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Keeping It Trill: Government Shutdown 2025, Workers on the Line, Leaders on Vacation
Sirens aren’t blaring, but the harm is real: day one of the shutdown means planes still fly while paychecks don’t, safety lines stretch thin, and families start doing math they never asked for. We speak plainly about what a preventable crisis looks like on the ground—TSA agents juggling childcare without income, air traffic control scrambling to cover shifts, national parks going dark, and the FDA pulling back just when vigilance matters. When elected officials head out on break and still draw salaries, the message lands harder than any tweet.
We trace the domino effect from federal pay to neighborhood storefronts and service jobs, where every missed paycheck turns into a canceled order, a shortened shift, or a late rent check. Health care sits at the center: the ACA’s tax credits remain an imperfect but vital bridge to preventive care, especially as inflation lifts everything from food to premiums. Cutting that bridge doesn’t reduce costs; it shifts them to emergency rooms and hospital write-offs while families delay necessary care. We talk actionable fixes—maintain operations with extensions, bring multiple budget options to the table, and be adults about compromise. It’s not about left or right; it’s about people who kept faith with the system and need the system to keep faith with them.
We also call out tone and respect. The military deserves leadership, not public scolding or culture-war theatrics. Women serving deserve credit for carrying the same standards and sacrifices, not side comments. Civil order relies on trust, not intimidation. Competent governance means fewer memes and more midnight meetings until the work is done: protect aviation safety and food oversight, safeguard pay for those on the front lines, and keep health coverage accessible while we refine what isn’t working.
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Yeah, it's pretty gloomy today.
SPEAKER_00:We don't need to waste no time on the shit. Now let's get into this shit. So this one is not all that funny. No.
SPEAKER_01:But it's we're gonna keep it trilled.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's very much needed and all. Yeah. Um, we're gonna talk about the government shutdown. How about that?
SPEAKER_01:Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER_00:So we're gonna breathe. Uh inhale, exhale. Oh. Where do we start? Government shutdown 2025.
SPEAKER_01:October 1st, September 30th, midnight, October 1st, 1201. What the Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? This is I don't know where to start, but I will say that it this it could have been prevented, I believe.
SPEAKER_01:I think so. And I would like to start with giving my condolences and heartfelt empathy, sympathy, and all the things to all of the government, federal workers that have been um affected by this.
SPEAKER_00:Definitely.
SPEAKER_01:Those who are furloughed and those who have to work without pay.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Definitely.
SPEAKER_01:Um, my heart goes out to you. Um, my love and support goes out to you. And thank you for your service and what you do. Because this isn't, it's not easy, like I would say, for anybody to go to work every day without getting paid. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:That's a thin line between dedication and I gotta do what I gotta do. Right. And it can get real ugly in between those lines.
SPEAKER_01:And we appreciate you all. I know that um uh let's see, people who are going to work and not getting paid. TSA. TSA, we know, we know, but please be nice. Please be nice.
SPEAKER_00:You know, a lot of airports, it was the TSA, it was it was been a little tested with y'all TSA. Uh you know, but I I I did read that a lot of people, and I get it, they're calling off. Yeah, and that's how the domino effect's gonna start, because then everything's gonna start slowing down.
SPEAKER_01:As it should, as it should, because we have elected officials in office who uh took an oath to do this job and they should have done the job. So I mean you get what you get.
SPEAKER_00:They're on vacation.
SPEAKER_01:But if they're on vacation and other people are suffering, and they're and they still get paid.
SPEAKER_00:I can't believe that.
SPEAKER_01:Believe it. It's a thing.
SPEAKER_00:And this is not this is not about Democratic or Republic. This this this conversation is not that.
SPEAKER_01:My thing is responsibility is for everyone.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Yeah. But do you I really feel like the Republicans or the party, all the parties should have been there.
SPEAKER_01:I think so too.
SPEAKER_00:No matter if they couldn't agree, they should have been there sitting down trying to figure out how can we prevent this from happening.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, all night if they needed to.
SPEAKER_00:Right, because it makes it seem like like, you know what, whatever, we'll be back next week.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then we some people don't have next week. Some people have bills. Today's the first of the month. Cash your checks and come up. Some people can't even cash their checks and come up today. Right. Oh, shout out to um the uh so we said TSA, air traffic control.
