04 - The Gathering Women: Collective Healing, Ancient Wisdom and Modern Awakening

Birthing the Feminine, Trusting the Flow and Reclaiming Your Essence with Louise Harris

In this soulful and expansive episode, Danielle is joined by Louise Harris, founder of Mindful Wellbeing and contributor to The Gathering Women book series. Louise shares her journey from corporate life to soul-led healing work, weaving in astrology, nutrition, somatic practices and shamanic teachings. Together, they explore what it means to truly walk your talk as a healer, how shadow work unlocks new soul gifts, and why balancing the masculine and feminine is more crucial than ever in this 5D energetic shift.

They also dive into the power of sister circles, creating space for evolution, honouring divine timing, and the real-life impact of trusting your blueprint. Louise opens up about her sacred work with women, the magic of birthing soul essence, and the importance of wellbeing as we hold higher frequencies in the body.

A rich, honest, and deeply activating conversation for anyone on a healing path, especially those feeling called to step into their next version.

Find Louise at themindfulbeing.com and on Instagram 

Transcript

So this morning we have got Louise Harris who is the founder of Mindful Wellbeing. So good morning Louise, thank you for joining me. Thank you for inviting me, it's a pleasure.

So I feel like I've got a million questions to ask you and I've just been kind of catching up and keeping up with everything that you've been doing. So I know that obviously you, your background is yoga and things like that and I know that you've got the book, The Gathering Women book, which seems amazing and have you brought another kind of version out or like a second edition? Yeah there's another version, a new edition which was a collaboration with 40 women, all unique medicine women who, across the globe, and it's another book edited by and published by Lynette Allen. And this one, so the last one was all about women's stories, so those lovely books that you can just open on a chapter and get a real glimmer into a woman's life story and it always, it's always a mirror back to something in your life. 

So that was a real gift. And then this one was all of us sharing our experiences of how we came to hold space for women, you know, what planted that seed and the magic of holding space for women. And now it's a huge book, it's got 360 pages and at the back there's a big resource section, so where we've all shared rituals, practices that people could do on their own, if people are holding their own circles, they can dip into little opening prayers or cacao prayers and it's amazing. 

I mean I've not managed to read it all yet but I was holding space on Saturday and I was holding a circle called Wounded Healers and it's the second time I've done it but spirits spoke to me on the Thursday and said you're not going to do that the same as what you've done it before, like you're going to literally step into your full feminine energy and just be a channel on the day. So all my structure, all my normal like little lists of things that we're going to do on the day, no that all had to step aside and my ego had to create some space for me to step out of my comfort zone and as I was preparing in the morning, just preparing the space and the energy, I just felt drawn to the book. So I opened it and I read my prayer because I've got an opening prayer that's in the back of the book and obviously when you channel something it was a channeled prayer, you're not really channeling it for yourself, you're channeling it for the reader. 

Two of the ladies had arrived early so I just went next door and I said would you mind helping me open the space and would one of you be happy to read this prayer which she did and that was just, it really landed because there's so much in that prayer around why I hold space for women and the magic and the transformation I've seen in these sister circles. So having her read it back to me was just a lovely way of opening the space and another lady then read one of the cacao prayers which was really beautiful as well and it just gave me a little bit of space to settle because I had to open up my channel and completely trust that everything that came through would be perfect for the nine women that were joining me and it was, it was incredible. So yes, that's a long way of saying we wrote a book and that's how it's been received. 

There's just, it's a bit like when you choose a card, you know, you open, you shuffle the cards and then one flies out. It's always the message you need, isn't it? And the same with the book, you just open it on a page and it's the perfect read for that. You know, when you started talking about the prayer, I was almost like imagining it and I could feel the energy from you and as you started to tell me, I was like, I started to get goose pimples on my arm. 

That never really happens and I'm like, there's something really special about that. It really is. I mean, even as I'm speaking about it now, like I can feel my heart just wobbling with, because I can't quite believe that it came through me. 

And when I had it read back, I was like, that is just so on it. Like, that is exactly why, you know, I do what I do and I'm so, so enriched by what I do and so blessed to be able to hold these containers. You know, so what you're feeling is what I'm feeling in my body, I'm sure.

It's just excitement and yeah, just. It's really strange, because before I've like spoken to you and obviously I know you through the astronomic work and things like that and when we've sat in circle, but I know everybody always puts on an appearance and we're like, oh, wear the masks and things like that. But I would have never said Louise is unconfident, not in a million years.

But when you said to me, oh, we're a little bit like cold in space, because I get like that as well. I'm like, usually I don't really less than plumb to mine. It's all comes through. 

I've got like a brief, but spirit always change it. Oh, and I get them wobbles and I'm like, right, if you want me to bring this and just purely trust what I'm channeling through and make it fit for the later something or whatever work I'm doing, like hold, but it sounds like they're held space for you just to be able just to settle as well. And yeah, I would never, ever have said you had any issues with confidence or anything like that. 

But I think it's evolving and it's keeping on even as healers and when we're holding space for everybody else, it's keeping on like evolving and becoming a different version and a different version. And it's OK to be that. I think that's really raw and authentic. 

100 percent. I mean, that is what I was embodying was what I was essentially transmitting as a teaching that day, which was we were working with like a somatic death and rebirth process. So letting stuff die fully in the body so that we can create space for the new versions of ourselves. 

And that's what I'm being asked to do all the time. And, you know, I would say my confidence that probably comes across is because I really trust in spirit and I trust myself. But the wobble or any sort of lack of confidence is the edge. 

It's the feeling the uncomfortable, but still doing it. And that just takes courage, really, to step into because we know we can still do it the old way, but we're being asked to step into the new paradigm and transmit something completely new according to these new frequencies that are coming through us. And, you know, the deeper codes that we're connecting with within us. 

And so the old ways are having to die. And that just feels scary. But when you come to your edge and then have the courage to do it, that's when you get more confident. 

You're like, oh, I know I can trust again. I know this will work out. I just need to get out of the way again and all will be well. 

And practice, you know, regularly doing that helps to sort of build the internal bandwidth to be able to keep doing that. And yeah, things are changing so quickly as well, you know, so what was relevant and what was live literally weeks ago can be outdated. That's how quick we're transforming.

I think it's like that saying, everything is on the other side of your comfort zone. And it's like you say, it's having the courage just to push yourself over it because there's always something else waiting and there's something new. But I think in terms of like the frequencies and the energies, everything's like massively shifting because we're going into 5D artwork.

And I've noticed my practices, it's changed so much. And I've had to be like, oh, well, I've been doing that for so long. And I've had to say, I'm not going to deliver this piece of work anymore and set back some commitments and just say to spirit, right, what am I doing? And it's literally been DNA coding and I've been doing different DNA coding and healings and things like that in psychic surgery. 

