Ep 7 - All About Gina (And How Her Readings Shaped Kim's Journey)

What happens when a psychic reading predicts the impossible — and then every detail comes true?

In this deeply personal episode, Kim and Gina revisit the life-changing readings that shaped Kim’s journey. From shocking predictions about family, career, and even her book F Words for Your Soul, to the profoundly healing mediumistic messages that came through after the loss of Kim’s sister, Dana — this conversation reveals how intuition, timing, and spirit can guide us in the most unexpected ways.

Kim shares the exact predictions that unfolded over the years, including her daughter’s birth, a sudden move, and even the inspiration behind her book. She also opens up about the comfort and connection she felt through Gina’s mediumship — from finding a black stone ring meant just for her, to hearing her daughter’s heartbeat on the very date Dana had pointed to, to a breathtaking sign on a beach trip with her mom.

Gina then pulls back the curtain on her process, explaining how she receives messages through voice vibration, symbols, and visions, and why timelines sometimes shift but the core truth remains. Together, Kim and Gina reflect on faith, free will, and the power of trusting what feels impossible in the moment.

This episode is full of goosebumps, healing, and hope — reminding us that love never ends, and that even in our hardest seasons, spirit has a way of showing up with perfect timing.

Transcript

gina 1:38

Okay guys, are you ready for the weekly astrology forecast for September 8th through 14th, 2025? I'm Gina Garino, psychic, medium and spiritual life coach. So this week's cosmic vibe is all about grounding communication and possibly realizing your career or love life could use a little editing. Virgo season is still running the show, so expect an obsession with detail analysis and maybe reorganizing your spice rack alphabetically. Don't worry, it's normal because we are in Virgo season. On September 9th, mercury moves into Virgo, which means our brains go full on spreadsheet mode. This is how my brain is all the time. Expect hyper detailed thinking, overly precise texts, and the sudden urge to proofread even your grocery list. So midweek, we hit Sun Saturn opposition, which is basically the universe's way of handing you a mirror and saying. Look at yourself. Really look at yourself. It's a self-reflection moment, but instead of soothing a spa day, think more cosmic performance review. Then comes the sun, Jupiter Square. Which is like getting offered a buffet of opportunities, but realizing your plate is only so big. Go ahead and dream big, but maybe don't sign up for salsa lessons. Start a podcast or launch a side business all in the same weekend. Spread it out a little bit. So your main things that you really have to focus on are grounding yourself before you grow yourself. That's huge ground before you grow. Learn to be present. The second, communicate clearly and resist the urge to correct other people's grammar unless it is severely bad. And think of this week as an editing phase. Trim what's not working so the good stuff can shine through. All right. I know that's a tall docket for this week, but enjoy it and ride the wave. Let it rip.

kim 3:53

In F Words For Your Soul, I talk a lot about magic. This is the word I use to describe science that we don't yet fully understand. However, today I feel called to talk to you about an entirely different kind of magic. Today we are taking a break from our 12 part series on the 12 universal laws. In order to give our listeners a little background on who Gina and I are and how we know each other. We'll pick right back up where we left off next week with the law of perpetual transmutation of energy. But today's episode is going to be all about Gina. I'm going to share with you how I met Gina about my readings with her and what she's meant in my life, and I'll also be interviewing her so that we can learn even more about her in a few weeks. Gina will be flipping the script and will be interviewing me as well. So Gina, I thought we'd start by sharing how we know each other. Um, Uhhuh, you may not even remember this, but I met you for the first time way back in 2014. My sister Dana recommended you to do my hair and makeup for my wedding. I was living in Lexington, Kentucky at the time, getting ready to move to Indiana. So that was our first brief encounter. Of course you did a great job on my hair and makeup.

gina 5:10

That's so funny. I totally forgot about that. But yeah, I did do your wedding. Yeah, I

kim 5:14

figured you probably did. Oh my gosh. So it wasn't until 2020 that I had my first psychic reading with you. And I'm gonna talk about that reading. But first, for those that don't know, you don't know your story, can you give us a little background on how you got into this field of work, how you became a psychic medium, and just how you learned about your gifts, what prompted you to start reading for people?

gina 5:42

Oh my God. Are we gonna have like a six hour podcast to tell my back story of how this all came about? Holy moly, girl. Okay, I'm gonna condense it down to just like the highlighted parts. Okay? Okay. That works. So I will say this, bless my parents' hearts. I was always a very different child. A very sensitive one, one with nature. I wanted to be in dirt, but then also I felt a ton and I was a hairdresser and makeup artist for a million years. Worked for Aveda. Did hair and makeup for celebrities that would come in town. I worked on an amazing show for the Food Network doing hair and makeup, and it was at the height of my hairdressing career. When my grandfather passed and he was the most significant person in my life that had passed away. And it really hit home for me. He was such a spirited. Person. A very spirited, okay, I'm gonna give you all a visual. Imagine an old man with stark white hair that's like longer. He uses his comb constantly to like,, comb it back. Has a big, huge white mustache, a chain around his neck and an eagle the size of two silver dollars hanging a two carat diamond earring, carats of diamonds on his hands. Like this is the person that passed away in my life. Okay? And the night of his memorial, he came to me in my dreams. And that morning I woke up and my whole entire life was completely different. I could see spirit, hear, spirit, feel, spirit, and I didn't know what to do with it. And so I told my family about my dream that my grandfather was in, and they acted like it was completely normal. So I was like, all right, I guess everybody does this stuff. And soon after that, I had decided to go to a place called Lilydale. And Lilydale is in upstate New York, in the town of Fredonia or Dunkirk, that little area, and coincidentally enough. I grew up like a mile and a half away from there, but I didn't know that this place existed. It is a place that is a gated community of all psychic mediums. And you go there for readings and classes and all of this. Goodness. Well, I went there. To get a reading after my grandfather passed and the medium, I'll never forget this. His name was John White, A little old guy. Soon he would be my teacher, mentor, and amazing person in my life. But at this point I didn't know him. He was just some weird guy that was giving me a reading, and the first sentence out of his mouth was, I see a blue star in the center of your forehead. That's my sign and symbol for a medium. I don't know if you know this yet or not, but you're a medium. Well, in that moment, everything made sense in my life and I was like. I am a medium like yes, but I also didn't know what the word medium meant.'cause this was forever ago where the word medium was not mainstream at all. I was like, yeah, I'm totally that. But also what is that? And so. From that moment on, I was just lit on fire. I traveled to Essex England, to the Arthur Finlay College for Psychic Sciences for mediums like me. I trained with the best mediums in the world. Paul Jacobs, Mavis Patella. You know, a bunch of others, and I went there year after year after year, getting this amazing training and I was just lit on fire. I actually started teaching mediums how to be mediums before I actually did a paid professional reading. It was nuts. I had the most bizarre story ever. And come to find out, I'm actually a platform medium. So what that means is that my mediumship or my connection to spirit really shines when I'm on stage. Now, if you know me personally, I hate being the center of attention. And so you can imagine the panic attacks that I get. Every single time I'm about to set on stage, and I do every single time, but once I get up there, I'm good. And so I realized during that coming about and really stepping into who I am is that, I really am living a life of service. Every moment of every day, I ask God, my angels, my guides, what do you want me to do today and how do you want me to serve? And I live my life through and through of being of service. And so it, it really is, the most fulfilling thing that I can think of doing in my life.

