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Crustables & Childhood Chaos
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Childhood hits different when you look back and realize half your personality came from recess drama, cafeteria politics, and that one cousin who stayed doing the most. This isn’t the soft-focus nostalgia people pretend to have — this is childhood with bruised knees, unhinged memories, questionable lunch menus, and the kind of chaos that still shapes your adult coping mechanisms.
In this chaotic time capsule, Anthony and Nalee revisit the moments that raised them, scarred them, fed them (literally), and turned them into the competitive, petty, emotionally unpredictable adults they are today. Between playground betrayals, school lunch hierarchies, cousin conspiracies, and cultural beauty standards no one asked for, this episode blends comedy, comfort, and cringe in the most Twin Tangents way possible.
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🥏 Recess Royalty & Playground Politics → lava tag rules that made no sense, dodgeball trauma, getting picked last, and discovering your inner “pick-me” tendencies way too early
🍕 Cafeteria Hierarchies → the sacred race for school pizza, the mystery seasoning on those god-tier fries, lunchroom bartering, and why canned peaches tasted so elite
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Back To Childhood, Snacks And Drama
SPEAKER_00Welcome back to Twin Tangents.
ANTHONYOh my God.
SPEAKER_00Welcome back to Twin Tangents, the podcast that's basically your emotional support time machine. And today we're heading straight to childhood where the drama was real and snack time was sacred.
ANTHONYGod, we take a lot of trips down to our childhood. That is where all the drama started. Episode 26 is a wild ride through the glitter-glued chaos of our childhoods. We're talking weird family rules, questionable fashion, and the early signs that we were not quite like the other kids.
SPEAKER_00So whether you're a PBS kids or a Cartoon Network delinquent, we're about to trigger your inner childhood and your inner child and your allergies.
ANTHONYDo you want to say that again?
SPEAKER_00Nah, we're good. Y'all understood the point.
ANTHONYAll right. Everybody grab your gushers, cue the Lisa Frank flashbacks.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I love Lisa Frank.
ANTHONYRight? The colors?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYLet's get into it. Because some of these memories didn't age well, and neither did our knees.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so our first segment is about recess, royalty, and playground politics. The topic that I wanted to talk about was the unspoken rules of tag, dodgeball, and foursquares. So uh of those three, what were like your favorite games? Or do you know what they all are?
ANTHONYI I've heard of Foursquare. I don't think that I've ever played it.
SPEAKER_00I judge you.
ANTHONYIs it is that bad?
SPEAKER_00No, it's fun.
ANTHONYOh. I mean, it's not I mean it's bad that I don't know that game.
Recess Rules And Playground Games
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's like our generation. But then again, I think you're in a different generation.
ANTHONYNo, I think we're in the same generation. I think we are, but you're just like you're like, I feel like those games had like phases.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I guess. Well, four square was the thing where there's people in obviously a square, but then there's four squares within that big square. And then you play it with a basketball. So you kind of pass it to each other, like it bounces. It cannot bounce in your square, if I remember correctly.
ANTHONYBy yeah. You lost me at basketball.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
ANTHONYMy hand-eye coordination.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, there's four squares and there's two squares. We just play it with two people. But I don't think two squares is really a thing. I think we made that up. I don't know.
ANTHONYI could never play that game because unlike you, Nolly, I'm not a square.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
unknownI can't.
SPEAKER_00Calling me a double loser, bitch.
ANTHONYLoser, loser, double loser. What is it? Twist.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's loser, loser, double loser. Yeah. Square. Yeah, it's okay. Well, be square or be there or be square. So whatever.
ANTHONYI don't want to be square, so I won't be there. But to answer your question, when I was a kid, the big thing that I remember playing was like freeze tag.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I love freeze tag.
ANTHONYYeah. And red robin, red robin.
SPEAKER_00I don't really remember that one.
ANTHONYOr Red Rover. Red Rover.
SPEAKER_00It's like Red Rover, Red Rover. Red Rover, Sennali Over. Oh, okay. And then they would have to catch that person, right? Like they would have to catch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So tag. Like, did you guys have like any rules or anything like that?
ANTHONYI don't honestly remember. I feel like those games when we were kids, like it was just like we made up the rules. Yeah. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I know me and my siblings, we played like tag, like even when we were like low-key, like in high school.
ANTHONYI don't see anything wrong with that.
SPEAKER_00But like we used to go to like the park because like I don't know if kids go to the park anymore. Maybe they do, but with their parents or whatever. But like when we were younger, my older brother, he used to take us to the park and we would play like lava tag. So we cannot be on the ground. And if we were, we were only allowed like maybe three to five steps. And like everybody would always be concentrated on whoever's on the floor or like on the ground. Because if they overstep, then they're immediately like the it person.
ANTHONYThey're burned alive in the lava.
SPEAKER_00Or I don't know if you guys ever played like tag flush the toilet.
ANTHONYNo, I can honestly say. So I never played that.
SPEAKER_00So like if you like, I forgot I kind of forgot how we played it, but I think it was like some form of tag. And then if you get tagged, you have to kind of freeze like a toilet, and then your other teammates would have to come and flush you, and then you would you're free. And then you could run around again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So generational thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's making us look real fucking bad right now.
ANTHONYThey went from playing toilet.
SPEAKER_00Toilet tag.
ANTHONYToilet tag to eating.
SPEAKER_00Or flush the toilet or whatever.
ANTHONYLike pods.
SPEAKER_00Fuck the eating pods. Oh, I don't even know what that was about.
unknownGod.
ANTHONYThat's when I knew that our society was in danger.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd they started eating the details. And then what did they start doing after that? Weren't they like snorting condoms?
SPEAKER_00What the fuck? No, I don't know. I know some were eating the powdered like detergent. Was that a thing? I don't know. Or snorting like powdered detergent.
ANTHONYWell, I know that they were they were eating the Tide Pods.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Kids are fucking stupid these days. So I don't fucking know. But and then dodgeball. I love dodgeball.
ANTHONYYou know, as much as I say I didn't have like h hand-eye coordination to play with balls. I did enjoy dodge.
SPEAKER_00You did a big grit.
ANTHONYI did enjoy dodgeball.
SPEAKER_00But a tssh.
ANTHONYBut um Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You what?
ANTHONYI didn't bo enjoy dod and blow. I did enjoy dodgeball.
SPEAKER_00You did blow, but you didn't enjoy dodgeball.
ANTHONYI did.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. I was thinking about the other thing, but eh, both works. I like dodgeball. I hated playing with my brothers, though, because you know, you're like siblings. Throw it really hard at you.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYBut I I like dodgeball, but I hated the start of dodgeball when he had to like run up to the line.
SPEAKER_00And grab the ball real quick. Yeah.
ANTHONYI just waited until they threw the balls and then I found one on the ground.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I did enjoy dodgeball. I love gym.
ANTHONYYou liked gym?
SPEAKER_00I did.
ANTHONYI hated gym class.
SPEAKER_00Did you?
ANTHONYHated. But I mean it probably doesn't help that I was like fat and not F1.
SPEAKER_00Well, I was fat too. But I'm very competitive.
ANTHONYYou are very competitive.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So yeah, I loved I loved all of it.
ANTHONYWell, remember, I I have said like my competitiveness didn't come out till like later in life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYSo yeah, I was not competitive at the time.
SPEAKER_00I think I'm the opposite right now.
ANTHONYYou're not competitive enough? I'm not.
SPEAKER_00I just about anybody anymore.
ANTHONYReally?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I'm a bitter old bitch right now.
ANTHONYWelcome to the club. One of us. One of us. One of us.
SPEAKER_00What about you?
ANTHONYAbout dodgeball?
SPEAKER_00No, like what's what's something you wanted to talk about? Unless you're not done talking about dodgeball.
ANTHONYI mean, we could talk about dodgeball and how I was not the most athletic, but we don't want to take that much of a detour down memory line.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I wasn't super auth athletic too. I think we've talked about it before, but like when I started getting like when I started getting to running a lot, that's when I was like, oh, okay, I see the I see the fun in gym. Like when we were playing volleyball, I was always the person who was diving to get the ball, even though I fucking sucked. I'm like, I'm gonna hit it over the net. Like I don't get I don't care. I'd go home with like bruises on my knees and shit.
ANTHONYCouldn't do it. I'm too much of a pansy ass. And I love diving in sand volleyball.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYI love sand volleyball. I should go back and start playing again.
SPEAKER_00It's too messy.
ANTHONYSand volleyball?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it gets everywhere. Oh my god, I have a funny story.
ANTHONYWhat's that? What's that have to do with the price of raising China? I can take a shower.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I have a funny story on the side about sand volleyball. So when and Chili, if you're listening to this, you'll know.
ANTHONYThrowing Chili under the bus.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's it was when her and her now husband Jay, he it was when he first came into town, and we were it was I think we were we just started to get to know him, and she was trying to introduce him to us, and we went to go play volleyball at what's that that place over that has a sandwich. Wagner's. Yeah, Wagner's. And so then we were playing in again, I'm very competitive, and so then I think Jay, if I remember correctly, he was on the opposite team, and I had spiked the ball and hit Jay in the head, and it bounced off. But they think that I did it intentionally, but it wasn't like because right when he looked at me, I like threw it and then I spiked it. And it like bounced off his head, and they're like, You did that on purpose. I'm like, I did not, like, I swear to God, I didn't I didn't do it on purpose.
ANTHONYLike aiming at no scene right out of a movie where you like meet the the best friend's significant other.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I didn't do it on purpose, though. I I didn't do it on purpose. I think my reaction was a little delayed. That's why it looked like I did it on purpose, but I didn't. And then yeah, it was just hilarious because Oh, he was on my team, and I think he was in front of me. I don't remember.
ANTHONYI just know that he was either he was Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't know if he either he either was in front of me or he if he was on the other side, but I remember I hit the ball and it bounced off his head, and they were just like, oh my god. And I'm like, I did not do that on purpose.
ANTHONYYou lime bitch.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, it was funny. That was it.
ANTHONYThat was it. That was the end of your story?
Dodgeball, Gym Class, And Competitiveness
SPEAKER_00That was the end of my story.
ANTHONYWell, the thing that I wanted to talk about was like the hierarchy and like lunch food.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYI don't know how your school was set up. My school was set up.
SPEAKER_00We had a conversation about h lunch at school.
ANTHONYWe did before, didn't we? Yes.
SPEAKER_00But we're gonna deep dive this time.
ANTHONYDeep dive this time. We had like our school was set up so that they had like the main lunch item, but then they also had the alternative, which was always pizza.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYAnd it was like a race to get the pizza because when it was gone, it was gone. And I remember kids used to like ask to like go to the bathroom before lunch just so because the the bathrooms were close to the cafeteria. In the literally in the cafeteria.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
ANTHONYSo they would like go out and hang out until the bell would ring.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
ANTHONYAnd then like dart to the front of the line, and they're like, I'll get my books afterwards. Yeah. Just leave them in the class.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy.
