Euphoria for Noah Kahan in this Summer House!

On today's episode we finally have time to chat about our favorite thing, TELEVISION! haha

First up, the Netflix FLDS cult show, Trust Me: The False Prophet. WOW. We then get into the leaked audio from the Summer House reunion, again, WOW! Finally, Euphoria is back and BADDER than ever. Why can't we have nice things?

Noah Kahan's new sad and more sad album The Great Divide has finally been released. We discuss the music but more importantly the MAN. 

ENJOY!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of A Little Coffee Chats with Zach and Kaylee. My name is Zach Mann.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

And my name is Kaylee Mann. And Zach, how are you feeling right now?

SPEAKER_00 0:16

I am uh fresh from the dentist, so certain letters are a little bit hard.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

I feel like I'm always giggling during your welcome, welcome, welcome. Yeah. I think it's because I never really know how it's gonna come out.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Right.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

And you had just a brief look of panic after the first welcome. So I was just I was like, is he gonna make it through all three of them? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

The last time, I think I was just trying to see what words were difficult or letters. It's my left side if you can't tell. So cute. You guys have all been to the dentist, and sometimes, you know, you come back with a very, very what's the word? A very, very paralyzed man. Paralyzed, yeah, like a a numb, yeah, a numb face. And uh one time I had uh my tongue numb. That was very odd. That was dangerous. Like, don't don't go eating food with a tongue.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Oh, you really can't numb to that after your root canash?

SPEAKER_00 1:19

No, it was just like a regular filling.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Just got this idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

It was like right in a certain yeah, it was brutal. Uh, but I'm excited to be here today with you. Post spritten everywhere. It's bad. You guys, I am grotesque.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

No, you're not. I'm really proud of you. You're pushing. This is showbiz, and you are showing up, okay?

SPEAKER_00 1:39

It is.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

And the show must go on.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Uh Kaylee.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

We made it. We I I used an ice pack and we made a little post about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

The people voted. The people, the people voted. I probably should have worn the ice pack on this, just to start.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

If you want to go grab it, no, uh, you're not gonna restart.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

No, Kaylee. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Uh we have been watching some great shows in the last couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Holy crap.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

We haven't been talking about TV, and I think this week we're probably gonna really get into it.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Let's get into some TV. It's actually been difficult to watch everything because there's so much like Bravo is firing on all cylinders right now. Netflix has really great stuff. Euphoria's back. Yeah, we didn't watch last night's episode, but we should definitely talk about euphoria. Because you were sleeping for two hours.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

You guys, sometimes I fall, the F. I can't do the F.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Try it, try to say it.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Sometimes some sometimes I fall asleep.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Uh, and really, really go out. Last night I have not done that in a while. I woke up at deep sleep.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Almost 11 o'clock on the it was a very deep sleep. For me, I love it because I'm just like, oh, I'm gonna let whatever's playing keep playing in the background that I don't have to pay attention to, and I'm just gonna read. I know Kaylee's loving it. So nice.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Kaylee wants to read 200 pages a day sometimes. Yeah, so if I'm asleep for two hours, then she could easily just the little pause. And Dolly and I are like out together.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

She looks over and we're just like done.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

That's fine by me.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

All right. So anyway. Uh, but I think we should definitely talk about euphoria later. But first, let's kick off with uh one of your favorite subjects.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Cults, aka religion, Latter-day Saints.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Why is it that you have this affinity for cults? Like, what do you think is happening with our society that we're all actually so inspired and interested in them?

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Well, I think we have a deep look into some of these religions more than we ever have before. I have always been fascinated by religion and organized religion because I didn't grow up going to church. So I've always just been interested in like the positive aspects of it, like having a community, seeing the same people every Sunday, uh, the idea of something greater than me being in control of things, the idea of just believing in anything, I guess. And doing good, and doing good and working together for the neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

I, you know, moral standards.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Moral standards. Just I like all of that stuff, but I I've just been fascinated by it from like any kind of varying degree of it has been fascinating to me. Like going to church with friends growing up was always interesting. I was like, ooh, I don't know what this is.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

And there's lots of singing.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Oh, my favorite part is the singing, of course. I'm thinking, okay, I got this. Um and then even in what was I gonna say after that? I oh, even like reading Eat Pray Love and then learning about like Buddhism more and uh and how she's was like silent for 40 days, like any kind of religion is like really interesting to me to learn about. It's just I think because my lack of knowledge, I'm always curious. So when we get access into Mormonism is really fascinating to me. I think because it's one of the newer religions. Okay, yeah, and how it came about is really fascinating. Well, it's more modern, there's more to it, like we know more about how it happened and the people involved versus like a religion that takes place you know thousands of years ago where you really don't have no those books are being told and rewritten and all that, and they've got this is a far more modern, and then you have something like Trust Me, the False Prophet, yeah, which is about a newer sect of Latter-day Saints, fundamentalists, or fundamentalists and or FLDS, FLDS, and it's fascinating for TV because it is what you fear is the worst part of religion, right, is true within this community.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Well, extremism in religion in general is the biggest problem, and honestly, I think we're at a crossroads where the extreme of all religions are currently at the forefront of almost every single conversation about religion. Yeah, but they're also running governments, yeah. I mean, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