kim 10:51

You know, when you talk about Arthur College, I can't help but think about like. Hogwarts. Is that what it was like?

gina 10:58

Coincidentally, my first time going over there, I was arriving on Halloween Day. And so my family made fun of me. They were like, we're gonna get you a hat and a scarf and we're gonna get you all the Harry Potter stuff. And it was exactly like Harry Potter. It is an amazing castle that was built in the 18 hundreds. And you take classes there, you room there. It's exactly like Hogwarts. And oh, by the way, they have retired race horses in the back country side of this place also. So it's like English style rose gardens with retired race horses in the back. And then you have all these magical people inside of this castle. It's amazing.

kim 11:47

You said a few things that I wanna go back to. You mentioned that your family acted as though it was totally normal when you told them that you were seeing spirits. Now I know the reason for this, but I think it would help for those listening to hear this as well. So why in the world would your family act like this was totally normal?

gina 12:06

We've always talked about dreams. Like ever since I was a little girl, we would sit at the breakfast table and be like, oh, I dreamt this. Oh, I dreamt that. Dreams were always such a big part of conversation that it wasn't abnormal at all whatsoever. Plus, I feel like this has to do with our Italian heritage as well, so I'm second generation American, full-blooded Italian. Well, three-fourths Italian, one fourth Sicilian. But I think it has to do with our heritage of Catholicism and believing in saints and angels. And there is a lot of mysticism in Catholicism, the way that I was raised. And also. I have other intuitive mediums in my family and they have all had stories, I mean, way before I was even born. So it's just in all of our blood, you know? It's just in us. It's almost

kim 13:04

like it was handed down. Yes. Yeah. And then you mentioned being a platform medium and how you hate being the center of attention. So this leads to another one of my questions for you. Mm-hmm. And this is a hard one, so, oh gosh. For, for everybody listening, Gina did not want me to send her my questions ahead of time and she's back. I did not. No. And you told me to really get in there, ask you the hard questions. So this is one of those. Okay. Oh gosh. So in many groups there is a stigma around psychics and mediums. A lot of people just don't trust it. They think it's fake. You know, there's this persona that like crazy old woman in a headdress with the dingly jewelry staring into a crystal ball, and oftentimes that depiction involves this person who's just trying to scam you outta money.

gina 13:51

Yeah.

kim 13:52

Now, I've known you Gina for many years now, and you were just the. Total opposite of this persona. You're young, beautiful, smart, successful, separate from being a psychic medium. You talked about it being at the height of your career when you started realizing that spirit was calling you. And so knowing you personally, knowing all of this about you, I know what you do is real. You have absolutely no reason to do it otherwise. Like why would anyone choose to enter this type of career and put yourself through all of that negative stereotyping if it wasn't real and if it wasn't your true calling. But I do get. That people really need to use their discernment when it comes to things like this, I think. Mm-hmm. Part of people's hesitancy in believing it is that there's probably quite a few just totally d Lulu people out there Yeah. Who think they can see the future. And I mean, let's be totally honest here. You are hearing voices, you're seeing pictures. Yeah. Um. When you get down to it, like that's a common symptom of what we classify as mental illness. Now, I know you don't have a mental illness. You're completely sane. You're completely sane and rational person. But here's what I wanna say about that, and then I want to hear your response also to the kind of stigma that surrounds what you do as well. But as a society, we have often stigmatized that which is outside of the norm. Like as human beings, we just fear whatever is different. Uh, anything that we don't understand. But just because very few people have the same gifts and talents as you, and just because science hasn't caught up yet and society therefore hasn't caught up yet, doesn't make it not real, it doesn't make it wrong. So can you respond to those people who are either scared of it or don't trust it, don't believe it, and just that entire stigma around what you do.