But it can be really tough. But like you say, you've got if you, it's like kind of like walking your talk as well. And if we encourage others to do it, we've got to be seen to doing it ourselves.

Yeah, the torchbearers, we go first and everybody else is like, oh, right. Yeah, it's just moving the needle all the time and giving other people permission to do the same. And it's scary, but it does feel really awesome as well when you step into that zone. 

I'm still buzzing. You know, I had a, I did a shamanic journey circle on Thursday last week and the heat that came through my body, you know, the Shakti, yeah, just phenomenal. And that continued right over through the weekend when I was holding circle and I just feel so, I've never felt more alive than I feel right now. 

Like life is so vibrant, even when shit's hitting the fan and I've had the hardest year of my life, you know, going through a separation and lots of, you know, two teenage children, lots of change. And yet I've never felt more alive, never felt more connected to myself. And yeah, the intimacy that I feel with myself and with life is, it's just filling me up every day. 

It's like, I don't really need anything else because that energy, you could just live off that. And that doesn't mean to say I don't get completely falling off the wagon and days where my energy drops down into my boots and, you know, life does feel like it's been more painful than I can, you know, than I'd choose for sure, you know, and I'm maybe struggling on a particular day, but it never lasts long. There's always, you know, things that would have hit me. 

And I'm noticing this with a lot of the students that I work with on a one-to-one, things that would have knocked us for six and maybe like taking us down for days, weeks or months, we're literally bouncing back from within minutes or hours, you know. So that's the rapidness of the energy and the way that we're shifting. So yeah.

I've noticed that particularly quite a lot, you know, in my own practice, like with myself and also when I'm working with people, do you think that's purely like just the energy that we're shifting to into this 5D energy? And like, because I don't know how you see it, but I've been shown like the DNA template and they were telling me to go into the DNA templates and upgrade them, but in a very shamanic psychic surgery, where were people? Very blended. But I was literally, the more that I've done it and I've allowed my guides to do it with me, the energy that I've had and the boost in energy from being really fatigued has been like, it's been crazy. And exactly the same as you're saying, yeah, you, you know, you have them days where it's tough, it's a bit like trudging through tricolour days, but you pick up quickly so you can like pick yourself up and say, right, come on, like off we're going, you don't stay there.

And I just wondered, you know, do you think it's like all that 5D and obviously that releasing is, it's kind of letting go of the old template, isn't it? Yeah, it's just constant shedding of old conditioning, old skins, old ways of being, all the things that are not really us having to go so that we can really connect with our true essence. And I think what, you know, we all have sort of different ways of describing it, but how I feel it's that the, the more that we shift, the more that we look at our own shadow and the more that we are aware of our shadow, which comes from our conditioning and our trauma and our ancestral patterns and what have you, then those patterns are not running us anymore. And when we're in that place of freedom, we anchor in more of our, our light codes, which is basically the essence, it's our authentic essence that starts to take up more space. 

So, and I've heard it described as like DNA activation. So I probably don't perceive it in the same way as you, but I have, it feels really right what you're describing, like the cells of the body are holding more of our essence in them, which would shift, you know, it's all that dormant DNA that they talk about, you know, it's not dormant, well, it is dormant, but it's, it's, it's full of our gifts and our potential that we've not yet accessed. And these high frequencies that are coming down are, that's why it's speeding up, because the capacity to anchor in that essence, that high consciousness and, and, and our unique soul essence is becoming more accessible and it's tiring for the body. 

So we're having these peaks and troughs in, in our energy as a consequence. So whenever I'm having a day where, you know, my energy's down in my boots, I just trust that there's upgrades taking place. And I think, yeah, and then, you know, my energy bounces back up again. 

So, and I'm seeing that so much, there's a lot of physical symptoms for people, a lot of purging. And yeah, I think, I think we don't really understand, we try to find language to describe what's going on, but it's, because it's so new, it's hard. It's one of the hardest things I find is to translate what I'm channeling. 

Probably the same for you. It's like, how do I put words to this that's coming through? And sometimes I actually find that I channel light language or just sounds come out of my mouth, which feels like a channeling of the energy. And it makes no sense to the human mind because it's, it's, it's something else. 

It's something unknown. And again, that's really hard to, to trust at first. It's like, what the heck is that? But it, it has a frequency that people receive. 

And they're, they, again, they don't understand it with the mind, but they, they receive a healing or an activation or, you know, the energy shifts in their body. So they then have to trust that as well in order to receive that fully. And I think we're just in such a flux, such a time of change. 

A lot of people I know that have been doing shadow work and, you know, that introspective lens are really accessing some of these codes that you speak of, this DNA coding. So these gifts are switching on and they're like, what's this? You know, it's just stuff that we've, it's just ancient wisdom that's been remembered, but it's so alien to what our conditioned ways of being have any concept of. So I think now is a time where we really need to be so, give ourselves so much space and use all, you know, that's why wellbeing is such a big ticket thing for me, you know, being in the body, moving the body, being out in nature, breathing well, eating well, all of those things become even more important because this, because we need that balance within the vessel, the physical vessel in order for these changes to come through us gracefully. 

If we've got a lot of blocks, if we've got a lot of toxicity, we're going to have a hard time. It's going to be more challenging anchoring in a lot of these frequencies. So that seems to be an area that I'm sort of guided to approach people in. 

Plus it's something I'm quite fascinated about is wellbeing and health. So all those practices become even more important right now. It's strange actually, because as you were talking, I was like, ah, I was making like little dots in my head. 

I actually, so a few years, not a few years ago, I'm sorry, a few months ago, Spirit had said to me like, you're going to work really different in a couple of months, Danielle. And I was like, okay, you know, I didn't know what it was, I was really open. And then I was told get into balance. 

Like the big thing is that we had a siren coming up and we were like, right, balance, balance. And I was like, okay, there were things that I would be able to put into my body. I don't massively eat unhealthy or anything like that, but maybe a little bit of alcohol or just different types of things, my body would not tolerate to the point it made me really ill, like mega ill. 

I know like that Spirit telling you and I'm like, yeah, it's my body changing. And then as we were doing more and more practices over the past couple of months, obviously my work's changed, like you say, things come through, it's really difficult to explain it and I just see it as like coding because it took me into the DNA pattern. And even like the energies that are working with me, so different, even though I do the psychic surgery or I do shamanic healings actually in it, I'm like, it's just been crazy. 

