Haunted Dolls, Spirit Boxes: I found a ghost hunter on Facebook

Today we're stepping into the unknown with a paranormal investigator from Life Beyond the Living. We discuss haunted locations, spirit communication, EVP recordings, spirit boxes, haunted dolls, and some of the most unexplained experiences they have encountered during investigations.

Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or somewhere in between, this conversation explores the mysteries that continue to fascinate people around the world.

You can find me as David Monsour a.k.a. Disco Davo on most social media applications as well as my contact 
davidmonsour.com.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

So today's episode might either ruin your sleep schedule or it could convince you that um your smoke detector is possessed. So I found today's guest randomly on Facebook, which is obviously how most horror movies begin. They run Life Beyond the Living, a paranormal investigation platform exploring haunted locations, spirit communications, haunted dolls, which I think we're gonna have a special guest, EV report, EVP recordings, and all the things that you should not be Googling at 2 a.m. And I don't know what half of these words mean, so we're gonna find out. So today we're talking about ghosts and haunted places and the creepy dolls again. So welcome to the show, Tammy and Tammy's partner and I messed it up. Tammy, I forgot your partner's name. Lynn. Lynn. Hey Lynn. So Tammy and Lynn are partners in life as well as in business. So that's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Yep. We've uh known each other for going on 26 years, and we've been married for 10.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

So did you have this in common before? Like, were you both into this before you met, or did y'all develop this together?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

So we never talked about our experiences at first. At first, because it's like, oh, I don't want to be the freak of the it was something kind of hidden we grew into. We grew into to go, hey, did you know?

SPEAKER_03 1:36

That's interesting. So how I guess we might have two different answers then. So how does well let's let's say this what is the first experience that made you realize, oh, okay, I can't explain this.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

I would have to say I was really young and I kind of grew up my backyard, it was Indian burial ground in Cowita. Yeah, yeah, that's a good start. My brother uh decided to mess with one, and you it was very I was it with like a grave, like a yes, uh-huh. Oh wow, okay, yeah, and we were young and we were in the woods and nobody was with us, and you know, all of a sudden he's messing with it, and like out of nowhere, you could just see him levitate.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

And I'm like, what you are lying, you are lying.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

No, I I but that that's the the start of I was I would say that's a start.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

I I was about three or four, and you know, you don't have many memories as a kid of being three or four, and we lived in a house close to a graveyard, and I would tell my mom, can you tell the soldiers to be quiet? I remember vividly seeing like Civil War soldiers, and they would be shaking hands and they'd be talking and they'd keep me up at night. And as a kid, you're trying to rationalize that. You're like, maybe my parents let them in. Maybe my parents know they're here, but my mom was like, honey, what soldiers? I don't I have no clue what you're talking about. So that was the first one for me that I still can't explain.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah. So I've gotten to the part where I'm spending time studying religion. I'm fairly religious. That's a hard word to say, because I still say cuss words and all that stuff. And I'm I'm I'm studying God, and the more I study the Bible and everything, I'm starting to realize how much is is possible that we we all just think it's not.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

So the fact that I believe that's possible that that somebody was levitated, or you saw that because I can't explain everything in this world, no, right, and you know, uh even though we talk to the paranormal or go explore it, I I still believe Jesus Christ walked on this earth. I'm very religious, yet very spiritual.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

I love that. And there's some there's some thought, you know. I my struggles is with reading the Bible and trying to figure out what it what I think it means versus what it means. And I've listened to some podcasts that talk about that you know, people aren't actually going to heaven yet, that heaven is for the resurrection, that people when they die, they are actually still here. They are in the in between. And again, I'm ignorant with all this, I'm learning and reading, but that I was listening to that, I was like, well, that's pretty interesting. That makes a lot of sense that when you die, you're still you're not in heaven yet, because heaven's for the resurrection, that you're kind of in this. I don't know about limbo, but I don't I I don't know how that how to explain that or even if it makes sense to anybody.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

But no, that's completely it's more like purgatory. Yep. You're not in heaven and you're not in hell, you're in no man's land.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

I know I hope that's not true because you know, we all don't want to believe that our our relatives are cats and dogs that have passed away that are just purgatory sounds like a horrible word. So, well, I I want to go back to y'all both a similar I guess experience with graveyards. So I don't know if people consider Pet Cemetery a horror movie. Have y'all seen that?

