Sn 2, Ep 8 - Collapse Timelines: Human Design Guide To Intuition w/ Lauren McGaughey

What if the life you’re meant to live is already waiting for you… and the only thing standing in the way is learning how to listen to yourself?

In this powerful and soul-expanding episode of The Charmed Life Project, Gina sits down with intuitive teacher, writer, and human design expert Lauren McGaughey for a conversation that will completely shift the way you think about intuition.

Lauren shares her journey from living totally disconnected from her inner voice to stepping fully into her psychic gifts, helping women collapse timelines between who they are and who they’re becoming. And trust us — it wasn’t always smooth sailing. Rock bottoms, people-pleasing, conditioning, and motherhood all played a role in the awakening.

Together, Gina and Lauren dive into the magic of Human Design, revealing how your energetic blueprint holds the key to understanding how your intuition actually speaks to you. (Hint: it’s not the same for everyone.)

You’ll discover:

✨ Why “trust your gut” is actually wrong advice for many people
✨ The 5 Human Design types and how they impact your energy
✨ The surprising ways your body communicates intuition
✨ How your strongest intuitive sense might already be guiding you
✨ Why environment and energy spaces can unlock your inner knowing
✨ The power of group energy and spiritual community
✨ What it means to have faith beyond logic (and why it changes everything)

This episode is equal parts spiritual awakening, practical insight, and best-friend soul chat — the kind that leaves you thinking “Oh… THAT’S why my life works the way it does.”

If you’ve ever wondered how to trust yourself more, understand your intuitive gifts, or align with the life you’re meant to live, this conversation will open doors you didn’t even know existed.

And stick around until the end — Gina and Lauren share a special surprise for listeners that you won’t want to miss. 👀✨

Transcript

gina 1:40

Oh my gosh. Welcome back to another episode of the Charmed Life Project. I am so excited because I am here with a very special guest. Her name is Lauren McGahey. She's an intuitive, a writer, a teacher. She supports women to collapse. Timelines between who they are and who they are becoming. Lauren, welcome to the Charm Life Project. Welcome welcome. I'm so pumped that you are here.

lauren 2:13

Yay. Thank you. I mean, that was just Thanks. What an intro. What an intro. I'll live up to it, I promise.

gina 2:19

Absolutely. I just wanna go straight into this. Lauren and I have known each other for the better part of a decade to all different capacities of life in all different relationships. Right girl.

lauren 2:34

Uh, it's been a journey. We've got to see each other through it all. I love it.

gina 2:38

Yes. Yes, so now Lauren and I are working together. We are putting on an amazing half day retreat in Lexington, Kentucky. Intuition activation. I want Lauren to tell us all about her. I know all about her. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with her page and her writing. Everything about the way that she lives her life. But I'm gonna let Lauren tell you a little bit about what she does, what she offers, and who she's all about.

lauren 3:06

Wow. Thank you. Okay. So I am a psychic reader and I am somebody that is very into human design. I do chart readings, I do energy readings, and it has been just such a joy and so magical to step into this. But I need to give a caveat that. Probably the me 10 years ago that you first met was so far from this path. So first off, thank you because I think a long time you just, you saw it in me, you were like, she's gonna get there. It's just gonna take her some time and time. It did, but I think it all has paid off in the most beautiful way, the right timing but we had a journey to get here. Yes. So I have all that to say. I am so excited for our workshop that we have that's all around intuition. One of the beautiful aspects of that is that I had an. No idea what intuition was. I was living so far off from my intuition and now here we are. It's like such a healing journey and I wanna say that if I can understand my intuition, then you can, again, I was so far from living An aligned path to get here now is just such a beautiful testament and I just want to wrap everybody in a big hug and say, let's get you there. Let's get you to the place that you wanna be in life. So yeah,

gina 4:22

Girl, first off of you have had this in you, you're a natural medium, you're a natural intuitive. From the moment I met you, I clung to you. And, I love this girl. We think the same, we like the same things. I remember us being at the top of Tom's Thumb in Scottsdale, Arizona. We hiked up to the top and I remember thinking oh my God, this girl is the bee's knees. I just wanna know, what do you think is the biggest thing that got you from point A to point Z from not acknowledging your intuition at all whatsoever, and now you fully stepped into it and this is your career.

