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Wakanda's Wrld
Beyond Borders: Nursing Across North America
The traditional nursing path isn't the only way forward. Just ask Kieara, a Montreal-based aesthetic nurse whose journey proves that following your passion can lead to a fulfilling career on your own terms.
Growing up with an esthetician mother, Kieara always had an eye for beauty work, but followed her father's advice to pursue nursing first. Now, she's found the perfect blend of both worlds as a cosmetic injector with six years of nursing experience under her belt. Her story challenges the outdated notion that new graduates must "do their time" in medical-surgical units before specializing.
"If a new grad can work in the ER, why can't they work in aesthetics?" Kieara asks, making a compelling point that the stakes in aesthetic nursing may actually be lower than in critical care settings. For nurses looking to break into aesthetics, she recommends certification courses to demonstrate commitment, while noting affordable online options starting around $50-60.
Our conversation spans borders, comparing nursing education between Canada and the US. Unlike America's three-tier system (LPN, ADN, BSN), Canada primarily offers LPN and BSN paths. We outline the process for American nurses hoping to practice in Canada, including credential verification through NNAS and obtaining TN visas for cross-border work.
Travel nursing takes center stage as Kieara shares her experiences working across Canadian provinces. Unlike some alarming stories from US travel nurses, she describes positive agency interactions, standardized pay rates, and excellent accommodations. We also touch on cultural differences, with Kiara noting how Montreal's multicultural environment has shaped her relatively positive experiences as a Black nurse compared to challenges faced by nurses of color in America's South.
Whether you're considering aesthetics, travel nursing, or international opportunities, this episode reinforces one powerful message: nurses should follow their interests rather than prescribed paths. As both Kieara and I emphasize throughout our conversation, "Go where you want to go."
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some experience could be valuable, but I don't think it's necessary, like if a new grad can work in the er or in meds, or why can't a new guy work in aesthetics like I've? Seen you guys have states, we have provinces. So let's say you want to work in toronto, then you're gonna have to go through the cno, that would be the ontario college of nurses, and then you're gonna show them proof that you know you've got your, you're okay from the nnas they're gonna say okay nice, nice.
Speaker 3:So what advice would you give? For nurses who want to get into aesthetics, what advice would you give?
Speaker 1:them, um. What advice would I give them? It's not necessary for you to do courses like um. I know the courses can be a little bit expensive. It's not necessary but it's because aesthetics is so competitive and they're always prioritizing people who have experience. I would say the easiest way for you to get that experience would be to get Welcome in.
Speaker 3:Welcome in. This is your Wakanda RN. I have a special guest with us today. We have Kiara. How are you, Kiara?
Speaker 1:I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 3:I'm doing fantastic. I'm very excited to have you on today's podcast, and so tell the people that are listening a little bit about yourself. You know what made you get into nursing and what do you currently do now.
Speaker 1:Well, hi everyone. Firstly, thank you so much for having me on your podcast. I love what you're doing in the nursing space so I was super happy to hop on. My name is Kiera. I am a nurse. I'm from Montreal, canada. I know a lot of people probably don't know about Montreal, but I'm from Montreal. I'm from Montreal.
Speaker 1:I've been a nurse for six years. Prior to that I was actually a CNA you guys call it CNA in the States so I was a CNA for two years. So I've basically been in healthcare for eight years. Actually I did pharmacy prior to that. So 10 years actually I've been in healthcare. So it's been a while. Currently I am doing aesthetics. I'm like an aesthetic nurse. I'm a cosmetic injector here in Montreal. Most of my experience consists of long-term care, but I did do med surge for a while as well and I did some travel, like a lot of travel nursing. I still do travel nursing on the side and I sloped. So I've kind of worked on like all types of units, like most units, except for like ICU and the ones that, like lpns, can't work on okay, okay, so nice, nice.
Speaker 3:So what made you want to become a travel nurse?
Speaker 1:um, what made me want to become a travel nurse? I think I just get bored really, okay. Okay, that's why, easily, um, I kind of just accidentally fell into it. I went to Vancouver to visit my friend who's actually an RN from Montreal, and she put me in contact with her agency. They put me on my first travel contract, so I tested it out over there. I was doing local agency before, but that was my first real travel contract and I really liked my experience, experience and I just kind of continued from there okay, so what did you specialize in when you did travel?