SPEAKER_01 5:30

I have, yes. I'll be honest, I have one.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

To me, it is the scariest movie ever to me, because just a the guy lives on a main road, and there's, I guess, I don't know how far away from the house, but there's a pet cemetery. And there's an old, I think it might be an Indian guy or whatever, but so the little boy gets killed. Well, before that, they go, their cat gets buried, and the kid goes and buries his cat in the pet cemetery. The pet comes back to life, but they come back evil, of course. And then the guy is just distraught because his little boy gets killed, and he buries the boy in the pet cemetery, and the boy comes back to life, and of course he's evil then, or just not all there, and it is just I think it's the trauma of the thought of losing a child, as well as because it's not overly gory, it's not, you know, it's just uh the movie was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

I have to say, being a mom, the worst horror movie I've seen recently was hereditary. We've never got I could not get past it. Um if you haven't seen it, I won't spoil it. But there's a part in the movie where the son is driving down the road with the daughter in the car, and that whole after that moment, it lost me. I was like, okay, as a parent, this is horrific.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

So I can't deal with that. So all right, so how at what point did y'all decide, hey, let's let's start actually investigating? Would you call it that, or do you just explore? Is it just fun?

SPEAKER_00 7:01

So actually, I call it like hiding seek, tag your it because they came and found me. Now I'm going to find them.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Yeah, we call it our favorite game a tag, because for a long time Len and I had experiences even growing up together that I couldn't explain, she couldn't explain. And we were like, well, why don't we just go look and see what we find? So I guess the answer would be we explore and investigate.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Okay. So on your, I believe it's your either Facebook or TikTok or one of the your pages, what's the name of that?

SPEAKER_00 7:34

So if people log off early, then they'll have what's the name of your Facebook page or your TikTok or Life Beyond the Living, but we also have a website that you can go to lifebeyondtheliving.com, and it has all our social medias at the bottom. Yes. And phone numbers if you have any questions or anything or want to get involved. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Which y'all posted, you know, you you want people to share the their stories with you. I'm sure it's just entertaining you like talking with people that experienced it. But then do y'all go investigate those things?

SPEAKER_01 8:05

If somebody says, I think I might have something in my house, can you come look at we actually have the absolutely, I think there is a bottom line here though. Lynn and I are both studying parapsychology, and we have to determine and make sure that who we're talking to isn't having like auditory hallucinations or some kind of sickness, too. So we do kind of weed that out when we're discussing that and deciding that.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

It's like, are they in spiritual psychosis? That's also a thing, yes.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Wow. Okay, I'm not familiar with that term, but I'm I'm glad you said that because I didn't think about that. I do have some friends that had multiple personality disorder and they had those different things where I know that they really felt like other people were in the room, and and it was just it was a huh, psychosis is the right word, whatever that was that that because medicine cured it.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

I mean, even schizophrenia, you'll know that was the word. I don't know, yeah. That's one that that got me because a lot of people that think there's someone actively following them to harm them constantly, that's where you have to draw the line is is this safe for them or you to bring equipment in and to check things and you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

And there's been quite a few people that have we've talked to and we've met in a public area and we're like, I don't feel safe, so I'm not going to their house to investigate because if I go from public place to private, there's a danger on us.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

I did have a friend with schizophrenia. I should study that, but I I don't have the time and I don't know. But schizophrenia is fascinating because my friend that had schizophrenia said that the person that visited constantly told him to harm other people. Yes, that was a battle, and he was smart enough and early enough to know that it wasn't real, but evidently that's part of the disease that then that line becomes blurred.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Yes, and like my brother, my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And if they're not caught early on and like before 30, the medical institutions or doctors, psychiatrists, they will not actually help you. They just say you have XY of it. I can't diagnose you with this.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

So if you're diagnosed early, we're way off topic, but if you're diagnosed early, can you is it curable? Is that a right word, or is it just medicine?

