All In Your Bizz w/ Reka & Los
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All In Your Bizz w/ Reka & Los
Good Times and Cosbyisms: Black Family Representation on TV
We dive into a heated debate about TV shows that shaped generations and the different ways Black families were represented on the small screen.
• Comparing "Good Times" with its depiction of struggle and togetherness to "The Cosby Show's" aspirational portrayal of Black success
• Discussing how James Evans from "Good Times" represented the reality of working multiple jobs while maintaining family unity
• Exploring why Claire Huxtable became an iconic character who balanced professional success with firm but loving parenting
• Analyzing the importance of seeing both struggle and success in media representations of Black families
• Criticizing modern portrayals of Black men in media, particularly in Tyler Perry productions
• Sharing memorable episodes from both shows that left lasting impressions
• Emphasizing the importance of practical life skills and insurance for younger generations
Email us at allinyourbizz25@gmail.com and tell us if you preferred the Cosby Show or Good Times. We want to hear your thoughts!
welcome, welcome to the real world kids. Welcome to the los enrique show. Like always, we are all in your biz. Let's go. What's up?
Speaker 2:what's up, what's up, what's up. We are back at you again on your biz. Hope everybody had a great uh holiday. Yes, safe holiday, safe holiday.
Speaker 1:Safe holiday and shout out, and we give our love and support to all of the families affected by the storms and bad weather in Texas and North. Carolina, we send our love and support to those, because that's hard. But definitely didn't want to, didn't want to leave that out.
Speaker 2:Definitely that's a good observation there. Hope everybody got their drink on. Hope everybody got their eat on.
Speaker 1:Who made the potato salad?
Speaker 2:Yeah, hope everybody got all their needs met. But you're back at us again and we thank you for listening and we're all in your biz, so let me start off. Can I start off with a? Why, question? If that's all right, I got a couple, two, three, I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess Sure Okay.
Speaker 2:How about this? How does a sponge hold water? I don't know. That's just a why question.
Speaker 1:I don't know the answer to it, it's just a why question. So yeah, how does a sponge hold water?
Speaker 2:if it's full of holes.
Speaker 1:If a fly loses his wing, will it be called a walk?
Speaker 2:Is that the last question that you have? No, I got many more. I got many more. Why does quicksand work so slowly? Okay, do you know the answer to that, ms Brainiac?
Speaker 1:Maybe because it's quick to. I don't think quicksand has like a bottom, and so when someone walks on quicksand they kind of sink through. It's like a sinkhole. There's no bottom to it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, quicksand like concrete.
Speaker 1:No, it's not.
Speaker 2:Maybe you know why does.
Speaker 1:Well, that's something we'll need to look up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are some things that we need to look up. That's it right I mean, I just turned my page here. You know, it's not like you're trying to get rid of me uh in the wild questions. But um, I think the fans like the wild questions. We began like a lot of emails and all however, yeah, they had some suggestions and all. So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna keep on going through wild questions whether you know the answer or not sure, sure.
Speaker 1:And while we're at it, uh, let's give a shout out to our listener of the week oh, listener of the week um, they're the listener of the week. This week is miss wells from detroit, michigan what up, though? Can I say what up though?
Speaker 2:just say we want to say thank you, miss wells.
Speaker 1:Miss wells, and I do want to say thank you miss wells and I do want to say um, I am giving you a virtual eye roll because you told me in the email that I or I should allow kids to be kids. If they want to wear those uh hoodies and thermals and sweatpants in the summertime, let those kids be kids. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Shout out to.
Speaker 1:Miss Wells, thank you for listening, but virtual eye roll to you ma'am.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, thank you, miss Wells.
Speaker 1:Appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Please, miss Wells, have mercy, but I got her, though. She was trying to say what up though, but she ain't from the D, okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, and shout out, I can't remember the listener's name, but who gave me um all the kudos for the reading rainbow? The reading rainbow song from last week. I appreciate you, yes not this week.
Speaker 2:Thank you, no reading rainbow this week and I still can't read this week, okay so I can't be on the reading rainbow okay okay. So that's how, when you sing the reading rainbow. That's how I feel when you, when I'll be saying the why question so yeah the feeling is mutual mutual okay all righty. So where are we gonna go today?
Speaker 1:I'm chilling all summer and I am feeling all of the shows that we used to watch in, like the 80s and 90s and early 2000s. So let's talk about some shows okay um, in particular, your what's your favorite show? What's your favorite show from back in the day that you watched uh growing up?
Speaker 2:I have a lot of shows like night rider um the a-team I pity the fool no, that's not is that a-team.
