Little Coffee Chats with Zach & Kailey

Are Millennials the Greatest Generation?

Zach Mann Season 1 Episode 40

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Yes! Yes they are!

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Kailey was home with the family in Ohio and we learn all about Skip's Bagels and their incredible selection of freshly baked, well, bagels. Kailey then flew to NYC for Lauren's birthday and saw Moulin Rouge while Zach was home in LA with a very demanding Dolly social calendar. 

We discuss the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover, we mean 4 covers. And we do a quick recap of The Met Gala looks. To Chase Infiniti and beyond!

We also breakdown the low sugar soda craze and frozen concentrate juice cans, RIP. Kailey's sip on this explains why Millenials are the most fun and maybe the last fun generation on earth.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Little Coffee Chats with Zach and Kaylee. My name is Zach Mann.

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And my name is Kayleigh Mann.

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And we are so happy to have you guys with us today. Don't forget to like and subscribe and follow the podcast. Actually, really exciting news. You may be actually watching this podcast on Apple Podcasts right now.

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Whoa.

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But I haven't tried it yet. So if you're watching it, it works. It's working.

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Yep.

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And if you're watching on YouTube, thank you for watching on YouTube. That's working too. Regular podcast. Yeah, exactly. That we know works. Uh Spotify, um, and then obviously the little clips and stuff. So thank you everyone for following us and listening and downloading. And yeah, Kaylee, my love. You've been gone for so long.

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I've been gone forever.

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Tell everyone where you were.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh. I was in Cincinnati and then I was in New York City, and I was gone for almost two weeks.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

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What was the experience like for you home alone with Dolly for that long?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was um a lot of Dolly getting what she wanted, which was lots of walks, uh-huh, lots of treats, of course, lots of play, lots of ball. And honestly, I just I almost had the same uh time zone as you. When you're going to bed, I was going to bed. When you're waking up, I was waking up. So I just kind of try to just convert myself to East Coast time.

SPEAKER_00

You just kind of naturally are East Coast time. So it worked really well when I was in Cincinnati specifically.

SPEAKER_02

Totally. How about for you? How was the time at home? You were home for about a week or two.

SPEAKER_00

I was home for a little over a week, and I normally I haven't been home for over a week by myself, like without you in a really long time. And it was it was wonderful. It was really great. I went back to see my friend Alex Lippert. She had an exhibit at one of the museums in Cincinnati, and it was just absolutely incredible. So I got in on Wednesday, I had all of Thursday to just like adjust and hang out with my family. And then Alex's event was on Friday, and it was the most fun I've had since like forever. Like it felt like a wedding, it felt like her wedding, sure, but almost better because you're just celebrating this thing that uh your friend has dedicated her life to now. And like it's just so cool. I mean, weddings are weddings, it's like whatever, but it's just a very different feeling when your friend has like an art exhibit. I just never thought that would happen, not because of Alex, but because like she does so many unpredictable things, you never know what's next. And so it was really cool to see that.

SPEAKER_02

And when you go home, is there like a certain restaurant or place you want to go and spend time? I know you may have gone to an old stomping ground.

SPEAKER_00

Aside from just my house, um the Kenwood Mall. That's pretty much it. Okay. Which my mom and I did on Thursday before Alex's event on Friday. That's pretty much it.

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Malls are back.

SPEAKER_00

Malls are did malls ever go anywhere for well, for maybe other people, but not for me.

SPEAKER_02

But didn't you go to a restaurant you used to work at or something? Didn't someone ask you uh when was the last time you were here? I used to work at you.

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Oh my god, I forgot. I know your story is better than okay.

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So see, I'm listening. Are you proud?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I also like FaceTimed you from the restaurant so you could see. Oh, I forgot that part. So while I was home, yeah, I I got to visit Alex later the following week. And before I went down, I wanted to bring her some bagels. And our local bagel spot is called Skipps Bagel Deli. And shout out Skips. Shout out Skips. And I worked there, no Skips. I worked there for one summer, the summer before my freshman year of college. Okay. And I would work at Skips in the morning, and then I would go to Caribou Coffee and Clothes at night. So it was a really exhausting summer. And I think that's why I don't remember a lot of Skips, is because like I would clock in at six or seven, work until one or two, have an hour of rest at home, and then drive to Caribou. I was trying to make that money before going to college.

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What uh what is Skips known for?

SPEAKER_00

Bagels. Well, I know about bagel sandwiches, tons of different flavors of bagels, tons of different flavors of cream cheeses.

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What did you have when you were there?

SPEAKER_00

I ordered like four of the cinnamon crunch, which are the best, probably. Yeah. Uh they had like apple cinnamon, they had blueberry, they had strawberry, everything. Maybe I got some salt bagels. I tried to do a good mix, but mostly sweet because Alex has four kids and I feel like kids like sweet bagels. So that's what I leaned into.

SPEAKER_02

You brought them to Alex's house. Yeah.