SPEAKER_00 10:39

No, you you medicate it and it's almost like autism. Autism people learn how to mask it, it's learn how to cope with it.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

I think that was the biggest thing for them is is knowing that it existed, knowing what it was, then he could handle it because then he knew that okay, this was not real.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yes, but to answer your question, yes, we we will definitely go out and investigate. One of our biggest things is we also don't claim that we can find something every time, and that it's we like to try to debunk too.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Okay, oh that that'd be fun too. Yeah, that's good. Well, then I so I was leading to this whole question on on the website. You have for entertainment purposes only. I believe I read that on your side. So is that just a disclaimer that you put on there to protect yourself, or do you feel like this is mostly entertainment?

SPEAKER_00 11:31

No, because I have had spirits come to me in dreams of loved ones that I have no connection whatsoever, that have passed on to give messages so they can move on because I believe that some of their purpose here on earth is they're trying to get a message out, and that's their way of moving on to the higher level.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Getting sucked off, yeah. Okay, if you don't, if you didn't laugh, then you don't you don't watch the show Ghost. Have you seen that show? Okay, that line just makes you funny. He got sucked off. So sorry, I was not being offensive out there, people that's the comment that they say when the ghosts, I guess they kind of linger in the in the ghost show, the TV show, they linger and one person can see them, and then when they actually get wherever they go, they they get sucked off. Now that's my time, I don't even know how else to say it, but that's why I use that word. So while we're talking about that, so how do you separate real experiences from coincidence?

SPEAKER_01 12:41

I think it all has to do with evidence. So if the evidence is consistent, like we did an investigation in a jail house, and one of the things that's very consistent, we all had different smells we were smelling, which was strange because it was like alcohol. We had like a bourbon smell, and then we had our our ghost app.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Were you in Tennessee?

SPEAKER_01 13:09

No, actually, it was here in actually it's in the Cowita County.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

They have a haunted gel or haunted so it's the jail cell that held um John Wayne, uh John John Wallace. Now that you ask me, uh Murders of Cowita.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

I don't know about that. I'm not familiar with it.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

And one of the I think it was John Wallace.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

But he was held in that cell because he was convicted by murder. And of course, it's helped many other, but it's that's why it's so famous that one particular cell. But it's the last thing that actually exists from that.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

It was a 1911 gel house, but it's just the cell that exists now. Yeah and the guy that owns it was lovely, and he agreed to let us come in and do some investigation. And so on our app, we use an app called Ghost Tube. And if you ever use it, just use it with caution, you know, and also think about this: you're gonna get generated answers, so it's not always gonna be consistent with what you're doing. But I would say something along the lines of do you guys smell that? It smells like alcohol, and it would say alcohol or bourbon or something on the app. And I'm like, that's too consistent, and then we would have other things go off during that investigation.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

So phone app that you're using, and listen, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

So we have one phone, like an app on our phone. Like I don't know if you'll be able to see it.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Yeah, so Ghost Tube has several different things, they have almost like a spirit box option, but it also generates words or sometimes sentences.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Yes, and but we also have like a spirit box that does a little more than that because you can't it's going it's going direct like so fast through stations because it that's how they connect through radio stations, but it's a wavelength. And so a spirit box, you're listening to it while it's like super fast.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Yeah, and if you catch words, sometimes they're consistent with what's being asked and things like that. Yeah, but that particular one, I would say there were so many things that just weren't coincidental. Yes. So, and then there's been other times where we were told that somewhere was very haunted and we went in and got just about nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Did it move out or just be like has a ghost ever ignored you?

SPEAKER_01 15:51

Like you think about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

I'm fairly obnoxious, so but I have to say though, it's it's one of those if we go into a place and we know the exact story, I feel like we don't experience as much because we're expecting it.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Right. So I mean the hard part is you'd really I would assume you'd go in everywhere really wanting to see something grand and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Well, also if it puts someone's mind at ease, I would rather find nothing. Yeah. And be like, okay, maybe your refrigerator was making a really weird noise. Or you know, so for me, it's also I don't care if I find something if it puts someone's mind at ease. But if someone's like, hey, this is really cool, you need to see this, and I don't see anything, I'm like, boo.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Are ghosts ever violent?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Have you ever let me knock on wood? No, but I I have to say, like I have to stop you and say there was one time we did a basement for a friend of ours. That wasn't violent, it was terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Uh-huh. There was a difference.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Okay, how was it terrifying? What happened? I want to know.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Well, so we go to the basement for a friend, and we're we have our apps on and everything else. Most of our apps speak English, maybe Spanish, German, we've picked up, but this starts picking up Latin.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