ANTHONYThere's always a race to get the books.
SPEAKER_00That's real calculator out there.
ANTHONYMm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00I think my favorite, like my favorite, favorite, like lunch item was the case the triangle quesadillas.
ANTHONYReally?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I loved that. I don't know why. It was so good. It was good. Yeah, and the and our personal round pizzas.
ANTHONYOh, those are so good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like when I think about it, it tastes cheap, but it's so good.
ANTHONYI loved cheap. I went through a phase where I would go to like Walmart and I would buy the personal pan pizzas, red baron, pepperoni. It was like two minutes in the microwave.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was.
ANTHONYMy fat ass was in heaven. I'd eat like fucking a box of those on me.
SPEAKER_00And it sounds real stupid, but I like the high school that I went to, they had like the best like um chicken Caesar salad. Like the grilled chicken was so good. Like because it's kind of like what you're thinking. I kind of forgot what I was gonna say.
ANTHONYChicken Caesar salad.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so okay, yeah. So chicken Caesar salad, if that was the main thing, they would have pizza. So I always like was conflicted on should I get the chicken Caesar salad with the good chicken or should I get the pizza? Because their pizza was really good too.
ANTHONYSchool pizza was the best.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, and they had the best seasoned fries. It was so good.
ANTHONYNo, not a sons. Like thinking about like food that I had in my school, like we didn't have a lot of good food. Like the pizza was the best. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm trying to like remember like what things we ate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYPizza corn.
unknownCorn.
ANTHONYI don't know why they always thought pizza and corn went well together.
SPEAKER_00Like canned corn.
ANTHONYYeah, I'm assuming it was canned.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's kind of weird, but I always loved the the green beans.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I loved it. Like every time I came, I'm like, this is gonna be a good meal. Pineapple. Oh, pineapple is pretty good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I hated the mixed fruit with the cherry. I hated that.
ANTHONYReally? Yeah. I love that, but only if I got a cherry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I hated that. I fucking blessed it. Because it's like a mix of the fruits, so it tasted weird. I love the peaches though.
ANTHONYBut I still peaches were really good. And Okay. Okay. Probably an unpopular thing here, but I need your opinion. Maybe you'll validate me here.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYIs it just me or did like school food taste better? So, like, just even like the corn or the peaches. They're canned peaches, but they tasted so much better than if you were to go to the grocery store, buy a can of thousand percent. I don't know what that it what did they lace that shit with.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's how we keep coming back.
ANTHONYI would go back for sure just for the food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYSome of the food anyway.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I had a conversation with somebody about like going to buy like school lunches. Because you know how like the what's that store here in Eau Claire that sells the school lunches?
ANTHONYBut Indian had food?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So we had attempted to buy like stuff from there. And when we ate it, we're just like, it's good, but it's not good like when we were in school. You know what I mean?
ANTHONYYeah. I do because and I haven't had any in a while. And I think we we had this conversation because I didn't know that Indian had had the school pizza, and I found that out. And I was like, bitch, I'm gonna go and buy it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, like the breakfast pizza?
ANTHONYOh, there was a bagel?
SPEAKER_00Not the bagel, but they had squared pizza pieces of pizza. Yeah, those are so good. Like, especially for breakfast, I loved eating that.
ANTHONYOur breakfast pizza was on a bagel. It was a bagel with some sort of like breakfast sauce, and then there was sausage and cheese on it. It was so fucking good.
SPEAKER_00That sounds so good. Oh, what does not taste the same is fucking buttered toast with cinnamon and shinnam and brown sugar. It does you cannot replicate that. Yeah. I've tried it so many times, and I'm like, this shit tastes whack. Like I'm such high school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It was so good though. Like nothing, nothing will ever beat that.
ANTHONYKids will never know how good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. There was this other thing that I really liked, but I forgot what I was gonna say. I don't remember, but now I'm celebrating.
ANTHONYI didn't like their burgers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, chicken, their chicken patty.
ANTHONYLike it was the chicken patty sandwiches.
SPEAKER_00Yes. That's what we attempted to buy. And yeah, when we made it, we're like, this shit sucks, dude.
ANTHONYLike I yeah, yeah, I know it's not the same. I tried to get it from like Walmart, yeah, grocery store, and I'm just like it ain't the same.
SPEAKER_00Cause it's so simple. You just need a ketchup and mayo and just the breading and the patty, and when you ate it, it's like perfection. But now you're just like, this shit sucks. Honestly, even the McChickens at McDonald's was not even as good as those chicken patties.
ANTHONYSo I, me and my cousins went through a phase in the late 90s, maybe early 2000s. Burger King, the original chicken sandwich. Uh-huh. They used to always constantly have those on sale. It was like two for five. Yeah, yeah. So we'd go through the drive-thru and go to Burger King, and we'd always get those.
SPEAKER_00That's my dad and my mom's favorite.
ANTHONYMa girl, same.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYBut I just had one the other day for the first time.
SPEAKER_00It does not taste the same. Nope. Like the crunch level of it is not there.
ANTHONYIt's like soggy.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Yep. And I think like just the bread itself is not as like like puffy and like moist. I don't I wouldn't say moist, but like the the thickness of the bun is not there. It's like super flat.
ANTHONYIt is. Yeah. Yes.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Such fatties.
ANTHONYI know. We could literally have every episode talking about food. Yeah, we could. We could talk for about food for hours.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like my high school fries were so good though. There's they had like a specific season for the fries. And I try to find it like throughout the years, but can't find it. Yeah.
ANTHONYSo it's probably pleasoning.
SPEAKER_00What is pleasing? That sounds like oh, that sounds like poison.
ANTHONYLook for it at the store next time you go if you're looking at the seasonings.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Pleasoning?
ANTHONYYeah, pleasoning. It's really good. I love using that stuff.
SPEAKER_00I just remember the there was like there was there was like red powder on it. So I'm pretty sure it was like some kind of paprika or something. Yeah. But it was good. I was like, yeah.
Lunchroom Hierarchy And School Food
ANTHONYDid you ever have anybody like in the lunchroom, like, did people ever like barter and like try to negotiate? Like, hey, I'll give you my fries if you give me your ice cream.
SPEAKER_00I was no, but I was just gonna bring up a shout out to one of my one of my best high school friends. And I don't know if you guys remember, but I've talked about in previous episodes where like in in high school, like we couldn't afford the free lunch, right? So some days I would starve. I don't know if you remember that.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, some days I would like not eat anything until I got home. But I did have a friend. His name was Shivah. Hey Shiv. We used to call him Chester, but I don't know if he listens. But if he ever does, I just want to say thank you to him because he always shared his lunch with me. Oh yeah. So I think in high school I was way too fat to share my favorite lunch with me. No, I felt bad. I will be honest, I felt bad because it's just like he shared it with me like every day. But then I all of a sudden felt like I didn't like as a kid, I didn't realize it. But now when I grew up, like now that I'm older, I kind of expected it from him, which is kind of fucked up. You know what I mean?
ANTHONYYou expected him to share his food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYWhy?
SPEAKER_00Well, I didn't expect it to I didn't like I didn't fully expect it, but like sometimes like I don't know how to say it. Like I don't know how to say it. It's not that I expected it, but I low-key did, but then I felt bad. But then I was also like, oh, well, he's okay sharing it with me. You know what I mean? I don't know if you know what I would mean, but I don't know what you mean. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
ANTHONYBut anyways, is it that you just got used to him sharing that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYYeah. So that yeah, so that's fair. So you just got used to it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYThat it became an expectation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but then at the same time Like I felt bad about having an expectation because obviously it's not my lunch. But then there were times where I didn't eat because I did feel bad, or there were times where like he'd offer and I'd be like, no, I'm good, you know? Because I was like, okay, I shouldn't be doing that. But regardless, like, you know, he shared his lunch with me, and I was always really thankful for that. So yeah, and he was one of my best friends in high school.
ANTHONYSo And you don't talk to him anymore?
SPEAKER_00We are in contact still, but we don't like talk all the time. Yeah.
ANTHONYWell, Shiv, I just wanna It's Shiva. Oh, you said Shiv earlier.
SPEAKER_00I know, but it's Shiva or Shiv.
ANTHONYI'm not his friend, so I can't call him Shiv. I got it. His friends call him Shiv. Shiva.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYThank you for being such a nice student and sharing your food to somebody who didn't have any.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was really nice.
ANTHONYThat is really nice. Yeah. Not a lot of kids do that nowadays.
SPEAKER_00No. Never.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I think for a moment people thought that we were an item. Because we were really close.
ANTHONYDid you want to be an item?
SPEAKER_00No.
ANTHONYLet's let the cat out of it. Let's let's unravel these feelings and these emotions.
SPEAKER_00No.
ANTHONYDid he?
SPEAKER_00No. Because he liked it other girls in high school. And I would kind of be like his wingman. I'd be like, dude, just go do it. Like, just go ask her, you know? But we did.
ANTHONYAnd there was no part of you that was like, he's attractive. I could see myself.
SPEAKER_00No, because I was always talking to other people.
ANTHONYOh.
SPEAKER_00So yeah.
ANTHONYBecause he was a hoe.
unknownYeah.
ANTHONYOnce upon a time, not long ago, she was a hoe.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, very good. But I will say though, I think something that kind of changed our dynamic, I feel like in our friendship, which this has nothing related to what we're talking about now, but um we watched two girls in a cup together.
ANTHONYDone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYDone.
SPEAKER_00And like after that, we just were like, where do we go from here?
ANTHONYThat's so gross. Speaking of fucked up kids.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYI do not encourage any listener to go and look this up.
SPEAKER_00I don't even think it's online anymore.
ANTHONYOh, I'm sure you could find it. You think so? I'm sure you could find it. Oh, but yeah, it was. Or you can find two new idiots recreating it for. Or yeah.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, so we were like looking up, we I think I went to his house because we had to do like either a psychology project or something. I don't remember. We were doing a project, and then I was asking him, I'm like, have you seen like the two girls in a cup thing? Or I think there was like there was another video of a guy in a hammer or whatever.
ANTHONYThere was two, two more. The guy in the hammer or the guy and the horse.
SPEAKER_00I think it's the guy in the hammer. It has something to do with the nail, if I remember correctly, or a hammer, whatever. But we for sure I know that it was two girls in a cup, and I had asked him like if he's seen it, and I was like, we should wash it together because I don't know what it's about. It was fucking disgusting. I like got scarred from that video.
ANTHONYThat's disgusting. It's so gross.