lauren 5:02

I think as many of you all know, we hit rock bottoms. I absolutely hit a rock bottom. I've had multiple on my journey, and I won't hide that aspect at all. It took me a while to wake up. It was I had to have a succession of them to realize. I am not living inherently in alignment I am living based off of all the conditioning that I have grown up to believe. All of the limiting beliefs, narratives from, my close friends, my family, just, the world in itself. And I had to really pause and say, this isn't working. It just straight up isn't working. And life has to be easier. Life has to be more fun. Life has to be more magical. I don't want it to feel this way. It took. Rock bottoms to get there. But finally I woke up and I was like, no more. And in that decision of no more, I had to say, okay how do I even figure out what I want? I was the classic person that if you ask, I could never answer. I just, mm-hmm. This is such a fun analogy, but in Runaway Bride with, julia Roberts, she dates all of these guys, and I'm not saying in relationships, but she dates all these guys and they finally are like, you don't even know what kind of eggs you like, you don't even know what kind of eggs you like. And so she goes on this journey of making all of these different eggs to finally be like, this is the type of eggs that I like. And I had to go on that journey because. I truly did not know how to listen to myself and what my desires were. And then they started growing a little bit louder. A little bit louder, and I started to recognize my inner voice from what I was told to believe what others were saying. And it took years, like it truly took years. And I don't say that to, be discouraging to anybody. I say that because I took the long path and it doesn't have to be the long path. True.

gina 6:48

I feel that so deeply in my heart because When I was growing up, my mom used to tell me what a hardhead I was, and I had to do things the hard way. I had to figure it out for myself, you couldn't tell me. If you gave me the key to something, I'd be like, that's great that's the key, but I need to figure this out for myself. It is what I hear you saying is your journey moving away from people pleasing because when you people please, it's oh, where do you wanna go to dinner? Wherever you wanna go. So you completely detach from your wants, your needs, and as long as everybody else is good, then I'll be okay. It's one of those trauma responses that a lot of us have from childhood of. Okay. We're just gonna manage the energy. As long as everybody's good, I'm good. And I used to think it was because I was so laid back, which is freaking hilarious. I was like, I'm the most laid back person ever. I don't care. Whatever. Yes, I am laid back. But yes, it's also a trauma response. Same girl, same. Worked on that same exact journey. I am super, super interested we're doing this workshop together, intuition activation. You are gonna be diving into human design in a way that. I have not seen before. Human design is beyond me. It's not my thing. I don't know anything about it, so you're gonna have to guide me through, with human design in the way that you're doing it or the way that you explained it to me and I was like, yes girl, let's do a workshop around this. You're gonna tune into human design and what it means for your intuition. But what I really wanna know is how did human design find you? Or how did you find it? What's the story there?

lauren 8:41

It found me no other way to describe it besides, it found me, and here's what I wanna say. It has been, it was the first step in my journey to breaking everything down in my life and figuring out what was true for me. I have to tell you, when it first came to me, I am what's called a projector, and I'll get into what all that means. But I'm a projector and so I read my chart and I was like, well, crap. Honestly, everything that it's saying, I am living the total opposite. I am the not self, I am the misaligned version. I was mad, I was mad at reading my chart Okay, well my life doesn't look like that so great. How do I get from what I'm reading, what I'm understanding, how do I actually apply that in my life? I kind of picked it up. I some, a very close friend shared it with me. I picked it up, I read it. It was intriguing enough, I set it to the side and then things started getting a little bit more clunky. I entered motherhood to be completely honest with you, you get the fire lit once you have kids. I've gotta figure this out. It's not just for me anymore, it's for, this child as well. I picked it back up and my relationship with it just like dove from there. I have to say I nerd out. It is fascinating to me. I can't stop diving in deeper and deeper. I don't even know how to hold back at this point when I'm reading charts because I just love it so much. A breakdown of what it is and then you said, what we're gonna explore in the workshop. Human design, it pulls in a bunch of different teachings. It is Kabbalah, it is arching, it is astrology. It pulls it all together into this newer system.