And people have been like, oh my God, that was different. Or I felt like this and this and I'm like, I'm glad that you're just open for me to say right, can my guide just step forward and do this and this. But it's like we've all been prepared for this work and I think especially those of us who've been doing so much shadow work over the past few years, it's like, I think the clearer the vessel, especially like on a psychological level, on a physical level, all those kinds of things, I think it's creating the space for the new to come in and for these activations to upgrade. 

And it's strange because actually I trained as a nutritionist back in 2012, so a psychotherapist, but there was a year when I had brain surgery, so like, right, I need to get my brain working, my mouth work. And I trained as a nutritionist, did different things and looked at the body in a deeper, in deeper depth really, where I would like talk to the cells in my body to be like, come on, respond, do this, do that. And I really looked at nutrition. 

And it's strange because I don't bring nutrition into my practice at all. And it's naturally evolved where I've created more space over the past month, month or two actually. And I've organically had people step towards me, again, it's been women, which were the primary focus of my work from years ago. 

And it's kind of been joining back, also blending the nutrition. And I know that you do that. I know that you're very big on nutrition things.

I really am brought into the practice and what I'm doing with my spiritual practices. But it's funny how all the tools that we've got are now slotted into a place. And like you say, the new gifts are unveiling. 

Absolutely. But those sensitivities in the body, I'm just seeing left, right and centre at the minute, people that could drink alcohol, you know, drink several coffees a day. You know, we're addicted to chocolate. 

The body just can't process that anymore. I can't even have like, I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, I know, I'd enjoy like not loads to drink, but maybe two glasses of wine. 

And I think I had two glasses of wine and it made me honestly so ill and made me feel very intoxicated. There were no reason for it, no medication changes or tiredness or anything like that. And I'm like, this is physically in my system. 

So well, and spirit being saying to me, like, stop, stop putting things in Danielle for a long time. But I'm like, what am I doing? And actually, my body is so sensitive, it can't handle it. So I've actually stopped completely. 

Yeah, and I think these things just naturally fall away. I mean, it's good to offer people some coaching around it, if they're not understanding what's going on. But all the things that fell away for me just fell away organically. 

You know, I mean, I don't think I've drank any alcohol for about nearly four years, just because I actually couldn't. Same with coffee and refined sugar. So those things just naturally fell away.

And then, you know, obviously, you think, well, that's, you know, because people say, how did you do that? I'm like, don't praise me, it just happens. If your body won't tolerate it, you don't have a choice. Yeah. 

But if people are struggling, you know, with toxicity, and they're wanting to, then it's good to have, you know, that, that knowledge around nutrition, to support people if they need that. Because some people, you know, they haven't got time to be reading the literature, and they don't have necessarily the time to listen to the things and be tapped into the information that we are. So that bringing, weaving that into your coaching is really positive. 

I think it's really necessary right now. So, you know, in terms of the book, I'm going to just bring you back to it, The Gathering Women, how did that evolve? How did you all of a sudden go, right, actually, I'm going to write a book, I'm going to contribute to this book, and it's going to be global. Well, it's not my brainchild, it's Lynette Allens. 

So she's a medicine woman, and she lives in Bali, and she's been working with women. She just, she's an author, I mean, she's been writing books for years, and has written many amazing books. And I connected with her through one of her online sister circles. 

And she invited me to write a chapter of that first book that we did together. And then she again invited me to participate in the next one. So it was never my baby, I just had to focus on my chapter. 

So it was quite easy, really. I think it was just, it was a gift to be part of that experience of connecting with all those other women with all the unique flavours. I mean, writing a book is something that I feel is in me at some point. 

But I guess, with these things, the timing's got to be right. Yeah, completely. I love writing, you know, I absolutely love writing. 

And it was, you know, as a child, I always thought I'd be a writer, you know, when you're, like, before seven, and you know what your gifts are. And then you go into the school system, and they say, Oh, no, well, you're not good at spelling, or, you know, you really crap with numbers. And then you sort of talk yourself out of all these little dreams and aspirations that you have for yourself. 

And you fall foul of that conditioning. And then life gifts you opportunities like that. And you're like, Oh, I love writing. 

Like, I just absolutely love words and getting a message across. And so yeah, it was a gift that I'll feel very blessed to be part of that. Did you feel it was quite like divinely orchestrated by Spirit in the Universe, like to bring to you? Everything is. 

I can't think of anything that's happening in my life at the moment, or any of the lives that I'm intertwined with, where it's not completely divinely orchestrated. I think, when we believe that we are in control of any of it is where it gets a bit sticky. Yeah, even the even the tough stuff, even the hard lessons, and the challenging, painful experiences are all gifts, really. 

Teaching us where we're here to have that soul expansion. It just teaches you and shows you so much. And I think, I don't know about you, but I think when you go through them painful lessons, all the tough stuff, sometimes it does, it is like an unlayering of yourself. 

But I think you get to see yourself differently, like you get another version of yourself you didn't even know existed. And I think especially doing that work, that medicine work, I think you become like, it empowers you so much, even if it's tough in it, in the sticky bit. I think once you're out of it, it's like, I almost feel like your wounds become your superpower, because they strengthen you.

100%. Yeah. 100%. 

I've got really into recently, because I'm obsessed with astrology. I studied Vedic astrology, Jyotish, for about six years. And it didn't serve me in the end. 

I mean, I did it, but I just got too far down the rabbit hole with it. And then I kind of thought, right, pull back, consuming all your time. And then the last, probably the last four years, I've just become, I just can't believe how incredible astrology is, is this map of your life. 

And I just keep, again, divinely orchestrated, just unlayering this map, and finding out, and the gene keys is the other thing that I find fascinating. And it's basically the cosmic map of our lives. And so I'm very fascinated by the nodal points of the moon, south and north node. 

And my north nodes, you know, I'm only feeling like I'm stepping into that now. And the reason that we only really step into our north node, later in life, it's usually after the age of 36. But for some of us, it's a lot later is because it feels like the most uncomfortable thing for us to do.

And it's because it's almost like the soul sets this map out for you. And it makes the thing that's going to light you up the most, the thing that's going to quench your thirst, and make you feel deeply satisfied is going to be the hardest thing for you to do. And so, and I'm starting to read a lot of my students charts now, and I can see it for them as well. 

And when I say things like this, this is the blueprint that you're carrying, these are your codes, you're going to be asked to step into in this lifetime, you can see them wincing. Oh, I'm so scared of doing that. And the things that I'm starting to do now and experience and live into are so out of my comfort zone. 

But at the same time, are lighting me up, you know, at the same time, like scary. Yeah, it's like that existential kink, isn't it? Like, I'm so scared, but oh, my God, this is like an orgasmic experience at the same time. So yeah, I mean, and again, that's all sort of divinely prompted. 