SPEAKER_00It's so gross. Yeah. And so then I was just like, yeah, that was not a good idea. And then I think low-key, like our our like our friendship wasn't weird or anything, but we were just like, this is a secret between you and I, and you and I only for the rest of our lives. Cause this shit was like fucked up as hell.
ANTHONYAnd now it's a secret with all of our problems.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes.
ANTHONYOur home unity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was my first time, I think that day, my first time eating a vegetarian pizza, too. So so it kind of relates to what we're talking about.
ANTHONYSuch a gross correlation to address.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYYeah, you're right though. There were like three videos that were like going around that were really popular. There was the two girls one cup.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYI remember there was it was like a guy on a horse or something like that. And then there was one more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I just saw the two girls in a cup. That shit was nasty. Did you watch any of those videos?
ANTHONYI did.
SPEAKER_00You did?
ANTHONYI did.
SPEAKER_00You got curious too.
ANTHONYI did. I got curious with the two girls one cub because everybody at school is like talking about it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd I was like, hmm. I wanted to be included. Yeah. Then I made that mistake.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Don't do it.
ANTHONYDon't look up the guy in a horse either.
SPEAKER_00Don't do it. Was it the man in an ice pick?
ANTHONYThe one that I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYNo, it was literally a guy getting fucked by a horse.
SPEAKER_00Ew. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00You watched that too? I didn't watch the whole thing. How does that even happen? Aren't horse's dick like huge?
ANTHONYThat's what made the video.
SPEAKER_00Oh. That's all gross. How do you do that though?
ANTHONYI don't even want to talk about it. Go watch Beestiality Porn if you want to know.
SPEAKER_00How do you do that? How do you force a horse to do that? I want to know now. You're gonna explain it to us all.
ANTHONYWell, I'm not gonna explain it.
SPEAKER_00I mean Like do they tie the horse up? Like, how do they force a horse to do that? Because like they got they're on four legs, aren't they?
ANTHONYIf memory serves me right, the guy was like under the horse.
SPEAKER_00What the fuck? That's nasty.
ANTHONYDownward dog type position.
SPEAKER_00That's a real quick fucking no to me. Ugh, I feel sick.
ANTHONYOkay. Anybody out there who this yeah, we're gonna get off the fat. But I'm just gonna say anybody out there who was like into bestiality porn or like into that, you're a fucking disgusting human being.
SPEAKER_00That's like And that's how I see it. That's animal abuse.
ANTHONYYeah. Yeah. That's gross.
SPEAKER_00That's horrible. Okay. Anyways.
ANTHONYGod.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, there's one more that I wanted to talk about.
ANTHONYOkay.
SPEAKER_00When you get picked last and you take it personally, like, do you feel like that affects you?
ANTHONYOr that like I think it does affect kids and their personality, their development and growing.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYI definitely was one that was picked last quite frequently. And I don't, I I mean, I took it personally, but I also don't blame them. I was like, I was probably one of the fattest kids in my class. No, you weren't. No, I was. So it was like I I didn't blame them for like not wanting me on, you know, their team or whatever. But the frustrating part about that is it's one of those situations, and I think where it hurts kids is the fact that they can't feel like they're being included or involved.
SPEAKER_00And the thing is like they're not accepted.
ANTHONYYeah. And it's like the thing is, is so if you're in gym class and they're like, all right, Nolly and Anthony, you're team captains, you have to pick your team.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYEverybody has to get picked. So it's like what it does more harm to save somebody you don't want to pick for last than it would to just be like just pick them. Because again, everybody has to be picked, everybody has to be put on a team.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYSo it's it's like if it was like between you and me, it's like, well, I don't want them. You don't want them. Yeah. One of us has to like just bite the bullet.
SPEAKER_00Just take it. I think that also causes anxiety because pe kids are like, oh, like what if I don't get picked? Or what if I get picked last?
ANTHONYLike, you know, it's embed and then it's embarrassing. And it's embarrassing. And then they they do kids. I mean, I don't know about your school, but like it they do make a deal about being picked last. They're like you're they're not gonna let that person who was picked last live it down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYSo yeah, I do agree with that, that it causes anxiety and it it is hurtful for kids.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that sucks. But I mean, I can relate and also not relate. I don't know. Because again, I was really competitive. So I think people in my gym class knew that I was competitive.
ANTHONYWere you ever picked last?
SPEAKER_00I don't think so. But I was like close to being last. Yeah, so once again, we are at Anthony's and he has little fur friends. So if y'all hear it in the background, it's just who let the dogs out.
ANTHONYRichard.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah. It's it it sucks though. Sometimes when you get picked last, you're just kind of like, again, it's that thing like, what's wrong with me? Like, why can't I get picked? Yeah. That's where you that's where the era of the pick me girl and the pick me boy starts, where they they do shit for attention and you know, I feel like maybe that's where it starts. I don't know.
ANTHONYYou know, that very actually well could be.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd that does that, I mean, that does make sense. That is a little illuminating now that I think about it, because it's like, I mean, for me, it was always the popular kids that are that were like the captains and shit like that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I will say this I will say this. I don't give a fuck if you're a gym teacher, but there there is always favoritism. Like the gym teacher, you know who 100%.
ANTHONYSo I hated my gym teacher.
SPEAKER_00Did you?
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Damn. Yeah. I don't know. I think my gym teachers were fine.
ANTHONYDid you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYDidn't you say that you had a woman?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I had two teacher.
ANTHONYOh, yeah, because I gave you shit about her being a lesbian.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I had two. Well, like in high school, my high school gym teacher. I know she had favorites because obviously I think she was like she was like captain of the she was like the volleyball captain or whatever. I don't fucking know.
ANTHONYAll teachers, gym teachers are not being singled out. All teachers have their favorites.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And you could tell.
ANTHONYAnd I'm just bitter because I was never any of my teachers' favorites.
SPEAKER_00That's okay, Boo. You're my favorite.
ANTHONYThank you.
SPEAKER_00Although I'm not your gym teacher.
ANTHONYThank goodness for that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYTry to get me to run a mile.
SPEAKER_00No, I'd be like, you want to go to the gym that ends with Cadonald's?
ANTHONYGym Cadonald's.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. McDonald's.
ANTHONYI gotcha. Yeah. I gotcha.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
ANTHONYNormally when somebody asks me if I want to go to the gym, I say, whose gym?
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00That's a good one.
ANTHONYYeah. Alright. So recess was a battlefield. Our lunch boxes were political statements, apparently.
SPEAKER_00But now it's time to take the chaos home, where bedtime routines were suspicious and family game night ended in tears.
ANTHONYThis next segment, home life, chaos, cartoons, and conspiracies. We're gonna talk about iconic and low-key weird moments that shaped us inside our childhood homes. Nolly?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYWhat did you have for us?
SPEAKER_00So I wanted to talk about the one cousin who was always doing too much. The one with the drama, the one with like the chaos, like the one that's always stirring shit up. Did you have one like that?
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Or did you have multiple people like that?
ANTHONYI only have one that's sticking out in my mind, and he was kind of a little asshole.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYI'm gonna call him out right now.
SPEAKER_00Is it the tall one?
NALEENo.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
NALEENo. I feel bad calling him out.
ANTHONYSay what you're just knowing everything we know now.
SPEAKER_00Say what you're just my cousin Adam.
ANTHONYHe was he was kind of a little dick.
SPEAKER_00Is Adam cute?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. Damn, you really did call him out.
ANTHONYNo.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYUh he was kind of a little asshole, and he was like when we were when we were kids, because he was one of my like immediate cousins, like me and my cousins were there was the group the core group of us that we always you know spent weekends, holidays, and like everything. He was just very mischievous. Actually, I think maybe I maybe I don't want to throw him under the bus like this, but I think I've told you a story about him before. So this is my cousin that basically shout out a basketball.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYPick it up.
SPEAKER_00You have poop stories.
ANTHONYYeah. Okay. Let's go see.
SPEAKER_00Spoopy Adam pants. Should I not call him that? Oops.
SPEAKER_03No, that's fine. He definitely doesn't listen.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYBut no, he was he was definitely a little asshole.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYWhen we were kids. I mean, I don't know. I don't like literally, I don't even know how what else to say about it.
SPEAKER_00He was just a little douchebag.
Being Picked Last And Belonging
ANTHONYYeah, he was just a little preck and like always like causing trouble. And like it was anything that, like, and granted, I feel like a lot of people do this, but like, if he was told not to do something, he did it. 100%.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he was a little rebel.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYYeah. And I remember one time we were at his house in Arizona, and my uncle kicked us out of the house because he used to he used to do that all the time. And like, kick us out of the house, go do something outside, go play outside. And I we were in the garage for some reason. And they had these little like two by four like blocks of wood for some reason. And somehow they found a black widow spider.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYAnd they were like dropping the blocks in like a triangle around the spider and like trying to block it in.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, that's so mean.
ANTHONYIt's mean, but then I'm thinking, that's a black fucking widow spider dude. Play with the daddy long legs. I don't give a shit. A black fucking widow?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. They ask in a dad.
ANTHONYYeah. I I remember I took one of the blocks and I literally I just killed the black widow.
SPEAKER_00Oh, dude, that's even worse. You're like, bat bitch, boom.
ANTHONYWell, I was like, I'm not playing with this thing. I don't know if they can jump.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Ooh, I hate too.
ANTHONYCan you imagine if a black widow jumped at you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we'd all be dead.
ANTHONYLike for real.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we'd all be dead.
ANTHONYSo I was like, I don't got time for this.
SPEAKER_00We got halfway to Shonda.
ANTHONYBut he always had like the rebel ideas. There was another time that my uncle like kicked us out, and their bedroom had a sliding door, and we wanted to play video games. It's in Arizona, it's in the desert. It was like 90s, I'm sure. What? And I remember he kicked us out and we walked out and we closed the bedroom door behind us. And we went outside and we were playing for a little bit. And then we like, like Inspector Gadget, like got against the wall of the house and like was sliding. And we slid to the sc we made our way to the screen door. Quietly opened the screen door and went inside and muted the TV and started playing video games again.
SPEAKER_00Were they humping?
ANTHONYWhat?
SPEAKER_00Were they humping? Who?
ANTHONYMy uncle?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYNo, no. He just wants us to go play outside.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I thought something scandalous was gonna happen. No. Oh, okay.
ANTHONYHe just wanted us out of the fucking house. And then we got caught. I don't know. My cousin Joseph got us caught.
SPEAKER_00What a little douchebag. What a little D-bag. I know.
ANTHONYBut anyway, what about you?