gina 10:11

Hold on. Wait. It has Kabbalah in etching in it. Okay, so little side note story. I had a Buddhist teacher at the age of 18, Dr. Rebecca Martin. She's passed in the spirit world now. Love her so much. She was my first spiritual teacher and she taught me the e ch. It, you just made me think of her and obviously you all are not seeing my energy, but I lit up hearing it. That was a big influence in my life as a late teen. And then girl, you're rapping in Kabbalah also, if you know me, I preach how much Kabbalah has changed my life. I practice it every moment of every day. It is so life changing. Okay, so now that you have my. Full attention, go back in full

lauren 11:01

attention. Okay, so this system, why I love it is because. It basically teaches you how your energy shows up in the world, how you operate, how people receive you. Okay? So it is just all about your energetic blueprint and how you can walk through life in an aligned way. Love this. From a very broad perspective, I like to explain it this way because most people know astrology, right? They know that there are. 12 zodiacs, or they might at least know theirs. I'm an Aries, you are a Pisces. And people are like, great, this is my Zodiac. This is what it's, but as we know, no two Pisces are the same. No two Aries are the same. We know the broad level. But then there's so much nuance in the charts. I wanna preface that it's the same way for human design. There are what's called five types, which would be. Kind of like the zodiacs, there's five different types, but everybody is so different underneath of that. You're gonna have this main energy type that you resonate with, that's yours, that have a lot of similar characteristics, but then there's a lot of nuance from there. I do wanna preface that. The five main types, there are generators, which is what you are. There are manifestors. There are manifesting generators, which is a combination, then there are projectors and reflectors.

gina 12:21

Ooh, okay. I'm in it.

lauren 12:23

Yes. If you wanna go and find what yours are, one of the most phenomenal teachers, it's who I started following. I think she breaks it down in such a beautiful way, is Jenna Zoe, you can go to my human design.com, put your birth time in'cause it's all based on your birth time and where the planets are still just like astrology and you can go get your chart and find out what your type is.

gina 12:41

Perfect. Thank you for that. Thank you for funneling people into that chart. Let's do a little plug for your website so people can book

lauren 12:51

of course, you can find me. I'm Lauren, L-A-U-R-N, dot mahy, which is so hard. M-C-G-A-U-G-H-E-Y on Instagram. I have all my links where you can come and find me. Wonderful. Okay, so we have the types right? And that's what you identify with. I am not gonna run through them. Let's just go with your chart for right now

gina 13:10

let's do my chart and tell people a little bit all about me while I'm learning.

lauren 13:17

You are a generator, which you're such a perfect example because generators make a majority of the population, they're the largest percentage around 50%. Hopefully a lot of people can identify, i'm a generator too. Again, you are gonna be different from anybody else, but let's just talk about generators. Here is one of the reasons I love. Generators when they are doing the thing that lights them up when they are doing the thing that they love, they are so wildly magnetic. It is a ripple. If you are in your lane, in your passion in your thing, you could go for hours, you are just so lit up, your aura just expands to everybody. You are an inspiration to another person. Now I need to go find what my thing is.'cause I just, I want that energy, it's so magnetic. Freaking beautiful. I love it. It's majority, it's the larger percentage of the population, a lot of generators are not in the thing that they love. We could truly change the world. If we could get generators to find the thing that is their thing that they love, that they wanna pour into, that is their gift because it's gonna be such a fast ripple. Because you all are a larger percentage of the population and we could literally change the world just like that. I think it's why so many people are drawn to you you're such a light worker. They they see you in your lane, the thing that lights you up that you love. And then. They wanna be brought into it. Or they wanna go find theirs from there and they trust you because you found your thing. Let me help you find it.

gina 14:43

Oh, that is so me. That is absolutely. So me, I love

lauren 14:49

this. Yes.

gina 14:49

Okay.

lauren 14:50

It is just, it is your signature. So you are a generator. From there, everything gets nuanced and different. What I am teaching when it comes to our workshop is specifically on intuition. I think I take a different approach in philosophy that some people may not take when it comes to reading the charts, but there are so many ways you can read in your human design chart how your intuition speaks to you. Where in your body, what it sounds how it comes to you, so that you can better make decisions and have clarity from your inner knowing, not from what somebody else is saying, but from your inner knowing. It's so freaking cool. I do wanna place one caveat, not to get too technical, I just wanna honor what human design is. Technically intuition is dedicated to one part of the body, which would be your spleen. That is the first primary spot intuition has lived. Think our ancestors, they were instinctual, they were pro, they had to run away when there was threat, they had to have instinct, they had to have intuition.