I just feel like, you know, we just get the lessons just at the right time. I just, if we just come to such a place of surrender and trust in, just let go, get out of the way and trust, you know, it doesn't mean to say that we're not here to take action. Because, you know, we're, we're an equal balance, aren't we have masculine and feminine energy. 

And so that masculine energy is about forward movement, taking action, getting stuff done, being in the doing mode. And one of the ways in which I seem to attract women that have been quite schooled in that masculine energy, because that's what I was my generation. So we've got very potent masculine energy that kind of overshadows some of the feminine.

And so when we bring, and then what can happen is when somebody goes on a spiritual journey, and this is male and female is they can swing the pendulum and go so far in the direction of feminine that they can't get anything done. And I found this sort of path myself that I've been on, has been bringing these two into harmony and into a union, a balanced union of masculine and feminine energy. So there's that trust and surrender and flow. 

And that consciousness coming down that gives you the divine pulse, so you know when to take action. And it's a practice, you know, that is actually a practice because we're having to rewire our circuitry, our neural circuitry and our energetic circuitry for that inner union. And when we do, it leads to what we've just been speaking about, which is the energy that channels in our unique blueprints and allows us to express it in the world.

So when you were talking and you were talking about the blueprints and the ages, and usually it's 36 onwards, and he said, I told you earlier that obviously I've seen spirits since I was a child, I knew that I could do it, went to a spiritualist church, my grandma was a medium, her mum was, and things like that, so we're really normal, but I was like, I'm never going to be a medium. I never wanted to do it as an actual job. But I actually switched to it when my dad passed at 36, and I started sitting in circle. 

I fine-tuned at 37. However, I'm now 44 in June, and it's now only really, whereas I thought, oh, I'm doing it, I want to actually get into grips with accepting of probably what my blueprint were. It's only recently, and it's been literally the past couple of months where I've been like, get into balance, don't overdo, sit in your feminine, but actually exactly that. 

When you need to take action, move your ass down here, make plans, get things going, but don't push, just sit and wait for everything to come to you in flow. The universe will deliver, and you'll be shown the right timings, to the point of literally, I've got things booked in my diary this month for the coaching sessions, certain things I'm doing, but I've got massive gaps, and I feel like I've had to create massive gaps just to say, let them organically be filled, and just this gets, you know, to do exactly what you're saying. And I've been literally just checking in and being like, right, what am I channeling, what do I need to do? And with the kind of even light language stuff, I started to speak different languages about 18 months ago, when I was meditating, and I thought, I don't actually know what this means, how am I going to communicate this through? I don't really want to do light language, and how can it come through properly? So I wrote it down anyway with Roman, and it predicted things and gave me things when I had to translate it. 

And then I've actually just only two weeks ago sat and done transmedium shape training with a lady called Margaret DePetro. She teaches worldwide, she's honestly amazing, she's fascinating, she lives in Ripon, and she used to teach at Arthur Findlay College, and she's really lovely and down to earth, but she's very well travelled, and she's got amazing experiences. And I was nervous, I was like, I don't really want to do this, I don't want to sit and do that. 

And she booked me in, and I was like, how come she's booked me in? And then she was like, I thought you'd asked, and I was like, no, somebody else asked. And I'm not joking yet, I was going through so many excuses in my head, thinking, I can't work with this, and I can't work, and I'm like, what are you doing, Danielle? Just, you know, get your stuff together, and bloody go to training. But honestly, I was mega scared, and it wasn't until I sat in it, she was like, you're going into all the consciousness anyway, were you journeying with this? And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, and she's like, you know, and so it's not anything scary.

And then I think last week, because you have to keep on doing it, you've got to keep sitting in trance. Weirdly, my one of my paramours, my bear came through, and I'm like, oh, I've got bear hands, I'm trance, it was just honestly crazy. But that, even thinking about mediumship back then were a big thing to say, I'm going to put myself out there and sit and give people messages apart from, you know, family and friends. 

But then to do the trance mediumship, I'm like, God, I'm being pushed, and it's a bit scary. And the work that I'm doing with women, it's been a long time ago, I was shown female victims were missing. And I'd work a little bit that way until Theo came along and then took it back and brought it back. 

And then I'm thinking, I'm going to be pushed to work like that, I'm dead scared. So it's really strange. What you're saying about all the astrological happenings, and there's blueprint, and I follow it, but I'm not an astrologer by any means like you are. 

But it's so fascinating, isn't it? Yeah, well, I'm not an astrologer, I'm just absolutely obsessed with studying it. So now I can look at someone's chart and read it because just from my own obsession, I mean, I've not got a qualification or anything. But I think that again, that's sort of old school, isn't it? Like we have to have a qualification for everything. 

When ultimately, we're just tapping into things that we've known for lifetimes. And one of the things that's coming through for me is that I can access somebody's gifts very quickly, like I can feel somebody's blueprint. And it's the gift, but often what they're presenting to me in the shadow, that I can see the gift behind the shadow. 

And so it's almost like you're seeing someone's potential. And I did a shamanic journey where I was midwifing women, I was shown that, you know, there's almost like a midwifing process going on, as I'm saying that I can feel my womb contrast. Oh, wow. 

That's fascinating. Birthing women, as a midwife, I was birthing, I was a midwife, and then the ancestors were helping me to wash the baby. So I know I've got a lot of ancestral support in sort of supporting women. 

And I feel like that's them birthing the true essence, not birthing a child, it's birthing their unique essence into the world. And that what you were speaking to, when, because what I was thinking is, you know, to do that, it requires a lot of space and patience with yourself. And I think that's something that we're hardwired not to give ourselves.

And the more I see women give themselves space, and patience and time for something to come through them. And this is hard for me as well, because I'm so hardwired to be productive. I like to feel like I'm getting stuff done.

We're women though, don't we? Yeah, and I'm a multitasker. You know, and we are, we are. Because there's been some plates often, don't we? You know, like the house, the kids, the work, the managing appointments for everybody are doing this or doing that.

We're just naturally set in the world, aren't we? The women I see who are absolutely thriving right now are the ones that give themselves some space. And they do it better than I do. So I've taken a lot of the leaf out of their book as well.

And, you know, that requires a nervous system that feels comfortable with not doing. It requires a nervous system that's comfortable with not earning some money for a period of time whilst you're waiting for something new to evolve. So you might have to.

I mean, I find it's not that you cancel clients because you usually don't need to. They just stop coming for a period of time and you just have these gaps in your diary. And you're like, oh, wow. 

Can I see that as a gift? Because that's time for me to tap into more of me. Or am I going to get panicky about that and think, oh, there's no money coming in? That's something that we've got to get used to. Trusting that you'll always, all our needs are met.