The the extremism of religion across all religions is really at a place that we haven't seen uh maybe ever in the history of our of our societies, like really and my general belief about religion is like I'm really happy for everyone to to celebrate and to practice what they want to practice as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else and as long as you don't force it on me.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

And that's that's it, that's the rub, though, when it comes to these extremists and these fundamentalists. So tell us about do you know the backstory of the FLDS? Do you remember like with the Warren Jeff story and all that? Did you no?

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Because I don't really know the Warren Jeff story.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

So Warren Jeffs, without knowing too much about it either, uh, was the leader of the FLDS movement. He was a prophet, according to himself and others. He had multiple wives, he had then got arrested uh for a variety of crimes that included pause.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Was his father the prophet before him?

SPEAKER_00 7:22

Maybe okay. Why not? Sure. Probably um and so we are we are finding this FLDS movement after Warren, uh brother Warren, uh has been arrested. And so now we're looking, we as in the community of FLDS are looking for their next prophet or their next direction what to do, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:44

And while he's in jail and can't be the prophet anymore, this community is at a standstill. They don't know what to do, they don't know how to operate.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

The well he's still directing them though. Don't forget that. Remember, he was writing the messages.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

They weren't allowed to have sex anymore, and they weren't allowed to have more children, which is is basically like the biggest part about the city.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

That was according to Jeff, though.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Jeff's oh, because he put it. Yes, he was saying that through them. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Then someone had a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

What if Samuel Bateman, the outcast of this society, goes, I'm the prophet.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Not as I'm the prophet, no, Warren Jeff's told me.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Told me through I am, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

God I am the prophet.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

That I'm the prophet. And I don't know how he convinces people to do this.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Well, the no idea.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

I'm probably gonna use language that is offensive, but these women mostly are already brainwashed in this society to like really the number one rule of their religion for the women is obedience. And so if you have a man in this world tell you that they are the prophet, then you're you you don't even like there's not like uh oh, should I trust this? It's just like, yes, this is yeah, the absolute truth, and I must obey, and that's how I am truthful and serving to my God.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

It's a double thing there, right? It's men are for you to be obedient to, and then God, you should never doubt.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

So if a man says they are God or that God anointed them, then you're like, Well, how I have no chance here to question or debate this. And that's what you see. So we're we're entering this world, and uh Kaylee, for the viewers who haven't seen the show, uh, who who shows up in this town?

SPEAKER_01 9:40

And why so this wonderful woman named Christine Marie shows up in this small town. I forget where it is. Are they in Utah or Wyoming?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Uh yeah, maybe or Colorado.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Should have done my research. Anyway, she wants to live in this very small neighborhood and community, and she is not LDS or what is it, F L D S.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Yeah, or LDS.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Or LDS at this point, but she wants to be close to this community to observe and make a documentary, and to make a documentary and to save the women of this community, and she knows they need saving because she has been through something similar to what these women have been through. And we never really get clarity on the incident that happened to her. So I'm curious what that really was. I mean, she does say that she was basically sex trafficked, yeah, but I I wonder just like the details of I don't think she ever had like a trial with this person or ever got like what she really needed out of it. So by saving this community and these women, that is kind of like absolving, not absolving her, but yeah, but you know, making her feel like justice has been served.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Totally. So anyway, and her partner is a uh videographer, an editor, yeah. He usually makes music videos, and so they're like a perfect little duo to go in and observe and film a documentary about this community that's very reclusive, very private, very private, and um it just so happens that they're filming and they get to meet this man who basically is committing the same crimes as the previous uh Warren Jeffs, who's in prison.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

And this is years, years into her already like gaining the trust of the women there and working with them and helping them set up a shop and really supporting these women. And and then I'm just thinking about like the creative process of just really trusting and going all in on something. And like, I don't know, three or four years in or something is when Samuel decides that he's the prophet.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Really?