Speaker 1:I know that's mr t, but yeah, that's the same thing he say I pity the fool yes okay listen, you should know that that's standard, standard data.
Speaker 2:Um like I used to watch the Cosby Show, however it is, but I was more in tune to like Good Times.
Speaker 1:Boo what you mean. Boo you like Good Times.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can relate to Good Times and all. I guess you probably like Cosby Show, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1:I love the Cosby Show.
Speaker 2:So just as well as you love the Cosby show, I love good times so what did you love about good times?
Speaker 1:what make the times so good? Because the the shows that I watched, they didn't seem so good.
Speaker 2:Damn, damn, damn what was so good about you, so just, you're so judgmental, though, especially when it comes to the dad go ahead, go ahead okay, so I will say what was his name james john listen james judas you should know those names, james, so I I didn't like james, I'll just say it, I'll put it out there.
Speaker 1:I did not like the grumpy, disgruntled, always upset character that he played. I did not like him. I would prefer watching him in coming to america and players Club than Good Times. Because he was always mad. His nose was always flared up. He's always fussing at Florence and the kids. Michael couldn't be a militant because he was always mad. It's just it. Just, he just rubbed me the wrong way, that's all.
Speaker 2:I think you need to kind of understand you know you have to understand the dynamics and what was going on so I can relate to it.
Speaker 1:Okay, even the theme song. Nobody could understand it, like I had to google, like the, the lyrics, um, what was that? Hanging in a child line? I didn't know they were saying hanging in the child line. I thought they. I'm not gonna tell you what I thought they said, but yeah yeah, the huxtables, the cosby show. They had like a catchy theme song, a little bop, and I was ready to watch.
Speaker 1:And let me tell you, if we wanted to watch the cosby, like we had to go to bed at like 830 during school, and so if you wanted to watch the Cosby show and a different world following when you came home, you had to do your homework and your chores All right. Take a nap, like you're just going to waste some time or lose out on sleep. Take a nap and then you could stay up to watch a different world. But go ahead on with your little show and tell me what was so good about it.
Speaker 2:But seems like the cosby show. I feel like, at least when I was growing up, was, it was not. It was intangible okay, it was like um, a make-believe world, that I'm sure that some were a lot of the opportunity to afford the opportunity to live in that world and all but the things that they were doing. You know, I think they were like doctors or something like that mr huxtable was a obgyn what was the lady?
Speaker 2:mrs huxtable was a an attorney yeah, so I mean, like they were well off, you know they lived in a brick stone in new York.
Speaker 1:They were well off in Ohio With five children. Yeah, so that was not realistic for me growing up in the things that I've seen. So even if you saw that on television, you couldn't imagine like, hey, I could be that or I could no, because actually I mean no.
Speaker 2:It was kind of corny Really. I mean like you know, yeah, they had you know, yeah, they had you know this perfect and wonderful problem solving family and two parent home and all I love that. But you know what was very significant about Good Times, though it came out like in the 70s- I think it ran for like three or four years, but it was like In Chicago right, Was that Chicago?
Speaker 2:I think it was in Chicago, ok, but it was like, right, was that chicago? Um, I think it was in chicago, okay, but what was so significant about this show was that it was one of, if not the only, or you know, around that time frame that depicted a black family with a household of a male and a female, and it was it wasn't too many shows like that, you know. You had shows like I don't know if you remember I think it was called Give Me a Break. Give Me a Break.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, even though the lady was black and the mom but the dad was white. You know, what I'm saying. You had even shows that I like, even like different strokes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you had like white characters in the high res, know, but you had, uh, black characters as well, but this one was predominantly black but why do you think it had to be depicted in a I don't want to say a negative way, but I don't think it was negative you don't know that was.
Speaker 2:I mean, that was the real struggle realistic yeah, that was a real struggle back then. You know like uh hard to find jobs. You know, james, the one that you're speaking of, um, yeah, he did a lot of manual labor type stuff is that why he was so mad all the time? I mean, I don't know, but what was his?
Speaker 2:profession, like he did manual jobs, yeah, he had multiple jobs and but most of it was manual labor, okay, you know, and he was just trying to provide for his family, you know. So I'm sure the struggle was very real and what's caused you to get frustrated? I mean, you had jj.
Speaker 1:You know like he can paint you know he can paint real good, yeah, so that was more.
Speaker 2:That was more of a reflection of you know, yeah, they had good times, you know, and they had bad times, you know, but they stuck together, you know. So, even in the midst of all the stuff that was going on on the show, you know you still found togetherness.