And I'm like, wait, I don't really know what you're saying. We could tell, and it's some of the apps and you know, spirit boxes, they're not supposed to change languages. No, so it doesn't have that feature, which was very odd too. And then as we proceeded to end the investigation abruptly, because the couple got very uncomfortable, and we told them this was a a bit beyond what we do.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah. I I can't say I go into a house and cleanse it. I I yes, I have Indian background. I'm Dakota Sioux, and she's Cherokee, but we're still studying. I'm not quite there yet. I'm not there yet.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

But I will say Lynn was walking up the stairs and had a moment that was very scary. Well, yeah, I guess that would be violent. They tried to take me back down the stairs. They tried to push me. She felt like something had grabbed her and tried to pull her back down. So I don't know if it was like I just still want to speak to you, or if it was like, hey, you're gonna be down here with me forever.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Wow. So to the little repetitive, I guess, but just for clarity. So your goal is one, just to see if anything's there, but also to you believe that a lot a lot of ghosts have some might have something to say, and that might be why they're hanging out. So your goal is to one, are they even there? And then just to say, hey, do you have a message you're trying to send on to somebody?

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yes, we always try to ask, is there a message you want to get to someone?

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Also, it's a bit of educating people too, because a lot of times, you know, people hear paranormal or ghosts, and they're like, This is so scary. But then you got to think about it, what if it's your loved one? Is that that scary? Sometimes I like to reference this because it was something we were learning in our parapsychology. People with dementia, you know, if part of their energy is left, if it's like an energetic stamp in a certain place, you might get angry energy because they don't know why you're there.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

So their ghosts could still have dementia?

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yes, that that part of their spirit that's left, it's not necessarily them, but it's say you've gotten a car wreck somewhere and you didn't die. It's an impression, but you left an imprint there, maybe like an angry or a scared energetic imprint. So it could be an energetic imprint, or at least that's what I'd like to believe too, with the research I've done. But if they're like I said, they have dementia, then they're confused. Why are you there? Why are you changing stuff?

SPEAKER_03 20:01

It's interesting. See, I I do believe, and it uh you know, I feel like it contradicts with the Bible, so I try not to believe it, but I it kind of like I do believe in energy forces. I mean, we kind of know we we feel an energy when we walk into a room, whether it's uh high energy, a low, negative, bad, like we all feel these energy forces, and I personally think that expands into so many other things, whether it's life or existence after life, whether it's people, whatever. I think part of the Muslim religion is is energy. I think they believe that God is the energy force. I don't I don't remember again. I I do think that's pretty interesting that how you could feel something. Yeah, the energy source. I think you use the word leaving an imprint. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yes, yes. Uh so like I would also call those more of a residual haunting, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

So there's a difference between a residual haunt and an intelligent haunt. So residual haunts is something that they part of part of their spirit may be reliving, like how someone died. So if you go and you're just seeing what looks to you like a woman searching for her child, that was you know something that always comes up on bridges. She's just residually haunting that bridge, she's not interacting with you. She doesn't know you're there, but she's just doing what she's been doing. With intelligent haunt, they can interact with you, they can touch things, you know. If you know, sometimes I would say they can move things, but I haven't really seen that. Not not to an extent that would be proof that they can physically move objects. Besides, I will say the the culture guys doll behind me, Dania, she has. Slightly moved certain objects around her, but not to the point of like, oh, she just threw that across the room.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Yeah. Well, I did see one of your videos online it and the doll moved or slumped over. So I mean, are they moved? So there let's go in this. You brought a special guest. So is it is it would you say that's your focus? Is dolls?