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Yeah, it was like it was not immediate, it was like years into it.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Because yeah, at first it was they can't have sex, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

And then like Jeff's was still after that, that still takes more years until people start to crack a little bit. And she eventually realizes that they don't have throughout this whole documentary, they're like, we don't have enough to like nail him down for the things that we think he's doing.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

We need someone from the inside who's willing to like speak truthfully, and eventually one of the moms cracks and comes to the other side and helps everything go down.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

Because the mom has given her children to this man.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Basically, you learn that this man has been having sex with minors. And oh god, the details are just really just watch it.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

It's just really horrific and disgusting and the FBI, but don't forget the FBI got gets involved and they can't, they don't have actual proof of that. Right. So you have to always try to find a way to get someone get your search warrant or arrest somebody or get a witness uh or a victim under the guise of a different kind of crime, because often you're not gonna get like a oh yes, this happened to me from someone who's been brainwashed who thinks that this is normal or or is told do not speak about this because your God will strike you down or whatever. And so, yeah, it takes a whole crazy van incident.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Oh my god. Honestly, the dominoes had to fall perfectly in line for this to go down the way it went down. And I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't watched it. Agreed, fine, but there are many, many layers where you just continue to be surprised. I think I liked this documentary series so much because it was just I wasn't expecting any of it. Like, so much of the drama happens while they're filming. They and they don't know what they're gonna get, you know, but like it's insane. I also sometimes we'll sit down to watch like a documentary that people are really liking, and it's a lot of narration of what has happened. Yes, this is a documentary in the moment while it's happening, so it's very like it's not Tiger King, but it is like in the moment, like you're you're in it. Well, it's crazy or the perfect neighbor or something where you're like watching everything happen.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Yeah, it's just such incredible access.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

But I don't know if they ever made that documentary. Of course, the footage that we're watching has been now given to a really big um doc production company to then mix it with interviews that are more modern. Um, so I don't know if they ever did anything with their actual footage. You think about it, like they were making a documentary, but there's no way they made something and then made this, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:49

So this is the documentary. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:52

I know, but it's not the documentary. They they were making something. I'm saying, like, they found another company to help them out and finish it and make it into this thing. But like imagine, like they didn't make one that was just their story. You know what I'm saying? Like this, like, would they have ever like these two aren't like I can't imagine. Think about how much footage they had. They have so much to like there's just no way they probably could have done it without a company to come in and help them tell the story and finish it.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Well, yeah, but it's still their documentary, like that's what they set out to do.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

It was a documentary about their documentary, though. I'm not saying we're not we'd not watch their documentary.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Do you think there could be another documentary come out? Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 15:29

That was not their documentary, that was a big production that was saying about the making of yes, I don't think we we don't need another one, but I'm just saying that like these two were just shooting so much footage that they could have.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

I would watch another one. So well, you could I mean I would have so much footage.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Could you imagine going through the dailies? How many editors do they have on that thing? Because that's just absurd.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

I don't know. How many uh wait, how many hours of footage did they have for the most recent season of Germany? Was it like 15,000 hours or no?

SPEAKER_00 16:04

It was like three or four times the previous one.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Could have been so like that much footage, and that was just like over two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Yeah, no, and this is over years, yeah. But that's like four o'clock, yeah. So don't forget the cameras because it adds up.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

This is one game, it all multiplies. So just what's his name? Tonga Tonga. Good for Tonga.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

I mean, they're a part of that community. They are, they really are. Do they still live there? I don't remember. I have a lot of questions.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Well, that's why there could be more stories.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Anyway, anyway, watch the documentary. Um I would love to know what people think. Yeah, same. But it's so interesting. We're at this moment where like extreme religion is both in power and like the topic of fascination and conversation.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

We're gonna look back on MAGA and all this stuff the same way. And we'll scale people were brainwashed, they were totally duped and manipulated. That's what happens. You know, right now we're in it, and then eventually people will get out of it. That's just what happens.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

So can you think of another time where that like in recent history that happened?

SPEAKER_00 17:07

With well, like giant political parties?

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Or just or just or just like this idea of like a phase of brainwashing or something.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Well, don't forget like the 60s when you had uh the Manson clan.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Oh, yeah. I guess I don't really understand how big that was.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

I mean, uh it's uh you have the uh uh uh Kara uh Keradesh, oh god, uh Kuresh um in uh Waco, Texas. The branch Davidians. Do you know that story?

SPEAKER_01 17:36

I don't even know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

I don't know any of these were yeah, there was another um sect of religion that had a belief that this guy was the prophet or this guy was something, and uh they had women and children, and they were like violent, and the FBI and the police got involved, and they were like, we want this guy out of here, and they just totally botched everything about it, it was botched, and you gotta watch it. Oh no, oh, it's bad. Oh, it's bad. So we've uh throughout time there's gonna be people who will find ways to uh convince others that they are the the chosen one, mostly men saying that they are the chosen one, but we've seen a few women and hey, my other favorite mother god, queen, queen, queen of the dead.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

No, she is still she is wait. Speaking of like religions, uh religious stuff, so uh secret lives of Mormon Wives, they're gonna pick up filming again. And I think Taylor Frankie Paul is like invited to come back, and I think an executive also said like they're still debating like maybe airing ever season.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Why not? Please do it.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

They should have done it already. They should have, you're right. Oh no, the moment is like they're so screwed. Well, it's just funny because now you get to a point where people are like, I'm over it, I'm bored of it.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