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So I'm checking out, and like the woman who's working the counter, I I bet she worked there when I worked there, and I just don't remember. I also it's kind of shocking how much I don't remember. But I'm checking out and like she's really helping me because I'm like, I don't really know what the best combinations are to get any, whatever. And then I finish ordering and I'm checking out, and she goes, Have you ever been here before? And I was like, I actually used to work here when I was in high school. And she goes, Oh, well, that was a really long time ago.

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Amazing.

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Just put you in your place.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you so much. I mean, it was, it was a very long time ago, but damn Midwest people not afraid to make you feel old.

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No, not at all.

SPEAKER_00

When I was in New York, the Gen Z ears hyping me and Lauren up.

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I love that.

SPEAKER_00

They were shocked at the age, at least to our faces. So, but the mid the like you get like um an older Midwest woman.

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Yeah. Oh.

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She's gonna tell you exactly how she feels.

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Oh, yeah. She's snappy.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, snappy. Snap. So I got to spend a lot of time at home with my mom and my dad. I got to see my brother a bunch. Um, by a bunch, I mean uh two or three times, which is a bunch because I don't get to see them that much anyway.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then you went to New York, and there was a reason to go to New York. What was that initial reason?

SPEAKER_00

The initial reason is that Megan the Stallion was going to be starring in Moulin Rouge. Ah. Perfect timing because Lauren's birthday is was the exact same weekend. So we're like, this is perfect. She a fan of Lauren, like or is um Lauren a fan of Megan? Lauren's a really big fan of Megan. We saw Megan at Coachella two years ago. It was incredible. We love Megan, but then Megan, we should have paid attention to the warning signs. Megan had to be hospitalized after her first weekend of doing Moulin Rouge. Which I was like, How long ago was that? Do you know by chance? Do you remember when that was? Four, five, six weeks ago. I have no idea. And I remember being like, oh my God, she probably just didn't get to like rest before doing this. You know, her schedule is so crazy. And then she backed out of the show a bit early after her breakup. Now we went into the weekend being like, I can't kind of disappointed, you know. Like I kept being like, well, I don't think like Beyonce would never back out of something, no matter what was going on in her life.

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Especially not like her like boyfriend basketball player cheated on her. She's like I'm not letting him reign on my career ever.

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No, no chance. So we're like a little disappointed, but we're seeing a Broadway show. So it's like you can't be that disappointed about it. And as I said to Lauren before, I said, what we get to see instead of Megan is someone who has dedicated their entire lives to making this their reality. They have spent every day since they were a little kid, probably doing whatever they could to achieve this goal and to get to this point on the stage. And we go to the show, and like as soon as we walk in and see the stage, oh my God, I have chills just thinking about it right now. The set design is absolutely incredible.

SPEAKER_02

And you said something to me earlier, too, that because Megan dropped out, the ticket prices plummeted.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so we got to exchange our tickets for updated tickets, and we sat right in the front row. Wow. Not unlike you could buy seats in the orchestra pit. Oh, really? But we were like right in front of the orchestra. I'm glad we didn't do orchestra pit because I would have my neck already wasn't.

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Basically front row.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like the your what was in front of you?

SPEAKER_00

I was like, I want to see their spit and their sweat. And boy, did I ever. So, okay, after seeing the show, I'm watching the show and I'm thinking, how did Megan ever do this? Right. There's no way this is safe for her to do this. Safe. I worry about her safety. Like, what kind of like security would they have to have for everyone going to the show? And like being, I could reach out and touch someone. If I mean, if I sure wanted to be a creep, I would do that. But like it made me like really nervous to think about what it was like for her. And then if she was experiencing any kind of we don't know what happens behind the scenes. If there was anything that gave her team like concern or pause, I think they did the right thing by like taking her out early.

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Yeah.

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That's where my brain went after I saw it in person. My other part was this has got to be the hardest show on Broadway to do. These performers are singing and dancing nonstop and at like the the a breakneck speed. It's like the fastest you've ever heard anything. I I now understand why she was hospitalized.

SPEAKER_02

Wasn't she splitting the time with the guy to begin with, though?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I think you're right. I don't really know.

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They're doing it else, but it's still alive.

SPEAKER_00

I still I'm like, damn, I don't know how she did this at all. Like it seems extremely taxing. And the only reason why these professional Broadway performers can do it is because they've trained their whole lives for this. And you build up a certain level of stamina and being the ability to sing and dance at the same time will never not amaze me.

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Yeah.

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The woman who plays Sateen. Yeah. I think her name is Kristen. No. It's Kristen or Kelsey or something like that. Okay.

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Really?

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Maybe the best voice I've ever heard live. Really? There's such power. I don't understand. I don't understand. Just completely captivating. She had a bit of like some of her like facial expressions and the way she sings certain notes reminded me a little bit of Lady Gaga. So I was like, I could see them being sisters or something. Oh wow. But she was just holy shit, amazing. The show was incredible. It was kind of the perfect show for me and Lauren because it's the middle of Saturday and it's so high octane, high energy. And it's pop. Yeah, it's a jukebox musical. And I didn't know if I would really like that, honestly. Loved it. Because I can sing along to every song.

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Were people standing up and dancing at all, or no?