Speaker 1:so I think like 50% of the time I did long-term care and then the other 50 I did like hospital. But usually when you like at least for me when I would travel nurse in hospitals, it was float. So so I did like ortho trauma, I did ER, I did neural rehab, neuro like I was all over. So I did a little. I got to do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay. So let me ask you on a long-term care aspect. So what is the in your experience? What was the nurse to patient ratio in terms of the long-term care facilities that you worked in?
Speaker 1:was the nurse to patient ratio in terms of the long-term care facilities that you worked in, I would say about like 30 30 residents roughly, sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less, but on average about 30 residents do you feel like that's a lot, you feel like that's a little, you feel like that was too much, like, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:I feel like it varies like from facility to facility because it depends on what you have to do for those residents, right, there may be one place that you travel to where it's very demanding and you have to do a lot for most of the patients, and then there's places where they kind of just get their regular Tylenol and then you might just have a few wounds here and there. So it really depends on the facility that you're working at.
Speaker 3:I got you, I got you. So, like in the States here you know, we have, you know, like Nurse Practice Act I'm assuming that in Canada there's a similar aspect, like there's some type of practice act for you guys to follow through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes. So what is yours called? Is it basically the same?
Speaker 1:I think, it's called Nourish Practice Act 2,. I think, OK, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3:You think so. Ok, I kind of just want to do like a little compare and contrast, because I know there are some listeners who are going to be curious about some of these things as well. So let's just say somebody, maybe they're interested, maybe they're listening right now and they're thinking about you know what I do want to travel, I want to get out the States and they want to go to Canada. So what is the process like? How would someone be able to do that?
Speaker 1:Okay. So firstly, I think the first thing we have to do is kind of compare education systems, because our education systems are very different. So in the States, on average for LPNs because a lot of LPNs ask me if they can travel to Canada so on average in the States LPNs will go to school for one year and then your ADN RNs will go to, or ASN RNs will go to school for two years and then you've got your BSNs. For us, we don't have ADN RNs, we only have LPNs and BSNs. So us LPNs we go to school for two years.
Speaker 1:That's excluding prerequisites. So you do your prerequisites first, you do your full two-year program and then the other option is BSN. So if you want to travel into Canada, you're going to have to be an RN. It's not likely that you're going to be able to work in Canada as an LPN because of the schooling difference. If you're an RN, like an ADN RN, I think it depends on, like, your experience and where you've worked, but for the most part it's going to be sorry, the train's passing it's going to be BSN.
Speaker 3:Oh no, you're fine.
Speaker 1:So if you're a BSN RN, the first step would be getting your education equivalents, so that would be done through the NNAS. I think it's like the nursing. I forgot the what, the um, what. What is it? The national nursing accreditation society, or something like that?
Speaker 1:so you go through the nnas and they're the ones that are going to evaluate your education to see whether or not it's equivalent to a nurse in canada. Once they give you the okay, then you would choose the body that you want to register with. So you guys have states, we have provinces. So let's say you want to work in Toronto, then you're going to have to go through the CNO, that would be the Ontario College of Nurses, and then you're going to show them proof that you've got your okay from the NNAS. They're going to say okay, say okay, cool, if you've written the NCLEX already, which you? You have written the NCLEX, you won't have to rewrite it again.
Speaker 1:So it's just gonna be just getting your um, your like your paperwork from your school, getting your paperwork from, like, the board of nursing saying that you've never been suspended or anything like that, and then, once that's done, you get your license. And then then, after that, the immigration part. There's three steps. So the immigration part would be your TN visa, which is the visa that most travel nurses from Canada and the US use. And the TN visa is quite easy because you just have to drive to the border, show them that you're an RN, show them that you have a job offer. So if you apply to jobs and you get a job offer, they write you a letter, show them your job offer and then you can come in.
Speaker 3:And I think your visa lasts for three years, two or three years, okay. So a lot of detailed information, yeah, so, so if you need to replay this back, you're more, you're more than welcome to, because that is quite a bit, and I was sitting here thinking, you know, like I'm an ADN myself and so, yeah, so it seems as though that because I'm not a BSN, then I may have a little bit of a transition myself in terms of trying to figure that out in my right spot and everything. But it sounds like it's based upon, like your experience and things like that, but it sounds like it's based upon like your, your experience and things like that.
Speaker 1:So, especially after covid, like the, I feel like they opened up a little bit more to ADN. So if you have like a certain amount of experience or experience in like a certain specialty, let's say like ER or ICU things like that, you might be able to get in a little easier.
