Think Like Munger - Systems, Inversion, and the Lollapalooza Effect

Charlie Munger wasn’t just Warren Buffett’s right-hand man — he was a builder of mental systems, a student of history, and a principled real estate investor.

In this episode of The Timeless Investor Show, we explore the timeless lessons Munger left behind:

• The power of multidisciplinary thinking
• The “mental models” Munger used to filter reality
• The principle of inversion — and why solving for failure matters
• How the Lollapalooza Effect explains bubbles, pandemics, and real estate mania
• Why Munger loved real estate — and how he approached investing in it

We also talk about how modern tools like AI (when used wisely) can help investors today think more clearly — and how timeless principles still matter more than ever.

If you're trying to become a better investor, thinker, or leader — this one’s for you.

📚 Book referenced: Poor Charlie’s Almanack
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Charlie Munger once said, a lot of people with high IQs are terrible investors because they've got terrible temperaments. You need to keep raw emotions under control. But what made Munger truly powerful wasn't just his temperament. It was his ability to borrow from every field of human knowledge. Biology, psychology, math, history, philosophy. so many that he took care of, he built a mental library of models or filters that influenced how he saw the world and allowed him to cut through the noise and make much better decisions as an investor. The key takeaway here is great investors don't just find deals, they know how to think, they know how to think through their emotions, and they know how to think through processes and what's happening around them to filter and make better decisions. Welcome to the Timeless Investor Show, where we explore timeless principles for life and investing. I'm Ari Van Gemeren, real estate investor, fund manager, student of history. So who is Charlie Munger? Many of you probably know of him in some way, shape, or form. Charlie Munger was the vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, who recently passed away after a very long and robust life as an investor, including being a very successful real estate investor. He was Warren Buffett's right-hand man, main partner. I would say sort of the less well-sung hero of the Berkshire Hathaway saga that we're all aware of and all glorify Buffett a lot for it. But Munger had a huge part to play in this. One of the best books I've probably ever read and recommended to many people in my network is... Charlie's Almanac. Oftentimes, we're pigeonholed into what we understand. You studied finance. You see the world in a finance perspective. You studied history. You see the world through history. But the key thing is you have to utilize many different models to view the world. You have to utilize many different practices and philosophies and academic studies to better understand the world and better build mental models for how you analyze risk, how you analyze investment opportunity, how you analyze if a deal makes sense or not. Thank you so much. No one model solves everything. And by the way, philosophers have been looking for like the one key to all reality. But the reality is, I think, that, you know, no single model has perfect explanatory power. And that's the thing we can really take away from Munger. So if you can see the world through multiple different models, you know, he, I mean, Munger was, the reason he wrote Poor Charlie's Almanac is because It is a direct descendant of Poor Richard's Almanac, which was Benjamin Franklin's book that he wrote. And Benjamin Franklin was a well-known polymath. He was a learned expert in many different disciplines. And Munger really tried to emphasize the same approach. And I think investors of all stripes would benefit. Not just investors, by the way. This is like life wisdom. Everybody would benefit from taking the approach of, let me... absorb many different philosophies and build a synthesis view of how reality operates, how the world operates, and be open to different perspectives and different things. So three to four models that Munger really loved and I want to share with you. So A, opportunity cost. What's the next best use of your capital? If you're locking your capital into a low-yield deal, you're foregoing the better the better returns that could have been gotten elsewhere. And so sometimes we get very myopic in our approach, and we like what we're doing, and we stay the course of what we're doing. And maybe you're missing out on opportunity cost, but you could have done something better elsewhere. The second philosophy that he took, which I think is amazing, is called inversion. invert the way you're looking at it. So instead of asking on a deal or in anything, how can I succeed? Ask, how can I fail? And then map a way to not fail, right? And it's kind of counterintuitive because in this world, we have a lot of belief and visualization and positive thinking and optimistic outlook kind of engineering. But if you look at it from the lens of like, if I wanted to fail, how could I fail? It's a completely novel way of looking at a situation. How could I fail if I wanted to engineer failure and then solve for that? Don't fail because you engineer out how you would fail and then you solve that issue. The third is margin of safety. This is not so much of a multidisciplinary approach, but it's a really important concept. Margin of Safety was popularized by Benjamin Graham, who's the father of fundamental investing, in two of his books, Security Analysis and The Intelligent Investor. Both fantastic reads, especially if you're a stock market person, but good anyways for establishing a systematic approach to determining value, to understanding that whatever you're investing in, you're really investing in the underlying business, whether it be a piece of property or a stock. And Margin of Safety is the notion that you understand the intrinsic value of the asset. And then you want to get a better price than the intrinsic value. You're disregarding the daily temperament of Mr. Market, which is another Benjamin Graham saying. You're disregarding what the market gives you on a given day. You're disregarding what real estate pricing is giving you on a given day. And you're trying to understand what is this