SPEAKER_00I did have some cousins who like were kind of like, I don't know, they always had drama. But I don't know. Like, I have nothing against my cousins. It's whatever. But I wasn't really close with my cousins. Like when we were little, yeah, we were close. But I think like my mom and my dad, like my dad's siblings, which is my aunt and my uncle's or my uncles, or there's a particular uncle, but they have there's like a lot of drama. So then they didn't really like us. Like I think I said in the pod earlier, like our family was kind of like the black sheep.
ANTHONYYeah. I remember you did say that.
SPEAKER_00And my mom and my dad were really sheltered, so they didn't really like when we hung out, like they were really strict.
ANTHONYBut your parents were?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, they're still strict. Like we're 40 years old and they still have a fucking curfew on us. Well, not me, but on my sisters and them.
ANTHONYSeriously?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're really strict.
ANTHONYBut your sister's living at home with them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYOkay. Well, but they're adults. In all fairness, if you're living under my house, you're living under my rules.
SPEAKER_00Well that's they live with my sister. It's not their house. They live with her.
ANTHONYOh, well, then that changes things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I don't know. We're all also we're also really obedient. I think that's our issue. So we still listen to them. But it's just kind of like But that's a good thing. Uh is it?
ANTHONYIt is, because now like nowadays, I don't feel like a lot of kids are obedient. And a lot of kids are like rude.
SPEAKER_00But we're 40 years old, 30, 40 years old. Like we don't need to like have that in the case. Well, yeah.
ANTHONYI mean, at this point you probably should draw some boundaries. But I mean, at the time to have kids that were obedient.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But um I know that like my my auntie, her daughter, or my cousin, I guess. I know she had a lot of drama, like with everybody. I don't know.
ANTHONYYou don't know what the drama was?
SPEAKER_00No. I think it was just a lot of I don't know, it was just a lot of drama. I don't really remember because I was a little kid. But yeah. I don't know. I don't have a lot of experiences, I guess, with my cousin. The only ones were like I did have good memories, like we would play like house and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like we would go to my aunt's house because we I only have one aunt from my dad's side. And we grew up with them with my cousins, but then like we don't have we didn't have anybody who was like really naughty. I guess the only one who was really naughty was my brother.
ANTHONYSo maybe he's a bad younger brother or my older brother. Older brother. Okay.
SPEAKER_00My second older older brother. Like he was a he was I wouldn't say he was a bad kid, but he definitely was like not a good seed when he was younger. Why?
ANTHONYWhat what did you do? Give us examples.
Home Life, Cousins, And Household Chaos
SPEAKER_00I think he hung out like kind of with the wrong crowd. And like there was a moment where he like he wasn't into like hardcore drugs, but he like smoked weed and stuff like that. And at that time, like my dad and them didn't like that. So he low-key like got kicked out of the house, and my dad like beat his ass pretty bad.
ANTHONYReally?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, it's gonna sound like child abuse, but it's more of like discipline. Like, you know what we we've talked about this before? Like, yeah, I'm a firm believer in discipline. Discipline, then it compared to now, like people consider it like child abuse, whatever. Do with what you will as your child. Yeah, and so then and yeah, I wouldn't say that Pali was a bad seed, but she was pretty like rebellious to I could totally see her being like a wild child. Pali was definitely a wild child, yeah. She's definitely like calmed down, but that's right, Polly. I'm calling you out.
SPEAKER_03Tell me all the stories.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but yeah, but you know, they've turned their lives around.
ANTHONYAnd well, I feel like that's typical for any person, any teenager, any kid. We all go through phases.
SPEAKER_00Some people don't.
ANTHONYSo you don't think so?
SPEAKER_00No.
NALEEReally?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, some people don't go through phases. They're stuck in their childish ways. So but yeah.
NALEEGotcha.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But yeah, that's all I have to say. I and maybe that's why we're the black sheep family.
ANTHONYBut So you feel your whole family was a b like was a black sheep?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYLike your immediate with your mom, your dad, your brothers.
SPEAKER_00We are just all my other cousins, they all get along except for us.
ANTHONYYeah. Yeah. So I can relate to that because I've always felt like I've never felt fully 100% like welcomed in my family.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. We weren't really accepted because the black sheep. Like, I think I've mentioned this before. Like my siblings and us, well, like specifically my sisters and us, we're a little bit bigger and thick, I should say. And so then a lot of my other cousins, they were skinny and thin and pretty. So, like, when we were around, like our aunts and uncles would always be. Be like, oh, like why are you guys so big? Blah blah blah blah, and stuff like that. So I think it kind of pushed us out. That's why we were just kind of like, Oh, I'd rather just not go, because if we do, we get compared. You know what I mean? It is very sad, yeah. But yeah, so to us, I think it was more of like the reason why we didn't get close is because again, we weren't really accepted for who we were, you know? But that's besides the point. Childhood trauma, all that shit. But yeah.
ANTHONYI'm sorry, that's unfortunate that your family was like that though, because I will say that it's not just our family.
SPEAKER_00I think it's kinda like I don't know if it's an Asian thing, but I will say that I'm gonna agree to disagree, or I'm gonna like say an unpopular opinion. I think that's probably the proper way to say it. Is that Asian culture, they are obsessed with beauty. Like if you're not pretty, then like you get looked down upon. Like, for example, like the Korean, the Korean industry or Korean beauty industry. Like if you're not skinny and pretty, then you kind of get looked up down upon. But again, I think that's like an Asian culture in general because we get sexualized so much.
ANTHONYI'm gonna disagree with that only because that's the same thing for like white women, yeah, colored women. It's like you gotta be skinny and beautiful for when it comes to women.
SPEAKER_01That's true.
ANTHONYAnd I will give you that I do believe that like Asian women are more fetishized.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYSo I mean I'll give that to you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYSo it's still, it's just still, it's just unfortunate when it's your own family because everybody always pleads this argument that it's family and like they'll always accept you for who we are. They're gonna love you no matter what. And they're gonna be Yeah. Blood is thicker than water.
SPEAKER_00Bitch bah.
ANTHONYNo, sorry.
SPEAKER_00No, sweetie, no.
ANTHONYI'm I'm much more of a believer in like supporting and like picking like your chosen family.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You earn respect. Yeah, it's not given. That's me.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00At this point.
ANTHONYAnd it's almost like it's expected when it's like just because it's family, you're expected to do things a certain way. Yeah. Live your life a certain way.
SPEAKER_00It sucks.
ANTHONYIt does suck. That's family.
SPEAKER_00That's family.
ANTHONYThat's right, Jesus.
SPEAKER_00Jesus. What did you have?
ANTHONYWell, I had wanted to talk about nicknames.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYNicknames that may not have been very pleasant. Pleasant as a child. Did you did you have any?
SPEAKER_00I think my mom had a name for me. But I forgot what it was. But like when I was younger, I was really skinny. I know it's hard to believe, but I was Yeah. I was really skinny when I was little. And I forgot what she called me.
NALEEBut Rolly Poly.
SPEAKER_00I think it was I think the translation would be I could be wrong. I think my siblings know this. But I think it was like the translation would be like lizard, because I was skinny. And I was very like, eh, scormy. So what's the I don't even I don't remember. I don't remember. I know what it is, but I don't know if that's the exact thing, so I'm not gonna say it.
ANTHONYOkay.
SPEAKER_00But I did have nicknames though.
ANTHONYYeah. Yeah. Share them.
SPEAKER_00So my sister still calls me this. Sal calls me Nene.
ANTHONYWhat's that mean?
SPEAKER_00Just I don't know. Just Nene. Like tiny.
ANTHONYOh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
NALEEBecause you're the baby.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Or they would call me, which is also tiny.
unknownYeah.
ANTHONYIt's mind-blowing.
SPEAKER_00Why? Because I ain't tiny?
ANTHONYTwo different ways of saying no, two different ways of saying the exact same thing, and it's like me or Nene.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So yeah. It just blows my mind. Yeah, she still calls me that. She has asked, Okay bye Nene.
ANTHONYWhat are what about any of your friends? Did any of your friends give you nicknames?
SPEAKER_00No. But I had my own nickname. My street name.
ANTHONYGave herself a nickname. Laquita?
SPEAKER_00No, it was Happy. That sounds really stupid. I'm a dwarf now. I had that nickname for a while.
ANTHONYI'm not called Jenna.
SPEAKER_00What?
unknownNothing.
SPEAKER_00You're gonna call Jenna?
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Why? Yeah, you bitch.
NALEEWhat about you? I did. I had a lot of nicknames in like middle school and high school.
ANTHONYThey used to call me Ace at one point.
SPEAKER_01Why?
ANTHONYI don't know. That was a very good question.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYSome of the nicknames I don't really even have any reason for.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYFuzzy.
SPEAKER_00Interesting.
ANTHONYUm, I think that was a mix of when I was fat and in middle school and high school, like I went through a period where I like only wore hoodies.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYAnd like oversized hoodies to like try and hide my fatness by making myself look bigger. But I think my hoodies, I think there was one that was like fuzzy.
SPEAKER_00Fuzzy. Oh, okay.
ANTHONYAnd then also, I know you'd find this hard to believe, but I had hair.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd so my hair, they would call me fuzzy. You had beautiful hair. I did have beautiful hair. Not still bitter about that. Or the person I work for who decided to not give me my hair extensions.
SPEAKER_00Oh, baby, it's coming. Wait till we win that lottery.
ANTHONYNone of us got tickets this month.
SPEAKER_00Whose fault is that?
ANTHONYAll of ours.
SPEAKER_00This month? What is this?
ANTHONYNovember.
SPEAKER_00Well, my week is still coming up.
ANTHONYYeah, your week is still coming up.
SPEAKER_00Jenna.
ANTHONYYou mean Heather?
SPEAKER_00Heather, you out, boo.
ANTHONYShe's been busy. She's been having a lot of stuff go on in her life too, yeah. And I'm just like, I get it. And I keep meaning to go and buy mine, and I just haven't. So I'll do it this week. Whatever, I don't care. But yeah, so Heather.
SPEAKER_00Not Jenna, sorry.
ANTHONYOne nickname that I had that I really didn't like as a kid was they used to call me Velcro.
SPEAKER_00Why?
ANTHONYI don't remember who it was. Somebody said that my hair felt like Velcro, which is that a compliment? No, it was supposed to, it was meant as an insult.
SPEAKER_00Oh, what a bitch. Who said that to you?
ANTHONYI don't remember.
SPEAKER_00Listen here, you little bitch.
ANTHONYIt didn't last very that one didn't stick very long, thankfully. My aunt and uncle always call me dude. We've had this conversation.
SPEAKER_01Dude.
ANTHONYSo that's uh my uncle still calls me dude.
SPEAKER_01Okay. What else?
SPEAKER_03Those are all of my nicknames.
ANTHONYI've been called whore. I don't know if that's a nickname or not, or just a term of endearment.
SPEAKER_00Actually, I'm gonna call you that from now on.