I know, you know, where it's like you just heard about it too much, and now it's like never gonna measure up to what you initially thought it could be anyway. And it would have to be our threshold for drama and TV-related drama is just forever increasing. Like, we need more and more and more and more.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

I would hate it too if they were like, before we show this season, we just want to say that we don't condone the actions behavior. You know, I mean, like, I can imagine.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

It's gonna be like if you were someone you know is dealing with whatever, it's like, oh my gosh. Just either air it or don't air it.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Gosh. There's uh I mean we're adults. We're adults, kind of. Well, but everyone we're just saying everyone's being brainwashed. Everyone's being brainwashed, just show it and let us watch it. Come on already.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Come on.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Or don't like have a more like stand for something. Be like, this is a a line that we draw, or it's not. I don't give a I don't care for them. I'm not you know, I can decide for myself. Why don't we have any skin in the game? Yeah, it's not my show, it's their show. So if they don't want to show it, great. Why are you not showing it? Moral standing, great, good for you. That's your thing. Now keep that up for others, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Now you have to apply that to you.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yes, okay. But don't show it and then be like, oh, by the way, let's just talk about this, you know, thing a lot with like Jesse Palmer having to like bring on experts and be all weird. Like, you know, they would do something weird like that. Anyway. Um God. What you got next?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Well, we can talk about a little bit more of the uh TV drama. Yeah. Oh. Which was Wow. Okay, I want your professional take on this. So Summerhouse just recorded their, filmed their um reunion episode last week. And hours after the reunion, after taping, audio was leaked. Yeah. A very small clip, but a specific clip.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

And what was the quality of the audio?

SPEAKER_01 21:04

The quality is it's pretty clear. Everyone's volume is different. So you're not sure if like someone's like close or farther away, or if if someone is recording a recording of it from a different, like a control room or something, or whatever it is. And the snippet was really alarming because Amanda is not backing down at all. And she's like, You can't help who you who you like, you can't help who you fall for, or whatever. And it's like, Do you agree? I don't agree in this case because she's using she's here's the thing she's using Sarah, Sierra's own words against her, which already is like, you're a psychopath, like that's sociopathic behavior. Sierra, in this dinner that was just aired, is talking about interracial couples and like herself, and like she can't help who she falls in love with. Or likes.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

And Amanda is saying, Well, that's not the case according to you. According to you, you can't help who you're like, who you like, and all that, which is just really that's scary stuff to me. That's scary. It's like, no, you you absolutely can prevent yourself from falling for a friend's. You don't even get close enough to a friend's ex for that to ever happen. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Well, but this is a unique scenario. But what's happening again that we're finding people not able is to like apologize.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

I know that's the thing. Where it's just like, I am she I know it's just a small clip, but I'm not getting the vibe that she can take accountability. Or or my bigger terrifying thing is that she has no empathy. Right. She does not have empathy, she only cares about herself. It's a lot of she has no other role than playing the victim.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

And when that tires out, what do you have? Nothing. Yeah. So she's just like evil, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

It's really weird to me that she can't just read the room and be like, the world's kind of upset with her. Maybe they're mad at her. And maybe she should just be quiet, apologize, and also at the same time own up that she likes the guy. Like those are things that can be okay. She can say, I understand, I feel terrible, but I do like him. Like I really like West and we're really seriously dating. And that sounds kind of crazy to say that out loud. And I am so sorry I hurt your feelings, but it I was willing to take that risk. And I know it may have caused us to never be friends again. Or whatever, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Recognizing it doesn't sound like there will be any remorse.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Yeah, it's just like it's like the opposite. It's like you are wrong for feeling the way you feel about my thing. And I'm like, who's giving these people this kind of so weird? I see that with Emmy too on the uh what's that show called? Southern hospitality. Southern hospitality, where it's like just be it's okay to apologize for your behavior.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

But I don't think she thinks she's wrong. And I I think maybe Amanda is in that place too. She's a sociopath, yeah. She thinks she's she's like, no, this is I'm in the right here, which I think is actually so crazy. That is so crazy to me.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yeah, it's just weird. You're on a you have a chance to apologize, and just what are you doing? It's very you're gonna ask me in your professional opinion.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Okay, in your professional opinion, so I mean, being on set, like it's very, you know, nothing on set can be shared. Like, what would you do, or or how would you handle the situation if like you were on a set and this happened?