gina 15:52

Is that for me specifically, or is that for everybody?

lauren 15:55

It's not, so that's why I wanna explain it for a second. So we're gonna talk about intuition, but I wanna be really clear, in the system, intuition is technically tied to the spleen. I am talking about intuition as inner knowing, as our clarity as our inner voice. I just wanted to separate that. In your chart, you can figure out how your intuition and your clarity or inner knowing is speaking to you most, and that is through what's called your authority. There are seven different types of authorities, and here's where this gets so cool that I wanna connect it for you right now. When we talk about intuition, I think that we're advancing in our understanding of what intuition is, but for the longest time we've been told trust your gut. I cannot tell you how inaccurate that actually would be for most people. But that's also where the frustration lies. They're heard, trust your gut, and then they're like, my gut's not saying anything to me. Something must be wrong. I don't know how to listen to myself. They're not getting that instinct I don't know how to connect with my intuition. I don't know what's true or what's not true. It's because that's not how your body speaks to you. Isn't that crazy?

gina 17:01

That's nuts because, when you think about your gut and the vagus nerve and your fight or flight, it's from the gut all the way up. I've heard people talk about this. First off, I've been doing a deep dive on the spleen and acupuncture, and a client of mine is super into it. So I've been getting into it and they have said the same thing that they get intuition from their spleen, I don't even know what that freaking means. I'm like, what does that mean?

lauren 17:31

The way that you can understand authority is you're decision maker. How do I make decisions that is inherently from myself and not from what the outside world has told me? There's seven different ones. It doesn't just lie hilarious enough. You are sacral, which would be gut. We'll talk about it. And then I am spleen, which it's just funny that we're talking about those examples, but there's other ones. There's mental, which would be, your head, there's ego there is lunar based. There's a lot. I don't need to go into them. We can go into those later. Let's talk about our for a second though. You are truly gut. Sacral area is your gut, so when people have said, trust your gut, it was true for you. Love that. I wanna take it a step further in human design the way your gut speaks to you, I think I can help bring some, clarity so it speaks in full black and white. There is no gray, there is no middle area. So it is either a Uhhuh or a Uhuh. That's it.

gina 18:26

Facts,

lauren 18:26

yeah. Facts. Facts,

gina 18:28

yes.

lauren 18:28

Because that is your authority. That is how it shows up. It's gonna show up in your gut and it is truly gonna be ahuh. Or an Uhuh and that's it. Beautiful for spleen, for me does not show up that way at all. It doesn't show up in the gut. It shows up in the spleen. I chose a hard one. My soul did, at least. It is not loud, it is instantaneous in the moment and it does not come back. I have to be a really good listener. Splenic authorities have to be really good listeners. You will get an instantaneous knowing whether it's logical or whether it's not, and you either. Heard it or you didn't hear it and it doesn't come back to remind you oh, remember like this was our decision. It's just this instantaneous knowing. If I was told my whole life, trust your gut, and I'm trusting my gut could feel fearful, it could feel queasy, it could feel excited, but is that true? That's how my body is speaking to me. Again, it doesn't come back. I have to be a really good listener. Once you connect with it, it gets easier though, I'll tell you that.

gina 19:25

I have to say like I've had so many experiences early on with my intuition and even when my intuition changes,'cause it changes every couple of years and heightens and expands that what you're speaking to instantaneous, boom. It's a knowing and then it disappears, and then you're like, where does it go? That's how some of my intuitive hits come in, where it's just that quick and it's like, what was that? And then it is gone. Now. I've been able to slow whenever I feel it, I can slow the pace down, but I get what you're saying.

lauren 20:02

Yeah, so another one that would be a larger percentage of the population would be emotional. So they have an emotional authority. They cannot make decisions instantaneously because they are, they have to ride an emotional wave. I like to think of it as dials versus waves. A lot of people will say waves though. You could be presented with a client comes, they propose a project. You need to ride your emotional wave before you make a decision of a yes or a no. Because you could have had a really crappy day, just a hard day, and you're not feeling, you're feeling emotional over that situation, not the client. And you'd be making decisions based off of a loan or you could get really excited but not have thought through the process yet. And you made a decision like in an in excitement, and then you thought about it and you're like, Ooh, that process is. Kind of clunky. I don't like the timelines, whatever it might be. A lot of people are emotional. I like to think of it as dials. When you're really excited, the dial's turned up, you can't really hear yourself'cause the dial's turned up. Or you could be like in a low vibrational state and the dial is turned down and you could be excited about something. Just in that moment, you couldn't be, does that make sense?