All our needs are always going to be met when we're in service. But that's again, it's a hard thing to trust. It's really difficult, isn't it? Because your human brain will go, well, what about this bill? What about shopping? And what about these commitments? But I think the one thing that has helped me switch that is kind of leaving some practices.

So I used to think, right, I need to get to the gym. Come on, Danielle, you're in menopause and your body's struggling and get to the gym. And now, leaving today, I plan to do it.

And I thought, you know what, actually, it's not fitting. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do something different.

But the thing that's helped me to kind of release all control, especially over bringing in money and homework and things, I've gone back to mantras. And for me, that and affirmations, it was so powerful. And I would look, even when Theo were quite young baby, I'd do it driving in my car.

I wanted it to fit and I would make sure, as uncomfortable as it felt, because I felt like I was telling myself an untruth that I didn't believe, I would make myself look in my rear view mirror and say it as I was driving, obviously safely. But my affirmations and saying to spirit, actually, I'm going to co-create with you. I trust that everything that you bring and I trust the universe.

However, these are my terms and I've never, ever done that. And it was somebody who pointed out to me, like, where's your contract to work with spirit? And I'm like, I don't have a contract. She said, well, what are you going to do? And she was like, ask, what do you, how do you want to work? And what is your contract? You know, what are you prepared to do? And what are you prepared to do? And I thought, actually, I think I say it, but I need like an actual contract.

So I said to my guides, if you want me to do this, you know, I need you to make sure that actually you're bringing enough in to pay my bills. I'm not asking for excess amounts. I am in service.

And literally just, you know, and I trust you. And then it was so funny because I think somebody paid me as soon as I said it. I think they were like making a bit of a joke out of it for the first two days.

Somebody left me a tip of like, I think it was a pound and it never happens. Like, I always leave a pound tip. Usually it might be like five or ten pounds.

And I'm like, no, no, no, I don't need anything extra. Then the next day, somebody said, oh, I've paid for the reading online and it's taken an extra 99 pence off me just from it daft. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, are you actually taking the piss for it? And literally from then, everybody's organically come towards me.

I've not had to advertise. I've had more women buying just coaching sessions. And I'm like, literally, when you get in flow and you trust, it comes, doesn't it? But it's having, it's not looking at your bank account going, oh, I know that the client's going to come, but what have I got in and what bills have I got going out? And we've got these commitments.

And it's just pure trust, isn't it? And that comes with time. And I mean, it's not that long ago I had a corporate career. You know, I was in a corporate job for 20 years.

Well, at least because I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. So I started out as a mental health nurse after I left university.

And I didn't last very long. I was seduced into the corporate world, which felt a lot more abundant. And I've got a very strong, abundant, you know, my south node is in Taurus and I've got Jupiter there.

So I've got the capacity, because I've done it lifetime after lifetime, to create a lot of material comfort. And it feels comfortable and safe. So giving up my corporate job, which was a highly paid job, was almost impossible for me to do.

I just had all the stories of why I shouldn't do that. And my job wasn't even that hard. You know, I worked with lovely people.

And so making that transition was the first, you know, we talk about north nodes at 36. I had a cancer diagnosis at 37. That was the universe giving me a big slap into, are you going to start listening? And then the first time I actually stepped forward and trusted was that, you know, the day I decided to leave corporate and like, let go of those golden handcuffs.

And each time, you know, and then there's been fluctuations, because at that point I had yoga students and people, you know, had started doing some coaching with me, but it was nothing really. And because we're evolving, we're constantly going to be going through not only our own death and rebirth cycles, but the death of the old business, the death of the old way of doing it. Yeah.

An old amount of money that felt safe, and then going into a different, you know, can we be okay and comfortable with this? And peaks and troughs, you know, and so I feel like those are the tests that we get to see how committed we are to continue on that path of being in service. And it's hard and it's also, you know, one of the things that I approach a lot of my ladies on, particularly ladies is valuing their energy exchanges. You know, I see a lot of people just giving stuff away for free because, you know, they're trying to be in service, but they're offering their energy out for nothing.

And at the end of the day, everything is currency, you know, whether it be our energy or money. So we need an exchange. And it's not in service to anyone to give it to them for free.

You know, even if they're financially struggling, they've always got something that they can offer in return, whether that be holding a bit of space for you, letting them share in a good book that they've just read, you know, a bar of their favourite chocolate, whatever it is. It ruins that, there's always something in there. I think it's important for the other person to value what you're giving.

You know, and I even often with other practitioners, I'm like, I have people coming up, they're like, actually, I really need this, you know, and I'm like, okay, if you can't pay, let's do an energy exchange. Because for me, it keeps the balance. And if I want to give something, which I do give, I'll happily, you know, two or three times a year, do something for charity, for a cause that's close to my heart or whatever.

And I will say, you know, out of that, I will donate this. And so, and actually, I feel like that keeps the balance. You know, I've been really lucky where I've done things and I've not done it so that people say, oh, she's done that for free, or it brings people in, but it naturally does.

So it always ends up just a constant flow, anyway, and balance. And paying attention to those synchronicities that you were just describing, where you got the 99 pence and the pound. Spirit's always slightly having a little joke with us and testing us to just be.

And I've had so many carrots dangled, like, oh, you could come and work here and we'll pay you all this money and, you know, but I'd have to compromise so much within the way I wish to work, you know, because I want to work in a place where I permanently evolve. And that requires me to be doing it on my own. So I can just have that freedom and flexibility to keep evolving.

Whereas if I went to work for a specific organisation who wanted me to follow a particular protocol, it might look very financially attractive. And I've had loads of these carrots dangled. And every time I say no and step forward into my own trust, it's always rewarded.

It is, isn't it? I think, you know, and obviously, I don't know if you know that. I think it was like just beginning of January. I joined a business with another lady because I was like, you know, work's really busy, I can't balance and spin all these plates and things.

And it looked more financially rewarding as well, because I was like, we can collaborate, you know, financially, we can both input and get the output and things. But innately, I knew I was like, this is not the right thing. And my guides have been telling me and as soon as I step back and said, I need to get my balance and actually I need to just not do this, not do this, not do this.

Everything just started to flow much, you know, and I've been attracting much different things in. But actually, I love that I've got the balance of my day and like I'm not overly doing. So it's really important sometimes to kind of look and reflect on that.

I think we've got to keep reflecting on what am I doing? Where am I at? Is it the right thing? Constantly, like it's almost like a daily practice. It's like, where are you placing your energy? And when you're working with energy and channeling energy, if you're not really discerning about your own channel and your own frequency, well, we open ourselves up to things that might not be aligned. But also we were potentially missing things that are really important.