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Like if someone recorded it.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Like if someone recorded it and like leaked it.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Yeah, it's interesting. I'm curious of like what of how it happened. Like, was someone in the control room listening in and they did that with someone editing the clip and they recorded the audio from it being edited? Like, I don't I haven't listened to it to know exactly what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Obviously, do you foresee someone on the actual like team doing that? Like, that doesn't make any so unprofessional.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

It's not an expo file, someone is a recording of it being project projected, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:18

So it could have been someone that's in the audience, it could have been uh a uh uh uh I mean not to like three there were lots of people that it could have been, you know, because apparently like the hairstylist and the makeup artists are are locked, not locked in, but they're in the dressing room, so they can't be there on set, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:38

But like there could be like some PA that like was from some like TMZ and got connections and was like, hey, it's worth it. I mean, no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

No, someone posted a video. They were joking of like the Uber Eats guy showing up on set.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Yeah, like failing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of I mean, there's that. There's also someone who's a disgruntled employee who um, or it's internally they're doing it themselves to get people to talk about it. I mean, that's not that big of a deal. It's gonna be on the show. So understand how Andy could be like, this is a complete like of what? Like, what are you talking about? This is gonna be aired anyway.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Like, I know, but it's like then then if it's gonna be aired anyway, then why the rush to get anything out? We're all gonna be tuning in anyway.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Well, because it gets you us talking about it. I don't know, it could be internal, it could be all just a scam.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Well, because the word on the street today is that they have well, Bravo posted that they figured out who it was. And Andy said that they figured it out with the help of like a Bravo super fan. And the word on the street today is apparently that was Jennifer Lawrence. Like Jennifer Lawrence somehow figured it out. Yeah, figured it out. So I'm dying to know more about that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

That's why it seems okay. I'm excited to hear about it. But yeah, it it definitely feels like uh only good news for them. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

I can't, I don't feel like I know ultimately. Although I think that sucks, though. I wouldn't be happy about it if I were like a cast member and it just got leaked. I don't know. It'd feel weird, but also it is like you're right, it's gonna come out at some point. Air the whole thing. If they aired all like 10 hours of it, I would watch it. I'd have it on.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

I know you would.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Just put it in the background.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

You'll read 200 pages. How many pages could you read with that in the background?

SPEAKER_01 27:21

Sewn out for the parts I don't really care about.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Yeah, you'll get so many, you'll get through so many books. Seriously. How many, how many new sci-fi worlds could you get into?

SPEAKER_01 27:28

And I know. Okay, well, also just like on my speculation game and like rumors. So Beyonce Act Three is coming. Here's the thing about Beyonce and Easter eggs and stuff. Like, I know she does a lot of stuff intentionally. I never bother to try to figure it out because I'm like, Beyonce will do it the Beyonce way, and it's gonna be better than I imagine or could project. And it's like usually not what I expect. And I I just want her to do her Beyonce thing. But there are several things that are adding up right now. But there will be clues, but there will be clues, and I think there are. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Give us some clues.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

So Lemonade just celebrated its 10-year anniversary, and she posted that photo on the beach, and in one of her hands, she has three lemons.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

And there was Sir Davis.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

And there was the Sir Davis. There have been a bunch of Sir Davis events. Yeah. She also is quiet when it's time to be quiet and starts getting like louder when it's like, okay, something's about to happen.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

What kind of liqueur is Sir Davis?

SPEAKER_01 28:32

It's whiskey.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Whiskey, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

So she's holding the three lemons. Then she was uh she just went to gosh, some sushi restaurant in Beverly Hills, I think, for like a celebration dinner for lemonade. And she was photographed leaving wearing a very lemonade album style dress, but in purple.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

And then she posted photos in the purple dress. She has very different style makeup than what she has been wearing. She has kind of like these rock star kind of sunglasses on. Which you're saying is very purple, is very Prince.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Prince, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

People think the third act is gonna be rock. I feel like that's pretty much confirmed at this point. And I was thinking about the purple, and I was thinking about the dress, and why would the dress be in a different shade if it's lemonade and the threes? And then I was thinking about the track list for Lemonade and the third track Don't Hurt Yourself with Jack White.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Oh my god. And he's gotta be involved in the album.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

I he'll definitely be involved. Also, every we love to talk about that. Jack White is so beloved by everyone in music, everyone wants her with Jack White. Yes, and he just seems so lovely. Yes. So anyway, she's going to be at the Matt Gala, which is May 4th.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Her first time in years, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:53

First time in years, I think since 2016 or something. So that's gonna be the fourth. Now, May 3rd is the night before. I it would be cool for an album to drop on the third, the third one on the third, and it makes sense natural promotion by being at the Met Gala on the fourth.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Or she goes back to the Tuesday, the old Tuesday schedule of dropping after her own way. She's gonna reverse what she the industry changed that she is responsible for, basically. Right, because she was that could be cool too.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

She was doing Fridays and it was always Tuesdays.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

And then she dropped Beyonce on a Friday. And that changed everything. That changed everything. So there's I don't know, there's just oh the beehive is buzzing. There is a buzz in the air. I just like we're never gonna crack the code. What if we're out of town? Beyonce's just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