SPEAKER_00:What about the military?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was going down my list. Oh air traffic control, those um people who are um working without pay. Thank you. We appreciate it for keep making sure that those planes stay in the sky. Right, even Homeland Security. Homeland Security, definitely. Thank you. ICE is getting paid though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, maybe that's like a different type of funds.
SPEAKER_01:It is, but do we need do we need that when we have other things that, you know, that's a whole nother conversation.
SPEAKER_00:And shout out to, and definitely shout out, I I know a couple people that are um ICE agent. Shout out to them because it's a job. Just like they come, like you go, you do your job, or whatever it may be. They chose to do that however it is, uh, you know, to uh they're just following their orders however it's doing, you know, not to get into who told them to do it and this and the other, but that's their job.
SPEAKER_01:I reserve comment, but nothing shout out. That's that's cool.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. But I mean that's their job. They're just like you can't tell the military, say, hey, I'm not gonna go to all these cities and all. They're just following orders, and that's their job. It's the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's not like not really, but yeah. It is they have orders to do certain things that they may or may not have to do. Right. I'm not I'm not but they elected this job for this particular reason. When you're in the military, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no, no, no. What? So so some so these people, some of the the ice people they they didn't sign up to to detain. So when you sign up for the purpose of ice thing, no, no, no. It's a it's a broad spectrum of what they do. That's just like uh the National Guard. I mean, they're don't they didn't sign up to be cleaning up paper um in DC or nothing like that. So it's just like you have a a large scope of things that you can do.
SPEAKER_01:But you can always quit if you're ICE agent and you don't agree with the job.
SPEAKER_00:No, you I think you I think that's being unreasonable.
SPEAKER_01:Why?
SPEAKER_00:Because you have an option.
SPEAKER_01:You can't, like in the military, you can't just say, hey, I'm not doing it anymore today and quit. That's different. When you apply to being an ICE agent or ICE employee, then if there's something that's being done that you don't agree with, you don't have to stay. Yes, it's a job, but you don't have to stay. You don't have a contractual obligation like you would uh say the military. I think there's a slight difference in the two, my opinion.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, that's going to be another conversation. Yeah, because I believe it's it's their job because I tell you, if I was still in the military, I would feel away if I had to be deployed within our own city and our different cities here in the US, and that's my that would be my job.
SPEAKER_01:That would suck.
SPEAKER_00:That would be that would be my job, and all how I still will shout out to the people that have to put their life online, because they are they're citizens just like we are.
SPEAKER_02:They are.
SPEAKER_00:You know, whether you're an ice agent or whatever you are, that is how you provide for your family. So I'm not saying you're you're getting no kicks out of it, you know, but that's that scope of being an ICE agent is is more um I don't know, is being pushed to the extreme. So now when ICE agents may have been um focused on other things, now they're focused on going and and doing raids and all this other kind of stuff, however. So I still say shout out to the people out there just doing their job to provide for their family. Let me just leave it at that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, at least some people can provide for their family, others cannot. But we'll we'll talk about that. That can be another topic of discussion.
SPEAKER_00:But shout out to all the people. I think anybody that's out there working. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If you're working, shout out to you. Yes, especially if you're not getting paid, shout out to you.
SPEAKER_00:Now, and I know it's gonna, you know, and I and I can see where this is going. So uh people are calling um out from not going to work, they're not getting paid. I mean, if you get enough employees to do that, it's gonna slow things down. And ultimately, it could put it to a halt. Yeah. Especially like TSA. Yeah. Can you imagine if they were they didn't have enough people to screen or what the lines would be like?
SPEAKER_01:That's a safety issue.
SPEAKER_00:Very well. It's a safety issue. And then uh even uh they saying some people that uh it's very just at minimum, like people at the zoo. Now, I'm not like a zoo fan, but we need them people at the zoo. You know, them chimps and stuff go wow, lions, you know. I mean, I say that in a funny way, but are you talking about like federal parks?
SPEAKER_01:Are you talking about zoo? Like national like national parks, okay.