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No, not no no no no. Not in the audience. Were they singing along? I don't really know. Were you singing? There were certain times where I found myself whooping and you know, maybe singing here and there. And I was like, oh, I don't know what the level of involvement to have is because if I mean if I'm watching Hamilton, I know that what they don't want me to do is sing every word. Right. So I'm using every power in me to not sing every word. But at at Moulin Rouge, I don't really know. Right.

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Well, I know that I know that there's been a lot of um heckling that started with some of the comedians and stand-up comedians first, and then it's it's bled into like theater and musicals where people are shouting and saying things and being part of the presentation of the performance. And did you notice that happened at the moment?

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Oh my god. Okay, so there was no heckling, but the woman sitting next to Lauren answered a phone call. No, she did not. No, she did. She's like, what do you think is happening? And she was basically on her phone the whole time, like the screen like so bright. Where it's really distracting for Lauren. And I the performers have to just be like so fed up. Like there's uh there's a certain etiquette that's totally missing. And even myself, I was like, Am I cheering too loudly at the end of the songs? But I don't think so. But you know, like you don't answer your phone. Like I could hear her say, I'm in a play right now. I'm gonna call you.

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Right. It's like uh every live show now feels like it should be like the Eras tour. Like, should we be yelling like, I love you, Taylor? Or should we be yelling like like doing long staying ovations after every song? Like right, and then there's the asshole who's on the phone, and then there's the asshole who is singing every word, and then there's the like there's levels of yes, but it is interesting that we have me we've made a lot of like the me, the me generation, where everything's about me, and uh I didn't I didn't know uh how that's doing because obviously movie theaters are having that problem, but those people are that's been recorded, so yeah, Nicole Kidman's not gonna get off, although she's in Milan Rouge tying it all together. Um, but I'm so glad you had such an amazing trip and an amazing show. And I know you love seeing live theater, and um, it always is amazing to watch a live show of any caliber and just realize how much talent is out there, it's just shocking.

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It's overwhelming. I am so curious about the entire lives of these people who are on stage performing eight shows a week.

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Yeah, and there's like what how many music?

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You were the first show of the day. That's ridiculous.

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Ridiculous. How many musicals are taking place in New York City?

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Well, I don't know, it seems like a billion. Yeah, it's just crazy.

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It's just there's just so much talent. And yeah, and then like there's what one person, one or two people get cast to play the role of Sateen, probably two because they have to have two, but how many auditioned? And how many, how much talent is there? Thousands, you know, thousands. It's just it's uh wild. Did you have any inclination to go see Chicago and see one of your uh Mormon wives? Is she on that right now, or does she?

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No, I think she's done, but I do really want to see Chicago. My preference would be for it to be like a true uh a big Broadway star to be in that role, just just because vocals really matter.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're a vocal, you're yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say you're a vocal girl.

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You could get away with it with Ziggler, but you I don't think you can for sure. I mean, it's an easier part to sing, but I still want to hear like the very best person for it.

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Well, Moulin Rouge, the movie Ziggler, yeah, it's like the actor, I can't remember his name, is so good. But the so good and so animated. But the singing isn't his main.

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It's kind of talk singing when they do that, which is so perfect for certain roles.

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But like I'm so jealous. I really should have you would have loved it. You had a ticket for me.

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I know I didn't make it. You would have loved it. You had at one point we're on our way to the airport from Cincinnati to go to New York. And Zach goes, Am I the only person who's not there? Like, yeah, you were. I don't know why they thought you were coming like the whole time. I never like said that you specifically were, but it was just assumed.

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Yeah.

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Because when do we not go everywhere together?

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Well, often when you go home for like family things that are like a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

It's usually faster. I if that happens and I go to Cincinnati, it's like a faster turnaround.

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It's rare that I don't go with you, but like if it's like a thing that's like, oh, you're gonna go home for like three days or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I was home in March. Were you there? I can't remember. Oh, so I've done two now, right? I don't think so. I wasn't there. No. I because I went to Cincinnati six weeks apart, couldn't tell you the last time that happened. So but I loved it. I kind of feel like I'm gonna see my family again, like any day now.

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I know, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Well, you see me.

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I see you, my my family, and Dolly. The thing that was absolutely unbearable was being away from Dolly because I can't like talk to her on the phone. Right. You and I talked on the phone, I'm not kidding, six to eight times a day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, less than that.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not. I told my well, New York was impossible, but when I was in Cincinnati, it was that much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just sitting around hanging out with Dolly on my computer, like Zach's the type of person who could literally hang out on the phone all day, just like do his whole day on the phone. I'm like very much, what is the point of our conversation right now? Like we're trying to communicate something. I could just have a you could just hang out all day.

SPEAKER_02

Full day doing stuff while someone's on the yeah, 100%. Well, I wouldn't mind being everywhere at all times with everyone I want to be with.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, of course.

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So like that's why I'm okay with it. It's like, okay, I can walk dolly and be on the phone with my parents or with you or with my sister or my we.

SPEAKER_00

I also saw another show that I really liked while I was gone. Not theater, but in a movie theater. I saw The Devil Wears Prada 2. And loved it. I could watch 12 hours of that.

