The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives + The OSCARS recap!

We have been gone for two week so we JAMMED this episode packed to the gills with hot takes galore. We obviously had to break down this year's Oscars and all the fashion and the legends (Nicole Kidman MY GOD) and the big winners (Michael B Jordan) and losers. ALSO...MomTok is back! And apparently DadTok is trying to be a thing too. Why? Please god, why? ANYWAYS.... We also talk about the upcoming season of the Bachelorette and how we see Taylor's personality handling the big responsibility of CARRYING an entire FRANCHISE. In other news, Zach's dad LOVES Age of Attraction so we had to discuss that, duh. Love may not be blind but it does have an age limit . WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED? There is so much more to talk about so just download and play in your car or at home or on a walk or bike ride or workout or loudly without headphones while you board your next flight! DO IT! Just kidding, don't. 

Love you all and enjoy!

Z+K

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Little Coffee Chats with Zach and Kaylee. My name is Zach Mann.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

And my name is Kaylee Mann.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

And we've missed you.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

We've missed you guys. It's been like an accidental two-week hiatus. And it was accidental kind of, but also like had a feeling it was gonna happen, and then it definitely happened.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

We didn't want to tell you because we didn't want you to get sad.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

I know. It's actually probably so hard to go two weeks without listening to us, but thank you for bearing with us.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

But we're here, we're back and better than ever. And we're back actually from a couple trips. So that's why we missed last week.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Oh my lord. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Hayley. Where were you?

SPEAKER_01 0:45

I feel like I've just done my usual holiday routine because I actually have. I was in Ohio for six days, five, six days, came back. I was home for what, two nights, and then we went to Palm Springs.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Were you uh looking for the cast of Love is Blind while you were in Ohio? Didn't you drive? Didn't you drive through Columbus?

SPEAKER_01 1:08

Yeah, we drove through Columbus. Okay, so I went to Cincinnati first, stayed with my parents, and then I drove up to Youngstown with two of my friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

In Cincinnati, for all those who don't know Ohio very well is southern Ohio. Yes, southwest Ohio. Is that what you would call it?

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

And then we, me, Lauren, and Alex drove up to Youngstown. North. North. And that takes a little over four hours. And then, you know, we made some stops along the way. We stopped in Germantown Village. Is that what it's called? Germanto Germantown? Whatever. In Columbus. So when we were there, yes, you were like, keep your eyes out. Keep your eyes curled. Love is blind, cast members. Didn't see anyone there.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Well, Alex wasn't there because he's in Florida, he's in Arizona. Maybe he's in New Zealand in his uh safe house.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Who knows where the hell that guy is?

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Is that what he called a safe house? I would be snow.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah, he well, that's one of his goals is to have a safe house in New Zealand. Um yeah, anyway, then we were in Youngstown, then we drove back the next day, and then I spent the last few days in in Cincinnati with my parents. Awesome. And then came back to LA. And I just have to say, we need more direct flights on Delta between Los Angeles and Cincinnati.

unknown 2:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

The red eye is the only option through Delta that is nonstop from LA. From LA to Cincinnati. And it leaves at 10 p.m., which means you land just before 5 a.m. Eastern Time, which is really only like 2 a.m. our time. And it is so jarring. And then on the way back, you leave Ohio at 6 a.m. and land in LA around 8:20, 8:30 a.m., which means you're getting up at like 3:30 a.m. And anyway, my point is the flight is always full.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

It's always full. There used to be another plane that left at like 9, 10 or something. Right. And the red eye used to be more of a red eye that left actually like around 11 something.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Closer to midnight, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

It is so anyway, that is to say, the way back that day that I landed, oh, I was just out of it all day. It's like I might as well have come back from London or Paris. Like the way that it just knocks my body out is just, ooh. Anyway, then two nights at home and and off to Palm Springs to spend time with your parents.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

We went to the uh P Peribus. What do I call it?

SPEAKER_01 3:51

PNB.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

No, no, no, I that was wrong. BNP Peribus uh Indian Wells open. And we got to see a couple uh legends in the making. Sinner, Yannick Sinner, and Carlos Alcaraz. Uh Carlos lost, but Yannick won. And yeah, we had so much fun in Palm Springs. That was great. The weather trip. Guys, the weather in LA, in the whole southwest from I think probably LA to Phoenix. Oh boy, not good. Not good. Super hot. It's March. It's breaking records by like 10 degrees. Not like a degree, but we're talking 10 degree record breakers.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Yeah, massive. We had really, though, for us, a perfect palm spring trip top to bottom. Excellent food, the best company ever. I had never been to a tennis tournament before and I had so much fun. What'd you think of it? Oh, I loved it. I mean, aside from it being just so sweltering in the direct sun, um, we had such great seats that I could see everything really well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

You can really see this if the ball's in or out. Like who can be a little bit more?

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Yeah, we could really see from where we were sitting. It was awesome. And I'm just like, oh, tennis is a sport that I could totally get behind going to more events for. Yeah. I like a live sporting event.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Kaylee likes the air-conditioned, uh, never-ending Vouve Clico uh champagne in a private bathroom with a Toto toilet.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Who are you? I see nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

At this age, that is a proper experience for a sporting game.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

The entire that venue is beautiful and it's high-end and it's really comfortable, and they do a good job with the whole grounds. They were fantastic. And we found out that at max capacity, which they broke their record, is 58,800. Now, not obviously in one stadium in a time, but on the grounds. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

What else do they use? Do they ever have like music festivals or anything there? Do they have music events or just tennis?