gina 15:41

So I absolutely love this question because when I entered this world, I was the biggest skeptic. Like one, I was the biggest skeptic and I really researched this a lot. And yeah, there's tons of scammers. Like I just got a message yesterday from my old boss in DC Patty, she messaged me and was like, someone has created account that looks just like yours. She's asking me for money. All of the things, and it just, it breaks my heart because of where I come from. Form of integrity and the scammers are doing that. But like I said, I started as a firm skeptic myself, and when I started doing this, I couldn't even utter the word angel. That's how far away I was from my spirituality when all of this started happening and. I look at it first from a biblical standpoint, because majority of people that frown upon what I do. It's always from a biblical standpoint. And when this started happening to me, I did go to my priest and talk to'em about it because I had a few instances in my life that were actually huge in life, changing with a person. Telling me what they thought of me. I remember to give you more concrete. I remember I booked my first big venue for an event it could hold 250 people. I booked this event space, everything was set in stone, and it was two weeks before the event. And I get a phone call from the owner of the building saying that she's terminating my contract. And I asked her why, and she said, well, I didn't fully understand what you booked the venue for. And I am a God-fearing woman, and you're the devil and you're possessed by the devil. And she was saying. All of these horrible things to where I went in spiritual crisis. I was like, maybe she is right. Maybe I am the devil. Maybe I do have the devil in me, and maybe I'm not supposed to be doing this. Oh, by the way, when I received this phone call, I was just handed the keys to the property where I was starting my first wellness center. So it was like my whole entire world was crashing down. Mm-hmm. And so I really did some soul searching on it. I talked to my priest and he said the way that I was doing it was that of God's work. And he said, don't listen to anyone except God. You talk to God and that's it. And that's whose opinion you need to worry about. And I was like, I love you for that and thank you. And so when I look at it from a biblical standpoint of God is in each and every one of us. And Jesus was the greatest medium of all time. He could talk to angels, he could talk to God, he could perform miracles. He could turn water into wine. He could heal people with his hands, and God was in him. Mm-hmm. Jesus was a normal human being that God works through. And in the Bible it says God is in. Each and every one of us. So why couldn't I do what Jesus has done or elements of it? Mm-hmm. And so when I think about it like that, we all have to soul search because here's the thing, getting my type of spirituality of what I believe in, like I don't have a malice bone in my body. I don't have one ounce of me that wants to hurt anyone ever, even when they're terrible to me. Like I don't have those things in me. And when I look at other people that are struggling within their spirituality, I'm like, oh my gosh, you just need to connect more. You need to talk to your loved ones. In spirit, everything is energy, but the beliefs are so. Hard. There's no wiggle room for that. But yes, you have to use your discernment with psychics and mediums, a hundred percent. And that's why I always say, don't go to someone random. Go to who you are drawn to. Look at their integrity, look at what they stand for, and then go to that person that. Really has a heart to help people, not someone that's after the money or making a living or something like that.'cause I will tell you, I would've never chosen this career. I never grew up thinking I'm gonna be a psychic when I get older. Like never in my wildest dreams, because I work with death every hour of every day. Yeah. I work with people's like secretive problems. Every hour of every day, and I hold that with such compassion of just wanting them to know that God is on their side and you're gonna be okay. I just would. I would've never chosen it. It is the hardest thing. To be able to feel the energy of what's going on and interpret it and help people and be of service in that way with nothing concrete to back it up, other than things playing out the way that you say that they're playing out. Mm-hmm. You know, there's plenty of, it is wild ride.

kim 21:23

Yeah, it is, uh, definitely a hard path and one that I don't think anybody would choose, like I said, unless it was their true calling. Mm-hmm. Um, and I love that you got that validation from your priest because to grow up Catholic and then to have somebody condemning you for doing these kind of things mm-hmm. You know, to hear it directly from the priest's mouth. And I believe that was probably spirit talking through him, so that's amazing.

gina 21:46

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

kim 21:48

So you, obviously are very busy. You're teaching, you are mentoring, you're constantly, holding classes to teach other people how to get in touch with their own intuition and discover their own gift. You do still do hair just for a select few clients that won't let you go? I'm one of those, yes. You own Spirit Spa Louisville, which is a wellness center here in Louisville, Kentucky. So you are quite possibly one of the busiest people that I know. I don't know where you find all of the energy to do everything that you do. But I am curious, like how many readings are you doing now? Like what does your daily schedule look like?

gina 22:27

I will say this. I have downsized how many readings I will do in a day because of my energy level. When I first started, I would do walk-in readings where I would do discounted readings for the public, and I would do it from 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM 15 minute readings. All day. Oh my goodness. And so I came to a point about, and this was like maybe like between year three and year five, where I actually went to the Arthur Finley College, and when I arrived I had. A little mental breakdown because I was so exhausted from how many readings I was doing. How was I ever gonna be in training all day, every day for two weeks? And my teacher asked me, how many readings are you doing in a day? And I said. Anywhere between, like, if I'm doing 30 minute readings, I'll do like eight a day and if I'm doing, you know, 30 minutes and 15 minutes, like it might be between eight and 15 readings, and they were like, oh my God. They're like, you're not supposed to do that. And I was like, well, what do you mean? I mean, I am doing it and I'm doing it fine. I'm just really tired. And they're like, no, you're gonna deplete your energy doing it that way. Mm-hmm. And so right now I have scaled all the way back from eight to 15 clients a day, and I try to keep it at around six a day. And I will tell you that when I have a day that only has three readings, those readings are so freaking amazing. And I'm like, oh, I love only doing three readings a day. It feels very luxurious. Um, but I love to get people in. And so six is like my sweet spot for readings. Mm-hmm.

kim 24:22

And I think that really speaks to, Your accuracy and your authenticity, and just how good you are at what you do, because I'm sure as a psychic medium, most of your clients are probably recommended to you. Mm-hmm. Or they're repeat clients. So to be doing that many a day on a regular basis, just goes to show how great you are at this Thank, and you do, you have different types of readings. So you are a psychic. Mm-hmm. You are a medium. Mm-hmm. Those are two different things. Right. You can look into. Possible future situations and outcomes. And then you can also connect with the spirit world. And I know when I did my readings with you, that was always your, one of your first questions was, you know, what kind of reading are you looking for? Can you kind of speak to that a little bit about the two different kinds of readings you can do and, maybe tell us, which ones you enjoy doing the most and why? Yes.