SPEAKER_02

What would be the right way to like give like five stars, five popcorn buckets, five whatever? What would be the perfect one for that movie?

SPEAKER_00

Well, they have a custom popcorn bucket that's a purse.

SPEAKER_02

So five purses, five handbags.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I would I would give the original five purses, and I would give the second, I would say four purses.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. The same purse, too? Like, is the original like Chanel? And then this one's the different brand, or no, they're all Prada.

SPEAKER_00

They're all Prada, but maybe one is Prada nylon and one's Prada Leather.

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There we go.

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of my freaking Prada purse broke again. Oh my god. Jeez. This is it.

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This is a travesty. Oh man.

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You know, I love that purse. I know you do. And there's no way it's gonna be fixed in time to go to Europe. So anyway. Um, not the point. Anyway, the point is that like the sequel I thought was done really well. The main drama is the magazine is at risk of being sold to someone who's not gonna preserve the integrity of it. And guess what? It's it's happened so many times, and it's happening right now to like Glamour magazine. And you leave these people who have also dedicated their lives to trying to make magazines about something that is meaningful to people, and what what happens to their jobs?

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Well, Vogue is the original runway, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's based off inspired by that.

SPEAKER_02

Uh Vogue is still in circulation, obviously. And is that a Condonast brand? So is Glamour also Condonast?

SPEAKER_00

I think so. I can't remember. I used oh my I this is embarrassing because this used to be my whole entire everything.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, well, I was gonna ask you, when was like the last time you got a Vogue or Glamour or Cosmo delivered to your house?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, delivered? I don't know, but the last Vogue I bought, I think was Margot Robbie for a Barbie. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I just loved it so much.

SPEAKER_02

When you were growing up, did you get those delivered to your house?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and it was I would I would be a little annoying freak about checking the mailbox. I couldn't wait for the days that they arrived. I looked for it was glamour, vogue, food and wine, travel and leisure.

SPEAKER_02

You know what's so funny is that there was a time when you just said that you would be a freak and check. There was a time when the mailbox, let's be real, was like the most exciting thing ever. Now it's dreaded. I don't want to go in a mailbox, it's filled with nothing I want to see.

SPEAKER_00

It used to be filled with so much possibility, and now it's possibility just garbage and stuff you don't really want to look at.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's like the I I know that the USPS needs to give you junk because that pays the bills. I understand that. I didn't realize that as a kid. Like, why are you getting all this like junk mails? Like, oh well, the USPS is making money by delivering the junk mail. I go, okay. But yeah, there was a time when you would get magazines, you would get like catalogs that you'd want. Like, I'd want E Spay catalogs because that was all the baseball and sports gear, and like um uh I don't think I got Nike, but E Spay, was there another sports brand that I wanted? But yeah, ESBay had all the baseball stuff. I was a huge baseball kid. So it was like helmets, mitts, bats, jerseys, yeah, all that stuff, shoes, obviously.

SPEAKER_00

Adelia's was the one I loved. Adelia too as a kid. Yes. Yeah, loved that. Before that, I loved this year's catalog.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, what do kids have today that could be even remotely similar to like a physical something that that could exist that's like in their current um zeitgeist? Does it exist?

SPEAKER_00

Is there I don't think it really exists right now. Yeah, I don't think so. But but speaking of magazines, I have a surprise topic for you today because I really want your insight on this. Okay, your raw opinions. Okay. Today, Sports Illustrated swimsuit revealed its four cover models.

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I used to get Sports Illustrated and the swimsuit edition.

SPEAKER_00

Well, who didn't?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I also really looked forward to the swimsuit edition every year. Okay. There are four different people on four different covers. Okay. Try to guess at least one person.

SPEAKER_02

Out of every human in the world, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I'll give you different I'll give you different categories. Yeah, give me categories. Uh influencer?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, influencer, let's just say it's gonna be Alex Earl. Correct.

SPEAKER_00

Comedian.

SPEAKER_02

Uh okay, let's say it would make sense. I mean, not really, but um uh if it It was um uh Nicky Glazer.

SPEAKER_00

No. So then we saw this person in Austin.

SPEAKER_02

We saw this person in Austin.

SPEAKER_00

She performed karaoke.

SPEAKER_02

We saw a comedian perform karaoke in Austin.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the same night that I performed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Tiffany Haddish.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, one is a one is a child actor and actor, but I did forget that.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

One is a child actor and singer. And still an actress.

SPEAKER_02

A child actor and singer. Oh. A child actor and singer. I mean, that would be Selena Gomez.

SPEAKER_00

No, but that's a really good guess. Hilary Duff. Oh, Hilary Duff. And then one, I don't really know what she does. She's an athlete? I don't Nicole Williams English. She's kind of a model. She was, I think she was part of like the wrestling world in some way, maybe. I could be making that up. Or like she was on WAGS or something. Okay. I don't know. Okay. So what are your thoughts on these four?

