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Nuclear Claims and Proxy Wars: Israel, Iran, and the Road to Global Conflict
This episode was recorded on June 20,2025, before the United States bombed Iran's nuclear sites.
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A haunting question echoes throughout our latest podcast episode: Are we already in World War III? As we unpack the volatile relationship between Israel and Iran, we discover how these nations moved from diplomatic friendship in 1948 to the brink of regional war that threatens to engulf the globe.
Netanyahu's 13-year campaign warning about Iran's imminent nuclear capabilities takes center stage in our discussion. Since 2009, he's repeatedly claimed Iran was just months away from developing weapons of mass destruction—claims that eerily mirror previous justifications for Middle Eastern military interventions. Now, as missiles fly and tensions escalate, we examine whether we're witnessing history repeating itself through dangerous propaganda or facing genuine existential threats.
The geopolitical chessboard has become increasingly complex. Iran's military protection agreements with Russia, China, and North Korea mean that direct US involvement could trigger unprecedented conflict with multiple nuclear powers simultaneously. Our conversation explores how NATO obligations, shifting alliances, and resource competition could reshape global power structures in ways we haven't seen since the World Wars.
Perhaps most fascinating is our exploration of cycles in human civilization—how archaeological discoveries of sophisticated underground cities suggest humanity may have faced and survived similar catastrophic events before. We question whether current conflicts around ancient lands might be intentionally erasing evidence of our true origins and capabilities.
Whether you're concerned about immediate geopolitical tensions, fascinated by ancient civilizations, or simply trying to understand how to protect your family through uncertain times, this wide-ranging conversation offers perspective on where we've been, where we're headed, and what it all means for our collective future.
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Welcome to the Wait what Podcast. My name is AC, I'm Alex and I'm Zora, and we are here to discuss all of the things that make us go wait what? And starting the podcast today we are going to discuss Israel and Iran what's on everybody's mind. Alex, would you like to give us a brief history on the relationship between Israel and Iran?
Speaker 2:Oh, I would love to. So they actually start out back in 1948 as friends. Iran was actually one of the first Muslim nations to recognize Israel. So they started off really great, really well. But then, as like different revolutions happened, iran broke their ties with Israel. They called it the Zionist regime and then they started supporting Palestine. So you know that that definitely caused some bad blood there. And then, as they started like building up more tensions Netanyahu doing Netanyahu things.
Speaker 2:Netanyahu started actually saying that they had a nuclear bomb, starting back in 2009. He's been claiming this. He started doing this in UN speeches. The first one was September 24th 2009. He called Iran the world's most dangerous regime to get the world's most dangerous weapons which crazy. Then he said the same thing nearly three years to the day later.
Speaker 2:Now this is the really iconic speech, the one in 2012, where he held up the poorly drawn graphic of them showing how close Iran is to a bomb. I don't know if you guys have seen it, but it's really crazy. We'll definitely link it. It's definitely where Donald Trump gets his artistic skills, for when he's like drawing on maps with Sharpies, he's definitely taking it from there. So these, and he said during that speech the quote is by next spring at most by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and moved on to the final stage. That was 13 years ago. Then the same thing happened in 2013. Same thing happened in 2014, 2015, 2018, 2023. And now here we are in 2025 and we are doing the same thing again. And but now Israel did a preemptive attack and now they are getting the retaliation. But you know that they're they're really saying that Iran started it all. That's where we're at. That's where we're at today. Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my God, the propaganda machine. I don't even know where to begin with that information it's. It just gives me Bush and the yellow cake. Do you guys remember that speech?
Speaker 3:I do George W Bush was like they've got yellow cake and he's like at the podium with actual yellow cake and he's like no bro, that ain't it. But really talking about why we need to justify and go in to the Middle East and, you know, start bombing because they are building weapons of mass destruction. And it's this narrative that brown people with weapons are inherently dangerous but white nations, or predominantly white nations, with the same weapons are for the global peace. And it just plays into these racial narratives that permeate all of our lives and really reinforce those stereotypes. And here we are now leading into another global conflict as a result of it.
Speaker 1:So World War I was Austria-Hungary, world War II was Germany. So I'm not really sure in the modern world why the narrative is that way. Oil, well yeah.
Speaker 2:Oil Mentioned the World Wars. Do you guys think that we are currently in World War III?