gina 25:19

Oh, this is such a good question. So. When you are a medium, the word medium encompasses everything. You are capable of doing. Everything you are. You have the ability to tap into anything and everything. Okay? And all mediums are psychic. Not all psychics are mediums. Some psychics cannot tap into. That collective energy and contact your loved ones. So a psychic reading is future predictions. Reading what's going on in your aura right now, and then looking into your future and seeing what's gonna happen and give you detailed times and events of things that are gonna play out. I love doing specific predictions because. I try to get extremely accurate on the dates, and if it doesn't happen on say, September 10th, then it might happen on the 11th or the ninth. Like I try to pinpoint it that exact, and sometimes I even get the times correct on things that are gonna happen, but I really try to push myself for that accuracy. So psychic readings are tapping into things that are going on currently and things that are going on in the future. And then doing a mediumistic reading is all connecting into the spirit world, connecting into your guides, your angels, your loved ones that are in spirit, that have crossed over. And I get this question a lot in my readings, all pull someone through in a reading and they're like, oh, I wasn't close to them. And. I'm like, it doesn't matter if you were close to them or not. Your uncle is still trying to come through and give you a message and I'm gonna deliver the message.'cause guess what? I work for the spirit world. I don't work for my clients sitting in my chair. Like I do what they want me to do and I say what they want me to say, not necessarily what they're wanting in my chair. So I mean, people from high school. That, you know, in high school will come out, family members you've never met. Um, but I do my medium mystic readings in a very specific way of getting to the heart of the matter. And I used to do them in a very mechanical way. I used to be super mechanical in my mediumship, meaning it was all evidence-based. An evidence-based mediumship is, I have your dad here, his name is Doug. He lived on Mulberry Street. He. Worked in construction and drove a truck and he had three kids. Well, that's all super fancy, right? That I get all of that correct. And I love the fanciness of it. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm killing it. But like the recipient already knows all of that stuff about their loved one. So I'll say some of that, but then I go into the heart of the matter of what was their emotional connection, and I really strive to get that emotional pull. Between the spirit person and my client.

kim 28:34

Mm. Which I would say is even better because mm-hmm. Only they can know that a lot of those facts and things can be found somewhere, I'm sure. Mm-hmm. Not that you would ever do that, but when you talk to the emotional connection between two people that only they can know, that's when they really know, okay. Like you are, you're connecting with this person. Yeah. And I think that that's what means the most to them. Um, well, I have had both. Kind of readings with you. I have done the future prediction, psychic reading, and then I have also had a reading where I connected with the spirit world. So I thought I'd tell a little bit about those two different readings.'cause I think it can kind of give people some insight into how you do or not necessarily how you do. I'll ask you those questions in a minute. But what you do, and what those readings are like, so. My first reading with you was on September 30th, 2020. Now, this date. Oh my

gina 29:31

gosh,

kim 29:32

yes.

gina 29:33

Like right after shutdown.

kim 29:34

Yes, and that date is significant for another reason as well, because it was just 18 days before my sister passed away. Oh wow. So I think back to that now, you know, my sister introduced us. She's also the reason I had a reading with you, and I think back to that now, and I just cannot help but feel like it was meant to be. I don't know why Dana waited so long to share the reading that she had with you, with me because she had a reading with you quite some time before that would've had to have been at least a year or so before. Um. I know because you predicted that she was gonna get pregnant, she was gonna have a little boy, those kind of things. But for whatever reason, she didn't tell me about it until, very, very close to before she passed away and she had recorded the reading. You always encourage people to record their readings. So she shared that recording with me. I listened to it. I remember being shocked. That she'd had a reading with you that wasn't really, something I would've expected Dana to do.

gina 30:43

You were shocked. I was shocked. Okay, so let me just say this to you guys. I had done Dana's hair for like years at this point, like four forever. And she knew what I did. Like she knew that. My main career was doing readings and all of that. Never asked a word about them. We never had any spiritual conversations. So when she wanted a reading, I was like, what? Why? Like, this is so crazy. That was completely shocked.

kim 31:17

My thoughts as well. She's just, I don't know, just that, let's just say it's way more up my alley than it would have been at Dana's. So I again was just shocked. And then she chose this completely random time to share it with me. I think she just waited until some of the things came to fruition, you know, Hey, look at this, this is crazy. This really happened. Um, and you did, you predicted quite a few things for her. And so I immediately was like, I'm gonna book a reading as well. And so I did very quickly. And then I had my reading with you. And, I'll just say that you blew my mind. I'll tell a few things. I mean, I, it's kind of hard. I'm gonna go through a couple things, but just know that there's lots of things that transpired. But just to kind of share some of the things that you did predict. So, you did predict that I would get pregnant again, that I would have a little girl. And you even predicted the age difference between her and my son, which. I had no plans to have another baby at the time of the reading. We were definitely like one and done in her minds at that point. Um, and it wasn't actually until after my sister passed that I realized, how much of a blessing a sibling is. And that's really when we decided, okay, we wanted to try for a sibling for our son Knox. So, um, yeah, you predicted that. Which was mind blowing. You also predicted that I would be able to quit my job. You said within two to two and a half years, you said that my husband would make enough money that I wouldn't need to work anymore, which, mm-hmm. Again, at the time was insane. My husband Kyle had just started his company. You didn't know what he did at all. But we were barely scraping by. Like I was definitely the breadwinner at that point. Like to think that he was gonna make enough money that I would be able to quit was crazy. You were like, this girl's batshit crazy. Yes, definitely. And sometimes that's how readings are in the moment. Yeah. It's almost like you have to wait some time and then go back and listen to that recording and go, oh my gosh, all of this did happen even though it sounded so crazy at the time. But yeah, sure enough, it was almost two years later that I was able to quit my job just as you'd predicted. You predicted the exact month that we would be moving in the upcoming year. Even though again, there was no plans at all for us to move at the time of the reading. Um, this was September. And we ended up moving in June of the following year. And again, that's when you said we would be moving. And you even predicted that we would move outside the city of Louisville, which we did. Oh my

gina 33:53

gosh.

kim 33:54

Yeah. One of the things you said. Was that A CPA was going to be making life easier and better for us, and a very short time later, our CPA encouraged us to take out a PPP loan, which, it was being offered by, the government to businesses for COVID relief. It was non repayable and mm-hmm. that would give us the leg up that we kind of needed at the time. And that's then when we decided to move. You also foresaw what you called family things coming up, you said that I would be stepping into the role of caretaker. That everything was going to be okay, but that there would be this sense of I'm going to be around you and I'm going to take care of you. And of course this was spot on because after my sister passed, less than a month later, my husband and I and our son moved in with my brother-in-law to help take care of my niece and nephew. So that made perfect sense, And then one of the biggest things that you predicted was my book. So you told me that my soul gift was writing and that my purpose was healing people with my words. And I am a writer. I was a writer back then too, which you would have no way of knowing this. My sister didn't know, my parents didn't know. I didn't talk to anybody about the fact that I was writing or wanted to write a book. But you said, and I quote, I'm seeing this other part of you that's being planted, and it's almost as if it's being planted this month. Now remember, this reading was within a month of my sister's passing, and that event is really what sparked efforts for your soul. So you hit that spot on as well. And you told me that everything, every trial, every tribulation was setting me up for my life's purpose. Which of course, I would write about all of the trials and tribulations in my book.