SPEAKER_00 5:53

I mean, they could, but that's a tennis venue. Yeah. So they probably do other tennis things there. Like I'm sure the juniors play there and other maybe colleges do tournaments there.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Other tennis things.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Yeah. That's but uh the property was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

So that's great, and it was obviously great having you home.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

We watched so many shows. So you guys, you know, when Kaylee's gone, I'm trying to catch up on stuff or watch new things. So we kind of have a pot parry of things to talk about later on.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

I mean, I actually feel like I'm super behind. You are behind. I go to Ohio and it's like there's an old Mark Twain quote where it's like, if you ever, I don't know, feel like Mark time is going too slow or something like that, or fast, just go to Cincinnati where everything's like seven years behind.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Oh, you feel like time's going too fast? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

So I mean, honestly, it's like, I don't know. I'm so behind on things. I just am.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

And with what if I'm with family and I'm with, you know, your parents or something. It's like whatever anyone else wants to do or watch takes precedent. I'm like, I have a million shows that I need to catch up on, but I need to like not be interrupted for like my Bravo and stuff. Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

And I was able to watch Bravo here because I'm bored, you know, in between taking care of Dolly, whatever she wanted to do. Um I would watch uh Peacock or Bravo. So okay, let's let's jump into uh what happened last night, which was the big um final the Super Bowl of red carpet season. The Oscars.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

One, two, three.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

The Oscars.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

What'd you think? I think it was like a red carpet first.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Oh, red carpet. Okay, so my hot take is that I believe that the Vanity Fair after party has better looks than the actual red carpet. People loosen up a bit, they take more risks. It's also more of a variety of people. So you have models mixed in there and other actors who are like the it actors right now, right? Like the cast of American Love Story, they're there looking fabulous. Sarah Pigeon wore Calvin Klein, which is so cool. I love that. Um, like Kendall Jenner's there looking amazing in this turquoise new custom Chanel gown.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

And so are people changing outfits like that were at the award show?

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Oh, yeah. They're not wearing the same thing. No way.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Because it's a whole other carpet, a whole other photo.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Nicole Kidman looked incredible.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Nicole is looking better than ever.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Did you see her walk behind the Bezos? Yeah, I did. Couple, and then like Lauren and Jeff tried to like motion her, and she's straight up in her, like, like in a good way. They were like, come say, yeah. It was like a beckoning thing. Right, like this. And she was just like in her moment, like being guided to where her like, oh, I'm sorry. Ready for the camera. I don't know you. Bald, bald guy and weird lady.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

I bet she just had her eyes on like where she needed to go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

No, and her hair is my favorite hair. She's had in really long time.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Which is a wig, probably.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Yeah. Yes, that's long been the rumor about Nicole's that she's been wearing wigs. I think a lot of celebrities wear wigs all the time. If you're like constantly having to change your hair for things, like God knows, just protect it and wear a wig.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Well, how much time do you have to like do all your hair too? Like the amount of hair work that is required to do all those things, if you could just put a put a wig on that someone has already pre-styled, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Oh, also like consistency.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Is that gonna be much faster, wouldn't you say? It would, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Yeah, it would be faster.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

So that just it's a useful exercise. I'm pro-wig. Yeah, I'm pro-wig.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Well, okay, so sorry, we but the actual awards show, you know, I think it was like pretty clean and simple and straightforward. Um for wins, I was really happy Michael B. Jordan won. That's who I wanted to win.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

I I wasn't totally surprised that one battle after another won best picture, but I was hoping for centers.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

Yeah, I feel like everything kind of went the way we thought it would go. Yeah. Almost down to a T.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Although my ballot sucks.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Well, there's 24, 24. You don't know every category, which is okay. Like you didn't know the short form doc winner or the short form.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

I was guessing based off of titles. I didn't do research. No, but that's okay. I tried to just go off of random instinct.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

But I did I did feel like once we watched one battle, which was obviously after we had seen Sinners, we felt like it was gonna win. Just because as like a quality film, um, all the things made sense for it to win an Oscar versus it being like sinners where you're like, oh, you need people who are maybe kind of boring to like the music, like the vampire stuff, like the hyperviolence. Like that's a tougher pill to swallow than a more traditional violent film. I mean, you know what I mean? Like it just felt like oh, okay. And also, like again, PTA, it's it's still a masterpiece of all the things that are filmmaking, from acting to directing to editing to cinematic. It's like everything is just at the highest level consistently throughout the film. So I don't think it's like a a no one was shocked. It would have been cool, maybe. I don't know. Like, what would it have been cool if Sinners won? Or it's like maybe. Yeah, I think I love that Ryan won an on.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Like, I'm a more of a like Yeah, he won Best Original Screenplay.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Ryan won best original screenplay, his actor, his lead actor wins best actor. Um, PTA had um oh, and his DP. Oh, and his DP wins. So like that film got so much love. One battle also got lots of love.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Um soundtrack or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Soundtrack, score, score, score, thank you. Score score, even Frankenstein won awards, which that was to me the biggest shock because when we watched it.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Okay, that's where I really lost out on the ballots, is like I just didn't even think about. I was like, whatever.

unknown 11:42

Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

I know. I thought Frankenstein was so bad that I was just like, no one's gonna take this movie seriously.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I guess the makeup was really intense. That's a good point. But I'm like, for one person, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Also, it's like it better be.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

It better be. That what else is it gonna be?

