as our clients have time, we have all unrestricted access. So, meaning people can stay as long as they want and get. receive all the treatments without paying anything extra.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Wow. That's like a buffet. Exactly. Yes, exactly. Motion the buffet. I like it. I like it. Uh all you can eat. It's it's great. I I I can't I can't sing your praises enough. You know, Josh, motion is is really making a cultural impact. You're not just a wellness uh health clinic. You're a part of a a bigger movement to build trust and empathy in healthcare. Tell us why is it why is that necessary and how does that help?

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Oh that's uh that's a very good question. So I truly believe to create such a like a healing environment or to provide the healing experience to our clients it has to come from uh like within our team first building a culture culture of uh safety so many healthcare not just a healthcare so many people are living on the high tension whether it's a home or work whether it's a politics relationship so many employees they quit not they're not quitting their job they're quitting their boss what I really wanted to create is that the place where people can be like who they are regardless of gender identity whatever religion you know like we have no bias right and then we just want to create a culture of the protection and safety so that our team can stay as a one so that we can provide we're very mission purpose driven company so that our team from the part-time to full-time everyone knows our core values because we move we make good decisions based on our core values and one of our core values is being genuine right so creating this genuine culture and they protect each other then like this yeah this culture is really help us to serve our clients and that's what we and then once those clients feel this a circle of the safety and they are just a bring there more their friends and family and then we just became more than just healthcare we actually became a real community and we intentionally kept everything open safe so that people can just like interact with each other and share more than just the health related and we I intentionally try to connect people if I see there can be a potential synergy. And there were actually a lot of uh synergies happening right now. Yeah so uh motion again is really not just about the healthcare it's really about creating building a tribe that's what we're trying to build.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Well speaking of tribe how how large is your tribe like you have what you call you know you you have your providers and then you have your welltechs and then you have I know you got your your front desk crew um how how many people make this make up this this team called Motion sure um uh so uh currently we have about about little over 30 people but five years ago when I first started it was just uh me and another trainer and yeah within this uh five years yeah we grew up to right now our our current staff which is about 30 slightly over 30 people wow and I think you have a very interesting way of bringing in your providers your you know can if you're okay with talking a little bit about that because I think it's and it it's just such a sustainable model um I I think it's a wonderful way to bring people on and to uh you know saturate them with the the motion way so if you don't mind talking a little bit about that and how you go about selecting your providers.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Sure sure sure so in terms of uh uh the provider said uh becomes part of motion is that I intentionally hire from uh like new grads because uh over the years of experience I learned it's so harder to uh when I hire or work with the experienced TT it's so harder to unlearn their habits and re-learn the new stuff because our our approach is so unique uh very traditional auto-minded or very traditional healthcare minded people having a hard time to accept our approach so with this uh new grants uh provider they have a passion ambition and they really want to be eager to help people and their knowledge right now is like blanky so I can just soak them in with the motion way of treating and then because of they accept our knowledge so well within the sixth month of the so we are so also we not only we just hire people as our just a provider we invite them starting with a mentorship program.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

That way not only we're talking about uh like a medical or just uh healthcare stuff but we share life together like coaching mentoring other than just a healthcare related so that I can help them become a better person as well as a better leader in the future awesome awesome and you talked about this team of 30 and these folks but you I I felt like we're not just a New York based podcast we're you know we're worldwide so you have two locations can you share with us a little bit more about that you're you're in New York City across from Grand Central but you're also in LA right?

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Yes yep so we uh yes uh we uh last year we opened uh motion la location is at West Hollywood and we are planning to open our second location in New York uh in in Soho uh sometime later in this year awesome awesome more motion more access to motion for folks um excellent josh is there anything else you want to talk about today on the show before we sign off uh yeah I mean I mean if any healthcare provider who would listen to this is like I really want to encourage if you are continue to doing uh this uh holistic healthcare model or value driven I encourage you to continue to do that because already people uh from my own perspective people start to see the the trend has been changing from the fee for service model to value driven service so if we are true to what we do and really put people centric service then it may take some time but outcome results will come so please continue what you're doing as a holistic provider and we can change the healthcare system together.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

That's awesome that's awesome you're doing the work right you're not just talking the talk but you're walking the walk yeah that's great um you want anything to add or just wanted to throw that back to you well listen I'm I'm so grateful again to have discovered motion it's made an incredible difference in my life and it was something that I had no clue in terms of the the depth of the modalities and the the changes that you can make within the body and how just what inflammation can do to a person, right? But just how also you can you can eliminate those things right and change someone's physical, mental, emotional health um you know, just through what the you know through the the the array of things that you provide you know at your center. So I I'm so grateful for you and uh I want to thank you for being a guest today on the show. I certainly this is not the um last time we're gonna talk on this on this podcast. We're gonna definitely have you again um for some future shows because there's so much more that we can go into but I wish you in motion continued growth and success and um and progress. Thank you so much for uh having me again thank you thank you I'm Pedra tonight and this has been Sweet class if you enjoyed it please subscribe and let us know.