gina 35:42

Yeah,

kim 35:43

so you also hit the nail on the head, you said? I would be writing a how to book some kind of book dedicated to children. Of course, F Words for Your Soul is a how to book. It was written for and dedicated to my children. You said you saw it on a Amazon, which it is, and

gina 35:58

yeah, yeah it is. Mama, your book is on Amazon. Finally, you also said it

kim 36:04

would take great effort and great dedication, which it certainly did because it took me five years to publish it. So one of the things you also said during that reading was that you mentioned two of my favorite authors, which blew me away. I remember it blowing me away at the time because, you said my writing was like a collaboration of these two authors. But here's the kicker. You said that something was going to come into fruition on November 16th, and that it would be go time on that date for my book. And what neither of us could have known during this call. Was that on the exact date that you gave me? It would indeed be go time, just as you'd said, because it was a few weeks. Then after my sister had passed. It was this moment that I finally had of like catching my breath after planning the funeral, all the calls and paperwork, all the sleepless nights, everything that kind of goes along with losing someone close to you. And I would finally have this free moment to sit and just process everything that had happened. And so, and you know, I wasn't even looking at a calendar. Um, but I took. A walk. I took my notebook and I sat down, at this lake down the road from our home. And I closed my eyes, took a few deep breaths. I was just trying to calm my nerves, you know, trying to wash away all of the pain and stress of the past few weeks. And I took out my notebook and I began to write a letter to my son, about all the trials and tribulations that, you know, oh wow. I had faced, and how we overcame them. And that letter would end up being the start of efforts for your soul. So. When I look back to this reading now, it just blows me away. It blows me away the timing of it. Again, feeling like it was just meant to be that this was, you were this connection between me and my sister. And I will tell more about that reading in a moment as well after my sister passed and I was able to connect with her, through talking with you. But I wanna pause for a minute because, um, you know, I'm sure that I've said. Something to the effect of this over the years to you, but your words really sparked something in me. That reading meant so much to me. It was almost like you opened up my mind and you took all of my hopes and dreams and you said this is possible. Not only that it was possible, but that it was going to happen. Yeah. So I just can't tell you how much that meant to me. I remember going back and listening to your words throughout the years, you know, when I had doubts. And just listening to your voice and the emphasis and the deep conviction in your words when you said, never think that no one will read your words, because they will, you'll help many, many people. Um, and honestly, that just. I wanna thank you because that meant so much to me over the years, and that is why I would recommend anyone to get a reading because just having someone be able to give you a glimpse into something that can mean so much to you. It's just such a beautiful thing. And I think both sides of what you do is very beautiful, Um. I also wanted to get your reaction because I don't think you probably know most of what I just told you. I know that you've told me before that you don't remember your readings, so I wanted to get your reaction and kind of hear a little bit more about,

gina 39:30

all of that. I wish people could see my face. Right now I am not often speechless, and I'm not often moved. Emotionally. So for those that can't see my face right now, I was tearing up the whole time that Kim was talking because. You know, of course my clients reach out to me, they text me, they DM me, and they're like, oh my gosh, this came true. I can't believe it. Or like, oh my gosh, you were right. I'm pregnant. Like I get all of those amazing texts, but not in the entirety that you just did. And so thank you for that. It was really humbling and made me feel really grateful for this conversation of it. It's amazing to hear all of those things that that came true, but mostly how it impacted your life and help guide you and give you. Hope during, you know, one of the hardest times of your life, and also one of the most amazing times of your life with publishing your book. And so that's just, I'm just speechless over here. I'm like a pile of mush. Thank you for sharing all of that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, give us the tea.

kim 40:46

I'm gonna go to the obvious question right now. Yes. How do you do it? Oh,

gina 40:53

my, I have absolutely no clue. Okay, so this is, so this is how, this is how it works. Okay. So the way that, the way that I work is through voice vibration. So at the beginning of every reading. I have people say their name and their date, and it is through the vibration of their voice. I begin to start to feel things and see things and experience things. And the way that my mind works with this is I will start to get pictures in my mind. And sometimes it is like a whole entire movie clip. And I will describe the movie clip or the visions that I'm having in my mind, either for a prediction or a loved one in spirit, and I describe it to a T and then boom, it happens. And I have a very analytical mind. It's very organized when it comes to my intuition. And I do have signs and symbols that mean different things. Of course, all mediums do, but mine is very much, I feel everything with my gut instinct and I see everything. And if I describe everything that I'm seeing. I tell every single client this, if you get to a point in the reading where you say, I think this girl is batshit crazy, this is never gonna happen to me. I say this in my reading. Like expect to feel this way and know that that's God's way or the universe's way of giving you a surprise in life. Because the stuff that flies outta my mouth, I have no idea. And the reason why I don't remember them is because if I'm doing six readings in a day, okay, that's three hours of a conversation. Right that I might remember, like a little thing here, a little thing there. But when information is in the moment and present and I'm reading my mind, and I'm reading my emotions and my feelings, it's hard to recall all of that when it's done. And so God gives me a little gift of when my reading is done, I say goodbye to them. My whole experience is just gone. But. I will tell you this, I do remember your reading, your Mediumistic reading, and I remember not all of it, but I remember a portion of it, very detailed. Mm-hmm. And I'll tell you why when we get to that portion, but I do remember things occasionally. Wow. And so,

kim 43:45

Let me ask you this. How do you keep your mind out of it? So you're seeing pictures, and I also know it's open to your interpretation as well, and I am going to touch on something where you interpreted it wrong. Oh, good. Perfect. You're gonna love this, but, how do you keep your mind out of it? How do you navigate all of that and make sure that you're bringing through, what you're actually seeing for

gina 44:11

people. Mm-hmm. I just have to trust God in the universe and trust myself that what they are giving me. Is accurate in what the person needs to hear. Mm-hmm. And so as far as interpreting things, like one of my famous examples is an apple. If I see an apple in my mind, okay, it can mean a few different things. It can mean you're traveling to the big apple, you're going to New York. It can mean you're a teacher, or you're getting ready to learn something, or we need to focus on your nutrition. And so I have to use my gut instinct. To feel out which version of the apple is for you. And so I have to feel it and then psychics are wrong. Sometimes like I might feel like, oh, we gotta talk about your nutrition, but really you're gonna learn something new. Like occasionally those interpretations, you know, will have a slipup. My interpretation might not always be 100% accurate or correct, but there will always be an element that's correct.