thing really worth and how do I build in safety so that if something goes wrong, you have a buffer to protect yourself. The last one I want to talk about is awesome. It's called the Lollapalooza Effect. It's a fascinating thing, but basically the premise is that when multiple different models collide and conspire together to push things in a certain direction, you can have an exacerbated irrational effect. So I'm going to talk about this in a moment, but it's like the dot-com... bubble. You had multiple different models colliding. You had a low interest rate model. You had a technological change model colliding. You had an understanding of human emotion and sentiment and FOMO and all the things that go into that. All of those collided together to create this exaggerated effect. Or you look at the lead up to 2008. It's sort of a similar story with real estate. And if you really try to break it into what's happening, there's multiple different philosophies, if you will, working together, conspiring together to create a really negative effect for everybody. But if you can see that and you can see the various models coming together, then you can understand the Lollapalooza effect, which is something you really need to see. So I think a real world example of this is what we just went through with COVID-19. You had a couple of different things, right? So let's just talk about COVID. So a quick reading of of the effect of major pandemics or plagues on human civilization, of which there's been many, will yield some interesting insights. They usually spark societal unrest. There's a whole bunch of things that come into it, but the one commonality of all them is that they end, right? So the effect of it does eventually come to a conclusion. But if you go back through history, and by the way, COVID was a plague of sorts. It was a pandemic, covered the entire globe. But in history, We have had substantially more devastating plagues that have affected our civilization. The Antonine Plague killed like 20% of the Roman population. The Spanish flu was a massive plague. I mean, does some say that Harry Truman and negotiating the aftermath of World War I and a lot of the things that actually caused the start of World War II, excuse me, not Harry Truman, Woodrow Wilson, excuse me, Woodrow Wilson had had the Spanish flu and there's speculation that There's a great, great book on this that I'll drop in the show notes as well that's really worth reading. I believe it's called The Great Influenza. He had flu brain. It's fascinating. He had flu brain, so he wasn't negotiating at the top of his game, and he wasn't thinking at the top of his game. He was adamant that Germany should not be punished so harshly, but because of the effects of the plague, he didn't actually stand up for and defend the rights of the losers of that war, which in many ways helped spark World War II. Accursory looking at the history of plagues and pandemics yields some insights, right? You also had record low interest rates. You had a sentiment model where politics got really volatile during this period. But you can look at pandemics in history and understand that that happens. That's something that happens every time. So you had a Lollapalooza effect. And in line with my thinking and firmly stated many, many times, I believe this drove Sunbelt Real Estate pricing to unrealistic levels, right? And there was a lot of emotion behind it and a lot of hype and excitement and record low interest rates and so many different factors that came together to form this. And we looked at deals. We looked at deals in Austin. We looked at different markets. And I just thought the pricing was out of whack. But like, If you're caught up in that, and it's not anyone's fault. People get caught up in these things. It's a real thing. I've certainly gotten caught up in things in my life, and it happens. You get sucked into these things, but that is the Lollapalooza effect in action. The older I get and the more tenured I get in this business, the more I realize investing is not just what you know, although it's really, really important. It's also about how clearly you think. how clearly you think through the issues, and how clearly you assess your own models of how you see the world. Are they good? Are they bad? Not all models are good. You have to really assess that. Honestly, at the end of the day, I look back and I say, real estate investors, in particular, should really pursue a multidisciplinary approach because our industry, just like the stock market in many ways, but our industry is hyperlocal, so you have to understand what's going on locally, but you have to understand the bigger trends. You have to know many different fields and disciplines to be an operator at the bleeding edge of productivity and efficiency. You don't need to know everything and no one can know everything. Although with AI, we're getting pretty close. I mean, I heard something the other day about IQ doesn't matter anymore, which is an interesting perspective because we have access to endless information and a guide that can help us in so many ways. So AI is a huge force multiplier and And it is a huge equalizer because it's cheap and we have access to it and it can give you models. It can help you think through things a lot more clearly. I would challenge anyone to go into their AI model when they're looking at a deal and be like, analyze this from a Charlie Munger approach. Tell me what I'm missing. What thematics am I missing here? What are the big trends that are driving things right now? Grok is really great for this right now. Grok is up to the date today and has great insights. I think it's one of the best models I've been using. So Munger wasn't just smart. He was principled. He understood these things. It's a reason he became as successful as he was. And he was a great real estate investor, by the way. It's like not often realized because we think of Berkshire Hathaway and this incredible holding company that's had unbelievable results. And he did that. But in alignment with his reputation as a renowned polymath, as a guy that understood so many different things, he was a great, great real estate investor. So let's take this. I highly encourage you to read the book. Let's proceed forward. And remember, think well, act wisely. Let's build something timeless together. Thank you.