And that's why I think we need so much space. I mean, when clients sort of stop working with me because they've moved house or something, I'm like, yeah, another free slot in the week. And it's not that I don't love what I do because I absolutely do.

And I love it when someone new comes in because I'm like, oh, brilliant, you know, there's a divine. Why are you coming? Why, you know, what contract have we got together? But I love having space. Yeah, I do.

I love, I think it gives you the sense of freedom as well, doesn't it? And it gives you that opportunity and permission to be like, well, you know, I've not got anything planned. And if I want to look at something or if I want to just sit, I like that. I like that flexibility in my day because it helps me to check in and be accountable to myself as well.

Yeah, 100%. So I know that we've kind of like probably gone on a long time. It has been fascinating to see so much to ask you.

One of the last things I wanted to ask you is, in terms of your sole purpose, and I know that you will obviously come from this perspective and a shamanic perspective and obviously from your blueprint, what would you, so what I wanted to ask is, where are you at in your journey? Do you think that it's going to change? Have you got insights that's changing next or what's coming next? Also, what has been your most magical medicine that you've been given, not what you've given anybody else? Lots of good questions. I feel like I'm in a death cycle at the moment, just allowing a lot of old stuff to die. And I kind of get a sense of what is birthing and it's definitely around feminine embodiment.

But obviously we all carry something really, really unique and I don't really know if that is landed in my cells yet. So it's not ready to transmit. It's kind of, because I think there's still a lot of death that needs to happen, like fully somatically dying to a lot of old things.

And I'm going through a lot of physical change, moving house and there's all practical things. So I don't know what the timelines are. I don't feel like I'm in control of it.

I just need to create the space for it. But it's definitely around the feminine. And as I said, that shamanic journey was quite symbolic.

I've had some shamanic journeys done for me and had a few that I've had journeyed for myself. So I had a shamanic practitioner, she was a shaman actually, from a family of shamans. And she had the symbology of the sunflower and she said, every woman that you work with are like these little seeds within the sunflower and they're going to go out.

And she saw these seeds like flying out into the air and she said, that's the ripple effect that the people you work with will have in the world. And that's what I'm seeing. Like a lot of the women I work with are really, I've just posted on it this morning, really thriving, like completely stepping into their dharma in a creative, magical, and embodied way.

Which is what I'm doing all the time. But there's something that's so exciting about that, I can't even bring words to it. It's just that- You know what's really funny? One of my questions I've got wrote down is, because obviously it was a new moon last night and I was like, I don't know why, but I've got things that I've drawn on the new moon.

And one of the things that I was going to say to you is, what seeds are you planting, Louise? What, you know, like, kind of like, did she do something on the new moon? And then when you said that, I was like, oh my God, it's like, you know, in spirit, like making your brain just go crazy. Because I'm like, there it is. I know it's too related to the feminine, because as I speak about it, like in my body right now, I can feel this activation in my womb.

It's going right down into my yoni, like it's such a, it's like a very orgasmic feeling, not in a sexual way. It's like, you know, when you have that rush of shakti, life force, it's like rippling through your body. It's not that, it's not rushing through my body.

It's just a deep pulse. I just know there's something there and it's obviously not ready to come through quite yet. And I'm okay with that, because I'm really happy with just allowing myself to keep pushing beyond my comfort zone at the moment.

That feels like enough. And then also resting into some of what I feel very comfortable in as well. You know, I've got a nice balance of both, because otherwise, you know, my nervous system, when you're constantly at the edge, your nervous system has to kind of catch up with that.

And expand to hold safety around that. So I feel like I've just got enough going on at the minute. But the more space I give, I know that that will start to birth through me.

I mean, in terms of medicine that I've received, I mean, I have been so blessed to just, at the right time, receive all the right teachers. I mean, I just know that everything's been divinely planted right in front of me, divinely orchestrated. And actually, you know, as well as my teachers, obviously, we've got Rick and Sheila, you know, so authentic.

I mean, you couldn't meet a more authentic couple to teach you the ancient wisdom of shamanism. I've had some incredible feminine embodiment teachers, some masculine teachers as well. I've just had so much, a wealth of, and some of them have been people that have paid, like practitioners, and some have been people that have just appeared in my life at the right time with the right medicine.

There was something else I was going to say, then it was on the tip of my tongue. Obviously not meant to say it, but I was going to say that my students are my teachers. Like literally the ones I work with all the time are constantly mirroring things back to me about myself and inspiring me as well.

So, you know, and sitting in circle with women, they become your teachers. Yeah, I completely agree. I think every time I do a circle, I'm like, I feel so blessed, but also so lucky really, because I'm like, I'm here as your teacher, but actually you're teaching me so much.

And like you say, it just, everything is mirrored back to you. And it's almost like something reflected back. And it's an invitation to actually look at a different aspect or look at something different or revisit something again in a different way.

But I think even just seeing, like you say, the changes in women that you make, I think because you see them make the changes, that almost like empowers me a little bit. And I'm like, oh my God, that's amazing. But sometimes it gives me a kick up the ass.

I'm like, come on, like they're doing it. They're taking it on board and you've got all these skills, give them to yourself. But again, it's creating that space, isn't it? For sure, for sure.

Well, it's been absolutely amazing. Louise, thank you so much for spending so much time with me. I probably could ask you a million more things.

So I might ask you to come back on if you would like to. I'd love to. It's been, when you're talking about something you love with a like-minded soul, it's just easy and effortless.

And so enjoyable. Yeah, well, lovely. Thank you so much.

And thank you for the insight for everything that you're doing. If anybody's listening to this and they're like, actually, I'd love to come into one of Louise's circles or do the coaching. How would they reach you? So I'm on Instagram, which is the mindful being underscore coaching and yoga.

So I post a lot on there. But in terms of all my offerings, the best way to keep up to date with that would be on my newsletter, because I just post everything every couple of weeks about what's coming up. And so my website is themindfulbeing.com. And you'll see some of the offerings on there that I do, like I do a deep introspective journey through the autumn that starts in September and goes right through to February.

And it's called Embrace Your True Essence. It starts with a four-week course. Then there's a week break.

Then there's an eight-week course. And then there's a break. And then there's a six-week course.

And they all build on each other. So you'll see that that's all online through the winter. So I like to do that work through the autumn, you know, in the feminine half of the year.

And then, but then I do pop up things that are just divinely inspired. And I work from home. And I also work in collaboration with a venue in Home Firth, which is where I'm based.

It's called the Goddess and the Guru. It's a little shop, little woo-woo shop in Home Firth. And then upstairs is a lovely space, lovely sacred space, which has got lovely energy.