kim 45:22

Always. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And you know, I don't know if this is correct or not, so correct me if I'm wrong. Okay. But there's different timelines, I would assume. Oh yeah. And so future possibilities are just that there are possibilities, but what does that mean exactly? Like why might the timeline change and something not come to fruition?

gina 45:46

Hmm. So if the timeline changes, this happens a lot in relationships. When I do predictions for relationships and soulmates, I always say this, I've learned to say this. In my earlier years I did not, but I've learned to say in predicting anything around relationships, please know that there's free will of the other person involved. So timelines can change. Mm-hmm. Also, it's the butterfly effect, like one flap of a wing can change. A lot of different decisions. One small decision to go get a cup of coffee real quick can change numerous things, but the way that God sets me up for my readings is that I see around those things in those timelines to the best of my ability. So with timelines, I know that I've done this before'cause my clients have told me, oh Gina, the guy that you said is gonna be my soulmate didn't come in in February of 2024. Like you said, he came in in February of 2025, but everything you said is precise. And I'm like, well, crap, what happened? That's a year later, you know, like, how did, how did that happen? I don't have the answers to that. Like true honesty, I don't have the answers to that. Other than God didn't want it to happen in 2024. I interpreted the year wrong, or it was the free will of the other person, and I think I would have to look at each individual situation to see which one was the reason.

kim 47:29

Yeah,

gina 47:30

that makes

kim 47:30

sense. Well, I wanna move on, and talk a little bit about my reading with you after my sister passed where you did, um, the medium. What, how, what did you call it? The medium. Oh, mediumistic reading. Mediumistic Reading. Thank you. So. After my sister passed, you know, I had just had that reading with you 18 days prior to that. So it was a no-brainer for me to reach out to you to see if you could connect to Dana to see if I could connect to her again. Mm-hmm. Um, and there were so many things during that reading. Again, I can't. This would be hours long if I focused on all of them. But I did wanna give just a few examples of some things that you told me. You told me that there was, that Dana actually, multiple people came through for me. First of all, um, lots of people in the spirit world, they all had messages for me. You described them perfectly. It was all on point.

gina 48:30

Um, can, can I say one thing? So people know where my head was when I was getting ready to read for you. Yeah, absolutely. During this, just real quick, you guys, so when Kim reached out to me to do a reading for her and bring Dana through, I about had a heart attack.

kim 48:48

Mm-hmm.

gina 48:49

And I was like, this is the biggest deal reading I've ever done, and here's why. Dana was my friend. And I didn't know if I was gonna be able to hold it, like keep it together during the reading. Mm-hmm. Also, I freaking knew everything about her. Mm-hmm. I was her hairdresser. I knew girl, I knew all the things. I knew every boyfriend leading up to her husband, the good, the bad, the ugly. I knew everything about her kids, everything about her marriage, everything. I knew everything. How was I gonna give a reading when I thought I knew everything inside and out? And so when I read for you, all I remember is I got off the phone with you and I sat there and I sulked and I said, I effed up. I did a horrible reading and I didn't do Dana justice and Kim is gonna think I'm a fraud. And I sulked for days because I thought I did such a shit reading. Okay. So that's not my, that's where my head was. Now you can take it away.

kim 50:08

I will say it was very much, it was very similar to my first reading with you where, It wasn't until some time passed and I re-listened to it. And had some conversations with some other people that I started to realize wow. How on point it was. And, uh, just openly to discuss, I had more than one reading with you. I had two readings that involved, connecting with Dana. So I'm gonna be combining here a little bit. Okay. Um, but. And you did say that when we started the reading, you said, I do know Dana, I do know the circumstances around what happened to her. You know, there, there was an accident that took place. Um, but you said, I'm gonna try to bring through some things that I couldn't, that I couldn't possibly know some things. Mm-hmm. You know, hopefully about that day and that kind of thing. And you did. So one of the things you told me was that there was a dark stone that I was going to find, that it was meant for me. And. Sure enough, when I was going through Dana's jewelry, there was this ring with this huge black stone on it. There weren't any other rings. Dana was not a ring person. She didn't wear rings other than her wedding ring, and she had these tiny little fingers. Um, I have much larger fingers. I have, I have what I call man hands, and so, and I love rings. You dont. Yeah, I love rings. That's like my, one of my favorite things. And so this ring miraculously fit me, the only one that she had in her whole jewelry case. Um Oh wow. Which means there's no way it fit her and I'm sure that she had planned on giving it to me. So that was just kind of crazy. You also told me, that she said there was a date coming up in the following year that was going to be very special for me. Now, she didn't say what was going to happen on that day, only that it would be very special. And she gave me the exact date almost a year in advance. Okay. Uh, so the following year, and it ended up being the date that I heard my daughter Chloe's heartbeat for the first time Now. Oh, goosebump. Yeah. You call to make the first doctor's appointment. You know, you find out you're pregnant, you call, and typically there's dates and times to choose from. There's many available. I swear on my life, I found out I was pregnant. I called to schedule and the lady was like, oh my gosh, we are so booked up this month. Like, I don't have anything available. She puts me on hold. She comes back and she says, I'll tell you what, I can squeeze you in on. And it was that date and it was like my only choice. And so, yeah, it was just wild to hear Chloe's heartbeat on that date and know that,, it can't get more special than that. Of course, that's what Dana was talking about. Mm-hmm. She was also handing me a pink baby blanket again, confirming that I was gonna have a little girl. And I wasn't pregnant or anything at the time. You also. Put to rest some, thoughts that I was having. Dana was showing you, me with the kids and her being right next to us, and her just saying thank you. Thank you for taking care of them as if they were my own. And you went on to say,, I'm seeing you around the kids a lot, like a whole lot, almost like you've adopted them and basically, you know, and you had no idea. That I had moved in with Sean and the kids. Um, no,

gina 53:18

no clue.