Speaker 2:You know they always support one another and people in the community, you know. So there was a lesson even to be learned, even in good times, because even through the bad times they still stuck together. It wasn't like a depiction of like we see today, like a lot of tyler perry movies, you know, like the man always leaving, you know treating women bad and all like that's. I don't, I don't like that I don't like the.
Speaker 2:You know the marriages go bad and the women go. You know this is like Tyler Perry, is so predictable and I think, hopefully you know, coming up here we can see a new reflection of black men, especially black men you know, because not every black man out there is beating on their wife and doing all you know. You know they're actually supporting their family and all. But if the truth be told we see a lot of tyler perry movies they always you know somebody's getting divorced and the man is always cheating. He's always you know.
Speaker 1:Think about it I think that's more so with all of um, if we can be honest, I think, a lot of Black depiction of men and or younger women or even women in general, single women struggling through life, black men either in jail or violent leaving the home, and I think that's a huge depiction of the Black family. But I question like, where does that come from? Is that the audience that wants to see this?
Speaker 2:you don't want to see that I don't think so we don't want to see that. Especially black men. If black y'all, y'all make sure y'all reach out to us. Okay, black men, we don't want to see that it's just like I. I know what's going to happen you know, and I have a problem with that. Like tyler perry has made some good movies in ohio, but everything ain't always do you got to go to jail. You know they break up somebody else. Come and talk. I mean, if you think about it, yes, like pretty woman.
Speaker 1:So do you think there's a difference between um? I don't know if you remember the movie pretty woman with julia roberts and um? I forget his name. I can see his face, but she was a prostitute and um she was hired as an escort for him and then they fell in love and he swept her off the streets and and took her in, so it's no fairy tale. Are you saying that there's no fairy tale when it comes to like black families and black men and women in these stories and how they're depicted versus non-black?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just, I'm sickened.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:You know and I'm just speaking strictly for Tyler Perry, you know like he's in a position where he can give a better image or a glimpse of what goes on in the black structure family. And it's not all. 90 percent of what he puts out is is repetitious. It's the same thing different characters different characters, you know, but the depiction of that is all the same. You know, or something you know, like what church, or something like that.
Speaker 1:And how that meant. That's probably how he grew up and what he saw.
Speaker 2:Yeah but it's getting old now, okay, it's getting old, and then? So we?
Speaker 1:need some more huxtable shows.
Speaker 2:We need some more causing some successful, some successful black men and you and that doesn't mean that you have to be driving a bentley and nothing like that, but just taking care of your family. You know, you, you paying. You know, even if you, you know the you didn't stay together with the baby mama.
Speaker 1:However, you're paying child support, something positive so, like the dad on bmx, bmf, no, no no, I mean, this is, this is a serious subject to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I understand, serious subject to me and I hate it I hate it because there's some good guys out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Like maybe they can't pay their child support, you know, and I'm not justifying like why you can't this and that other but spend time with your kids and all. However, and I don't want to see another movie where it's like, you know, the dad can't do this and they fussing and this and that other. So back to what was like good times. Good times. It's like it is. It is what it was, you know, like they were struggling. They all pitched in, they got jobs on the side to try to help up with the whole dynamic dynamics of the family. So, even though it was, you know, all the times were not great, but anybody that actually watched the show and all you can remember, they always stood together. If somebody didn't have their rent money, they threw rent parties really you know, like it was a more.
Speaker 2:It was uh, we talk about a lot it was a village. Okay, like good times was a village, even though they all were struggling, they all gave to the needs of somebody that was falling short. So it was definitely a um, it was definitely a story within good times, even though you say James was mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think his times weren't always the episodes that I watched his times.
Speaker 2:Maybe we ought to watch it. Then we ought to take it from the beginning.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm open to that, but James was always mad, in my opinion. Let me give you some input on why I like the huxtables. Of course I love claire huxtable, felicia richard. Shout out to her, the beautiful, talented felicia richard. Her character, though, claire huxtable um, was everything. She was a mother, she was a wife, she was a accomplished attorney and she could give the most nice nasty read ever. She never raised her voice, but you knew she meant business when she rolls her eyes and she looks. You already know. And of course, you know I am partial to the two-parent household. I love the fact that they were professionals, but yet they were down to earth and relatable and they didn't give their children everything they wanted. The children had to earn things and they had to go to school and there was an expectation for them, for the children, by their parents, right, I like the fact that they gave real life situations. Um, they did.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's talk about okay, okay, you know what and I'm gonna listen to you but I have never seen an episode what? Where they talked about drugs and somebody had a you know like a drug problem and all. And I've never seen an episode when somebody was pregnant. So you go ahead and why does people have to have? But that was, but that was real life but that wasn't their life. Yeah, but what I'm saying? That was real, a real depiction of blacks I think like this stuff, different world.