ANTHONYWhore.
SPEAKER_00Hey whore.
ANTHONYI'd prefer if you just called me hoe.
SPEAKER_00Or that too.
ANTHONYYeah. I like being a hoe.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we know you like being a hoe.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, another one that my brother used to call me was nye. Yeah, and it's also tiny.
ANTHONYOkay, so now we have three different ways of saying tiny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYThat just blows my mind.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYThat just complicates language even more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The Moan language is complicated. Don't even worry about it.
ANTHONYAll language is complicated.
SPEAKER_00That too.
unknownOkay.
ANTHONYOkay, can I share? Speaking of language, I have to s I have to get this off my chest.
SPEAKER_00Get it off your chest, boo.
ANTHONYSo I was on TikTok yesterday and I came across a video of a woman going off on a woman who was in her car on her phone speaking Spanish to somebody. And this fucking Karen just came up and started going off on the woman about speaking Spanish.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYAnd she said something. Okay, this actually ties into our whole trip back into high school and childhood days. So this fucking Karen said to this woman, You're in America. Like speak I hate that. Speak American. If you're gonna come to our country, speak English.
SPEAKER_00This ain't your country, bitch.
ANTHONYIt's not your country. But I so badly wanted to, all I could think of was this bitch, you know, she probably goes to Mexico for her vacation. Yep. You know, she's not going to Mexico and speaking Spanish.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd why is it that as Americans, we think that we're so entitled? And the reason that how I'm tying this back into like high school, I remember in it was either Spanish one or Spanish two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, why have Spanish in schools? Why it ha why it have?
SPEAKER_02Why it why we have why why we don't have Chinese?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but why is Spanish one of the main learning languages in high school when you guys don't want people speaking Spanish? Like make it fucking make sense. You know what I mean?
ANTHONYAnyways, you know, I do, but I think that that's the main one that's pushed because I mean that's pretty much a close second for most spoken language in in our country. And then with us being so close to Mexico. But I remember, and I'm gonna call him out, and I have no shame for this.
SPEAKER_00Call him out.
ANTHONYI remember so vividly Troy Gilbertson making a big issue in our Spanish class. Like, why do I gotta learn Spanish? If they're coming to America, they bet they should speak English.
NALEEAnd it's like okay. One, why are you here?
ANTHONYLike if you don't want to learn Spanish, like why'd you take this class? And then two, why is it that we do think that because people come here that they should speak English? And not even so much about people most people who do come here can't speak English. Yeah, they speak multiple languages, they're bilingual or trilingual. Like just because you're the fucking idiot who can't learn the difference between los, los, la, el, yeah, like you can't figure your what are they conjugates?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I'm laughing because of our Uber drive. That's all.
ANTHONYI know Uber. I know I know Uber. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But I'm just saying, like it's because they're ignorant. That's it. Like people are so fucking it fucking it. People are so fucking ignorant.
ANTHONYFucking ignorant.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That triggers me. Because I ever for me.
ANTHONYAnd it's like going back to the TikTok video, like she was in her car having a conversation on her phone. Mind your own fucking business.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So stupid.
ANTHONYSo anyway, yeah, uh Velcro wasn't one of my nicknames. Fuzzy.
SPEAKER_00Fuzzy.
ANTHONYUgh, that girl that I moved to California with. She used to call me poopy.
SPEAKER_00Poopy?
ANTHONYWe were poopy and doopy. Poopy and doopy? Or something like that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Ugh.
ANTHONYI know.
SPEAKER_00Why poopy?
ANTHONYNow it's all like Sha Poopy? Now it's all red flags. Every time I like You think about it? Think about it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Okay.
unknownUm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Alright. Well, now that we revisited the trauma of being called embarrassing childhood nicknames, let's wrap things up with a little reflection.
ANTHONYAKA realizing that despite the chaos, our childhoods gave us some pretty iconic core memories. A few unresolved issues as well.
SPEAKER_00All right, so segment three is about core memories that still live rent-free. I know this one's gonna be a long one because we are gonna have a lot to talk about. So buckle the fuck up. For mine, I wanted to talk about family road trips that were actually psychological experiments.
ANTHONYOkay. I'm interested.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So I think I've talked about this. We we probably talked about it in one of our previous episodes for a fact, but did you like when you guys had like road trips, did you guys ever like argue or was it moments were there were road trips core memories of like good times?
ANTHONYMy core memories of road trips are all good times. It was normally like me, my grandma, and my aunt. There were a few times that like my cousins would come with me.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYWe didn't really argue, but we did have those moments where it was moments of disagreement.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYThat would get my grandma a little riled up, but never anything serious that I can recall.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
Core Memories: Road Trips And Glow Sticks
ANTHONYAs far as and for me, some of my core memories, they all obviously include our road trips to Vegas. One thing that really stands out to me is that I would always get sick in the car. And it wasn't like it wasn't what's the word, like motion sickness or car sickness. It wasn't that.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
ANTHONYI would literally just get like physically like sweats and hot, nauseous.
SPEAKER_01I wonder why.
ANTHONYYeah, I was only in the car, and then like once we got there, I'd I'd be fine.
SPEAKER_00Weirdo.
ANTHONYFor real.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYBut I remember I would sleep in the backseat and play video games the entire time. And a a part of that core memory is that we when we would stop at a like rest area.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYSo my grandma could rest, because this was when I was a kid. I couldn't drive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYMy aunt had epilepsy. She couldn't drive, so my grandma did all of the driving.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYSo we would stop so that she would rest. Well, here I've been sleeping the entire time. So I'm like, I'm awake.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd of course I'm a kid and I can't get out and go like do stuff. Do stuff at the rest area. Not that there was like most of them didn't have anything to do, but yeah. So it was like I had to sit in the car.
SPEAKER_00You must have been such a bored little kid.
ANTHONYIn the car?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYYeah, probably at well, I mean, I had my video games, so that tied me over.
SPEAKER_00Um what about you? Yeah, for me, like I know I talked about like the annual like North Dakota fishing trips and stuff like that, but I uh for me, my core memories of road trips were always with my guy cousins because my dad's oldest brother, his kids are low-key kind of aligned with my parents too. So all of our kids are kind of like in the same age range. So me and my sister Mila were the two younger ones. So they my mom and my dad would always take us, and then my uncle, he would always take his two younger boys. And so then I remember this one time we were driving to go visit this auntie in like Iowa, and we were going at night, and so then we had stopped at a gas station, and um we saw that there were these, you know, those glow in the dark sticks to break it. And so then what we did was at this time we drove in my uncle's suburban, and so the kids we were in the back, which now that I think of it probably wasn't the best idea, or maybe not, I don't know. But at that time, seatbelts weren't like a super big issue because I know like what? Yeah, because we were, I think we were like maybe nine, 10-ish, but we were driving at night, and so then, you know, when we use a glow-up sticks, it glows. And so then at that time, you know, my parents, they were all in the front, they were talking, and then we were sitting in the back of the suburban, and they had put the seat down in the back so we could just kind of sit and like sleep or whatever on our way there. And so we had covered the back seat with a blanket, and then we were like underneath it, and we were like doing little raves and stuff like that. It was so fun. Like that was like a core memory for me. And so then I think every time we were all together when we were going on road trips, we always had to buy glow sticks.
ANTHONYOh, really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we could do that, yeah. And we would just be like that in the background. It was so fun, now that I think of it. But yeah.
ANTHONYNow I wish I would have done that with my cousins.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But again, like me, I think I think this is still true too, is where like I have more like like when I was single, I had more guy friends than I had girlfriends. I don't know if if that's a thing. I don't know why that is, but I got along more with my guy cousins than my girl cousins too.
ANTHONYI okay, I feel like that is very common.
SPEAKER_00Is it?
ANTHONYI feel like it is.
unknownYeah.
ANTHONYI mean, I could be wrong.
SPEAKER_00But the thing too is though I used to be wingmans for my cousins though. Like when we go to the New Year's and stuff, and they wanted to hit on a girl and then have the guts to go hit on them. I would be like, which one you like? I'll go ask the number for you.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00And so then when we did that, I would be like, oh hey, like, you know, my cousin over there, he's single, and you know, he wanted to know if you you're single, like, can I get your number and give it to him? And that's like super old fashioned, but excuse me. But yeah, so I think that's also one reason why that's one reason why like I get along with my guy cousins. And I was also a really big tomboy. Like, I didn't, to be honest, I didn't opposites. What?
ANTHONYI said we were opposites.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I didn't like hit like the glow up or like the girl maturity because I was also a late bloomer to like put makeup on and stuff like that. Like I didn't even do that until like maybe sophomore almost junior year.
ANTHONYOh wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I look like trash majority of the five.
ANTHONYI find I highly doubt that.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, I looked like trash, but I doubt that. Yeah, and so then yeah, I don't know. Like, I feel like we uh I always got along with my guy cousins, but that's definitely a core memory for me.
NALEEOkay, so you brought up something for me that I want to visit, which is a little drastically off topic. Okay, excuse me.
ANTHONYSo you were a tomboy, you got along with your guy friends, I was the opposite. I was or guy cousins, I'm sorry. I was the opposite. I was obviously very like feminine, like being raised by my grandma, no masculine or man figure in my life consistently, uh to uh at least. So I want your opinion on this. So one thing that I still can't seem to wrap my head head around. So I had a lot of girlfriends in middle school, high school.
NALEEIt never failed that if I was friends with a girl, her boyfriend was jealous of me stealing her from him. And the kicker was they always thought I was gay.
SPEAKER_00I don't understand that.
ANTHONYI could never wrap my mind around that. So you think I'm gay, but you think that I'm going to sleep with or that I'm going to steal your girlfriend from you. I think make it make fun of it.
SPEAKER_00I think with that, and this is just me totally assuming shit, making shit up in my head.
ANTHONYDr. Nolly's in the house.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But I think the reason why is because guys they get insecure when other guys are close with their girlfriends.
ANTHONYLike they're so insecure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Because we talk about things that they don't talk about. So it's I feel like it's a control thing because they don't they don't know what your cousin is saying to you. And in order for them What do you mean? Well, your girlfriends. Oh.
SPEAKER_03Like my girlfriends. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like they don't because obviously girlfriends, friends, they talk about stuff they don't tell their spouse or their partner sometimes. Because obviously that's a reason why I have you. I'm gonna rant about this other person. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think it has a thing to do with obviously insecurity issues. And because of that, like control of not knowing what you guys know between your yourselves. So then they project it as an oh, well, if she's telling you all these things, she must really fucking like you. And so then they get insecure about that. You know what I mean?
ANTHONYBut why are you worried that I'm gonna steal her?
SPEAKER_00Because they're insecure. They're stupid.