SPEAKER_00:National parks, anything that has to do with the wow. You have people that are subject matter experts. Yeah. Just like with people that have got furloughed, like a lot of those people are subject matter experts. Mm-hmm. You know, and you esteem people to be essential, they're more than likely they're not the subject matter experts. It's the people in the trenches that are doing it and have been doing it for a while. Those people are the ones that the subject matter experts. So um shout out to the people that are called essential. Yes. I know it's a lot of pressure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, shout out to all our healthcare, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I know that put a definitely a that's stressful. That is stressful. Put stress a big, a big, big, big, big stressor. And then also to our business owners, too, because it's a domino effect because if people not getting money, then they can't shop your business. They can't shop your business, and then it's it just kind of twinkles down. But um the gut like like we were saying before, I think could have it could have been prevented because we knew this day was coming.
SPEAKER_01:You know, we knew it last year.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:We know it every year. Every year there's a scare, and then every now and then we get the the one-two.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but I mean, they could have I feel like they could have been diligently speaking and talking about these things. And I don't care about the memes and all this stuff. I mean, that's just like uh deterrent. Like, who cares if you're making memes and all this stuff here? Sit down at the table, and then both parties are saying, Well, if they want to talk, we can talk now. Somebody should say, Well, let's go over there. Yeah, let's do it, you know. Um, and I think it's just it's sad for the American people, um, because I think timing is everything. You know, there's a timing for anything that you're just trying to do, it's a a right time to do it. And if the timing is off, then everything else can crumble.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and yeah, we'll have to see, you know, what happens. Today's day one. So we'll see where it goes from there. I think the last shutdown, 18, 2018, 19, it was 3 billion. So we'll see. Right. Because with this shutdown, it does affect um um what is it?
SPEAKER_00:Um healthcare. What about that? That's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Well, healthcare, but then I'm just saying for the employees who aren't getting um paid, then um you have an increase in um what is it? Uh it's not the tip of my tongue. The increase in unemployment benefits. So now, I mean, we're already in debt. I mean, we're gonna go in debt even more. And I think we did a small calculation um for just an average of like an average pay per day of federal employees, and what was the amount? You said about four million a day, something like that?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no. It was like 750 million. It was a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was a lot, you know. If you multiply just a basic day salary, then I was like per day, because there's almost a half a million people affected. Yeah. And that's not including a million, yeah. Yeah, that's not including the people that that are working for free.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So then the contractors, you uh, we ain't think about those people that get paid by the government to work, you know, like they're contractors, you know, so it's gonna affect a lot of people. And I do understand the the health care issue. Like I get it, I understand, I I definitely understand it, you know, but um there should something should be implemented if you don't like what Obama, uh President Obama had put in place, uh, you know, with the health care, uh, however, but a lot of people depend on those breaks.
SPEAKER_01:And I will say that universal health care is huge for other countries that are established and they take care of their their citizen. Canada, Italy, Germany, places like that. Women can take off for a year, still keep their job, and still get paid. Try that in the U.S. If you don't have enough leave time, you may get fired. Then borrow try to borrow some. Try to borrow some some leave time, or you you if something happens to you or your child and you need to have an extended leave. There's always questions and things of that nature. Right. Other countries take care of their citizens, and we're supposed to be this huge, powerful country, but there's there's areas that we need improvement for. So uh universal health care was one of those things that we kind of copied from other countries, minus the tax credit, where it gives a citizen an opportunity to use this benefit so that they're not going to the emergency room for health care as opposed to preventive medicine uh measures. So with that, you get a tax credit if you qualify, you fill out the application. And some people do lie on their, I mean, who doesn't? Student loans, house loans, people lie, inflate their what they make or what they don't make on their application in everything, including taxes. And we'll talk about that too, because we're we're more focused. This country is more focused, I think, on we d they don't want immigrants getting health care. I get it. However, we don't want the rich lying on their taxes too. But anyway, so universal health care was established so that people can get preventive health care in advance as opposed to you using the emergency room where the charges are inflated and then it's gonna have to be written off by the hospital because let's just say it. If people don't have insurance, they don't have the money to pay for their health care. So this was established. It's not the best, however, this was the first time this was ever done. And we can this this could be something that can be tweaked, right? So that millions of citizens who use this benefit can still have health care. Um, maybe we can get more providers on who will accept it. They get paid at a decent rate. It in there are places in this program where it can be tweaked. However, to just completely remove funding from people who need it and who use this benefit and just say, hey, kind of fend for yourself. It's crazy. You know, we're post-COVID, it's hard because everything else post-COVID has has gone up, housing has gone up, food has gone up, insurance is going up every year. Insurance goes up, gas goes up, tuition goes up, everything goes up. So if your finances haven't gone up to the point to where you can support and pay for your insurance, what makes people think that folks, average folks, can afford it? And and there's a difference, a huge difference in those people who vote for these particular changes, i.e. healthcare, i.e. women's health, and they don't have the same issues. They have the better health care. They have money so they can pay for certain things. But let's get into the trenches for when these elected officials ran to be voted on and to be sworn in, it seems as if their views have changed once they've become, once they've made come into the position where, oh, we can write that off. It doesn't affect me. I don't understand why they need tax credit, they can just pay for it on themselves them themselves. It's not like that. So we have to be empathetic. We have to be understanding and remember the reason for for why you ran for this position to represent the people, and the people aren't all millionaires and billionaires. Right. These are average thousandaires that need help and support.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. And then what about the people that are getting furloughed or if they lose their job? So they'll they're gonna be in a Milton Pot too with maybe no health care or can't afford it.
