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[S3EP19] Shared Leadership Models in the Church: Does Co-Pastoring Actually Work?
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Is shared church leadership a growing trend — or just a passing experiment? In this episode of the Leading Smart podcast, Holly Tate and Tim Stevens dive into the rising movement of co-lead pastor models they're seeing across churches of all sizes.
They unpack why this is happening now (generational shifts + leadership scandals), what these models actually look like in practice (2 pastors, 3 pastors, even 7!), and the key principles that determine whether shared leadership thrives or falls apart.
In this episode:
- Why millennials and Gen Z leaders are gravitating toward co-leadership
- Real examples: Village Church, New Spring, First Baptist Orlando
- The pros and cons of shared vs. single senior pastor models
- How to define lanes, handle conflict, and protect trust over time
- What happens when one co-leader exits — and why you need a plan NOW
- The difference between agreement and alignment (and why it matters)
Whether your church is exploring a co-lead model, already in one, or just curious about where church leadership is heading — this conversation is for you.
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