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[S2EP9] 7 Shifts Every Church Board Must Make to Lead with Wisdom│ 40 Lessons In 40 Years
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What happens when church boards don’t adapt as the church grows? Frustration, stalled momentum, and pastors ready to walk away.
In this episode, Tim Stevens and Holly Tate talk about one of the most overlooked but critical topics in church leadership: board governance. Based on Tim’s 40 Lessons in 40 Years, they break down seven shifts every board needs to consider—from moving beyond doing the work themselves to actually overseeing it, to shifting from protecting relationships to protecting the mission.
This isn’t just theory. Tim shares real stories from churches he’s worked with, the common mistakes he sees, and how healthy governance gives both pastors and boards clarity.
This episode covers:
- Why governance is culture, not just paperwork
- Seven practical shifts boards face as the church grows
- How the right setup protects both pastors and the mission
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