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Well, we talked about this with like uh our our friend um Ellen Miražnik, my friend Lily and her mom, where it's like, oh, so if you don't do a period piece, you can never win an Oscar for best costumes, you know what I mean? Like it's like only gonna be for like period piece films, and uh like you know, I mean like British period piece, like you know, and so then she wins, she won Ellen won for um Oppenheimer, which is a period. Like it is funny where these are that these these movies are literally everything's being built for them from scratch. The sets for everything from Marty Supreme, I mean you just independent film, you just go, where's the location that exists? Pinball place, great, shoot there, versus like we're gonna invent something from nothing. Spectacular. The artisans are incredible, but I don't think it's fair that like modern stuff doesn't get as much love as like, oh, it's Frankenstein, so it's gonna win, right? Yeah, you have more money and more space, you know. It's like also make believe versus like build me something that's gonna look like it's not a set.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Holy shit. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

That's my take.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

But do you think the gin bottles from Wuthering Heights will get nominated for the Oscars next year?

SPEAKER_00 13:08

They should win Razzie. That should be like a uh guest star. Yeah, like a Razzie for best. Uh have people talked about the gin bottles at all? I just can't believe that moment.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

It's just our entire theater cracked up.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

That's not a good sign.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

That's not a good sign at all.

unknown 13:25

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

But yeah, I mean, I thought the Oscars were great. I'm honestly like there's a part of me that just feels like kind of tired of it all too, which is a natural feeling after this many award shows and award season where I'm just like, I'm a little bit disenchanted with the fame of it all, where like it's all they have to campaign so hard and we see so much of them, and they're like, I both I love it and I tire of it because it's just that point in the season where it's like take a breather.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

Well, you feel that way about even Taylor Swift sometimes where you're like, Yeah, of course I've gotten enough of you. I love this, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

I don't want to get too tired of you. I just like relax a little bit, and I get concerned for people's health too. I'm like, this can't be good. Right. Uh oh, I mean, oh fewer bones on the red carpet, please. Yeah, that's a whole other topic for another time, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Everyone's on GLP ones, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, what's our next subject? That was great.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Well, we were gonna talk about Mormon Wives and the Bachelorette.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Oh, well, speaking of GLP ones.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Semi-related, I haven't gotten to that episode yet, but once I do, I think I I will talk about it more.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Yeah, so well, let's set it up as um we are going to be recapping every episode of The Bachelorette starting after next week. Next week we have two episodes a week.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Oh man, my back to two episodes a week. Well, and and Bachelorette is on Sunday night, so we can record on Monday. Oh, perfect, two episodes on Mondays.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Oh jeez. Okay, but yeah, so The Bachelorette is back, but let's talk about the uh secret lives of Mormon wives. And let me just say at one time only a mom talk. Mom talk. But let me say dad talk. I wish they called it paw talk.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Ew, pa talk. One thing I never need and never need to see is dad talk. I never I don't care about the men, I don't care about their lives, I don't care to see them try to achieve any kind of level of fame that their wives have. I think again, we need to remind ourselves of watching the secret lives of Mormon wives is more like watching a documentary than it is necessary, necessarily a reality TV show.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Because it's like, oh, what happens when the women you married when they were teenagers already have had like two, three seconds, the women you impregnated and then had to marry have kids and they start to achieve fame, power, and make money, and they don't need you anymore, and it totally flips the foundation of what they have been taught their whole entire lives. Then what happens? Well, we're seeing like a major power dynamic shift, and the men kind of grappling for power and control, and freaking Jordan, oh my god, in his South Park head, just trying so hard to like become his own like social media star and reality TV star. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

It reeks of desperation. Yeah, these boys, no one gives a rat about you. About first of all, if they do give anything about you, it's about how much they want your partners to break up with you and divorce you. Like no one likes any of these couples. They all got married to someone that they wanted to have sex with, so they could. It's not a healthy relationship for most of them. It is really sad. I don't care how much ketamine you take, your relationship is in a bad place. And I am just shook that they have the audacity to even pretend that dad talk is a thing. And the way he talked about his manager and all this stuff, and they're gonna go on the freaking villa show. I'm like, who wants that? I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it to see if it's a train wreck and have all the girls just clown them because they are disgusting guys. I'm sorry to say that. I mean, I'm saying that because they show that, they show themselves.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

I mean their qualities are disgusting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Like they're more than welcome to prove me wrong, but unfortunately, when you watch them, they don't come across really well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

And the rest of them, I go, you're you would not be popular or on top of any other social chain if it weren't for your wives, and if it weren't for you being in Provo.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

That would it just would you're not gonna be the it guy anywhere else. Like it's just not happening. Yeah, and he even they even were saying, I think Jordan was like, we need to show like mom talk that they're not like not like they're not boss, but something about like, you know, there's room for dad talk too, like to like push them out of being on top, and it's so gross. I don't even care if they're saying it for drama for TV. There is something very deep-rooted about that because all of these men have been raised to believe that they should be the dominant person in their family, and and now they all have to grapple with you're not right. So who are you without that?