Speaker 3:OK, ok, so that that is pretty cool. That's definitely pretty cool. So let me, let me ask you so, healthcare. So you know, here in the United States we don't have universal healthcare, it's more, uh, the private insurance or you know, it's company insured. Um, you guys have the universal healthcare model. I don't. I don't know if you're familiar how us and how we do things over here a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 3:So let me ask you so, um, If you have noticed, insurance, how does generally, how does the insurance process work in terms of patients getting things paid for or waiting for surgeries or things like that Kind of walk us through a little bit of how health care works over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So for most things you can get pretty much for everything you can get it done publicly. The issue is wait times when it comes to public. So if you're like working for the government or you have a job that provides you insurance, then there's certain things that you can get done faster because you can go to like a private facility with your insurance and get it done there and then you'll get reimbursed by your insurance company. So, for example, if you want to do like, let's say, you have some blood tests that you want to do, that you want to get done, if you want to do it publicly you might have to wait a few months to get those blood tests done.
Speaker 1:But if you want to get it done faster, then you can go private. If you have insurance, they do it on the spot, like I worked at a private blood lab, so like they would come with their insurance, would do their bloods and they could pretty much get it done right away. I think that's like really where the difference is, because you can literally do everything publicly. It's really just the wait. You're going to have to wait longer if you don't have private insurance.
Speaker 3:Why are those wait times so long? Why is that?
Speaker 1:Why are those wait times so long? Maybe shortages? Yeah, probably shortages, I would say Shortages.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that's. I was going to ask that too. Do you guys in Canada have a nursing shortage, or I like to call it healthcare shortage in Canada? I know we do here in the US, so I'm guessing you guys do as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think there's a shortage, like a shortage everywhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So it's funny because I have these back and forths with people who tell me that there's no shortage and and so I'm sure somebody listening to this right now can't wait to chime in and comments on the no shortage. So guys, so guys, if you're listening to this, there's a shortage in other countries as well, not just in the US. So, so, so you're hearing it. You're definitely hearing it. So what made you want to choose aesthetics? Why aesthetics?
Speaker 1:Um well, my mom's actually an esthetician, so oh nice she's been an esthetician and a hairdresser for 40 years. So I grew up in that space, in that in the salon I've been playing with my little dolls doing their makeup, doing their stuff since I was a kid, initially, actually, before nursing. Nursing was my plan b, cosmetology was actually my plan a but, being an african dad, he's like no nursing's first, cosmetology second.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I listened to them and, to be honest, I don't regret it at all. I think nursing was like the best decision I ever made in my life. I wouldn't take it back, but cosmetology was always something that I was interested in. So you know the fact that I could take nursing and mesh it in with cosmetology. It was just the perfect match for me.
Speaker 3:Nice, nice. So what advice would you give? For nurses who want to get into aesthetics, what advice would you give?
Speaker 1:them. What advice would I give them? It's not necessary for you to do courses. Like I know the courses can be a little bit expensive. It's not necessary but it's because aesthetics is so competitive and they're always prioritizing people who have experience. Um, I would say the easiest way for you to get that experience would be to get a certificate. So I think the even though it's not necessary, I do recommend it one. It gives you like just foundational, like knowledge.
Speaker 1:I think it's a good thing to go into the space kind of understanding certain things already and also like it kind of shows them that like you're, you're serious, because they know a lot of people kind of just want to get into aesthetics for the soft nurse life. But, you know, showing that you're willing to, you know invest, kind of makes you seem a little bit more like serious. So I would say, invest in the certificate. Like I know it's expensive, but invest in it.
Speaker 1:I know in the states you guys have palette resources. They have um tons of like online workshops, in-person workshops, cadaver trainings, all types of and they're like super cheap, because I wanted to do it through palette, but they're like no, you're from canada, so no, but they had like some, some online certificates for like 50 60. So if you're looking into aesthetics and you don't have like thousands to spend on like a botox and filler training but you still want to do some stuff, there's like a few, there's like a bunch of stuff that you can do. Maybe you can get a few certificates to pilot and maybe spend a 150 200, yeah so if, what would you say?
Speaker 3:if a new grad says says like I want to, that's where I want to go, would you recommend them to get experience first or just to get that, that extra training, or what? What do you think about that?
Speaker 1:I mean, I think like getting some experience could be valuable, but I don't think it's necessary. Like if a new grad can work in the er or in med surge, why can't a new guy work in aesthetics, like I've seen that conversation where, like you guys, shouldn't work in aesthetics and it's like well, why can they work in the er then? Why work in er and they can't work in aesthetics? And it's like well, why can they work in ER then? Why work in ER? And they can't work in aesthetics? It doesn't make sense?