You can be out of town during that if it's on 5-3. You won't be here.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

I know.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

It's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Not what am I gonna do? What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Well, what if she dropped it on 3 3 2033? So it's 3 3 33.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

That's that's in a long time. Don't even say that to me. Don't even say that.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Will she be going on a world tour this summer with that? You think? No, she can't be because of the World Cup. Seems hard to say.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

No, I think she would do it next summer.

unknown 31:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

It's like album release, and then the next calendar year is that. Yeah. Also, she celebrated and posted about Destiny's Child Survivor album being the 25th anniversary this past week.

unknown 31:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Which is unbelievable. And that Destiny's Child, it's three of them. I don't know. There's just a lot going on. And she's out in public. I'm also, I don't know if I told you guys this, but I saw her at a party a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Kaylee, on a scale of one to Sasha Fierce, how excited are you about this?

SPEAKER_01 31:55

It's like Sasha Stratosphere. Stratosphere. Yes, stratosphere. But I also, ooh, my heart rate is up right now. But I also like don't want to get too excited. So I don't I don't put an expectation around like a date for a surprise drop necessarily. She's gonna tell us we'll have it when we need it.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Okay. But things are adding up.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Things are adding up where it's like something's happening soon. Got it.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Okay. Um should we talk about euphoria really quickly?

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Yeah, really quickly. What the hell is happening? This doesn't feel like euphoria at all. Like it's I'm not happy with anyone's storylines. Visually, it feels weird and different. Timing is weird, everything's weird. Like it's just it's like waking up in the middle of a bad dream, and you're like, what time is it? What day is it? Am I did I drink a bottle of vodka? Like, what happens?

SPEAKER_00 32:51

It feels written by a boomer.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

That's the problem with it. Yeah, it feels more boomer than ever.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Who do you think the audience is?

SPEAKER_00 32:58

There's the internet. We're going to explain it to the video. Oh, there's only fans? That's possible. Like, oh my god. Like please, I do not need to. We know. I don't get how the show, it used to be like the show would the way I would have expected the show to be if there was only fans, is that a character was just doing it. Do it. They're making tons of money about it to us. And realizing that their husband is a broke bitch and it's hooked up with somebody else and causes she's, you know, maybe hooking up with a construction worker or whatever who's way, I don't know, like it's like, I'm a boomer. I wrote the slowest, most boring story.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

We're gonna take two episodes to explain to you what OnlyFans is. What? This show was so provocative. What happened? It's just like cheap and boring.

unknown 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

And just like a misunderstanding of the audience.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Well, didn't Cherry come out and say, like, this is like, why would Cassie be in OnlyFans?

SPEAKER_01 33:54

She was saying that the reason why sex work is accepted is because of just capitalism. Like that ever anything in the name of capitalism is like okay now. And like that doesn't really feel you're not celebrating sex work by uh by putting that in TV shows and having characters do stuff that's like not really them.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

Well, yeah, because she was saying that Cassie was came from like a middle upper class background, and like Cherry did not, and like she's kind of said, like she doesn't seem like the kind of person that would do that. Um uh versus like Cherry's character or Cherry who in real life did it. Um she felt like it wasn't very authentic to what that character would do.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Chloe Cherry, Chloe Cherry.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

And I was like, Yeah, you should have been writing the script, like literally, like what is like yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

I wonder what the actors felt like reading the script, like being like, What am I supposed to do? You do you think Zendaya sat down and was like, what the fuck is happening? I'm just I'm just gonna finish out this contract, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Well, Zendaya has like the most kind of oh my god, when's Zendaya going to Jules's like penthouse or something? Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 35:03

What are we doing? Why are you just showing up here? What's keeping you apart then?

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Tell me, wait, what 23-year-olds act like that? Well, it's five years later, right? Five years later?

SPEAKER_01 35:13

Right, right. Come on. What are we doing? No one I just no one is so weird.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

No one's written like they are their age anymore. It's it's like it should have been like 20 years later, and they're gonna look like in their 20s still, but like they're acting so not young authentic.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

I had friends who were watching or couldn't watch Euphoria in the earlier seasons because they were like, it's too realistic to like what my high school wars were like. Not me, but but you know, at least it was like getting some part of it accurate. There has to be, you can do out there and push boundaries, but there has to be truth to it. There has to be like an emotional truth to something, and it just doesn't feel like that it's there, and then you just get lost.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

If it yeah, no matter how pretty or how expensive your production is, it's gonna or how pretty your people are, or having Zindea in it and all that. It will never get there.