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Right. Also, I'm over just the term mom talk. I know you hate that when dad talk was mentioned and uttered, it was like, wait, I thought like this is yeah, I was like, mom talk is bad enough to then make up another thing because like that doesn't make any sense. None of that makes sense to me. I guess I've never quite understood how they use mom talk and dad talk.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I guess I mean I think they use mom talk interchangeably for both what they originally meant as them being together and making an appealing group on TikTok as mom talk.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

And then I think they also now use it as like being a cast together on a show. So they can use mom talk in like a couple different ways without saying like being a part of this cast, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

And I've tried to convince you, and I think you agree with me, is that they're more powerful individually with their actual names and saying mom talk, which is like obviously gonna it's like saying, Well, that's true now that was not necessarily true when they first started. No, season one makes sense to talk about it a lot. So it's like, where'd you come from? Oh, it's her mom talk, oh, it's mom talk, oh, there's what it is. But then season two, it's like have your own, and it keeps going.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Well, what are your instincts on what do you think Taylor Frankie Paul will be like as The Bachelorette?

SPEAKER_00 19:56

I'm very worried it's gonna be bad. Well, they're gonna have to edit a lot of it. I think she's gonna be very indecisive. I think it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of it's gonna be a lot of guys in speedos, guys in like shirtless men, in the trailers at least, right? Where it's gonna be like, we're gonna, it's spicy and sexy and all that because she's supposed to be the sex positive Mormon girl, right? And so it's gonna be so they're gonna try so hard, but then she's gonna be like I think very indecisive. I think she's gonna be fairly boring and not really have a big POV. And most of her time with these guys will be a lot of her not really knowing what she wants, and maybe just I don't know. I'm not I'm worried about the season being boring. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

My main concern is her general indecision and indecisiveness, like she just isn't someone who seems to take her own life by the horns. I think she will recognize her toxic patterns and behaviors and just kind of like she, I mean, she's been to therapy for them. She went to like a therapy like retreat, but I think she is someone who finds comfort in the toxic patterns because that's what she knows. So she kind of always goes back to it. And we see that happen in the current season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I know as of like an hour before recording, the production for the next season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives has been halted because there was an incident between Dakota and Taylor where I think there was a 911 call, and now there's a domestic violence issue that's being looked into. And it's that kind of behavior. In the very first episode we ever saw of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, she had a domestic violence issue with someone else in that first episode, and she got arrested in the first episode. That's right. So there are just certain things about her that I'm just I worry that they are taking advantage of someone, like production wise, taking advantage. Of someone who is not fully mentally and emotionally equipped to handle the weight of what this show will be for her. Right. I'm worried about that. Now, like entertainment-wise, I think it's not going to be necessarily about love, but it will be interesting to watch her navigate this. But I think that comes with public interest of her failing in front of us. Right. And then it makes you question the entire series in the franchise of The Bachelor and Bachelorette.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

And also the men, like who what who are the men that will be interested in her? They'll for sure try to find some Mormon boys, is my guess, because that's going to be interesting to see. But I do feel like it's going to be a lot of like gotchas and a lot of like, let's get uh uh a lot of cliffhangers, a lot of crying, a lot of like devastation and misery. But I honestly think that the show is gonna be her best chemistry will be with Jesse Palmer than with I'm serious, she'll probably feel safe with him because he'll be such like a calming presence and like a coach and a guide. Because The Bachelor is not great anymore.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Uh, we don't look, uh, we haven't actually watched it in a few years.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

We don't watch it anymore because it's bad. It's bad, right? Also, the connections aren't real, right? We love Love Island because people are living together and they actually can fall in love, or at least fall in like, yeah. They get to know each other really, really well. On The Bachelor, they don't get to know them at all.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Love is blind like if you do accumulated a few hours with the person and think about it.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Love is blind, they do get pretty close too, which I think is really cool, which is why that's the best part of the show is that you do get to it is very unique in that.

unknown 23:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

But The Bachelor, it is like overproduced, under underhung out. Like they just don't hang out, like you said. Yeah. There's no private time. And then it also has this like very religious kind of Christian overtone or undertone or something that just makes it feel very like um makes women, it it like degrades women to the point of like, here's a giant black bar covering the female, the female anatomy.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

It's just makes it feel weird.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

It's just, yeah, it's like uh it's like someone, it's like uh the church is like watching the episodes and is like edit editing it.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Take that out, take yeah, exactly cover her up, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, yeah, while showing lots of it.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

And then it's just it's just I don't know, it rubs me the wrong way, but that's why we're excited to watch it and talk shit about it. Or maybe we'll love it. But I will switch my tone because I have been very I don't think um Taylor's that interesting of a person, which is fine, you don't have to be. Um, but I will be rooting for her to be well, especially after hearing about it.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

I'm just so worried she's gonna be so stressed out and like just on the show.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

I'm more worried about her like now with what's going on in her life and then she hasn't even aired yet.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah. So I'm not gonna like like a shit storm of everything happening at once, which like ultimately works out well for ABC and people tuning into the show, but like worried. I'm worried about the person.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Yeah. Hopefully, however, we'll be critical and judgmental. Well, I mean, we're gonna be honest. How about that? Yeah, and I hope that she's honest. I hope that the men that go on the show are honest too. Uh, but I do think we are in for a lot of people watching the show, and we're excited to give you guys our take.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Well, speaking of dating shows, we've also been watching Age of Attraction as urged by your father.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Chai Man loves Age of Attraction. Shy Man loves 54-year-old women. How about that?