Speaker 2:Someone was um pregnant but you had never seen that you would it was like a fantasy.
Speaker 1:Okay, why do we want to see somebody?
Speaker 2:we don't want to see it. But that I can, I can rationalize with that, you know okay let me see real life situations.
Speaker 1:I remember theo got his ear pierced and he didn't ask. He didn't ask for permission I think a lot of people get piercings and tattoos what else what? Else. Um, oh, when he went and got that uh 95 gordon gartrell shirt remember the shirt, it was no the golden gartrell I remember the shirt, but I'm just saying like, let me tell you. So this was realistic. So that's just like us wanting a tommy shirt back in the day and um, it was 95 dollars.
Speaker 1:And then, I guess, when cliff cliff saw the shirt and he looked at theo theo was, I believe, 14 at the time- and cliff said um, uh, no, 14 year old boy should have a 95 shirt unless he's on stage with his four brothers, meaning the jacksons. So that was, even though the parents had the money. He wanted the shirt. He had the shirt, but he had to take the shirt back. And his sister made the shirt for him, but it came out jacked up. So so situations where you want the Nikes, you want the Jordans, you know those things, and it's like no, that's too expensive, it's not practical, take it back, you know, but I just don't. I don't recall.
Speaker 2:I wish I could see my face.
Speaker 1:Everybody can't be on crack and pregnant. Brenda's got a baby. Nobody wants to watch. Brenda's got a baby. Nobody wants to watch. Brenda's got a baby behind the. The garbage can pregnant I? I don't I don't want to watch that neither, but at least I know I'm listening, okay um, I like the fact that the characters from the cosby show worked even after the show was over. Oh, do you remember? Okay, so there was a son-in-law named alvin he, I think he was going to med school light-skinned guy.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, so recently no, no.
Speaker 1:So after the show ended, this was like maybe less than five years ago alvin was found working at trader joe's. This is real life and people were clowning him like oh my gosh I can't believe you and so I remember that I think tyler perry gave him some work because it's like how are you? How are you on the cosby show, but now you're working at traded drills. At least he's working. Even young jock. Remember when people were making fun of young jock the rapper saying that he was driving uber.
Speaker 1:But people are trying to make it. You know people are trying to live and you know sometimes it's not you. You don't always get roles, you don't always get pitched for a movie and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:So like, why not? I get it. But I'm just saying like for TV, you know, because, believe it or not, these are the images that the world sees and other races see. However, it is what the Cosby's, you know like. Oh, you know.
Speaker 1:So it has a powerful effect on how one race or one particular group can be viewed, you know, like so then, if that's your point, why do we need to view um young women or teenagers being pregnant and using drugs?
Speaker 2:no, that's what you keep saying. What I'm saying is reality. Reality means is that you know what. I get free lunch at school because I'm in a low income area.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know, like I can't watch too many movies where they got Pizza Hut in there in elementary and then you know people are catering to them. It's not realistic elementary, and then you know people are catering to them, it's not realistic. You know, like I need to have, I need to have, I need to be able to touch and agree with whatever I'm watching even today, to be like that all the time, though.
Speaker 1:Is that what you want?
Speaker 2:no, not all the time you know it's always good to see that it's always good to see people be successful, you know, and going forward that's something to live for yeah, but what I'm, something, a goal to work towards, yeah.
Speaker 2:But to watch a whole episodes and episodes and episodes full of the Cosby show of, or unrealistic, not tangible, but it's going to take a lot of schooling, which a lot of us don't have. We don't have the funds. We didn't have that and we talking about back then now you know like it's, it's, it's just too far fetched.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe that's your, that's your opinion, yeah, that's. That was what was in your, your reach and your scope at the time, and maybe you didn't see that, so maybe it wasn't something that you saw that said, hey, I can do this, or I like to see this, or this is something that I look forward to seeing every Thursday night at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2:But for me.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed it, I liked it, I felt like it motivated you. Yes, and it took you out of the sometimes the reality. Sometimes you want to get away from the reality and watch something positive, something like obtainable, something that's like maybe far-fetched for many, but yet it's still obtainable yeah, but so that's why I'm like, with good times you didn't like good times it's like I don't want to see nobody, so you probably didn't see all the a majority of the no, I didn't right and see, I'm the same way with with the uh cosby show.
Speaker 1:The cosby show. I remember when florida threw that bowl on the ground and said damn, damn, damn.