SPEAKER_02

I think it's great. I don't really care anymore. I mean, I think it's awesome. I would say, okay, my opinion is I don't care. Okay. But my opinion has changed now that I'm married to you because I want to be more like with what you would be thinking. Okay. And I feel like my opinion would say, hey, whatever happened to giving models whose job it is to be a model, that only paychecks are being models, a chance to be the cover of magazines that are talking about fashion and modeling, versus all these other people that are like having access to all sorts of photo shoots while they're getting paid to be other things. And so it's kind of a frustrating. It could be like one of those things where it's like, oh, it's a bummer. I want to see more of these models that are like actually models, only because it's their job.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Exactly. You're absolutely right. That is what I wanted to say.

SPEAKER_03

Guys, this is marriage. I have been indoctrinated.

SPEAKER_00

I am all for. Are you proud of me? I'm really proud of you. You read my mind. If you watch that, you just watched him read my mind. That was really impressive. Honestly, you knew exactly where I was going with this. That's nuts. Okay. Here's the thing. I love Alex Earle. I'm happy for her. Love Tiffany. Love Hillary. Nicole. She's gorgeous. So it all makes sense. I'm happy for them, but also choose one cover star. Okay. Like, what happened to choosing one person who was like, I got the cover? Like, instead of just you kind of, it kind of makes no statement when you just intentionally make like four diverse covers. It's a stronger statement if you go, we have one person and this is who's gonna be. Well, I and I I mean I agree with that because that was what once my second point is what happened to models on covers.

SPEAKER_02

But that's like that was the old school way. Like it was a huge deal to be the cover of something. Yes, this is now no longer the cover of something. There's four reviews no longer a cover. However, I thought that the whole point of the magazine doing its version of the swimsuit is that the diversity can be inside the magazine now. Like the cover can be one person or two or a group of four.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which it it has been before.

SPEAKER_02

But but inside you could have random people in there that would be like this person's doing their thing, and they do that still, I know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, that's what I like about. I I always loved about sports illustrated swimsuit because as someone who like studied fashion magazines, you see one body type in a fashion magazine. Right. And I loved getting the sports illustrated one because I could see what athletes looked like. It was just more helpful to see bodies of all different shapes and sizes and strength and everything. And I loved seeing that. It was like kind of discomforting to me growing up. And I don't think that has to go away at all, but I would love to see one model on the cover.

SPEAKER_02

Well, especially it's a it's interesting for me because I'm again, I'm speaking for you. Like for me in general, I just don't care.

SPEAKER_00

I know, okay, I don't care.

SPEAKER_02

But also like the physical copy, how many people get the physical copy these days? We just talked about how it's like the cover means almost nothing because it isn't something that like we're gonna get here in this house. We'll see pictures of all sorts of people. Um but I do feel like it is such like a cop-out of a brand to just not have a POV that's like really spectacular versus being like we're just gonna have like a like random. I mean, no offense to Hillary Duff and Tiffany Haddish, but like that is random. It is there's nothing more random than the two of them being as cover models.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't think either one of them would be the S if they had one, would be the SI swimsuit cover model, because I don't know if that would really like drive sales.

SPEAKER_02

Like Yeah, it I'm just saying, like it, it it does not, it it truly is bizarre to me to have them as cover models. As opposed to being inside the magazine, it makes sense, but I as someone who follows pop culture, like there's just it's just what, huh, who? Why? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_00

It does yeah, it makes it like a little less exciting, you know.

SPEAKER_02

It it it tones, it makes the brand feel lost.

SPEAKER_00

I also feel like I always see Alex Earl in a bikini, so it's like that's also it's not right, it's something interesting or different or surprising. Oh my lord, that's a huge bug. Yeah. Do you have any covers in your mind? Like that were your favorite? Oh my god, okay, I have that because the image Ira is my favorite.

SPEAKER_02

The image is just it is actually a really good image. It's so striking.

SPEAKER_00

She's striking, she's so beautiful. The pink polka dots on the red bikini, she just looks amazing, and she's not like a super, super thin model either. So it's like just this gorgeous, healthy body woman, woman on a cover, and she's just oh my god. The other one I love is Heidi Klume the year after. I'm sure I love it. She's kind of like bent over to the side. Oh, yeah, yeah. And her hair is kind of wet, and she because models have something going on in their eyes that just pull you right. It is their job, they pull you right in. You feel so connected, and those are super models too. So it's just it's a little different.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, and then the whole Alex Earl of it all, like again, it like she makes sense because of her rise in popularity and all that, as like a person that they would choose. But again, I just feel like it's a waste because, like you just said, it's like you see her in the bikini a lot or whatever, but also you just see a lot of her.

SPEAKER_00

We don't need show me a new phrase, or like have it be surprising. It used to be only models, and then every now and then it would be someone like Beyonce was on the cover, and that was really surprising and cool and grabs your attention because it's it's just not what you're expecting, and now it's just like, okay, so it could be anyone, right? Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

It is, I guess that's kind of what it more feels like. Like, I'm all here for the Hillary Duff resurgence, but it is just like, oh, it could be anyone who's had like a year this year, like that doesn't make any sense to me for for something like this, but maybe that's the point is to be like it could be anyone, um, as long as they're maybe I don't know, I won't go into gender politics, but I was gonna say, like, like there hasn't been like a man or a trans uh model. Has it been a trans model?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if there has been a trans person on the cover.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, if you're not doing that, I mean I just feel like it's just like a cop-out for them to do four random people. But let's talk about because you'll know way more than me. We had the Met.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, the Met Gala that God, that already feels like so long ago.