I normally do retreats at home over the summer, but I'm moving house this year. So that's not going to happen. But I will be coming back to doing more retreats in, you know, more outdoor work.

Yeah, we can get a sense of what's happening. Yeah, so that would be the best way. I've got a Facebook community group as well.

Thank you. So I'm glad, like, we've kind of covered loads of different topics for everybody to have, you know, it's good. I think it's giving everybody, like, different perspectives on things in air, which is amazing.

But yeah, thank you so much for sharing your time with me this morning. I know that you're busy and there's, like, loads going on, so I appreciate it. I'll edit this bit off at the end, don't worry, so we don't have to just end the call.

But I'll let you get sorted. I know that you've probably got a busy day. No, I'm going to walk the dog now.

So no, I've got a nice, free day. This is my way of being. I don't cram people in.

Yeah, I haven't got, well, I haven't got anybody else booked in, apart from I've got to do data dates and things like that. I thought I might just record a little quick thing and then it's done and that's ready for her. But I've got loads of stuff to do, but in my to-do diary dates and times, if that makes sense.

I'm just like, what am I going to do? And I might sit and I might have a little walk in between as well. Yeah, I just, the day just goes, doesn't it? Time's going quick, like, really, really quick in it at the minute as well. Really quick.

I'm going, on Thursday, I'm going to, well, early Friday morning, I'm flying out to see my mum. She lives in Spain. So I'm not going to see her until the following Tuesday.

She's not been very well. She's had a spinal surgery. So I've got to keep her company because she can't do a lot at the moment.

And then when I get back, I'm sort of not actively filling my diary too much because I'm literally moving house three weeks after that. Oh, yeah, it's stressful enough, isn't it? I think getting everything started. A lot of packing stuff is just like, oh, you know, when you've lived so many years.

Yeah, it's choosing what to take and what it's like, what's junk and what don't I need or what can I part with. Yeah, I want to simplify, but then you're like, oh, I like that. Yeah, it's hard when the sentimental stuff, isn't it? But you can't take everything, can you? No.

So thank you so much. I've really enjoyed it. Oh, you're welcome.

I'm going to say to you before I let you go as well. I would love to get you to do my blueprint so you can do it from afar and just say to me, Danielle, it's this much if you wanted to do it and just send me through how it works. How do you mean? You know, when you do the astrology part? Oh, yes.

Yeah. Yeah, sure. Just send me date of birth, time of birth, place of birth, if you know.

And if you don't know your time, I mean, I don't know my time, but I had a Vedic astrology work. So she sort of predicted roughly what my time would be. I know the times and everything.

Just tell me how it goes and send me your details. Yeah. I mean, I don't do readings because it's funny because I've got on my list here, astrology coaching.

So what I reached out to my community who were like part of my Abide community and said, if you want, I'll do an astrology coaching session with you. And a few of them have, well, I imagine they'll all take me up on that offer because they're quite fascinated by it. But I've never really put myself out as somebody who reads astrology charts because again, it's this old paradigm.

I'm not qualified to do that. But anybody that I've ever been to for readings, coaching, I've never looked at what qualifications they've got. Well, the thing is, you don't really, do you? And I think if you know somebody's authentic and they do it, you're like, well, they do it.

And it's just, it is what it is. It's a soul gift. How can you? I mean, I can read your chart in a certain way, but you could see another astrologer and they'd add another layer and then there'd be another layer because every astrologer's got their own layer that they're putting on based on their ancient wisdom.

So I've just got to a point now where I can look at a chart and offer someone enough. I mean, you'd probably still want to go on and deep dive into it further with maybe a different astrologer or whatever. I just feel like I've got to that point where it's something I can offer out as an offering, but I'm just working with people that I know who are already working with me saying this is just an extra layer that I can weave in.

I was going to say, there's not many people who do it either, is there? Well, I don't do any good ones in the UK. Most of the astrologers I actually are interested in, they don't do personal readings anymore because they were inundated because there aren't, like you say, probably enough. There's not many.

I came across a lady in America and you'll know her, I can't remember her name. And what you can do is you can do her teachings. And I was like, actually, because when I looked at it, I thought you've got really good at maths and I'm really rubbish at maths.

I've got, it's like a maths dyslexia kind of thing where I've got two maths backwards and I'm like, so I'm like, oh, I don't really want to do the maths part. But it's just a lady. You don't have to, you don't have to do that.

I've got a friend, Mama, and she came to my circle at the weekend. She's really gifted at Vedic astrology and she can do the maths side. But because it's more predictive and dates and you're toing and froing with numbers, that does not appeal to me at all.

But just as we'd like, have our own flavour of healing or our own flavour of creativity, we all have our own flavour of astrology. So, I mean, I just, I had a lady with me on Friday morning and I just had this urge to grab my phone and put her date of birth in. So I could see where her positions are.

I've been working with this lady for five years and I knew her sun sign, et cetera, but I just had this itch. And when we looked at her chart, I was just like, oh my God, why have we never looked at this before? Like it just, we're obviously never meant to look at it before, but when we looked at it, it was like, that is everything that's unfolding. You know, she's like 51 now and everything's really taking off for her.

And maybe we weren't meant to know all this stuff before, but you can just see the map that's- It's crazy, isn't it? Do you do a neurology? No, no, but that's something- Yeah, I do, even though I don't like numbers, but I feel like I've naturally been drawn to it a while ago and I could do it and then not really done it and it's swung around again with the neurology. So now what you're saying was like the astrology part, I'll do a neurology. I'll be reading something.

I'm like, even if it's a mediumship reason, I'm like, oh, can I just get your numbers? And then it's weird because I'm like, oh, this year you're meant to be doing this or you're meant to be doing that and it all fits. And I'm like, it's weird how things are being pulled in different directions, isn't it? And it's ironic, isn't it, that you've got numbers dyslexia, but you can actually channel that. And it just shows you that we think this conditioned idea of what's good with numbers is what we were taught in school.

And actually the language of the universe is maths, isn't it? You know, it's really funny. Honestly, if somebody said to me, just do this and this off the top of your head, I'd be like, oh God. But actually before, you know, I used to be a psychotherapist and stuff.

And before I did that nursing, I had, I fell into this job with when Santander were every national and I ended up like, you'd get like plans of what you were doing and I were really good at it. And I ended up with a really, really good job for every national. And I was like, I'm not even good at maths.

And I was like, I can't even do maths. But obviously the computer does it all. But everybody used to take the piss of it.

And they were like, you can't even do maths. And you've got like this amazing career at every national, like I know. But so you don't actually need it in the way you think you need it, do you? No.

Are you going to use any of that when you leave? Oh God, no. So, yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's been absolutely lovely chatting to you. Thank you so much. I'll send you this recording now.