kim 53:18

Yeah. And basically I had this question about what to do with the kids and, what role I needed to have in their lives.'cause at the time I'm thinking they need a mother, you know? And that's me. Um. But Dana kind of told me like, listen, don't do what you think you should do. Don't do what you think you need to do, Sean and the kids are gonna be fine. Like, you know? Mm-hmm. We had uprooted our lives. It was difficult, and she just kind of gave me permission to take a step back and go, okay, and it just kind of put my heart to rest on that. Dana had messages for her husband, Sean. I won't go into too much detail, but. There was this one that, Dana kept saying the word Brooklyn over and over again, and it was, you told me it was in reference to Sean and so, um, I had no idea what that meant. And you also said, I did talk to Sean about it. Um. And I'll tell you what that meant, but you also said that she was holding a baby in her hands. You wanted to know who had miscarried. And I said, I don't know. I didn't miscarry. Dana didn't miscarry. I don't know who this baby is. And you were saying, well, she wants you to know that she has this baby. And then you also talked about some remorse that Sean was feeling, an argument that happened earlier in the day. All of these, um. Kind of like timeline, he was going round and round in his mind about, um, these events. If one thing had been different, Dana would still be here, that kind of thing. And, Dana basically said, stop, this was always meant to be, this was always my timeline. We loved each other. That's just how we were like, stop worrying about it. Mm-hmm. And so I finally got up the nerves, talked to Sean about those things, and sure enough. Uh, Dana's best friend had actually miscarried soon after she passed. And, so that was Dana showing her it's okay, like I've got, I've got your baby. Um, sorry, I'm gonna try not to cry. And then when I told Sean the Brooklyn part, his mouth dropped to the floor. There's this song by the T brothers called I and Love and You, and in this. Song like in the Hook it says, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in over and over again, like throughout the whole song. And Sean shared that, they had heard that song on vacation for the first time that week before my sister's accident. And he and Dana both loved it. They played it over and over again on vacation, just back to back. They sung it, they danced to it. And after the accident, the song. Kept playing every single time he was working out or doing anything where he had music on. And it just felt like it was Dana's doing, it felt like she was speaking to him. The song was very much about like love and loss and heartbreak and going home and it felt like this message from Dana. So you basically confirmed that for him that it was her? Yeah. Um. And then, yeah, you just put his mind to ease as well, with, stop worrying about any kind of silly arguments we had. We loved each other. That's how we were, you know? Mm-hmm. Nothing, there's nothing you could have done to change what happened. It was always meant to be, it was always going to happen. And so it just, it was exactly what he needed to hear. Um, and things that you couldn't have possibly known, which is wild. No.

gina 56:30

Yeah.

kim 56:30

I think one of the most profound things, and this will be the last one I tell you, because we're running out of time, but, Dana showed you that I had a beach trip coming up and was specific that there would be more than two people on this trip. Mm-hmm. And she then inspired you to draw a star on your piece of paper. Sitting in front of you and then you put a circle around it and you interpreted this as a sand dollar, and you said that there would be a trip. Yeah, there would be a trip to the beach coming up. And that Dana would be sending me something, that I would find something special in the sand, like a sand dollar. But she said that I would know it when. Saw it and you said that Dana kept showing you the number five, so you interpreted it as May. And so of course I flipped through my calendar. Sure enough, I had a beach trip scheduled with my mom for Mother's Day in May. Um, no way. Which you had no way of knowing about, hadn't posted about it or anything like that. We had just literally just planned it. And so you were like, oh, of course. That's what she means about there being more than two people on this trip. It's not just gonna be you and your mom, like she's gonna be there with you. But we go on this trip, of course, I'm looking for sand dollars everywhere. I'm not finding any, I'm finding a lot of broken ones, but that certainly didn't feel right. Um, and so it's like, it's a three day trip. It's the last day we're getting ready to head inside. It's getting dark out and I just feel this pool to walk down the beach. I can't explain it. I just knew that we were meant to walk down the beach one last time. So I convinced my mom, we start walking. And all of a sudden this lady yells to us and she says, look at this. Come over here and look at this. And she's on this sandbank. And we walk over to her and there's this starfish and she's picked it up in her hands and she's saying, do you think this is dead? I don't know. Like it looks. Dead. I'm not sure I was gonna take it home with me. I'm just not sure. Like, do you think it's dead? Mm-hmm. And we're looking at it and we're like, yeah, it definitely looks dead, but like, don't take it home unless you're gonna bleach it and do all the things. Yeah. You know? Um, so she's like, yeah, I just don't know. I'm not sure I'm gonna leave it. So we move on. It was like a weird encounter, but we move on. Yeah. We're, we're walking along the sandbank and a little ways down we see another starfish, which I've never found a starfish at the beach, um, ever. No, but it's not dawning on us. I'm not thinking back to the star that Gina drew on her paper. Like none of that is dawning on me. And you needed a, a signer sand. Um, but this one is clearly alive. It's bright, it's moving. We're admiring it. And we're just like, oh, how cool. After a couple seconds or whatever, we keep walking. We come across another starfish again. This one's beautiful. It's clearly alive. It's moving. And we're just like, wow. How cool. You know that we've seen three starfish. We've never seen one before at the beach. And here we are seeing three of them. So we, again, nothing's dawning on us. We start walking back and the same lady is yelling at us like, Hey, hey, guess what? Come over here. Guess what? And it's again this odd thing, you know, we're like, what is this lady like? What is wrong with that? Yeah. And she says, that starfish, it's not dead. Look at it, it's not, it looked dead, but it's not. It's definitely alive. And we're just like, okay, lady, cool. You know, and so we're still not worried about your starfish. And so we go back up to the room and we're sitting there and. Me and my mom were having a glass of wine, and of course Dana comes up and how much we wished that, she could be on that trip with us. And it just dawned on us. That? Mm-hmm. Wow. That was like a message from Dana. She told us that she was gonna be here on this trip with us. Mm-hmm. Um, we saw three Starfish. That Day, just like she said that. Three people would be on the trip. Two of them were clearly alive and one of them looked to be dead. But really it wasn't, it was almost like this symbolism for, I told you I was here with you. I know you don't believe it because it looks like I'm not here, but I am. I'm not really gone. I'm right here. And so, yeah, it was just this. Moment of Wow. This seemed like just a direct message from her. So yeah, I just, I wanted to share that one, especially because it meant so much to us to be on this Mother's Day trip and to not only know that she was there with us because of your words, but then for that also to transpire as like this proof of it, was just wow.