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Maybe I think that's what it is. So Age of Attraction is on Netflix, and it is a different version of Love is Blind. It's like, does age matter when it comes to dating? And as we all know, yeah, of course it does matter. Like, age is not just a number, age is experience.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Age becomes something that matters, I think. Like as the age gets bigger, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Yeah. And so I, you know, we're four episodes in of the five that are out so far. And what I my overall feeling about this show is like it's so devoid of any real gravity of emotion. Yeah, it just feels pretty empty to me. Like, I'm not really rooting for anyone. I don't feel connected to anything or anyone. I don't think any of these things are gonna work out. I'm just kind of like yeah, that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

The real winner of the show so far has been Chai Man. Aside from Chai Man is the city of Whistler, BC.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Oh my god, I want to go to Whistler.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Whistler, Canada, British Columbia look fantastic. That the resort.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Stunning. I want to do all of those activities. I want to. That's that's what I think camping is. Stay in a nice lodge to sit in the most beautiful setting ever.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

With men half your age.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

I have no interest in being around men half my age.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

But I I think what's you're so it's so funny because it's almost like what Love is Blind is is a show where it's like, I've fallen, I have fallen in love with you because of who you are in the inside. Yeah. And not to see you and deal with whatever that could be. This show is more like, okay, I could I could basically have sex with you no matter what. Yeah, yeah, I could have sex with that. Even if you're like 45, 55, like I could fuck you. Like that's through the show. Yeah. Oh, depending on how old you are. Okay, I could. Like it doesn't have there is no the emotional connection doesn't have to happen.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

It's more like as high.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

No, the stakes are will I sleep with you if I if it's revealed, or will I sleep with you, period? Then, oh, the realization of the age equals, is this even realistic?

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

But that's the show.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

And uh that's yeah, and there's such like um the women, especially who are older than their partners, become really there's one woman in particular, but I think all of them, even one woman who rejected someone because of the age difference was too big. The women, uh aging is so different for women versus men, yeah, where it is something you think about from the second you're like 13. You're already thinking about being 40, basically, and like, you know, how do I maintain youth and prevent wrinkles and blah, blah, blah. We're just kind of always taught to think about ourselves from the outside. And for someone who is like this woman who's 54, like you're she's like, what do you what do you think about what people think when we're together at the gym? Do they think, do you think about that? Like, I'm thinking they probably think you're my son. And if not, like then they're thinking, what the hell is going on here?

SPEAKER_00 28:43

She's falling apart. That's not she's falling apart. That's not a great way to think about. And that's not good.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

And I just get it. It's like you don't want to be have to like tell people your age because it does make people view you differently.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

It's the fun fact about yourself. Yeah, that's a fun fact about you. Well, I'm dating a man half my age.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

People think about you, and look, it's okay to do that, but realize it comes with that. Right. It comes with that. It's not it's just how it is. And I think the realization is that's too much for some people. But I think 45 and 22, that didn't look as that looks I haven't seen that be too weird visually. The 20, I think somehow a 27-year-old man and a 54-year-old woman, or a 54-year-old man and 27. There's something there where like in your mid-40s, it's just different. The mid-50s starts to be like, oh, you easily could have an a son or daughter your age. And she does.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

And she has a son, I think it's two years who's two years older than her now, the 27-year-old.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Yeah, yeah, and like that's just I think at that point your brother. That's a little weird.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

I think I even felt like that when I was dating, I was like, I don't want to date anyone younger because I have a younger brother. Like that, I always was like, no, thank you. I always went older. Have you ever withheld your age or like recently felt like, oh, I have to, like, I should just not really I'm proud of my age, even though today you guys I have to admit, Kaylee, she did some makeup on me. No, I put some tinted sunscreen on you and just a little bit of powder.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Because I was like, you know what? I feel like I need to live my best life on camera. I want to see what it looks like with uh now a little bit of powder.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

I could have done some concealer, I could have done some contouring. Yeah, you don't have to go all in. Okay, I'm saying these are things I could do. Just I'm just trying to say I barely do.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

No, but I feel like it's good to get a little that, and so you know, so all I'm trying to say is I am getting a little bit not like self-conscious per se, but it's like, hey, if something could help, why not?

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Well, being on camera, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, yeah. So uh, but I guess what I'm trying to get at is um I'm I'm 42.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

At 54, whatever I look like at 54, I feel like I already think that kids 20-year-olds look like children.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Oh, yeah, I have no idea if you're in high school or college anymore. Now I really don't know. So, but if you're to ask me the question in return, which seems like you're not setting me up for that, but I'm gonna answer anyway.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Wait, what's my setup for you?