gina 21:08

That makes total sense. I, yeah. I completely understand that.

lauren 21:12

You have to come to a neutral place before making that yes or no decision. But what happens is a lot of emotional people make a decision on the high or the low, and then they have to carry it out, They sign the contract, they took the client, they did the thing, this is not what I wanted. I'm not vibing with it. I'm not happy. Trust your gut or that instantaneous knowing is not true for them. That's why I love this system because it takes out this homogenized way of everybody is this one size fits all. It's not. It's not. We need to learn how our body is speaking to us when we can figure that out and connect with it more. It's. Easier to make decisions. It's easier to know. It is our inner knowing, our intuition, that it is leading the way and not fear or projection or anything like that.

gina 21:58

I am completely fascinated because whenever I do group classes, events, retreats, there's various different types of intuitives, and in the past I've, I have categorized people in two different areas, feelers and sea. There's so much more than that, maybe I should start requiring people to look into their human design, look into their charts, work with you first, and then come to my events. Come to my classes, come to my retreats, and feel. Out and know how to take into the information, know how to feel out the information. I feel that would be such a good support system for people coming into my work and doing that type of thing.

lauren 22:47

100%. I wasn't even gonna go here, I nerd out. I have to bring one aspect of this chart in again. You have what's called your strongest sense as well in human design. There are. Six. There's six different ones, but technically 12.'cause there's like a flavor to them. The opposite. For instance, and I'm gonna tell you because it was very profound and impactful when I was stepping into my psychic abilities in mediumship, my strongest sense is outer vision. So it's seeing it's eyes, when I stepped into the mediumship space, my messages first came through as my strongest sense, which was all visuals. Now I have developed further beyond that. I can have that instantaneous knowing. I can even have feeling like parts of my body will light up if I'm doing medical mediumship or something like that. It first came through in the most natural way for me, my strongest sense, which was. Outer vision, which was seeing, which is what my, other job has been. I think it also helps ease people in as they're developing their abilities and trying to figure it out. There is one way that you are most profound in, and then you'll probably adopt the rest of the Claire's, it might come in a certain way at first. For you, yours is smell, and I know that sounds funny, but your strongest sense is smell, which is discernment. Okay. Yes it is. Smells like you gotta, you got a good sniffer. I don't know how to say that.

gina 24:06

You guys, my mouth just dropped open. You have no idea how strongly this resonates. If you've had any readings with me, I always bring through scents. When I'm doing mediumship, but years ago someone told me and gave me this discernment message. If it smells off, it is off. I've talked about this with another client as well, he can smell when something is physically wrong with someone. I can also. Smell is such a guiding force for me. It's super, super interesting.

lauren 24:44

What I would encourage you, there, it's so nuanced, but I would specifically encourage you when you are connecting with spirit, if you're doing something like that. If you can bring in the power of smell, which you probably already do, whether it's saging or incense or you light a candle, it's gonna activate you and turn you on even faster. Connect to spirit.

gina 25:01

Mouth dropped open even more so if I just think about my normal every day, human living life without my intuition or work or anything, I am obsessed with things smelling fresh. Totally makes sense.

lauren 25:17

That discernment. You have this discernment of somebody's energy before they ever speak, open their mouth, anything like that. You feel their presence and you can have a discernment. Is this coming from like good intentions or not good intentions? You can nail it on the head with that, so it's really cool. What we're also doing within the workshop that I wanna bring up. Obviously that was like a fun side tangent is a lot of people may not know their strongest sense yet, one their mind's blown open and they're like, oh wow, my body's speaking to me in a different way. I've gotta figure out how to connect with that, but then don't know my strongest sense. There's so much information here. What do I do? I am such a environment your place, your space. Is energy outside of yourself, I don't know where to begin, this is where I would tell you to go, which is your environment, Your environment. There are six different ones, but again, 12, because there's the opposites, if you cannot connect to my inner knowing, I cannot connect to my intuition. I'm trying, but life is hard. The mental monkey mind has taken over. Get yourself in your environment and it will calibrate your nervous system for you. Then everything is a bit calmer and you can hear that intuition more. That's why I think it's so cool. You do not have to physically live in that environment, but if you could take a trip there or you could try and bring it into your week, that's what would be really important. Yours is so funny'cause you're just gonna be right off the bat. Yours is shores so beaches? Yeah.