SPEAKER_02

It was so long ago, but I had to, you know, I watched some of the stuff because my mom's obsessed with Connor's story. So Joy had to watch. Zach, what time is the Met Gala on? What channel is the Met Gala? First time she knew it was on at She was like, What channel? How do I watch YouTube? So she asked. I go, Well, there's an app. Uh, but I guess there was that uh young woman who was found on the street who was like a street model, and then she showed up in like a very basic outfit. Was that for Chanel? And she's like Indian descent. Am I making this up?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, she opened the Chanel show, like not the last season, but the season before. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So she showed up in like very simple street.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, no, that's not what it was. She didn't show up in street clothes, it was a take on what her opening look was from the show. Now, mind you, it was a play on jeans, yeah. Yeah, but it wasn't like a gown. No.

SPEAKER_02

So what do you what did you think of that? Because I have a I have a strong take on it.

SPEAKER_00

I kind of like I get it, but I just wish that she could have worn something truly fabulous.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, see, I take it as like she is not a known entity at all. She would have been, let's say she was wearing a gown. She is amongst fashion people. Okay, let's wore a gown, some kind of gown, whatever, and showed up, nobody would have talked about her. Nobody because she's just not she's not known by anybody. Oh, that's the girl. You would be like, oh my god, I know who that is, kind of, but like not a big deal. But she showed up the way she's gonna be like, helped identify her and identifies her, interesting, and identifying her identifies Chanel. That's true. None of the what are you wearing? I Heidi Klum, what the fuck are you wearing? Like, what are you wearing? Like the designer, like everyone goes her, Chanel. Yeah, I think it was so smart, and then the freaking vitriol about you can't put this woman of color in a gown and a dress, and it's like this whole that obviously wasn't it. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, you people who say that want four random women on the cover of Sports Illustrated, you know, where it's like just have a P.O.V. Make a statement with something, yeah. And that's true. And they did, and by the way, she looked great, probably super comfortable. She's probably the most comfortable person there. And she got the most press for someone that would have gotten completely nothing if they were just dressed up in a Chanel gown, uh, Chanel gown. So anyway, I that was like a story that really got me. I don't know why it really kind of ticked those boxes of like internet outrage for no reason.

SPEAKER_00

I know or incorrect a lot of that.

SPEAKER_02

Incorrect internet outrage, like not it's instant reaction to think the worst of everything. It's like, what are you doing? Anyway, that button.

SPEAKER_00

I doubt that model felt that way. She probably felt amazing and so happy to be there. And she looked cool, you know. Yeah, it's cool to do something different. Yes. Do I think it was necessarily on theme? No, but whatever.

SPEAKER_02

But wait, it was on theme. Because to me, I remembered, I remember my take. She's dressed like a student going to the Met to see the costumes, like as a as a she's dressed like a student.

SPEAKER_00

Is that what Matthew said? Blazy, the designer?

SPEAKER_02

That is. I know that is.

SPEAKER_00

He's the designer for showing.

SPEAKER_02

I saw I saw that as like wait a minute, everyone's dressed up. They would never dress like that to the Met, but she's dressed like she'd go to the That's interesting. So I liked I don't know. To me, I got it. Uh, maybe I'm a Chanel stan. Um you understand the mind of a French man. I do, I love the French. I didn't even realize, yeah, me too. But yeah, I I had strong opinions of that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I didn't really have super strong opinions about anything at the Met this year. Really? Honestly, no. I loved Beyonce. I knew she would gonna she was gonna show up and show out. I loved blue, I loved uh Emma Chamberlain, I think was one of the best dresses, so phenomenal. And Chase Infinity just absolutely knocked it out of the park for me. That dress on her and her beautiful hair, and like you see that and you just go, God, it makes her just she's such a star and she's so arrived, and it's just so cool to see.

SPEAKER_02

Does she have one ready? I'm gonna give you and then Anooky.

SPEAKER_00

I forget how to say her last name. She's the supermodel, she's stunning, and she looked gorgeous too.

SPEAKER_02

But Chase Invinity, does she pass the Julia Roberts test?

SPEAKER_00

Not yet, but she has the hair. She has the hair, she has a beautiful face. I just watched Notting Hill on the plane, so let me tell you. That's hard, but there's no other Julia Roberts test. I know I know no one does it like Julia. They don't you can't you can't have all of it that Julia has. She has this gorgeous face and smile and laugh and teeth and eyes and nose, and her accent is so unique too, and charisma, and she's so strong. Yeah, but she's also so funny sometimes. But there's a strength there that makes all of her characters just so grounded, anyway.