Speaker 2:I remember that yeah, you know why she said that? Because he died. Exactly. You know how he died.
Speaker 1:He had a heart attack what car accident.
Speaker 2:See, that's what I mean, like I don't watch it?
Speaker 1:I did. I admit I did not watch it because I didn't like his character yeah, it's just unreal.
Speaker 2:And even today, like I like to watch movies or I'm very selective about what I would watch, but it has to be some kind of reality or you know, like I like to see the bad and then to see it develop to the good, you know, like somebody you know, maybe they were struggling, they used to be a drug dealer or something, and then maybe something changed.
Speaker 1:So why are you saying that about the Tyler Perry movies? It is bad, is no, but it does not change bad and it does not change they have a bad life and then somebody comes or a situation changes there for them, what's the difference?
Speaker 2:no, no, but but still you gave the image of the black man not being there or a bad image. Now you know like we're watching something and nino brown changes life and maybe you know he's not doing drugs now or selling drugs now. He's doing stuff for the community.
Speaker 1:I like to see that build up so he can sell cocaine on the streets and then give turkeys for thanksgiving and that's like he's he's doing it no, no, no, no you missed it.
Speaker 2:I said, like the build-up, like we know what nino brown used to do, but maybe he changed his life and he got out the game and now he's helping the community like I would like to see that the. I'd like to see that vision of the black man as like, okay, he was at his lowest and he was doing this, but now he's changed so why can't we look at the black man as?
Speaker 1:cosby show never did that it was always on the mountaintop so why can't we be looked at as on the mountaintop? Why do we have to be? Why do we have to struggle and work our way up? Why do we always have to be depicted in that way, where other people have a leg up generational wealth? Why can't we put ourselves in position or even think in that way?
Speaker 2:listen, that's a whole another. That's a whole another podcast that's why I'm team cosby show that's a whole nother podcast and I'm not saying that it's not tangible you can't do it yeah but reality is. Is that? You know, I'm just kind of like a reality type person that's not my reality like.
Speaker 2:reality for me is, you know, I will just be honest. You know, you, you grow up. You, when you was growing up, you say hey, you don't go. Well, I would. I don't think I've heard it that much, you know, it was just kind of thrown around. You don't grow up, go to college and do all this, however, but reality of like I'm the I'm a reality parent, you know just be honest what's your reality? Reality. Reality is is not all kids, or children are built for college okay, I agree with that you know like we promote, promote.
Speaker 2:Like you know what you go to college, you do this. Now there may be a trade that that the kid can do and still make a good living that's the goal to make a good right, and I'm not knocking.
Speaker 2:Uh, for all the listeners out there, I'm not knocking, even to my kids. Are y'all listening? Okay, I'm not knocking going to school by far, because you definitely want to get ahead, you know and learn a skill but ultimately you can do heating and ac higher is and make a killing because we all want to feel cool and feel and feel hot. You know what I'm saying in in a winter, so is you have to kind of know your children and reality is is like listen, you're not cut for school. Is that safe to say?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't. I would never tell anyone you're not cut. No, you don't tell, I wouldn't tell.
Speaker 2:I would not tell the kid that, but I wouldn't try to push a kid towards towards college and I know that their studying habits ain't there, their grades are not there, their mind is not there. That means I'm not going to say hey, you're not cut for school. I will never say that. But I can move as such as like say hey, maybe we can look into. You know like, since you, you know you like hair. You know since you, you know you like hair. You know you like you like working, you know plumbing or something like that.
Speaker 1:You like I'm clogging toilets or something like that. I'm a 16 year old and I love a clogging toilet.
Speaker 2:I get what you're saying plumbers make a lot of money shout out to the plumbers.
Speaker 1:Ass out there maybe if I like garbage trucks, you know like I like garbage trucks, you know I mean I think I get what you're saying, I think, but I think it's important to um hone in and focus in on the strengths right child has, and then kind of uh, mold and work with them in those areas right where they're at because you can be a professional student, you can be a very, very good student and you can have degrees after degrees and you can be a sorry sap sucking employee right you know um, so it just is, and it may not be, the maturity may not be there right
Speaker 1:or the realism of seeing what they can do may not be there, because a lot of times, like you mentioned, you didn't always hear. You know when you graduate, go to college so that you can be successful in life, but for some people that's what they heard or they were part of different programs. You know Jack and Jill. I mean, I won't say Jack and Jill because then you're going to say, well, that's for. You know special kids or well-off kids. You know certain things that upward bound things of that nature Kids were in, so they were exposed to a lot of different opportunities and they were able to see things that they probably didn't see or weren't taught at home. So I think it's important to really focus on what that child is good at and show them. Okay, here are some options that you can do and it's really up to them if that's what they want to do.