gina 26:41

Hold on. Wait. Did you say

lauren 26:42

shores? Shores, Pisces baby water.

gina 26:45

Duh.

lauren 26:45

Okay.

gina 26:46

Duh.

lauren 26:46

There's two different flavors to each, there's natural shores and there's manmade shores. I'm not trying to get too technical, I'm just giving you as an example. What that means are natural shores. Shores are where things converge, sand meets water, like a bank is really good for you. This is natural already occurring in the world. Other people that still have shores will have manmade shores. Things that connect. It could be neighborhoods that connect. It could be seeing tall skyscrapers and then right next to it seeing housing and stuff like that. It's two things converging, but it's manmade. It's things that, because you're interested in the way man has evolved. The world has evolved and seeing things come together. Yours is truly, it's why you love the beaches. It's why you love water. It's why Lilydale is like such a special place to you, for you, if you're in a funk. I can't hear myself, I'm disconnected. I know that's not you, but I'm just giving the example. Yes. Then I would say, if you have the feasibility, go and get in your environment. Go try and take a beach trip, take a weekend outing. Go sit by a creek or a pond. Do just something about like shores and that converging, and then sit there. Let your nervous system calibrate and then you'll have a better ability to hear your intuition speaking to you.

gina 28:02

What I'm really hearing is that I must move to the beach asap. That is what all I heard was wah w move to the beach,

lauren 28:14

move to the. For me, for example mine is what's called a market. So an external market specifically is mine. It's where ideas are being shared, there's trade happening, there's things going on. I am an entrepreneur, but I'm a solo entrepreneur, majority of my day is spent. Inside my home by myself. Then I'm wondering, why am I not inspired? Why am I creatively blocked? Why am I not connecting with my intuition more? I live that way for a really long time because I am meant to be in a place where there's an exchange happening, If I can't live in it, that's okay, but can I bring that aspect into my life more? Whether that is going on a trip or whether that's. Going to a coffee shop because there's things happening, going to a market, going on Saturdays shopping around and seeing vendors and different things like that inspires me and makes it click for me to be more. Myself to then hear the intuition. So everybody's is different and it's really cool.

gina 29:14

Ah, it's so cool. What do you think, since starting your practice in human design to now how has it changed your life? What is the biggest way that it has changed your life?

lauren 29:28

I would like to say for myself, but motherhood. I just wanna be honest about that, or maybe it clicked for me the most, that it was time to not only figure myself out, but to help my kids was through human design. I love the dynamic of parent child because here I am,, which many of us are, we're young kids that get conditioned to operate in a certain way that might be in misalignment, Then we grow up as adults, not knowing our inner self. Not knowing how to listen to ourself, not knowing how to make decisions. People pleasing all the time, then you get to a point where I can no longer live this way. I think it is such a beautiful tool that has come in this day and age for all of these intuitive children that are also coming through so that we don't dampen their light and we cultivate the uniqueness of them. My hope is that they'd have an easier road than I, but just so that I can connect and pour into them with their gifts, along with what my gifts are, and hopefully raise that next generation so we have more lightworkers. Yeah,

gina 30:26

that is so beautifully said because my next question was how did this change your family? And you just intuitively answered all of it. What I think would be really great for people is not only booking sessions with you, for them. Selves, but also having you do charts for their children as well. Because you're absolutely right. The day and age of indigo children and rainbow children and crystalline children. And if you don't know what those terms are, Google those terms'cause they're so interesting. This next generation of light workers and us as intuitive. Women bearing children or adoptive children, or having intuitive children in general, this will help you parent that much more unconditional and loving and nourishing so that they don't end up conditioned like us.