Speaker 3:Yes, We've been in World War III for a long time.
Speaker 2:I agree, world War.
Speaker 3:III has been fought through proxy wars, smaller nation conflicts being backed and supported by the larger nations, showing off their might, testing their missiles, testing their weapon systems, for when we do go into full-scale conflict between major players. But all of these wars have been raging for a decade. It's just now we're getting to the stage of the wars where it's going to be full-on conflict between the larger nations. I mean, most people don't know, but I think it was 2022 where Iran signed a trade and military protection deal with Russia, with North Korea, with China, and so you know, if they're attacked by us, by the US, that puts us in direct conflict with those nations. While we might have a standing chance against one of them collaboratively altogether, I don't know that we can win that fight as the US, or the US and Israel, because we alienated all of our other allies. So I'm not sure that we are at the fighting strength or the ability to really win that conflict, which leads me to believe what's the other end goal?
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I think that's the reason that Trump pushed for Europe to get their militaries together because we are going to need, if anything like that were to happen not saying that it is or is not if that were to happen, we would need military backup from our NATO allies, and they have been slacking. That was his point. Right, they needed to add to their militaries what was said to be their own protection, but I feel like it would be the protection of the West. Have you guys seen that Xi and Putin released a statement that had a warning for Trump? No, I haven't seen that yet, and it was basically saying that you know the US should not get involved. Give me a second. I'm going to find it really quick.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's possible for the US to not be involved. Like you, look at almost any major conflict that's happened in the last 30, 40 years, probably longer it all points back. Like you know, the phrases like trace back the money it all comes back here.
Speaker 3:Military industrial complex. We make our money that way. Our economy grows and millionaires and billionaires and dare I say in this economy trillionaires will be made during war.
Speaker 2:It's big business billionaires will be made during war. It's big business. I just saw that there was an interview with I believe it was the CEO of Lockheed Martin talking about how there's going to be an uptick in military spending over the next three to five years. So they were expecting even more profits, which that's so insane to me that people literally profit off of assisting and killing civilians.
Speaker 1:Okay, so here it is. They basically said that they condemned the war, so Xi explicitly condemned Israel, and then they said that major powers that have special influence on the parties to the conflict should work to cool the situation. Not the opposite and I think that has to come from. What you just said, Zora is that if the United States enters this conflict, then so do Russia and China.
Speaker 3:And North Korea. North Korea is already fighting with Russia in Ukraine. We already know that North Korean soldiers are there, so we know that Iranian drones have been flying over. We know that that's what's been happening in Ukraine. And so when the warning is made to the US to stay out of it and Iran did that they said if we, if we, the US get involved, the pain will be felt around the world. And the reality is is that they have the capacity to carry out attacks on US soil if needed, right, if they wanted to. Russia has positioned its nuclear carriers, I believe one article I read recently was that they're floating just 90 miles off the coast of the United States, near Alaska. At this point, they've moved their nuclear ships right. So we're not just talking about a battleship and strategically placing our ships. There's full-on announcements. There's bunker bumps coming. There's the iron dome that either seems to be failing or letting things through to to escalate a conflict. Who knows? But I don't know that there's a de-escalation that happens there.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's a cooling down of heads, if you will I mean, the only, the only people that could cool this down would be the israelis they've gone way too far.
Speaker 2:They gotta see it through, I guess, till the whole fucking world explodes. I don't know really what their end goal is at this point, because it seems like it's never enough the end goal is to control the middle east yeah, it's a new middle east.
Speaker 1:It's a new middle east under under israeli control like a nugget of new world order, but just for that part of the world which would include the United States, obviously overseeing everything.
Speaker 2:Bankrolling it at least.
Speaker 3:I mean I guess I mean it's also a New World Order in Europe because, let's say, the US gets actively involved overseas in the Middle East. I mean the reality is is how much support are we going to be able to give to Ukraine and also fight a full fledged front in in the Iran-Israel conflict?
Speaker 1:We won't, and so that may end up seeing Ukraine lost to Russia and that becomes a whole global restructuring in and of itself of of the power dynamics there of the power dynamics there and I think that's the, that's the pull for france and for germany and for the uk right to bolster their militaries, because I think they're going to be responsible for protecting ukraine as the united states deals with this war in the middle east. That's where I see it going and that's where we have an.
