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[S3EP23] How Silos Destroy Organizations (And When They Might Actually Help)
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Welcome back to episode 23 of The LeadingSmart Podcast! Silos are one of the most common — and most damaging — forces quietly undermining healthy church organizations. But how do you know when you have them, and what do you do about them? In this episode, Tim Stevens and Holly Tate tackle the silo problem head-on, with Tim sharing five specific ways silos hurt organizations and Holly bringing the heat on why she feels so passionately about this topic.
From territorial mindsets that replace mission with ownership, to broken trust between teams, to volunteers who burn out because nobody's communicating — Tim and Holly give church leaders practical language and tools to identify and dismantle the silos that could be quietly fracturing your culture.
And then Tim drops a hot take: are there times when a silo can actually be healthy? Holly's skeptical — but you'll have to tune in to find out if he convinces her.
In this episode:
- The 5 ways silos kill healthy organizations (including one specific to churches and volunteers)
- Why territorial language — "my ministry," "my volunteers" — is a warning sign worth paying attention to
- How silos hide problems until they're expensive to fix
- Tim's "hot take" on when siloing your team might actually be the right move
- A practical Venn diagram exercise to help leaders identify what they can — and can't — control
- When it's time to stop protecting a culture that isn't yours to fix
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