Speaker 1:But the goal is and I think this is where I get from the Cosbys they had the expectation whether you want to go to college or not. The expectation of the parent should be you need to find something to where, where you could be successful and or take care of yourself, not just stay in my basement all your life and wait for me to cook dinner so you can come upstairs and eat. No, the expectation is I'm going to meet you where you are with your expectations, but I'm not going to just allow you to just soak and waste away. You're not going to be playing video games and smoking weed in my basement all day.
Speaker 2:Right, I agree, I agree. But you know, good times it did the same thing, so good times did the same thing as a cosplay show.
Speaker 1:How so.
Speaker 2:Because good times worked with what they had. Even though they were poor, they still had chores to do. Michael still had to go out and go to school. Actually, he was good in school, you know. He still had to read those books and stuff like that. They promoted and pushed him to read books and to learn more. They push JJ into like JJ, he can paint really, really well, you know. So it's like I wouldn't try to push JJ to like go off to college and all Like I would try to get him to do something with the drawing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know. So it's like Was that that's what they did?
Speaker 2:oh, they did that's what they did and then so even in it, and it also the dad. He was always working, he wasn't at home, so even in their bad times they still can gleam off of what should be done.
Speaker 2:He was a provider for that family okay you know, yeah, he may have been mean he wore the same pants with a rip on the back, you know but he still gave that image of wanting better, even though he didn't have it like the Cosbys did. So, although you're saying, yeah, you know, like they were saying, you know, go to go to college. They was getting them exposure and all, but they were doing what they could at their level to do better. Now they could have just said forget it and we're just going to just perish here in the project. So, but that meaningful togetherness I can relate to, more so in good times than in the Cosby show. Okay, I mean, they were both teaching lessons and all you know they were both. You know, like I can only watch so much, like I like it. You know, I like to watch stuff like, oh, like Million Dollar Home, billion Dollar Homes, and they have all.
Speaker 2:I can watch it for so long I love stuff that I mean it's nice and it does motivate you to a point, but then after a while I'll be like I ain't okay. Okay, let me you know how can I implement. Oh, I mean, I just can't watch it all day. You know, I'm saying like it's not, it's not doing nothing for me at a certain point yeah, and I'm the opposite of that.
Speaker 1:I don't want to watch, uh, scenes from like I like certain shows like the wire, but that's not the reality. That I want to see boys in the hood, a great movie, but just stuff like that I don't want to. I like to see, like stuff that it's is like wow, I could work, could work towards that. I may not reach it, but I want to have better, see better, expect better, do better, think better, all of those things. So I mean, I think both shows, I would say, had different demographics, different groups of people that the shows reached, and in in both shows there was a story, there was a learning um lesson behind, and I think both groups of people got something out of it. So it did what it was supposed to do right, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, and when it's all said and done, what was so great about both shows is they were they. It was a, the image from different point of views and different viewpoints. For a black family, yeah so I'm not knocking the cosby show, I will watch it. But I mean, it's not like let me stop everything. And you know, because we didn't have that much back then. You know, uh, night rider you. You very seldom to none see a black person on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The A-Team. You know you had Mr T, you know, so that was like your bread and butter and you know it was like OK, that's cool, you know.
Speaker 1:So he was the black guy with the muscles and the mohawk and all the jewelry, right, right.
Speaker 2:So you know, it's like like, oh, that's cool, you know, like. You know, like I could see him, you know I could see what was cool about that though I mean, come on, it's just like he was, like he would like, you know, beat up people and you know like he was like a very um like people like fear him and all.
Speaker 1:However, is that not stereotypical though?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, but it's just, you can see, yourself it's relatable, okay, you know, like I, even though I like night rider and all, I never envisioned of saying, hey, when I grow up I want a car like night rider and that I can talk to and all whatever kit no no, no no okay, you know.
Speaker 2:So, um, and I think that's important, you know, know when, if people have opportunity especially, you know, blacks if we have opportunity to be in a place where you have a platform, and then you have people watching and all definitely use it for the advancement of people, especially our younger generation. You know, because they're watching and they're looking, you know yeah whether you're a rapper, you're a basketball player, baseball player. You know whatever you do. You know you do gymnastics. You know it's like people are watching.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know saying and it leaves an impression like you have an impression from good times and I had a impression from the cosby show. So I I do like so a lot of reality shows. Do you think that leaves an impression on on people? I know I like watching trash tv every now and then, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2:It's not like you have to be mature to watch trash stuff you do because you have to kind of cut off like what's real?