Speaker 3:Yes, it doesn't make sense. I had a post a while back towards the end of 2024 where I had stitched somebody and basically they were saying how new grads should not go into aesthetics and I said they should go wherever they want to go Wherever they want, to go Wherever they want to go wherever they want to go. I mean, you went to school, you're a nurse.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, and I think because, because a lot of people have the old mindset of you need to spend a year in med surge before you go anywhere else, and I'm like that's outdated as it. Maybe that was true for a time, but in today's age, today's economy, listen, listen. If, wherever you want to go, especially if they're gonna, if they are going to train you and they're gonna take you underneath their wing, I mean, why not, why not?
Speaker 1:you know you're more likely to harm someone in like er or like icu than you are in both, like okay, yeah, you might botch someone's botox, in three months it'll fade away. But it's like in er, like you give someone the wrong ivy or something like the, the. The consequences I feel, like in er or like in the hospital, are just way more severe, I guess, than aesthetics. Not saying that things can't happen in aesthetics, but what's likely to happen in aesthetics, versus comparing it to the hospital. They're completely different things. That's someone's botox, then, like give someone the wrong man and kill them that's what I thought too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I'm of the same exact mindset, so so if you're listening and you have been discouraged before, don't be discouraged. Go where you want to go go right please go where you want to go, please for sure so. So let me ask you have you ever had anybody um kind of question? You know, why did you choose being a lpn versus just going to get your rn? Have you ever had that dialogue or discussion with?
Speaker 1:anybody, I get that question. I've probably gotten that question a hundred thousand times.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm exaggerating, but a lot Like I get that question a lot.
Speaker 3:What's your response to that?
Speaker 1:Because I felt like it.
Speaker 1:I mean, if I'm being completely real, at the time I didn't have the prerequisites for the RN when I wanted to go into nursing. I didn't have the prerequisites and if I was to get the prerequisites it was going to take me six months to get those prereqs and then by that time applications would have been closed, which would have meant that I would have to wait. And so I'm like I'm not going to wait a year and a half to potentially get into an RN program when I could be almost done my LPN by then. I'd rather just do my LPN and if I choose to go back for my RN, there's the option to bridge afterwards. So that's like the main reason. If I had all the prereqs, I probably would have done the RN first, but I had some personal goals that I wanted to get to ASAP and also, and like I said, I just didn't have the prereqs and I didn't feel like it was worth waiting for the potential because nursing programs are so, they're so competitive. It's not guaranteed that you're going to get into it.
Speaker 1:So I applied to the LPN and I got in, so I just I just went with that. It was guaranteed it was there. It was in front of me on a silver platter, so I took it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't. I can't blame you at all, because when I became, I decided to go to LPN route and literally, for me, it was because, you know, I failed the entrance exam for RN school in terms of the school that I wanted to go to, and so, um, I actually had people that were behind me, encouraging me, telling me that, like my parents, they were telling me that, you know, maybe you should try the LPN route and I thought about it.
Speaker 3:I was like you know, I guess I can, you know, and I ended up applying for the LPN program in near my hometown and got in and I still don't regret that decision at all because the experiences I gained were so valuable working as an LPN, and I was making decent money as a young adult, so you can't bypass that. So if you're listening A, you're valuable as an LPN. Don't let anybody discourage you.
Speaker 1:You're very valuable and also, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, I'm just gonna say in canada, like the since, like if I was, I mean in the states, because you guys have adn rn, so you guys have three options. There's like a lot more options for you guys. For us, like bsn programs, like you probably already know, like bsn programs, like you probably already know, like BSN programs are so hard to get into, they're so hard to get into. So LPN is what I chose.
Speaker 1:Yes, Like you said like if don't let anybody discourage you from going through the LPN route if you know that's what's right for you.
Speaker 3:Yes, as long as you're happy with your decision.
Speaker 1:That's all that matters.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, Exactly. So I do want to kind of shift gears a little bit and kind of ask a question. So you know, have you ever experienced any type of discrimination or any type of prejudice, whether being you know a woman in your field, or whether being you know a black person or a person of color within your field, working in Canada? Have you have you've had that experience, or has everything been kind of kumbaya, Everything's cool?
Speaker 1:I've had some like funny remarks about like like kind of a Black nurse. But I would say that most of my, most of that discrimination came from like very old people, like in long, long-term care. So they come from such a different time that I don't even care to be offended because you're 103 years old, times have changed like I get it.