SPEAKER_00 22:24

No, it didn't start that way.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Oh, raise that. All I see is a head. Oh my goodness. She's not so scary looking.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

You know what's funny is a lot of people are scared of haunted dolls than they see her and they're like, she's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Yeah, most of them are scary. My mom, when my grandma passed away, she had a glass case with these same crazy looking dolls. I think it's just because their eyes are staring at you. I think they have big eyes and it looks like they're looking right in your soul, and that's but if you think about it, it's a close thing that looks like a human.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yeah, that's why people will say dolls get possessed easier because they resemble us, us.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Yeah, she's she's quite the character. Um, we've had quite the experiences with her, and other people have too. Nothing malicious or anything like that, but she likes to play games. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

So we actually did like a what type of games does she like to play?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Well, so we did an event back in October at the Growler and in downtown Fayetteville, and we were all gathering, they had the back door left open or unlocked, and so people could get to go orders. Well, shh, we're all everybody's up front, and we're doing our like talking about ghosts, we're doing all of that, and someone went to the back and said it was locked, and they asked around who locked it, and then they walked up to us and said, I think your doll locked us all in.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

She will open doors, she will lock doors. Yes, and so that has been a thing with her. She likes coffee, she likes she likes coffee too. And if you intrigue her, like a friend of ours was talking about making a short film and they wanted to put her in it. So we have what we call cat balls. I know you've seen the little balls that light up when you touch them. Yeah, and we use those for investigations, especially with children, because they like the lights, you know, children's spirits. Well, she likes to use them to answer questions. So I do have a video we haven't posted yet, but you'll see our friend say something about Danya. Do you want to be in a movie? And she's got a cat ball in her lap, nothing touching it, and it just starts lighting up.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

So this is forced that crazy. Yeah. See, she looks like I'm looking at her, she looks like she's about to say something right now.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

She's like, she's probably expressing her want to go to the we bought our daughter tickets to Cat's Eye.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

It's a band or it's an international girl group that was started, I believe, on Netflix. And so our daughter wanted to go really bad. We got tickets for October in Atlanta, and Danya, our haunted doll, found out.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

And so now she every so often it when she knows that we're awake, because we set bound boundaries, we because your voice is your biggest power. But if she knows that we're awake or we're about to fall asleep, she likes playing little games with electronics, with electronics. Well, our Alexa Alexa went off and started like fastly going through all the cat's eye music. And I was like, She was getting concert ready, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

That's that would scare me. So that doesn't scare y'all at all.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

So I don't feel anything malicious with it, I feel more of curiosity, given that I've had other experiences that made me feel uncomfortable. I didn't get any of that with her. No, she's just a a a child, she's very childlike, yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

So if that doesn't scare you, I guess it scares you a little bit. What does scare you? Is there anything that you're afraid of?

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Now, no, I would have to say the one thing I do is being in the right mindset. So your mental health, if they if there is something a spirit's going to do if they're trying to be malicious, it's put you in a bad frame of mind. Yes. So you see all these things in Hollywood where they're throwing you into mirrors or people fully levitating or all kinds of crazy stuff like that. But really, it's the mental health you want to worry about because if you're dealing with a very sad spirit or someone that was very depressed before they passed, because they can put you in that mindset and you don't even know it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

I think this young lady is changing her facial expression. She looks like she does. She does. I'm like, am I imagining this? Her eyes look like she's like, I'm getting tired of this. Like, uh let's see if we can make her happy. We're gonna project positive, happy energy, and she's she'll smile again. There's a twinkle. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah, she she likes happy, and she's really good with with men, which is funny because most men they have this thing about haunted dolls, they're like, absolutely not. But we actually have a friend of ours that goes ghost hunting with us, and he will hold her like a baby, like just cuddle her like a baby once he got used to her.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

So she does have a very calming presence at times, and she's not your like typical small porcelain doll, as you see.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

She is actually with the uggs on she likes going shopping.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

She does like going shopping.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

She's got more expensive boots than me.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Yeah, she she's she's definitely a character, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

So last question, what tell me what's the funniest thing that might have happened during one of these or funniest interaction with a with a ghost?