SPEAKER_01:So furloughed employees, they can keep their health insurance. However, if they are terminated, that's it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if they're terminated, what they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01:Then you're gonna have to try to apply for some Medicaid, and they're changing the criteria for that too, so you may or may not make it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So it says the Department of Defense, out of three hundred and thirty-four thousand, nine hundred and four, they have furloaded maybe about seventy percent of it, seventy percent of it. Department of Defense. I don't um I don't get that. Department of Health. Department of Defense has um three hundred and three hundred and thirty-four thousand nine hundred and four.
SPEAKER_01:So three hundred and thirty-four, or so let's say three hundred and thirty-five thousand. Okay, and seventy percent have been furloughed.
SPEAKER_00:That's correct. Department of Health, they said uh thirty-two thousand four hundred and sixty have been furloughed, and they only kept forty-seven thousand. The uh department, the the department of the state, sixteen thousand six hundred and fifty-one were furloughed. They only kept nine thousand. NASA furlough fifteen thousand. And they own they had uh furlough of fifteen thousand or uh retained three thousand.
SPEAKER_01:So they retained three out of fifteen thousand.
SPEAKER_00:That's in NASA, so no more spaceships.
SPEAKER_01:FDA, Food Drug Administration, you better be praying over your food because we have no FDA. Yeah, I mean, like, I I I don't get it. Yeah, like these are really important federal funded departments that we need, and why don't we have them?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and you know what really kind of got under my skin, because this is not again, this is not Democrat or Republican. But what really got under my skin is how one we don't say one party was there and they wanted to, you know, vote and do all this here, but the other party was on vacation.
SPEAKER_01:That's my point. If you are if you were voted in, yo ass sorry, you should be at work and you should stay there until an agreement is made. Was that not a kick in the face? It was a kick in the face because everyone who is affected by this can't go to work or going to work or going to work and can't get paid, yeah. You are on vacation, getting paid, enjoying your life while other people suffer. Not okay. Right. And when it's election time, remember that. Please, people, please remember that. When it's time to vote, get your butt up. Even if it's early voting, get your butt up and go vote. It matters. As you can see, these things matter.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was such a kick in the face. It's an insult. It was such a kick in the face. And and this is they, I think they were went on leave like a couple like at the beginning of the week or or a couple days prior to it. Say, hey, y'all gonna leave. And then they're not supposed to be back until maybe next week.
SPEAKER_01:I think it was Jewish holiday or some sort.
SPEAKER_00:It's a holiday tomorrow. Holiday. And then they possibly come back Friday, but I guess everybody's gonna be back next week. So there was a time, and I remember when they I went to sleep and woke up, and all of them were still there. They were still there talking about it. Yeah, they it was just like all nighter. What happened to those days?
SPEAKER_01:Those were the days.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. What was going on? I mean, because they had to get a job done.
SPEAKER_01:And that's what I agree. Get the job done. Do the work that you campaigned for to be elected, go to work, get it done.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, that's deep. That's deep there. So before we uh I don't because I don't want to forget. So, what do you think about these memes? And all, you know, Republicans, all they're doing is laughing at the memes and saying they're funny. Nobody's really directly.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's a distraction. I think it's childish and immature. Um, for people to be of a high esteem and and hold a certain position to represent this country, even with the wall of photos in the White House that has uh Biden's pen uh or electronic pen or whatever. I think it's all childish and immature. And it it's a distraction and it it goes against what people truly voted um for as a representative um for this country. I think it's childish, it's immature, it has uh racial tones, um, and it's it's just it's silly because when we're doing making memes, we could be focusing on a budget, we could be focusing on how to improve health health care, we could be focused on how we can control our immigration issue uh ethically. We can focus on how to be respectful to one another, we can control how to keep peace within the country and crime down. There's many things that we can do as opposed to being playing on the computer and posting things and and being silly and and spewing insults, calling people names, things of that nature. This is this is a time and era where it's just classless. It's very much so classless. And it's almost an embarrassment.