SPEAKER_01 31:23

No, like have I had to conceal my age recently.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Oh, oh, oh. Oh, I know you have. Have you tried to cone? Okay, have you concealed your age recently?

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Yes. So I will say that in in general in acting classes, like no one really talks about their exact age. It's kind of skirted around, like just no one really gets into the specifics. Right. And then when I was on set in October, I was casted as a college student. So I was casted as someone who was 21. And everyone else on set who was in it was 22, 23, 24, 25. Yeah. And like no one directly asked me my age, but I just really skirted around it because I knew I was like, if I tell them that I'm whatever age you are, whatever age I am, they will be like it's kind of shocking. It actually, I felt like would take people out of the experience and like out of just like working with me.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

So did you lie?

SPEAKER_01 32:30

No, I never said my age. No one asked you. No one asked me, really. Okay, okay. No, I was just like, yeah, that's crazy, or whatever. You know, it was just like random. I would just keep it way more generic. No one asked me.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

I think when you say your age, you're confident in whatever age that is. So when you're like 22 and you're like, I'm 22 to someone who looks older, they're gonna be like that, you know, it's like they're gonna be jealous of how young I am. And then when you get older, you want to like shock someone with your age, like, oh, I'm 42, like, whoa, how can you be 42? But now that I have so much gray in my beard, I don't I think most people who would be shocked probably would think I'm like in my 50s at this point. No, no, because you think of because you think of people, like you just don't get it. Like when you're 30, you don't realize that in 10 years, which will go by like this, you'll be 40 and have gray, and it's like you don't feel any different.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Anyway, anyway, wow, age of attraction. Drop it or don't.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Try man's tryman's favorite show.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Well, next well, more of our like music stuff. Oh, yeah, really exciting new music happening.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

We had so much new music come out. Also, I want to do a shout out. SNL has been really great too. Sorry, yeah, two last two episodes have been really good, but Ryan Gosling's episode was fan freaking tastic. So, you guys, please watch that. I want to talk about SNL at some point again because I love that show. You love SNL, and there's music on that. But yes, so we've missed so two new music Fridays in a row, or in the last month or so, we've gotten new Noah Khan.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Yes, we have now two new songs off of his new album. And the one that came out this week, Porch Light, he co-wrote with Aaron Desner. I think it's like the first track they worked on together. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Oh boy, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Which makes that mean the spidey senses go. It's called Porch Light. Taylor Swift sings a lot about leaving the porch light on. He's singing about leaving the porch light on, and he's the only person who turns it off in the morning. He co-wrote this with Aaron Desner. He's singing about I'll pray for you. She sings in songs, I don't, you don't gotta pray for me. There are some like lyrical parallels, which sure, maybe they're normal things to sing about, I guess. But I just start to think, could there, would there ever be a Taylor Swift feature on a Noah song?

SPEAKER_00 34:49

I would love it. I would freaking lose my mind.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

I would love it.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

As long as it's not some slow, slow, slow thing. Honestly, I'm sorry. I want a little bit a little bit of tempo.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Well, yes, but I was gonna say he's worked with a lot of our favorites already. Gracie, great, great, Casey, great, Olivia? Did he work with Olivia on a song?

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Well, posty.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Posty. I'm just saying, like it's kind of setting things up for a Taylor Switch collaboration. And I would just be super into that. I think they'd sound great together. I also would love her to dip back into her folklore evermore sounds. Just for a little feature.

unknown 35:41

Oh my god, that'd be awesome. I know.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

We're gonna go see Noah at the Rose Bowl, whenever that is.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

But then he has his documentary coming out on Netflix April 13th.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Which we missed because it's gonna be his shows that he did last time, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Yeah, he said that the cameras followed him around for a year. So it's gonna be about, I don't think it's just gonna be like a concert documentary. I think it's gonna be about a year of his life.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Yeah, so it's gonna be like a true doc, like a 90-minute documentary. I think so. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Well, that's my impression just from the quick glance I did at his Instagram post about it.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Uh oh my god, I'm so excited for that.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

I know. Yes, it's a birthday present just for you.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

I know. The day before my birthday, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

From Noah to you.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

Uh what else? Oh, yeah. Olivia Rodrigo has a new album coming out. That's gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

They're teasing the third album. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

I think that's gonna have a huge track in it. I think she's gonna have a huge, a huge single um from there. Yeah. I'm very interested to see the sound, like what sonically she's gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

I know, because you we loved what was the first one? Sour. Sour. Oh, driver's license. What was the second one called? Um you weren't into that as much. That was not really your sound. It's kind of too like punk rock preteen for you.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

But without like great guts.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Well, I love vampire. Yeah, it was just like not for me. Yeah, but third, it could be really good.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Honestly, sophomore albums are really tough.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

I know. And she crushed it. And there's also new Casey. A new Casey Musgraves album coming. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Dry Spell is the new song, and I I love, I feel like I know all the words already.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

So I don't know about you guys, but Kaylee and I have uh had a chance to go see some of these artists that we talk about a bunch, like Sabrina and Casey Musgraves. And uh Kaylee, my question for you is when you go and see them live, like does it change your opinion of them as a musician?