Speaker 3:Except we have an Article 5 obligation. You know, if any of the NATO allies get involved in the conflict in Ukraine in a direct way, we have a direct responsibility under Article 5 to step in and help. Otherwise we're violating our NATO responsibility. So you know, we're severing ties with long-standing alliances. I think it's more than just telling Europe to bolster their armies. I mean we're severing ties with with long-standing alliances. I think it's more than just telling the, the europe to to bolster their armies. I mean we're looking at a full-on separation. But last week the uk said that russia is actively at war with the uk and that the us is no longer a dependable ally. So not just we need to strengthen our militaries, but we cannot depend on the us for anything. That's what's coming out in our news media here. Yeah, it's a whole.
Speaker 1:It feels like, as you look at the chessboard, it's being completely restructured from black and white to to brown and tan but the way that I see it playing out is the united states helping israel create a new order in the Middle East, a definitive order, and then Ukraine is being dealt with with our allies who've bolstered their militaries with US financial aid. Like that's how I see those two words being played out with the current administration, because I don't think that Trump is going to go as far as pull out of NATO. We're not going to lead with aid in Ukraine, we're going to lead with aid in Israel and our allies go towards Ukraine.
Speaker 3:Totally right. But Ukraine's not a NATO country. But as they start to line up along Poland, as we start to see these escalations on the borders of countries that are NATO signatories, we have to send troops et cetera to defend our NATO allies, otherwise we do breach NATO.
Speaker 1:We essentially sever it, but I guess what I'm saying is like what does that institute? Like what does it mean that we have to go to the front line? Or does that mean that, like, our allies as NATO have to send troops and we have to send some form of aid, like weaponry or money, whatever, whatever is necessary? Like that's what I'm saying, we're not going to give it up, we're not going to give up NATO, but we're going to pull back in being the front partners in that right? Like, let our NATO allies handle the frontline troops. I think that's what he's going for. It was like the US can't do two wars at once. We have to focus on the Middle East. You guys need to up your shit and focus on Europe, because you are directly impacted by it. So I guess maybe I was not understanding. With our treaty, would that mean that we have to send frontline troops?
Speaker 3:No, we don't have to send frontline troops, but the idea is an attack on one is an attack on all, and so we have to engage. And we know each NATO member decides how they engage, of course, but each member must engage for the protection of their NATO ally. And it's interesting to note, right, just for our listeners at home, that Article 5 has only ever been invoked once. And do you guys know what that was? For? 9-11, right, 9-11. The only time Article 5 has been invoked has been to support and defend the United States after 9-11. Where To send troops from our NATO allies into the Middle East, right? So it's like you start to pull all this and now we're saying, oh, we're sort of not going to, not going to step in and defend our NATO allies on the other side, and their homeland and home fronts are being challenged because even if they stand firm with their militaries, those border changes are going to be difficult to support. If you've got Russia coming in and China and North Korea and Iranian technology coming in to Europe, I don't think Europe can stand it off. They don't have enough, and the amount of time it would take for them to get to, you know, fighting strength is just too many years off.
Speaker 3:We could potentially see a completely restructured Europe at the end of this, at the end of this conflict and I don't know if you guys have seen it, but there's a couple of videos going around on speculation around what it could also mean in a changed world order, if you will.
Speaker 3:I mean, I kind of hate saying that, but just the powers that be, the structures and trade and trade routes and all of those things a new world order, trade and trade routes and all of those things.
Speaker 3:A new world order. That if we enter this conflict, that the US could be attacked on its own soil, that that attack would trigger an impact on our economy, our trade, our pipelines of food and grocery stores and all the things right, which would lead to more dependence on the cryptocurrency, changes in how our government functions, moving forward, so how we rebuild, and all of the bills and the executive orders that have been put into place since January 20th of 2025 seem to support that idea of creating legal precedent for what a rebuild looks like, right? The big beautiful bill, the executive orders on cryptocurrency, the bills that have passed through Congress on digital dollars, et cetera. All of that seems to be pointing towards what a rebuild or a new America looks like, and that requires the old America to go away. So it just is an interesting inflection point where we find a lot of resources that we need, especially since now we're going back towards oil.