SPEAKER_00:It is an embarrassment.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm sure there's other countries and they're just they're laughing. Yeah. They're on the floor, like I mean, on the floor.
SPEAKER_01:Or maybe in shock because they can't believe how childish this country has become.
SPEAKER_00:Now, do you think I think like a lot of countries, even though sadly he represents the us in the United States, but I think a lot of countries or people that deal with uh the president kind of associate those acts with just him because it's not the United States.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. I think um they see that some people are, you know, um followers of him, but I think most countries look at it like, oh, something this guy is kind of you know off his rocker a little bit. Like he wants it, it seems as if he wants to mimic other presidents um and and be a dictatorship and you know, controlling like some other presidents of other co uh countries. So I and even reading like comments on social media or um different websites, you know, people from other countries often say like, wow, I'm I'm I feel bad for you, or I can't believe that this is what this country looks like, or you know, keep up the fight, or you know, wow. I mean, sometimes all you can say is is wow.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. And then we have our hands in so many things. Yeah. Domestically, and you know, just in foreign places, but definitely uh the deployment of troops, that really kind of gets under my stand too, because you don't ever want the the people to turn against their own military. Right. You know, because some of these some of some of these individuals are could be neighbors, they could be somebody, you know, but these are your friends. But the military, like we represent the United States of America.
SPEAKER_01:Let's talk about that with that um discussion yesterday with the high-ranking officials all being in one location and just getting dog walked in front of everyone. Like, what was that about?
SPEAKER_00:That's a disgrace, you know, talking about PT tests, you know, like this is standard. This you're you're he was talking to them like they were privately, like they had just entered into the military, you know, and then they come from all over the world, all all over, which is definitely a security risk.
SPEAKER_01:And it's expensive.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so it was expensive, and then if you know, you had the the uh the vice president there, you had the the president. I don't think the vice, you had both everybody was there. So somebody could say, you know what, I'm gonna just chance it and try to, you know, just blow everybody up while they're there, you know, and then you announced it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think that should have been, if it were to be announced, it should have been after the fact. Like they met up after the fact. And the the scolding probably shouldn't have never been publicized because I think it's an insult. Like you have these this group of people that represent the safety of the of the country, but yet you're talking to them as if they are two-year-olds who just uh wet themselves, like not okay.
SPEAKER_00:Right, and they're fat and out of shape with beards, and then some choose to wear dresses. Yeah. So I I mean, you know, just some of the comments he you know, he was saying like, you know, uh stop wearing, you know, something about dresses, like men with dresses on. Like I didn't I didn't really get that there, but that's still a negative connotation. I I I wouldn't I wouldn't say that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I and I also feel like the tone was more so like we're gonna release troops into larger cities and you do what you do. So I I'm not comfortable. Um and you know, please feel free to reach out if that's not what that meant. But I'm not comfortable with the military has uh discipline and bearing, and you know, they're supposed to be structured and do things the right way. When is it ever okay to talk as if you are releasing the military as if they are barbarians in the street and they're gonna take everybody out? What's that movie before Halloween? Uh what's that thing called before Halloween? And people like are just killing folks and doing or doing what they want to do.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think it's called It's called Devil's Night because they do that uh big time in Detroit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, do all kinds of of craziness, and it's like this is not okay. This is not okay. So it's like we need a revamp of all of this craziness because it is out of control. It really is. And I if I were in the military, I would never feel comfortable with doing something unethical and illegal. But they have an oath. And if you don't like it, you can leave. But okay, but then you'll lose your rank and you'll lose all these things. So it you're kind of forced. Do you do it or do you just show up and then don't do anything? I don't know. But something needs to be done. And it seems as if nothing can be done with all these crazy demands and and crazy things that's happening. Um, and it's something that we probably never thought we would see in in this generation.