SPEAKER_01 36:12

I will say to Sydney Sweeney's credit, she is making me believe Cassie. Yeah, like her acting. I'm like, yeah, I feel the desperation, I feel the people pleasing, I feel all of the things that I this character is feeling, but I just don't really understand how she got there. Not a fault of her own. Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

No, no, this is I'm not blaming the writing Sam Levinson. No, no, Sam Levinson has uh has been has proven that uh it would have been nice if he would have just had more collaborators, and I feel like he's not very collaborative anymore.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Do you think he's hard to work with or something?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Well, look at the weekend one, The Idol. I mean, that show really should have ended him.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

So pissed when I saw photos from what it was supposed to be, like with the original director who was a woman.

unknown 37:04

Oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

And it was like so cute. There, I mean, like posters and fun merch and like very like pop girly, like a Britney kind of idol, not this weird, dark. We I didn't even finish it, but I didn't finish it either.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

I got it while I was like, I'm not watching anymore. Yeah, it's it's also like that being like vulgar or being um explicit for explicit sake isn't explicit anymore. Well, then it just gets boring. Well, it's exp explicit is not explicit if it's obviously trying to be explicit, right? And it's impressive that he can keep doing that in season three. That's like now we have not watched The Wedding, which I hear is amazing as far as I don't know if it's like cringe amazing or if it I know the outfits are it's probably gonna be cringe amazing, uh but we'll we'll check back on uh we'll report back because we're gonna watch it. We love the show, we were in it. We were early adopters, we loved season one, it was so spectacular in so many ways, and I know it had its issues, and I get all of that, but we let it we let it be that because it was so good, and it's definitely just as it gets worse, you're now you're just defending it when you maybe you shouldn't, you know. Uh like there's other better things on TV, like I'm sure there's some Bravo show we're not watching.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

Real Housewives of Rhode Island, so which deserves its own episode. Big big question for you.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

How many stars would you give Noah Khan's new album, The Great Divide, out of five?

SPEAKER_00 38:31

Okay. Um early, early, early listen.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

I will give it when you fell asleep or the next day.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

No, my first round of listening to it, I would give it um a probably three and a half stars out of five. And I think as I get into it more, because it's a lot of music and the songs are all five minutes long, it'll probably be a five out of five. But I do think that I love ham being more upbeat music, up tempo, up tempo, not like lyrically, um uh than being this like what are we what are we calling it? Um Bro lore, folklore.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Well, I was just calling it folklore.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Folklore. Um uh which is he's can do whatever he wants. But I would say that like I am a stick season guy with that with that tone, and I think I'm not as much a uh great divide guy when it comes to like most of the depth of the songs, however, there are some standouts that I love. And the great divide, first of all, is incredible. Porch light, doors, there's others. Haircut, haircut. But I think it would take some time for me to like really love it five out of five, but it'll get there for me, I think, after my first lesson. How about you, Kaylee?

SPEAKER_01 39:47

So I think for me, it's currently sitting at like a four and a half out of five, and will be a five out of five stars once I listen to it on an airplane, uh, just coming up. So it is, I understand, like you really like upbeat music, even if it has the saddest lyrics. And he said on one of the late night shows he was like, Yeah, usually I make sad songs that sound upbeat, but these are just sad songs that sound sad. Yeah, and and it's true, and that's not really your energy at all. Because it's like you don't always necessarily dig into the lyrics.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Right, I don't need the lyrics really. Well, you know what I mean? Like, I don't that's not what makes me go. That hit me really personally.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

It's like Noah is now my male Taylor Swift, where like when he has an album release, we have to put it on the TV, and I need to listen with the lyrics on the TV screen and not be interrupted and just like do I did that for however long that takes an hour and a half. I'm just reading the lyrics. I'm trying to figure everything out. My brain is firing off. I don't know enough of his backstories for everything to make sense. Is this about his dad? Is this about his brother? Is this about a best friend? Is it are any of these about a lover? I don't know. Like, you know, I'm trying to figure all of that out.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

We did watch the documentary though before.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

We did, which was awesome, which helped give me some color.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Um, but I was thinking, I was listening to it for maybe the third or fourth time, and I'm like, this is an album for people who loved like the Avit Brothers and Good Old War and Mumford and Sons, but it's a little less Mumford and Sons. Yeah, which I love. So it kind of like drops it back, but also folklore lovers. Right. Folklore loved evermore and evermore. Yeah. So I think it will, I I think it will have its season for you, probably, where it's like it's it's very much like folklore, where like it will really hit you at the moment you need it in your life.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Well, he said that like it's the great music to put on uh in the winter when it's raining. Like as he kind of kept adding the layers of like, and it's raining, and you're feeling bad, and you're just right, right. Um I just want him to be okay. You know, I just want him to be to be good, you know. And that's easy to say that out loud, but um, I do think that he's probably getting help for the first time in a long time.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