Speaker 1:life and what's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's I think that's, the problem we have today.
Speaker 1:You can't you know, a lot of people can't subtract the two yeah like this is not real life okay you can't just throw drinks on somebody in their face and expect security to just jump out the closet and and break up the table that's about to be thrown at you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:That's not realistic, it's unreal you're not going out to eat every day with your friends to talk about why the next door neighbor didn't invite you to the birthday party. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:And everybody can't be an influencer. I mean, I thank God I enjoy what we do here, but at the end of the day, we're not looking for fame or fortune, we just enjoy what we do and I think that's the love of stuff. I'm not, we're not looking for like fame or fortune, we just enjoy what we do and I think that's the love of stuff. All other things will come, you know. But you know, if you have a couple handful of people, I'm ever and you enjoy what you do, you know, like that's, that's the heart and soul of anything that you put your hands to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it should have a purpose. What you do should have a purpose, positive purpose, if possible, all those p's positive purpose, if possible, that's how people that's how people stop.
Speaker 2:You start a journey and you stop because you're looking for the the bam bam, bam and success stuff, you know, and then it's like it doesn't it always start like that. Most time, it doesn't start like that. You will have instances where you know, something jumps off and oh, this is going viral.
Speaker 1:This now, however, but I mean, you have to keep continuing to do it, right, yeah, but I think also and I'll just speak on on what I I think I understand like a lot of times, like if it's positive or it's non-violent or if it's something like that people aren't really interested in that people like the shock, the wow factor and the mess, the rat-a-tat-tat, the pop, pop, pop. You know, that's what gets the views right and it gets old like I don't want to see, you don't want to.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean at my age now it's like, listen, it gets old twerking doing all this.
Speaker 1:I mean, yay, hey, you know, I mean, hey, you know like I mean, it gets old, yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like I'm about getting paid okay or making you know some. You know like, hey, we got this life insurance screwed away. We got, like some you know know some health insurance. Why are you twirling and twerking Now? Your knees hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you can't even go to the hospital Like.
Speaker 1:so those things that matter. That is a point. If you have, if your four-year-old has an iPhone and an iPad and you don't have insurance for them life insurance or health insurance get some.
Speaker 2:Please.
Speaker 1:Please. It's $6.99 on Gerber Life, right? This is a shameless plug and we are not um endorsed, right? You know? Get your child some insurance, get some insurance now, while they're young you know, it's affordable too right, it's affordable it's less than a happy meal those are.
Speaker 2:Those are key tokens right there to all the listeners out there. You know, like you know, start now. You don't want to have to go, and I'm not. I'm not knocking gold for me and all, but make sure you have your ducks in a row, because we all have a time to roll up out of here then once you get all that, then you can twerk in a right now, because make sure you got health and then health insurance. You see what's going on now and that's going to be a whole nother show.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 2:You see what I mean the big beautiful bill Right. Okay, and I have been saying, especially to like some, some younger people, I've been sending it to them and that was all the proposal of what Of 2025.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what was it called? I forget something.
Speaker 2:Project 2025. Read it. Yeah, what was it called? I forget something project 2025. Read it, if you have not google it project 2025 majority of that stuff that's in that. That was created way back before the elections and all is coming full circle yeah.
Speaker 1:So prepare yourself. Don't just wait for the change. You be the change. You make something happen for yourself, whether it's in the eyes of good times or the eyes of the cause. Do something positive and productive for yourself and your family. Don't wait for somebody to say, hey, we're taking away your food stamps, we're taking away your housing, and then you're like going online and saying, hey, they took away my stuff. They told you, they warned you and you didn't prepare yourself. So put yourself in a position to where you are always prepared right, you know what that's?
Speaker 2:a whole nother. We definitely need to jot that down there, because there are some a lot of funky stuff going on. Um, I don't agree with it, you know, especially for our younger generation.
Speaker 2:You know, you know, because you're going to be our future leaders. Ok, and I know this is not like a laugh and slap the table type episode, but it's some really strange stuff going on in the land nowadays and you have to kind of see where is it going, how does it apply to your life and what do you need to do? Okay, because it's coming to the point now. It's not even no secret, you know, they're being blunt about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Blunt about it, you know. So if you can, you know, maybe be a part of the NAACP or something or any kind of organization that can help the community out, because voices need to be heard.