SPEAKER_02

She has the every guy wants to be with her, and every woman wants to be here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And it is uh, and and in real life, I mean, we don't know her obviously, but hearing her talk about stuff and when she was on smart lists and these places we get a chance to like kind of hear her kind of oh, did they let her talk on smart list? Not enough, but the whole time you're just like, God, you're just awesome, too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Well, it was a pop culture couple weeks. It was, it really was.

SPEAKER_02

It was a great, it was a great. I I did miss you a ton, obviously.

SPEAKER_00

Missed you too, Angel.

SPEAKER_02

But you're right, like missing Dolly is different because Yu Lee can't, she doesn't know. She doesn't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

It's just it's horribly devastating to be away from her.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's kind of awful.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, okay, so let's uh get into uh our favorite segment. Sip on this. Sip on this. Sip on this. You guys, I have had this drink.

SPEAKER_00

You wanted a drink and it's just sitting by you.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I didn't want to like crack it open and have it just make such loud, like fizzy sounds the whole time. Okay. You know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which is kind of true.

unknown

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

So now you're just sitting here dry mouth.

SPEAKER_02

Just shaved my sides and my beard and all.

SPEAKER_00

You stay over there.

SPEAKER_02

I have fur in my nails, like it's embedded. Uh okay. Well, actually, I did want to sip on, I did want to sip on an actual beverage product.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, hit us with it.

SPEAKER_02

I think I've already talked about poppy.

SPEAKER_00

You did, you stole poppy from the show.

SPEAKER_02

Or I was like, I stole poppy from you and I had like, you know, whatever. I'll never hope. I'm gonna sip on sweetened with honey.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Whatever happened to lightly sweetened things? I feel like growing up in the 90s, people knew that like sugar wasn't great.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was like everything was like sweetened with honey or naturally sweetened. It was like it was like constantly just like honey or yeah, and then it became high fructose corn syrup, or like these like cheap, or became fake sugar or whatever, like unsweetened this and that. Whatever happened, just a lightly sweetened product. That's all we want. A little bit of sweet, you know.

SPEAKER_00

I agree with you. I think that's why I like poppy so much. It's like it's a good mix of some real sugar and some stevia, and it's not overly sweetened. Everything's overly sweetened.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, and you know, I'm gonna my final beat on it is I read this could be like a year old now, but I think it's not that old. They stopped making the frozen juice in the can, you know. Concentrate, concentrate. That was like the OG way to sweeten or or lighten juice because you could use the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

More or less, whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you could do it less or more concentrated, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I have so many memories.

SPEAKER_03

So many memories of with a wooden why'd it take forever. Oh my god. It took forever. A wooden spoon. Who's in the mood for juice? Just plot who's in the mood. Like turning butter. Three years later. You're like, I don't want that watery stuff.

SPEAKER_02

And then you'd put it with like the little like the little um pouring thing. What's it called? A pitcher? A pitcher with the little with the little like ledges in it. Yeah, yeah. Ledges. I'm I have my brain can't think of anything, little slats. And you just pour it out. That's so OG. And then like the whole concentrate would like get would slide into it and get stuck because it was like still frozen. There's a huge clob of fucking concentrate stuck there. So you start to pour, then all of a sudden, and then you'd be like, this tastes like water chant.

SPEAKER_03

But it was like the only sugar we could have in your house. Like he's just breaking the concentrated drink.

SPEAKER_02

I should have eaten it out of the freaking freezer like a psycho. I should have done it. Never did, never thought about that.

SPEAKER_00

Like a popsicle.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. We made well, we made popsicles out of it sometimes. We would make like little orange popsicle or like a lemonade popsicle. Oh, the saddest. But like that's sweetened with honey. We've just gone so crazy. I want lightly sweetened drinks.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's coming back. I do think that's coming back.

SPEAKER_02

Guess how many calories are in this?

SPEAKER_00

60 calories.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, you're solid.

SPEAKER_00

How many grams of sugar?

SPEAKER_02

15.

SPEAKER_00

How many added?

SPEAKER_02

Well, 15.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but it's all from honey.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Carbonated water, organic honey, organic lemon juice from concentrate. Still exists. Uh, organic ginger juice. Not from concentrate. Imagine a frozen ginger juice. Um, and then organic uh hibiscus. Okay. You could drink three of these for the same as a regular Coke. Anyway. Tangent.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Well, actually, uh, we were talking about beverage trends on our drive down to Cincinnati, and Lauren and I were talking about how much we cannot stand a spindrift now, even though I used to love spindrift. There's the taste, but has either the product has changed or like our taste for things have changed. And Alex was also asking me about like, am I into like NA things that have like mushrooms and whatever to make you feel good? And I said, I'm so far beyond that now that when I want something that is like NA, I just want like a soda or a like I don't want anything that's trying to be something else. And I don't want it to like maybe make me feel something. Like I it's not going to. I'm just like, I think we're beyond that now. And I think we were talking about like the trends of like what it's showing and the consumer being kind of well, we've gone backwards a little bit here.

SPEAKER_02

We have diet soda all over the place. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm saying. I've gone so far beyond all of that that I'm like, just give me a diet soda that tastes good.