lauren 31:25

Let's be so honest. To save your sanity. We will show up and be the perfect mothers. There's so much pressure on it. It has given so much permission in my relationships with my kids, but also how I approach my kids because even if you did not know this system at all, you can understand that if you have more than one kid, if you have two kids, three kids, none of them are the same. None of them are the same. What you did with the first just is not gonna work for the second, but you try. You try and do exactly what worked with the first and do it with the second, and then oh my gosh, they're not listening to me. I'm playing into the stereotypes of course, the funny, second child, of course. But it truly changed that because my approach is not gonna work with this kid, and so I've gotta meet this other child in the way that works for them because I also don't wanna dampen. What may be hard aspects of that child is such a strength that they will have later on, I have to have a different approach with both of them and it saved a lot of headache and I needed that. Before, I would like to say that it was, it transformed my life and it did from a personal perspective. What lit me on fire to get going was for them. And it's time to look at myself. I'm looking at my kids'cause I wanna do everything to help my kids. It's time to look at myself as well because they deserve A mom who is in alignment, is happy, and is living true to them because we are the beacon for them to choose to do the same.

gina 32:57

This is absolutely the perfect segue and I love that we got to talking about your kiddos because you recently signed up for the year of the fire horse retreat. You're going to Lily Dale with me. Yay. I am. I'm so excited. I'm so pumped. I know how busy you are. You are slammed, you are busy. You are a wife, you're an entrepreneur, you have two kids. All of this pressure is on you. How did you make the decision to take five days off and come on this retreat? What was the ignition? What was your thought process

lauren 33:37

this has been years in the making, but there were two big drivers. I'm gonna share both of them. One being that many mothers can understand this, and, sorry, I'm speaking just to mothers, I think women in, ourselves are just self-sacrificial. Whether you're in a relationship, not, we give and give to others and very rarely do we fill our own tank up and we forget that. If we have abundance in us, we can pour over more. We can give more, but for the longest time, I was last man on the totem pole. Especially in my family, give to everybody else. Give to my clients, don't give to Lauren. And that wasn't sustainable. I hit a burnout, I hit a block. I've had to really work on not only understanding that investment in me is going to help decrease burnout, but investment in me is actually equally a gift to those around me. That took years of understanding because I was never comfortable with. Doing something for myself, but now I cannot shake the fact that I know investing in myself makes me a better wife, a better mother, a better entrepreneur, a better spiritual teacher, I have been stepping into, over the past year, it's taken a long time, but over the past year, investing in myself more so that I can have this overabundance to give more.

gina 34:54

Yes. Like your cup runneth over and it runneth over into your actual family. I am curious like what drew you to my retreat specifically?

lauren 35:09

Okay, I will answer that. This other piece feels really important for a second. Sorry, I just got this like intuitive hit

gina 35:16

Love an intuitive hit.

lauren 35:17

This other aspect is doing things in group, in circle manifesting together the energy that is in retreats, that is in group programs, et cetera. I cannot tell you the momentum that takes off when. Everybody is collectively working to better themselves. You take such bigger strides you actually, because you have this accountability, you have this energy and inertia when you're sitting together that just makes things happen faster than doing it alone. I told you I was an entrepreneur, a solopreneur, doing everything alone. Last year was my first year that I even ventured into doing a group program, my entire life over less than a year, has transformed greatly. I've been a part of a lot of your classes. My gifts have increased because I'm practicing them with people more. I am connected and invested in that, and then people are seeing things in me and I want I, something about that felt really important to say, because I know that's gonna be there at this retreat. Is this group coming together for everybody to rise? And I know that walking away from it, i'm collapsing timelines I'm getting there quicker because we're doing it together.

gina 36:34

Oh, so, so beautiful. Yeah, it's mind mapping when you get. Two or more people together. The capability of our minds and our mind mapping and blending energy and pulling everybody up together is such a beautiful experience. So yes, we're gonna have loads of that. Sister, I can't wait for you to experience it. Oh,

lauren 36:56

why this retreat? Right? Why this retreat?

gina 36:58

Yes. Why this one? Why this one? Why with me? Why Lily Dale, tell me all your whys.