Speaker 1:I think the resources that Well power, yes, but I mean the world is getting hotter and we continue to burn these stupid resources even though we have better options available at this point, they're just not as economically friendly. I don't know where I was going with that, guys no, but I mean I think it's true.
Speaker 3:Right, the world is getting hotter. What we know is that in the next decade or so, the the estimation is that the next wars are going to be fought not over oil, not over power, but over water. I mean, it's why we see so many of these billionaires buying up all this land with riparian rights. What I mean by riparian rights is water rights, with the right to the stream or to access to the water. You know farmland in the middle of America, farmland in New Zealand. You know all these people. They're building, they're using their immense resources to stockpile and store water, as well as underground bunkers. So have you guys seen and I know that this is a little off topic from the conflict in Israel-Iran, but have you guys seen that there are these asteroids essentially coming and pummeling towards Earth, these city-busting asteroids?
Speaker 2:I saw just a headline, so I didn didn't read it, but about how it could hit the moon. I saw that too. Yeah, I didn't read it because there's so much other shit going on. I feel like I can only take in so much potential world ending news in one day. But that's totally yeah, that's we're at the point. We're reading that. I was just like okay and scrolled on, which is crazy.
Speaker 1:I feel like we should do a podcast on. We should all go watch, don't Look Up and discuss it, and how it relates.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I watched it when it first came out and I know if I watch it again now I'm just gonna cry and be like, oh, that's us.
Speaker 3:So, guys, I don't. I'm sorry for my ignorance, but I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's a movie on Netflix that came out, I think, in 2022 or 2023, with Leonardo DiCaprio, jennifer Lawrence, timothee Chalamet, and the TLDR plotline is that climate change is literally going to destroy the world and Leo and Jennifer, their characters, are. Is that right, or is there an asteroid? Am I?
Speaker 1:So there's an asteroid coming towards Earth and they're talking about climate change and then the causes of it and like how we're not paying attention to anything that's going on, and then politicians go through and continue to deny, deny, deny that anything is happening until spoiler alert the asteroid hits the Earth and everyone dies.
Speaker 2:That's why you don't look up. Wait, not everyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the propaganda in the movie was don't look up.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I love this.
Speaker 2:It's on Netflix, so we should definitely Time to rewatch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm so glad you guys brought that to my attention. I've been watching. I rewatched Ancient Apocalypse. Have you guys seen that show?
Speaker 2:on Netflix.
Speaker 3:I've seen some episodes. It's so interesting, so interesting. It's a little bit boring. Sorry, graham, but like I mean I'm calling him by his first name, like I know him, but I've seen it so many times that I'm like I feel like we're besties. But it's so boring. In the beginning I'm like, oh my God, if he could talk. He like can't talk any slower. But it's fascinating and it's all about this idea of this ancient apocalypse that occurred about 12,900 years ago, at the end of the last ice age. And you know, one of the theories is that it is this asteroid that hits, that hits the earth, but it hits the earth like on an ice cap, which is why we don't really see the crater.
Speaker 3:Right, we have the stories of the great flood. The great flood is a story that is across cultures. Right, you go to any culture and religion. They have a myth of the great flood, which is generally from around the same time period, um, they have a myth of the great flood, which is generally from around the same time period, um, they have a, a myth of a civilizing hero, someone who comes and like reboots civilization. You've got the underground caves and and during k, during kaiyu, during kuyu, um, in turkey and all, and like the caves in in new mexico of these different, you know, underground cities that existed in pre-date that time period. And so it's this whole argument that, like we we have done this before Like we have these cycles, things happen. We're not alone in space, we're not just floating out here by ourselves. And there is this map. Before I get too into it, have you guys seen any of this or heard of any of this?
Speaker 2:before. I mean, I watched the first few episodes so I know like the gist of what you're talking about. Like there was a place in Asia where there's all these random rocks and they thought it was just from like a volcanic movement or something, but it really looks like it was a big temple that all collapsed Like when you dive further into it. Right, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it revealed three independent chambers in a set pyramid down below that all connected. That's inside of the mountain. It's fascinating. So if you haven't seen that part, I highly recommend going back to the series and watching. When they do the ground, penetrating LIDAR, and they dig out because they find that it's even older than they thought. You know, older than 20,000 years ago it's fascinating. Yeah, I mean it's just. It's like mind-boggling when you think about what they found and the technological abilities of the beings that created that right. And it's not science fiction, it's part of our earth. We can go there, we can fly there and see this.