ANTHONYBut it doesn't make any sense. And that just goes to show that's how intelligent heterosexual men are.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Fucking stupid people. Men, I can't. But yeah, so again, that's just how Natalie sees it. But I feel like that's what it is.
ANTHONYI mean, that would make sense. I just can't I like I literally I can't tell you how many times that I like would have a friend who would tell me the other thing.
SPEAKER_00I'm just saying in a way where like, let's say if my significant other had like a gay friend who was a girl. I feel like although they're gay, there could still be some kind of like sexual tension. Like if it was cousin, it'd be different. But like if it's a friend, like maybe she could find you attractive, or like you could find her attract or she could find you attractive because you are feeding into her emotional like needs, or she could be like vulnerable with you.
ANTHONYOkay, that makes sense. Yeah. But I mean, at the same time, that sounds like the perfect opportunity for the boyfriend to step up his game and not be such a fucking douche.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. It's insecurity. That's all it is.
ANTHONYInsecure little men.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYWith their big old pickup trucks and their little dictionaries.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Read your little dictionary, sir. But okay. What did you want to talk about?
ANTHONYI mean, I could spend so much time on core memories that still live rent free in my head, especially if we're talking about like middle school and high school.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYSo many good memories.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love memories. So many good memories.
ANTHONYOne thing that I love is I've always been like a musical person.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Period.
ANTHONYSo I love music and I love relating it to certain things in my life or situations in my life. So I wanted to talk about that one song that just unlocks all the fucking memories. All the fucking memories.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
ANTHONYAre there any songs out there for you that like a thousand percent.
SPEAKER_00A thousand percent.
ANTHONYLet's go.
Songs That Unlock Whole Eras
SPEAKER_00I bet you one time. Okay, if I say these two, you're probably gonna be like, oh yeah, for sure. For me is Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie. Yeah.
ANTHONY2000s.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Such memories.
ANTHONYAnd Oh God, now I'm thinking about like Ug boots.
SPEAKER_00Yes. And what is it? Apple bottom jeans.
ANTHONYI was just gonna say the boots with the fur.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Yep. Those two songs are like high school, middle school, maybe middle school, beginning, end of middle school to high school. Yeah. Like whenever I listen to that, it's just like, oh, this is a banger. Okay. Yeah.
ANTHONYSome of the songs from back then were they're just so nostalgic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYI was, oh, I went to the dentist like a couple weeks ago. And my hygienist, my dental hygienist had given birth, so she hadn't been out. And she had just gotten back. So I was like excited to see her. Hadn't seen her in however long. And she was in there.
unknownOkay.
ANTHONYSide tangent. Why the fuck is it when every time you go to the dentist, they always want to talk to you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I know.
ANTHONYIt's like, hey, I'm like, no, I get it.
SPEAKER_00Like the girl, the every fucking time. She's like asking me this question that it's not yes or no. It's like long questions.
ANTHONYYeah. Do you have big plans for Thanksgiving?
SPEAKER_00I'm like, you got your hand halfway in my mouth. How do you expect me that too?
ANTHONYWhat do you Yeah?
SPEAKER_00You bring up a valid point.
ANTHONYYes. Every fucking time. So she's in my mouth.
SPEAKER_00Should be the opposite, but she's in my mouth, and I'm listening to the music, and I'm just like, huh.
ANTHONYNot even thinking anything of it. And then she randomly goes, she goes, So what do you think of the music today? I'm like, it was like old 90s country.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYWhen I started listening to music, I started on country.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
ANTHONYBut it was so nostalgic because they played a song by Tim McGraw.
NALEEGod, now I can't think of what song it was.
ANTHONYI can't think of what song it was, but I remember listening and I was like, Life is a highway.
NALEEIs that Tim McGraw?
ANTHONYNo.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit. Who's that?
NALEEIs that Aerosmith?
SPEAKER_00No, it's not Aerosmith. Life is a Highway.
SPEAKER_03Who is it?
SPEAKER_00It's not Tim McGraw.
ANTHONYIt's not Tim Maggie.
SPEAKER_00I know that for a fact.
ANTHONYI don't know where my phone is. I can't look it up. You look it up. But it was a Tim McGraw song, and I was like, I have not heard this since the 90s. And so that I mean that song just took me back.
SPEAKER_03But as far as other songs for me, there's Graduation Day by Vitamin C.
SPEAKER_00Oh. That song gives me such sad and like nostalgia. Bittersweet memories. Yes. It's like so sad.
ANTHONYStrawberry wine.
SPEAKER_00Rascal flats.
ANTHONYRascal flats.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYThat's it.
SPEAKER_00Strawberry wine. I didn't I didn't hear that song until recently.
ANTHONYReally?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYOh my god. Strawberry wine every single time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. One that also like gives me a lot of like memories instantly is Apologize by One Republic. It's too late. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I don't really relate to a lot of like newer stuff.
SPEAKER_00Is that newer stuff?
ANTHONYNo, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00Oh, just in general.
ANTHONYYeah. Just in general. Like newer music now. There's not like a lot of stuff that I enjoy. So it's like when people ask me, like, what do you listen to? I feel like such a loser because I'm like, well, I listen to either anything that's on Z100.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYOr, you know, I'm living my Taylor Swift era.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What other songs? Anything else for you?
SPEAKER_00So let's see. Unlocks an era. Like, I was kind of like, I wouldn't say I listen to hoe music, but I listen to a lot of like pop music or like, I don't know.
ANTHONYLike what artists?
SPEAKER_00Like Birthday Sex by Jeremiah. I don't know if you know that song. Like that song is like core memory for me, Mila, and Linda.
ANTHONYIt's Do you care to elaborate why birthday sex is a song that is a core memory for you and your sisters?
SPEAKER_00It was like the song of the summer. I think it was like 20, 20, 2008.
ANTHONYSing it.
SPEAKER_00Birthday sex, as I remember.
ANTHONYThat's birthdays.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your birthday, so you know you wanna ride up that song. Yeah.
NALEEOkay.
SPEAKER_00But I don't know. Like every time that song came on, it was just like, okay, this is what's up. This is a hot girl summer right now, you know?
ANTHONYSpeaking of hot girl summer, my friend Michelle, she loved her, she loved herself some pussycat dolls. When I grow up.
SPEAKER_00I love, yeah, that was my buttons. That was yes, that was my ringtone for the longest time. Like, you know how like when you call and it's ringing, it always played when I grow up.
SPEAKER_03I want to be famous.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So anybody I think who like knew me like during that era, anytime they heard that song, it reminded them of me.
ANTHONYOf you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd then um anytime I hear pussycat dolls, I think of my friend Michelle.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love pussycat dolls. And then what else? There's like a thousand songs. At this point, I'ma just tell you whatever song gives me core memories.
ANTHONYMy baby cousin used to be obsessed with that um blue, a da ba-dee-ba boo-da-ba-da boo-dee. I don't know if it was.
SPEAKER_00I know, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes.
ANTHONYAnd then he also loved Who Let the Dogs Out.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Okay.
ANTHONYI fucking hated that song.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and it's getting hot in here. So take up all your clothes. That song was so scandalous when it played on the bus, everybody was like, quiet. Because you know, it's kind of like dirty.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But yeah.
SPEAKER_03I am trying to think of the song that me and my friend used to.
NALEELet's see. Another song for me is What song is that?
SPEAKER_00Well, Rasco Flat, since we're talking about that, Life as a Highway was definitely core memory for me. But that's only because Do you want to share a core memory? From the song?
ANTHONYYeah, like what's the sort of thing?
SPEAKER_00Oh well, I was it I I only it was only a core memory for me because like my nephew, he was really into cars, and that was the car's theme song.
ANTHONYOh.
SPEAKER_00And like I just really liked that song.
ANTHONYSo when you say he was really into cars, do you mean like cars the movie or like the actual cars?
SPEAKER_00Cars the cartoon.
ANTHONYOkay.
SPEAKER_00Lightning McQueen. Caching, ka chow.
ANTHONYNever saw it.
SPEAKER_00Really?
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's cute. But yeah. Sorry.
ANTHONYTwo two things in life that I'm very grateful for and that I love every time it happens is like a song taking me back to a certain time or moment, or a smell.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
ANTHONYLike I just can't. Like I told you that, like the random times that I'll like smell my grandma's perfume or something. And I'm just like.
SPEAKER_00I think that's normal though.
ANTHONYOh, I think it's normal too. I just I'm so happy that I have that opportunity to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's kind of beautiful when you're like, Yeah. I remember that.
ANTHONYOr it takes you right back to that moment.
SPEAKER_00I think that's a very beautiful feeling. Yeah. Like as a human, I think that's such a beautiful feeling.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYI keep thinking now about like getting older, and I'm like, what if I were to develop like Alzheimer's or like dementia?
SPEAKER_00I kind of wish I had that right now for a hot minute.
ANTHONYDon't say that.
SPEAKER_00I need a little dementia in Alzheimer's right now.
SPEAKER_03But I couldn't imagine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's so unfortunate.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And also, songs also trigger like sad times in your life too. They do.
ANTHONYBut then that also allows for the opportunity to see what growth you've had.
SPEAKER_00A thousand percent.
ANTHONYAnd how you've dug yourself out of that particular situation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYLike I will every time, and I will probably change the channel nine times out of ten if I ever hear this song. But the stupid A what is it, ASPA or whatever commercials with Sarah McLaughlin, and it's like in the arms of an angel.
SPEAKER_00In the arms of an angel.
ANTHONYI will ball.
SPEAKER_00Why?
ANTHONYThat was a song that they played at my cousin's funeral. And that was the first funeral that I ever went to.
SPEAKER_00Oh, really?
ANTHONYMm-hmm. Damn.
SPEAKER_00That is legit core memory for you.
ANTHONYAnd then the other song was If Tomorrow Never Comes.
SPEAKER_00What is that? I don't think I've heard that.
NALEEMy I wanna say it's by Garth Brooks, but I could be wrong.
SPEAKER_03If Tomorrow Never. Oh.
SPEAKER_00You know what other songs, and I know you know this. Oh shit. Is Backstreet Boys.
ANTHONYBackstreet Back.
SPEAKER_00Alright.
ANTHONYYeah, like my cousin Mariah was obsessed with that millennium album.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, okay. Are you who's better? In sync or Backstreet Boys?
SPEAKER_06Backstreet Boys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like InSync, they have some good songs, but Backstreet Boys. No.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_00Can't compare.
ANTHONYThey cannot compare.
SPEAKER_00They have such good songs.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Like their lyrics are like they have good songs.
ANTHONYAlthough I will say, I was obsessed with the Unsync Christmas album when that album came out, and that movie, I'll Be Home for Christmas with Jonathan Taylor Thomas came out.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
ANTHONYI remember my cousin, core memory. My cousin Carrie and I went to go see that movie. And then after the movie, we went to Walmart and bought the album.