lauren 37:05

First off, I just, obviously, I adore you. You have created and you continue to always create such safe spaces for people to see their potential and step into it and the way you steward, and just provide the support, unmatched. Thank you. You have the heart there. We need more heart and more spaces like that, so I'll just leave it at that. I'm excited for the fire horse year and I think that's what, this is my first ever retreat. I'll be completely, open and honest about it. I, of course, in this timing though, I am an Aries, I am fiery in itself and I knew this year was gonna be a lot. I just dismantled my entire life. Snake gear, tooth, the tee stripped everything, everything possible.. Sold our house, put everything in boxes. I took my kids outta school. I am starting a second business. Here we are, here we go. Traveling everywhere I listened, I did the job. Sure. For letting the snake year strip everything. And now it's about what is this momentum gonna be? How can I carry that energy forward yes, I, there's so much about this fire horse year that I lived the calling of the stripping, but now there's this momentum that I really wanna ride and see where life can go and make the most of it. I'm excited to dive in more to my spiritual gifts, my mediumship, my psychic abilities, and I am just pumped that it's all centered around the fire horse because I. I'm just ready to go, I'm ready for this to be the thing. And it just came at a perfect time and also a perfect time because we will just be getting back from Europe. So I'm actually here in the States to do it.

gina 38:42

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Lauren is such a true testament of living out her intuition, she has followed it to a T. She got an inkling to buy this land and then she sold her house, decided to homeschool her kids travel the country. Go outta country. She has this amazing intuitive business, this amazing graphic business, she is just taking everything with the year of the fire horse. Seriously, I am completely thrilled about the year of the fire horse and what it means for me personally and what it means for everyone. I feel the momentum, I'm following the breadcrumbs and this retreat, my breadcrumbs for this retreat is going to be completely different. Yes, every single retreat that I put on is different. I will say that. There's a new group. There's new energy, there's new things that we do, but this one specifically, I've been instructed that the people that are going to come on this retreat are going to be the most amazing powerhouse women, but it is going to feel intuitive luxury, just soaking up the sun and the lake. Air nourishing conversations, it is going to be so, so good. Lauren and I have a very special surprise for you guys. We are going to offer a 50% off code for five. Lucky people. So for the first five people to use this code on my website, gina julian scapino.com, under the Intuition Activation Workshop, the first five people to use the code charmed. Life will receive 50% off of their workshop in Lexington, Kentucky with Lauren and I, there's also another code. So after those first five people use up the 50% off code, I even have a 20% off code with the code charmed. The first code is charmed life for the 50% off. The second code for 20% off is just charmed that is unlimited, and I am only saying these discount codes in this podcast. I'm not advertising them. Only you all get it. Come and be with us in Lexington, Kentucky on March 28th from 11:00 AM to 3:00 PM We can't wait to see you. Lauren, can you tell people how to get in contact with you one more time?

lauren 41:25

Yes, of course. Go to Instagram. I am Lauren, L-A-U-R-E-N, dot McGahey, M-C-G-A-U-G-H-E-Y. And I cannot wait to meet you guys. Can I add one thing? Yes. Can we bring Kabbalah back? Yes. For a second? Yes.

gina 41:38

Bring it back. Okay.

lauren 41:40

I wanna say this. The year that I am on this crazy path that I'm on it really relates back to me first connecting back to my intuition, and so you love Kabbalah. I love Kabbalah. So I wanna say this, I don't know if I'm saying the word right. We always try, I am, I'm not Jewish. The word immuno, okay? It means faith. And I wanna tell you this, it means faith, but not faith in the way that. I think it's packaged, for us to believe this in Kabbalah is really it isn't a shallow kind of faith. It is faith beyond logic and that is my year. It is just this faith beyond logic this way of the guidance. Inside of you, even before proof appears that is like a testament to my year of surrender. Like I'm trusting and I have this intuitive knowing that it's all gonna work out, I have built that up over years, but I wanna say this can be for you as well, if. If you were feeling called to the retreat, if you were feeling called to come to this workshop, if there's well, this isn't logical. I have x, y, Z constraints or anything like that. Trust the faith beyond the logic that you're being called to join us and to come into these spaces because there is something there for you and I cannot wait for you to figure out what that is.

gina 42:50

Oh, I love it. Certainty with not tuning into logic, certainty beyond logic that hits me straight into my soul. Lauren, thank you so much for being on the Charm Life Project. I love you. I adore you. I am so pumped to work with you and do this workshop. I'm even more excited to spend time with you in Lilydale this summer. If you guys enjoyed this episode, like and share, we will see you next week for another episode of the Charm Life Project.