Speaker 1:Voices do need to be heard. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2:And they get my blood pressure Okay. Temperatures rise and get my blood pressure. But that's some some real talk there, you know definitely. So we hit up health insurance I mean life insurance and you say it's really cheap. And then how about every episode we drop like a token? You know I can do that. Yeah, let's drop a token and all things that we've kind of learned, or for real stuff, for real things for real acts for real, whatever you want to call, however, but these are life changing tips very much so.
Speaker 1:And also, if you're on a firm, what's the other ones?
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:If you're paying quarterly on a firm or every two weeks. What are the other programs? I heard that they are now doing credit checks. So if you're on that, after pay a firm and all of those things kind of wrap that up too.
Speaker 2:Your credit is very important.
Speaker 1:It's very important.
Speaker 2:See like you're coming up with a lot of topics here and all, so maybe we need to have like an education, like episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Especially for our younger generations, I'm telling you, even for some of our old ones, and it's okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never stop learning.
Speaker 2:There's always space to learn something new. Right, that's what the village comes in. So we're just a village. We all in your business but it's still village business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I like that village business village business say that three times village business village. Village business village, business village village business all right, that's that's cool, okay, so tell me one thing before we go what um? What did you love best about good times?
Speaker 2:what I love. That's about good times, what was your favorite episode.
Speaker 1:I don't know something that well. The favorite episode listen.
Speaker 2:We need more time and all but I'm gonna make.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna make it one short, a long story short.
Speaker 2:One day it was this lady, uh, this older lady. She lived upstairs. I have is the mega long story short. They was having like a rent party, I believe. So the rent party. Everybody would bring different meals and stuff. However, down to you know, and everybody can celebrate, and then they bring money, and then actually the old lady was having hard times and she couldn't pay her rent.
Speaker 2:She's going to get evicted Make a long story short. They kind of thought or found out or some type of way, I guess Michael, somebody went up to her house or whatever it is and they seen a whole bunch of dog food and the lady didn't have a dog. So they were thinking like, oh man, she's eating dog food and all. So anyway she decided to make meatloaf and bring it to the rent party. So everybody was kind of questionable.
Speaker 2:They was like, oh no, we ain't eating that Because they thought that she made the meatloaf out of dog food. So why did she have the dog food? Actually she, I think she, was eating the dog food, but she said I would never make you guys, you know, like meatloaf and use the dog food. But she was struggling that much. She was eating dog food but they thought that maybe she just instead of ground beef.
Speaker 2:she made uh uh, purina, purina loaf Purina loaf and she was like, yeah, that is right, I do eat dog food. You know what I'm saying, but I did not. I wouldn't give it to you guys. You know, like this is ground chuck.
Speaker 1:So that was one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was one of my um favorite rememberable episodes.
Speaker 1:I think I remember that. I think I remember that, I think I remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a lot of them, but that's one that come to mind. Hmm, what about on the Cosby show?
Speaker 1:I have so many. Just one I know, I know I'm trying to think of the one that just does it for me. Oh, I know when my girl, Rudy, the family was singing a Ray Charles song and the family was like in on it and singing and rudy did the baby she had no teeth. She was so cute. She had the best hair and she was so cute with those little missing teeth in the front.
Speaker 1:I think that was like one of my favorite episodes just watching yeah, cliff saying you know the nighttime babe, night and day, and claire was always so cute, and the and the rest of the family, and then little cute olivia, um, raven, simone, she's different now but yeah um, I just, I just really enjoy watching them grow up and I really I really enjoyed the show.
Speaker 2:So that was my takeaway okay, yeah, I remember that show. So, yeah, don't knock me out now. I used to watch the cosby show, but you know I would be like hit and miss here, but so that's good different perspectives different viewpoints, but definitely it did something to the culture yes, yes, I agree I agree, we have something to look forward to each week yes, yes, sir, yeah, yeah. Well, that just wraps up another one. What you think?
Speaker 1:I I love these conversations and I think and I like the fact that we have a difference of opinion. You know, I think our opinions kind of resonate with with different listeners.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You know, especially Ms Wales, Ms Wales.
Speaker 2:I'm still rolling my eyes at you. I'm waiting for you, you know, but Come through.
Speaker 1:Miss Wales, why don't you email us at allinyourbiz B-I-Z-Z. 25 at gmailcom and tell us if you preferred the Cosby Show or Good Times, or if you liked the Long Ranger or Little House on the Prairie? Exactly, miss Wales, let us know.
Speaker 2:Let us know. Let us know, give it one more, give it one more time for the people in the back.
Speaker 1:What's the email all in your biz.
Speaker 2:b-i-z-z 25 at gmailcom and, as always, we're all in your biz all in your biz.
Speaker 1:Thank you all and be safe, and until our next time, we are still all in your business Peace.