Oh, thank you so much. I could have pressed stop actually, couldn't I? Could have pressed stop. You are, you'll go on and edit that.

Yeah, yeah. It'll all get edited. I just go through the timestamps and just pick the last bit out and then like, I'll just say my cut, I don't know, say one point whatever out and it just cuts it all out and stuff.

Yeah. I'll add like an intro, I'll add like background music to fade in and out at the beginning and end and things like that. Brilliant.

And then send me it and then I'll share it with my community as well. Yeah, well, what I'll do is as well, I go on and I pick a little piece for a soundbite. So, it might be a couple of seconds, which I think is quite catchy where we're talking.

And then I'll share that as like a bit of a team user and say, right, the full episode's out. So, I'll share all that with you as well. Do you have a lot of reach with it as well? Do you have a lot of people listening? So, I did when I was, it was called Sacred Spirit Sessions, that was called Spirit Talks before.

I did it with that other woman. It was my podcast that I'd started. And what it was, she'd asked me to join the business, to join, collaborate, to do a spiritual festival where we live.

And then she does different elements and she was like, why don't we just join together? And you know when you think, oh, it'd be easier and really I should have thought with my gut. But because we've separated, I could have kept the podcast. And because I stepped back from her, she was like, well, you know, I'm going to lose out here and blah, blah, blah.

And I was just like, I can't be arsed with this. And I thought, to be fair, I'll just say, okay, I'll close the whole podcast down. So, we even reached Dubai.

We had people in Russia downloading, like countries you wouldn't even think of. So, we reached about 12 countries. My biggest thing where I wanted to try and get like, I had American clients.

I used to work with a lot of international clients. Again, a long time ago, worked alongside somebody. She was just more about money and things like that.

And we had like quite high profile client celebrities and our ego was just going completely in another direction. So, I stepped back from her. Well, yeah, you're better off not being associated with that sort of energy.

You'll just attract what you need. So, have you got like, a distribution list or anything like that? Or have you completely lost all of that now? We've got all the data and things like that. So, we've got, because obviously, I owned the rights to everything.

We've still got all the data and things like that. And what I've done is, I've put out, I've prolonged the closing of the podcast. And I've made an exit episode to say, it's been amazing having you all listening.

However, we're going on different paths. And if you'd like to continue with my journey, it will be at Sacred Spirit Sessions. So, that will go live this week.

Because I've been trying, I've interviewed loads of people, but I've been trying to transition over to get the listeners. And I just thought, actually, if there's the right kind of people joining to me, then they'll naturally navigate over to a new one. If they're not, that's fine.

Yeah, exactly. Well, I'll do my best as well with trying to drum up some interest. I'm sure there'll be a lot of people in my community curious.

Thank you. Yeah, they've been fascinating. I've just interviewed, do you know the woman that went missing? I've forgotten her name.

And she was found in a lake. Oh, yes. Yeah.

I've just interviewed the guy who found her, the psychic. So, but it ended up being like a two-hour episode, which is amazing. So, I'm just splitting it into chunks.

Yeah. And I've got a couple of the people, I'm just waiting to hear back. I don't know if you remember the psychic Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the little girls.

Yeah, yeah. I met that guy who found them really weirdly, like in my 30s. I never really had readings because my grandma were a medium and obviously I could do it.

But something just pushed me to contact, I found this guy popped up anyway. Every time I went to have a reading, there'd be like an oil spill on the motorway or something drastic. And he said, right, I'm going to come to you.

I never usually do, but I'm going to come to you from, I think it were Sherwood Forest. And he came up and he were like, you're definitely going to be a medium in your 40s, Danielle. And you're going to be doing this.

He told me loads of things and they were amazing. So I've just contacted him to say, would he come on the podcast? Then he wrote a book about finding the little girls and things. And it's kind of like work that I've been pushed to do again.

So most people don't know, but it's quite a long time ago, about five and a half years ago, I started to get murder victims and some of them had passed information onto the police and things like that. And then there were one particular one that we've not found. And then separately, a man came to me and he showed me what had happened to him, but it was in the paper the next day.

I told my friend at the time, I wasn't eating anyway, it was in the paper. There were different details that were left out that he'd shown me around his passing. And I'd seen that there was a woman involved and I was like, well, they've not got justice for him.

Like a year later, when it went to trial, men had been convicted, but not this woman and things. And then everybody said, they're not going to give you a murder. So I'd see spirits lining up of women.

And the mediums that I knew said, they're pulling back from you because you're pregnant and you can't do it when I got pregnant with Theo. And they were like, once he turns four, things will change. So this January, the man who got murdered, it were in the paper five and a half years later, the woman who was involved is just being convicted as well.

And I were like, you know when you're glad, but you're not glad, if that makes sense. And then coincidentally, the guy who found that woman added me on Facebook. And I'm like, why has he added me really randomly on Facebook? And I didn't know if it had come through the spiritual churches or something.

I'd not go in there anymore, but people know me that I go to them and it does services. And so he's naturally come forward. And then in the interview, I was saying to him, look, there's one woman that I can't say because it's quite a big profile case, she's been coming to me.

I've not, I've been able to give the information, I've handed it to them, but they've not taken it on board. Because it's like a Scotland Yard case. And he's foamer beeping and it's like on the podcast and he's like, there's a woman who I've been working with and her friend has gone missing and she's called Claudia and she's coming on the missing persons workshop that you're going to come on this week and she's wanting to get people to help find her.

And I'm like, you know, it's really synchronistic. I just thought, I feel like this is the work that I need to be doing. So I've got loads of different people coming on, but I feel like now it's people who've worked on similar case and things.

It's a completely different direction and I think that spirit has made me pull back my work to create space. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what happened, isn't it? Yeah, and the only clients that I've had come involved for coaching have been women. And I've just organically had five women say, can I book the six sessions coaching and things like that.

And I've been like, it's given me the finances to give me the space to be able to then just sit and do my transmediumship and whatever else. It's just, it's crazy how it all happens, isn't it? Completely, yeah. I'm not like 100% how things are going to work on full, but I'm just like open to the journey at the minute, probably where you're at.

Very much so, yeah. Just the more you trust, the more it flows. Yeah.

I'll let you go because I feel like I'm afraid. I'll speak to you soon. I'll send this now on the WeTransfer.

Oh, thank you Louise. Thank you, love. All right, have a lovely day.

Oh, actually, have you got an email address? Just send me your email address. I don't think I've got it. Yeah, it's danielle at goldenwolfwing.co.uk, but I'll send it straight.

Pop it on there, yeah. All right, love. All right, see you soon.

All right, bye-bye.