SPEAKER_00Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I like Backstreet Boys.
ANTHONYI remembered. We were in her, she had a like a Hunter Green van. Core Memory, I can remember.
SPEAKER_00What's your favorite Backstreet Boys song?
ANTHONYOh God. I honestly haven't listened to the Backstreet Boys in like over 15 years.
NALEEWow.
ANTHONYSo I don't even I pro the only song that I know is Backstreets Back. Show me the meaning. Oh, that's definitely one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Everybody loves that song. For me, it's kind of like the unpopular one. I don't know what the title of the song is called. I kind of forgot, but it's just it's Open Up Ya Heart to Me. You know that one?
ANTHONYNo. Is that an older one?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's an older one. Let's see.
ANTHONYBut I will also at the same time say that I wasn't huge on ballads. So if that was a ballad, which it sounded like it was, I definitely would not have been listening to.
SPEAKER_00I'm trying to see.
NALEEOh my god. Larger than life. I want it that way. Yeah, I'm trying to see. I'm pretty sure. Oh my god, this is just crazy. They're still making music?
unknownWho?
ANTHONYThe Backstreet Boys?
SPEAKER_00I think so. Oh, it's I need you tonight. Open up your heart to me and say free concert for listening. Yeah, that that song. And they're like, it's uh, I need you tonight. I need you right now. That song. Yeah, I love that.
ANTHONYI don't know it, but please.
SPEAKER_00I love that song. If you know that song, you know what's up. And Siberia, such a good song.
ANTHONYSiberia?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's Siberia.
ANTHONYIt's Backstreet Boys.
SPEAKER_00You clearly are not a Backstreet Boys fan.
ANTHONYI only listen to the first three albums. I feel like And I think the third one was Black Black and Blue.
NALEEOr was that the second one?
SPEAKER_00I feel like Siberia might be like an underrated song. It's kind of like a breakup song.
ANTHONYYeah, nobody wants to listen to a breakup song.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I love Siberia. And then I love Backstreet Boys. Like anytime Backstreet Boys comes on, I will jam up.
ANTHONYYeah, I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_00It's like you get that, like, oh my god, I know this song kind of thing, you know.
ANTHONYI'll do the same thing for NSYNC though, because it's just it's just nostalgic for me.
SPEAKER_00Ba ba ba. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00I like InSync, but I feel like they're they're not all of their songs are like hits.
ANTHONYNo. Yeah. No. I think they didn't have like the right moves. Like Backstreet Boys could actually dance.
SPEAKER_00Too. I think InSync was more danced than Backstreet Boys, to be honest. Yeah, because Justin Timberlake, he's very like, he's very like, what is it? He has good choreography and shit.
ANTHONYUnpopular opinion, Justin Timberlake's overrated.
SPEAKER_00I like Justin Timberlake. He's overrated. The reason why I like him is because you could tell that it's Justin Timberlake. I think that's what makes you a good artist, is that you listen to a song and you're like, oh, I know this is Justin Timberlake. Kind of like Bruno Mars. Like you could tell that, oh, this is Bruno Mars. Like he stands out.
ANTHONYBut is that the music or their voice? Because Justin Timberlake does have that like higher voice.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I think it's just in general.
ANTHONYLike And like even Bruno Mars has a he has a certain aesthetic to his tone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's the aesthetic of their music. Like you could tell that, oh, this is a Justin Timberlake song, or oh, you know, this is a Bruno Mars song.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYFergie had that too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYBut I wasn't big on Fergie.
SPEAKER_00Fergalicious definitions make them boys go crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like songs are beautiful. Like they hold so much memories.
ANTHONYThey do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So.
ANTHONYAnd I mean, music is the number one thing to bring people together.
SPEAKER_00It is, yeah.
ANTHONYNo matter what language somebody is speaking, everybody can enjoy music.
SPEAKER_00A thousand percent.
ANTHONYAny other core memories you want to talk about or that we need to address in the substantial? Just in general? Yeah, just in general.
NALEEWhy not?
Comedy Skits, Ice Cream Trucks, Nostalgia
SPEAKER_00Okay. I I don't know if I talked about this, but or maybe I have the ice cream truck. Like when you hear, like when you start to hear the sound or the smell of the ice cream truck, but it's not actually an ice cream truck. You're just instantly like, ooh, I have money. Or you look behind you, you know?
ANTHONYOh God. I remember always running for money and trying to.
SPEAKER_00Do they even have ice cream trucks in email at all?
ANTHONYI don't think they do, but I could be wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYWe don't have one around here. I know that for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I wonder if they stopped because of like kidnappings and shit. You know what I mean?
ANTHONYOh. But I mean, with that, I mean, with respect to that, like every it seems like almost every Everybody has like a camera on their front step.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
ANTHONYSo it would be so much more difficult to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but they could easily snash it and go. Like if there's only one kid. Are you talking about are you thinking about epilepsy?
ANTHONYNo. I'm thinking I was watching. It was an episode of that key Keel and Peel.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
ANTHONYAnd I don't know if you've ever seen them where they dress up as women.
SPEAKER_00Monica. Is that one? Where he's like, Yeah, don't follow me. I'm done with you. And he's like, get back here, Monica. I still love you. Megan. Megan! Megan! Not Monica. Sorry, Megan. Megan! Shut up! And then they're in the theater and she's like, Hello! Where are you? Hello.
ANTHONYSo annoying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I love them. I watched one. Yeah, I love them.
ANTHONYI should send this one to you. I watched one the other day where they were both dressed up as women and they were walking down the street telling stories.
SPEAKER_02And they were like, Ah my dad, she said that to you. Yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYAnd then there's like this creepy guy in a van, and he's like, Hey, ladies, you guys want to meet Channing Tatum?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. They're like crawling into the back of the van. I don't think he's in here. Channing, is that you? Ew. Kidnapping.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. That's so fucking stupid. For me, right now, kid oh, kidnapping. Right now, like ice cream chucks also reminds me of the charmed episode where they like get sucked into the ice cream chuck. Yeah.
ANTHONYOh, I should re-watch charmed. It's been a while.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love charmed. The old one, not the new one.
ANTHONYI watched the new one. It was definitely not as good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYI only watched it because I was low-key hoping that they would have done a crossover and like brought the original stuff.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. That would have been fun.
ANTHONYYeah. They missed the boat on that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But yeah, like now that we're on Key and Peel, I cannot get this episode out.
SPEAKER_06Oh god.
SPEAKER_00I have two favorite episodes, and everybody knows Key and Peel are like fucking hilarious.
ANTHONYThey're so funny.
SPEAKER_00And I'm pretty sure you guys know these skits too. The one where I always get their names mixed up. I don't know who which one is who. Like the skinny one, the tall, skinny one. I think that's Peel, right?
SPEAKER_03I think that's Key.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Well, anyways, the the the skinny one. Well, the tall one. The bald one. Yeah. It's the one where he's a substitute teacher.
ANTHONYMalarkey?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Malarkey or A Aaron? A A Ron. Is A Aaron here?
ANTHONYI will never not say A Aaron when I see.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that name. And he gets pissed and he like breaks the cardboard. He's like, I said. You know, like I forgot what he says, but his reaction is so funny. And then that's one of my favorite skids.
ANTHONYThat's one of the funniest ones.
SPEAKER_00And then the one, this one, I don't know if a lot of people know about this one. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But it's the episode where they both have a wife and they go over to I think Peel goes over to Key's house. And then the girls, they go and talk about the house, and she's like showing the house around. And then Key and Peel, they were talking about how one of them just got into an argument. And they're like, Yeah, she was a fucking. And then they look around and see if their wives are around.
unknownBitch.
SPEAKER_00And then it like amplifies and like it goes to them sitting up in the tree. And then they're like, She was a fucking look around. Bitch. And then it amplifies to them being in space. And then they're like, Yeah, she was singing on a shit and she was a fucking bitch. But then he's like floating away in space. But I haven't seen that one. Yeah, that's like one of my favorite skills.
ANTHONYI'll have to share it to you, but yeah, send that to me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and any any Megan ones are funny.
ANTHONYMegan ones are so funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The one the theater.
ANTHONYUm I just watched one today where it was he tried to break up with her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it the one where he was like, come back and get your coat? And then they're like in a boat, like fucking rowing away.
ANTHONYNo, they're at her house and they're talking. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00She walks, he talks, she talks him through going back and they're like back together at the end.
ANTHONYAnd then they're back together.
SPEAKER_02And she's like, okay, so what do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYYeah, any of the median ones are funny. The teacher one, that is hilarious.
SPEAKER_00I love the teacher one.
ANTHONYMy favorite one.
SPEAKER_00Balake.
ANTHONYMalake. Is that a malarke hair? My favorite one is the church ladies.
SPEAKER_00Blake. Sorry.
ANTHONYWhat'd you say?
SPEAKER_00It's Blake. Blake, but he's like, he's like no, he's like Balake. It's Balake here. And he's like, it's not Balake, but my name is Blake. And he's like, God damn it. Yeah. He's like, Blake. Yeah. Fucking Lebesk.
ANTHONYNo, you're fine. Have you seen the church ladies one?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, where they're they have those little hats and they're in the church pews and Satan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hilarious.
ANTHONYDad, that one kills me every single time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I I love them. That's what I want to do. Their life seems so fun.
ANTHONYI'm gonna do a I'm gonna do a divine keel and I'm gonna rip that dick off.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna ride that.
SPEAKER_00Oh my God. That reminds me of the scary movie thing that you were saying that how dirt how I talk dirty and shit. Yeah. Yeah.
ANTHONYI sent that to you. Yeah, you did.
SPEAKER_00I was like, okay, yeah, no, I'm not like that.
ANTHONYOkay. Did you watch that other one I sent you where I was like, you have to watch the end? Because he said something in that end that made me think.
SPEAKER_00You sent me a thousand things on TikTok. Which one was it?
ANTHONYThis coming from you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYOkay, let's count. Let's compare who sends what I send a lot.
SPEAKER_00I do. Okay. I will give you that. I do send a lot.
ANTHONYI don't remember what it was. You'll have to look at it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But another good thing that you guys should watch if you guys like like ho like comedy stuff.
ANTHONYI'm gonna put you on right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, is what is it? Whose line is it? I love that show.
ANTHONYWhose line is it anyway?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYOh my gosh. I used to watch that show before I went to bed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love that show.
ANTHONYI kind of fell off of that. They came to Eau Claire here. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I know. They came to Eau Claire, I think, last year. I wanted to go too. But I don't think it's the old like cast anymore.
ANTHONYI think two of the guys are still on there.
SPEAKER_00Oh, is it?