Speaker 3:But one of the things they talk about in the show is this pillar that's discovered in Turkey.
Speaker 3:There's this farmer, we see the rock sticking out of the ground in Turkey and it's like this erosion that's happened on this hillside. And all of a sudden this rock is sticking up and it has carvings on it. So they start to excavate the space and they find that it's a chamber, with all of these different carvings on these different monolithic, you know gigantic structures, and one of them they call it Pillar 43, looks like it has a date stamp on it, so it's a positioning of the sun, the moon, the stars, the planetary alignments, and it's basically like you know, when this alignment happens. These asteroids come from the sky, you know, and it's like they rain down and basically that is the same alignment that we are entering into now, or at the time of the show was like 2022. So we were entering into one of the most dangerous astrological times for our planetary placement as it relates to these, you know, asteroids and meteors and the potential for them to hit the earth. So it's just fascinating.
Speaker 2:So what I'm hearing is that my anxiety about the world ending is actually my DNA and my ancestral genes saying girl, you're right and I don't need to be taking Alexa bro, Yep, Yep. You just lean into that shit.
Speaker 1:You should.
Speaker 3:I'm going to wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Does this mean that Elon's right and we need to develop Mars?
Speaker 3:so yes and no um, we need to dig underground. So like, have you guys? Are you familiar with Derinkuyu in Turkey? No, no. I am not so it is an entire underground city. It's like Cappadocia, Derinkuyu, like they're entire underground cities that could have housed hundreds of thousands of people underground during the last Ice Age. It's the most fascinating thing. And now in Turkey, in Cappadocia, they've turned some of them into like tours and even hotels you can like stay down there now.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've definitely seen Cappadocia, but never Derinkuyu. How do you pronounce it?
Speaker 3:Derinkuyu. I think it's like D-A-R-I-N-K-Y-U. Yeah, derinkuyu.
Speaker 3:It looks beautiful, beautiful, right, but what they have found is they've continued sort of exploring and like using modern technology to do the radar under the ground to see what's down there, without the cost of excavating. Cities that they found were actually connected. They had fucking roads Sorry, now we got to give an explicit warning, but, like they had, they had roads connecting one little town to the next little town. So it wasn't just that they were these independent little silos of communities, it was an entire network of underground cities that allowed for humanity to not just survive, cities that allowed for humanity to not just survive but also thrive.
Speaker 3:During the last ice age and when the asteroid hit or the great flood came and the people rose from the ground right, coming out of their underground cities to a habitable land again, we were still alive here with the knowledge of civilization. It's wild and challenges the entire idea of, you know, the hunter-gatherer evolution of humanity. It is also interesting to me, when we talk about the wars that are happening now, the conflicts in Israel and Iran, the fact that it is those same areas that are actively being bombed now. It is those same areas that are actively being bombed now. So something about the history of that is being intentionally eliminated for some reason?
Speaker 2:Well, isn't Iraq? Isn't that the place like the oldest living civilization known on record, sumeria?
Speaker 3:yeah, so all of those records, all of that history, all of that is being what's seemingly intentionally destroyed for some other purpose. You think that's?
Speaker 2:why they're trying to flatten Bethlehem so that way they can rewrite that Jesus was white.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's necessarily about rewriting that Jesus was white as much as it is about changing the story entirely.
Speaker 1:Okay, I want to say something personal here, which is going to sound very crazy, but ever since I was a little child I've had this opinion. I've always looked up and out into space as if that was home and this was not home, and I used to think I was crazy when I was little, so I would never tell anybody this until I told my mom once and she was like oh, we could easily be from the stars or a different planet in the universe, and that's actually what got me interested in physics is because of that one conversation I've always felt like we were sort of didn't belong to Earth, and I know that opens up. That's just a weird like statement on the side, but like I've always felt that way that we belong somewhere else. And maybe that's just a weird like statement on the side, but like I've always felt that way that we belong somewhere else and maybe that's the part of history that they don't want us to know is that we actually landed here?
Speaker 3:dude, 100%. I feel that way all the time I feel that way.
Speaker 2:Literally nothing can surprise me. Be like yeah, that tracks.