Speaker 1:I get it, but, um, I mean, had like nurse bullying experiences, but like discrimination particularly. I can't really think of much other than like my long-term care residents, which I don't really count them Wow.
Speaker 3:So that's a.
Speaker 3:I mean I think that's pretty cool to hear because, you know, in the States your experience may differ depending on where you're located.
Speaker 3:And so for sure, I mean I know I have, in my tenure working as a nurse, just you know, I've had micro and then I've had, you know, major ones too. I've had some from older residents or older patients who blatantly would, just, you know, say the N word or, you know, refer to you, as you know, less than because of who you are. Or I've had managers or physicians, look, just take one, look at me and they assume, like I am a CNA, like I have my name badge on, and they just look at me and they assume that I'm less than just because I'm a black male. And you know, I've had those type of experience here in the United States and of course and that's just the tip of the iceberg I've had others as well. And so it just made me wonder, it made me think like huh, I wonder what it's like in another country. Is that something that's more of a rarity or is that something that's just globally? You know, I'm saying so because I have.
Speaker 1:I've have had someone assume that I was a cna as well and I had like like residents, like I had one resident spit on me, like he was like like n word, and then he spit on me yeah I said, these people are so old and they have dementia as well, so like I don't really get offended too much, but I got you yeah, I think just like having people assume that I was a cna is probably. It's the the worst that I've got the worst.
Speaker 3:yeah, man, man, maybe I should have been in canada. Um, oh man, because that sounds a lot better than you know a lot of experiences that you know people of color have to deal with in the states, which I'm sure you probably hear or see things on TV or things on social media and uh, I mean it's, it's, it's a real thing that we're we battle with here, and uh, I think maybe it's just me, maybe it's just the areas that I've worked in, cause there are some places that are a little bit more redneck than others.
Speaker 1:I happen to like Montreal is extremely multicultural, like very multicultural. So you know the I think it's maybe just the places that I've worked at. If I were to go in other areas, maybe my experience would have been different.
Speaker 3:I think it's just where I've been working it doesn't help that I live in the south, like I practice nursing in in the southern of oklahoma uh, the south of oklahoma and tex, texas, my whole life and so, and so I don't. I don't think that's, I think that's probably contribute to a lot of it, because there's still, there's still people who want things to go back the way they used to. There's still people who wish things were still segregated and they still wish that. You know white supremacy still reign and you know there's still people who have those beliefs and they're not just old, they're younger or they're middle aged, and they still hold on to these belief systems.
Speaker 3:And yeah, they are passed down and they refuse to acknowledge that the world is changing rapidly and they just refuse to accept it. But yes, it is passed down and so interesting, interesting. I was pretty, pretty curious on that, at least getting your perspective, and maybe, like what you said, maybe it's just because of where you have worked and you live you live in a multicultural area, because that helps a lot, that helps tremendously. So. So let me, let me ask you we talked about, you know, lpn and BSN, adn. Do you have any plans on going back? Are you feeling pretty good about life? You know where? Where do you feel education wise?
Speaker 1:I actually got accepted into my LPN to BSN bridge. I was supposed to start it in the fall and I couldn't find an apartment in time because it was in a completely different city. So I pushed it and technically I'm supposed to be starting in May, but I don't think I'm going to be going.
Speaker 3:Oh, really, really Okay. Okay, is there a particular reason or what's your reasoning with that?
Speaker 1:I think, the only reason why I wanted to do my BSN. If I'm being completely honest, was so that I could travel nurse in the US Because I could work in the US, but then I would have to get sponsored, which is not an issue. But I don't want to be tied down to a facility I'm not familiar with oh yes.
Speaker 1:Two, three years. So I figured I would just go get my RN so that I could do, you know, my quick in and outs. That was the only reason why I wanted to get my BSN, because over here I think in the States the pay gap is bigger between RN and LPN. Over here the pay gap is not big enough for me to like care.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, okay.
Speaker 1:I don't so Wow, so I just gave up on it, wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow yeah.
Speaker 1:If I'm being honest.
Speaker 3:Okay Well, I can't blame you if that's your reasoning, man, I can't blame you at all. Yeah. Okay, so nice, nice. So have you worked with different travel agencies, different travel companies? Have you been pretty much with one? No, with different. Tell us a little bit about that I work with different agencies here okay, so what has your experience been like with the different travel agencies? Have it been? Has communication been pretty clear? Has you know things been good? You know, like, how's your experience been working with different travel agencies?