When you start talking about it in front of people, yeah, feeling and then you're probably like you're ahead of the ball.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Exactly. Like it's when you're quiet about it, is when the things are are not good. Yeah, so I'm I'm hopeful. Uh, and I think talking about the music as it's out, being as big of a star as he is now compared to what he was for six season, he's like out talking to everybody, yeah. And this music is music that he is sharing that is very different than the previous album that everyone loved. So it's scary versus being like, hey, here's another album that everyone loved, just like the other one. It's like I don't have to worry about this. Is like, oh shit, people could really not be into it. So I'm just so happy to see people love it, giving us flowers. He's spectacularly talented. Can't wait to see him at the Rose Bowl. We have tickets, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

I can't wait.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

And uh, and yeah, so it's we have a lot of listening to do of that. Yes, and I as long as Siri can understand what I say when I tell her to.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

She understood me yesterday when I asked her to do it. Also, in his documentary, I feel like you know, I talk a lot about body issues and body image, and it's I don't like that a man is suffering from it, but it's good to see someone talking about it who is a a straight white man, you know. That's really powerful. And that I found that to be really touching from his documentary. And I'm like, no, no, you're so adorable. I don't want you to think poorly of the way you look. Stop it.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Well, Noah is speaking for a lot of white men right now who don't feel connected to a lot of people. He has to, I mean, he was living in Nashville and it was all work and and he goes he feels like only connected in his small town around his family for the most part, you know, and and having community is super important. And you can see how people can go on the internet and feel ugly, fat, whatever it is, not pretty enough, not whatever, and they want to change their nose or their chin or their stomach. Whatever, and someone's out there selling them a dream that could be really dangerous, right? Because it's not just the ideology of like beauty, it's also like masculinity and and what it means to be a man, and that means you have to like tough guys, which means you like a certain political party or whatever, right? It's like it's this whole world, or take this supplement.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

And it's like his emotional sensitivity is more masculine than like some.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

Yeah, exactly. But what's great is that white men, this is true, have him to look to, look up to as a as a very, I think very masculine. Talk about your feelings and and and and um you know, look, he's got the things that you would say these guys are trying to like sell. He is, I think he's handsome. Sorry, Noah.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

He is handsome, he's married or almost married, he's got a great professional career. He is um a devoted son and brother and partner, and he's like dog parent, a dog parent and a star and a star. Like he's a star. Like those are things people should look up to.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

And he's means a lot to a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

Yes, and he's able to take all of that and still be open, honest, and authentic, which is what you would want out of all of your leaders to be that, to be all these things, and then also be all these other things. Yeah, I think it's beautiful, and I think he has a voice for a generation of young men that is needed.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yeah. We love you. We love you.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

Uh, what are you sipping on?

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Sip on to this. You go first. What are you sipping on this one? Who am I sipping on?

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Well, I'm sipping on hopefully some food soon. I'm so hungry after this dental appointment. Um, I am sipping on. I'm not gonna go too deep into it, but I've really been loving female DJs.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you have.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Ninja Nina Jiraishi. Nina Jira. I can't, I will never get her name right, is so fun. She's a disciple of like the Porter Robinson kind of like anime hyper pop, which I just love. Yeah. And she's just killing it. Slater and her, and um uh uh well, Alice in Wonderland, I think, is like an O more like an OG and not from that same disciple group, but like she's been crushing it, obviously, too. But like the hyper pop girly, oh, underscores uh just like I am really digging the hyper pop DJ girlies, and iconopop has a new song. Oh did you listen that yet? No, I haven't listened to it, but I love iconopop. Okay, after this, we're gonna listen to it. I'm just so here for it. The guys right now, the DJ guys are just playing like kind of the same stuff. Oh, so boring.

unknown 46:31

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Do you think Cotella like really woke you up to this?

SPEAKER_00 46:34

Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I already it woke me up to like not everyone, but it woke me up to that women are doing what I really want to listen to. I was like, holy shit, these songs I love are all done by women.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Except for Anyama.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

That man is on a different planet.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Oh, he absolutely is.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

And stuff he's doing. Absolutely incredible. Of course. All right, how about you? A7 on my love.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

I am sipping on Fame Sick by Lena Dunham. Incredible memoir. She actually is the voice of a generation. It deals a lot with perception of self, uh, fame, really what it's like to be a woman who's successful and young, and like also so much of her illnesses, which I just had no idea. And like trying to push through and have the huge career that she does have, and God, it's all so rich and complicated, and this camera's about to die, and I can't verbalize everything that I want to verbalize right now. But please read it and then message me about it because I just love her. I love her so much. I have loved her since I first knew who she was, and I just admire her so much, and it's just like incredible.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Let's do a fame sick conversation next week.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Okay. Um, okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Love you guys so much, Katie. That was great. That was a great one. Um, don't forget to like and subscribe, share, post, comment. We're on YouTube. We're getting more views on YouTube than ever before. Check us out on YouTube. We love you all.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

And um Katie, do you have full mobility of your mouth? It's getting there. It's getting ready.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

So it's so much better than it started. So we can do this. Um love you all so much. Bye.