SPEAKER_00:Right, because you're setting a tone from uh up high. So, you know, the followers down low and you know, all the way down to the privates mean they get the the brunt of trying to translate what these people are trying to say.
SPEAKER_01:And then even the citizen will probably take things into their own hands and try to feel as if they can do, you know, citizens arrest and and act out and cause so it does have a a uh an effect, right, you know, coming from the top all the way down.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And and how people are treated and how streets are monitored and and how people uh respect one another.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And then peop and then a lot of you know, some of a lot of soldiers or they may reflect back and say, hey, like I I I watched the interview, you know, and this is what was said, and they just feel like they just can't it may be too extreme. Yeah. You know, like some of these, even though we I did, you know, give a shout out to ICE, you know, whatever, but some of them like lately they have been off the side.
SPEAKER_01:That's aggressive, yes.
SPEAKER_00:Off the chain, but I get it. I I understand their position, you know, but you can't treat people just any old kind of way, you know, because they had a high alert, because you know, I get it, but you don't have to take it out on news reporters or women or like how do you act how do you behave that way and then assume that people shouldn't respond in a way stress. I think it's stressful. And then even when he was talking about women, like that really kind of turned me off too. It's like you're trying to make it seem like Oh, of the PT standards, yeah. Or just in general, like, okay, like women make things happen in the military. Uh-huh. You know, like whatever you know, whatever position that they in, what they're in, they still they still have to go by standards. They still, you know, they have to get up early, still their life is still they still sacrifice just like anybody else. So I don't like the the persona that he's making, like, this is just a man's army, and if you don't like it, you can leave. So be it, yeah. Yeah, like we can have, you know, like the women do just the minimum stuff and all, but a lot of women have been in command or not in command, or just they're leading the way and they lead troops just like men do. So badass women. But he's always been he's always kind of been anti women. Yeah. Yeah, try to shame women's soldiers on I I I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like that at all.
SPEAKER_01:It seems like I I think a lot of women could probably agree that uh I think the tone is more so women should have a place just to be a mother, a wife, and and that's it. You you deal with whatever you get, you you cook, you clean, you you don't have any rights to your body, you don't have any rights to say too much of anything, you just stay in your place. And that's not how women have evolved in this country. You know, women work construction, women build houses, women are physicians, women are nurses, women are attorneys. So it's like a lot of different things that, and again, I would feel a way if I knew that someone that I worked for felt this way, and I'm just still smiling and just like, hey, everybody, we're doing our job. Because he has a lot of women that work under him. They all kind of look alike, you know, they all have this youthful look and blonde, you know, whatever. He has a type. However, it's like how I wonder how they truly feel after the TVs go off behind the scenes. How do they truly feel about the person that they represent every day? And knowing that they may feel that way about women. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think it's it'll come out. I think ultimately that regime um is they is gonna they're gonna clean house and then some of the things and people, you know, they'll they'll sit back and think and kind of you know, remember 2025, 2024 and say, man, you know, maybe they'll come out with a book and then the truth will come out, but this cannot continue to go on, however, we don't want. Um same thing like police, you know, like you want police in the community, but you want to make people feel safe and be a part of the community, not when when police come around to make it seem like, oh, it's hostile, they they come to start trouble. Now there are cops, just anything that do they they do come to start trouble, but you don't want the military, you know, especially when you get orders, now you're just out here just shooting. Like I would feel some type of way if uh if a if a soldier had to shoot an American person here in just any city, like that wouldn't even it doesn't even sound right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, even with protesting, that's a a right that people have. And yeah, sometimes they get a little crazy. However, where or if you say something that you know someone doesn't agree with, that doesn't give you a right to hurt them or to disrespect them or any of the things. So it's like we're getting away from like we still have constitutional rights that certain people have and they operate in and then others they don't. So uh I I just really hope that we have a change really soon with how people are treated, respected, governed, and we can move forward and and be a better country.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right, I agree. But last but not least, let me get your perspective on this before we um close this out here. So if you were in a position to be um one of the senators or something like that, or what position would you hold? Would you say, hey, let's go on government shutdown, or would you say no, let's let's keep the government open and why?