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Yeah, it usually just makes me fall in love with them and become like so much more obsessed with them. Casey, of all of the people I've seen, Casey is the person whose vibe I would most like to have because it's so not me. I'm like, I run very stressed out. And she, I feel like, is genuinely just like having fun. She's chill, she's so gorgeous. Her like her vibe comes through in her voice, where it's just like such a it lives in such a unique place. I can't really figure out her placement. It's like not fully chess voice and it's not really fully head voice, but it's not a mix either. I don't know what she does.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

She's like an alien when it comes to unique, amazing.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

And I'm just like, God, I just want to be you. I don't feel that way. I don't want to be Taylor Swift, I don't want to be Beyonce, I don't want to be Lady Garga. That's too hard. But Casey, which I think is even harder in a lot of ways, is to just be like cool and walk around barefoot and singing and like because what she likes is just so genuine. And she's always liked the things that she likes and celebrated the type of music that she has celebrated, and oh, it just it feels really authentic to who she is.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

I was gonna say, yeah, authenticity with Casey. She just comes across as like the cool girl that like everyone wants to be or be with. Like you said about um uh who is the guy we said who everyone wants to there's a the male be or be with? Yeah, even like the men would want to be with. Who is the guy? Oh my god, I can't remember this. I don't remember, I remember saying that it wasn't Ryan Gosling, it was somebody. Anyway, the point is Casey's just also a lyricist. She is so fun. Her she's so brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

She's always stories, her turn of phrase is always like so you go, whoa, I never thought about it.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Like, without it being corny, like it's not corny, it's not corny.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Because she could never be corny, she's too fucking cool.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

Yeah, no, that's true. It's like, and and what from following her on social and like seeing her um with her dog, like what why I love Casey and like Noah, like they love dogs, and now that I'm a dog person, it's just like you know you're like a cool, you just know, oh, you love your dog just as much as I love my dog, you're you're cool. But following her, like, she also like doesn't really think she's really cool, which I think is part of the cool that's gonna come across as like I'm a bad guy.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

If someone thinks they're cool, that's automatically not cool, right?

SPEAKER_00 40:22

Because she does like she has like a self-deprecation about her that Sabrina also kind of has. And yeah, we were saying this as we were talking and hearing the lyrics, especially to the this first track from Casey. Was like Sabrina, although has not invented, and Casey was doing this earlier, yes. Okay, this has been Casey's whole MO. Okay, but Sabrina really pushed the envelope all the way to where like Taylor started having more fun with her lyrics and be more sexual, would, for example.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

And now Casey's first track about a dry spell, and it's just like I love seeing it because not only is it fun, like it's fun music and it's kind of funny, yeah, but also it's like there's like a power to it that owning that sexuality allows, I think, the something creative about that too. I don't know, there's something that's happening where I go, these songs are fun and different and unique, they're not being sung the same way it would be if it was like a song about I got my heart broken or like I miss my youth or whatever. It's like when you're talking about like a dry spell or like your new boyfriend or like whatever tears is about. Um there's like something fun about that that's like unique. Like that's what I love.

SPEAKER_01 41:31

I love pop music, but I also love pop music that's like doing something that's it's saying something interesting in an interesting way that's fun.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah, I mean that's fun. Yeah, I think it's just fun, just fun yeah, and the songs in it being smash hits, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Oh, look at that.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Oh, Marvin Gay, let's get it on. That worked out pretty well. No, but I mean, there's something about that like don't don't be afraid. Uh anyway. Yeah, it's exciting times.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

It is exciting times.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

And Coachella is soon, and Sabrina will be headlining for Coachella Bieber, Sabrina, Carol G. I just looked that up. Oh, yeah, we're not going, but uh I'm very fascinated to see what happens there. Yeah, what is Bieber gonna do? Is he gonna be in his underwear playing for 90 minutes? One can only hope. I kind of hope so too. Yeah, just do something.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

That was a good preview.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

He'll just pocket all that money, he'll go out there, no backup and no nothing.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Better than what Frank Ocean did a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_00 42:34

Didn't he break his ankle though?

SPEAKER_01 42:37

No, that was Kid Cuddy.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Oh, yeah, Kid Cuddy broke his ankle.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Jumping off of one of the stages. It's those Nike Cortez shoes. I had those and I rolled my ankles all the time with them because the the footbed goes over the sole a little bit, so you're kind of teetering. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Kid Cuddy. I'm become a big Kid Cuddy fan.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

I love Kid Cuddy. I think Frank claimed to have broken a leg or something. I think the whole thing was just kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

You like hid behind something and there was a camera. Anyway, I don't know. It makes me worried though. I think we went through everything, huh? We did. You're gonna sip on this. What are you sipping on? Sip on this. Sip on this.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

What are you sipping on this week?

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Well, I drank two shots of espresso before this show or during the show, which is a little crazy considering.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

At what time?