ANTHONYI think. The I know the short bald one. Yeah. Or like yeah, him and then the tall weird one, I think, are on there.
SPEAKER_00I think Aisha, the girl who Aisha Taylor. She was a host for a while.
ANTHONYShe was, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But I love that show. Too. So yeah.
ANTHONYMelissa got me hooked. I'm watching The Floor now.
SPEAKER_00So The Floor? What is that?
ANTHONYIt's a game show.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
ANTHONYWhich I fell asleep during the other night, so I have to rewatch it. Okay. Maybe I'll do that tonight.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I did have one thing, one other topic that I want to talk about is random acts of kindness that still makes you cry now. Like, is there any shout outs to like a teacher or to like a friend or just any kind of like little thing that anybody did for you that you like wanted to say hey thank you to?
ANTHONYWell, yes. So random act of kindness. I'm still, I don't know their name, but still that couple that picked us up when our car broke down on the side of the road in Sparta, Wisconsin. They picked us up and they brought us to a hotel and got us a hotel room for the night while we figured out our fucking lives. That was a random act of kindness that I'm extremely grateful for. I would like to thank that little old woman in Walmart for informing me that my friends that I did not know were in the next aisle over.
SPEAKER_00Are you being sarcastic? Yeah, yeah.
ANTHONYOh remember that story I told you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm like, I thought that was a mean one.
Kindness, Community, And Burnout Honesty
ANTHONYYeah, that was mean. I was being sarcastic.
SPEAKER_00You're a mean one, Mr. Grunch. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anybody else that I want to say thank you to? I want to say thank you to anybody who has been.
ANTHONYI've been seeing a lot on social media and like some of the groups that I'm I'm part of. I would like to give a special thank you to any and all people who are stepping up and like making donations and offering to help families who are in need of like food or resources. So I don't know anybody personally to thank. But like those small random acts of kindness that I've come across that I've seen, especially with the recent like discussions of like SNAP benefits being cut, I've been seeing like random people on groups offering help to anybody who needs it. And little things like that really little things like that are what's helping me get through my days lately.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
ANTHONYWith everything that's going on in my life and everything that's going on in the world, little things like that help me. But what about you?
SPEAKER_00I would just have to say, for me right now, like, I don't know, thank you to all the listeners and supporters that we've had. We've reached our 1K. I don't know if we've announced that.
ANTHONYI think we did.
SPEAKER_00Did we?
ANTHONYMaybe we didn't.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but we reached our 1K.
ANTHONYWe announced it on social media where none of our followers or none of our listeners and followers decided to do nothing.
SPEAKER_00We were supposed to have a drawing, but none of y'all little bitches shared. What happened to our community? What happened to support?
ANTHONYYeah. Where's the support, everybody?
SPEAKER_00What's going on?
ANTHONYWe're gonna be doing a drawing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, we attempted to do a drawing, but none of y'all bitches did nothing.
ANTHONYSo we're gonna attempt it again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYNew Year's, we're gonna do a drawing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Excuse merch that has yet to come out.
ANTHONYYes.
SPEAKER_00But yeah.
ANTHONYIf anybody wants their chance to win some twin tangents merchandise that is not yet available to anybody in the world, please follow us on our socials. Like, comment, review, subscribe, share the hell out of twin tangents. Spread the word of our nonsensicalness.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But I don't know, I think I did have one, but it doesn't help that I forgot what I wanted to say. So overall.
ANTHONYSee, you should have gone first. You shouldn't have let me talk.
SPEAKER_00No, it's okay. But yeah, I mean, honestly, anybody who's doing who's bringing a positive light to anything right now in the world with everything that's going on.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Anybody who's supporting any kind of donations, any kind of like any help in general. Just anybody who's positive, you know.
ANTHONYThis kind of goes against what I said in like an earlier episode. Well, maybe not necessarily against, but like if you're in line at McDonald's, like pay for the person behind you. Just random act of kindness. Spreading that sort of love is what that loving kindness is what keeps it going.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, I do want to say.
ANTHONYI wish listeners could see my face because whenever you do that, like, oh, I did want to. My face is always like, oh no, what is she gonna say?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, no. I wanted to think. We had a nickname for her. I forgot. For my for my supervisor at work. I forgot the name we came up with.
ANTHONYI don't remember the name we came up with.
SPEAKER_00But we're gonna call her Cindy from now on. But yeah, I just wanted to thank Cindy. She sent me candles for like as a thank you.
SPEAKER_03And You never sent me a picture, by the way.
SPEAKER_00I know, I forgot to, but yeah, she sent me candles and then she sent me a little like thank you gift.
ANTHONYA little care package. That's so nice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's so nice. But and then I also sent her some like nail supplies because I kind of got her into like doing her nails. I didn't get her into it, but I sent her like little gems and stuff that she could use to do her nails. And then I also sent her some little gifts in there. But yeah, it was kind of unsuspecting. Yeah, it was unsuspected. But the piano smells really good. They're bougie.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00So I was like, okay, Cindy, I see you.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, it was really cute. Yeah, little things like that.
ANTHONYYeah, little things like that to to pick somebody's day up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I don't know, just be good, y'all. There's a lot of negative shit going on. There's like people are being fucking mean and stupid, like that Karen. Yeah. Do better, y'all. Be better.
ANTHONYDo better.
SPEAKER_00I may swear a lot, but that does not make me a bad person, okay?
ANTHONYYeah. Neither one of us.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I think when I swear, it's just more to one, be dramatic, because you know, I I feel like I I don't swear that much, but I feel like on the podcast because I feel so much and like I express a lot of stuff. I swear a little bit. But yeah.
ANTHONYI feel like I swear a lot just to get my point across. I feel like it gets my point across more, but I don't think it does.
SPEAKER_00But yeah.
ANTHONYI wish I could swear at work.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. But yeah, I just wanted to say that like even though I swear a lot, and maybe some of you guys are uncomfortable with it, it's more to just emphasize my dramaticness of the point that I'm trying to get across. And you know, it just brings a little bit more Entertainment. Yeah. And entertainment into the pod. So yeah. But But yeah. Just be good, y'all. Be nice. Like, you don't know what people are going through. Just bottom line is you never know what people are going through. Just be nice. Maybe that'll help them better their day.
ANTHONYI've been trying to remind myself more of that when I get these intrusive thoughts about, you know, that fucking asshole driver that cut me off, or that bitch who gave me a dirty look. In my head, I've been trying to be a little bit more conscientious of like being like, you know what? I don't know what they're going through.
NALEEThey don't know what I'm going through. Yeah. Like, it is what it is.
ANTHONYJust I'm definitely one of those people that like sometimes I have no control over my facial expressions.
NALEEYeah, for sure.
ANTHONYAnd things can be obvious. So like Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know. There's just a lot of stuff going on. Just give yourself brace too.
ANTHONYThat's we keep saying that.
SPEAKER_00I know. It's kind of like It's like a work in progress. Yeah, we need to take our own advice. I do agree that with it.
ANTHONYIt is easier to like give advice.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit, sorry. But I'm trying to. I'm trying to give myself grace. I know I'm going through a lot of shit, but it's really hard. I think it's easy to tell people to do it, but it's hard for you to do it for yourself because it's like life is really hitting you so hard where you have no control over it. And it's really again, it's all about control. It's really hard for you to control something you can't, but then you cannot help but try to control a situation. But sometimes you can't control it.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes we have to let go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just have to kind of let it go. And I'm trying trying really hard to let go. I think that's the thing. So yeah.
ANTHONYAnd on that note, I think now would be a really good time to address the elephant in the room.
SPEAKER_00What elephant?
ANTHONYListeners may have noticed that our schedules have been a little off in the past couple weeks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYAnyone who follows us on social, and again, if you don't, please do to stay up to date with everything. But we did post to socials, and we're just gonna verbalize it now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYJust so everybody is aware, life has been lifing for the both of us lately. And so episodes may have been delayed or just absent in general.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd we're not we're not trying to make a habit of it. Just we're we're both going through things. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's been rough, y'all. 2025 has been kicking us in the ass.
ANTHONY2025 has been kicking us in the ass. I think this year, December 31st, I'm taking all of my 2025 calendars, spewing some gasoline on them, and I'm setting them on fire. And I think that's gonna be my ring way of ringing in 2026 because I think that's what I need. And I'm hoping that 2026 is a better year.
SPEAKER_00I'm ready to let go of all this negative energy, all the negative shit in my life, all the negative, like all the bad things, people, just everything in general. Like, I'm ready for a clean slate. I think I think it's kind of like I know it sucks because we're not like telling you guys exactly what's going on, but just know we're like going through shit. We are still committed to the pod, you know. Again, this is for life.
SPEAKER_03For life.
Gratitude, Support, And Closing
SPEAKER_00But I hope that there are some of you guys that look forward to our episodes every Thursday. You know, like I hope I hope that you guys are. But then again, it's also that thing of we're just really going through the ringer right now. And once we get out the other side of this, yeah, we will hopefully be able to shed some light full force. Yeah. But yeah, it's it's been really hard. Like being an adult is really hard.
SPEAKER_03So being an adult is hard.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but regardless, continue to keep supporting us and listening to us. And you know, we are trying our best. Our bests, but we are trying our best.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, thank you for again for your guys' c continuous support. And yeah, I thank you guys. Pretty much. I agree with you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you guys.
ANTHONYThank you, all of our listeners. And if I can ask one thing of you to help my 2026, our 2026 improve, please take the time to like, comment, and share on our Facebook posts, our social media posts, spread the word of us. No matter how stupid our episodes might be, how stupid our banter might be, our topics, anything like that, somebody's gonna enjoy it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
ANTHONYAnd if you can't laugh with us, hey, at least you can fucking laugh and at laugh at us.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And you if you guys have any topic ideas that you guys want us to talk about, just share it with us. We're open. Our roster for 2026 is open, baby. Yes. So let us know.
ANTHONYFill our roster.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYBut all right. So whether your childhood was cartoons and Capri Sons or generational trauma with the side of Lunchables, we see you.
SPEAKER_00Real quick side tangent Lunchables was also one of my favorite like snacks. I totally forgot about that.
ANTHONYI fucking loved Lunchables. I hated the pizza ones though.
SPEAKER_00I think that's why I love charcuterie boards. Because it's like a bougier vegetables.
ANTHONYIt's the adult version.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
ANTHONYYeah.
SPEAKER_00But anyways, our inner child may be a little tired, a little messy, and slightly emotionally uncooked, but they made us iconicos.
ANTHONYThanks for time traveling with us today. And remember, just because it was it was weird doesn't mean it wasn't wonderful.
SPEAKER_00This is Twin Tangents where the childhood chaos never really leaves. It just involved into podcast podcast content. Bye, Mm.