SPEAKER_01:I would say let's keep it open because this this discussion is not about or this this budget is not about ego, it's not about left, right, middle. It's about the American citizens, again, those who elected us to be in these positions. So our role and obligation is to do the work that we were um elected to do. I would ask for an extension so that people can remain operational and funded. And then I would definitely have a more detailed plan with several different options. You know, the first one or two or three may or may not, you know, be favorable, but something so that we can come to the table and have a real conversation about budget, about healthcare, all the things so that we can pass a resolution resolution and move forward successfully, financially, and ethically.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I agree with that as well. I I I think that the I would agree that the there should not be a government shutdown, and then maybe allow some more time to do what should have been done months ago.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we had enough time, but yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, and sit down and and you guys kind of figure it out, say, hey, what could we do to, you know, it's and it's is it can't be just one-sided. No. There's gonna have to be some compromise. Yes. And then also remember that we don't, you know, like you don't control the House or the Senate. So it has to be compromise and all, and you have to kind of keep it at bay until election comes up again, and you know, maybe there can be new leadership in place. But right now, you have to think about the people. And it's not about okay, you know, we're gonna stand up for what's right and all timing is everything. It is. And anything that you do in life, timing is everything. Because because if you don't do it at, you know, if you do it too early, then it could backfire, you know. If you can say, hey, let's just kind of wait it out and let's talk about it. So these little talks that y'all having, talking about, well, y'all didn't talk this much, then maybe every day until it comes to a resolution, then that's what needs to happen.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, make it a point to have these conversations before they get heated, time elapses, and then you have thousands of people who are now at bay. Yeah, you don't have any money, you can't take care of your family, and now you're on unemployment, adding to the numbers. Like it's it has it does have a huge domino effect on um how this operates. So let's do better.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Everyone. I agree. So hopeful, hopefully some of some of those, some of those people will change their votes. I know I think it was currently like three people of the Democrats, they say, hey, yeah, we want the government to stay open.
SPEAKER_01:And let's be favorable too. Let's come up with something that's realistic. Um, I don't think at this point with this inflation that it's even ideal for tax credits to be completely removed because then you have people that won't have health care. So let's let's be reasonable. It may not be as much, possibly, but let's do something.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Call me. I'll I'll have some some some answers. I'll I'll I'll work on the team.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, call me. Put I'll be in the I'll be the mediator, and then you know, put the idea. It just needs to be one person. It doesn't even need to be say, hey, let's get okay. You like this, you like this, you like this, you look okay. I got it. Let's put it on the table.
SPEAKER_01:Or some A uh some lean Six Sigma A3 people, come on, we'll get the fishboard, we'll get the whole wall with sticky notes and we'll figure it out. But we have to do something. Like, this is not okay. And so many people are affected by this, and and that's not what we need.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And some of these people are, and a lot of these people are in their states. Like, even if you're Democrat or Republican, like they're in the the Republican or the Democrats, they're in your states where you know, like those people, they're dependent on you, you know. Yeah, they're dependent on you. And sometimes it's not it's not okay to go with the crowd when you know at the end of the day, you're going to people that you know personally, you know, they're gonna be affected by that. Yeah. You know, so you have to think about not just you, because you're still gonna have health care, you're still gonna get paid, you know, and I feel like if we're gonna go into a a government shutdown, nobody should get paid. Right. Not even none of the elected officials should get paid. Nobody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it may not be nothing, it may not be nothing for you not to get paid, but it's like, let's take some of your benefits away, just like everybody else, until you figure it out. Yeah. You stop your health care in a h, you know, until you figure it out. Let's do all these things here, and then like if give it a time limit. If you don't come up with a plan, the time limit, how about you get for load and you lose your job?
SPEAKER_01:Or you lose your job. Yes, you lose your job because you're not doing the job that you were elected to do. If you can't do the work, you lose your job.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:So that'll put And somebody else can sit in your place.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's perfect. So by October the 15th, if you don't have, you know, if you don't have what then you know, let's get rid of everybody.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And let's, you know, let's have a let's elect different people because there's no need to hold a seat if you're not going to accept the responsibility and then to actually do the job.
SPEAKER_02:I agree.
SPEAKER_00:So that's our take on it. But guess what? We still all in so we you're still all in your biz, though.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we all in your biz, but then sometimes we have to get a little serious and keep it trill. But yeah, we all in your biz. We, you know, if if you are an employee who has been furloughed or you have uh just anything to say about this government shutdown, you know, reach us uh at all in your biz.
SPEAKER_00:Can they reach us?
SPEAKER_01:All in your biz B-I-Z-Z 25 at Gmail.