SPEAKER_02

I know. I think okay, I thought we were gonna move on. I'm so sorry, but like the thing is, I really don't think we need to be drinking our mushrooms, our THC, our music.

SPEAKER_00

Do I need to even be consuming mushrooms?

SPEAKER_02

It's like we should be, I mean, sparkling water, water, and Gatorade. That's all I need. Or honey sweetened and coffee. It is just so weird. Yeah, that it's like, and then there's like the whole adaptogens thing, which I won't talk about next week. Okay. Adaptogens, peptides, all this shit. Oh, yeah, love to go into that next week. Just because it's so interesting. Uh, but Kaylee, what are you sipping on this week?

SPEAKER_00

I'm sipping on a huge concept this week.

SPEAKER_02

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Millennials are the most fun generation.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, agreed.

SPEAKER_00

I oh my god, get a group of millennials together. We're gonna have the best time ever. We are, I think we're the only generation that knows how to have fun anymore.

SPEAKER_01

I agree.

SPEAKER_00

Because we grew up like idolizing music videos and and pop stars and rappers, and we're like, oh, I just want to get together and dance and like have fun. And so when we went to college, we did that. Yep. And when we get together now, we still want to do just that. And guess what? I noticed at the club in New York City that I was way too old to be in. Lauren and I were dancing, and we're like, oh my god, this is so fun. And I look around, I go, I was like, Lauren, stop dancing. I go, what do you notice? She's like, Oh my god, we're the only people who are dancing. Like it felt fun because we were dancing, and then you look around, you're like, Oh, no one's dancing.

SPEAKER_02

In West Hollywood, when you were growing when you were just moved there from Ohio, yeah, and you would stop dancing, looked around. Everyone was still dancing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, grinding, shaking ass.

SPEAKER_02

It's the best.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think our music was the best because Oh, and that's what everyone's still listening to when they go out.

SPEAKER_02

The 90s, the early aughts, the teens today. I think millennials are the luckiest generation because we had we had CD stores, but we started having the ability early on in our youth to be able to record music much more easily.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we also grew up with TRL. We idolized music.

SPEAKER_02

We had grunge, TRL. I mean, I always say like some oldest, the oldest millennials had grunge music, had TRL, had the boy band era. All the big divas of today, the female divas of today, are still for the most part making music other than other than Britney.

SPEAKER_00

That's fine. We still love Britney. They still play her music all the time.

SPEAKER_02

We still get, I mean, not that we like it, but still new Paul McCartney, still new Rolling Stones. Like, there's still like this new no, but we our generation has act had like literally. We are the one generation that's had virtually everything still. Bob Dylan is still making music.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, what's let's get back to millennials being fun. What are you saying?

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm saying that like millennials have had access to all this music.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, our parents are growing up, like they they they're too old for the new generation. They don't know how to use their phones as well.

SPEAKER_00

Well, my parents have never liked you know what I like, which is like hip hop. Yeah, but we can't get it into it.

SPEAKER_02

We have the access to everything. That's part of it.

SPEAKER_00

And but I I think it's that, but there's an open-mindedness about it too.

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

About like listening more, experimenting more, having fun, experiencing things. I don't know. There's something that I'm just so I'm like, I definitely was born in the right generation. I'm ready, I'm still ready to just shake ass.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like the if AI can do one thing right, it would be to do what Spotify and Apple are trying to do, which is make you a playlist that you don't have to tell it much. It just knows and can just fire off all the hits that you really like. Pretty much does that part of growing up, but the radio stations were so powerful too. You wouldn't know what was gonna be played, but you knew if you listen long enough, you hear your favorite song. True. And that's special today. It's like instant at you know instant gratification.

SPEAKER_00

I don't always want to have to choose what I'm listening to. I don't want to at all. Pandora's made my mom still listens to Pandora. Good for her. But now Spotify can basically do. I mean, it basically does all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's just that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00

I think millennials are the most I think millennials are the most fun generation. Period.

SPEAKER_02

Will that last? How long will that be?

SPEAKER_00

How long do we have being fun? Let me tell you what. You can take the girl out of the party, but you cannot take the party out of the girl, honey. It's gonna be here forever. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I love it.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, you guys, thank you so much for listening, Kaylee. My favorite young millennial. Oh my god, you're song.

SPEAKER_00

I actually am like smacking the smack in the mid.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not the you're not elder. My elder, but I'm on the way up, like right before elder.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, upper middle. Like my sister is considered an elder. But she's like cuspy. She's cusp. Or an 80.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I think 81 is the cutoff.

SPEAKER_02

No, I think 80. I think 80 is.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, really? Okay.

SPEAKER_02

They argue all the time. What's a year? What's a year? What is a year anyway?

SPEAKER_00

What's a year?

SPEAKER_02

But uh, don't forget to like and subscribe and share. Kaylee will be on Broadway. Downtown LA Broadway. The boom box. In our Spotify playlist. Make some money doing that.

SPEAKER_00

Could be fun.

SPEAKER_02

Uh all right, you guys. Seriously, though, we love you so much. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_00

And uh feels good to be back.

SPEAKER_02

And we will see you all later.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Bye. Love you. Bye.