SPEAKER_00 43:28

4 30.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Angel.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

PM. I know it was bad. Um, but you kind of brought it up earlier, but I am sipping on gas station snacks. Well, duh, hello. Kaylee came home from Ohio and went to this town, German town. We talked about this for a second, and there's a place called Grandpa's Cheese Factory. No, tell me.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

It's not in Columbus. It's just outside of Youngstown before you get to it.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

Grandpa's Grandpa's Cheese Barn. Cheese barn. And she brought back a Imagine if you were to take a graveyard, you know, graveyard sodas with like every single flavor. Imagine a graveyard of all the best snacks in like the um the uh the the bulk, the bulk candy, the bulk snack section, and just make a giant mix of it, but only the unhealthy ones, the yogurt-covered pretzels, the little peanut butter chocolate things, all that fun stuff. Mini buckeyes, mini buckeyes. That's what it is. Circus cookies, freaking circus cookies, the pink ones, the best ones. You guys this mix is insane. It was so good. I think it gave me a horrible indigestion.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

It is legal crack cocaine.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

You guys, it's drugs, it is drugs, it is what is uh, yeah, it's like GLP ones were invented to help us from protect us from yes, you're supposed to not really eat that too. No, but it was so good, it was so fun, so good. We actually gave a bag to my dad. He loved it.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

We gave him the buckeye mix.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

Yeah, the buckeye mix. I think he liked it not as much as the uh as age of attraction, but it's up there, it's up there for sure. But that's not simple.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

It's not even a gas station space.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

On the way to Palm Springs, we stopped at a 7-Eleven that was really, really nice. And uh they had like I want to say 12 flavors of uh slushies, yes, which blew up.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

I saw this hack, which I was gonna do it, but there was someone putting away stuff, and this is before I befriended them. Someone putting away stuff, and I didn't want to get caught. Yeah, but someone on TikTok, they're like hack at I think 7-Eleven or anywhere. I'm gonna start going into gas stations more, is getting like a huge like fountain diet coke and then doing just a little bit of a lime slushy into it.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

So fun.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

So brilliant. Oh my god, that sounds so good to me.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

The last time you were at a gas station in LA, I was already a creepy man tried to talk to you and I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

The one closest to our house, yes. They don't have fountain.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

No, you have to be like on the 10 fruit, you have to be on a you have to be 60 miles outside.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

You need to be at a big, a nice new 7-Eleven, is what you need. I'm gonna look up the new 7-Elevens near me.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

Okay. Uh that's what I'm sipping on. Angel, what are you sipping on?

SPEAKER_01 46:09

I am sipping on a semi-annual humbling blemish.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

So this happens to me about it, used to be once a quarter, but I think I'm down to like once every six months now. And usually I get like one horrible cystic acne on my chin, and I'm like, please don't happen during during like when I have my head shots or when whatever.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Or when I'm supposed to be 21.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Or when I'm supposed to be 21, anything like that. Well, this time it's right here. That's fine. It hurts so badly though. I think it's actually like an ingrown hair that then I messed with and now it's like infected and swollen.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

Oh, you want me to do something about it?

SPEAKER_01 46:54

No, because I think I have to leave it alone. Because I woke up and actually, because that was swollen, this part of my eye was swollen too. But I had I iced it and it got better.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Oh, yeah, it looks great.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

It hurts so bad. But but my my reasoning for why it is a good thing is like you just need to be humbled by your skin sometimes. Because you know, you can take the best care of your skin ever. You know, I am adamant with my skincare, and still it can go. This one little spot you've never thought of before, not happy. Yeah, deal with this. Sip on this cystic thing on this here? Like, why here? It hurts so good. Well, it looks good. You did a good job.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Oh yeah, I can well I can yeah, it covers your eyeball.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Great.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

It's like uh it's like one Mount Rushmore. It's like uh George Washington's head sticking out. No, it looks great. You look beautiful. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

I was trying to distract it away from it with other makeup.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

No one's gonna notice. You look beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

I just want to take like a little needle and like it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

You should put like a like light it a needle on fire and get it really hot and then singe it. And then singe them in.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

That sounds pretty good, actually.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

All right, you guys, we're getting way long in the two. Oh, sorry. We've gone down the rabbit hole of we could be, we could start. I mean, that's what you guys should we start an entire like uh health-focused podcast.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

No, you want to record a third one.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Didn't we talk about protein bars last time? Or protein?

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Oh, yeah, we did talk about the David Bars. We didn't actually talk about the David Bars that actually.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Next week we'll talk about David Bars.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

That's already another Chai Man.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Chai Man. You guys, my mom also loves heated rivalry so much and wore a heated rivalry um t-shirt, and people want to take a photo with her.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah, someone interrupted our dinner to take a photo.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Interrupted our dinner.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Oh, and the same dinner that I choked on a pee and had to take a couple of things. Oh yeah, I got bought to the crap.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

Kaylee almost needed the Heimlich maneuver on the pee that got caught in her windpipe. And the pee was like the size of her like people. It looks like this. Maybe the pea thought, maybe your body thought it was still inside you and it just moved.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

I wish I could cough this out right now.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

We gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

I gotta go. All right, we love you all so much. Thank you so much for listening. Please like, subscribe, share, download. Uh uh, download on your friend's phone, steal your friends' phones and their iPads and all the devices and download it. You guys, we are um getting some of our most listened to episodes ever. Thank you so much because of you guys. We love you all so much, and we can't wait to start having two episodes again every single week, including the Bachelorette Recaps.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Woo! Woo!

SPEAKER_00 49:41

All right, love you guys.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Love you guys. Bye