Speaker 1:I would say most of my experiences have been good. I mean, some are better than others, of course, but generally speaking I would say I haven't really had trying to think I haven't really had a bad of an experience, to be honest really I haven't had a horrible experience with the agency itself.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, okay, okay, nice, nice. Because some people in the states, you know, um, you know they'll sign on for a particular um amount of money and then the check comes and they try to pull like, well, you know, we, we decided that. Okay, your real worth is this, you know. So it gets kind of dicey with some travel agencies. Yeah, like, I've talked to some travel nurses and they've had difficulties working with different travel agencies and so, yeah, or or they'll find out that the middleman, you know the person is supposed to be doing that communication between you and that facility ends up taking a lot more of the cut than what they were originally supposed to. So some people have had difficulties dealing with that. So if you've had no problems or little problems, that is great. It's just some people have had different experiences.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I feel like in the States there's more room for like the snakes, I don't know. Over here I feel like we're very like. Things just are the way they are. So it's like your experience with most agencies is going to be the same. Your salary with most agencies is going to be roughly the same. It's kind of just the same with most agencies. But I feel like in the States it's like the gap is huge. Like you might find one agency that wants to pay you pennies and then you've got an agency that's going to pay 150 an hour. You're not gonna find that here. You're not gonna get that period anywhere at any agency.
Speaker 1:Nobody's paying you 100 and nothing an hour okay okay, I think for us, like on average for lpns, 50 to 65 65 is like the higher end and then for rn, maybe like starting from like 70 to like maybe 85, ish, 90 I would need to see that 85, 90, I would.
Speaker 3:I would need to see that me personally, yeah, yeah. Like if I were to do that, it has to be worth my time, energy and effort. Like, especially if you have duplicating expenses, like if you do like I would need to see that high end, especially like I need to. I need a good stipend, I need my good hourly rate. I would need to see what the overtime pay is, like you know your overtime is time and a half or double.
Speaker 1:It depends on your agency. Oh really, sometimes it's double, sometimes it's time, and a half or double it depends on your agency. Oh really, sometimes it's double, sometimes it's ten and a half. But usually they're very good, with accommodation, with flight, with stipend, like I've never had an issue. They've taken care of me. If I'm being completely honest, like they've taken good care of me, I've stayed in some really nice hotels.
Speaker 3:Really Mm-hmm. Ah Okay, hotels like really okay, so you do sound taken care of I can't lie.
Speaker 1:I've been taken care of, to be honest, yeah nice, nice.
Speaker 3:So, besides, you know, nursing content, do you do any other forms of content?
Speaker 1:I do um. So during my content creation journey I've been a content creator for 10 years I started this thing called ugc uh, it's user generated content where you basically create like mini commercials for brands that they post on their own websites or social media. So I have another social media page or tiktok page, and also instagram. My instagram is new where I kind of teach people about ugc and how to get it. It's perfect for, like new content creators who don't have a lot of followers, because you don't need followers to do UGC. So yeah, so I have my nursing page and then I have, like I do, beauty content and then content creation tips, I guess.
Speaker 3:Which is your favorite? Which one do you like doing more?
Speaker 1:I like doing beauty, but it's just not working out for me. It's not working out for me.
Speaker 3:It's not working.
Speaker 1:It's not. It's not.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:You really love my nursing content, which I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the support regardless. But my nursing content does very well. My content tips do very well, but my beauty content just doesn't do that well.
Speaker 3:Really Okay, do very well, but my beauty content just doesn't do that well, so really okay, well, hopefully that'll turn around for you especially if you enjoy it, fingers crossed.
Speaker 1:I enjoy it. I enjoy content creation just as a whole, so it doesn't really matter nice, nice.
Speaker 3:Well, uh kira, where can people find you if they're looking for you? Where can they find you?
Speaker 1:oh, my god. I mean you could follow me on my nursing page. It's a kiera k-i-e-a-r-al-p-n? Um, and then you can find me at kiera selena on tiktok.
Speaker 3:So k-i-e-a-r-aselena c-e-l-i-n-a all right, nice, nice, all right. Well, this has been great. I appreciate you, uh, being here and uh, yes, people can go check her out. Man, go, if you're listening, go check out her page and uh, you will be enlightened for sure, whether it's beauty with beauty products or nursing content. So definitely go check here out thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it yes, yes, thank you very much, kiera. All right, thank you guys.
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