Speaker 1:I mean history with, like the pyramids and stuff, like we don't know how to explain how that happened. We don't know how to explain how those were.
Speaker 3:None of it, yeah, none of it or the fact that what they've learned is that they can generate fucking power?
Speaker 2:that the water that built a running water.
Speaker 1:Yeah I mean, it's just, it's just amazing and I mean, and then, like india and having math a long time before it's a, it's rooted in the religion of hinduism, is it's mathematics, everything, everything about that religion? So like that sort of thing. And like how did we have that knowledge that early on? Because, like Hinduism, is the oldest religion still existing? And that kind of thing has always confused me right, like how did that one culture have complex math rooted in their religion? And then, like the pyramids in Egypt? All of these things don't make sense with the history that we have given and to me as a young child it always pointed to we landed here, that we don't belong. We're slightly different from all of the other life forms on earth, the way we act, the way we have developed so quickly, all those things. So sorry for the side note again.
Speaker 2:I love it. It's kind of nice to talk about maybe the world's beginnings instead of the world that's going to end soon.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you know that leads us to like where we're at right now, where it's like maybe humanity doesn't end right, like maybe it won't be the end, it'll be, just we'll be somewhere else or in a different form, I don't. I don't really know how to say that correctly, but I I feel like we've survived things before. I don't know, it's just an inherent feeling. What do you guys?
Speaker 3:know about the Anunnaki. I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 3:All right, that is a topic for another day, but I'm going to challenge both of you. I'm going to challenge both of you to do a little study on the Anunnaki. There's a great YouTube show, I think it's called the Y Files, and they do like this little synopsis on the Anunnaki. It's not perfect, right, but it gives you a good baseline to really start your study. Once you do, I think you are going to get lost in the sauce of it all, and I can't wait for that journey. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm so down.
Speaker 1:One quick thing, though, zora, I wanted to talk about. I know that you are an estate planning attorney and I wanted to discuss a little bit about what that means. With the inheritance tax essentially being removed, do people still need estate planning? I guess I'm confused for myself. So I wanted to ask you that question before we sign off today, because we're about to run out of time and then for next week. I just wanted to say I think we should do a break from the gloom and doom with more gloom and doom, but in a funny sense of doing a podcast episode on Don't Look Up. What do you guys think we can just let them know, right?
Speaker 3:now. Oh my God, I think that would be really fun. I think that'd be really fun. I haven't seen it, so I'm down.
Speaker 1:All right that's our homework, but yes, on the estate planning, zora.
Speaker 3:So, to answer your question, yes, you still need to see planning. Even if the estate tax exemption is extended or even eliminated, you still need a plan for what happens for your assets. A lot of the loss that comes in for people has nothing to do with the estate tax and it has everything to do with procedural costs that come in like probate or not having a plan for your family members, who maybe don't have financial literacy, or receiving government services or any of these other things that you don't have a plan for. That's going to cost you more in your wealth than you know in many instances the estate tax wealth. So, while the estate tax pinging is going to benefit a lot of people who already have estate plans in a really, you know, positive way for them, it isn't going to stop the need for estate planning. It's just going to make it easier for people with a lot of money to not have to do as much of the rigmarole of protecting that money from taxes.
Speaker 3:That's it, the average person. The average person wasn't being impacted by the estate tax's it? The average person, the average person wasn't being impacted by the estate tax per se. The average person was being impacted by everything else around the business of people getting sick and dying, and so the average person, everybody. Let me be clear everybody still needs an estate plan, and the average person even more so. So we shouldn't get caught up in the lie that is oh, there's no estate tax, so I don't need an estate plan. And the average person even more so. So we shouldn't get caught up in the lie that is oh, there's no estate tax, so I don't need an estate plan.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm definitely one of those average people, so I am absolutely going to make sure I am doing that, because who knows what's going to happen. But I think this is a good point for us to wrap up for this week and you know we're going to have fun next week instead of focusing on the doom and gloom that we all are consuming 24 seven between our phones, our laptops and the big screens yeah, let's watch. Don't Look Up and then talk about that. Compared to now, how's that sound, ladies? Sounds great, amazing. So check us out on socials. Send this to your friends If you have any comments whatever. We hope that you enjoy the convo as much as we do and we'll chat with you guys later. Bye, see you next week.