gina 1:01:16

Wow. I never get to experience this type of in depth validation to a reading and for it to be over someone that's so special to both of us is just,

kim 1:01:30

mm-hmm.

gina 1:01:31

I'm over the moon about it, so thank you. Thank you, thank you.

kim 1:01:35

Absolutely. of all the things that you told me, it wasn't all of the things that you got right, that sit with me to this day. Yes. It was proof that this was real, but just like you spoke about earlier, it was what you told me that couldn't be proven. That was so beautiful. When you spoke to the relationship between my sister and I and the fact that when Dana came through, she was smiling, she was radiant. She was at peace. You described her as though she was standing on a beach with the wind blowing through her hair and you know, when we talked about her kids, you talked about yes, she was getting emotional talking about her children, but even in those moments you clarified that she was at peace with what happened, that this was her timeline, but that. She would be there for her kids every step of the way, guiding them. And for me, this reassurance that she was okay, that she was at peace and happy, it meant everything to me. You described these moments that she was with us, with her children, you know, sitting right beside us, and this brought me so much peace at a time that I was really, really struggling. But I wanna know from you. With everything that you've seen and heard, what does happen when someone dies? Where do they go? And most importantly, like how can we communicate with them ourselves? How can we still continue that relationship?

gina 1:03:01

Okay. I am gonna try not to get super emotional, but I already am. Yeah. Um, yeah. So the best way for me to describe what happens when someone crosses over is my own personal experience of God gave me a peak of what happens when you cross over and what transpires when my aunt passed away. And I was the only person in the hospital room while she was coding and being worked on, and I was given this feeling and this visual of her soul, kind of like a, a kind of like an apparition of her coming out of her body, just like on the movie Ghost. Okay. And she came and stood right next to me. And I knew in that moment that she was, she crossed over and that she was not gonna be saved with the, with the, um, you know, the work that the nurses were doing and. I didn't know it then, but through this process and my process lasted about a year. Now, this year long process is not, this is not a code for every single person that goes into heaven, but this could be kind of like a blueprint of what transpires. During this, during the first month, it was almost as if I was in a fog. So for us, while we're living, it's like you're in grief, right? You're in that fog of grief. But for my aunt that was in the spirit world, she had this fogginess also, and. It was this transitional period of I'm not living and I'm still figuring out what's going on. And I was in this fog and then all of these questions started coming up, of these questions about my aunt's life started coming up. So I got the feeling of, okay, she's in communication with God, of what are all the things that she did right in life, and what are all the things that she did wrong in life? And those questions kind of came up. So then I was like, okay, maybe this is like a transitional period of her getting used to the spirit world. So just like when we move into a new house, what it takes us like a good three to six months to feel comfortable, like it's our home. They go through that transitional period too, of, I'm feeling a little bit outta sorts, like I'm good, but like I'm still figuring out how the spirit world works. In that first month. And then about a few months later, I had a dream of my aunt and she was sitting next to my mom on a couch, and my mom is living, but my aunt was sitting next to my mom and she was explaining to me that she can walk now and that the doctors in the spirit world fixed her up and she can walk everywhere. And my aunt had a disease called scleroderma, where basically your organs turned to stone and it was very painful for her to do minimal tasks, let alone go on a walk. And so when she said that, I was like, okay, there's some kind of healing process that takes place on your soul. Once you cross over into the spirit world, but mind you, this does not mean that they have to go through a process for me to connect with them. Okay? Because I connected with my aunt while her heart was still beating. While she was coding on the table. Mind you, okay, so it doesn't, there's not a, a, a common question is how long do I have to wait until I get a reading after my loved one passes? And what I say is, give yourself time to grieve organically. Then come and see me. Mm-hmm. But sometimes spontaneously, it happens to where I read for someone and their loved one passes away the day before and they didn't even set up the reading for that. And I bring them through, but they'll still go through this process of I'm figuring things out and then I go through this healing. That God is giving me. So probably healing elements of the soul of what they did right, what they did wrong, physicality, things like that. And then they go on to their mission. Of what are they gonna do while they're in the spirit world? Because you don't sit on a cloud and, and, you know, string a harp. In my experience, like I have never seen an angel in heaven stringing a harp. Never like you are given a mission and an assignment of you're either gonna do some work about, like, work with the angel. You're gonna take care of your loved ones that are still living. You're gonna guide someone you are given a mission to handle at that point. And so that process after you cross over, you know, it's not a straight line, but them relearning how to live in a spiritual form. And so I think it's, I think that looking at it from that standpoint is super special of they don't just go someplace and disappear. They go someplace and their energy is still stuck to you, like glue, and they're still there guiding you and loving you always.

kim 1:08:51

Yeah.

gina 1:08:52

Synergy

kim 1:08:52

can neither be created nor destroyed. We know that. Amen. Scientifically so. And we will be talking about that as well soon. So yes. Wonderful. Well thank you so much for your time today, Gina. Um, I appreciate you so much. I appreciate everything you do and I absolutely would encourage anybody who's looking for some guidance, looking for some peace to reach out to you. And, uh, if you wanna reach out to Gina, her information is in the show notes below.

gina 1:09:19

Thank you, Kim. Love you. Love you, love you. Thank you so much. We'll see you guys next time.