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Oh, there's been a lot, but I'd say our friend Mandy went investigating for the first time with us, and for me, this was hilarious. She didn't understand when you're doing an investigation, you ask a question and then you give time to answer. So it was kind of she was just goofing off, you know, and all of a sudden through the app, you hear you are annoying burn. Like, oh, a burn.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Oh, burn, like a burn's not like yeah, yeah. Well, that was burnt scared me. That's not funny.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

No, no, no. It was in the way that the app said it, too. It was like it was like a quick comeback. The ghost had jokes. Yes. We have had that's what we need.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

We need fun ghosts.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Yes, we actually have a lot of fun investigating too. That's something no one talks about. I'm glad you brought that up. So we goof off a lot, like 90% of the time, we're having fun with it.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

You have to have fun with it because it keeps your vibrations up. Because if you get too serious, sometimes that could lower your vibrations. Where I I would not stay possessed, but change your mindset. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

Right. Well, I again the the whole energy level thing, I love that you've seen videos where a dad or mom or grandma said that I'm gonna come back as a butterfly, or she loved butterflies, or she loved this or that, and then this person's sitting somewhere, and then a butterfly lands right on their shoulder. And that didn't happen. I've never in my life had a butterfly land on my shoulder. So if somebody close to me passed away and within a month a butterfly land on my shoulder, I'm pretty sure that's gonna be pretty believable. That is some form of you know energy that's gone through them or whatever, medium. Is that the right thing?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

100%. I have to tell you, this sounds crazy, but sometimes it's it's not always like an auditory or a fill-in. Sometimes I smell things, so like phantom sense. Yes. And one thing I know for a fact is when my grandmother's around and she's like, hey, everything's gonna be okay, I smell peanut butter. There could be no peanut butter in the house, and I will absolutely smell it.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

I think when we finally started really doing this together, is when we got together in a relationship. Uh-huh. And I had to tell her when she moved in, I said, Don't be alarmed at 12 a.m. You're gonna smell coffee. I did not have a coffee maker in the house whatsoever. And she's like, What? I said, and then you're gonna hear down the stairs the dump, the dump, the dump. And she's like, What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Apparently, the old man that lived there before had died of a heart attack making coffee, yeah, going down the stairs, which is so sad. So that's one of those residual haunts, yes. As in Danya here is more of she's very very intelligent haunting.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

That's interesting. I'm I'm gonna have to look more into that. I love the thought of you use the word leaving an energy imprint or whatever. Yeah, and it just doesn't make sense to me that you know, even especially if it was a tragic death or anything like that, that you could actually leave an energy input. I think that's the perfect word for it, too. I can't even think of another way to phrase it.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

That I I heard it a couple of times when somebody was explaining their experiences, and I was like, wow, that is profound.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Well, like yesterday we were like trying to figure out what we wanted to call it, and I was like, we just need to call it an energy imprint because that's what they leave. I mean, you can leave an energy imprint being alive still if something is so tragic.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

It's kind of like going back to the therapy part of it. Like when a therapist explains to you PTSD, you can get PTSD from witnessing something bad happening to someone else and it didn't even happen to you. So it kind of correlates.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

Yeah, that's awesome. Well, Lynn, Tammy, thank y'all so much. This was very entertaining. Tell me again where they can find you. I'm old, so I always say Facebook, but you should get a website and they can find all your social media from the website.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Yes, if you just visit lifebeondheaving.com and it'll pop up and show you.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

I think we have Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Facebook, of course, the website itself, YouTube, and we're trying to get a Twitch because we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

The kids say that's what we need.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

Well, I mean, I guess they do go there and they chat in videos like this, and they're just on, and I don't really understand it either. So whatever.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Eventually we we want to actually start a podcast. So if you got any pointers for us, let us know.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Oh, I'd love to talk to you about that. Yeah, it's a lot easier than then it sounds. It's one of those things you just gotta kind of gotta jump in and do it, and then it it just really starts building from there. So it's not as difficult as it sounds, you know. With it, it just feels like there's so much of a process. Like, how do you how do you even do that? But I'm happy to talk to y'all about that.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Well, this has been a very positive first experience with podcast for us. So we really enjoyed this. Yes, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

All right, well, thank you all very much. Y'all have a great day. You have a you as well.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

Thank you, David.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

All right, bye bye.